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May 27, 2025 • 25 mins

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What happens when doing your job correctly gets you arrested? Our discussion dives into the shocking case of a lifeguard who saved a drowning 5-year-old child in 2017, only to be arrested and charged with "reckless endangerment" when the ungrateful parents called the police, claiming he should have acted faster.

This mind-boggling situation forces us to confront some uncomfortable questions about parental responsibility, our broken justice system, and what society owes to those who save lives. Where were these parents while their non-swimming 5-year-old was drowning for nearly five minutes? Why did Connecticut's courts allow this case to proceed instead of dismissing it? And why did the lifeguard end up with two years of probation despite successfully saving a child's life?

The lifeguard's ordeal exemplifies a troubling aspect of American justice: "the process is the punishment." Even when innocent, being caught in the machinery of the legal system means financial strain, reputation damage, and profound stress. We explore how the presumption of innocence has gradually eroded in practice, leaving citizens vulnerable to a system that seems designed to process cases rather than deliver justice. Our passionate discussion covers everything from proper police interactions to knowing your rights as a citizen when confronted by authorities. This episode serves as both a warning about how quickly good deeds can be punished and a reminder that in matters of child safety, nothing replaces attentive parental supervision.

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Speaker 2 (00:12):
hey, everybody, welcome to sake to me hey,
everybody, welcome back to saketo me, where we connect people
to people, even if it meansyou're almost gonna drown.
So we got a story today.
I'm here with kat, hey, hey,and man, oh man, this one's
gonna go sideways because we gota lot to talk about, yeah, and

(00:33):
we're starting with a story thatwas from 2017, correct, but
ties into everything now, right,right, right.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
So start us off okay, so I'm, I'm flipping through,
you know, facebook, tiktok,whatever you want to talk, it's
a boring day.
I came across this Instagrampost from 2017 where a lifeguard
I want to tell you this rightnow saved a child who was five
years old, who had drowned in anew Canaan pool.

(01:00):
He saved his life.
He saved his life, okay, savedhis life.
Pool.
He saved his life.
Saved his life, okay, saved hislife.
And it turned around within ahot second that the parents
ended up calling the police onhim and he got arrested for
reckless endangerment and riskof injury to a child.
How did that happen?
Supposedly, he should have beenon it quicker than it took him

(01:22):
to find the child in the pool,and I was flabbergasted.
I just felt like I needed to.
Just what the hell?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
isn't it?
Swim at your own risk I?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
I don't know about that.
It is, I guess, and there was alifeguard on duty.
Where were the parents.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Uh well, how old was the child?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
five now I was five years old.
Five, Five.
Now.
I'm sorry I've had children.
You have children.
I would never leave myfive-year-old child unattended
to have a lifeguard watch them.
I don't care who you are.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
One lifeguard.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
One lifeguard.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
At five years old.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
The child was five years old Now.
I'm sure there were otherpeople in the pool and he's in
charge of all the people in thepool.
There was, like other childrenin the pool.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Were the parents in the pool.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
That I don't know.
Per the article, it did not saythat the parents were in the
pool.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, I agree, but yeah, so he actually ended up
going to trial and he was put onsome kind of probation where he
couldn't lifeguard for the twoyears and it obviously has
traumatized this kid.
I mean, and the whole thing ishe saved the child?
Bottom line is he saved thechild and the parents are taking
it as a risk of injury to aminor.

(02:37):
I don't, I don't understandthat the parents are fucking
assholes well, it's obviously.
I mean I don't understand.
It is it's a simple fact that,come on, okay, maybe that they
didn't see you, he didn't seethe kid right away, he's
watching an entire pool of otherchildren and adults and but he

(02:57):
got to your child, saved yourchild, gave your child cpr,
saved the life of your child,who is now with you today, six
years later, seven years laterhow long it has been.
And back then you actually hadthe police called on him.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
This is a twofold story.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
First, why weren't you in the pool?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Right.
Why did you let your child goin the pool without you?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
You let one lifeguard advise your child they can't
swim at five years old.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Oh, yes, and left, right, what?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
are you retarded Right?
I mean, why weren't theyprosecuted, Right?
Where's that?

