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February 25, 2025 26 mins

Fan Mail Me Brrrruuuuunnnden

This episode focuses on the intriguing concept of six degrees of separation, highlighting the surprising ways we are all connected. Through personal anecdotes and discussions about social interactions, the hosts emphasize the importance of connection and the impact of both real-life and social media friendships. 

• Discussion of six degrees of separation theory
• Anecdotes of unexpected connections
• Influence of Kevin Bacon on the concept
• Contrasting social skills among individuals
• Reflection on social media's impact on relationships
• Story of connecting with a newfound cousin
• Closing thoughts on the beauty of connection

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody, it's Ditto, we're back.
Another episode of Saki To Me.
I'm here with Keebler.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey everybody, how's it?

Speaker 1 (00:04):
going and we are here for the bacon.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah, I love me some bacon.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Saki To Me, the podcast that connects people to
people.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
A little bit of eggs, side of toast.
Oh boy, not that kind of bacon.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
You are in a jovial mood this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I am, that's because I got my Celsius over here.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I think you should stop drinking it.
All right, at least put anipple on it Slow it down, man
Slow it down.
Anyway, we are here.
We are going to talk about sixdegrees of separation, six
degrees of Kevin Bacon.
Yeah, I'm ready to learn.
We are all about connectingpeople to people.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
What better way to do it?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, with a little bacon, and it's crazy because
there are some people that arereally really good at it.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, we know a few.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
And there are some people that absolutely suck yeah
.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
And you might be looking at one of them right
here.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
No, you're one of the ones that are good at it.
I could be, you are, but thereare people out there that just
have a hard time making friends.
Yeah, that's true.
And then there's people like methat can't shut up.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
No, I could probably walk down the street in maybe
New Haven.
Hey, you know Ditto Shit.
Yeah, I know Ditto Fucking.
Guy's a righteous dude.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
That's how it goes.
That's how it goes.
Are you talking about theprophet?
You talking about that prophetup there?
Yeah, yeah.
And the six degrees ofseparation is a theory.
Okay, that was devised way backin in the 1800s by a guy.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's right at the tip of your tongue.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yes, it is yes, it is yes, it is Frigges Kierenthe.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh, I believe it was his name.
That's a good name.
I like that.
Yeah, you spit that out nice,and he started with handshakes.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, his whole thing was six handshakes out of 30
people.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
They're going to turn around.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Shake another six.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Shake another six, or shake another 30.
And eventually you will haveliterally shook everybody's hand
, which is really, if you thinkabout it, common sense.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, yeah.
Eventually you're going toshake everybody's hand.
You think Right?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
So you are in it.
It combines with like wow, it'sreally a small world if you
think about it.
Yeah, it's like I called for amortgage to a thing in Tennessee
, right, right, yeah, and I gota guy from the town over from us
.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
No kidding.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, he's working in Tennessee at a mortgage company
.
I call him.
He's from the town over fromwhere we live and we're talking
about the construction that'sgoing on.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
It's like, wow, are you talking about the thing in
cheshire?

Speaker 1 (02:26):
yeah, gotcha yep the new uh uh shopping mall and all
the condos, the condos and we'retalking about it.
I'm like I can't believe.
I called from tennessee.
A random mortgage company rightin tennessee got a guy from
cheshire and we had aconversation, really kidding and
we kept in touch love it.
He's really yeah, he's like.
Anytime something happens, I'lllet you know no kidding, I love
it.

(02:46):
Perfect.
This is what you do.
This is what.
That's how easy it is forsomebody like me, right, but it
isn't easy like for people.
Some people can't do that.
No, true, which is crazy, andit was all by chance, right,
none of it.
Not only that, but he owns arestaurant chain around here,
mission barbecue.
He doesn't, I lied, his cousin,his cousin does okay, yeah, his

(03:09):
cousin does.
Oh, that's some good barbecuetoo that's some good barbecue up
here that really is, and theydo a great job, I agree, but
anyway, I wanted to get intotalking about how people meet
people, yep, and why there arepeople that are really good at
and why there are people thatreally aren't, and then we'll
get into talking about sixdegrees of Kevin Bacon.
Oh boy, because I'm one degreefrom Kevin Bacon.

