Four colossal soap worlds. Four very different ways to bring heat. We dive into a season where Knots Landing leans into the quiet power of neighbors and consequences, Dallas turns a hospital room into a war room, Dynasty weaponizes wit and glamour, and Falcon Crest splits the deck, then wins both hands with action and adult ruthlessness. If you’ve ever wondered why some finales feel like true cliffhangers and others feel like revelations, this breakdown will change how you watch.
We start on the cul-de-sac, where Lily Mae’s nosy wisdom, Abby’s precision, and Gary and Val’s silence say more than any twist. Richard Avery’s descent and unexpected accountability become the spine of a season that proves slow burn can sting. Then we head to Southfork, where JR orchestrates chaos from bed with a rotary phone and a devilish grin while Sue Ellen quietly levels up, Bobby shoulders duty, and Pam’s thread wobbles. Timeline quirks around Jock’s death pop up—but Dallas still crackles because legacy rivalry is the fuel.
From there, it’s shoulder pads and sharp tongues. Dynasty decides to be prettier, wittier, and proudly outrageous, letting Alexis, Adam, Dex, Kirby, and a returning Sammy Jo turn every room into a chessboard. Dominique steps in and widens the arena, proving style can be strategy. Finally, we pour a glass at Falcon Crest: explosions, hidden treasure, a mid-season pivot, and Angela back on her bully remind us why older power players make the best television. Richard embraces the dark, Chase inches toward necessary ruthlessness, and Maggie anchors the heart under the heat.
By the end, we stack the villains—JR, Alexis, Abby, Angela—and ask you to crown the chaos champion. Ready to argue, rewatch, and relive the most iconic prime-time moves? Hit play, then tell us your pick and your biggest gasp moment of the season. If you enjoy this deep dive, subscribe, share with a fellow soap fan, and leave a quick review to help more people find the show.
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Good morning, and all welcome and welcome back to
Soapboard with Digital GatheringPlayStation, these novels and OG
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I'm your host today, viewingviewing the Sophia Sophia Prime
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So what are you going to do withthis one?
We're going to sit back andenjoy helping this time to play
outside or outside.
Delpha, no questions of thatone, or the time for the next 25
or 35 months.
Everyone else that you have totalk about is that I only have
to meet something down.
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I hope your day is shaping upwell.
We are back for another funfilled edition of Soap Lore.
This is gonna be an easy,breezy, super quick episode
because I, as we speak at thetime of this recording, am just
about ready to press play so Ican start watching season five.
Can you believe it?
Season five.
I cannot believe we're alreadyhere.
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Well, I'm already here.
I'm so glad you decided torevisit or visit for the first
time some of these shows withme.
Shout out to Elena who'swatching these for the first
time.
And thank you for all of you OGssharing your your love for this,
for these shows.
I fully, fully get it, but it'sbeen racking my brain since all
the finales.
Everything was wonderful.
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I don't know if we can countKnott's Landing as a
cliffhanger.
Do you guys count that as acliffhanger?
I didn't, considering.
Well, we'll get into that.
Go ahead and pour yourself upsomething bubbly and bright.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to go findme something to drink.
I forgot to bring it in herebefore I started recording.
But let's buckle up and decidehow are we gonna define season
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four and season three?
Yeah, my drink isn't gonna bebubbly today.
It's gonna have to be a littlebit more flat.
I need some hydration.
I realized.
I didn't realize until I hadscrubbed all the floorboards in
my car, which was totallyunnecessary because it's carpet.
After I'd done that for about anhour, I thought, oh wow, maybe I
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should cut back on the espresso.
I think I should.
Now my eye is twitching.
I'm just gonna I'm gonna chillwith some coconut water or
something.
Get my get my levels back onnormal.
But you pour up whatever you seefit to do.
What a ride, what a ride, what aride.
I was going back overnon-slanding, and I've come to a
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conclusion.
I want to shout out Jupiter forbringing this to my attention.
For those of you who arere-watching this in real time,
or if you've seen these seasonsseveral times in the past, let
me backtrack just a little bitbefore we get into that because
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I I feel like when I startedthis whole process, when I
started watching all theseshows, I did have a rough idea
of what primetime televisiondoes and what it will do based
on shows from the late 90s,2000s, etc.
I knew what daytime soap operasdid, and so my thought process
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going into watching these isthat it would be a hybrid of
both.
I expected this to be a lot moreinnocent than it has been.
I did not expect these to beimpactful, hard-hitting
storylines.
I had for some reason I thoughtthis was the age of innocence.
I don't really know why Ithought that.
But what I came to discover withseasons one, two, and three for
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the other shows, that's DynastyDallas and Falcon Crest.
Season one, across the board, Ithink you could say this with
any television show, whetherit's a comedy, a sitcom, or
whatever, season one is veryexperimental.
The only exception to that ruleis if it is a spin-off, then you
have to have several sort ofwinks and nods to the original
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show because you are invested insomeone from that.
But with Dynasty Dallas andFalcon Crest, season one is very
experimental.
Season two seems to be sort ofstacking on the things that
worked in season one, removingthe things that didn't, and
you're still sort ofexperimenting there, but now you
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you probably have a bettervision of where you want to go.
Season three, for the otherones, this is where you know,
okay, you're not afraid of beingcanceled at this point.
You're not afraid of not havinga job.
You're not as experimentalbecause you know what people
like, but now you have to bemore creative.
So I feel like you startedseason one is the super
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adventurous throw spaghetti atthe wall see with sticks.
Season two is let's add a fewmore ingredients to that.
Season three is like, okay, wegot our recipe.
Now we're gonna need somevariants to keep this
interesting.
I cannot say the same thingabout Knott's Landing, it is the
strangest thing.
I've been thinking about thislong and hard.
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It could be because number one,Knot's landing is a spinoff, or
at least season one reminds us alot that it is a spin-off, but
it's also another type of show.
It already has its own identityin some aspects, it is going to
be more dramatic.
You could tell that from thefirst three episodes.
And I don't think they'veactually strayed, I think
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they've really held on to thatidentity, and it doesn't feel to
me like they've ever tried to beanything else.
It is a drama, they've thrown insome soap, but it never feels
over the top.
You know what I mean?
You could definitely feel thedifference between this and
Dynasty.
I also okay, so going back towhat Jupiter said, thank you so
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much for your input.
I love it so much.
Jupiter mentioned they've seenthis show more than once, so it
feels like season three, some ofthe stories don't actually
connect, they're not really partof the grander scheme.
There wasn't a bigger picture,and I think that is the
difference.
I totally agree with that, fullyagree.
But I think the difference isthis, and I'd love to hear from
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some newer newbies, some peoplewho've maybe watched it once,
and then those of you who'veseen these shows over and over.
I'm watching this through thelens of someone who's never seen
any of this show before this.
So as things come up, I'm sortof just accepting them.
I don't really have a superstrong opinion about where it
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should not go.
Like I, you know, I haveopinions about the storyline,
but I'm accepting it as a story.
I'm not putting it all togetheras a cohesive story, if that
makes sense.
I'm sort of watching eachepisode, understanding that they
will bump into each other atsome point, but I think the way
Knott's Landing has been set up,to me, it's never really felt
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like there was a through line.
Not all the time.
I really do feel like I ampeeking into the living room of
four different families, andsometimes there's something
under the surface.
So let's go back to season one.
Season one of Knott's Landing.
Although it wasn't, I don't feellike it was super experimental,
I feel like it was just layingthe groundwork.
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You got to know who theneighbors were, you got to
understand what the city was.
You know, we know there's abeach, you know, um, one of the
neighbors is super active in thein the school district.
One of the husbands is a musicproducer.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you kind of get the lay ofthe land.
You gotta Sid and Karen owning abusiness.
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Gary's working at said businessbecause he just came out to LA
with no thought in his mind.
Laura's a housewife, Richard's alawyer, ginger's a teacher,
Kenny's a record producer, andthen you get to see how all
these things come together.
You start to see which neighborsare really close, which ones
aren't.
You you learn Laura has a littlebit of a secret from her past.
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You see that Karen probably hada different vision of her
future.
Val and Gary are just trying tofigure their lives out.
You know, they they're finallyaway from drama, they're just
trying to figure things out.
Kenny and Ginger are trying tofigure out their new marriage.
It doesn't feel like all thosestories, all of these could be
totally separate stories ontotally separate shows, and it
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would make no never mind.
The fact that they are togetherdoes create knots landing, but
it there's not really a throughline.
You you see what I'm saying?
I'm just sort of watching it,enjoying these people in this
community within this townhaving different things happen
to them.
Sometimes the neighbors knowabout it, sometimes they don't.
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I wonder, though, as an as anOG, though, if you because you
know the entire story, how howdifferent seasons one, two, and
three read from each other.
Because for me looking from theoutside in, recently discovering
this show, I can't say there'smuch of a major difference.
I don't really feel like I feellike they have their own voice,
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they definitely have their owntone, but I don't feel like
they've had to fight for anidentity the way that the other
shows have.
Knott's Landing seems to bebecause the premise is this is a
neighborhood, these areneighbors, and this isn't like a
family tearing each other apart,it's already set aside, it's
already very different from theother shows, but also these are
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four individual families um withtwo adults a lot of times on
different pages, so it justreads a little differently.
I'm just curious for you, OGs,if you if you felt the same way
about season three.
Because yeah, there wasdefinitely the the ghost episode
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was strange, but also I'm like,no, that was just weird.
Let's just be honest.
That one was weird.
I fully enjoyed it, but also itfelt like one of those Save by
the Bell episodes.
Do you know, remember theepisode where they go to the
Haunted Mansion or the not, itwasn't really haunted, it was
the murder mystery dinner.
It felt like one of those sidequests on Save by the Bell, or
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the time that they got therecord deal and they were
flashed.
You know what I mean?
They did that mockumentary.
It felt like that, and becauseI'm a kid from the 90s, maybe
that's why I accepted it soeasily.
Like, okay, that was weird, butalso in the grand scheme of
things, there's always like adream sequence episode.
There's always somebody sort offainting.
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I'm actually surprised therehadn't been more dream
sequences.
We haven't come across a singleone.
You know what?
No, I feel like dreams are fordaytime, nighttime TV,
whatever's happening is reallyhappening.
Ain't no such thing as a this isall an illusion, you got this
all wrong.
Like it's really happening, youjust have to deal with it.
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One thing that Knot's landingdoes have in common with the
other shows by season three isthat you still have to fold in a
new character or two.
In this case, we have the returnof Lily May.
She showed up for one episodeearly on, and she came back as a
totally different person.
I really, really like heraddition to this because she's
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she's okay.
Think about this, y'all.
Gary and Valen's home isprobably very, very quiet.
Never mind the fact that theydon't have children, never mind
the fact that they are um ableto keep themselves busy for the
most part, but they don't seemlike a couple who chats with
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each other very much, especiallyafter season two, as things are
progressing.
It feels like Gary is sort ofstepping back, focusing more on
work to keep himself busy.
You have to remember he's stilla recovering alcoholic at this
point, he could just be keepinghimself busy.
Valen is keeping herself busywith school and stuff, but
there's not a lot of dialoguebetween them that I have
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noticed, unless she was sick,you know, when she had the
cancer scare that happened.
But folding in Lily May as thisother voice has been very, very
helpful to me this season.
Her input, her ear hustling, theway she's sort of in everybody's
business all the time.
You know, she knows how to sheknows how to work country down
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better than anybody.
Plus, she is Abby just older.
I'm fully convinced after thelast episode, it hit me like a
ton of bricks.
Same person, different font.
No, no, no, not even differentfont, just different paragraphs,
same font, different paragraph.
Folding her in has been awesome.
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Also Jupiter thanks again.
This is the Jupiter episode, I'mjust gonna keep talking about
it.
Um pointed out that this is soseason three of Knott's Landing.
You lose a major, majorcharacter in a major way.
I didn't forget about that,obviously.
Didn't forget, but I think I wasfocused on how well Karen and
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her family were doing versus howthe rest of the cast has to sort
of overcompensate or the storyhad to change.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it had to become slightlydifferent, but I think they did
such a good job of allowing itto play out slowly.
So I didn't really.
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How do I say this?
It's not that I felt like Sidwas easily replaceable, but Sid
was also not the most impactfulcharacter.
Not on season one, not on seasontwo.
The best part of Sid was his hisrelationship with Karen, having
her having someone to spar offof, someone who's totally
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opposite of her, them raisingtheir super brat and their two
sons.
It was very interesting, but Ifeel like the show would have
been impacted so much more ifKaren had actually died versus
Sid.
Again, not saying he was easilyreplaceable, but his, you know,
things moved on.
The business still ran.
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Gary was there to run it.
The neighbors were able to stepin.
Karen had many people coming inand out of her house.
They they managed to keep herreally busy, she managed to keep
the brave front up.
But the fact that the showdidn't rush anything also sets
Knott's landing apart from othersoap operas.
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You don't have to bounce to thenext storyline as quickly as you
would on another show.
They took their time with it,and it it I'm not saying that it
was seamless, but yeah, I am.
I am actually gonna say that.
It was a seamless transition tothe point where by the end of
the season, I'm not eventhinking about Sydney more.
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That's just how that is.
Like I said, I think if Karenhad been the one to to die, then
it would have been a completelydifferent story.
