March 25, 2025 • 27 mins
We dive into the great DIY vs professional contractor debate, sharing real-life stories and insider knowledge on why trying to save money might actually cost you more in the long run.
• DIY horror stories including improperly installed insulation and electrical mishaps that resulted in injury
• Why hiring a professional often costs less when you factor in your time and potential mistakes
• How reputable contractors price jobs with cushions to avoid asking for more money later
• The truth about home improvement TV shows and their unrealistic timelines
• Red flags to watch for when hiring contractors, including those who pressure for immediate decisions
• Tips for finding reliable professionals through local lumber yards rather than big box stores
• Why major plumbing, electrical work, and projects requiring permits should always be handled by pros
• Real-world examples of predatory pricing, especially targeting elderly homeowners
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, everybody, welcome to.
Saki Tumi, saki Tumi.
Hey everybody, it's Ditto.
Welcome back to Saki Toomey,where we connect people to
people, and you can either do ityourself or hire a pro.
I'm here with Keebler.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Hey everybody, how's it going here?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
we are today ready to talk about doing it yourself,
or hiring a pro.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Oh my god, yeah.
Well, we're going to have somestories here.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh, we got a lot of stories and this is right up my
alley.
This is your like.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
this is right up, like you said, not to repeat
your alley, but this is yourexpertise, this is what I do.
This is what you do for aliving.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Wait till you hear what I have to say.
Oh boy, oh man, it's going tobe good, you're going to open up
some eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Oh yeah.
So I got two actually.
Oh boy, first one's not thatbad, you didn't learn your
lesson.
But I didn't learn my lesson.
I tried something again afterthis, but the first one was I
decided I was going to insulatemy own attic.
So I got myself a bunch ofinsulation, went up in the attic
and started laying it out.
So my brother-in-law comes over, who is a heating and air
(01:23):
conditioning guy, and he's likeoh, what have you been doing all
day?
Before you finish the story,let me have a guess.
Yep, all right.
So I said I've been insulatingmy attic.
He goes oh, let me take a look.
I go up there, him, and I go upinto the attic and he's like
hey, dumbass, you put it inupside down.
I had the whole attic with thewrong side facing up, which I
(01:46):
had no idea.
So, and it took me like it waslike I mean, that's my first
story, it didn't really cost meanything but time and that right
there, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, you did it wrong.
Yes, I did it wrong, butgenerally there isn't any
backing in the attics anyway, oh, okay, so it didn't really
matter.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It didn't, but isn't any backing in the attics anyway
?
Oh okay, so it didn't reallymatter, it didn't.
But of course I ripped it allout and reset it down and did it
.
So instead of a like a two-hourjob, it took me like four and a
half five hours.
Second story this is and forall you people at home pay
attention here, because thisone's not good oh boy, decided
we, decided I'm going to redo mybasement and had a sheetrock
(02:26):
ceiling.
So instead of taking a hammerand ripping it down, I decided
to take a sawzall, stick thesawzall up there.
I'm on my ladder.
Of course I didn't turn off theelectric.
The electricity Cut through awire and got zapped and blew
myself about literally five to10 feet back off on my ass.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Really yeah, Was that out of freight?
Because normally what?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
line did you hit?
I don't know what I hit, totell you the truth, but I did
have to get an electrician andit got me good enough where it
just jolted me backwards.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
All right, then it wasn't a 110.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
No, it wasn't a 110.
You must have hit the 220.
I probably hit the big one,yeah, and so there was an elf
flying backwards, and you get tosee me, it's like you've fallen
out of the treehouse yeah.
Russ, did you build?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
that yourself?
Is that where it was?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I called the guy for that, but that's a true story.
Make sure you turn off theelectricity before you try to do
something like that, or that'swhy you call.
That's why you call the guy NowI do have an electrician.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So you're going to take the lead on this episode,
kind of Okay, only because I'mgoing to just retort with what I
know and what has happened andall that stuff, all right.
So I mean, otherwise it's justgoing to sound like I'm kind of
bragging about myself, which I'mdoing anyway, but yeah Well,
you are the prophet.
When you're a prophet, it justcomes out like that I literally
don't think I'm better thananybody, I just am.
(03:53):
You just are.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You're good at what you do.
Well, I try to be.
You know it's up for debate,but you are a good, all around
righteous dude.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So you've done some research on this.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I've done a little bit of research.
Yeah, I know that the industrymakes a lot of money, like you,
Hang on one second.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I'm going to start us off and then we'll go with you.
Okay, you got it.
What is the difference betweendoing it yourself?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
and hiring a pro.
What's the difference?
Yeah, Well, to me, well, Ithink it's.
You can.
If you know exactly what you'redoing, you can save money, you
know what I mean.
That's up for debate.
But go ahead.
But if you, if you want thingslike for me, if I want them done
right one time, I'm more apt tocall a guy, I don't mind
spending the money, you know.
(04:41):
But if you have, I don't mindspending the money, you know.
But if you have decent guys, Imean, don't just go with your
first guy you call either.
I'd say, shop around, you know.
Oh, you have to, and make surelike they're well-established,
like they have a good reputationin town or wherever you're at,
or in the state you know when doyou go to find that I don't
know?
(05:07):
Not a Home Depot, but theclosest lumber yard to you.
Yep, go there and ask themreally.
Yes, so they always.
They would have a list ofpeople on oh, absolutely kind of
different, like electricianplumbers, stuff like that, you
know, contractors basicallypainters.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I mean, they'll at least have a list of general
contractors that come in already.
Have those people gotcha so?
And they'll give you three ofthem at minimum you can, they'll
.
They'll give you three of themat minimum.
You can ask for 10, they'llgive you 10 of them Really, but
they will give you three of themat least that are really good
where you live, right, theyalready know that and no one
knows to go to their locallumber yard to find that out.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
That's awesome.
I never knew that.
I have to totally agree withyou on that.
I've done that a few times andyou get what you pay for.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
You get what you pay for Absolutely.
And a little piece of advice Ipersonally price every job high.
Okay, so I never have to goback and ask the people for more
money.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Okay, so that's why you price my bathroom for the
price you did Right.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
That's why you priced my bathroom for the price you
did Right, awesome that way.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And I did most of the work.