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Where's that that you're risking the injury of
your child, risk of injury to aminor, to your own child, for
letting your child, who can'tswim or swimming at five years
old, unattended they left thekid that couldn't swim in under
the supervision of somebody theydidn't know, right, and then
decided to turn around, sueright when the kid couldn't swim
, correct?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
or you don't care about your kid exactly, you're a
loser, right yeah, I was justtotally flabbergasted by the
whole thing you should have beenawful, awful the whole thing is
ugly.
It's ugly as hell.
Yeah, and it drew notice fromthe entire nation.
Yeah, for whatever reason.
And that poor kid I know thatpoor kid, the lifeguard, right,

(04:17):
right, right now, four minutesand 59 seconds, where the kid's
just sitting there flailing hisarms, I guess.
Yes, all right, pal, come on,what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well, according to the article and what was wrote
up, he was not doing anything tojeopardize his vision of the
pool.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
He wasn't texting, then how do you miss it?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, again, he wasn't texting, he wasn't
reading a newspaper or a book oranything.
His eyes were on the pool.
He was doing his normal laps,that's not true.
Around the pool.
Hold on, he was watching aroundthe pool and he may have missed
the child for one of the laps.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Then he wasn't doing his job.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, he was doing his job.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Not if he missed the child Johnny.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Well, he got the child though.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
After he figured it out finally, four minutes later.
Okay, yes, yes, and I willagree with you.
He pulled the kid out, savedhim Right.
Kid's alive because of that.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Correct, all right.
I mean, I don't know what theminutes of time have anything to
do with anything.
Honestly, if you're in theocean, brain damage Well, yeah,
but he was still flailing,though he wasn't like floating
yet he was still flailing aroundand then he started.
I guess he was just starting towhatever.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Time out.
You can't see a kid flailing.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Well, that could be playing to.
I mean, I don't know, Listen, Iwould never be a lifeguard.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Again, You're going to go back 10 other kids in the
pool.
That's what the article saidAre their parents with the 10
other kids?
I don't know.
I don't know either Right, butif they were, where were these
parents Right?
And how the hell do you suewhen you leave your kid in care
of somebody else, right, butthen he saves the kid's life,
right?
Who do you think you are, Iknow?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well, and again does it come down to the fact that it
took too long for him to get tohim, which I think what the
parents concerned was, that ittook them too long to get to
their child in the pool.
I mean, I guess by the time yousaw.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
That's like telling a teacher fix my retarded kid.
They can't.
Well, I mean, you put the kidin school.
Teacher can't fix it.
No, I know you put your kid inthe pool, Right, the lifeguards
save them, right.
And now you want to turn aroundand sue, right, selfish as fuck
.
All right.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Selfish, right, stupid, okay.
So even in this scenario, ifyou're swimming in the ocean,
the lifeguards got a whole oceanto look at and they finally see
you.
It's going to take them time toget to you, so it's not like
it's like whole bunch of peoplein the ocean.
I mean the pool is smaller.
I guess I would have to findthe dimensions, I think I would.
The pool was, but, um, I meanhe was doing his job.

(06:48):
He was supposedly witnesses,say.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
He was doing his laps doing his job and he just
missed this one child and whendid realize it, jumped in and
got him my experience when I wastrying to get my son to learn
how to swim and he was five orsix, whatever, yep it, yep, it
was at the local YMCA, mm-hmm,right.
And so we went there and wecouldn't be in the pool area.
Okay, because there were toomany people Right and the area

(07:12):
wasn't big enough.
Okay, but there was anobservation deck, right, right,
yep, and you had accessimmediately.
Right, right.
Where the hell are these people?
Right, five minutes?
Where are you?