Okay, so season three here onNot's Landing, they definitely
upped the Annie as far as as faras the scandal very, very
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seamlessly folded Abby in.
We already had a little peekabooon season two.
This is shame on me for notpicking up the clues that were
there.
I wasn't taking Abby's uminterest in Gary all that
seriously.
I forgot about the two sidechicks when she confronted the
other lady that one time.
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I didn't really take her thatseriously because once the IRS
came in at the end of seasontwo, she immediately sold him up
the river.
It was quick.
There was nothing left of that.
So I you know, I'm not reallythinking too much about it, but
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it was a it's an interestingdevelopment that we're just
where they took they gave Karena lot of time to navigate this
the her life without Sid.
I feel like the Abby Garybuildup was probably slower than
I thought.
And I'm I'm very confident thatI probably missed, I'm very
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confident that I missed somethings because I I wasn't taking
it seriously.
So as I go back and watch thison, you know, each episode back
to back to back, I'm starting tosee things a little bit
differently, but mostly I thinkNazlane just sort of expanded on
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itself.
They they brought in a couplenew characters.
I really like the addition ofJoe.
I like Lily Mae.
Um I didn't even mind Abby'sex-husband.
Abby's ex-husband was reallyimportant because you got to
see.
I I was kind of thinking when heshowed up that you would see a
different version of her behindclosed doors, but she is as
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steady as Karen is.
That's the other thing I'dwritten down.
It's season three.
I can't say I really know thesepeople any better than I did on
season one.
It's all starting to slowlyreveal itself, but I will say
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the most solid, the most unchanging people, and by that I
mean they're the exact same infront of a crowd as they are
when they're by themselves.
Karen is number one.
She doesn't really seem tofluctuate one way or another.
She's got something on her mind,she says it.
She wants to keep quiet, shekeeps it to herself until she
doesn't.
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She is very consistent, and I'mnot saying she's not growing,
but if I had to say you know onecharacter, I would say I know
that one pretty well.
Laura, same way.
She doesn't talk as much asKaren, but you saw her sort of
fortify her own spine thisseason.
She decides I'm gonna keep thisbaby, I'm gonna draw off this
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husband, I'm gonna get me acondo, I'm gonna draw off this
neighborhood until she couldn'tanymore.
But behind closed doors, andwhether she was behind closed
doors or whether she was with agroup, she's even to be the same
person all the time.
I will say the same thing aboutAbby.
The rest of the characters haveshown bigger parts of themselves
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this season.
It okay, I hate on Kenny a lot,but let me just say this.
He's Mr.
Rogers this season.
It still does not make a lot ofsense to me considering he was
this magical playboy, butsomething about since when does
a baby save a marriage?
Since when?
But I guess in this scenario itdoes.
I don't know.
To me, it feels like he wasprobably looking at other
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contracts.
Maybe they're gonna get rid ofhim sooner rather than later,
but he wasn't as impactful as hewas this last season.
That was a little bit unusual.
All the characters usually havea pretty solid um storyline
where you get to see some oftheir flaws, some of their
secrets come to come out.
Not really for him this season.
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Ginger, she's a new mom.
She's bored.
That is very normal.
She's singing.
She'll do, I think she reallyjust wants to get out of the
house.
She do a little bit of anything.
I bet if they if she had acouple of shifts down at the
IHOP or Red Lobster, she wouldtake that as quickly as she
would a singing gig.
That's just my opinion.
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I will say this though.
In a sentence, I never thought Iwould say Richard freaking Avery
showed up and showed completelyout this season.
I feel like he stole the show.
I think his story was evenbigger than the Gary Abbey,
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we're finna bang each other, orno, we're not gonna bang each
other over this uh bourbonalcohol gas or whatever we're
trying to make.
And when are they this okay,we'll get to that at some point,
I guess.
I I I loved him.
I I fell in love with Richardthis season, did not see that
coming, but that developmentman, that oh god, you got to see
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every part of him.
We're used to him being thissawed-off, mouthy,
overcompensating gremlin of aman, season one and two, to
being this really vulnerable,but also stronger than I
thought.
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Yeah, I I don't know.
I again, this is someone whohasn't seen the whole story.
What I see now, yes, he had amental breakdown, yes, he held
his wife captive, which isabsolutely unforgivable.
He went nuts, but also hisability to sort of accept it has
really surprised me the most,even more so than him going
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nuts.
Him going nuts was actuallyright on it, was on brand.
It wasn't season three, Richard,it was definitely season two,
Richard.
I could see having you knowsomething snap upstairs, but
I've been impressed.
I also one of you guys told me Ican't remember who I think it
might have been Bob.
That I'm gonna get this guy'sname because I'm tired of
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calling him just Richard.
Whoever the rig the actor is whoplays Richard.
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Oh my god.
Rich uh Richard Oh my gosh.
Hold on.
Mr.
John Plaschette Plusette, isthat his name?
Yeah.
Is that he directed the the SidDies episode or he wrote it or
something like that?
First off, if you're gonna killme on a soap opera, can we can
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we do it subtly?
I'd like to maybe fly off acliff so I have the option of
coming back at some point, butkudos to him.
You want to talk about characterdevelopment, character arc.
I fully enjoyed him.
I, in my opinion, he he LilyMay.
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Yeah, he and Lily May kind ofstole the show for me this
season.
They really wow, love it.
Yeah, love it.
Season three of Knox Landing wasamazing, it was wonderful, but
again, it's more of the same.
I don't think it follows thesame formula.
We could chalk it up to it beingthe spin-off, although you guys
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let me know this was actuallysupposed to be the first show,
but Dallas happened first andthen they had to sort of spin
backwards in order to make itwork.
They did wonderful.
I see this more as a a very um,it's a drama.
Heavy, heavy on the drama.
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And I can't wait to push play onseason four.
Part of me wants to sort offloor through season four so
that I can be on season fivewith all of them, but I'm not
gonna do that.
I'm gonna continue to let itplay out the way it has.
I have not noticed any sort ofdiscrepancies between this and
well, only one, only one or twobetween Knott's Landing and
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Dallas at the time of mewatching these.
Jock has officially died onKnott's Landing, which is very
confusing to me considering theyears aren't that different.
So season like he, you know, heclearly would have made it
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through 1982, right?
Season four of Dallas seems tohave shot around okay, so it was
like 1981.
And Knott's Landing, I thinkwe're still in 1982, so you
know, could have been a fewmonths.
I'm not really sure how theythey filmed everything.
If he passed away in April, thenwe are to assume that Knott's
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Landing, perhaps this is thetail end of 1982.
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Yeah, I'm gonna assume it's it'sprobably the beginning of 1982
when that whatever.
The point I'm trying to make isthere's not a huge discrepancy.
I imagine as I finish or startor excuse me, as I start season
five of Dallas, they'll probablyline up a little bit better.
To me, it doesn't spoilanything.
I have I don't really thinkabout Dallas that often.
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I am now because I want tofigure out if Val and Gary are
gonna try to work it out.
Part of me thinks they will,which is a little bit obnoxious,
but whatever.
I gotta let it play out, right?
I gotta let it play out.
We'll see how it goes.
All in all, fantastic season.
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We just got to learn a littlebit more about everybody, learn
a few more talents, a few moredesires.
You got to see the cracks in afew things, but ultimately it
was more of the same.
They just expanded the story alittle bit.
I want to circle back to thisbeing a cliffhanger.
I don't consider this acliffhanger because there's
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really no one else involved.
You know what I'm saying?
Karen and Laura and Lily May allknow that Gary is having an
affair with Abby.
Everybody kind of thought thatanyway.
Diana even knows at this point.
The only other people to findout is is Richard, Ginger, and
Kenny, which is probably notgonna be very difficult for them
to believe that, but nobody'sreally invested in Abby like
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that.
I don't think that's acliffhanger.
Even if Valen drove off, I mean,where's she gonna go?
Where's she gonna go?
She done have a job, she's kindof dependent on this fool.
That ain't no cliffhanger to me.
That's just a revelation.
Yeah, that's a revelation, not acliffhanger, as opposed to last
season when the car wasliterally flying off the side of
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a cliff, and I don't rememberwhat season one.
Oh, yeah.
Gary was running amok, runningout in the streets drunk and
whatnot for two and three weeksat a time.
Now, I do remember thecliffhanger at the end of season
three of Dallas.
I think we all do.
I am so glad.
I was a little nervous.
I guess I can tell you guys thisnow.
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Everybody had heard, or at leastat some point had heard about
who shot JR.
Magically, never had a clue,never had any inkling, nobody
ever said anything.
I tend to believe that peopleactually forgot who shot JR.
Coming into this, I wasn't surewhen that was going to come up.
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I was a little nervous that itwould have been much later in
the series.
I was thinking, you know, aroundthe seventh season or so, much,
much later in.
Didn't expect it to happen onthree, but I'm so glad it did.
Okay, if season one is throwingthings at the wall and season
two is building on it, seasonthree, you know who you are.
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I think Dallas decided toabsolutely smash the mold.
If any of the shows is solid,unshakeable, unmovable,
undeniable, it has its ownsignature look.
It is Dallas.
You know who Dallas is, you knowwho Dallas isn't.
You know who these charactersare, yes, they're growing and
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they're expanding, but youalready know what it is.
It's the family tension on thisshow that makes it so
interesting.
My girl, Sue Ellen, has a girl.
Girl, she's been up, she's beendown, she's been humiliated.
She had to sing BarbaraStreisand in her bathing suit.
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Poorly, might I add.
She's had to deal with herhusband having all these affairs
running up and down and allaround.
She's got to hang out with hermother-in-law all day.
She's struggling with babies,she got a baby.
She don't know if that's herbaby daddy.
Uh, she's been in love four orfive times at this point.
Lost a man, only for him tocrawl back over the invisible
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mountains of San Angelo, Texasto survive.
How far did this fool crawl, bythe way?
You ever heard of that?
You ever heard of somebodycrawling over a mountain?
I think when I was probably inlike I was definitely in
elementary, that movie Alive, doyou remember that?
Where the soccer team, um, theirplane crashed in the Andes
somewhere and they like werefreezing for a long time and
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they had to start.
Making these makeshift housesand whatnot out of plane
equipment and then they had toeat each other.
Oh my god, where was I goingwith that?
That was random.
Oh, mountains.
Yes.
Yes, of course.
Um, they didn't crawl to safety.
We can argue that, okay, theAndes, they were the higher
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elevation, it was colder, andthese invisible mountains over
San Angelo are not that high.
I don't even think we considerSan Angelo Hill Country, but
whatever.
Soap tax, soap tax, soap tax.
The point I'm trying to make isSue Ellen has been through it
all only to have a lover crawlback from the grave, tease her
for a little bit, save her life.
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Let's kind of wind back on thatbecause I had forgotten.
So at the beginning of seasonfour, JR is laid up in the
hospital.
We don't know if he's gonna beable to walk.
Him getting a cat busted in himhas reunited or re-sparked the
flame between him and his wife.
They're on again, off again, onagain, off, off, off, off again.
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She went from being in love tobeing hopeful to hoping that um
JR would rise to the occasion,knock Bobby off the throne.
She had played a hand in hopingand helping Bobby be dethrone.
She spent 90% of this, the firstpart of this season, in a
bathing suit.
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Tell you what, they had to sellat Kmart or Neiman Marcus or
something, because she had a newbathing suit every other
episode.
Despite it being a new season,it was it still managed to be
interesting, even though theywere falling into old habits.
This show was going to belather, wrench, repeat, from
what I can tell.
Brother against brother, brotheragainst brother, trying to keep
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it away from mama and daddy,wife trying to be her husband's
side, uh good cop, bad cop,Bobby works too much, Pam is
lonely.
You know, more of the same, butit managed to be interesting,
except for Pam this season.
Besides her Rick James hairdo, Ican't really say a lot was
interesting, even though theybrought her mother also back
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from the dead.
It kind of fell flat for me.
It fell flat because I gotoffended.
I got my feelings that RebeccaJG Wentworth and Pam are trying
to rewrite history as if Cliffis his money-grubbing, power
hungry.
He's a lawyer.
Obviously, he wants power.
Obviously, he was almost in theSenate.
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He had a pretty remarkablecareer built brick by brick by
him from the sweat of his ownbrow.
And as far as he could tell, theonly time he was knocked off of
his path was when one of theewings jumped in.
So let's not let's not come withthe man.
As if he stayed up and he hemade up all these things about
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this family.
They brought it up, they theystarted it.
He's finishing it.
I don't think he's money hungry.
I really don't like that setup.
And as far as I can tell, Dallasis pretty consistent.
Dynasty might throw a couplethings out there and then they
just don't talk about it.
But in this show, I don't theydon't really do that as much.
They don't always tie it up in anice neat bow.
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But I'm not a fan of therevisionist history about Cliff.
I am excited that Cliff is nolonger working at the DA.
I need him to be in positions ofpower so that he can challenge
JR.
Now, is he ever gonna win?
I am very confident in saying henever will.
He might get lucky a coupletimes, but I love the tension
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between the two of them.
I love the all-out unapologetichate for one another over
something that really ain't gotnothing to do with them.
This is between their dads,honestly.
But you know, I respect Irespect generational beef.
It's kind of fun or whatever,but no, what a what an iconic
season.