(03:30):
Yeah, you are.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'll tell you that story around the end.
I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
But anyway.
So it's a mathematic equationor algorithm of six steps.
Right, that's the degrees ofseparation, and it's been
glamorized, it's, it gotglamorized.
It became famous in like the90s.
Okay, because kevin baconhimself said that, something
like he had worked witheverybody, or he's worked with
eddie right.
Somebody that has worked withsomeone else, entertainment, yes

(03:58):
, right and so that started outand three guys in like
pennsylvania and he didn'treally at first.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
he didn't really care for first.
He didn't really care for it.
No, he didn't.
He thought it was like a dissagainst him.
You know Well, like putting himdown, I wouldn't really call it
a diss, but it wasn't the mostpositive thing, no.
But then he grew to like itbecause he realized that he
knows a lot of people or workedwith a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, you know, and that's why it became about Kevin
Bacon.
Right, it was three guys fromAlbright College in Pennsylvania
that came up with this becausethey watched two movies back to
back, okay, and they're like,wow, he really did work with
everybody, he's been around.
So the story is that you go andyou take an arbitrary actor.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
And then you have to go and see how many you have to
do it within six steps to get toKevin Bacon.
To get to Kevin Bacon, okay,and most of them now are like
two steps.
Wow, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
And you're one step, I'm one step, but we'll get to
that later.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Okay, yeah, that's the story of the day.
Social media says it's threeand a half steps, which with
social media nowadays itprobably is.
It could be, because you'reprobably connected to more
people not necessarily connected.
It's not like you're shakinghands anymore.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Right right.
Put your friend requesting yeah.
On social media you get arounda lot quicker than shaking the
hands.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Which we talked about last episode.
Right, so they claim it's lessnow, but it's no fun at three
and a half steps.
No, no, and you're not pickingany actors to do this with.
True, it's like yourself, likeI'm, I'm two degrees, two
degrees from kevin bacon.
I'm not one degree.
One degree would mean I actuallyhad to work with kevin bacon
gotcha so but and like I wassaying, this ties in with a

(05:40):
small world that small worldtheory like you turn around like
, oh yeah, now I have noticed inthe small world, that small
world theory Like you turnaround like, oh yeah, now I have
noticed in the small worldtheory that there are a lot of
people that name drop.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Right.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
And they'll go.
So let's just say we're goingto go back to New Haven for
pizza and we're sitting theretalking with a waitress.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, Donna At Sally's.
Yeah At Sally's.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
We're like Donna, where are you from?
And she's like I'm from ParkHampstead, Right yeah.
And we're like, oh, ParkHampstead, Do you know?
Such and such.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
That's where my in-laws live.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Oh yeah.
So you say do you know myin-laws?
Yeah, all of a sudden yourworld just got smaller.
A lot.
Yep, yep.
So now, you are now two degreesaway from Ravazio's Right,
because of her Because of her.
That's how that all goes andthat's how people meet and it's
funny to watch because, like Isaid, there are people that are

(06:30):
naturals at it and there arepeople that just absolutely suck
Right.
And I've watched people andit's funny to watch him.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
And you have a friend that's awesome at it.
He's awesome at it.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
He does it all the time, he does it everywhere, and
it doesn't matter, he's just sogood at it.
Yeah, and his name is Ham.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Our boy Ham.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Ham will walk up to anybody and just be like, hey,
how are you?
I'm such a Tom Ham.
They'll tell him his name, he'slike at it and he's pleasant.
I love that guy, I do too, andhe's pleasant about it and it's
just crazy how well he can do it.

(07:09):
Yeah, I obviously do it in adifferent way.
I like to use humor.
First, I don't go in and startsaying, hey, do you know this
person or this person?
I go in and I'm like, yeah, Iwouldn't have been able to
handle that Something, whatever,it is Right, and crack a joke
real quick to break the ice, yep.
And then I start talking topeople.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Right.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
And that's how I do it personally.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
But I don't.
Mine is probably through myprofession when I was a mailman.
You probably know everybody.
Anyway, I've known quite a fewpeople.
Yeah, yeah, I, I actually met.
Well, you wouldn't know him.
Major League umpire used tolive on my route back in.
Yeah, didn't you deliver toBerman?
Oh, chris Berman, yeah, yeah,used to call me Tom.
Could never get my name right.

