April 22, 2025 • 22 mins
Accountability seems to be vanishing in our modern world, and we're tackling this troubling trend head-on. Through personal stories and cultural observations, we explore why so many people refuse to take responsibility for their actions.
The episode opens with a powerful anecdote about a piano recital at age 30, where acknowledging a mistake in front of children created a safe space for everyone to be imperfect. This sets the stage for our conversation about how increasingly rare this simple act of owning our errors has become.
We dissect possible causes behind this accountability crisis – from participation trophies that shield children from the reality of failure to a culture that rewards blame rather than growth. The conversation weaves through compelling parallels to sports, highlighting UConn women's basketball coach Gino Auriemma's team-oriented approach and Michael Jordan's perspective on failure as the foundation for success.
Some of our most thought-provoking insights come during our discussion of parenting. Drawing from expert perspectives, we challenge parents to see themselves as shepherds rather than controllers, guiding children while accepting their inherent nature. This balanced approach fosters accountability without crushing individuality.
Whether you're struggling with taking responsibility in your own life or frustrated by those who won't, this episode offers a refreshing perspective on why owning our mistakes isn't just the right thing to do – it's the pathway to genuine growth and success. Subscribe to join this important conversation and share your thoughts with us!
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey everybody, welcome to Saki Tumi, saki Tumi,
hey everybody, it's Ditto.
Welcome back to Saki, to Me,where we connect people to
people.
Even if you don't want to holdyourself accountable, I'm here
with Casey.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hi everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And we, tonight, we're going to talk about how
people refuse to hold themselvesaccountable for anything they
do.
It's always, it's alwayssomebody else's fault.
When I was 30, I had a pianorecital, my first one.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Way back when huh yeah, it was crazy.
First at age 30.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Okay, my first piano recital was at age 30.
Think about that shit All right.
And my teacher told me that shewanted to put me on first
because I was older than all theother kids.
Actual kids, I'm guessingActual kids, yes, and so I went
out there and I forget what songI was playing, but it was like
Happy Birthday or maybe you hada little lamb or something like
(01:10):
that.
It wasn't, it was like it wassomething big.
Anyway, I messed up.
I messed up in the middle of it.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And I stopped myself and I just looked at the crowd,
I smiled, I waved and I startedall over again, and that set the
tone for the rest of the dayand for the rest of the kids,
where they knew that if theymade a mistake, it wasn't the
end of the world.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Right, it was okay to make a mistake.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I took accountability for what I did, yeah, and I
made everybody feel comfortable,which was one of the biggest
things in my life.
Maybe that was why I was therefor that recital at 30.
I don't know, for that recitalat 30?
I don't know, but it's crazy.
And there are now just peoplein this world that cannot accept
accountability, and it seems tobe coming more and more.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's driving me nuts.
It does seem to be a struggle.
It's blowing my skirt up.
Oh boy, Take that for free.
I mean, nobody wants to admitwhen they're wrong, but it's the
better thing to do.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Why.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It's hard to say you're wrong.
I think about it, but you haveto learn how to do it and
understand that it's going to beokay after the fact I bet you I
can learn how to do it rightnow uh, oh shit, I was wrong, oh
yeah yeah, isn't it, it's thateasy understood oops some people
don't want to do that.
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Every single excuse in the book to sit there and
tell you why they made a mistakeand why it's not their fault.
It's because of something else.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Kind of stems from kids maybe.
Maybe they just don't grow outof that.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I don't know.
I mean, I did when I was a kid.
Now I'm just like yep, messedthat one up.
My bad, Sorry.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, as you get older, I feel like you just find
that it's easier to accept thatyou're wrong and the results
are better.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
No.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
The outcomes are better.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I feel the exact opposite.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
To accept that you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
As people are getting older, it's harder to accept
you're wrong.
You don't want to admit it.
You're trying to keep up thisfacade that you don't make
mistakes, you're perfect andeverything's great.
Right, but you're not.
You make mistakes, just likethe rest of us.
Loser.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Everybody does.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yes.
So why not just be able to say,hey, my bad, screwed that one
up, we'll get them next time,champ, you know what I mean.
Is it fear of failure or somesort of guilt?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Maybe embarrassment.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I don't know.
The embarrassment should be thefact that you won't take
accountability for it andeveryone knows it.
You should be embarrassed onthat.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But does everybody know it?
Maybe people don't think theydo know it.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I do.
If you made a mistake and Iknew you were're wrong, I'd look
at you and you wouldn't admitit.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
You I would you generally, you generally do
admit it.
You're one of the.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You're one of the people that does admit that.