What an iconic time, from what Ican tell.
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Who shot JR?
One of the biggest storylines inhistory, as far as I can tell.
And boy, oh boy.
I'm trying to remember who Ithought it was.
I think I thought it was thewannabe senator kid whose name
escapes me at this point.
I really thought it was him, butJR managed to piss off 57
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people.
I love that when he came backand when he got back on his
feet, nobody cared.
It's kind of funny to see howeverybody was like, oh damn,
JR's back.
What a character.
I enjoy the season because ofall the tension, too.
So Bobby taking over, trying tobe there for his dad, be there
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for his mom until the till JRwas on the mend, and then having
JR have all this power bedsidewithout a Blackberry flip phone,
um, MP3 player, no sort ofelectronic device.
He is wreaking havoc from hisbedside with nothing more than a
rotary phone and the reputationfor being, I guess, good in the
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sack or wealthy or something.
I don't really know.
This man managed to sabotagefour and a half people from his
bed.
Incredible.
I like how devious he'sbecoming.
He's really embraced thisvillain thing.
I I don't think there's a bettervillain at this time if I'm
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comparing all three, and youknow how I love Big Perm.
He just does it a little better.
I'm wondering though, he doesn'tstrike me as a killer.
I can't wait to figure out whothis is in this bathtub, not the
bathtub, in this pool.
So I had a little time to thinkabout it.
And like I said, the lady in thepool had short hair, so that
immediately eliminates likeKristen.
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I don't think Lucy was in therunnings to fall in the pool.
I don't think Lucy dies.
I hope not.
That would suck.
But this lady tend to have shesort of had short hair.
So I'm like, it could be Pam.
I seriously doubt that, althoughI have noticed when I looked
into going to the Dallas thing,she wasn't on there.
And if you look at New Dallas orthe newest one, there's other
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people on there.
Like Sue Ellen's on there.
I haven't actually seen theshow.
Let me be very clear.
I am going strictly off ofposters and little snips.
Sue Ellen's on there, and thenthat weird lady who um the one
who was dead on Wisteria Lane onDesperate Housewives, she's on
there.
So I'm like, I don't know ifthat's supposed to be Pam.
I don't know if VictoriaPrincipal didn't want to come
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back.
I don't know.
But anyway, I hope Pam comesback.
JR did threaten her because shewanted to help.
Oh no, Pam's not even at thehouse.
Pam's not even at the house.
Pam is taking the baby to SueEllen.
It was the easiest kidnappingever.
It definitely ain't Sue Ellen.
Okay, I'm back at square one.
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I guess it could be hissecretary.
I was thinking about that.
The one that he fired, but Idon't know why she would go all
the way to his house.
Especially if she wrote her ownletter.
Who knows?
I can guess all day.
I'm gonna find out here in thenext day or so who hopefully who
that is.
Man, this is interesting.
So on where Nod's Landing has toover has to build this season
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around one of the maincharacters being gone
fictionally, Dallas is going tohave to dance around that IRL.
You had one of the major playersactually pass away, and they're
gonna have to figure that.
So I think going forward, Istill feel really confident just
considering the sheer number ofseasons they got through.
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I think they'll be able tonavigate that pretty well.
I mean, Ellie's still here,everybody else is still here.
It'll be very interesting to seehow that comes to pass because
I'm thinking at the time of thefinale, and I guess when on
episode one, season five, Ellieand Jock are in Paris.
So I wonder what they'll do.
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I wonder if they use his voice.
You have to be really delicatewith that.
I'm sure I don't know.
I'd love to, once I'm done withall this, I'd love to go behind
the scenes and just sort of seewhat their thought process was.
It seems like it'd be cool ifyou could do his voice, like if
they have recordings of himwhere you can kind of hear him
talking sometimes, or just maybehollering from upstairs.
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I don't know how long they'regonna be able to keep that up,
especially considering we knowon 1982 on um Knott's Landing,
they're already saying that he'sgone, that Jock is gone.
This is wild.
I don't know.
What else can we say aboutDallas?
Just fun, all in out fun.
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Stuel and stole the season.
I love she's probably the mostinteresting.
I love to watch her sort offight through fight through
this, like she has these momentswhere she's really hopeful.
And this season, she shedefinitely grew.
She wasn't letting JR bait heronce she really saw his true
colors.
She accepted that her sister didwhat she did pretty well, way
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better than I would have.
She kept going to Dr.
LB, she just sort of resolved tobe a good mother, and then her
booski comes crawling out of thegrave.
Man, it's a good season.
She's by far one of the mostinteresting.
The the boring part of this tome was the Lucy and Mitch thing.
I love that Mitch hates money,but also who wants to work 47
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and a half jobs?
Like, relax, relax.
But I mean, he's a man, he wantsto make his own way.
It was cool.
The Miss Dallas thing feelsfunny to me.
I I stand by this opinion.
They really do not know what todo with a young girl on their
show, or a young woman rather,between the ages of 18 and like
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22.
They don't know what to do withher if she's not sleeping with
older men.
Speaking of sleeping with oldermen, my favorite person to hate
on sometimes from the greatstate of Colorado.
Dynasty, okay.
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Season one, you throw things upagainst the wall.
Season two, you build on things.
They were bright enough to bringin Alexis, who, in my opinion,
probably helped save the showonce they really got her going.
Season three, we're introducedto Kirby and Mark Jennings.
They folded in these newcharacters really, really well.
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So by the time season fourrolled around, you were good and
used to them.
Still didn't really trust them,but used to them nonetheless.
But season three solidified it,solidified Alexis as a Kobe.
We had some marital issues.
Is this I'm I'm trying toremember.
Marital issues with yeah, withCrystal and Blake.
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Is this the Tuscani season orwas that two?
I think Tuscani was two.
Oh, it's New Face Steven.
Okay.
Folded in a few new characters,blah blah blah.
We end the season with the bang.
Literally.
Random meeting in the woods, bigfire.
I think Dynasty, by season four,thought, okay, listen, we're
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never gonna be as dramatic asKnott's Landing or Dallas.
I'll say that about Dallas, too.
Dallas is very, very dramatic aswell, but their tension feels a
lot different than Knott'sLanding because it's it's sort
of concentrated within thefamily.
Yes, there's a few otheroutliers who have problems with
the Ewings, but ultimately theyfight harder between themselves
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than they do with anybody else.
And passive aggressively, by andlarge.
JR's humor really sort of coatsthat, sugarcoats everything he
says, but ultimately, this isthe Cain and Abel all day, every
day.
Dynasty said, you know what?
Okay, we're not gonna have that.
That we don't have.
But what we do have is anincredibly witty woman who is
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not afraid to take a punch, notafraid to have a little cat
fight.
So it's like, let's build thistension between Alexis and
Crystal.
New face Steven is back.
He is booed up with Claudia theStallion, who is bullied into
high fashion this season.
And I think that was probablythe best thing that ever
happened to her, aside fromMatthew disappearing into the
jungle.
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She don't even realize shedodged a bullet getting away
from him.
I like that they're just sort ofplaying, they're playing with
Alexis.
Alexis carried this season.
Let's go ahead and say it.
Alexis and Adam.
Okay, it's all coming back to menow.
Season three was very heavy onthe bit players.
The bit players still carry thisa lot, it was never one of the
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Carringtons except Adam.
Jeff was front and center alittle bit more.
And let me put aside my my bias.
Yeah, actually, Jeff was waymore interesting this season
because of Kirby.
Joseph being off at thebeginning still does not make
sense to me.
I'm trying to figure out whatokay, let's think about this
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objectively.
Joseph hates Alexa, she hateshim too.
He can't stand her.
He doesn't want her to tellKirby that her mother died much
later.
It didn't seem like they knewthat at the beginning of this
season.
Am I right or am I right?
That doesn't seem like that.
I feel like somebody writtenthat wrote that in much later.
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And they're like, okay, yeah, wegotta figure out how to make
this Alicia lady relevant.
We'll say she went to jail andthen she died like three months
ago.
Which, based on this timeline,if you based on the time Kirby
was pregnant and and she wasshowing, that would be a four or
five months.
Joseph wouldn't have had thatinformation right there, right?
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Unless it happened like a weekbefore.
I don't know.
That's what I'd be talkingabout.
Soap tax, soap tax, soap tax.
Somebody didn't think thatthrough.
They just wanted this man offthe show.
So, like, okay, he's gonna he'sgonna be so devastated by the
news that his ex-wife isn't deadbecause yeah, that would be a
devastating blow to Kirby toknow that she has a living,
breathing mother, right?
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It was confusing, but watchingKirby try to get rid of Adam's
Demon Seed was entertaining,even though it shouldn't be.
That's never anything I wouldsay in real life.
On the show, it was hilarious.
I forgot we have theintroduction of Peter Crackpipe,
the filibuster, who wooed Fallonwith the body of an 87-year-old
woman in a booger sugar habit,managed to sweep this
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billionaire daughter,billionaire heiress, off her
feet with Nary a check, nodiamonds, no nothing.
Oh baby, can I can I borrow twomillion dollars?
I'll give your mom and them thishorse.
Shut up, please.
But you know what?
I laughed on each and everyepisode of this season.
I look forward to it.
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I can't even talk about Dynastywithout smiling.
If nothing else, they decidedthis is what we're gonna do.
We're gonna look good.
Amen.
We're going to be cutthroat,we're gonna talk real crazy to
each other, and we're gonna havea good time.
If every other season buildingup to this was building on more
and more, by season four,dynasty made a decision.
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I don't know if they'vesolidified it yet, but they made
a decision.
We're gonna be prettier,wittier, and if we gotta throw
in a couple, two, three fistfights every other episode, so
be it.
We had people fist fighting inpenny loafers at the top of a
skyscraper.
We had mud slung in faces, girlsfalling off horses.
Who else fought?
Did they fight again thisseason?
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I feel like I'm missing acrystal and Alexis fight, or
somebody had a cat fight.
I just can't remember at thismoment.
It's a blast.
Season four for Dynasty is fun,so entertaining, a little bit
outlandish, but I like that.
I feel like if you're gonna besilly, if you're gonna go there,
let's go there.
We did have a few too manyweddings, in my personal
opinion.
Enough is enough.
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Blake once again played himself.
That was the best part.
The oh yes, okay.
That was a fight.
The introduction of Dex Dexter,who has fast become one of my
favorite characters on thisshow.
He and Alexis got into a catfight.
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I've never met somebody sopretty who loves to fight who
wasn't like on the bad girlsclub.
She loves to talk slick and takea punch.
You gotta those type of peopleare scary.
Because it's like she's nevergonna shut up.
She doesn't care if we slap her.
Oh well.
She's been slapped a lot before.
I had that same thought.
Y'all remember when Will Smithslapped Chris Rock?
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The way Chris Rock took thatslap, I knew immediately.
He's used to getting hit in theface.
He must have he must have gottenbeat up a lot as a kid.
Oh, that's neither here northere.
Dynasty was all kinds of fun.
We're still gonna need todevelop some of these stories.
I think bringing back Sammy Joeis gonna be so impactful because
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she, within the what, two orthree episodes, she's already
pissed off.
90% of the staff, the housepeople can't stand her, her own
auntie can't stand her.
She's running among, but we doneed to get a blood test because
I'm starting to believe thatbaby ain't Stevens.
Why would you believe that?
She was running around LA doingany and everybody.
Okay, so because she had beengone, I love this when people do
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this.
On a soap opera, when you leaveand then you come back, or even
a drama, if you go away and comeback, there's the whole
storyline about what you weredoing in New York.
So I think it's only a matter oftime before some sleazy pimp
name slip back type boyfriendcomes crawling out from
underneath a rock, shaking herdown for money once she gets
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good and settled in Denver.
Also, we have the addition of anew Carrington, Miss Diane
Carroll, who was I wanted tocall her mahogany.
What is her name?
What is her name?
Domin Dominique?
What's the what's uh yeahDominique Deborah?
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I'm trying to see who she is.
So I'm thinking I'm I've thoughtabout this more.
Either Blake has a brother, orshe is related to him in some
other capacity through mom ordad or something, or um who
knows?
Maybe there's a whole notherbranch.
Maybe there's black Deborah's orthe black carringtons, I don't
know.
Either way, I I'm I'm excited tosee.
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This season was fun, top tobottom.
Sad to see Mark go, even thoughhe was kind of a dud.
He was just fun to be.
I loved him being sent to hisroom and being insulted.
Who she wants to insult now?
Shout out to Dynasty.
Dynasty just had a good time,they threw caution to the wind,
and it's probably one of thebest things they could have
done.
Because of what I can tell, itseems like they got more popular
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from this point on.
And I get it.
Dynasty is a type of show youneed to watch with a bunch of
people.
Gosh.
I wish I had gotten into the newone a little more.
I know it's off the air, but whoknows?
Maybe they'll resurge it again.
But this is it's a type of showyou you need to watch in a
group, it's to be fun.
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I might hit up my local libraryand play, we're gonna host a
dynasty night.
I think it'll be fun.
Speaking of fun, Indiana Chasein the Vineyard of Doom, I
thought was going to be anaction-packed, full-on
blockbuster season for FalconCrest.
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They did not let me down.
Let me be very, very clear.
They definitely didn't let medown.
But Knott's Landing is reallywho I thought Falcon Crest was
at first.