(07:47):
I love you man.
I mean, he was a good,righteous guy.
Come to his front door.
Middle of January.
Hawaiian shirt, shorts andsandals.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
You right now.
Yep, I didn't know this.
This is completely out of theblue.
Connect yourself to Kevin Baconthrough Chris Berman, through
Chris Berman.
Oh, I know, I don't know if Ican do it either, but let's try
oh man.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well, I can't think Chris Berman was on.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Chris Berman was in a movie with Will Ferrell.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
He's been.
I believe, Hasn't he been on,like the Adam Sandler movies?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yes, what movie was Will Ferrell in the Adam Sandler
?
So that's how you do this.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Right.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
So now you would go.
Was Adam Sandler ever in amovie with Kevin Bacon Right?

Speaker 2 (08:31):
This is how we put it together.
Oh, that's how you put ittogether, got you?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I know Chris Berman Yep who was in a movie with Adam
Sandler, but there's otherpeople in Adam Sandler movies
who have probably been in amovie with Kevin Bacon for a
show.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I wish I would have thought of that before we
started this, because I couldhave gave you the rundown.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Right?
Well, it will take too longright now to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, Well, when we get to video we'll have it
figured out for you.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Well, it's going to be too late because we're going
to get the video first.
Oh shit, You're stillstruggling with the video stuff.
I am.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Dude, I don't pay attention.
Like I said, if I paidattention I'd learn something
new every day.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I got to remember the movie right here and I'll tell
you my story right now becauseit seems to fit.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, this is running right into our.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
All right, I'm two degrees from Kevin Bacon.
I met Mary Steenburgen inMartha's Vineyard, did you
really?
Yes, talked to her, said hey,how are you Nice to meet you?
Blah, blah, blah.
Which says to me that we arenow friends?
Not at all, but it says to mewe are now friends.
Well, yeah, I Line with KevinBacon, no kidding.

(09:39):
So that would be my connectionto Kevin Bacon.
Wow, that's pretty good.
I love it, and I'm sure if youIMDB'd Berman, you could figure
it out right now.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
You probably could.
You know who could figure itout really quick Greg, yeah, but
he's dead.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
He's on the McAfee show.
I gotta stop saying that.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
He's a the McAfee show.
I gotta stop saying that.
He's a couple steps up from usnow.
Yeah, God damn you Greg.
Well, look at it this way we'regonna have to edit this out.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Berman has been in a lot of things.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Well, he's been in a lot of movies.
Yeah, usually he's himselfsports broadcasting, all right,
he was in Necessary Roughness toProgram.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Uh, eddie Kingpin Coach.
And just real quick, see ifanything overlaps, real quick,
and then I'll just type them intogether.
Alright, this is where I I'm,I'm failing.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
You're yeah, this is where.
This is where you suck, shut up.
Okay, chris Berman was in GrownUps 2.
Yeah, hold on.
Damn, kevin Bacon's been a lotof shit, chris, we could have
used Greg, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
All right.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Let's just do it this way Use the necessary roughness
Draft day they both live in.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Connecticut.
Okay, no, I'm just kidding.
Anyway, we have wasted a lot oftime there.
I should have pushed pause.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Probably should have.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Anyway, we should have.
Anyway, we'll get that for thevideo.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, that'd be great .
Yeah, give me a story.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
What kind of story?
You ever run into anybody inyour life that you didn't know
you were related to?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, you want a funny story.
Yeah, I'll tell you a funnystory.
I'll tell you one back, alright, alright.
This goes back to when Istarted dating.
After I got divorced, wentonline Tell me you didn't date
your cousin, I went on a datewith one of my third cousins.
Stop, swear to God, but she wasmy third cousin.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
I didn't go on a date but mine's kind of like that
yeah, we went on a date.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Mine's kind of like that.
We started bullshitting andnext thing, you know, we're like
wait a minute.
And I was like are you kiddingme?
And she's like no.
I'm like, well, this is myfather's name.
She's like are you kidding me?
So we both made a call at thesame time, got our parents on
the line.
I was like, yeah, that's mysecond cousin.
So I'm like wait, holy Christ.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
So it's a little family reunion.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
See Through social media, through social media,
yeah, and I media through socialmedia.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, and I had nothing to do with that everyone
, I just want you to know thatno, I was at a golf tournament
okay, once and I'm sitting thereand and it was for, uh, the
rotary club, I believe, yeah,and I'm sitting there and
there's like four people up onstage and one of them's a young
girl, younger, younger girl.
Yeah, I'm like, why does shelook familiar?
There's something about thatgirl.
I either know her fromsomewhere or I don't.