Yeah, all of the work.
I just sat there and told youwhat to do.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
That's not true, but I did most of the demo.
Yeah, but you told me what todo and it worked out.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
If I were to price a job for 10 grand Yep, I'm
assuming it's going to takeseven.
Oh, okay, that includes me,materials and everything, and I
have a three grand cushion,right In case something comes up
.
Right, there you go, and thenat the end I can be like listen,
it came out cheaper than Ithought it was going to.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
You did that for my mother I don't know if you
remember on her roof Always.
You priced it and I'm justgoing to throw because she has a
small ranch.
I think you priced her for like$6,000 and it cost like $4,500.
And you told her and she washappier than pigs and shit.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
That's how it works, and then you get repeat
customers after that.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Exactly Because you did the right thing.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So that's why you don't take the cheapest quote.
Oh, that's awesome.
You're probably better offtaking the highest one, because
that would most likely be mine.
Right, right, Right, BecauseI'm not trying to get that job.
I'm trying to.
If I get it, it's worth it foreverybody.
And it'll be more worth it atthe end because I will save you
money and we'll probably come inat what the lowest price was.
(07:15):
Oh, no kidding, but I'mcovering myself and you.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
That's a great way to do business.
That's how you're supposed todo business.
Never realized that.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, you're supposed to do business, never realize
that.
Yeah, so well, there's a lot.
So you're saying there's I'mgoing to try to put this slice
nicely there's a lot of crooksout there.
No, it's not that they're crooks, they're starving oh, they're
pricing it low to get the jobjob and they didn't actually got
to get through gotcha, andthat's why you don't take the
lowest one.
That guy is pricing the job toget it okay, and that's where
you're gonna problems and that'swhy you hear about all those
contractors that are so horrible.
Right right, like I had anightmare experience.
You took the lowest price.
(07:51):
That's what you did, exactly,and you're giving us a bad name
now.
Wow, yep.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Go to your lumber yard Ask for who's the best.
Okay, because that guy doesn'tneed the work, which means he's
good.
Gotcha.
Do you understand what I mean?
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
So basically, you get what you pay for.
I've only got a high schooleducation, but I'm understanding
this, yep.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And step number three don't believe what you see on
TV, because they're lying to you.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Oh yeah, I mean it's like court.
Yeah, court does not go like itdoes.
There are a ton of shows now.
I mean it's boomed, but Iremember going back and you and
I talked before the show startedabout what was like the one,
one of the first shows weremember, and it was this Old
House.
Those guys were good.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Which those guys were , I thought were very good.
They were good, they werehonest and they were.
And until, uh, bob vila leftand tried to become bob vila.
Right, they were honest.
They told you hey, we're inmonth six of this project.
Right now these new ones arelike oh, day 48.
Yeah, screw you.
You have 480 people doing thiswhich you don't show on tv,
right?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
now, is that what?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
happens.
Yes, okay, you've already donethis for the people that you
already preselected.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, we were talking about this and I started naming
off some shows and you werelike nope, garbage, nope, they
stink.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yep, they're not good .
Oh, that was a good one.
I mean, I mean Chip and Joannawere good.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, but they got out of it.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
People were buying their houses trying to get on
their show, knowing that if theycould, the house would be done
and be worth like four timesmore than it was, just because
Chip and Joanna did it Right,which is good for them, yeah,
but Chip and Joanna are like wedon't want this attached to us.
Oh, right, right, these peopleare just buying our houses to
sell next year, yeah, makingbuku dollars off of them.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
They were literally trying to do things for people.
I didn't realize that and thatkind of makes sense and it's.
I mean I don't know if theyhave any like no-sell clauses or
whatever, but I mean you knowwhat I mean, it didn't matter.
It didn't matter.
No, gotcha, you can have a will, it doesn't matter.
Yep, I mean, besides that, Imean some of the newer ones are
(10:10):
kind of like off the wall, likeyou said, they do these houses
in like three months, two months, and I didn't realize they had
that many people there.
Oh, you have to, and they onlyshow you like three or four guys
.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And that is another thing that puts a bad
connotation on contractors.
Right, people think it'ssupposed to take two months and
no, it's not how it works.
No, it's so false Right andthey're like well, why isn't it
done yet?
I was like because it takes sixto eight months for this
project.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I was like Like I told you thatup front, Exactly, and you
think it's two months, and whyisn't it done?
(10:41):
How come we're not here?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Well, you told me straight up on my bathroom it's
going to be like two months andit was basically six, seven
weeks.
You know, yeah, but we gotcaught, you've got to line all
those people up.
Well, you have to line them up,but we got caught with COVID as
well.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Supplies were like there's so many outstanding
variables that you can't reallyprepare for.
That will delay progress, right?
It's not like I don't want mymoney.
So it's not like I'm here forno reason, right, I just want to
string you along.
Yeah, it's because I there'sstuff.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I can't do so, being a contractor yourself, is there
anything that you don't do onyour own that you call a guy?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Oh yeah, really, I don't have the electricals.
I don't do any of themechanicals myself.
Okay, I sub those out to peoplethat have the proper licenses
for that.
I'm a general contractor Right,so I come.
I'm like Home Depot, basicallycontractor Right, so I come.
I'm like Home Depot, basicallyyou hire me, I've got everything
I need.
Okay, Do you know what I mean?
Yep, yep, you don't have tohire anybody else, I'll take
care of it.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I take care of all of it.
Well, that's how, yeah, that'show you rolled, and you actually
the plumber that you used Istill use him today, miranda and
that's how they get businessRight.
And the guys that you did withthe tile, those guys were
awesome.
They're hard to get.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Are they really?
I'm glad I have them, butthey're hard to get, for me too.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Really yes, they're that busy.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
They are absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well, they're fantastic.
You're right, the Donahues, theDonahue brothers.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yep, if you get a chance and you're in the area,
call the Donahues.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
In Central Connecticut.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yep, the plumber is awesome.
Oh, he's very good, and I useTommy Bussett for electrical.
That's my guy, jerry Alderay isalso awesome.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
That's another one of my guys, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
So there's.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I mean there's a lot of good people.