I know what you're saying.
But if you said it and you'relike, no, it was, or it was
because of this, I was like dude, just say you've messed up,
just say that and everything'sall good.
Yeah, no, well, it was because.
No, just say you messed up, oryou made a mistake and you
couldn't do it.
Yeah, then I know you made amistake and you wouldn't do
(04:11):
anything about it.
That's more embarrassing, or atleast should be.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It should be but I don't know.
Some people stick to their gunsand oh I, I didn't mess up.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
There's a reason behind it it's because the wind
blew from left to right insteadof right to left.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Wasn't expecting it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I didn't see that one coming.
Is it low self-worth?
Is it something that happenedin childhood, like childhood
trauma, that does this?
Why can't it?
It seems like it's becomingmore and more.
It's getting harder and harderto get people to at least make a
mistake, and I can't deal withit anymore.
I'm ready to lose it on peopleyeah, I don't part of it.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I wonder is, I mean, look at like the generational
stuff with everything right,everybody's raised differently,
right, we're raised differentlythan our parents and our
grandparents, obviously, and itseems now, as time goes on, kids
have a lot more.
They just just trophies foreverything.
Right, everybody's right foreverything.
They don't want to make theirkid feel bad, so maybe that's
just going on into adulthood andthey don't feel that they have
(05:12):
to own up to anything.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That's a solid point.
I can't stand thoseparticipation trophies.
I can't.
I think it's the dumbest thing.
Competition is uberly necessaryin life, yeah, in order to
understand who wins and wholoses, what's good and what's
bad.
Without it, you don't know, youdon't have goals, right.
Like you don't have goals,you're not nobody's just going
(05:34):
to give you a job.
No, you have to go out thereand win the job, technically
right, yeah, oh well, I gotparticipation trophies when I
was little, so I should just get, I should just get hired, I
should just get hired.
No, that's not the way it works,dude.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Not at all.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Young lady, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And it's terrible, and we are getting worse at this
.
Worse instead of better.
Everybody's entitled toanything they want now.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I know.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It's ugly.
It's not even ugly, it's fugly.
It is fugly, oh god, even thekids today.
I'm like are you serious?
Right now?
I just want to smash you in theface with a brick.
Obviously you can't do thatconstant requests and I need to
have this and I need it.
(06:18):
Everybody has it and the kidsare raising enough nowadays to
just say I'll call dcf.
The hell you will, bro.
Wow, yeah, go ahead, hit me,I'll call dcf, you'll be in
trouble.
Are you serious with this stuff, bro?
Really, bro, is this is thislast bro, bro, because it's it's
driving me insane.
I take accountability foreverything I do wrong.
(06:42):
Not only that, I'll sit therefor like days.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Months.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And think about it.
I'll think about it Like shit,I can't believe I did that.
Oh my God, I don't evenremember the last thing I did
wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Oh boy.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
No, I can't remember the last thing.
It probably happened earliertoday.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Seriously.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I do something wrong all the time, but generally when
I do something wrong I'll lookat you and be like I'm sorry, I
screwed that one up.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
That's true, you do.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Nobody does that to me.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
You cannot say nobody .
I do so.
You can't say nobody.
I know other people that do it.
Are there a lot of people thatdon't Sure, but you can't say
nobody.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Fair enough.
Most I don't want to.
We already said it.
Oh boy, I want to keep movingforward.
I feel like it's lack of rolemodels okay, how so?
Because nobody does it.
You know, you don't see anybodydoing it, like even I don't
know.
I don't want to use people'snames because I don't have that
ready, okay.
But sports stars, right.
(07:41):
They will say, oh yeah, well,could have gone this way, could
have gone that way.
No, just say you didn't hit theball yeah, or you didn't make
the shot.
That's why you lost agree if andso.
This is what we see flopping inbasketball and stuff like that,
like basketball players nowflop and there's a.
They had to make a rule so youcouldn't do it.
(08:02):
It's that bad.
It is Don't Okay, don't evenworry about it.
So last night UConn won thenational championship.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
The women yes, they did.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Three years in a row, by the way.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Oh, UConn.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
UConn won the national championship three
years in a row and Gino Auriemmawas amazing in his
post-interviews post-gameinterviews talked about things
that were real and said thingsthat were poignant.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
And it was.
I was watching it I was like,wow, good for you, gino.
I am not the world's biggestwomen's basketball fan, but I
watched that game because it wasYukon, yeah.
And then I watched Ginoafterwards and, holy cow,
basically that's how you want toact.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, and I think the same way.