(12:19):
I had no idea who she was.
Zero.
Now, just to preface this wholestory, I have a whole side of
the family I don't really evenknow.
Okay, I don't even knowMother's side, father's side,
father's side, father's side.
And so I'm sitting there, wefinished a round of golf, we
finished the tournament, we'resitting there for the dinner
afterwards, blah, blah, right,and that girl walks up to me and
she says hey, you're my cousinjust out of the blue.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Out of the blue, how did she know your name?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
she knew who I was she did, she did.
She knew who I was.
I didn't know who she was andshe walked up to me.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
She's like, you're my cousin, and then you went on a
date with her no I never went ona date with her.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I gotta save face here but it was weird, because I
was looking at her.
I'm like, why do I know her?
Right, how do I know her?
Why is she so familiar?
Okay, and I had I'd never mether before, I hadn't ever seen a
picture of her.
No kidding, and I'm at thisgolf tournament and this girl
just out of the blue, yeah, islike it wasn't anything weird.
It was just like why do I knowher?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
right, right, you could.
You had a feeling, I had afeeling yep.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
And then she walked up to me.
She's like you're my cousin.
No, I'm like, wow.
And she was from the other sideof the family that I have never
really met.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
No, wow, yep, and she's like hey.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
That's pretty cool.
How are you?
And we hit it off, obviouslybecause we're family now, yeah,
now yeah.
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
She lives in Connecticut, she lives in Sout.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Are you kidding me?
I wouldn't know if I wasrelated to him or not.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
How the hell does that happen?
I don't know, but I'm trying tofind it out.
What's your father?
What else has he been holdingout on you?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
No, he didn't hold out, oh, he didn't.
I knew this the whole time.
Oh, okay, so long story short.
My grandfather was exiled fromthe family because he married an
Irish woman.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Oh boy, oh boy.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
And so that side of the family said nah, the
Italians didn't like the.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Irish.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
They didn't like it, so they just, they disowned them
, gotcha.
And then so my father and hisbrothers and sisters and my
grandmother were by themselves.
Okay, so I have a whole set offamily members.
I don't even know who they are.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Really.
Yeah, that's crazy, that iscrazy.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
I go, I got stories for days.
We should talk about that stuffat some point in time.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
I could tell you stories that would make your
head spin.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
That one.
I'm still trying to stop myhead.
It's like the exorcism in here.
She walked up to me.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
She's like, yeah, we're cousins.
I was like who the fuck are?
We hit it off.
It was great, it was nice tomeet her.
Yeah, it was really nice tomeet her.
Then I find out my aunt went toItaly.
Okay, and I have relatives overthere, same name and everything

(14:52):
, and they're loaded.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Apparently.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Really, what happened to you?
Where's your cut?
No, they make their own olives.
It's nuts Olives, yeah, butthis is how small the world
really is.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
It is, yeah, I mean, once you reach out and you
really think about things.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, I'm calling Tennessee, I get a guy from
Cheshire, I'm at a golftournament, I meet a cousin I
don't even know I have, and thenI find out I've got relatives
in Italy that I've never met.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Wow, I'm like wow, this is nuts, this is crazy
23andMe bullshit.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Ditto bro, the prophet.
The prophet brings peopletogether.
What's got two thumbs in as aprophet, this guy.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
We went way off track here, not really, no, no, we're
going to have to do a lot ofediting.
I also met Chris Fowler fromESPN.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
They all lived in Cheshire, you know we could sit
here and just go like I'm onedegree from Will Ferrell because
I met Ditka oh yeah, Ditka.
Emmett Smith, Sean Salisbury,Really who's in Adam Sandler
movies?
Yep, who else?
Rich Eisen, Where'd you?

Speaker 2 (15:59):
see all these guys Downtown, stuart, scott,
downtown.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Oh yeah, downtown Southern Always.
Yeah, because ESPN is right upthe street, true, true, so they
were always downtown.
Yeah, and I used to playbasketball at the Y with Stuart
Scott and Rich Eisen.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh, he played there.
Yeah, no kidding.
God rest his soul.
Yeah, he was a good guy.
You know what?
I got a story for you talkingabout Stuart Scott.
You'll see my shirt and video.
But I took my kid the Gaho, theGaho, yeah, gho, what it used
to be called the GreaterHartford Open here in
Connecticut Took my son to thePro-Am Day and Stuart Scott's
coming down the fairway andKeith walks up, seven years old.