They're a little bit older now,so it's they do certain work
for certain people, Yep, butthose are two very good
electricians, absolutely, and soI have to do that Right.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Otherwise, oh, that's , yeah, okay, I get it.
Yeah, and you're not evenreally paying the DIY hire.
A pro debate about what'sbetter, doing it yourself does
not save you any money.
It doesn't.
It doesn't and it could.
It ends up it could cost youmore, costing you more.
Right, you have to figure inyour own time.
So let's just say for S's andG's, my hourly rate is 50 bucks.
(13:05):
Okay, yeah, what's yours worth?
To do it yourself?
Oh, you could be out theremaking money at your job, at my
job.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Instead, I'm taking the day off To do this Right.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
It might take you eight hours.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
It'll take me two, exactly Because I already know
how to do it and what I'm doing,right.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
So your eight hours is now $400 and I only charge
you a hundred bucks, then if Ido something wrong, like now, it
costs you even more.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Cut, cut the wires or put in the insulation upside
down or whatever I'm doing wrong90% of the time, the materials
are going to be the materials,right?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's what it's going to cost you.
Yep, that's what it's going tocost me.
There's no change in that.
So now it's your time versus mytime is what is the factor
Right?
The last variable is like youtake eight hours, I take two.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, here's another thing that I used to do.
I used to do this on my own.
A lot was oil changes for yourcar.
But then I found I mean, yeah,you could save a lot of money
there because I think the pricehas gone up quite a bit for oil
changes, but there's nowhere toget rid of the oil.
That's the problem I had.
You know, there is, there is aplace.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, I can get rid of it for you, man.
You do everything I do, andthat's why you hire me.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
That's how.
That's how it works.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yes, that's how.
That's how it works.
Yes, ditto for hire, justcalled ditto the profit.
I love it because.
And so yeah, there aremechanics that run their shops.
Yep, the furnaces burn that oil, gotcha yep so you take it
that's why they well, that's notwhy they do it, but that's part
of their perk for doing itright because they have a place
to get rid of.
They can just dump it in thefurnace and go yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
In the tank.
They never realized that, yep,but yeah, I used to get rid of
it when my dad was aroundbecause he worked in a machine
shop.
So he had access to the oilbins at his shop and got rid of
it.
So it was a lot easier to dooil changes back then, you know,
yeah.
You know, there's still placesto get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I didn't realize, oh yeah there is, but you have to
pay for that too.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
So that's an extra cost.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yes, yeah, Now, at this point I mean what do you
think these places do when?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
they can't burn all of it.
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's why.
And then they just refine itand sell it back to you.
Gotcha, it's a racket.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
They clean it, refine it, sell it back to you.
There's money to be made outthere.
So one thing I do a lot on myown and I know you, I think it I
don't know if it's your companyor not assemblycom, some
Assembly, some Assembly.
Yep, I do put a lot of myfurniture together, but I know
you can also pay for that, whichwould save a lot of that's, a
lot of headaches, and I meanI've done script a lot of shit
(15:49):
like screws and whatever I mean,cause you're just not used to
working with a drill, which youare, you know, or professionals
are, yep.
And then you got to go back tothe store get more stuff.
It's like, ah, caramba.
Then you got to hear MrsKeebler.
I mean sorry, you know, hearyour wife.
(16:10):
Somebody's like sorry, mrsKeebler, she's going to be mad
at you.
Ah crap, I always get myself introuble.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
We all do.
We're not smart people, men introuble, we all, we all do we're
not smart people, men.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
No, we're dumb pretty much, but anyway, uh.
So here's another thing that II have a hard time with.
You ever watch propertybrothers, yeah.
And you see, you know there's alady's profession is like a dog
manager and her budget's like725 000 for her rem.
And then you think about itwhat the hell have I done wrong
(16:44):
with my life?
You know, you got a dog managerhere with that much money to
spend and it's like what am Idoing wrong?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
That's the one part a lot of people don't take into
account.
Yeah, the budgets on thoseshows are so much higher than
what you've got.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm trying to think because that one is it because
they're in better areas?
I know a couple of those showsare in California, where the
money's higher, or Toronto.
I know one of them's based inToronto.
I think that's Love it or Listit maybe with the houses what
they sell.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
It does have a lot to do with where you are.
That's why, chip and Joanna,the houses are like $110,000.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
That's not like that here.
Well, no, that's like uh.
Aaron and ben napier fromhometown.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
They're down in alabama, mississippi we're
giving a lot of shout outs toshows I don't like all right,
let's give a new shout out.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
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Give them a holler if you needanything done.
You know, with your furnace.
Heating and air conditioningcompany HVAC Southington,
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anything done.
You know with your furnace, airconditioning, anything.
They're fantastic, fantastic,true Comfort.
Eric, look for Eric Yep.
Just call and ask for Eric Yepand they are up and coming.
Yep, just started a coupleweeks ago.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
So, right now they're looking for business, they go.
So right now they're lookingfor business, they are Right.
So if you call them now, you'regoing to get a solid price,
absolutely Because they want tobuild a customer base.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Absolutely so.
Give them a shout.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
If I had the number I'd tell you.
I wish I did too.
I don't have it offhand, butI'm sure there's a website, yep,
and I will see if.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I can put it up on our website too.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
That'd be great.
You can go to sakitumacom andlook it up.
I'll get it up there as soon asI can.
True comfort Southington.
Look them up, give them somebusiness.
Same with some assembly forcrying out loud.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, what about some assembly?
I know that guy, that guy'sawesome, he's our sponsor.
That guy's hungry.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
So quick reference also into making a decision
about the DIY.
Yeah reference also into makinga decision about the diy.
Yeah, if it, if it has toinclude major plumbing, major
electrical yep or a permit, justcall, just call some,
especially with a permit,absolutely call somebody.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I know you saved my ass.
Uh, back at my, my new househere.
Um, I was thinking about havingsomebody come put a deck on and
you're like, keebler, you can'tdo it here because you have
septic.
That's too close and I didn'tknow the guidelines, and you
straightened that out for me,which was awesome.