He was amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
It was his 12th national championship as a coach
.
He's like I got the first one.
That's the only one I reallyneeded.
The rest of them are all.
He's like they're all for theplayers, it's for them, it's not
for me, it's for them.
They worked, they did this.
I just led them to get here.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I was like attaboy, and did you watch any of those
girls' interviews?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And they all not one of them took oh, I did this, I
did that?
Nope, they all talked abouttheir teammates and how they did
it as a team.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yes, I thought it was impressive, yep, highly
impressive, because it's alwayseasier to blame everything else.
Yeah, like I did not see theSouth Carolina team, I didn't
see their conferences, I didn'tsee their conferences, I didn't
see their postgame interviewsand stuff like that, right, I
(09:40):
didn't think, I don't think theysaid anything bad and they
didn't blame anything.
But blame is always easier.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
So if you lose?
Oh, it was a referee.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
For sure.
Oh, it's because there was arock in the road.
Whatever it is, yeah, you knowwhat I mean, and people most
almost always take comfort overgrowth Like you can't win if you
don't lose.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's impossible.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
And that was one of the things that Gino and Michael
Jordan, by the way have said Imiss more shots than I made.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Nobody cares about all the shots I missed.
They only care about thechampionships I won.
Right, I'm only known for whatI won.
They forget about what I missed, and that's the thing.
And to sit there and have thatthe pessimistic, negative
attitude afterwards and blameeverything else.
Michael jordan said I missedthe shot.
I missed it.
Yeah, there's nothing I can do.
(10:26):
Wasn't anybody else's fault,was mine, exactly right, that's
why he won and that's how youget there.
And what are we teaching thesekids these days?
Nonsense.
Yeah, my understanding is g wonand that's how you get there.
And what are we teaching?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
these kids these days nonsense.
Yeah, my understanding is ginoand that program is very much
team-oriented.
Positivity that they focus onthat and it is not a one-person
show.
Ever I'd heard there was oneperson the last year or two that
didn't go to yukon and myunderstanding is that was why,
because it was a differentmentality I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'm not gonna say who it is.
That was why, because it was adifferent mentality.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I don't understand what you just said.
I'm not going to say who it is,oh, all right, but there was
one person that probably couldhave gone to UConn and my
understanding is they didn'twant her for a specific reason,
because she didn't have thatsame team mentality.
Who knows Rumors for?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
college kids.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Who knows?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
That's literally what sports are all about.
They're all about team Teamwork, learning to be a cohesive unit
.
Yeah, because once you learnthose skills, they're life
skills that never leave you.
And if you can't learn them,you might be the best player.
You might be the best playerever.
You might be Michael Jordan.
Who knows?
Even Michael Jordan had a team,and Michael Jordan will tell
(11:29):
you himself he couldn't havedone it without Scottie Pippen,
right, yeah, and all the otherguys that came in played a role,
and Michael Jordan pushed themto be as best as they could be,
and that's why people hated him,because he's like I'm going to
be this good, you're going to beas good with me.
And that's teamwork.
You hate it, yeah, but at theend of the day, they're like oh,
man, that was a great time inlife, yeah.
(11:51):
And everybody's afraid ofjudgment.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
They feel like if you fail, you're going to get
judged and you're going to staythere.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
No, that's not how it works either, you fucking lost,
and especially when you'reaccountable, you just say, yeah,
I lost that one, I screwed thatone up.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, that's how you learn and grow and get better.
Yeah, and get better.
That's how you win Acceptingthe losses, focusing on working
harder and getting better Right,and that's where you're going
to get.
Otherwise, I have seen so manypeople that I've played sports
with throughout my entire lifethat have just complained about
referees and umpires and whoeverit is, it's always somebody
(12:27):
else's fault.
You know what they amounted to?
Not much.
Absolutely nothing, yeah.
So, and because nobodyself-reflects either yeah, what
did I do wrong?
What was my role in this?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
right.
What could you have donedifferently to make a different
outcome?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
yeah.
How could I have helpedeveryone else around me?
What could I have done better?
No one does that.
I struggle sometimes withpeople in this day and age,
especially in like relationshipsthere's right now it seems like
more less there's one personthat just cannot take
responsibility for their actions.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I believe it's really what's hampering everything,
because everybody feels entitled.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I mean, at this point in time in life you can get
whatever you want whenever youwant.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Pretty much.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Exactly and you can get it when you want it.
It's like, oh, I'll pay for itlater.
We got credit, no big deal, yep.
So it's like everything's righthere at your fingertips and now
you've forgotten how toactually act as a human being.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And put in the hard work.