(16:34):
Hey, mr Scott.
He says to him, can you sign myhat?
And the guy says Stuart Scottsays to the security guy he goes
, let this kid come out here.
He walked the whole hole withStuart Scott.
No way, yeah, I swear to God.
Yep, signed his hat, gave him acouple of golf balls, a little
bit of candy too.
I guess he had a stash in hisgolf bag.
No kidding, I swear to God.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
He always had a rap of being like a mean guy Exactly
.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
But every time I met him or saw him he was always
very pleasant, very pleasant.
Yep, he's like how does he getthis motioning?
You know, give him the motionto the, to me, to let my son
come, and he says hey, let thatkid come out here.
And he walked.
The whole keith was ecstatic,it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Oh, little things like that, you know yeah, and
it's funny seeing those guyswalk around.
Yeah, because they're supposedto be like these superstars.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yep, and then they're just out of the bar, yeah, and
they're sitting there havingdrinks, right.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
They walk up to him and they're like, hey, what's up
, man, yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I mean, you talked about Ditka.
I remember him now that yousaid he goes, went.
Well, then they're like friendsbecause he'd go into the
fireplace and he's like buy mygirls around.
You know, they'd be all sittingin the corner.
Yeah, my sister and her wifeand some of their friends, hey,
get my girls around.
And they all stopped and talked, yeah, and they exactly, they

(17:55):
weren't really dicks.
No, no, well, he was a dick, hewas Mike Ditka.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
He didn't want to be bothered.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
No, he didn't Right.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
But he wasn't really a dick.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Right, I mean, if you mind your business and just
gave him his space, they openright up.
Yeah, especially him.
He was like a big teddy bear.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
One night I sat at a bar with Sean Salisbury.
It was he and I and we werewatching Red Sox and Yankees
game.
No kidding, he and I.
Now, I don't know this guy.
I know who he is, obviously,but he doesn't know me.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I've never met him before.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
We're just sitting next to each other.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Chatting away.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, and we're talking about the girls at the
bar.
Yep, which ones are hot?

Speaker 2 (18:31):
and which ones aren't , oh boy.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, and all of a sudden and I'm waiting for two
girls to come get me Really theywalk in, they come up and
they're like, hey, you ready togo?
I'm like, yeah, sorry, but Igotta run.
He looks at me with like threeglances what he's like.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
That's my guy.
That's my new friend.
It was good hanging out withyou see you later.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Loser.
Yeah, I felt bad, but what areyou gonna do, hey?

Speaker 2 (19:00):
come on, sean, when you got it, you got it.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Apparently he doesn't have it he was was a good guy
too, though, was he?
Yeah, yeah, it was funnysitting next to him, he was
pleasant, he was nice, he wasfunny.
Right, he was cracking jokes,because obviously, if you make
it to the big leagues in anysport, you can break stones like
nobody's business, absolutelylevel of breaking stones in

(19:22):
order to get to that level?

Speaker 2 (19:23):
He wasn't, was he not that high of a draft pick, was
he?

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I don't know.
I can't remember either, but Ijust know he was a quarterback
for the Vikings.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
He's backup quarterback basically.
No he was a quarterback for awhile, was he?
He was a starter.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
A couple seasons he was a starter Really.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, that I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
He was, but there were a couple of years where he
was the starter Gotcha and hedid well.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Oh yeah, if you make it to that level.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
So here we are, sitting here talking about
connecting people, and this iswhat happens around here, right?
Yeah, yep, and now we'reconnecting ourselves to Kevin
Bacon.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
We're trying like hell, trying like hell to do it,
and it's nuts how simple itreally is and if you take a long
look at it and because theyreflect on where you've been and
who you met, and it's like,damn, I'm one step, two steps
away everybody's right there.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, especially with the internet.
Now you're two steps away fromanybody.
Oh, it's really close now youcould legit send kevin bacon a
message right now yourself.
Yep, that's how easy it is, nokidding.
But back in the 90s, if youcould get within three, you were
a legend.
No shit, that's how that went.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I'll tell you one person you don't want to be
connected to.
Who Diddy?