So what I did was a patio andyou gave me a guy for that, yep,
(19:14):
and it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
That's why I have the red cape upstairs in my closet
With the S on it Yep, whenever.
I have to save a problem on it.
Yep, whenever I have to save aproblem, love it.
You know, t-bot, we went over.
I used to work for her brother.
Oh okay, you know how manytimes I had to pull T-Bot out of
the fire?
No kidding.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
She's in the other room too.
She's probably getting pissedright now.
Ears are burning.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, and that's it.
That's why a professional is sovaluable, right, and that's
what you're paying for, so youdon't run into mistakes like
that.
But you can get professionalsthat are not professional.
Well, true, and those guys areon Angie's list, really, yes.
Or if you get a Home Depot lead, home Depot tells you who to
(19:59):
hire.
Yep, be careful.
The only thing I recommend HomeDepot for is carpet, oh, home.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Depot tells you who to hire.
Yep, be careful.
The only thing I recommend HomeDepot for is carpet.
Oh, they're good at carpet?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yes, they are.
Oh, I don't know why.
I've always had good luck withHome Depot and carpets.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
And now that you mention this, it's funny because
it's bringing another storyback with Mrs Keebler.
When we first started datingthat house she had up in
Torrington which you did theroof for.
She had a plumbing problem.
She had like a willow tree inthe front and it was clogging up
the drain and stuff.
She had a guy come out and shewanted to get a couple of quotes
and this guy gave her a pricebut he says I can give you
(20:34):
$1,500 off.
She was like hemming and hawing.
He says I can give you $1,500off if you go with me right now.
She's kind of pushing her.
If you know my wife, you don'tpush her.
No, you don't.
Then come to find out shedidn't go with the guy because
(20:54):
the guy was pissing her off.
She checked with the BetterBusiness Bureau.
The guy was pissing her off andshe checked with the better
business bureau and the guy waslike blacklisted he was.
It was like no, don't doanything with this, this plumber
, because he just sucks yeah youknow, and her intuition was
spot on, which, which is goodit's like even anderson.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
They have the anderson renewal.
Yes, I don't know if it's goodor bad, but those are the.
I'm only using that as anexample and I'm not saying
anything bad about them.
Okay, but salesmen like that,those are the ones you don't
want to hire, right?
I don't know if Anderson isgood or bad at their renewal
stuff, but when they go to thehouse they're looking for
basically an older person, anelderly person.
(21:34):
I'm going to tell you anotherstory elderly person.
I'm going to tell you anotherstory, yeah, who was worried
about their roof or theirwindows or their siding?
And they're going to tell themstories.
Right, how, this is I?
I went and did a roof for a guy.
Yep, he was elderly, he, infact, he just passed away.
So, oh, rip, condolences, yeah,yeah, uh.
And the guy, and he like I justgot a price for $18,000.
(21:59):
Wow, I was like, seriously,$18,000?
Yep, you have a raised ranch.
Yep, wow, 18 grand for a roof.
I did it for about 5,500 bucks.
He was happier than a pig insquat.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Absolutely.
The story I got is the one youdid for my mom Same thing.
She got a quote it's like$13,000.
And they're like, oh, if youcan go right now, you know, put
this much amount down.
And I can't remember thecompany and I would say their
name on the air because it wasjust well.
I would Good thing Put goodthings out there, not bad things
(22:32):
.
Okay, but anyway, long storyshort, she didn't go with them
and you did it $7,000, $8,000cheaper and great job.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Thank you, You're welcome.
I appreciate that.
But yes, that's what they do.
They kind of prey on theelderly and they want you to
sign it right there, Right right, Because you don't know how
much longer your roof is goingto last.
Oh yeah, and nobody stops andthinks for a minute.
Wait a minute.
It's been there for 20 years.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
But what is the life expectancy for a roof?
20 to 25?
Roughly.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
They say 25 to 30 years is every time you should
redo it.
Gotcha Right, and so I don'tknow if that's necessarily true,
because I've gone in and doneroofs that were 50 years old.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Really.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yes, so it's like it depends upon the batch of
shingles you get.
Yep on the batch of shinglesyou get Yep With uh.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Well, and what like the plywood?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
The weather.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
The weather, yeah Everything.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And there's.
I've gone to roofs wherethere's nails exposed and it's
not leaking.
Really, I'm like damn, At thatpoint you don't want to chance
it.
No, exactly, it's notnecessarily a dire emergency
because it's not leaking.
Right, because it's not leaking.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
But if you want to, here's whatit's going to cost.
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You know what I mean.
You don't have to sign with metoday.
Just remember.
I came here and said if it'snot leaking, what are you
worried about?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Right, that's definitely a red flag, somebody
that's pushing you and pushingyou and pushing you to go with
the deal right now.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
The other thing with roofing companies nobody gets on
the roof, Nobody goes up thereto check?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
No, you did, I do you go?
Not only did you go in the roofno, I don't, that's what I mean
but you went on the roof and inthe attic.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Correct, check both sides, yep, make sure there
isn't in fact anything leaking,because otherwise it's going to
cost more.
Absolutely, because I've got tofix sheetrock and insulation.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Plus, you can't see the plywood from outside,
correct?
I mean, you can feel it if it'sspongy, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
But you can see it more on the inside.
Yeah, if you've gotdiscoloration or whatever's
going on in there you know, andthey will come in there and tell
you that you're going to needplywood replaced, right, you
figure it in there, and thenthey don't have to change
anything, right so?
You paid for something younever got.
Exactly Crazy.
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It's the way they work which Ithink is scummy.
I agree, I agree, and there's alot of points in time in it's
like how greedy do you want tobe?
What's fair to everybody?
Right, I can make a coupleextra bucks Cool.
What do I need?
If I made an extra thousanddollars on a major project?
Great, I ripped them off.
(25:05):
Yep, I made a couple extrabucks.
I didn't think I was going tomake and everyone is happy,
everybody's happy.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
That's the way it goes.
That's business, because itFair is good.
Yes, I agree, dude, we are wayover.
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Are you kidding me?
Nope, I wouldn't kid you, god.
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I know, wait, you'll see it onvideo.
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Thank you.
Hey, everybody, welcome to.
