Episode 04 - Oh Dear John

 Show Notes from the Hosts:
Taylor talks about the positive responses to the podcast. First Podcast to have a guest. In this episode we are joined by Cassie to discuss Dear John letters! Cassie took her last drink in August 2019. 
Set up the format of how we will deal with guests, more discussion and less of drunkalogue.
Eric is excited about the introduction of our Guest Format.
Taylor discusses shift in our relationships with alcohol.
Alcohol is a bad relationship that we need to let go.
Eric introduces the idea of alcohol and the intimacy we will have with it.
Cassie's one regret in early sobriety is that she never wrote a breakup letter with alcohol.
Taylor adds: The substance becomes comfortable and we don't want to give it up.
There is comfort in the familiar of our relationship with alcohol.
Time causes us to forget, but a Dear John letter creates a reminder or buffer to forgetting .
Cassie compares how women forget how painful child birth is when they want to do it again. We forget the pain.
Eric talks about how we only romanticize our relationship with alcohol and think that relationship was healthy.
Taylor talks about the 5 stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance is part of this "breakup".
What am I supposed to do now?
We get to the point with alcohol that it no longer serves me.
Cassie discusses how alcohol allows us to fit in.
Eric discusses that the early beginnings of relationship with alcohol
Our process with ditching alcohol may cause a rebound with other vices.
Taylor: We need to be honest with our role in this relationship.
Alcohol hasn't changed, we have.  I have to realize that I'm the problem.
Eric starts with the tool of the use of space to help us get through. Tool of space ask the question of why am I feeling this way.
Cassie would set a timer and do an activity to keep her mind off of drinking, which gave her that time, Also, write the damn letter!
Taylor has made his addiction an actual character that he could deal with. 
Taylor introduces the idea of HALT: Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired. 
Takeaway tool identifying the true feeling of why you
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