By the way side note, valKilmer died.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
He did.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Val Kilmer died.
He was one of my favoriteactors.
There are so many stories abouthim now how great he was at
acting and as a person.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Really.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yes, and he went out there and he did his thing.
Sam Elliott told the storywhere, on the movie set of
Tombstone, when they werefilming it on his days off, he
would go to the set and he wouldliterally watch Val Kilmer work
.
Really, yes, because Val Kilmerwas that good and Sam Elliott
wanted to get better.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yes, so we lost a great one.
He had so many good movies.
So we'll take a quick moment ofsilence for Val.
Did you watch that documentary?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And before we do this moment of silence, Tom Cruise
went to the producers of Top GunMaverick.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And made them rewrite the script to make sure that
Val was included in it.
Really, yes, because he didn'twant to be seen in it, that's
pretty cool.
And so he went there and hemade them write a scene for him,
especially the way he wasReally, so that he could have
that last moment.
He's like I need him in this, Iwant him in this, yeah, which I
thought.
I'm not a huge Tom Cruise fan.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I thought that was sweet and like humanitarian.
Yeah, that's awesome, that yougo there and you do this.
And he was like I'm not goingto do this movie if you don't
rewrite this Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And he did I.
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
RIP Val.
All right, I sent you a changethe subject now, but I sent you
a video the other day of aprofessor, yes, that was talking
about children, yes, andraising them.
Right Now, we all know there isno manual on this.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
No, they don't send you home with one of those.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And kids are just little shits.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah.
Right, I was a little shit once.
You still are.
No, I'm a big shit.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
But his point was like my grandparents would tell
my parents that they couldn't dosomething, and if your friends
were doing it?
You know, if your friends werejumping off a bridge, would you
do it too?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
That kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yes, right, and so nobody ever stopped to listen.
It's all about listening.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
So here you are.
We're talking aboutaccountability on this.
Take accountability as a parent, because you don't.
You're either like a helicopterwhere you circle over them and
nothing's everything, everysingle thing in this planet, is
going to hurt them, or you don'tcare at all and they never get
hurt.
But they don't have the familyaspect of everything, right?
So kid comes home from schooland he wants to dye his hair
(15:51):
blue.
What do you say?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I mean, my answer is kind of why would you want to do
that, I guess.
Well, I I'd probably say no,but yeah, that's where I still
want to know why.
Why blue?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
well, that's where all of us have to take a step
back I know we have to take astep back and instead of saying
no, that's stupid, you can't dothat right huh.
Well, why do you want to dothat, right?
Well, I don't feel like I fitin.
You never even asked the kidwhat he thought.
You just said no, you werequick, I do it.
I do it all the time.
And this video set sat there.
(16:25):
I watched it three times.
Wow, sent it to you you did andI was like I really have to
start doing this.
So here I am, holding myselfaccountable for parenting the
way I parent, which probablyisn't the best way to go about
it there's no right or wrong,but there isn't, but still,
there's probably a better waythan I do it, because I'm quick
to shut things down you are, butsome people allow everything to
(16:48):
happen and then you're introuble too.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
So I don't know, I don't know what.
It's hard to know what's rightand wrong with parenting.
It's really all just, I guess.
But this video basically saidthe guy basically says they're
born with what they're born withand it's really our guide, our
job, to just guide them.
It's not our job to preventthem from doing things exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
They're unique to themselves and there's nothing
you are going to do about itRight, exactly.
So sending them to privateschool doesn't fucking matter.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Trying to keep them away from harm doesn't fucking
matter.
They're going to be who they'regoing to be, no matter what,
and you can take pride in thefact that you think you did it,
or you can take pride in thefact that you knew that they
were going to grow up like thatanyway, because that's what's
going to happen.
Was that?
You knew that they were goingto grow up like that anyway,
because that's what's going tohappen?
Was it 400 different geneticcodes?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
That's in there and it's throughout your family.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And they'll all come out at some point.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, and they'll all come out and that you have
absolutely no control over it.
You can't do anything about it.
This is what's going to happen,and screw you.
So don't be pissed if your kidturns out like a jailbird,
because it was going to happenanyway I mean, I think there's
some guidance along the way thatdoes prevent some of those
things.
Well, that's the thing butthat's where you take the
accountability in the whole.
(18:01):
Thing like you want to take them.
Basically, a parent is ashepherd, right?
Right, you just get them frompasture to pasture so they can
learn what's right and what'swrong.
Right, otherwise they're goingto turn out to be who they're
going to be and whateverpastures you lead them to ain't
going to change that.