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Right, where are you?
That's the point we're tryingto say Exactly.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Exactly.
So how the hell do you have theaudacity?

Speaker 3 (07:33):
to sue.
That's my point.
And this kid now had to go toprobation by the way.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
You go to a park, you play baseball, you play
softball, you escape.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
At your own risk.
Thank you very much.
That's exactly what I was justgoing to say.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
They put it up there and you know what you're doing
when they send the kid in there,right, and it's your loss
because you fucked up, not thelifeguard, right?
He didn't do anything.
He didn't drown the kid, no.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Listen, I think being a lifeguard I give kudos to
right now.
It's a stressful job.
You want to do that?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
that's great that's a lot of a lot of responsibility
and he did it.
He did his job well, he savedthe kid, he saved the kid, he
saved the kid exactly and he gottwo years probation.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yes, and and a felony .
Yeah, they erased it, but stillthat's messed up.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
But that brings us into the next topic, which is,
uh, the connecticut judicialsystem.
Yep, because it's messed up.
It is messed up yeah, it'ssomething ugly.
It's ugly, it's stupid, it'sugly and it's in cahoots.
Yeah, well, there's a lot ofshit working against everybody.
All political.
It is political, fucking dumb.

(08:42):
Anyway, keep going.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, no, that's, I was just it.
Just I was really upsetting.
But I want to also say that,too, there was something that
the I guess LifeguardAssociation said that they've
never, ever, ever had anythinglike this happen ever in the
whole lifetime of lifeguarding,that parents actually sued a
lifeguard for saving theirchild's life.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
That's the craziest part.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Absolutely crazy.
If the kid died, I canunderstand.
Hands down, you got a lawsuitRight.
The dude pulled the kid out ofthe water.
Yeah, that you're not watchingRight Right or paying attention
to, yep, you don't even knowyour kid's drowning Right, right
, right.
He pulls him out Right, reviveshim Right, and then you turn
around and you sue Right, andthis kid gets hemmed up.

(09:28):
Yep, wow, people suck, peoplesuck ass.

(09:50):
And this is one of those thingswhere I'm gonna go off again
because it blows my skirt up,pay that for free.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Oh yeah, it's obnoxious.
Why is it that anybody can makeany accusation against anyone
at this point?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
and you're hemmed up in court.
Yes, no matter what, whateverit is, no matter fucking what.
And then, oh, the punishment ispart of the process.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, for what Right, right, what did I do Right?
What'd you do Right?

Speaker 2 (10:04):
You didn't do shit.
No, right?
No, but it's part of thepunishment, it's part of the
process.
Yeah, why are you beingpunished, right, if?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
you didn't do anything, you shouldn't be
punished.
Yes, the parents, yeah, right,and their kids hammed up.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Something got to be done about this shit.
I know something has got to bedone because that ain't right.
No the whole thing is stupid,and now this was 2017 no, I get
it it was a while ago it was awhile ago.
It, just like I said, it came tomy attention but it's a story
that illustrates what the fuckis wrong, exactly, exactly.

(10:42):
I don't get this story at all.
I know I want to be against youright now and be like oh yeah,
right, the parents are the onesthat should be accused, right,
right, sent to jail.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Seriously.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Have their kid taken away by DCF.
Exactly See what it's like yousend your kid to swim Right
taken away by DCF.
Exactly See what it's like yousend your kid to swim.
You didn't pay attention to him.
You're probably out doing drugssomewhere and now here you are
coming back suing so you canhave more drug money.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Okay, stop.
I mean, we can't say that wedon't know what they were doing,
but they were obviouslywatching their child.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
They were not watching their child.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
That's what it comes down to, and you said it, right,
for whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Right, it probably wasn't drugs, I don't know.
No, I don't know.
I don't know these people, butthey were not watching their
child.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Like I said, my kid went to the YMCA, yeah, learned.
There was an observation deck,mm-hmm yeah, and you had
two-second access to the pool,yeah, so if something went wrong
and nobody's watching, you'rewatching your kid, right, you
have to watch your child.
Where the fuck were they?
For five minutes you left it ona lifeguard One, lifeguard ten