Falcon Crest is moredrama-driven, but because it's
it's surrounded or it's thefocus of this show is the
family, it's already a littlebit different.
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They're also more action-driven.
There's there's it's much morephysical.
There are much more stunts,they're outside more, and I feel
like on any show, if you'reoutside a lot more, there's just
a lot more action.
But where um Dallas has thiscomplete and total identity,
Dynasty has said, you know what,we're just gonna go this way.
Y'all gonna like it, or you'renot?
Knott's Landing is just showingyou a peek of people.
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I don't really know them thatwell.
I feel like I know thecharacters on Falcon Crest
really well.
And this season, it's like theywent back to the drawing board a
little bit.
Angela falling in love,allegedly, last season, marrying
Philip and all that.
That wasn't really her style.
She was back on her bully thisseason, and that's exactly where
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we needed her to be.
Richard, too.
Richard was tearing up theplanet, looking for leather
pants.
Pam, at the end of season three,he's fighting the cartel, he's
almost getting run over allthese things.
Season four, he said, you knowwhat?
F it.
I am a bad guy.
He did the wrecked Ralph.
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Villain talked to himself inreverse.
I am a bad guy.
I'm gonna do bad things.
Angela's the same way, andChase, God bless him, he's
self-righteous and always blind.
That's the thing.
He's blind to the the happeningsaround him, always trying to do
the right thing.
And sometimes you gottasometimes you gotta do the wrong
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thing.
You gotta be the wrong guy forthe right thing sometimes, or
the right guy for the wrongthing.
Yeah, I think that's a thingthat's the difference between
that's Falcon Crest thing.
This season, everybody who was avillain said, F it, I'm gonna be
that.
So we had an unprecedentedamount of people on the show
going for each other's neck.
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Chase got a little bolder, Iwill say this.
He got a little bolder.
He's still not quite where heneeds to be as far as being
cutthroat.
He's he's making people nervousnow.
Okay, so the so bringing inMaggie's dad at the beginning of
this season seems like a littlebit of a red herring.
They didn't really tie that up.
That's Maggie's dad, he is somearchaeologist.
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He basically showed up so thatAngela could tell the whole
world that Maggie was adopted.
And we can bring in her gamblingmother with all these vices.
Nothing really came of that.
The only thing I can think of,they're laying the groundwork
for another relative to pop upat some point, or this was just
an attempt to give Maggie orSusan Sullivan more camera time.
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We needed to have a story builtaround her that wasn't her
investigating someone else.
This is the only time she getsto just kind of hang out and be
a little bit drunk most of thetime, from allegedly, allegedly,
allegedly.
But it upped her Annie a littlebit more, especially when you
think about her sister Terry.
Now, Terry being a call girlwith this coked out Florida man
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ex-husband coming and shakingher down for money, her still
not knowing how to navigate thisworld of real money.
She's lonely, she's vulnerable,she's still trying to hold these
secrets.
That's just much moreinteresting.
But it was a little bit weird tome that we started off with the
um God, what was that guy'sname?
Diversity.
I don't think I ever got hisname right this whole season.
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It doesn't matter.
The Nazi child blows up hisfather only to systematically
and very quietly buy up realestate surrounding Falconcrest,
only to discover that thetreasure was in a cave.
He didn't have the wherewithalto send and do dirt dudes or at
least workers or you knowconstruction.
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There's a million ways to skin acat, and he he he he would
rather eavesdrop on these peopleat Falcon Crest rather than just
go into this cave.
All you needed is blueprints.
It's a little sloppy, it's alittle sloppier than I'm used to
for Falcon Crest, but I stillenjoyed it.
I just thought the whole seasonwould be about that.
But this man dies by episode 20,and nobody is any the wiser
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about all the gold and jewelsand the goony loot that is
trapped inside this caveforever, along with two bodies
that nobody managed to go in andcheck on.
They're like likelihood is veryslim to none.
So but it was fun.
That was a fun little storyline.
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I'd much, much, much preferthough the Cassandra and Riker
storyline to that other one.
Here's the thing with FalconCrest.
I've always been a huge fan ofthe writing on this show, and I
still am.
It's like they double-dip,though.
They just it's almost as if thiswas two totally different camps
of writers.
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They had to flip a coin or theywrote Chambeau to see who was
gonna get the first part of theseason, who's gonna get the end
of the season, and they made twototally it felt like two
seasons.
Didn't help that it was also 30episodes, it definitely felt
like it could have been two verydifferent seasons of the same
show, equally as good.
I just happen to prefer thelatter.
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It was great to see Angela backon her bully.
It was very entertaining to seeLorenzo.
I always want to call LorenzoLamas Laz Alonzo, to watch
Lorenzo Lamas squeeze out tears.
But he matured this season.
Lance was a much more maturecharacter.
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He's getting away from sort ofthat douchebag era, and he's
he's actually becoming a youngman and all the things that that
come with that.
The Lorraine love story was itwas entertaining, especially
towards the end where theiracting got just really, really
bad.
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I don't know why.
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I I I really enjoy I enjoy cackling at them.
Glad to see Bad Girl Melly Melback on her bully.
I wonder how she's gonna do injail, though.
I really wonder how she's gonnado in jail.
Oh, also, I love theintroduction of an Italian
relative.
Falconcrest has been theexception to the rule twice as
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far as bringing in a relative.
They brought in Cousin Michaellast season, and he was just a
stand-up guy all around.
All through season three, he wasa stand-up guy.
And then when they brought inFrancesca, the Italian baddie,
at the beginning of this season,she was a stand-up lady too.
Usually a relative meanshorrible bad news, but not in
this case.
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Not so far, not with them.
Trying to think who else showedup.
Oh, Julia came back from the notdead.
I'm not surprised by thatthough.
She you remember she crawledunder the little tunnel in the
spring house.
Everybody knew there was atrapdoor in there.
I don't know why no one checkedit, but she tried to turn
herself in after she couldn'tstay in that RV anymore.
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She's been one of the moreinteresting characters on this
show because from season one toseason two, she turned into this
from this mousey lady to thisalmost femme fatal who's
brandishing weapons, threateningpeople's lives, falling in love
with these weirdos and whatnot,but it being able to keep it
secret.
It's an interesting twist,especially when they do that
with women.
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You don't often see that, like,oh, she was she was able to hide
that she was madly in love withthis man, and you know, she was
she was keeping everybody closeto keep an eye on him.
But I mean, so far on this showand on Dallas, person
brandishing the weapon has beena lady, probably because they're
unassuming.
Kristen actually wasn't.
The more I think about Kristenon Dallas, that's quite obvious
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that it was her.
But Julia on season, end ofseason two, early season three
turned out to be the shooter waswild, especially with the
backstory of um almost call thiswoman Lana Del Rey.
You know who I'm talking about,Lana Turner, Tanner, Turner, and
Jane Wyman allegedly not gettingalong, and it's either her or
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me.
You know who it is.
Falcon Crest was fine.
It was just it was it was sodifferent from itself.
Like they have they establisheda long time ago.
We're gonna we're gonna bank onour acting, we're going to bank
on the writing, we're gonna begorgeous, and we're gonna we're
gonna have more action-packedsequences.
They did.
They had a guy almost runsomebody off the side of a
cliff.
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Explosions, two explosions.
The last minute buzzer beater'sromances threw me for a loop,
but um when I tell you I'm themost excited about that, I
suddenly really like Richard andMaggie together.
I do.
There's no reason for her toleave Chase because you know
Chase thing, Connie.
Come on now.
There's I don't he really likesher for her mind.
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He really, really does.
She knows how to make champagne,he knows how to make wine
barely.
I just don't see that being muchof anything.
But Richard and Maggie have beencool for like two seasons at
this point.
They're both adopted, they bothhave daddy issues.
She's like the only real friendhe has outside of Leather Pant
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Bam, but even that wasn'tgenuine.
Him and Maggie are being realcool.
He even didn't break hermother's kneecaps when she was
gambling too much at hisestablishment out of respect for
Maggie, of course.
But it was interesting.
I love all the twists and turnshere.
That's all that's basically whatI'm saying.
Falconcrest jam-packed so manystories into one season, and it
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still managed to make a lot ofsense.
There's a couple of plot holeshere and there.
I do wonder what they're goingto do with Julia because she is
so she's so sporadic.
I kind of forget she's there andthen she just shows up all of a
sudden.
I think she's at a convent withthe nuns or something, isn't
she?
I also don't think that cousinRobin is Prego.
I also do not believe Melissa'sgonna sit in jail.
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I just I don't see thathappening.
I imagine she's gonna escape.
They love a manhunt on thisshow.
That's true.
They love a Nazi storyline, anexplosion, and a manhunt.
And on this show, in they willturn each other in at the drop
of a hat.
I am especially Especially fondof Angela.
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I I really enjoy when they havefull grown men and women on
shows.
I don't think they're quitesenior citizens, but I do love
when when the older people onthe show aren't just props.
I don't really like to see themsitting around doing nothing,
waiting to babysit kids andwhatever.
I like you outside causingtrouble, making people nervous,
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buying up land, destroying yournephew, doing all those things.
That's what you need to be doingwith your life.
Who wants to wait till you getto the end of your life to just
be like, oh, I'm just gonnaknit?
No.
I'm gonna buy up property andmake people nervous, make people
uncomfortable.
I'm gonna put my grandson in ashipping container and send him
to Italy.
I'm gonna make my other nephewtuck in his whole life.
I'm gonna bankrupt him and thenI'm gonna tear down his hideous
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house because I can't stand it.
Or I'm gonna turn it into mypersonal closet.
Either way, I am forever andalways a stan for Miss Angela
Big Perm chanting.
All in all, I would say seasonfour was bigger, it was bolder,
it was shinier, and it was awhole lot more fun, I would say,
than any other seasons.
If we're talking about DallasDynasty and Falcon Crest, it was
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just a lot more fun this season.
Dallas knows exactly who theyare, they are exactly who they
think they are.
Dyne of Falcon Crest is two.
They're in an experimentalphase, though, with the addition
of all the new characters andall the new plots.
It's getting a little bit thick.
All of their stories kind ofbump into each other, where on
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the other shows, I guess theydo, but the consequences aren't
as prominent.
Like Dynasty, yes, okay, Joseph,the Joseph Kirby, Adam, Jeff
storyline ran parallel with theJeff and Fallon storyline, which
was also parallel with the umSteven and Alexis versus Adam
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and you know what I'm saying?
Those all did they're yeah,yeah.
There's really no majorconsequence or just kind of at
each other's throat a little bitor comp competitors.
But on Falcon Crest, it is acutthroat dinner every single
night.
And on Dallas, it's the sameway.
So I appreciate the deep-seatedhatred and rivalry from Dallas
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and Falconcrest.
I love the shininess, the camp,and the just sort of breakneck
storyline on Dynasty.
And I love the slow burn of NotSanding.
Can't wait to see what seasonfour of Not Landing is about,
though.
So I can kind of compare itacross the board.
At the rate of which it's going,I don't know if I'll ever feel
like I know all the characters.
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It seems like they give you justenough each season and then they
develop into something else.
On Dallas, it's just sort of arace against the clock.
Who's gonna be on top and forhow long?
How long before JR takes thethrone back is all you're really
worried about.
Especially with Jock being gone.
That is that's another thing.
I'm very curious to see how thatunfolds because JR already runs
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Ewing Oil.
I can't imagine what he woulddo.
I don't can't imagine he can dotoo much because Ellie is still
here.
Yeah.
But, anyways, guys, I'm verycurious if you would like to
reach out to me and answer thisquestion.
I would love to hear youropinion.
Number one, I want to know youum from you OGs of Knott's
Landing, especially people whoreally, really are fond of knots
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landing.
Did you find season three to bea little bit all over the place?
I definitely did, but also Idon't know what's coming next.
And it felt just like, oh, okay,they just needed to kind of get
that out of their system.
And it didn't really feel thatdifferent from the other
seasons, but I also, yeah, I II'm going back through it.
So I just want to kind of lookat it through the lens of
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knowing what happens at the endof the season to see if it
changes my mind a little bit.
But I'd love to hear from youguys about that.
Also, who do you think the bestvillain is?
Is it Abby?
Is it Angela Channing?
Is it Alexis Carrington or is itJR Union?
I would like not Union, Ewing.
I would like to point out thatall the ladies have the exact
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same initials.
AC versus AC versus AC versus JR.
Alright, guys, I think that'senough for now.
I can't wait to start seasonfive.
I am just write all the names ina bucket, pull it out, and see
who I watch first.
Thank you for joining me on thisepisode of Soap Lore.
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I hope you continue to watchthese with me in real time.
If this is your first time, letme know how you stumble upon
this.
I think Elena told me that shewas looking for the other
dynasty.
Whoops.
I'm glad you found it, girl,because the original, I as far
as I can tell, is better.
I haven't watched the other one.
Oh, that's another thing.
One last thing.
If you do want to watch the newdynasty, from what I can tell,
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they don't really carry on towhat was going on before.
It's like a reimagining.
So it's new characters, samecharacters, new cast.
I think Sammy Joe is a dude.
You know what I'm saying?
Like they change a few things,so it won't spoil anything.
But I think if you try to watchDallas, it does.
Because it's a they'recontinuing on.
All right, guys.
