September 9, 2025 • 28 mins
Fantasy football season has arrived, and with it comes a fascinating exploration of our society's contradictory relationship with gambling. As our podcast hosts welcome new players to their fantasy league, the conversation quickly evolves into a thought-provoking examination of who gets to decide what constitutes problematic behavior.
The absurdity reaches its peak when one host shares his experience in a mandatory class where participants are essentially labeled as gambling addicts for engaging in fantasy sports—the same activities now heavily promoted through mainstream advertising. His brilliant response when asked why people visit casinos—"I'm addicted to the oxygen"—perfectly captures the ridiculous double standard at play.
We dissect how gambling has transformed from taboo to mainstream entertainment, with celebrities like Kevin Hart constantly appearing in betting app commercials during every football broadcast. Yet simultaneously, individuals participating in fantasy leagues face scrutiny and judgment from systems designed to label rather than understand.
Through personal anecdotes and sharp observations, we highlight the hypocrisy of a society that profits from gambling while stigmatizing those who participate. From state-sponsored lotteries to the ubiquitous betting platforms, the message is clear: gambling is only a problem when someone else decides it is.
Whether you're a fantasy sports enthusiast, a casual gambler, or someone who's experienced judgment for your recreational choices, this episode offers a refreshing perspective on personal agency and the arbitrary nature of societal labels. Join us for an honest, often humorous look at who really gets to define our problems, and why that matters more than you might think.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, everybody, welcome to.
Saki Toomey.
Hey everybody, it's Ditto.
Welcome back to Saki Toomey,the podcast that connects people
to people.
Even if you're a degenerategambler, I'm here with t-bot hey
, hey this is our first week, ohyeah, of fantasy football
fantasy football I'm pumped andI have no idea what the f I am
(00:37):
doing this is your first team,isn't it ever I could tell
thanks, you didn't even draft atight, you didn't even draft a
tight end.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You didn't even draft a tight end.
I have to go back the next day.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's not a big deal .
It's really not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I know, I know, I know, but I'm a little nervous.
I am a little nervous aboutthat, I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
But I'm proud of you and Casey, to be honest, because
this season right here is bothof your first seasons.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I thought she did one once before she said I don't
think so.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Okay, I think that's what she said, that's fine, you
were both yelling at me in thedraft.
Oh yeah, we were, because wewere like help me, help me, help
me.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I don't know what to do.
I can't.
Who do I draft?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I know you have three teams expert I.
I am far from an expert.
Okay, I'll take that back.
You have three teams.
You've done it a heck of a lotlonger than than I have, so I
asked for your you knowexpertise they have levels like
they have levels as far as so wewe do yahoo yeah, right, right
right so they have levels.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'm like a bronze okay that's horrible.
Basically means you suck atfancy football well, okay, I
guess it's there's still.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Third place is bronze .
It's not that bad.
I mean, there's 10 of us onthis team and I'm thinking I'm
gonna come in like second to thelast, because I have no idea
what I'm doing fantasy footballstarted in like the early 2000s,
right thousands and literallyset everything off for fantasy
sports.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Right, right, right, right.
Yep, I've been doing it sincethen and I'm bronze.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Oh Well.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So over almost 20,.
Let's just go shits and gigs 25years Okay, I'm bronze.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, okay, when you put it that way, yeah, loser.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I am far from an expert.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
All right, take it back.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
But I know how the whole gig works Right Right,
right right.
And so I was trying to teachyou girls.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yes, I mean, I love football.
It's my favorite time of year.
I know some of the players Ilove watching, but when you get
to that situation, I panicked, Ipanicked.
So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, that's because you're a woman.
Oh, here we go.
But I do want to say one thingout loud to everyone I'm proud
of both of you.
I'm proud of both of you fordoing this.
Yeah, you're going to love it.
I'm going to yeah, it will makefootball more fun, correct,
correct.
And then you've got somethingto do on the side Right, like
another dude or whatever.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Oh my God Jesus, we'll cut that one out.
Yes, nailed it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Here we go, so fantasy football is my favorite
thing.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
It is.
I like it more than MarchMadness, really, yes, and I love
March Madness, oh I love MarchMadness, I love March Madness.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Oh, I love March Madness I love, march Madness.
I think March Madness, to me atthis particular point, is a
little easier, because you justpick them all at once and then
you just write it Like now I'vegot to move my play.
There we go.
Come on, here we go.
Choose your words wisely, Ididn't choose my words, you just
have to pick up on them.
Anyway, what do you think thelisteners are doing?
(03:44):
I don't think they're doing itlike you are, anyway.
So now I've got to remember tomake sure I set my line up and
now I have to make sure I checkto see who's injured, who's out
have to replace.
It's a little more stressfulthan just March Madness.
So to me, I think I like MarchMadness better because there's
not so much that I had to putinto it.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
See, I would disagree with you on that.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Okay, that's fine, you can.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Here's why Okay, go.
Here's why what you're sayingisn't wrong Okay.
I know that, but you only havelike four days to get that thing
done.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Oh, between March, from Selection Sunday Right To
the first Thursday.
Right have to pick your teamsFair enough, and then you're
done.
And then I'm done so yeah, thatis like the most stressful time
ever.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'll give you that, but this is every week thing.
Now, if I forget to set mylineup, then I've got someone
injured who's not playing.
There goes my points.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Losing one week isn't going to kill you.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm still learning all this point-wise and all this
and that's what I'm trying toteach you, so I understand what
you're saying.
Yeah, I disagree with youbecause March Madness is more
hectic right in the beginning.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I will give you right in the beginning, but that's
all you have to do.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's all you have to do for fantasy football too, and
you'll see this.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Well, okay, again, you're right, I have to witness
it and go through it, and allthat because it's my first time.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It is yeah, and I'm proud of you for doing it.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I've been wanting to do it I really have for the past
couple of years, because I seeeverybody do it.
It looks like it's fun.
And now that I'm in it and Iwas doing the whole the picking,
I'm like, whoa, I'm a littlestressed out, I'm a little
stressed out.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Again, that's because you're a woman.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You're a woman.
Here we go.
Here we go, the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
No, I'm really not thinking of the Super Bowl.