(11:50):
people, mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Well, ten children.
There was other people in thepool.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
There were other adults in the pool, yes, so
these other adults didn't seethis kid flailing.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Don't get me started.
This is horse shit.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Horse shit, yeah.
So that was what I was veryupset about that today.
So I just think the systemsucks.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
The system is fucking awful.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
And here's a bigger picture too.
The fact that the parentscalled the police on him and
they actually had him go totrial makes it seem like what is
going on with the system Toeven put this child on trial for
saving a child.
What is going on in the system?

(12:38):
We can't trust that either.
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Somebody saved a life Right and you got punished for
it and you're on trial.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Think about it.
Just let that sink in for aminute.
Yeah, let's give you a hotsecond people.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Okay, that's what I think of the justice system.
I can't believe you just didthat.
It's nuts and the justicesystem it's nuts, and obviously
we've seen it.
Yeah, right, oh yeah, and it'sabsurd.
It is a money making machineand that is it.
Yeah, there is no right orwrong.
There are no if answer buts,and this is getting fucking

(13:16):
crazy yep yeah, and it's nutsand I'll get into it more and
more as we go along right, let'sjust see what happens.
Yeah, I don't want to burymyself before I get it but god
damn it.
Yeah, it's nuts.
Yeah, I know how, how do youham up this kid, and that's why
we talked about port noli, ohyeah, uh, like two weeks ago or

(13:37):
last week or whatever, yeah, andsaid that that's what you need
to do right and those peoplebacked out.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, what a bunch of freaks, yeah it was a great
learning lesson, though, but thestate of connecticut.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
The judicial system here is absolutely stupid.
Yeah, and that hold on thisright here.
I'll put it up on the website.
Justice delayed InConnecticut's criminal courts.
The process is part of thepunishment.
Punishment for what?
For what?

(14:10):
What'd you do?
Yeah, so it's no longerinnocent until proven guilty.
It's guilty until proveninnocent.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
And that's the way this shit's going.
That's exactly how it's going,and it's ugly.
It's guilty until proveninnocent.
Yeah, and that's the way thisshit's going.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
That's exactly how it's going.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
And it's ugly.
It's ugly.
Yep, because it's just a bigcog that just wants to churn out
money.
Yep For everything.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
And they just keep doing it, mm-hmm, for whatever
reason they want, right, and howdo you fight it?

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, that fight it.
Yeah, that's why your moneygoes.
Let me tell you you get brokethe only way.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
And that's the sad part.
Yeah, it's a very sad part,because there are people in it
yeah.
That haven't done a thing,right, right and they can't get
out of it.
Right and they're stuck there.
It's stupid, yep, andsomebody's got to fight back
against it at some point, right.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Agree.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
This is horrible.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
It is horrible.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
It is a horrible, horrible thing and I have a
couple of attorney friends thatsay I don't want to be an
attorney anymore.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I can't blame them.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I don't want to be an attorney, I want out an
attorney.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
I went out.
I can't.
This sucks.
I don't know who puts thesejudges on it that makes these
decisions, or attorneys, or thewhole system.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I don't get it it trickles down right to the
police first of all.
Oh yeah and even lower thanthat but the police can do
whatever they want, and thenyou're screwed.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
I mean there's still time out.
I'm going to say there arestill good cops out there, and
there's there's.
There are the bad cops, so youcan't.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
There are very few left.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Put them in a pool.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
The days of getting pulled over that mean like let
me drive you home.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Oh yeah, that's long.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Leave your car here, let me drive you home.
Let's not hand me up.
Right, those are gone.
Yeah, now you get all theselittle pricks Right out of the
academy.
Couldn't make the football team, got bullied.
Now they're police with a badgeand a gun, like I can do
whatever I want.
No, you fucking can't.
It's so true.
You don't own me, bro.