Remember, if you'd like to reachout to me, you can send me a
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text.
Check the show notes if you'reon your mobile device.
There is a link that says sendme a text.
I can't text you back, but Iwill always respond to you.
Or you can reach out to me theold-fashioned way via email at
soapplorpodcast at gmail.com.
That'sS-O-A-P-L-O-R-E-P-O-D-C-A-S T at
gmail.com.
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In the meantime, in betweentime, rewatch your favorite
shows.
But yeah, if you love it, let'sjust keep watching and let's run
this up.
I really do feel like we needto, I don't want to say
evangelize, but spread the wordfar and wide about some of these
shows.
This is where it's at.
Where else are you gonna get 20plus episodes of prime time?
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Fantastic drama each and everyepisode.
Where else are you gonna dothat?
Stay hydrated, stay moisturized,mind your own business, and keep
all of your drama on TV.
Good morning, and all welcome and welcome back to
Soapboard with Digital GatheringPlayStation, these novels and OG
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I'm your host today, viewingviewing the Sophia Sophia Prime
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Didn't think about that before Istarted talking, but here we
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So what are you going to do withthis one?
We're going to sit back andenjoy helping this time to play
outside or outside.
Delpha, no questions of thatone, or the time for the next 25
or 35 months.
Everyone else that you have totalk about is that I only have
to meet something down.
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I hope your day is shaping upwell.
We are back for another funfilled edition of Soap Lore.
This is gonna be an easy,breezy, super quick episode
because I, as we speak at thetime of this recording, am just
about ready to press play so Ican start watching season five.
Can you believe it?
Season five.
I cannot believe we're alreadyhere.
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Well, I'm already here.
I'm so glad you decided torevisit or visit for the first
time some of these shows withme.
Shout out to Elena who'swatching these for the first
time.
And thank you for all of you OGssharing your your love for this,
for these shows.
I fully, fully get it, but it'sbeen racking my brain since all
the finales.
Everything was wonderful.
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I don't know if we can countKnott's Landing as a
cliffhanger.
Do you guys count that as acliffhanger?
I didn't, considering.
Well, we'll get into that.
Go ahead and pour yourself upsomething bubbly and bright.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to go findme something to drink.
I forgot to bring it in herebefore I started recording.
But let's buckle up and decidehow are we gonna define season
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four and season three?
Yeah, my drink isn't gonna bebubbly today.
It's gonna have to be a littlebit more flat.
I need some hydration.
I realized.
I didn't realize until I hadscrubbed all the floorboards in
my car, which was totallyunnecessary because it's carpet.
After I'd done that for about anhour, I thought, oh wow, maybe I
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should cut back on the espresso.
I think I should.
Now my eye is twitching.
I'm just gonna I'm gonna chillwith some coconut water or
something.
Get my get my levels back onnormal.
But you pour up whatever you seefit to do.
What a ride, what a ride, what aride.
I was going back overnon-slanding, and I've come to a
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conclusion.
I want to shout out Jupiter forbringing this to my attention.
For those of you who arere-watching this in real time,
or if you've seen these seasonsseveral times in the past, let
me backtrack just a little bitbefore we get into that because
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I I feel like when I startedthis whole process, when I
started watching all theseshows, I did have a rough idea
of what primetime televisiondoes and what it will do based
on shows from the late 90s,2000s, etc.
I knew what daytime soap operasdid, and so my thought process
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going into watching these isthat it would be a hybrid of
both.
I expected this to be a lot moreinnocent than it has been.
I did not expect these to beimpactful, hard-hitting
storylines.
I had for some reason I thoughtthis was the age of innocence.
I don't really know why Ithought that.
But what I came to discover withseasons one, two, and three for
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the other shows, that's DynastyDallas and Falcon Crest.
Season one, across the board, Ithink you could say this with
any television show, whetherit's a comedy, a sitcom, or
whatever, season one is veryexperimental.
The only exception to that ruleis if it is a spin-off, then you
have to have several sort ofwinks and nods to the original
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show because you are invested insomeone from that.
But with Dynasty Dallas andFalcon Crest, season one is very
experimental.
Season two seems to be sort ofstacking on the things that
worked in season one, removingthe things that didn't, and
you're still sort ofexperimenting there, but now you
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you probably have a bettervision of where you want to go.
Season three, for the otherones, this is where you know,
okay, you're not afraid of beingcanceled at this point.
You're not afraid of not havinga job.
You're not as experimentalbecause you know what people
like, but now you have to bemore creative.
So I feel like you startedseason one is the super
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adventurous throw spaghetti atthe wall see with sticks.
Season two is let's add a fewmore ingredients to that.
Season three is like, okay, wegot our recipe.
Now we're gonna need somevariants to keep this
interesting.
I cannot say the same thingabout Knott's Landing, it is the
strangest thing.
I've been thinking about thislong and hard.
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It could be because number one,Knot's landing is a spinoff, or
at least season one reminds us alot that it is a spin-off, but
it's also another type of show.
It already has its own identityin some aspects, it is going to
be more dramatic.
You could tell that from thefirst three episodes.
And I don't think they'veactually strayed, I think
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they've really held on to thatidentity, and it doesn't feel to
me like they've ever tried to beanything else.
It is a drama, they've thrown insome soap, but it never feels
over the top.
You know what I mean?
You could definitely feel thedifference between this and
Dynasty.
I also okay, so going back towhat Jupiter said, thank you so
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much for your input.
I love it so much.
Jupiter mentioned they've seenthis show more than once, so it
feels like season three, some ofthe stories don't actually
connect, they're not really partof the grander scheme.
There wasn't a bigger picture,and I think that is the
difference.
I totally agree with that, fullyagree.
But I think the difference isthis, and I'd love to hear from
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some newer newbies, some peoplewho've maybe watched it once,
and then those of you who'veseen these shows over and over.
I'm watching this through thelens of someone who's never seen
any of this show before this.
So as things come up, I'm sortof just accepting them.
I don't really have a superstrong opinion about where it
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should not go.
Like I, you know, I haveopinions about the storyline,
but I'm accepting it as a story.
I'm not putting it all togetheras a cohesive story, if that
makes sense.
I'm sort of watching eachepisode, understanding that they
will bump into each other atsome point, but I think the way
Knott's Landing has been set up,to me, it's never really felt
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like there was a through line.
Not all the time.
I really do feel like I ampeeking into the living room of
four different families, andsometimes there's something
under the surface.
So let's go back to season one.
Season one of Knott's Landing.
Although it wasn't, I don't feellike it was super experimental,
I feel like it was just layingthe groundwork.
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You got to know who theneighbors were, you got to
understand what the city was.
You know, we know there's abeach, you know, um, one of the
neighbors is super active in thein the school district.
One of the husbands is a musicproducer.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you kind of get the lay ofthe land.
You gotta Sid and Karen owning abusiness.
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Gary's working at said businessbecause he just came out to LA
with no thought in his mind.
Laura's a housewife, Richard's alawyer, ginger's a teacher,
Kenny's a record producer, andthen you get to see how all
these things come together.
You start to see which neighborsare really close, which ones
aren't.
You you learn Laura has a littlebit of a secret from her past.
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You see that Karen probably hada different vision of her
future.
Val and Gary are just trying tofigure their lives out.
You know, they they're finallyaway from drama, they're just
trying to figure things out.
Kenny and Ginger are trying tofigure out their new marriage.
It doesn't feel like all thosestories, all of these could be
totally separate stories ontotally separate shows, and it
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would make no never mind.
The fact that they are togetherdoes create knots landing, but
it there's not really a throughline.
You you see what I'm saying?
I'm just sort of watching it,enjoying these people in this
community within this townhaving different things happen
to them.
Sometimes the neighbors knowabout it, sometimes they don't.
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I wonder, though, as an as anOG, though, if you because you
know the entire story, how howdifferent seasons one, two, and
three read from each other.
Because for me looking from theoutside in, recently discovering
this show, I can't say there'smuch of a major difference.
I don't really feel like I feellike they have their own voice,
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they definitely have their owntone, but I don't feel like
they've had to fight for anidentity the way that the other
shows have.
Knott's Landing seems to bebecause the premise is this is a
neighborhood, these areneighbors, and this isn't like a
family tearing each other apart,it's already set aside, it's
already very different from theother shows, but also these are
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four individual families um withtwo adults a lot of times on
different pages, so it justreads a little differently.
I'm just curious for you, OGs,if you if you felt the same way
about season three.
Because yeah, there wasdefinitely the the ghost episode
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was strange, but also I'm like,no, that was just weird.
Let's just be honest.
That one was weird.
I fully enjoyed it, but also itfelt like one of those Save by
the Bell episodes.
Do you know, remember theepisode where they go to the
Haunted Mansion or the not, itwasn't really haunted, it was
the murder mystery dinner.
It felt like one of those sidequests on Save by the Bell, or
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the time that they got therecord deal and they were
flashed.
You know what I mean?
They did that mockumentary.
It felt like that, and becauseI'm a kid from the 90s, maybe
that's why I accepted it soeasily.
Like, okay, that was weird, butalso in the grand scheme of
things, there's always like adream sequence episode.
There's always somebody sort offainting.
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I'm actually surprised therehadn't been more dream
sequences.
We haven't come across a singleone.
You know what?
No, I feel like dreams are fordaytime, nighttime TV,
whatever's happening is reallyhappening.
Ain't no such thing as a this isall an illusion, you got this
all wrong.
Like it's really happening, youjust have to deal with it.
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One thing that Knot's landingdoes have in common with the
other shows by season three isthat you still have to fold in a
new character or two.
In this case, we have the returnof Lily May.
She showed up for one episodeearly on, and she came back as a
totally different person.
I really, really like heraddition to this because she's
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she's okay.
Think about this, y'all.
Gary and Valen's home isprobably very, very quiet.
Never mind the fact that theydon't have children, never mind
the fact that they are um ableto keep themselves busy for the
most part, but they don't seemlike a couple who chats with
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each other very much, especiallyafter season two, as things are
progressing.
It feels like Gary is sort ofstepping back, focusing more on
work to keep himself busy.
You have to remember he's stilla recovering alcoholic at this
point, he could just be keepinghimself busy.
Valen is keeping herself busywith school and stuff, but
there's not a lot of dialoguebetween them that I have
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noticed, unless she was sick,you know, when she had the
cancer scare that happened.
But folding in Lily May as thisother voice has been very, very
helpful to me this season.
Her input, her ear hustling, theway she's sort of in everybody's
business all the time.
You know, she knows how to sheknows how to work country down
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better than anybody.
Plus, she is Abby just older.
I'm fully convinced after thelast episode, it hit me like a
ton of bricks.
Same person, different font.
No, no, no, not even differentfont, just different paragraphs,
same font, different paragraph.
Folding her in has been awesome.
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Also Jupiter thanks again.
This is the Jupiter episode, I'mjust gonna keep talking about
it.
Um pointed out that this is soseason three of Knott's Landing.
You lose a major, majorcharacter in a major way.
I didn't forget about that,obviously.
Didn't forget, but I think I wasfocused on how well Karen and
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her family were doing versus howthe rest of the cast has to sort
of overcompensate or the storyhad to change.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it had to become slightlydifferent, but I think they did
such a good job of allowing itto play out slowly.
So I didn't really.
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How do I say this?
It's not that I felt like Sidwas easily replaceable, but Sid
was also not the most impactfulcharacter.
Not on season one, not on seasontwo.
The best part of Sid was his hisrelationship with Karen, having
her having someone to spar offof, someone who's totally
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opposite of her, them raisingtheir super brat and their two
sons.
It was very interesting, but Ifeel like the show would have
been impacted so much more ifKaren had actually died versus
Sid.
Again, not saying he was easilyreplaceable, but his, you know,
things moved on.
The business still ran.
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Gary was there to run it.
The neighbors were able to stepin.
Karen had many people coming inand out of her house.
They they managed to keep herreally busy, she managed to keep
the brave front up.
But the fact that the showdidn't rush anything also sets
Knott's landing apart from othersoap operas.
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You don't have to bounce to thenext storyline as quickly as you
would on another show.
They took their time with it,and it it I'm not saying that it
was seamless, but yeah, I am.
I am actually gonna say that.
It was a seamless transition tothe point where by the end of
the season, I'm not eventhinking about Sydney more.
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That's just how that is.
Like I said, I think if Karenhad been the one to to die, then
it would have been a completelydifferent story.
Okay, so season three here onNot's Landing, they definitely
upped the Annie as far as as faras the scandal very, very
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seamlessly folded Abby in.
We already had a little peekabooon season two.
This is shame on me for notpicking up the clues that were
there.
I wasn't taking Abby's uminterest in Gary all that
seriously.
I forgot about the two sidechicks when she confronted the
other lady that one time.
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I didn't really take her thatseriously because once the IRS
came in at the end of seasontwo, she immediately sold him up
the river.
It was quick.
There was nothing left of that.
So I you know, I'm not reallythinking too much about it, but
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it was a it's an interestingdevelopment that we're just
where they took they gave Karena lot of time to navigate this
the her life without Sid.
I feel like the Abby Garybuildup was probably slower than
I thought.
And I'm I'm very confident thatI probably missed, I'm very
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confident that I missed somethings because I I wasn't taking
it seriously.