Yeah, you are, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I still want to come in last, because that's why the
Super Bowl's coming it is.
You have no control over it,nope, and yet you're worried
about it, because that's whatwomen do and that's why we love
them.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, well, sometimes it goes both ways, buddy.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Anyway, is fantasy football gambling.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, I never actually thought about it, but
we had to put money up becausewe're all in a pool.
So if you put money up for asports situation or sports
whatever, you're gamblingcorrect.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
What's the definition of gambling?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Probably.
You put money up to dosomething and then you either
win or lose on an outcome you'renot sure of okay, okay, right
so fantasy football would begambling right and march,
madness would be gambling rightright, correct.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
If you do those two things, yeah, do you have a
gambling problem?
Oh, good question what is agambling problem?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
huh, uh.
Well, here's my opinion on thegambling thing.
I don't think what I'm doingconstitutes me as a having a
gambling problem, because I'mputting up money up front and
I'm only losing that money.
I'm not putting any more intoit.
You, people, you, when peoplego to casinos, they lose track
of their money and they keepgoing and going and going in
their debt and they have to paypeople and they do it all the
(06:49):
time.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Who has the ability to tell you that you do or do
not have a problem?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I don't know, never thought about it.
No one, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's your life.
If you want to lose $150,000 ina day, oh, that's rough, that's
your problem.
Yes, so I've been watching the,the, the.
Was it the final dance?
The last dance?
Oh, yeah, about the bowls, ohyeah, yeah.
Michael Jordan is a gamblerright.
Michael Jordan will lose five,10, $15,000 a hole at golf.
(07:17):
Pocket change yeah, you knowwhat Michael Jordan has the
luxury to do that Right.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
But there are people that don't understand that
concept and lose their houses,they get divorced, they lose
everything because they havesuch a problem.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Who are you to say they have a problem?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Well, I'm not saying they have a problem per se,
because I don't know it, but ifyou hear about it, then it
constitutes a problem.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You're wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Okay, why?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Because you have no right to say that somebody has a
problem.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Okay, why?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Let's just say they drink too much, right?
How much do they have to drinkto have a problem?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Depends upon the person.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Depends upon the person, right?
No, it doesn't.
Okay, you give them the problemby labeling them like that.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
There are people out there that will get hammered
Right and go to work Right andproduce.
Okay, Do they have a problem?
Guy over here got a drunkdriving accident.
He's got a problem.
It's like where do you draw theline and why?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Good question.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Who is it for anyone to tell anyone they have a
problem?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Until I get in trouble, I guess.
I mean, if you think about itlike if you get in trouble and
you have a debt, that's aproblem, then you have a problem
, you get DUI.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
You have a problem because you're in debt.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Well, if you have a DUI, that's a problem, then you
get labeled as a problem.
So I guess, until you have aproblem, you're not a problem.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Right, right, okay.
Well, the I'm in these classes,yeah, and the other day they
sat me down, not me, a guy satdown in my class, yep, and
they're like two things One ofthem's funny, one of them's
(09:02):
straightforward, oh boy, buthe's like does anybody here like
to go to the casino?
And most of the guys in theroom raise their hand.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah right.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
And why do you like to go to the casino?
My immediate reaction wasbecause I like the oxygen.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I'm addicted to the oxygen.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You're such an idiot.
I caught him off guard so badlythat the leader of the class
and the guy that's sitting downdid not know what to say I
wouldn't either, because it'sactually fun.
I'm surprised I didn't laugh soI sit here and I'm gonna tell
you I don't gamble right but Iplay fantasy football right and
I play march madness correctright so is that gambling?
that's gambling I asked him thattoo.
(09:44):
What do you say?
Well, that's a different kindof gambling.
No, oh, there's a differentkind of gambling.
There's levels.
Yeah, that's what I'm like.
Oh, so now you could sort thisout.
Was it compartmentalized?
Right?
Right, like you could justdecide where the level of
problem I have is right.
I'm like fuck you powerballgambling all these people are
going out right now all gamblingyep, all gambling and buying
(10:07):
powerball tickets because it'slike a billion bucks or whatever
, whatever yeah, but that'sagain.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
That's gambling.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
That's exactly what it is yeah, but it's only 20,
you know exactly, but that'sexactly it, yes, so now there
here's this hardcore degenerategambler, right, coming into this
class to tell me about gambling.
Yeah, and I really don't gamble, right, I don't go to the
casino yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
All I do is what I said.
Yeah, fantasy football andMarch Madness.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I make too much money to lose it all.
Honestly, I just yeah, I can'tdo it, it does not strike me as
something that's great.
Exactly Like I said, marchMadness, this'm not wasting any
more of my money.
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And he sat there and it was like he was here.
I am saying I don't gamble, Ijust do fantasy and March
Madness, yeah, and he's makingme feel like I have a problem.
Wow Right.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Because this is how it starts and this is how you're
going to be if you keep doingthis.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like bro, shut the hell up.
Yeah, so he's doing that.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I'm this age.
Yeah, it would have alreadyhappened, oh well, get out of
this class.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Some people get their social security checks and
guess where they go?
Bam, let's go blow it all.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Let's go blow it all on oxygen they were so caught
off guard.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Oh, great of an answer.
Oh, I can't.
That's a great answer.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I raised my hand, like people were like this hand
all the way to the sky, all theway to the sky, and I'm like I
got it right here and they'relooking at me and I guess I'm
like I go there for the oxygen.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
So wait time out.
I'm sorry, did I ask you?
Did anyone laugh in the class?
Anyone have anything to say?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Every single person laughed.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I was going to say you cannot not laugh at that.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Every single person laughed.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
That's a great answer .
Oh God, that's a great answer.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I was going to say the lack of windows.
That too, that would haveworked too.
I thought oxygen was.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh no, I think my exact response was I'm addicted
to the oxygen.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
You said I'm addicted to the oxygen.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I'm addicted to the oxygen, oh that's great.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Good for you, that's great.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
In a men's substance abuse class or something like
that.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Oh my God Stop.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
That's fantastic.
The dude did not know what tosay.
That's fantastic.
He starts talking about howwe're all degenerate because we
gamble it all.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh God, here we go.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And then I raised my hand again and said what about,
like fantasy sports?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And he's like, well, yeah, that's gambling, blah,
blah.