(16:00):
It's so true.
You actually are supposed toserve me.
Right, right, right.
You're supposed to do thingsfor me, not against me, right?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
So let's get this right yeah, If you're a police
officer don't be a dick.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
So true, they all are .
And here we are.
And then you get hemmed up.
All of a sudden you're in thecourt system and forget it.
You're there forever.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Well, too.
Plus, if you get pulled overand you make a scene or whatever
, you get arrested for somethingand you make a scene, you now
are labeled do not answer policeofficers ever right, do not
answer any police officer, everright.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Don't roll on your window, crack it a little bit,
do not roll it down, do not openyour door, do not do anything.
Show your license, show yourregistration, ask them for their
badge number, ask them fortheir name and record it yeah
record it right, because thenthey can't lose the footage,
correct?
They can't?
Oh, we don't have it right.

(16:56):
Well, if you don't have it,then you just screwed your own
case right.
Right, I should be able to walkyeah right, absolutely, and it's
disgusting the way things aregoing and cameras are the worst
thing that ever happened.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Oh gotcha.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
AI is going to be the next worst thing, and I love it
.
Yeah, I know, right, right, youcan put anyone anywhere.
Yep, and you can screw theperson's life up forever,
forever, yep, forever.
If you want to be a pretentiousprick, screw somebody's life up
.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, make them video .

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Things are going to hell in a handbasket.
And now I feel like I'm mygrandparents by saying that,
because it's nuts, it's fuckingnuts.
Everything is insane, oh yeah,everything is insane.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
It is.
It's like what the hell?
It's a sad place right now.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
The first.
You have the right to remainsilent.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, take full advantage of that.
One people Take full advantageof that.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yep.
Don't open the doors, don'topen windows, don't unlock doors
, don't do anything for thepolice.
They work for you.
You don't work for them Exactly.
Remember that there's severalservants Right.
They're like postmen.
Postmen deliver the mail.
Yep, they drop packages on yourdoor.
They don't open it up and say,hey, I gotta come in, warrants,

(18:14):
let somebody come in and justgrab you out of the house.
If they can, they have to havea search warrant?
Yeah, to get in your house,right as soon as you open that
door, you give them accessexactly don't do it, people
don't do it.
Don't do it.
People Don't do it, don't do it.
Know your rights.
Yes, Look them up.
Right, and it's insane how muchright you have that they tell

(18:35):
you you don't Right and youbelieve it's insane.
Yep, I got ripped off thetoilet.
I did.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Because you guys opened the door.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Fuck, I'm taking a shit.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Taking a shit, Taking a shit people Like you're
ripped off the toilet Nude.
At least there was one policeofficer that was like all right,
I'll let you finish.
The other ones are like no, getthe fuck out of here now Like
I'm not done.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
I haven't even wiped.
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Seriously, that happened.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
You know.
Yes, we know.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
But these people are suing.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah Well, are suing.
Yeah well, they did.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
And then, let's get into the towns, because most
towns hire a head lifeguard okay, correct, yep, and they pay
that lifeguard a handsome amountof money and they don't do
anything.
That head lifeguard never seesa body of water pool, ocean,
river stream really so what'shis job exactly then?

(19:29):
He just puts other lifeguardsin place to be there.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Oh, can I get that job?
It sounds like a great job, Iwould love it, I don't have to
go in the water.
I don't have to save anybody.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I would love it.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Here's your schedule.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Sir, you can put that in a computer in three seconds.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
No shit.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Have your whole schedule made.
Okay, so that's another thing,ten grand.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
So is this that guy's problem?
Now, because of this kid Dothey go and sue that guy now too
.
How does that work?
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I mean again.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
This is an old story.
It's not happening now people.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
But I'm wondering I don't know why the hiring?
Why weren't there twolifeguards?
If there's this many people inthe pool, there should have been
this many people Correct Onduty as a lifeguard Right.
It's this guy's fault, mm-hmm.
If there were two people there,this guy might have found the
kid drowning?