So as I go back and watch thison, you know, each episode back
to back to back, I'm starting tosee things a little bit
differently, but mostly I thinkNazlane just sort of expanded on
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itself.
They they brought in a couplenew characters.
I really like the addition ofJoe.
I like Lily Mae.
Um I didn't even mind Abby'sex-husband.
Abby's ex-husband was reallyimportant because you got to
see.
I I was kind of thinking when heshowed up that you would see a
different version of her behindclosed doors, but she is as
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steady as Karen is.
That's the other thing I'dwritten down.
It's season three.
I can't say I really know thesepeople any better than I did on
season one.
It's all starting to slowlyreveal itself, but I will say
this (17:45):
the most solid, the most unchanging people, and by that I
mean they're the exact same infront of a crowd as they are
when they're by themselves.
Karen is number one.
She doesn't really seem tofluctuate one way or another.
She's got something on her mind,she says it.
She wants to keep quiet, shekeeps it to herself until she
doesn't.
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She is very consistent, and I'mnot saying she's not growing,
but if I had to say you know onecharacter, I would say I know
that one pretty well.
Laura, same way.
She doesn't talk as much asKaren, but you saw her sort of
fortify her own spine thisseason.
She decides I'm gonna keep thisbaby, I'm gonna draw off this
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husband, I'm gonna get me acondo, I'm gonna draw off this
neighborhood until she couldn'tanymore.
But behind closed doors, andwhether she was behind closed
doors or whether she was with agroup, she's even to be the same
person all the time.
I will say the same thing aboutAbby.
The rest of the characters haveshown bigger parts of themselves
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this season.
It okay, I hate on Kenny a lot,but let me just say this.
He's Mr.
Rogers this season.
It still does not make a lot ofsense to me considering he was
this magical playboy, butsomething about since when does
a baby save a marriage?
Since when?
But I guess in this scenario itdoes.
I don't know.
To me, it feels like he wasprobably looking at other
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contracts.
Maybe they're gonna get rid ofhim sooner rather than later,
but he wasn't as impactful as hewas this last season.
That was a little bit unusual.
All the characters usually havea pretty solid um storyline
where you get to see some oftheir flaws, some of their
secrets come to come out.
Not really for him this season.
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Ginger, she's a new mom.
She's bored.
That is very normal.
She's singing.
She'll do, I think she reallyjust wants to get out of the
house.
She do a little bit of anything.
I bet if they if she had acouple of shifts down at the
IHOP or Red Lobster, she wouldtake that as quickly as she
would a singing gig.
That's just my opinion.
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I will say this though.
In a sentence, I never thought Iwould say Richard freaking Avery
showed up and showed completelyout this season.
I feel like he stole the show.
I think his story was evenbigger than the Gary Abbey,
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we're finna bang each other, orno, we're not gonna bang each
other over this uh bourbonalcohol gas or whatever we're
trying to make.
And when are they this okay,we'll get to that at some point,
I guess.
I I I loved him.
I I fell in love with Richardthis season, did not see that
coming, but that developmentman, that oh god, you got to see
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every part of him.
We're used to him being thissawed-off, mouthy,
overcompensating gremlin of aman, season one and two, to
being this really vulnerable,but also stronger than I
thought.
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Yeah, I I don't know.
I again, this is someone whohasn't seen the whole story.
What I see now, yes, he had amental breakdown, yes, he held
his wife captive, which isabsolutely unforgivable.
He went nuts, but also hisability to sort of accept it has
really surprised me the most,even more so than him going
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nuts.
Him going nuts was actuallyright on it, was on brand.
It wasn't season three, Richard,it was definitely season two,
Richard.
I could see having you knowsomething snap upstairs, but
I've been impressed.
I also one of you guys told me Ican't remember who I think it
might have been Bob.
That I'm gonna get this guy'sname because I'm tired of
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calling him just Richard.
Whoever the rig the actor is whoplays Richard.
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Oh my god.
Rich uh Richard Oh my gosh.
Hold on.
Mr.
John Plaschette Plusette, isthat his name?
Yeah.
Is that he directed the the SidDies episode or he wrote it or
something like that?
First off, if you're gonna killme on a soap opera, can we can
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we do it subtly?
I'd like to maybe fly off acliff so I have the option of
coming back at some point, butkudos to him.
You want to talk about characterdevelopment, character arc.
I fully enjoyed him.
I, in my opinion, he he LilyMay.
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Yeah, he and Lily May kind ofstole the show for me this
season.
They really wow, love it.
Yeah, love it.
Season three of Knox Landing wasamazing, it was wonderful, but
again, it's more of the same.
I don't think it follows thesame formula.
We could chalk it up to it beingthe spin-off, although you guys
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let me know this was actuallysupposed to be the first show,
but Dallas happened first andthen they had to sort of spin
backwards in order to make itwork.
They did wonderful.
I see this more as a a very um,it's a drama.
Heavy, heavy on the drama.
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And I can't wait to push play onseason four.
Part of me wants to sort offloor through season four so
that I can be on season fivewith all of them, but I'm not
gonna do that.
I'm gonna continue to let itplay out the way it has.
I have not noticed any sort ofdiscrepancies between this and
well, only one, only one or twobetween Knott's Landing and
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Dallas at the time of mewatching these.
Jock has officially died onKnott's Landing, which is very
confusing to me considering theyears aren't that different.
So season like he, you know, heclearly would have made it
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through 1982, right?
Season four of Dallas seems tohave shot around okay, so it was
like 1981.
And Knott's Landing, I thinkwe're still in 1982, so you
know, could have been a fewmonths.
I'm not really sure how theythey filmed everything.
If he passed away in April, thenwe are to assume that Knott's
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Landing, perhaps this is thetail end of 1982.
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Yeah, I'm gonna assume it's it'sprobably the beginning of 1982
when that whatever.
The point I'm trying to make isthere's not a huge discrepancy.
I imagine as I finish or startor excuse me, as I start season
five of Dallas, they'll probablyline up a little bit better.
To me, it doesn't spoilanything.
I have I don't really thinkabout Dallas that often.
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I am now because I want tofigure out if Val and Gary are
gonna try to work it out.
Part of me thinks they will,which is a little bit obnoxious,
but whatever.
I gotta let it play out, right?
I gotta let it play out.
We'll see how it goes.
All in all, fantastic season.
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We just got to learn a littlebit more about everybody, learn
a few more talents, a few moredesires.
You got to see the cracks in afew things, but ultimately it
was more of the same.
They just expanded the story alittle bit.
I want to circle back to thisbeing a cliffhanger.
I don't consider this acliffhanger because there's
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really no one else involved.
You know what I'm saying?
Karen and Laura and Lily May allknow that Gary is having an
affair with Abby.
Everybody kind of thought thatanyway.
Diana even knows at this point.
The only other people to findout is is Richard, Ginger, and
Kenny, which is probably notgonna be very difficult for them
to believe that, but nobody'sreally invested in Abby like
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that.
I don't think that's acliffhanger.
Even if Valen drove off, I mean,where's she gonna go?
Where's she gonna go?
She done have a job, she's kindof dependent on this fool.
That ain't no cliffhanger to me.
That's just a revelation.
Yeah, that's a revelation, not acliffhanger, as opposed to last
season when the car wasliterally flying off the side of
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a cliff, and I don't rememberwhat season one.
Oh, yeah.
Gary was running amok, runningout in the streets drunk and
whatnot for two and three weeksat a time.
Now, I do remember thecliffhanger at the end of season
three of Dallas.
I think we all do.
I am so glad.
I was a little nervous.
I guess I can tell you guys thisnow.
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Everybody had heard, or at leastat some point had heard about
who shot JR.
Magically, never had a clue,never had any inkling, nobody
ever said anything.
I tend to believe that peopleactually forgot who shot JR.
Coming into this, I wasn't surewhen that was going to come up.
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I was a little nervous that itwould have been much later in
the series.
I was thinking, you know, aroundthe seventh season or so, much,
much later in.
Didn't expect it to happen onthree, but I'm so glad it did.
Okay, if season one is throwingthings at the wall and season
two is building on it, seasonthree, you know who you are.
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I think Dallas decided toabsolutely smash the mold.
If any of the shows is solid,unshakeable, unmovable,
undeniable, it has its ownsignature look.
It is Dallas.
You know who Dallas is, you knowwho Dallas isn't.
You know who these charactersare, yes, they're growing and
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they're expanding, but youalready know what it is.
It's the family tension on thisshow that makes it so
interesting.
My girl, Sue Ellen, has a girl.
Girl, she's been up, she's beendown, she's been humiliated.
She had to sing BarbaraStreisand in her bathing suit.
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Poorly, might I add.
She's had to deal with herhusband having all these affairs
running up and down and allaround.
She's got to hang out with hermother-in-law all day.
She's struggling with babies,she got a baby.
She don't know if that's herbaby daddy.
Uh, she's been in love four orfive times at this point.
Lost a man, only for him tocrawl back over the invisible
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mountains of San Angelo, Texasto survive.
How far did this fool crawl, bythe way?
You ever heard of that?
You ever heard of somebodycrawling over a mountain?
I think when I was probably inlike I was definitely in
elementary, that movie Alive, doyou remember that?
Where the soccer team, um, theirplane crashed in the Andes
somewhere and they like werefreezing for a long time and
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they had to start.
Making these makeshift housesand whatnot out of plane
equipment and then they had toeat each other.
Oh my god, where was I goingwith that?
That was random.
Oh, mountains.
Yes.
Yes, of course.
Um, they didn't crawl to safety.
We can argue that, okay, theAndes, they were the higher
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elevation, it was colder, andthese invisible mountains over
San Angelo are not that high.
I don't even think we considerSan Angelo Hill Country, but
whatever.
Soap tax, soap tax, soap tax.
The point I'm trying to make isSue Ellen has been through it
all only to have a lover crawlback from the grave, tease her
for a little bit, save her life.
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Let's kind of wind back on thatbecause I had forgotten.
So at the beginning of seasonfour, JR is laid up in the
hospital.
We don't know if he's gonna beable to walk.
Him getting a cat busted in himhas reunited or re-sparked the
flame between him and his wife.
They're on again, off again, onagain, off, off, off, off again.
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She went from being in love tobeing hopeful to hoping that um
JR would rise to the occasion,knock Bobby off the throne.
She had played a hand in hopingand helping Bobby be dethrone.
She spent 90% of this, the firstpart of this season, in a
bathing suit.
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Tell you what, they had to sellat Kmart or Neiman Marcus or
something, because she had a newbathing suit every other
episode.
Despite it being a new season,it was it still managed to be
interesting, even though theywere falling into old habits.
This show was going to belather, wrench, repeat, from
what I can tell.
Brother against brother, brotheragainst brother, trying to keep
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it away from mama and daddy,wife trying to be her husband's
side, uh good cop, bad cop,Bobby works too much, Pam is
lonely.
You know, more of the same, butit managed to be interesting,
except for Pam this season.
Besides her Rick James hairdo, Ican't really say a lot was
interesting, even though theybrought her mother also back
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from the dead.
It kind of fell flat for me.
It fell flat because I gotoffended.
I got my feelings that RebeccaJG Wentworth and Pam are trying
to rewrite history as if Cliffis his money-grubbing, power
hungry.
He's a lawyer.
Obviously, he wants power.
Obviously, he was almost in theSenate.
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He had a pretty remarkablecareer built brick by brick by
him from the sweat of his ownbrow.
And as far as he could tell, theonly time he was knocked off of
his path was when one of theewings jumped in.
So let's not let's not come withthe man.
As if he stayed up and he hemade up all these things about
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this family.
They brought it up, they theystarted it.
He's finishing it.
I don't think he's money hungry.
I really don't like that setup.
And as far as I can tell, Dallasis pretty consistent.
Dynasty might throw a couplethings out there and then they
just don't talk about it.
But in this show, I don't theydon't really do that as much.
They don't always tie it up in anice neat bow.
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But I'm not a fan of therevisionist history about Cliff.
I am excited that Cliff is nolonger working at the DA.
I need him to be in positions ofpower so that he can challenge
JR.
Now, is he ever gonna win?
I am very confident in saying henever will.
He might get lucky a coupletimes, but I love the tension
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between the two of them.
I love the all-out unapologetichate for one another over
something that really ain't gotnothing to do with them.
This is between their dads,honestly.
But you know, I respect Irespect generational beef.
It's kind of fun or whatever,but no, what a what an iconic
season.
What an iconic time, from what Ican tell.
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Who shot JR?
One of the biggest storylines inhistory, as far as I can tell.
And boy, oh boy.
I'm trying to remember who Ithought it was.
I think I thought it was thewannabe senator kid whose name
escapes me at this point.
I really thought it was him, butJR managed to piss off 57
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people.
I love that when he came backand when he got back on his
feet, nobody cared.
It's kind of funny to see howeverybody was like, oh damn,
JR's back.
What a character.
I enjoy the season because ofall the tension, too.
So Bobby taking over, trying tobe there for his dad, be there
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for his mom until the till JRwas on the mend, and then having
JR have all this power bedsidewithout a Blackberry flip phone,
um, MP3 player, no sort ofelectronic device.
He is wreaking havoc from hisbedside with nothing more than a
rotary phone and the reputationfor being, I guess, good in the
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sack or wealthy or something.
I don't really know.