I was like, well, how come Ican't watch a baseball game
anymore without draft kings?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
that's right or fan duel right all the time yeah, we
just talked about that you'rejust pushing this on me yep,
exactly that used to be that wayyeah, if I have, I have a
problem A why are you here?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
And B why is this happening?
Right, right, right and noresponse.
Really.
Yeah.
So I'm getting to the point nowwhere I'm like these classes
just are?
They're there to tell you thatyou have a problem?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Oh, I believe it and you don't it and you don't.
Oh, you don't right, you don'tright.
But yeah, we just talked aboutthat, remember, with it never
used to be any commercials aboutgambling.
Well, they showed keep it up,draft king and all that, and you
and don't they have like thisinstant bet too that you could
do when you watch a game?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
that's what I asked yeah, okay I was like, if you
bet on a game, if you thinkyou're gonna lose, they'll ask
you, like the seventh inning,yeah, to redo it, like they want
you to lose again.
Jesus.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And Connecticut was the last state to actually give
in.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, I think you said something about that.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Do you know why I don't remember?
Because of the Yukon Huskies.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Because the casinos are here, right On Indian land.
Yep, they had to figure out away to get around betting on the
Huskies.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Oh, okay, do you?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
know what I mean Gotcha.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That's what it was, so it took them forever yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That's why Connecticut was one of the last
states to include this Federally.
It's legal Statewide.
You can choose.
It's legal in all 50 states.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And now they're showing Fandle.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Which is ridiculous, ridiculous.
You cannot sit in a class andtell me I'm a degenerate gambler
, right?
When you're just going to pushit on me Exactly when are the
cigarette commercials?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, I don't see many.
There aren't any.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Nope, nope, they got rid of them.
Yep, they got rid of them,mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Now they replace it with gambling they replace it
with gambling.
Exactly so I'm just addicted tothe oxygen.
Yeah, you can't be accused ofgambling when you're doing all
this.
It's impossible.
They can't do that, they justcan't.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
They weren't necessarily accusing, but they
make you feel like you have aproblem.
They make you second guessyourself.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Okay, which means no, it's pretty much accusing.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
No, which means they want to keep you there.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And who are they to tell me yeah, nobody said I have
a problem with oxygen.
No one has a problem that Ihave a problem with oxygen.
I need it, I can't live withoutit.
You know what I mean?
True story.
And then they pump that shitinto the casinos so you stay
awake, I can't, so fuck youcasino.
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
it's fucked up.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
It is so fucked up when you think about it oxygen
is like the drug they use to getyou there yes, and then they
put you in these classes andtell you you're a bastard for
gambling right, when all youreally want is the oxygen right
it's funny.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It is funny, that is a funny thing.
But yeah, so you're gonna haveto help me with my lineups and
stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You gotta remind me I'm gonna forget I do not have
to help you with anything.
No, I know I gave you theadvice in leadership that you
needed I got I got.
I got you where you needed tobe and now I don't have to help
you at all.
You're an enemy now.
Sink or swim t-bot, figure itout.
Figure it out, or you'regetting the toilet bowl I am.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It's my biggest fear.
No, I do appreciate you helpingme out, though I'm just going
to wing it.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
And I will still help you out.
I know you will.
You know this all ties back tolotto tickets and, like you said
, the Powerball, which is like abillion bucks.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Oh God, yeah, and now forget Gaten.
Gas, oh God, I just went intothe gas station.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I'd rather run out on the side of the road and have
AAA come out because it'll takeless time.
Oh shit, do you know what Imean?
Seriously, I'd rather wait forAAA to come get me and fill up
my tank for me.
It'll be cheaper and quickerthan walking into any gas
station Any store anything.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I went to the packet store.
I was like 15 minutes in there.
I'm like it's usually in andout, in and out.
It's like five people.
I'm like you can't go anywhereelse.
I'll take one of those, andI'll take one of those and I'm
going to get five Powerballs anddo that.
I'm like holy cow, can you justpay for this?
I got to go.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I can't.
I'm stealing this milk.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Fuck you.
I almost wasnoxiously annoyingyes, and they're all gambling,
they're all gambling.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
But they have problems.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
They have problems.
That's what they're tellingthis class, don't?
We all have problems?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Every single fucking person on this planet has a
problem.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Every single person, everyone, yes.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Mine just happens to be oxygen.
I can't get enough of it.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
No, you cannot get enough of it.
I can't get enough of it.
You cannot get enough of it.
That's a true story.
I didn't say a true story.
You suck it out of the airsometimes that you talk so much.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I honestly think we all suck it out of the air.
Good point, but to have thatdude sit in the class and tell
us we have problems.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
He's got a big set there.
That's interesting.
You know what you should havedone.
Do you gamble, Do you play?
You should have said do yougamble?
He did, oh he lost everything.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
No, he was real.
Oh really, yeah, he was real.
He was a real degenerategambler.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Really.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, he relapses, he does it again.
So, yes, he was actual.
He was real, he was a real deal.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
So now he talks about it and tries to tell people not
to do it.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
He tries to help people.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Because he knows how bad it is, which is very noble
of him.
No, that's awesome.
That's awesome, but he sits ina class and makes us feel like
we have fucking problems.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, that's not cool .
No, it's not, he's deflecting.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
No, he's not, you sure.
Yeah, he's the opposite ofdeflecting.
Okay, he's taking what he knowsand saying things to you Trying
to help, but he really believesthat he's helping.
Okay, well then, problem is, hedoesn't know who he's helping.
Oh, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So and he probably really is helping I'm sure I'm
going to err on the side ofcaution here and and he might
help them.
Yeah, you're right.
Yep, I personally just don'thave a problem gambling.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Right, it doesn't affect you either way.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Correct Right.
So the way they present it justmakes you feel bad?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah, of course, and it's not his fault.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Right, it's not his fault.
No, it's built like that.
Yeah, it's like the justicesystem wants you to feel again.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
And again.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
It's so true, and again, and again, and again.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
It's so true.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It's so transparent.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
It's so transparent, right, and you just sit there
like you people are fucked up.
It's definitely not me, it'syou so true.