Saki Tumi, saki Tumi.
Hey everybody, it's Ditto.
Welcome back to Saki Toomey,where we connect people to
people, and you can either do ityourself or hire a pro.
I'm here with Keebler.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Hey everybody, how's it going here?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
we are today ready to talk about doing it yourself,
or hiring a pro.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Oh my god, yeah.
Well, we're going to have somestories here.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh, we got a lot of stories and this is right up my
alley.
This is your like.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
this is right up, like you said, not to repeat
your alley, but this is yourexpertise, this is what I do.
This is what you do for aliving.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Wait till you hear what I have to say.
Oh boy, oh man, it's going tobe good, you're going to open up
some eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Oh yeah.
So I got two actually.
Oh boy, first one's not thatbad, you didn't learn your
lesson.
But I didn't learn my lesson.
I tried something again afterthis, but the first one was I
decided I was going to insulatemy own attic.
So I got myself a bunch ofinsulation, went up in the attic
and started laying it out.
So my brother-in-law comes over, who is a heating and air
(01:23):
conditioning guy, and he's likeoh, what have you been doing all
day?
Before you finish the story,let me have a guess.
Yep, all right.
So I said I've been insulatingmy attic.
He goes oh, let me take a look.
I go up there, him, and I go upinto the attic and he's like
hey, dumbass, you put it inupside down.
I had the whole attic with thewrong side facing up, which I
(01:46):
had no idea.
So, and it took me like it waslike I mean, that's my first
story, it didn't really cost meanything but time and that right
there, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, you did it wrong.
Yes, I did it wrong, butgenerally there isn't any
backing in the attics anyway, oh, okay, so it didn't really
matter.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It didn't, but isn't any backing in the attics anyway
?
Oh okay, so it didn't reallymatter, it didn't.
But of course I ripped it allout and reset it down and did it
.
So instead of a like a two-hourjob, it took me like four and a
half five hours.
Second story this is and forall you people at home pay
attention here, because thisone's not good oh boy, decided
we, decided I'm going to redo mybasement and had a sheetrock
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ceiling.
So instead of taking a hammerand ripping it down, I decided
to take a sawzall, stick thesawzall up there.
I'm on my ladder.
Of course I didn't turn off theelectric.
The electricity Cut through awire and got zapped and blew
myself about literally five to10 feet back off on my ass.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Really yeah, Was that out of freight?
Because normally what?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
line did you hit?
I don't know what I hit, totell you the truth, but I did
have to get an electrician andit got me good enough where it
just jolted me backwards.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
All right, then it wasn't a 110.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
No, it wasn't a 110.
You must have hit the 220.
I probably hit the big one,yeah, and so there was an elf
flying backwards, and you get tosee me, it's like you've fallen
out of the treehouse yeah.
Russ, did you build?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
that yourself?
Is that where it was?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I called the guy for that, but that's a true story.
Make sure you turn off theelectricity before you try to do
something like that, or that'swhy you call.
That's why you call the guy NowI do have an electrician.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So you're going to take the lead on this episode,
kind of Okay, only because I'mgoing to just retort with what I
know and what has happened andall that stuff, all right.
So I mean, otherwise it's justgoing to sound like I'm kind of
bragging about myself, which I'mdoing anyway, but yeah Well,
you are the prophet.
When you're a prophet, it justcomes out like that I literally
don't think I'm better thananybody, I just am.
(03:53):
You just are.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You're good at what you do.
Well, I try to be.
You know it's up for debate,but you are a good, all around
righteous dude.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So you've done some research on this.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I've done a little bit of research.
Yeah, I know that the industrymakes a lot of money, like you,
Hang on one second.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I'm going to start us off and then we'll go with you.
Okay, you got it.
What is the difference betweendoing it yourself?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
and hiring a pro.
What's the difference?
Yeah, Well, to me, well, Ithink it's.
You can.
If you know exactly what you'redoing, you can save money, you
know what I mean.
That's up for debate.
But go ahead.
But if you, if you want thingslike for me, if I want them done
right one time, I'm more apt tocall a guy, I don't mind
spending the money, you know.
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But if you have, I don't mindspending the money, you know.
But if you have decent guys, Imean, don't just go with your
first guy you call either.
I'd say, shop around, you know.
Oh, you have to, and make surelike they're well-established,
like they have a good reputationin town or wherever you're at,
or in the state you know when doyou go to find that I don't
know?
(05:07):
Not a Home Depot, but theclosest lumber yard to you.
Yep, go there and ask themreally.
Yes, so they always.
They would have a list ofpeople on oh, absolutely kind of
different, like electricianplumbers, stuff like that, you
know, contractors basicallypainters.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I mean, they'll at least have a list of general
contractors that come in already.
Have those people gotcha so?
And they'll give you three ofthem at minimum you can, they'll
.
They'll give you three of themat minimum.
You can ask for 10, they'llgive you 10 of them Really, but
they will give you three of themat least that are really good
where you live, right, theyalready know that and no one
knows to go to their locallumber yard to find that out.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
That's awesome.
I never knew that.
I have to totally agree withyou on that.
I've done that a few times andyou get what you pay for.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
You get what you pay for Absolutely.
And a little piece of advice Ipersonally price every job high.
Okay, so I never have to goback and ask the people for more
money.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Okay, so that's why you price my bathroom for the
price you did Right.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
That's why you priced my bathroom for the price you
did Right, awesome that way.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And I did most of the work.
Yeah, all of the work.
I just sat there and told youwhat to do.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
That's not true, but I did most of the demo.
Yeah, but you told me what todo and it worked out.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
If I were to price a job for 10 grand Yep, I'm
assuming it's going to takeseven.
Oh, okay, that includes me,materials and everything, and I
have a three grand cushion,right In case something comes up
.
Right, there you go, and thenat the end I can be like listen,
it came out cheaper than Ithought it was going to.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
You did that for my mother I don't know if you
remember on her roof Always.
You priced it and I'm justgoing to throw because she has a
small ranch.
I think you priced her for like$6,000 and it cost like $4,500.
And you told her and she washappier than pigs and shit.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
That's how it works, and then you get repeat
customers after that.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Exactly Because you did the right thing.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So that's why you don't take the cheapest quote.