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Hell, no, hell, no.
It's funny how all those peoplesaid those bad things about him
all those years.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, it's a little rewind that we're doing here.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, let's not do that though.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
No, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
We're getting to the end of this.
I hope I have enough.
We might have to redo thiswhole show.
We might have to.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
We might Because we have brain freeze in there.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
I have a whole set of notes written out.
Yep, they were useless,absolutely useless.
I didn't choose any of them.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
I told you I'm just coming along for the ride.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Oh man we got off on a tangent on that one.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, when you told me about this show, I was like
I'll just come and share someairspace with you.
That's right, because you knowI like to hang out, yep.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
And now we're going to head over to the old video.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Oh boy, and we'll go from there.
A couple of clowns, sammy.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
J come and watch.
Yeah, Sammy J, I always forgetto throw out shout-outs.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah well, sammy J, well, we nailed Ham today.
Yeah, ham got the big one today.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
He got the big one.
He got credit and everything.
He's good at what he does.
He's really good, except I'mstill pissed at him for not
talking to Julianne Hough.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (21:38):
No, I swear to God oh .
Oh my god, I'll tell you thatstory quick and hopefully it
makes it into this.
We went up to Vermont Yep For aski trip.
Oh damn ham.
And we were at.
I believe it was a wobbly barn.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
In Vermont.
Name it a bar.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, there's the Pickle Barrel and the Wobbly
Barn.
There were two big ones.
I think it was a wobbly barn, Ican't quite remember, but Chuck
Wicks Was performing there thatnight.
Okay, he's a country artist,gotcha, she was dating him at
the time.
No, yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
And she was in the house.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Oh God, yeah, and Ham and I are up there, yep, and
I'm like Ham, I'm elbowing himRight.
I'm like go talk to that girl.
She's freaking hot, because Ido.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
You didn't really know her at the time.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
I had no idea he did, and he's like dude.
Do you know who that is?
I'm like no.
That's why I want to find out.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
You don't look like a Dancing with the Stars type of
dude.
No, this was well before.
This was almost before she wasactually Julianne Hough.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
No kidding.
Yeah, this is right on the cuspof where she became her status.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
He's like that's Julianne Hough, I look at her
and I'm like who the hell'sJulian Huff?

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Who the fuck is that?
I have no idea.
I can see your face.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I'm like all I know is she has blue eyes and she's
hot.
Let's go talk to her.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
A little blondie he's like I'm not going up there,
I'm not going up to her I to doit.
Oh, ham, and that's because shewas actually dating Chuck Wicks
at the time, gotcha andwhatever.
So he knew the story.
You didn't know, no, but Itried to get him to do it and
that's one of the stories, yeah.
I love it, and if you ask him,he'll tell you it's true.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
About the time and I want to run off on another
tangent here when you and I went, we had Miller and Hamm drove
up before us and you and I hitevery bar going up the hill and
I said they're going to besitting there and you're going
to be sitting in one bar and Ibet you they were here all night
, yep, and they'll be talkingwith the bartender.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
That's when I was going to get a free tattoo.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, Because there was a tattoo.
You're a blank canvas.
You're a perfect canvas becauseyou have nothing going on.
But long story short, Denno andI go to about seven bars, eight
bars, having a great time.
We get to the last bar.
There they are sitting in thecorner talking to some bartender
hey, what have you guys beendoing?

(23:59):
Wow, we're waiting for you.
We've been here all nightwaiting and you're like of
course you have.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
No, I looked at you and I said I told you.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I told you, so I told you.
But Ditto was right, again theprophet, and we went to.
We hit every bar.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Every bar we were crisscrossing the street.
Screw them, they're going to bewaiting for us, yeah,
crisscrossing the street.
Where the hell are these guys?
We want to go do something.
That was a good time.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
That was a good time I don't know if it made any
sense, but it was a good time.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
It did make sense, because that's look.
Even then we made friends withthat tattoo artist oh my God,
yeah, her name was Elisa, Ibelieve.
I think you're right and wetried to get into that tattoo
fest and we would never have metup with Ham or Miller If we
went, because we would have gonein there.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, we would have gone in there, yeah, but it was
too late.
It was too late, it was closed.
Yeah, she's like ah, she goes.
Why don't you guys come back?
You know they'll be here allweekend she gave us passes Yep,
yep.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
And we didn't go, we didn't go, anyway, but that's
how you meet people.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
You just got to be friendly.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Whoever you are, I want to be you for a day.
Well, no, you don't.
No Few do.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Anyway, all right, that brings us to the end of
this one.
We're going over to video Guys.
As always, thanks for joiningus and, you know, be good.
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