But I'm the one in the class,right, right, I'm the one in the
class.
What leg do I have to stand on?
You know what I mean?
Nope, it's like oh my God, Idon't do any of this.
I don't do any of this, and youguys are telling me that I do,
(20:05):
and you really believe that whatyou're doing helps.
I know.
And it don't.
I know, and everybody in thoseclasses are like it sucks.
This is awful.
Oh God.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Those are taxpayers at work people.
Yeah, that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Oh no, they're contracted by the state.
Oh, that makes sense now.
Fantastic.
What the fuck Keep them inthere.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
The federal government wants to pay us.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It can't.
Oh my God, it's fuckingterrible.
It's terrible.
Put the hands of God down.
Oh my God, it's fuckingterrible.
It's terrible.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Put the hands together, talk about gambling.
All you do is show fuckingcommercials of gambling.
It's so dumb.
It's so dumb.
Oh my God, this is a mechanismfor just making money.
We should count on SundayFootball.
How many gambling commercialsthere are.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Let's do that, we'll reconvene.
Gambling commercials there are.
Let's do that, we'll reconveneand we'll talk about it.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Let's do that.
Absolutely, I want to actuallyfind out how many, because I'd
be interested now.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
There will be.
Kevin Hart will be on there.
Oh yes, at least.
Probably a fucking thousandtimes, exactly From 1 o'clock in
the afternoon, yep, till 11o'clock at night, when the, when
the Sunday night game's over.
Kevin Hart will be on there atleast 30 times.
I'm going to go with that.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Easily.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Easily Talk about how you can win a lot of money $500
free, $500 free.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
And he's talking about it.
He's a superhero, he's like aHollywood movie star, so let's
go out and do it, because he'stalking about it.
It's Kevin Hart.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Oh my God, it's disgusting.
It actually is disgusting, it'sdisgusting.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
So you're actually enhancing people who already
have a problem, because it's nowKevin Hart's talking about it.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, All right, good marketing.
All you did was pay a bigsuperstar to fucking promote you
so that you could get all thedegenerates that have problems
to gamble, gamble, and then putit in the system.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Twisted, so twisted.
Could you get arrested forgambling?
Uh, no, I don't think so.
Why?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
what would be the I don't know, but you can get
arrested for drinking well,obviously that's an impairment,
that's legal wait.
No gambling is legal.
Yes, drinking is legal.
I can get a dui, but I can geta DUI, but I can't get a DGI
Drunk and gambling idiot.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Wait time out, you can.
Yes, you can, because you'redrunk and you're gambling.
Yes, you can.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I've never heard of anybody getting arrested for
gambling.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
No, I don't think you can.
I think you just get in troublewith whoever you owe money to.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
So what is the problem?
I, whoever you owe money to.
So what is the problem?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I don't know.
Listen, people create fuckingproblems.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You nailed it.
You fucking nailed it.
Yeah, people create problems.
And who are you to tell me Ihave a problem?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And that's how this whole show is supposed to go.
Correct, you can't tell me I doRight, and then interventions
and shit.
Shut the fuck up, get out of mylife.
Well, you don't like what I'mdoing?
Bam Middle finger.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Well, let's not open up that kind of room.
I think interventions are madefor reasons because they may be
hurting people and they want tosee the best for the person, but
that's a whole different thing.
But I don't think that's whatwe're talking about right now.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Who is God here on Earth?
Who?
Is, who is what?
Who is god here on earth?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I don't then you don't have the ability to
fucking judge.
Oh okay, it's like it's likeyour amazon cart oh, here we go.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It's like just judging somebody by their car oh
my god you can't do that okay,well, listen, that's a whole
different story right now.
But I'm just saying that'sinterventions are for people
that have issues.
But you're right, I don't thinkanyone has ever gotten arrested
for gambling.
Why would they arrest you on?
What is the premise Again?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Completely sober coming home from the casino.
Correct, I got pulled overbecause I gambled.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
They labeled me, I lost $200,000 and they pulled me
over.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I didn't report it to the IRS.
Right right exactly.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Well, I mean, I have friends time out.
I have friends who I don't knowhow much they've lost, but they
come home and they tell me ahuge bunch of money.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
That's how you know they're a degenerate gambler,
right?
They don't tell you how muchthey lost.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Well, it's not my business either.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
It's not your business to know how much they
won.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Well, she's my friend .
Speaker 2 (24:24):
They're bragging.
They're bragging to makethemselves feel better.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
No, she basically tells me she loses money all the
time, but she also says whatshe wins.
I'm like okay, but how much didyou lose?
She's like I lost more than Iyou know, or we're ahead right
now or behind, or whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
If you gamble, you're not a winner.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
No, you're right, because you lost.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You lost, you're going to lose.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I know I agree.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's like I'm putting up this year alone in fantasy
football.
I am putting up $375 for mythree leagues, okay.
$375 for my three leagues, okay, which is cheap for fancy
football?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
But $375.
Mm-hmm, I don't know if I'llwin or not.
Right, if I cut that in half,I'm going to be like, oh yeah, I
won $175.
Right, I lost $175.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
No, I agree.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Basically, I broke even, I broke even, you broke
even.
No, you don't break even.
You lost $175.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
That's what it was right.
You didn't win Right.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
If I win the whole thing and I come out on the plus
column, Then you're ahead ofthe game.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Then I'm ahead of the game, correct?
Yeah, if you only won $175, youlost $175.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
20 years of playing fantasy football.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I've won Wait in fantasy football these years
$800 or $900.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Oh, wow, okay, so huh At once.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Oh, one time.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
One time.
No, I've won.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I don't know the total of my winnings for fantasy
football, but for your biggestpot was $900 or something like
that.
What?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I do know, is put $375 times 20.
And that's what I lost.
That's what I fucking lost.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
You gotcha Right.
Yeah, you're right, yep.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
And that's how it works.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
That's how it?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
works.
It doesn't work like oh yeah, Imean, I didn't lose all that
because I won some.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
You just said you did right Right, Right, right,
right.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
But at the end of the day, I didn't win that much.
No, right, every year.
Correct, right, right.
So I lost, yeah, I fucking lost, Right.
But it does make everythingmore fun, more interesting, of
course, right, of course.