This man managed to sabotagefour and a half people from his
bed.
Incredible.
I like how devious he'sbecoming.
He's really embraced thisvillain thing.
I I don't think there's a bettervillain at this time if I'm
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comparing all three, and youknow how I love Big Perm.
He just does it a little better.
I'm wondering though, he doesn'tstrike me as a killer.
I can't wait to figure out whothis is in this bathtub, not the
bathtub, in this pool.
So I had a little time to thinkabout it.
And like I said, the lady in thepool had short hair, so that
immediately eliminates likeKristen.
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I don't think Lucy was in therunnings to fall in the pool.
I don't think Lucy dies.
I hope not.
That would suck.
But this lady tend to have shesort of had short hair.
So I'm like, it could be Pam.
I seriously doubt that, althoughI have noticed when I looked
into going to the Dallas thing,she wasn't on there.
And if you look at New Dallas orthe newest one, there's other
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people on there.
Like Sue Ellen's on there.
I haven't actually seen theshow.
Let me be very clear.
I am going strictly off ofposters and little snips.
Sue Ellen's on there, and thenthat weird lady who um the one
who was dead on Wisteria Lane onDesperate Housewives, she's on
there.
So I'm like, I don't know ifthat's supposed to be Pam.
I don't know if VictoriaPrincipal didn't want to come
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back.
I don't know.
But anyway, I hope Pam comesback.
JR did threaten her because shewanted to help.
Oh no, Pam's not even at thehouse.
Pam's not even at the house.
Pam is taking the baby to SueEllen.
It was the easiest kidnappingever.
It definitely ain't Sue Ellen.
Okay, I'm back at square one.
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I guess it could be hissecretary.
I was thinking about that.
The one that he fired, but Idon't know why she would go all
the way to his house.
Especially if she wrote her ownletter.
Who knows?
I can guess all day.
I'm gonna find out here in thenext day or so who hopefully who
that is.
Man, this is interesting.
So on where Nod's Landing has toover has to build this season
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around one of the maincharacters being gone
fictionally, Dallas is going tohave to dance around that IRL.
You had one of the major playersactually pass away, and they're
gonna have to figure that.
So I think going forward, Istill feel really confident just
considering the sheer number ofseasons they got through.
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I think they'll be able tonavigate that pretty well.
I mean, Ellie's still here,everybody else is still here.
It'll be very interesting to seehow that comes to pass because
I'm thinking at the time of thefinale, and I guess when on
episode one, season five, Ellieand Jock are in Paris.
So I wonder what they'll do.
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I wonder if they use his voice.
You have to be really delicatewith that.
I'm sure I don't know.
I'd love to, once I'm done withall this, I'd love to go behind
the scenes and just sort of seewhat their thought process was.
It seems like it'd be cool ifyou could do his voice, like if
they have recordings of himwhere you can kind of hear him
talking sometimes, or just maybehollering from upstairs.
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I don't know how long they'regonna be able to keep that up,
especially considering we knowon 1982 on um Knott's Landing,
they're already saying that he'sgone, that Jock is gone.
This is wild.
I don't know.
What else can we say aboutDallas?
Just fun, all in out fun.
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Stuel and stole the season.
I love she's probably the mostinteresting.
I love to watch her sort offight through fight through
this, like she has these momentswhere she's really hopeful.
And this season, she shedefinitely grew.
She wasn't letting JR bait heronce she really saw his true
colors.
She accepted that her sister didwhat she did pretty well, way
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better than I would have.
She kept going to Dr.
LB, she just sort of resolved tobe a good mother, and then her
booski comes crawling out of thegrave.
Man, it's a good season.
She's by far one of the mostinteresting.
The the boring part of this tome was the Lucy and Mitch thing.
I love that Mitch hates money,but also who wants to work 47
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and a half jobs?
Like, relax, relax.
But I mean, he's a man, he wantsto make his own way.
It was cool.
The Miss Dallas thing feelsfunny to me.
I I stand by this opinion.
They really do not know what todo with a young girl on their
show, or a young woman rather,between the ages of 18 and like
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22.
They don't know what to do withher if she's not sleeping with
older men.
Speaking of sleeping with oldermen, my favorite person to hate
on sometimes from the greatstate of Colorado.
Dynasty, okay.
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Season one, you throw things upagainst the wall.
Season two, you build on things.
They were bright enough to bringin Alexis, who, in my opinion,
probably helped save the showonce they really got her going.
Season three, we're introducedto Kirby and Mark Jennings.
They folded in these newcharacters really, really well.
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So by the time season fourrolled around, you were good and
used to them.
Still didn't really trust them,but used to them nonetheless.
But season three solidified it,solidified Alexis as a Kobe.
We had some marital issues.
Is this I'm I'm trying toremember.
Marital issues with yeah, withCrystal and Blake.
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Is this the Tuscani season orwas that two?
I think Tuscani was two.
Oh, it's New Face Steven.
Okay.
Folded in a few new characters,blah blah blah.
We end the season with the bang.
Literally.
Random meeting in the woods, bigfire.
I think Dynasty, by season four,thought, okay, listen, we're
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never gonna be as dramatic asKnott's Landing or Dallas.
I'll say that about Dallas, too.
Dallas is very, very dramatic aswell, but their tension feels a
lot different than Knott'sLanding because it's it's sort
of concentrated within thefamily.
Yes, there's a few otheroutliers who have problems with
the Ewings, but ultimately theyfight harder between themselves
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than they do with anybody else.
And passive aggressively, by andlarge.
JR's humor really sort of coatsthat, sugarcoats everything he
says, but ultimately, this isthe Cain and Abel all day, every
day.
Dynasty said, you know what?
Okay, we're not gonna have that.
That we don't have.
But what we do have is anincredibly witty woman who is
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not afraid to take a punch, notafraid to have a little cat
fight.
So it's like, let's build thistension between Alexis and
Crystal.
New face Steven is back.
He is booed up with Claudia theStallion, who is bullied into
high fashion this season.
And I think that was probablythe best thing that ever
happened to her, aside fromMatthew disappearing into the
jungle.
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She don't even realize shedodged a bullet getting away
from him.
I like that they're just sort ofplaying, they're playing with
Alexis.
Alexis carried this season.
Let's go ahead and say it.
Alexis and Adam.
Okay, it's all coming back to menow.
Season three was very heavy onthe bit players.
The bit players still carry thisa lot, it was never one of the
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Carringtons except Adam.
Jeff was front and center alittle bit more.
And let me put aside my my bias.
Yeah, actually, Jeff was waymore interesting this season
because of Kirby.
Joseph being off at thebeginning still does not make
sense to me.
I'm trying to figure out whatokay, let's think about this
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objectively.
Joseph hates Alexa, she hateshim too.
He can't stand her.
He doesn't want her to tellKirby that her mother died much
later.
It didn't seem like they knewthat at the beginning of this
season.
Am I right or am I right?
That doesn't seem like that.
I feel like somebody writtenthat wrote that in much later.
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And they're like, okay, yeah, wegotta figure out how to make
this Alicia lady relevant.
We'll say she went to jail andthen she died like three months
ago.
Which, based on this timeline,if you based on the time Kirby
was pregnant and and she wasshowing, that would be a four or
five months.
Joseph wouldn't have had thatinformation right there, right?
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Unless it happened like a weekbefore.
I don't know.
That's what I'd be talkingabout.
Soap tax, soap tax, soap tax.
Somebody didn't think thatthrough.
They just wanted this man offthe show.
So, like, okay, he's gonna he'sgonna be so devastated by the
news that his ex-wife isn't deadbecause yeah, that would be a
devastating blow to Kirby toknow that she has a living,
breathing mother, right?
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It was confusing, but watchingKirby try to get rid of Adam's
Demon Seed was entertaining,even though it shouldn't be.
That's never anything I wouldsay in real life.
On the show, it was hilarious.
I forgot we have theintroduction of Peter Crackpipe,
the filibuster, who wooed Fallonwith the body of an 87-year-old
woman in a booger sugar habit,managed to sweep this
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billionaire daughter,billionaire heiress, off her
feet with Nary a check, nodiamonds, no nothing.
Oh baby, can I can I borrow twomillion dollars?
I'll give your mom and them thishorse.
Shut up, please.
But you know what?
I laughed on each and everyepisode of this season.
I look forward to it.
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I can't even talk about Dynastywithout smiling.
If nothing else, they decidedthis is what we're gonna do.
We're gonna look good.
Amen.
We're going to be cutthroat,we're gonna talk real crazy to
each other, and we're gonna havea good time.
If every other season buildingup to this was building on more
and more, by season four,dynasty made a decision.
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I don't know if they'vesolidified it yet, but they made
a decision.
We're gonna be prettier,wittier, and if we gotta throw
in a couple, two, three fistfights every other episode, so
be it.
We had people fist fighting inpenny loafers at the top of a
skyscraper.
We had mud slung in faces, girlsfalling off horses.
Who else fought?
Did they fight again thisseason?
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I feel like I'm missing acrystal and Alexis fight, or
somebody had a cat fight.
I just can't remember at thismoment.
It's a blast.
Season four for Dynasty is fun,so entertaining, a little bit
outlandish, but I like that.
I feel like if you're gonna besilly, if you're gonna go there,
let's go there.
We did have a few too manyweddings, in my personal
opinion.
Enough is enough.
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Blake once again played himself.
That was the best part.
The oh yes, okay.
That was a fight.
The introduction of Dex Dexter,who has fast become one of my
favorite characters on thisshow.
He and Alexis got into a catfight.
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I've never met somebody sopretty who loves to fight who
wasn't like on the bad girlsclub.
She loves to talk slick and takea punch.
You gotta those type of peopleare scary.
Because it's like she's nevergonna shut up.
She doesn't care if we slap her.
Oh well.
She's been slapped a lot before.
I had that same thought.
Y'all remember when Will Smithslapped Chris Rock?
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The way Chris Rock took thatslap, I knew immediately.
He's used to getting hit in theface.
He must have he must have gottenbeat up a lot as a kid.
Oh, that's neither here northere.
Dynasty was all kinds of fun.
We're still gonna need todevelop some of these stories.
I think bringing back Sammy Joeis gonna be so impactful because
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she, within the what, two orthree episodes, she's already
pissed off.
90% of the staff, the housepeople can't stand her, her own
auntie can't stand her.
She's running among, but we doneed to get a blood test because
I'm starting to believe thatbaby ain't Stevens.
Why would you believe that?
She was running around LA doingany and everybody.
Okay, so because she had beengone, I love this when people do
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this.
On a soap opera, when you leaveand then you come back, or even
a drama, if you go away and comeback, there's the whole
storyline about what you weredoing in New York.
So I think it's only a matter oftime before some sleazy pimp
name slip back type boyfriendcomes crawling out from
underneath a rock, shaking herdown for money once she gets
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good and settled in Denver.
Also, we have the addition of anew Carrington, Miss Diane
Carroll, who was I wanted tocall her mahogany.
What is her name?
What is her name?
Domin Dominique?
What's the what's uh yeahDominique Deborah?
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I'm trying to see who she is.
So I'm thinking I'm I've thoughtabout this more.
Either Blake has a brother, orshe is related to him in some
other capacity through mom ordad or something, or um who
knows?
Maybe there's a whole notherbranch.
Maybe there's black Deborah's orthe black carringtons, I don't
know.
Either way, I I'm I'm excited tosee.
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This season was fun, top tobottom.
Sad to see Mark go, even thoughhe was kind of a dud.
He was just fun to be.
I loved him being sent to hisroom and being insulted.
Who she wants to insult now?
Shout out to Dynasty.
Dynasty just had a good time,they threw caution to the wind,
and it's probably one of thebest things they could have
done.
Because of what I can tell, itseems like they got more popular
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from this point on.
And I get it.
Dynasty is a type of show youneed to watch with a bunch of
people.
Gosh.
I wish I had gotten into the newone a little more.
I know it's off the air, but whoknows?
Maybe they'll resurge it again.
But this is it's a type of showyou you need to watch in a
group, it's to be fun.
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I might hit up my local libraryand play, we're gonna host a
dynasty night.
I think it'll be fun.
Speaking of fun, Indiana Chasein the Vineyard of Doom, I
thought was going to be anaction-packed, full-on
blockbuster season for FalconCrest.
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They did not let me down.
Let me be very, very clear.
They definitely didn't let medown.
But Knott's Landing is reallywho I thought Falcon Crest was
at first.
Falcon Crest is moredrama-driven, but because it's
it's surrounded or it's thefocus of this show is the
family, it's already a littlebit different.
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They're also more action-driven.
There's there's it's much morephysical.
There are much more stunts,they're outside more, and I feel
like on any show, if you'reoutside a lot more, there's just
a lot more action.
But where um Dallas has thiscomplete and total identity,
Dynasty has said, you know what,we're just gonna go this way.
Y'all gonna like it, or you'renot?
Knott's Landing is just showingyou a peek of people.
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I don't really know them thatwell.
I feel like I know thecharacters on Falcon Crest
really well.
And this season, it's like theywent back to the drawing board a
little bit.
Angela falling in love,allegedly, last season, marrying
Philip and all that.
That wasn't really her style.
She was back on her bully thisseason, and that's exactly where
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we needed her to be.
Richard, too.
Richard was tearing up theplanet, looking for leather
pants.