Oh, that's awesome.
You're probably better offtaking the highest one, because
that would most likely be mine.
Right, right, Right, BecauseI'm not trying to get that job.
I'm trying to.
If I get it, it's worth it foreverybody.
And it'll be more worth it atthe end because I will save you
money and we'll probably come inat what the lowest price was.
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Oh, no kidding, but I'mcovering myself and you.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
That's a great way to do business.
That's how you're supposed todo business.
Never realized that.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, you're supposed to do business, never realize
that.
Yeah, so well, there's a lot.
So you're saying there's I'mgoing to try to put this slice
nicely there's a lot of crooksout there.
No, it's not that they're crooks, they're starving oh, they're
pricing it low to get the jobjob and they didn't actually got
to get through gotcha, andthat's why you don't take the
lowest one.
That guy is pricing the job toget it okay, and that's where
you're gonna problems and that'swhy you hear about all those
contractors that are so horrible.
Right right, like I had anightmare experience.
You took the lowest price.
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That's what you did, exactly,and you're giving us a bad name
now.
Wow, yep.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Go to your lumber yard Ask for who's the best.
Okay, because that guy doesn'tneed the work, which means he's
good.
Gotcha.
Do you understand what I mean?
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
So basically, you get what you pay for.
I've only got a high schooleducation, but I'm understanding
this, yep.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And step number three don't believe what you see on
TV, because they're lying to you.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Oh yeah, I mean it's like court.
Yeah, court does not go like itdoes.
There are a ton of shows now.
I mean it's boomed, but Iremember going back and you and
I talked before the show startedabout what was like the one,
one of the first shows weremember, and it was this Old
House.
Those guys were good.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Which those guys were , I thought were very good.
They were good, they werehonest and they were.
And until, uh, bob vila leftand tried to become bob vila.
Right, they were honest.
They told you hey, we're inmonth six of this project.
Right now these new ones arelike oh, day 48.
Yeah, screw you.
You have 480 people doing thiswhich you don't show on tv,
right?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
now, is that what?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
happens.
Yes, okay, you've already donethis for the people that you
already preselected.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, we were talking about this and I started naming
off some shows and you werelike nope, garbage, nope, they
stink.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yep, they're not good .
Oh, that was a good one.
I mean, I mean Chip and Joannawere good.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, but they got out of it.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
People were buying their houses trying to get on
their show, knowing that if theycould, the house would be done
and be worth like four timesmore than it was, just because
Chip and Joanna did it Right,which is good for them, yeah,
but Chip and Joanna are like wedon't want this attached to us.
Oh, right, right, these peopleare just buying our houses to
sell next year, yeah, makingbuku dollars off of them.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
They were literally trying to do things for people.
I didn't realize that and thatkind of makes sense and it's.
I mean I don't know if theyhave any like no-sell clauses or
whatever, but I mean you knowwhat I mean, it didn't matter.
It didn't matter.
No, gotcha, you can have a will, it doesn't matter.
Yep, I mean, besides that, Imean some of the newer ones are
(10:10):
kind of like off the wall, likeyou said, they do these houses
in like three months, two months, and I didn't realize they had
that many people there.
Oh, you have to, and they onlyshow you like three or four guys
.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And that is another thing that puts a bad
connotation on contractors.
Right, people think it'ssupposed to take two months and
no, it's not how it works.
No, it's so false Right andthey're like well, why isn't it
done yet?
I was like because it takes sixto eight months for this
project.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I was like Like I told you thatup front, Exactly, and you
think it's two months, and whyisn't it done?
(10:41):
How come we're not here?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Well, you told me straight up on my bathroom it's
going to be like two months andit was basically six, seven
weeks.
You know, yeah, but we gotcaught, you've got to line all
those people up.
Well, you have to line them up,but we got caught with COVID as
well.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Supplies were like there's so many outstanding
variables that you can't reallyprepare for.
That will delay progress, right?
It's not like I don't want mymoney.
So it's not like I'm here forno reason, right, I just want to
string you along.
Yeah, it's because I there'sstuff.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I can't do so, being a contractor yourself, is there
anything that you don't do onyour own that you call a guy?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Oh yeah, really, I don't have the electricals.
I don't do any of themechanicals myself.
Okay, I sub those out to peoplethat have the proper licenses
for that.
I'm a general contractor Right,so I come.
I'm like Home Depot, basicallycontractor Right, so I come.
I'm like Home Depot, basicallyyou hire me, I've got everything
I need.
Okay, Do you know what I mean?
Yep, yep, you don't have tohire anybody else, I'll take
care of it.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I take care of all of it.
Well, that's how, yeah, that'show you rolled, and you actually
the plumber that you used Istill use him today, miranda and
that's how they get businessRight.
And the guys that you did withthe tile, those guys were
awesome.
They're hard to get.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Are they really?
I'm glad I have them, butthey're hard to get, for me too.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Really yes, they're that busy.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
They are absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well, they're fantastic.
You're right, the Donahues, theDonahue brothers.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yep, if you get a chance and you're in the area,
call the Donahues.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
In Central Connecticut.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yep, the plumber is awesome.
Oh, he's very good, and I useTommy Bussett for electrical.
That's my guy, jerry Alderay isalso awesome.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
That's another one of my guys, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
So there's.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I mean there's a lot of good people.
They're a little bit older now,so it's they do certain work
for certain people, Yep, butthose are two very good
electricians, absolutely, and soI have to do that Right.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Otherwise, oh, that's , yeah, okay, I get it.
Yeah, and you're not evenreally paying the DIY hire.
A pro debate about what'sbetter, doing it yourself does
not save you any money.
It doesn't.
It doesn't and it could.
It ends up it could cost youmore, costing you more.
Right, you have to figure inyour own time.
So let's just say for S's andG's, my hourly rate is 50 bucks.
(13:05):
Okay, yeah, what's yours worth?
To do it yourself?