So it's a good time, yeah, andit's money I'm willing to give
up.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Right, because you know you're going to do it.
So you give it up, you put itaside, or whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
And yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Like they go every day.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Every day they find random card games and shit.
Yes, just like in small holesin the wall.
You know what I mean.
It's fucked up, but we'll talkabout that next time.
We are getting to the end,we're 27 minutes in Oof and I
feel like we can keep going, butoh yeah, we really didn't make
any point, except for I'maddicted to oxygen, that Oxygen.
(26:54):
That's the only point we madehere Valid point.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
So, Time flies.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
At the end of the day , good luck in your fantasy
football, pools, leagues,whatever.
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Sake to me.
Hey, everybody, welcome to.
Saki Toomey.
Hey everybody, it's Ditto.
Welcome back to Saki Toomey,the podcast that connects people
to people.
Even if you're a degenerategambler, I'm here with t-bot hey
, hey this is our first week, ohyeah, of fantasy football
fantasy football I'm pumped andI have no idea what the f I am
(00:37):
doing this is your first team,isn't it ever I could tell
thanks, you didn't even draft atight, you didn't even draft a
tight end.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You didn't even draft a tight end.
I have to go back the next day.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's not a big deal .
It's really not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I know, I know, I know, but I'm a little nervous.
I am a little nervous aboutthat, I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
But I'm proud of you and Casey, to be honest, because
this season right here is bothof your first seasons.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I thought she did one once before she said I don't
think so.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Okay, I think that's what she said, that's fine, you
were both yelling at me in thedraft.
Oh yeah, we were, because wewere like help me, help me, help
me.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I don't know what to do.
I can't.
Who do I draft?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I know you have three teams expert I.
I am far from an expert.
Okay, I'll take that back.
You have three teams.
You've done it a heck of a lotlonger than than I have, so I
asked for your you knowexpertise they have levels like
they have levels as far as so wewe do yahoo yeah, right, right
right so they have levels.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'm like a bronze okay that's horrible.
Basically means you suck atfancy football well, okay, I
guess it's there's still.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Third place is bronze .
It's not that bad.
I mean, there's 10 of us onthis team and I'm thinking I'm
gonna come in like second to thelast, because I have no idea
what I'm doing fantasy footballstarted in like the early 2000s,
right thousands and literallyset everything off for fantasy
sports.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Right, right, right, right.
Yep, I've been doing it sincethen and I'm bronze.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Oh Well.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So over almost 20,.
Let's just go shits and gigs 25years Okay, I'm bronze.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, okay, when you put it that way, yeah, loser.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I am far from an expert.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
All right, take it back.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
But I know how the whole gig works Right Right,
right right.
And so I was trying to teachyou girls.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yes, I mean, I love football.
It's my favorite time of year.
I know some of the players Ilove watching, but when you get
to that situation, I panicked, Ipanicked.
So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, that's because you're a woman.
Oh, here we go.
But I do want to say one thingout loud to everyone I'm proud
of both of you.
I'm proud of both of you fordoing this.
Yeah, you're going to love it.
I'm going to yeah, it will makefootball more fun, correct,
correct.
And then you've got somethingto do on the side Right, like
another dude or whatever.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Oh my God Jesus, we'll cut that one out.
Yes, nailed it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Here we go, so fantasy football is my favorite
thing.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
It is.
I like it more than MarchMadness, really, yes, and I love
March Madness, oh I love MarchMadness, I love March Madness.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Oh, I love March Madness I love, march Madness.
I think March Madness, to me atthis particular point, is a
little easier, because you justpick them all at once and then
you just write it Like now I'vegot to move my play.
There we go.
Come on, here we go.
Choose your words wisely, Ididn't choose my words, you just
have to pick up on them.
Anyway, what do you think thelisteners are doing?
(03:44):
I don't think they're doing itlike you are, anyway.
So now I've got to remember tomake sure I set my line up and
now I have to make sure I checkto see who's injured, who's out
have to replace.
It's a little more stressfulthan just March Madness.
So to me, I think I like MarchMadness better because there's
not so much that I had to putinto it.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
See, I would disagree with you on that.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Okay, that's fine, you can.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Here's why Okay, go.
Here's why what you're sayingisn't wrong Okay.
I know that, but you only havelike four days to get that thing
done.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Oh, between March, from Selection Sunday Right To
the first Thursday.
Right have to pick your teamsFair enough, and then you're
done.
And then I'm done so yeah, thatis like the most stressful time
ever.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'll give you that, but this is every week thing.
Now, if I forget to set mylineup, then I've got someone
injured who's not playing.
There goes my points.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Losing one week isn't going to kill you.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm still learning all this point-wise and all this
and that's what I'm trying toteach you, so I understand what
you're saying.
Yeah, I disagree with youbecause March Madness is more
hectic right in the beginning.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I will give you right in the beginning, but that's
all you have to do.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's all you have to do for fantasy football too, and
you'll see this.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Well, okay, again, you're right, I have to witness
it and go through it, and allthat because it's my first time.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It is yeah, and I'm proud of you for doing it.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I've been wanting to do it I really have for the past
couple of years, because I seeeverybody do it.
It looks like it's fun.
And now that I'm in it and Iwas doing the whole the picking,
I'm like, whoa, I'm a littlestressed out, I'm a little
stressed out.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Again, that's because you're a woman.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You're a woman.
Here we go.
Here we go, the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
No, I'm really not thinking of the Super Bowl.
Yeah, you are, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I still want to come in last, because that's why the
Super Bowl's coming it is.
You have no control over it,nope, and yet you're worried
about it, because that's whatwomen do and that's why we love
them.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, well, sometimes it goes both ways, buddy.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Anyway, is fantasy football gambling.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, I never actually thought about it, but
we had to put money up becausewe're all in a pool.
So if you put money up for asports situation or sports
whatever, you're gamblingcorrect.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
What's the definition of gambling?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Probably.
You put money up to dosomething and then you either
win or lose on an outcome you'renot sure of okay, okay, right
so fantasy football would begambling right and march,
madness would be gambling rightright, correct.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
If you do those two things, yeah, do you have a
gambling problem?
Oh, good question what is agambling problem?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
huh, uh.