Pam, at the end of season three,he's fighting the cartel, he's
almost getting run over allthese things.
Season four, he said, you knowwhat?
F it.
I am a bad guy.
He did the wrecked Ralph.
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Villain talked to himself inreverse.
I am a bad guy.
I'm gonna do bad things.
Angela's the same way, andChase, God bless him, he's
self-righteous and always blind.
That's the thing.
He's blind to the the happeningsaround him, always trying to do
the right thing.
And sometimes you gottasometimes you gotta do the wrong
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thing.
You gotta be the wrong guy forthe right thing sometimes, or
the right guy for the wrongthing.
Yeah, I think that's a thingthat's the difference between
that's Falcon Crest thing.
This season, everybody who was avillain said, F it, I'm gonna be
that.
So we had an unprecedentedamount of people on the show
going for each other's neck.
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Chase got a little bolder, Iwill say this.
He got a little bolder.
He's still not quite where heneeds to be as far as being
cutthroat.
He's he's making people nervousnow.
Okay, so the so bringing inMaggie's dad at the beginning of
this season seems like a littlebit of a red herring.
They didn't really tie that up.
That's Maggie's dad, he is somearchaeologist.
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He basically showed up so thatAngela could tell the whole
world that Maggie was adopted.
And we can bring in her gamblingmother with all these vices.
Nothing really came of that.
The only thing I can think of,they're laying the groundwork
for another relative to pop upat some point, or this was just
an attempt to give Maggie orSusan Sullivan more camera time.
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We needed to have a story builtaround her that wasn't her
investigating someone else.
This is the only time she getsto just kind of hang out and be
a little bit drunk most of thetime, from allegedly, allegedly,
allegedly.
But it upped her Annie a littlebit more, especially when you
think about her sister Terry.
Now, Terry being a call girlwith this coked out Florida man
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ex-husband coming and shakingher down for money, her still
not knowing how to navigate thisworld of real money.
She's lonely, she's vulnerable,she's still trying to hold these
secrets.
That's just much moreinteresting.
But it was a little bit weird tome that we started off with the
um God, what was that guy'sname?
Diversity.
I don't think I ever got hisname right this whole season.
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It doesn't matter.
The Nazi child blows up hisfather only to systematically
and very quietly buy up realestate surrounding Falconcrest,
only to discover that thetreasure was in a cave.
He didn't have the wherewithalto send and do dirt dudes or at
least workers or you knowconstruction.
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There's a million ways to skin acat, and he he he he would
rather eavesdrop on these peopleat Falcon Crest rather than just
go into this cave.
All you needed is blueprints.
It's a little sloppy, it's alittle sloppier than I'm used to
for Falcon Crest, but I stillenjoyed it.
I just thought the whole seasonwould be about that.
But this man dies by episode 20,and nobody is any the wiser
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about all the gold and jewelsand the goony loot that is
trapped inside this caveforever, along with two bodies
that nobody managed to go in andcheck on.
They're like likelihood is veryslim to none.
So but it was fun.
That was a fun little storyline.
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I'd much, much, much preferthough the Cassandra and Riker
storyline to that other one.
Here's the thing with FalconCrest.
I've always been a huge fan ofthe writing on this show, and I
still am.
It's like they double-dip,though.
They just it's almost as if thiswas two totally different camps
of writers.
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They had to flip a coin or theywrote Chambeau to see who was
gonna get the first part of theseason, who's gonna get the end
of the season, and they made twototally it felt like two
seasons.
Didn't help that it was also 30episodes, it definitely felt
like it could have been two verydifferent seasons of the same
show, equally as good.
I just happen to prefer thelatter.
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It was great to see Angela backon her bully.
It was very entertaining to seeLorenzo.
I always want to call LorenzoLamas Laz Alonzo, to watch
Lorenzo Lamas squeeze out tears.
But he matured this season.
Lance was a much more maturecharacter.
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He's getting away from sort ofthat douchebag era, and he's
he's actually becoming a youngman and all the things that that
come with that.
The Lorraine love story was itwas entertaining, especially
towards the end where theiracting got just really, really
bad.
SPEAKER_01 (55:39):
I don't know why.
SPEAKER_00 (55:40):
I I I really enjoy I enjoy cackling at them.
Glad to see Bad Girl Melly Melback on her bully.
I wonder how she's gonna do injail, though.
I really wonder how she's gonnado in jail.
Oh, also, I love theintroduction of an Italian
relative.
Falconcrest has been theexception to the rule twice as
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far as bringing in a relative.
They brought in Cousin Michaellast season, and he was just a
stand-up guy all around.
All through season three, he wasa stand-up guy.
And then when they brought inFrancesca, the Italian baddie,
at the beginning of this season,she was a stand-up lady too.
Usually a relative meanshorrible bad news, but not in
this case.
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Not so far, not with them.
Trying to think who else showedup.
Oh, Julia came back from the notdead.
I'm not surprised by thatthough.
She you remember she crawledunder the little tunnel in the
spring house.
Everybody knew there was atrapdoor in there.
I don't know why no one checkedit, but she tried to turn
herself in after she couldn'tstay in that RV anymore.
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She's been one of the moreinteresting characters on this
show because from season one toseason two, she turned into this
from this mousey lady to thisalmost femme fatal who's
brandishing weapons, threateningpeople's lives, falling in love
with these weirdos and whatnot,but it being able to keep it
secret.
It's an interesting twist,especially when they do that
with women.
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You don't often see that, like,oh, she was she was able to hide
that she was madly in love withthis man, and you know, she was
she was keeping everybody closeto keep an eye on him.
But I mean, so far on this showand on Dallas, person
brandishing the weapon has beena lady, probably because they're
unassuming.
Kristen actually wasn't.
The more I think about Kristenon Dallas, that's quite obvious
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that it was her.
But Julia on season, end ofseason two, early season three
turned out to be the shooter waswild, especially with the
backstory of um almost call thiswoman Lana Del Rey.
You know who I'm talking about,Lana Turner, Tanner, Turner, and
Jane Wyman allegedly not gettingalong, and it's either her or
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me.
You know who it is.
Falcon Crest was fine.
It was just it was it was sodifferent from itself.
Like they have they establisheda long time ago.
We're gonna we're gonna bank onour acting, we're going to bank
on the writing, we're gonna begorgeous, and we're gonna we're
gonna have more action-packedsequences.
They did.
They had a guy almost runsomebody off the side of a
cliff.
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Explosions, two explosions.
The last minute buzzer beater'sromances threw me for a loop,
but um when I tell you I'm themost excited about that, I
suddenly really like Richard andMaggie together.
I do.
There's no reason for her toleave Chase because you know
Chase thing, Connie.
Come on now.
There's I don't he really likesher for her mind.
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He really, really does.
She knows how to make champagne,he knows how to make wine
barely.
I just don't see that being muchof anything.
But Richard and Maggie have beencool for like two seasons at
this point.
They're both adopted, they bothhave daddy issues.
She's like the only real friendhe has outside of Leather Pant
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Bam, but even that wasn'tgenuine.
Him and Maggie are being realcool.
He even didn't break hermother's kneecaps when she was
gambling too much at hisestablishment out of respect for
Maggie, of course.
But it was interesting.
I love all the twists and turnshere.
That's all that's basically whatI'm saying.
Falconcrest jam-packed so manystories into one season, and it
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still managed to make a lot ofsense.
There's a couple of plot holeshere and there.
I do wonder what they're goingto do with Julia because she is
so she's so sporadic.
I kind of forget she's there andthen she just shows up all of a
sudden.
I think she's at a convent withthe nuns or something, isn't
she?
I also don't think that cousinRobin is Prego.
I also do not believe Melissa'sgonna sit in jail.
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I just I don't see thathappening.
I imagine she's gonna escape.
They love a manhunt on thisshow.
That's true.
They love a Nazi storyline, anexplosion, and a manhunt.
And on this show, in they willturn each other in at the drop
of a hat.
I am especially Especially fondof Angela.
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I I really enjoy when they havefull grown men and women on
shows.
I don't think they're quitesenior citizens, but I do love
when when the older people onthe show aren't just props.
I don't really like to see themsitting around doing nothing,
waiting to babysit kids andwhatever.
I like you outside causingtrouble, making people nervous,
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buying up land, destroying yournephew, doing all those things.
That's what you need to be doingwith your life.
Who wants to wait till you getto the end of your life to just
be like, oh, I'm just gonnaknit?
No.
I'm gonna buy up property andmake people nervous, make people
uncomfortable.
I'm gonna put my grandson in ashipping container and send him
to Italy.
I'm gonna make my other nephewtuck in his whole life.
I'm gonna bankrupt him and thenI'm gonna tear down his hideous
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house because I can't stand it.
Or I'm gonna turn it into mypersonal closet.
Either way, I am forever andalways a stan for Miss Angela
Big Perm chanting.
All in all, I would say seasonfour was bigger, it was bolder,
it was shinier, and it was awhole lot more fun, I would say,
than any other seasons.
If we're talking about DallasDynasty and Falcon Crest, it was
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just a lot more fun this season.
Dallas knows exactly who theyare, they are exactly who they
think they are.
Dyne of Falcon Crest is two.
They're in an experimentalphase, though, with the addition
of all the new characters andall the new plots.
It's getting a little bit thick.
All of their stories kind ofbump into each other, where on
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the other shows, I guess theydo, but the consequences aren't
as prominent.
Like Dynasty, yes, okay, Joseph,the Joseph Kirby, Adam, Jeff
storyline ran parallel with theJeff and Fallon storyline, which
was also parallel with the umSteven and Alexis versus Adam
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and you know what I'm saying?
Those all did they're yeah,yeah.
There's really no majorconsequence or just kind of at
each other's throat a little bitor comp competitors.
But on Falcon Crest, it is acutthroat dinner every single
night.
And on Dallas, it's the sameway.
So I appreciate the deep-seatedhatred and rivalry from Dallas
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and Falconcrest.
I love the shininess, the camp,and the just sort of breakneck
storyline on Dynasty.
And I love the slow burn of NotSanding.
Can't wait to see what seasonfour of Not Landing is about,
though.
So I can kind of compare itacross the board.
At the rate of which it's going,I don't know if I'll ever feel
like I know all the characters.
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It seems like they give you justenough each season and then they
develop into something else.
On Dallas, it's just sort of arace against the clock.
Who's gonna be on top and forhow long?
How long before JR takes thethrone back is all you're really
worried about.
Especially with Jock being gone.
That is that's another thing.
I'm very curious to see how thatunfolds because JR already runs
(01:02:58):
Ewing Oil.
I can't imagine what he woulddo.
I don't can't imagine he can dotoo much because Ellie is still
here.
Yeah.
But, anyways, guys, I'm verycurious if you would like to
reach out to me and answer thisquestion.
I would love to hear youropinion.
Number one, I want to know youum from you OGs of Knott's
Landing, especially people whoreally, really are fond of knots
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landing.
Did you find season three to bea little bit all over the place?
I definitely did, but also Idon't know what's coming next.
And it felt just like, oh, okay,they just needed to kind of get
that out of their system.
And it didn't really feel thatdifferent from the other
seasons, but I also, yeah, I II'm going back through it.
So I just want to kind of lookat it through the lens of
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knowing what happens at the endof the season to see if it
changes my mind a little bit.
But I'd love to hear from youguys about that.
Also, who do you think the bestvillain is?
Is it Abby?
Is it Angela Channing?
Is it Alexis Carrington or is itJR Union?
I would like not Union, Ewing.
I would like to point out thatall the ladies have the exact
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same initials.
AC versus AC versus AC versus JR.
Alright, guys, I think that'senough for now.
I can't wait to start seasonfive.
I am just write all the names ina bucket, pull it out, and see
who I watch first.
Thank you for joining me on thisepisode of Soap Lore.
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I hope you continue to watchthese with me in real time.
If this is your first time, letme know how you stumble upon
this.
I think Elena told me that shewas looking for the other
dynasty.
Whoops.
I'm glad you found it, girl,because the original, I as far
as I can tell, is better.
I haven't watched the other one.
Oh, that's another thing.
One last thing.
If you do want to watch the newdynasty, from what I can tell,
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they don't really carry on towhat was going on before.
It's like a reimagining.
So it's new characters, samecharacters, new cast.
I think Sammy Joe is a dude.
You know what I'm saying?
Like they change a few things,so it won't spoil anything.
But I think if you try to watchDallas, it does.
Because it's a they'recontinuing on.
All right, guys.
Remember, if you'd like to reachout to me, you can send me a
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text.
Check the show notes if you'reon your mobile device.
There is a link that says sendme a text.
I can't text you back, but Iwill always respond to you.
Or you can reach out to me theold-fashioned way via email at
soapplorpodcast at gmail.com.
That'sS-O-A-P-L-O-R-E-P-O-D-C-A-S T at
gmail.com.
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In the meantime, in betweentime, rewatch your favorite
shows.
But yeah, if you love it, let'sjust keep watching and let's run
this up.
I really do feel like we needto, I don't want to say
evangelize, but spread the wordfar and wide about some of these
shows.
This is where it's at.
Where else are you gonna get 20plus episodes of prime time?
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Fantastic drama each and everyepisode.
Where else are you gonna dothat?
Stay hydrated, stay moisturized,mind your own business, and keep
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