Speaker 3 (20:21):
That might be an issue too.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, and then you just get into the finger
pointing game.
Oh yeah, it's just stupid.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Again, it just came like I said.
I came across this, I was justreally upset about it and, uh,
it's just saddened to this.
Society is just the way it is,it really is, and just so the
parents just don't care anymore.
Watch your child, for christ'ssakes, that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Watch your child forget the finger point no, it's
your fault.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
it's your fault.
It's your fault, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
No, hey, addicts is that what it was?
Whatever the last name was,take them fingers, point your
thumbs up in the air and thenpoint them at yourself, because
it's your fucking fault.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Oh yeah, it's your fault.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Your kid almost died.
Yeah, it's true, you know kidinto, you know your kid can't
swim and you're relying onsomebody else to make sure.
Yeah listen here, pal.
Where the fuck were you?
Yeah, right, I'm sorry, I'm notsaying be a helicopter, and I
rely on a lot of people to do alot of things with my kid and
he's let's just old kid, yes,he's.
Everybody goes through this,but so right now I'm a little

(21:36):
aggravated one.
But I know either way, yeah he'sa wonderful kid don't get it
wrong good kid if I was nervousabout something or thought some
something was going to go wrongright I'd be right there
watching oh god.
In fact, even when I'm notconcerned'd be right there
watching oh God.
And in fact, even when I'm notconcerned, I'm right there
watching.
Yes.
Not as a helicopter, no Right,but I want to see him achieve

(21:56):
stuff.
Mm-hmm Right, where are you?
Obviously, you two do not wantto see your five-year-old child
achieve anything in life.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Well, I mean, even when my kids were little, I had
them with the buoys.
Those little um blow up thingson their arms.
They have life jackets on allthat.
I watched them.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
I didn't want to go far in the oceans or anything
I'm gonna be honest, and beforeI say anything too, uh, I don't
know outlandish oh boy, Ibelieve that they were indian.
They were like oh uh okay, ohthe parents you mean the parents
, okay the the last name, andthen it was uh ahmed khanak and

(22:36):
maha shazad ashraf.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Okay, was the mother yeah, that sounds a little
indian to me so they were atleast foreign.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yes, by name.
I don't know these people yeahyeah, yep, they could have been
raised here.
I don't know these people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they couldhave been raised here.
I don't know, right, and maybethey have different cultures.
Yeah, maybe they're like ohyeah, throw the kid in.
If he swims, he swims, if hedoesn't, he doesn't.
Good point, I don't know whattheir culture's like.
Good point, correct, so I don'twant to culture.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Okay, oh well, give them that Fine.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Here in America.
That's fucking stupid.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
You're here now, so this is what happens when you're
in America.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
In India or Pakistan or whatever, and again, I don't
know identifying or whatever.
If that's what you do, cool,good for you, right, all right,
right, don't sue.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
No, you can't sue now .

Speaker 2 (23:31):
You good for you, right, all right, right, don't
sue now you can't sue now ifthat's what you do, right, don't
sue, right?
That's not what we do here,right?
We pay attention to the kidsexactly.
It's not our fault.
You kid that almost died, it'syours, yeah it all comes back to
the parents it always comesback to the parents and your kid
is only going to be as good asyou are.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
So be good, yes, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yes so having said that.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Having said that, we're at the end of the show.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Look at that.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Thank you for joining me here, Kat no problem Time
flies around fun.
It always flies.
I can't believe it's alreadybeen 25 minutes and 10 seconds.
Woo, no, we're 25 minutes and10 seconds.
No, we're going to edit thisout, so that won't be it, but
either way, we're at the end and, as always, guys, be good.

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