Well, here's my opinion on thegambling thing.
I don't think what I'm doingconstitutes me as a having a
gambling problem, because I'mputting up money up front and
I'm only losing that money.
I'm not putting any more intoit.
You, people, you, when peoplego to casinos, they lose track
of their money and they keepgoing and going and going in
their debt and they have to paypeople and they do it all the
(06:49):
time.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Who has the ability to tell you that you do or do
not have a problem?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I don't know, never thought about it.
No one, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's your life.
If you want to lose $150,000 ina day, oh, that's rough, that's
your problem.
Yes, so I've been watching the,the, the.
Was it the final dance?
The last dance?
Oh, yeah, about the bowls, ohyeah, yeah.
Michael Jordan is a gamblerright.
Michael Jordan will lose five,10, $15,000 a hole at golf.
(07:17):
Pocket change yeah, you knowwhat Michael Jordan has the
luxury to do that Right.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
But there are people that don't understand that
concept and lose their houses,they get divorced, they lose
everything because they havesuch a problem.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Who are you to say they have a problem?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Well, I'm not saying they have a problem per se,
because I don't know it, but ifyou hear about it, then it
constitutes a problem.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You're wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Okay, why?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Because you have no right to say that somebody has a
problem.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Okay, why?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Let's just say they drink too much, right?
How much do they have to drinkto have a problem?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Depends upon the person.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Depends upon the person, right?
No, it doesn't.
Okay, you give them the problemby labeling them like that.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
There are people out there that will get hammered
Right and go to work Right andproduce.
Okay, Do they have a problem?
Guy over here got a drunkdriving accident.
He's got a problem.
It's like where do you draw theline and why?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Good question.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Who is it for anyone to tell anyone they have a
problem?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Until I get in trouble, I guess.
I mean, if you think about itlike if you get in trouble and
you have a debt, that's aproblem, then you have a problem
, you get DUI.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
You have a problem because you're in debt.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Well, if you have a DUI, that's a problem, then you
get labeled as a problem.
So I guess, until you have aproblem, you're not a problem.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Right, right, okay.
Well, the I'm in these classes,yeah, and the other day they
sat me down, not me, a guy satdown in my class, yep, and
they're like two things One ofthem's funny, one of them's
(09:02):
straightforward, oh boy, buthe's like does anybody here like
to go to the casino?
And most of the guys in theroom raise their hand.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah right.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
And why do you like to go to the casino?
My immediate reaction wasbecause I like the oxygen.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I'm addicted to the oxygen.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You're such an idiot.
I caught him off guard so badlythat the leader of the class
and the guy that's sitting downdid not know what to say I
wouldn't either, because it'sactually fun.
I'm surprised I didn't laugh soI sit here and I'm gonna tell
you I don't gamble right but Iplay fantasy football right and
I play march madness correctright so is that gambling?
that's gambling I asked him thattoo.
(09:44):
What do you say?
Well, that's a different kindof gambling.
No, oh, there's a differentkind of gambling.
There's levels.
Yeah, that's what I'm like.
Oh, so now you could sort thisout.
Was it compartmentalized?
Right?
Right, like you could justdecide where the level of
problem I have is right.
I'm like fuck you powerballgambling all these people are
going out right now all gamblingyep, all gambling and buying
(10:07):
powerball tickets because it'slike a billion bucks or whatever
, whatever yeah, but that'sagain.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
That's gambling.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
That's exactly what it is yeah, but it's only 20,
you know exactly, but that'sexactly it, yes, so now there
here's this hardcore degenerategambler, right, coming into this
class to tell me about gambling.
Yeah, and I really don't gamble, right, I don't go to the
casino yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
All I do is what I said.
Yeah, fantasy football andMarch Madness.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I make too much money to lose it all.
Honestly, I just yeah, I can'tdo it, it does not strike me as
something that's great.
Exactly Like I said, marchMadness, this'm not wasting any
more of my money.
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And he sat there and it was like he was here.
I am saying I don't gamble, Ijust do fantasy and March
Madness, yeah, and he's makingme feel like I have a problem.
Wow Right.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Because this is how it starts and this is how you're
going to be if you keep doingthis.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like bro, shut the hell up.
Yeah, so he's doing that.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I'm this age.
Yeah, it would have alreadyhappened, oh well, get out of
this class.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Some people get their social security checks and
guess where they go?
Bam, let's go blow it all.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Let's go blow it all on oxygen they were so caught
off guard.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Oh, great of an answer.
Oh, I can't.
That's a great answer.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I raised my hand, like people were like this hand
all the way to the sky, all theway to the sky, and I'm like I
got it right here and they'relooking at me and I guess I'm
like I go there for the oxygen.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
So wait time out.
I'm sorry, did I ask you?
Did anyone laugh in the class?
Anyone have anything to say?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Every single person laughed.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I was going to say you cannot not laugh at that.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Every single person laughed.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
That's a great answer .
Oh God, that's a great answer.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I was going to say the lack of windows.
That too, that would haveworked too.
I thought oxygen was.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh no, I think my exact response was I'm addicted
to the oxygen.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
You said I'm addicted to the oxygen.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I'm addicted to the oxygen, oh that's great.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Good for you, that's great.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
In a men's substance abuse class or something like
that.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Oh my God Stop.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
That's fantastic.
The dude did not know what tosay.
That's fantastic.
He starts talking about howwe're all degenerate because we
gamble it all.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh God, here we go.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And then I raised my hand again and said what about,
like fantasy sports?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And he's like, well, yeah, that's gambling, blah,
blah.
I was like, well, how come Ican't watch a baseball game
anymore without draft kings?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
that's right or fan duel right all the time yeah, we
just talked about that you'rejust pushing this on me yep,
exactly that used to be that wayyeah, if I have, I have a
problem A why are you here?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
And B why is this happening?
Right, right, right and noresponse.
Really.
Yeah.
So I'm getting to the point nowwhere I'm like these classes
just are?
They're there to tell you thatyou have a problem?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Oh, I believe it and you don't it and you don't.
Oh, you don't right, you don'tright.
But yeah, we just talked aboutthat, remember, with it never
used to be any commercials aboutgambling.