Oh, you could be out theremaking money at your job, at my
job.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Instead, I'm taking the day off To do this Right.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
It might take you eight hours.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
It'll take me two, exactly Because I already know
how to do it and what I'm doing,right.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
So your eight hours is now $400 and I only charge
you a hundred bucks, then if Ido something wrong, like now, it
costs you even more.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Cut, cut the wires or put in the insulation upside
down or whatever I'm doing wrong90% of the time, the materials
are going to be the materials,right?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's what it's going to cost you.
Yep, that's what it's going tocost me.
There's no change in that.
So now it's your time versus mytime is what is the factor
Right?
The last variable is like youtake eight hours, I take two.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, here's another thing that I used to do.
I used to do this on my own.
A lot was oil changes for yourcar.
But then I found I mean, yeah,you could save a lot of money
there because I think the pricehas gone up quite a bit for oil
changes, but there's nowhere toget rid of the oil.
That's the problem I had.
You know, there is, there is aplace.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, I can get rid of it for you, man.
You do everything I do, andthat's why you hire me.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
That's how.
That's how it works.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yes, that's how.
That's how it works.
Yes, ditto for hire, justcalled ditto the profit.
I love it because.
And so yeah, there aremechanics that run their shops.
Yep, the furnaces burn that oil, gotcha yep so you take it
that's why they well, that's notwhy they do it, but that's part
of their perk for doing itright because they have a place
to get rid of.
They can just dump it in thefurnace and go yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
In the tank.
They never realized that, yep,but yeah, I used to get rid of
it when my dad was aroundbecause he worked in a machine
shop.
So he had access to the oilbins at his shop and got rid of
it.
So it was a lot easier to dooil changes back then, you know,
yeah.
You know, there's still placesto get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I didn't realize, oh yeah there is, but you have to
pay for that too.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
So that's an extra cost.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yes, yeah, Now, at this point I mean what do you
think these places do when?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
they can't burn all of it.
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's why.
And then they just refine itand sell it back to you.
Gotcha, it's a racket.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
They clean it, refine it, sell it back to you.
There's money to be made outthere.
So one thing I do a lot on myown and I know you, I think it I
don't know if it's your companyor not assemblycom, some
Assembly, some Assembly.
Yep, I do put a lot of myfurniture together, but I know
you can also pay for that, whichwould save a lot of that's, a
lot of headaches, and I meanI've done script a lot of shit
(15:49):
like screws and whatever I mean,cause you're just not used to
working with a drill, which youare, you know, or professionals
are, yep.
And then you got to go back tothe store get more stuff.
It's like, ah, caramba.
Then you got to hear MrsKeebler.
I mean sorry, you know, hearyour wife.
(16:10):
Somebody's like sorry, mrsKeebler, she's going to be mad
at you.
Ah crap, I always get myself introuble.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
We all do.
We're not smart people, men introuble, we all, we all do we're
not smart people, men.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
No, we're dumb pretty much, but anyway, uh.
So here's another thing that II have a hard time with.
You ever watch propertybrothers, yeah.
And you see, you know there's alady's profession is like a dog
manager and her budget's like725 000 for her rem.
And then you think about itwhat the hell have I done wrong
(16:44):
with my life?
You know, you got a dog managerhere with that much money to
spend and it's like what am Idoing wrong?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
That's the one part a lot of people don't take into
account.
Yeah, the budgets on thoseshows are so much higher than
what you've got.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm trying to think because that one is it because
they're in better areas?
I know a couple of those showsare in California, where the
money's higher, or Toronto.
I know one of them's based inToronto.
I think that's Love it or Listit maybe with the houses what
they sell.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
It does have a lot to do with where you are.
That's why, chip and Joanna,the houses are like $110,000.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
That's not like that here.
Well, no, that's like uh.
Aaron and ben napier fromhometown.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
They're down in alabama, mississippi we're
giving a lot of shout outs toshows I don't like all right,
let's give a new shout out.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
All right, we got a new heating and air conditioning
company hvac southington,connecticut called true comfort.
Give them a holler if you needanything done.
You know, with your furnace.
Heating and air conditioningcompany HVAC Southington,
connecticut called True Comfort,give them a holler if you need
anything done.
You know with your furnace, airconditioning, anything.
They're fantastic, fantastic,true Comfort.
Eric, look for Eric Yep.
Just call and ask for Eric Yepand they are up and coming.
Yep, just started a coupleweeks ago.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
So, right now they're looking for business, they go.
So right now they're lookingfor business, they are Right.
So if you call them now, you'regoing to get a solid price,
absolutely Because they want tobuild a customer base.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Absolutely so.
Give them a shout.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
If I had the number I'd tell you.
I wish I did too.
I don't have it offhand, butI'm sure there's a website, yep,
and I will see if.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I can put it up on our website too.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
That'd be great.
You can go to sakitumacom andlook it up.
I'll get it up there as soon asI can.
True comfort Southington.
Look them up, give them somebusiness.
Same with some assembly forcrying out loud.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, what about some assembly?
I know that guy, that guy'sawesome, he's our sponsor.
That guy's hungry.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
So quick reference also into making a decision
about the DIY.
Yeah reference also into makinga decision about the diy.
Yeah, if it, if it has toinclude major plumbing, major
electrical yep or a permit, justcall, just call some,
especially with a permit,absolutely call somebody.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I know you saved my ass.
Uh, back at my, my new househere.
Um, I was thinking about havingsomebody come put a deck on and
you're like, keebler, you can'tdo it here because you have
septic.
That's too close and I didn'tknow the guidelines, and you
straightened that out for me,which was awesome.
So what I did was a patio andyou gave me a guy for that, yep,
(19:14):
and it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
That's why I have the red cape upstairs in my closet
With the S on it Yep, whenever.
I have to save a problem on it.
Yep, whenever I have to save aproblem, love it.
You know, t-bot, we went over.
I used to work for her brother.
Oh okay, you know how manytimes I had to pull T-Bot out of
the fire?
No kidding.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
She's in the other room too.
She's probably getting pissedright now.
Ears are burning.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, and that's it.
That's why a professional is sovaluable, right, and that's
what you're paying for, so youdon't run into mistakes like
that.
But you can get professionalsthat are not professional.
Well, true, and those guys areon Angie's list, really, yes.
Or if you get a Home Depot lead, home Depot tells you who to
(19:59):
hire.