Well, they showed keep it up,draft king and all that, and you
and don't they have like thisinstant bet too that you could
do when you watch a game?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
that's what I asked yeah, okay I was like, if you
bet on a game, if you thinkyou're gonna lose, they'll ask
you, like the seventh inning,yeah, to redo it, like they want
you to lose again.
Jesus.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And Connecticut was the last state to actually give
in.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, I think you said something about that.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Do you know why I don't remember?
Because of the Yukon Huskies.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Because the casinos are here, right On Indian land.
Yep, they had to figure out away to get around betting on the
Huskies.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Oh, okay, do you?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
know what I mean Gotcha.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That's what it was, so it took them forever yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That's why Connecticut was one of the last
states to include this Federally.
It's legal Statewide.
You can choose.
It's legal in all 50 states.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And now they're showing Fandle.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Which is ridiculous, ridiculous.
You cannot sit in a class andtell me I'm a degenerate gambler
, right?
When you're just going to pushit on me Exactly when are the
cigarette commercials?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, I don't see many.
There aren't any.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Nope, nope, they got rid of them.
Yep, they got rid of them,mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Now they replace it with gambling they replace it
with gambling.
Exactly so I'm just addicted tothe oxygen.
Yeah, you can't be accused ofgambling when you're doing all
this.
It's impossible.
They can't do that, they justcan't.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
They weren't necessarily accusing, but they
make you feel like you have aproblem.
They make you second guessyourself.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Okay, which means no, it's pretty much accusing.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
No, which means they want to keep you there.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And who are they to tell me yeah, nobody said I have
a problem with oxygen.
No one has a problem that Ihave a problem with oxygen.
I need it, I can't live withoutit.
You know what I mean?
True story.
And then they pump that shitinto the casinos so you stay
awake, I can't, so fuck youcasino.
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
it's fucked up.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
It is so fucked up when you think about it oxygen
is like the drug they use to getyou there yes, and then they
put you in these classes andtell you you're a bastard for
gambling right, when all youreally want is the oxygen right
it's funny.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It is funny, that is a funny thing.
But yeah, so you're gonna haveto help me with my lineups and
stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You gotta remind me I'm gonna forget I do not have
to help you with anything.
No, I know I gave you theadvice in leadership that you
needed I got I got.
I got you where you needed tobe and now I don't have to help
you at all.
You're an enemy now.
Sink or swim t-bot, figure itout.
Figure it out, or you'regetting the toilet bowl I am.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It's my biggest fear.
No, I do appreciate you helpingme out, though I'm just going
to wing it.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
And I will still help you out.
I know you will.
You know this all ties back tolotto tickets and, like you said
, the Powerball, which is like abillion bucks.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Oh God, yeah, and now forget Gaten.
Gas, oh God, I just went intothe gas station.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I'd rather run out on the side of the road and have
AAA come out because it'll takeless time.
Oh shit, do you know what Imean?
Seriously, I'd rather wait forAAA to come get me and fill up
my tank for me.
It'll be cheaper and quickerthan walking into any gas
station Any store anything.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I went to the packet store.
I was like 15 minutes in there.
I'm like it's usually in andout, in and out.
It's like five people.
I'm like you can't go anywhereelse.
I'll take one of those, andI'll take one of those and I'm
going to get five Powerballs anddo that.
I'm like holy cow, can you justpay for this?
I got to go.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I can't.
I'm stealing this milk.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Fuck you.
I almost wasnoxiously annoyingyes, and they're all gambling,
they're all gambling.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
But they have problems.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
They have problems.
That's what they're tellingthis class, don't?
We all have problems?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Every single fucking person on this planet has a
problem.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Every single person, everyone, yes.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Mine just happens to be oxygen.
I can't get enough of it.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
No, you cannot get enough of it.
I can't get enough of it.
You cannot get enough of it.
That's a true story.
I didn't say a true story.
You suck it out of the airsometimes that you talk so much.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I honestly think we all suck it out of the air.
Good point, but to have thatdude sit in the class and tell
us we have problems.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
He's got a big set there.
That's interesting.
You know what you should havedone.
Do you gamble, Do you play?
You should have said do yougamble?
He did, oh he lost everything.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
No, he was real.
Oh really, yeah, he was real.
He was a real degenerategambler.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Really.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, he relapses, he does it again.
So, yes, he was actual.
He was real, he was a real deal.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
So now he talks about it and tries to tell people not
to do it.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
He tries to help people.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Because he knows how bad it is, which is very noble
of him.
No, that's awesome.
That's awesome, but he sits ina class and makes us feel like
we have fucking problems.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, that's not cool .
No, it's not, he's deflecting.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
No, he's not, you sure.
Yeah, he's the opposite ofdeflecting.
Okay, he's taking what he knowsand saying things to you Trying
to help, but he really believesthat he's helping.
Okay, well then, problem is, hedoesn't know who he's helping.
Oh, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So and he probably really is helping I'm sure I'm
going to err on the side ofcaution here and and he might
help them.
Yeah, you're right.
Yep, I personally just don'thave a problem gambling.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Right, it doesn't affect you either way.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Correct Right.
So the way they present it justmakes you feel bad?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah, of course, and it's not his fault.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Right, it's not his fault.
No, it's built like that.
Yeah, it's like the justicesystem wants you to feel again.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
And again.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
It's so true, and again, and again, and again.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
It's so true.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It's so transparent.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
It's so transparent, right, and you just sit there
like you people are fucked up.
It's definitely not me, it'syou so true.
But I'm the one in the class,right, right, I'm the one in the
class.
What leg do I have to stand on?
You know what I mean?
Nope, it's like oh my God, Idon't do any of this.
I don't do any of this, and youguys are telling me that I do,
(20:05):
and you really believe that whatyou're doing helps.
I know.
And it don't.
I know, and everybody in thoseclasses are like it sucks.
This is awful.
Oh God.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Those are taxpayers at work people.
Yeah, that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Oh no, they're contracted by the state.
Oh, that makes sense now.
Fantastic.
What the fuck Keep them inthere.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
The federal government wants to pay us.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It can't.
Oh my God, it's fuckingterrible.
It's terrible.
Put the hands of God down.
Oh my God, it's fuckingterrible.
It's terrible.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Put the hands together, talk about gambling.
All you do is show fuckingcommercials of gambling.
It's so dumb.
It's so dumb.
Oh my God, this is a mechanismfor just making money.
We should count on SundayFootball.
How many gambling commercialsthere are.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Let's do that, we'll reconvene.
Gambling commercials there are.
Let's do that, we'll reconveneand we'll talk about it.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Let's do that.
Absolutely, I want to actuallyfind out how many, because I'd
be interested now.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
There will be.
Kevin Hart will be on there.
Oh yes, at least.
Probably a fucking thousandtimes, exactly From 1 o'clock in
the afternoon, yep, till 11o'clock at night, when the, when
the Sunday night game's over.
Kevin Hart will be on there atleast 30 times.
I'm going to go with that.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Easily.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Easily Talk about how you can win a lot of money $500
free, $500 free.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
And he's talking about it.
He's a superhero, he's like aHollywood movie star, so let's
go out and do it, because he'stalking about it.
It's Kevin Hart.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Oh my God, it's disgusting.
It actually is disgusting, it'sdisgusting.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
So you're actually enhancing people who already
have a problem, because it's nowKevin Hart's talking about it.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, All right, good marketing.
All you did was pay a bigsuperstar to fucking promote you
so that you could get all thedegenerates that have problems
to gamble, gamble, and then putit in the system.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Twisted, so twisted.
Could you get arrested forgambling?
Uh, no, I don't think so.
Why?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
what would be the I don't know, but you can get
arrested for drinking well,obviously that's an impairment,
that's legal wait.
No gambling is legal.
Yes, drinking is legal.
I can get a dui, but I can geta DUI, but I can't get a DGI
Drunk and gambling idiot.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Wait time out, you can.
Yes, you can, because you'redrunk and you're gambling.
Yes, you can.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I've never heard of anybody getting arrested for
gambling.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
No, I don't think you can.
I think you just get in troublewith whoever you owe money to.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
So what is the problem?
I, whoever you owe money to.
So what is the problem?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I don't know.
Listen, people create fuckingproblems.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You nailed it.
You fucking nailed it.
Yeah, people create problems.
And who are you to tell me Ihave a problem?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And that's how this whole show is supposed to go.
Correct, you can't tell me I doRight, and then interventions
and shit.
Shut the fuck up, get out of mylife.
Well, you don't like what I'mdoing?
Bam Middle finger.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Well, let's not open up that kind of room.
I think interventions are madefor reasons because they may be
hurting people and they want tosee the best for the person, but
that's a whole different thing.
But I don't think that's whatwe're talking about right now.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Who is God here on Earth?
Who?
Is, who is what?
Who is god here on earth?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I don't then you don't have the ability to
fucking judge.
Oh okay, it's like it's likeyour amazon cart oh, here we go.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It's like just judging somebody by their car oh
my god you can't do that okay,well, listen, that's a whole
different story right now.
But I'm just saying that'sinterventions are for people
that have issues.
But you're right, I don't thinkanyone has ever gotten arrested
for gambling.
Why would they arrest you on?
What is the premise Again?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Completely sober coming home from the casino.
Correct, I got pulled overbecause I gambled.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
They labeled me, I lost $200,000 and they pulled me
over.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I didn't report it to the IRS.
Right right exactly.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Well, I mean, I have friends time out.
I have friends who I don't knowhow much they've lost, but they
come home and they tell me ahuge bunch of money.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
That's how you know they're a degenerate gambler,
right?
They don't tell you how muchthey lost.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Well, it's not my business either.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
It's not your business to know how much they
won.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Well, she's my friend .
Speaker 2 (24:24):
They're bragging.
They're bragging to makethemselves feel better.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
No, she basically tells me she loses money all the
time, but she also says whatshe wins.
I'm like okay, but how much didyou lose?
She's like I lost more than Iyou know, or we're ahead right
now or behind, or whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
If you gamble, you're not a winner.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
No, you're right, because you lost.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You lost, you're going to lose.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I know I agree.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's like I'm putting up this year alone in fantasy
football.
I am putting up $375 for mythree leagues, okay.
$375 for my three leagues, okay, which is cheap for fancy
football?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
But $375.
Mm-hmm, I don't know if I'llwin or not.
Right, if I cut that in half,I'm going to be like, oh yeah, I
won $175.
Right, I lost $175.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
No, I agree.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Basically, I broke even, I broke even, you broke
even.
No, you don't break even.
You lost $175.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
That's what it was right.
You didn't win Right.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
If I win the whole thing and I come out on the plus
column, Then you're ahead ofthe game.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Then I'm ahead of the game, correct?
Yeah, if you only won $175, youlost $175.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
20 years of playing fantasy football.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I've won Wait in fantasy football these years
$800 or $900.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Oh, wow, okay, so huh At once.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Oh, one time.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
One time.
No, I've won.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I don't know the total of my winnings for fantasy
football, but for your biggestpot was $900 or something like
that.
What?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I do know, is put $375 times 20.
And that's what I lost.
That's what I fucking lost.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
You gotcha Right.
Yeah, you're right, yep.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
And that's how it works.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
That's how it?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
works.
It doesn't work like oh yeah, Imean, I didn't lose all that
because I won some.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
You just said you did right Right, Right, right,
right.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
But at the end of the day, I didn't win that much.
No, right, every year.
Correct, right, right.
So I lost, yeah, I fucking lost, Right.
But it does make everythingmore fun, more interesting, of
course, right, of course.
So it's a good time, yeah, andit's money I'm willing to give
up.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Right, because you know you're going to do it.
So you give it up, you put itaside, or whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
And yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Like they go every day.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Every day they find random card games and shit.
Yes, just like in small holesin the wall.
You know what I mean.
It's fucked up, but we'll talkabout that next time.
We are getting to the end,we're 27 minutes in Oof and I
feel like we can keep going, butoh yeah, we really didn't make
any point, except for I'maddicted to oxygen, that Oxygen.
(26:54):
That's the only point we madehere Valid point.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
So, Time flies.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
At the end of the day , good luck in your fantasy
football, pools, leagues,whatever.
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Thanks for checking us out,socky2mecom, you know you love
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