Yep, be careful.
The only thing I recommend HomeDepot for is carpet, oh, home.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Depot tells you who to hire.
Yep, be careful.
The only thing I recommend HomeDepot for is carpet.
Oh, they're good at carpet?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yes, they are.
Oh, I don't know why.
I've always had good luck withHome Depot and carpets.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
And now that you mention this, it's funny because
it's bringing another storyback with Mrs Keebler.
When we first started datingthat house she had up in
Torrington which you did theroof for.
She had a plumbing problem.
She had like a willow tree inthe front and it was clogging up
the drain and stuff.
She had a guy come out and shewanted to get a couple of quotes
and this guy gave her a pricebut he says I can give you
(20:34):
$1,500 off.
She was like hemming and hawing.
He says I can give you $1,500off if you go with me right now.
She's kind of pushing her.
If you know my wife, you don'tpush her.
No, you don't.
Then come to find out shedidn't go with the guy because
(20:54):
the guy was pissing her off.
She checked with the BetterBusiness Bureau.
The guy was pissing her off andshe checked with the better
business bureau and the guy waslike blacklisted he was.
It was like no, don't doanything with this, this plumber
, because he just sucks yeah youknow, and her intuition was
spot on, which, which is goodit's like even anderson.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
They have the anderson renewal.
Yes, I don't know if it's goodor bad, but those are the.
I'm only using that as anexample and I'm not saying
anything bad about them.
Okay, but salesmen like that,those are the ones you don't
want to hire, right?
I don't know if Anderson isgood or bad at their renewal
stuff, but when they go to thehouse they're looking for
basically an older person, anelderly person.
(21:34):
I'm going to tell you anotherstory elderly person.
I'm going to tell you anotherstory, yeah, who was worried
about their roof or theirwindows or their siding?
And they're going to tell themstories.
Right, how, this is I?
I went and did a roof for a guy.
Yep, he was elderly, he, infact, he just passed away.
So, oh, rip, condolences, yeah,yeah, uh.
And the guy, and he like I justgot a price for $18,000.
(21:59):
Wow, I was like, seriously,$18,000?
Yep, you have a raised ranch.
Yep, wow, 18 grand for a roof.
I did it for about 5,500 bucks.
He was happier than a pig insquat.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Absolutely.
The story I got is the one youdid for my mom Same thing.
She got a quote it's like$13,000.
And they're like, oh, if youcan go right now, you know, put
this much amount down.
And I can't remember thecompany and I would say their
name on the air because it wasjust well.
I would Good thing Put goodthings out there, not bad things
(22:32):
.
Okay, but anyway, long storyshort, she didn't go with them
and you did it $7,000, $8,000cheaper and great job.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Thank you, You're welcome.
I appreciate that.
But yes, that's what they do.
They kind of prey on theelderly and they want you to
sign it right there, Right right, Because you don't know how
much longer your roof is goingto last.
Oh yeah, and nobody stops andthinks for a minute.
Wait a minute.
It's been there for 20 years.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
But what is the life expectancy for a roof?
20 to 25?
Roughly.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
They say 25 to 30 years is every time you should
redo it.
Gotcha Right, and so I don'tknow if that's necessarily true,
because I've gone in and doneroofs that were 50 years old.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Really.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yes, so it's like it depends upon the batch of
shingles you get.
Yep on the batch of shinglesyou get Yep With uh.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Well, and what like the plywood?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
The weather.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
The weather, yeah Everything.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And there's.
I've gone to roofs wherethere's nails exposed and it's
not leaking.
Really, I'm like damn, At thatpoint you don't want to chance
it.
No, exactly, it's notnecessarily a dire emergency
because it's not leaking.
Right, because it's not leaking.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
But if you want to, here's whatit's going to cost.
(23:42):
You know what I mean.
You don't have to sign with metoday.
Just remember.
I came here and said if it'snot leaking, what are you
worried about?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Right, that's definitely a red flag, somebody
that's pushing you and pushingyou and pushing you to go with
the deal right now.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
The other thing with roofing companies nobody gets on
the roof, Nobody goes up thereto check?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
No, you did, I do you go?
Not only did you go in the roofno, I don't, that's what I mean
but you went on the roof and inthe attic.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Correct, check both sides, yep, make sure there
isn't in fact anything leaking,because otherwise it's going to
cost more.
Absolutely, because I've got tofix sheetrock and insulation.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Plus, you can't see the plywood from outside,
correct?
I mean, you can feel it if it'sspongy, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
But you can see it more on the inside.
Yeah, if you've gotdiscoloration or whatever's
going on in there you know, andthey will come in there and tell
you that you're going to needplywood replaced, right, you
figure it in there, and thenthey don't have to change
anything, right so?
You paid for something younever got.
Exactly Crazy.
(24:44):
It's the way they work which Ithink is scummy.
I agree, I agree, and there's alot of points in time in it's
like how greedy do you want tobe?
What's fair to everybody?
Right, I can make a coupleextra bucks Cool.
What do I need?
If I made an extra thousanddollars on a major project?
Great, I ripped them off.
(25:05):
Yep, I made a couple extrabucks.
I didn't think I was going tomake and everyone is happy,
everybody's happy.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
That's the way it goes.
That's business, because itFair is good.
Yes, I agree, dude, we are wayover.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Are you kidding me?
Nope, I wouldn't kid you, god.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
You look too silly to be kidding around with I'm in
my new gear.
I know, wait, you'll see it onvideo.
Oh yeah, I got some new.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Sakatumi gear.
I got my.
Don't Stare at the Sun.
I'm Hot shirt on.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Love it.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Anyway, everybody love it.
Anyway, everybody, thanks forjoining, thanks for listening
and remember you can youtubeanything doesn't mean you can do
it.
You can see it on youtubedoesn't mean you can do it, true
, but as you listen to theprofessional here.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Don't do like.
Don't do like, keebler.
Hey, everybody can podcast aslong as you got the mics on
right.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
But we but we are at the end.
So again, guys, thanks forlistening and, as always, be
good.
Hey everybody, it's Ditto.
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Hey everybody, it's Ditto.
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Thank you.
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