But if you don't lead them toany pastures and you just let
them run wild, well, you'regonna have problems but that's
(18:24):
you exactly but that's you,because you didn't do that.
you're a shepherd.
You're not going to define theyare, but you're going to help
make them understand how to be abetter person.
Right, and that's all you cando, and that's where we get.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, it's hard, parenting's hard.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Parenting is hard, but I swear to God, everyone
makes it harder than it needs tobe, seriously, and no one will
take account and tell me that'strue.
I've done it and I know youhave.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I've heard you say it .
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, you judge other people's parenting skills.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I think automatically kind of do in times yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Why.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I don't know, it's just, it's hard not to, and I'm
sure people judge me, I'm sure Ijudge myself.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I've judged you.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
The toughest one on me, so yeah, You're not the
toughest one on you.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
You would have changed stuff.
You just want to look likeyou're tough on yourself that's
not necessarily true uh, okay,we'll go with that okay that
sounds right all right oh, thatsounds good, I'll have that yeah
, soup of the day, but raisingchildren isn't easy.
Every single person on thisplanet is different.
(19:31):
Yep, they all have differentneeds, different wants,
different likes, different hatesor dislikes, and you just have
to go with it.
So I have one child, you havetwo I do they play together they
do and we parent them indifferent ways very different
right, which is fine.
Yeah, there was another thingabout mothers oh boy oh yeah
what about them?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
mothers are easy on their children see, I find that
that's opposite with me, I know,but so if you if you look it up
.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
If you look it up, almost every study has ever said
mothers will have to say thingsthree, four, five times.
A father will say it once.
For whatever reason, it's notthat men are better than women
right but it's the nurturing andthe nature of everything.
Like your mother is consoling.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Right, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
They'll yell at you, they'll scream at you, and then
if I were to come home, I'd belike no.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
And they would stop doing it.
Maybe I don't know, I haven'tseen that but maybe For certain
people, probably oh, no, itprobably oh, no, it's it's
proven, but still.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
That being said, we're getting to the end now,
finally finally, because youhave dragged this on a long time
.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Huh tired of talking to me today.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Huh, no, no, but we have to do another one.
We're gonna have the kids on ohboy we're gonna have the kids
on.
We're probably gonna talk aboutthe same stuff about exciting I
might put them together, or atleast in the same day.
So you hear yeah so you hear, Idon't know what going to do.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
But let's see what happens with the boys.
All righty.
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Hey everybody, welcome to Saki Tumi, saki Tumi,
hey everybody, it's Ditto.
Welcome back to Saki, to Me,where we connect people to
people.
Even if you don't want to holdyourself accountable, I'm here
with Casey.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hi everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And we, tonight, we're going to talk about how
people refuse to hold themselvesaccountable for anything they
do.
It's always, it's alwayssomebody else's fault.
When I was 30, I had a pianorecital, my first one.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Way back when huh yeah, it was crazy.
First at age 30.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Okay, my first piano recital was at age 30.
Think about that shit All right.
And my teacher told me that shewanted to put me on first
because I was older than all theother kids.
Actual kids, I'm guessingActual kids, yes, and so I went
out there and I forget what songI was playing, but it was like
Happy Birthday or maybe you hada little lamb or something like
(01:10):
that.
It wasn't, it was like it wassomething big.
Anyway, I messed up.
I messed up in the middle of it.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And I stopped myself and I just looked at the crowd,
I smiled, I waved and I startedall over again, and that set the
tone for the rest of the dayand for the rest of the kids,
where they knew that if theymade a mistake, it wasn't the
end of the world.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Right, it was okay to make a mistake.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I took accountability for what I did, yeah, and I
made everybody feel comfortable,which was one of the biggest
things in my life.
Maybe that was why I was therefor that recital at 30.
I don't know, for that recitalat 30?
I don't know, but it's crazy.
And there are now just peoplein this world that cannot accept
accountability, and it seems tobe coming more and more.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's driving me nuts.
It does seem to be a struggle.
It's blowing my skirt up.
Oh boy, Take that for free.
I mean, nobody wants to admitwhen they're wrong, but it's the
better thing to do.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Why.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It's hard to say you're wrong.
I think about it, but you haveto learn how to do it and
understand that it's going to beokay after the fact I bet you I
can learn how to do it rightnow uh, oh shit, I was wrong, oh
yeah yeah, isn't it, it's thateasy understood oops some people
don't want to do that.
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Every single excuse in the book to sit there and
tell you why they made a mistakeand why it's not their fault.
It's because of something else.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Kind of stems from kids maybe.
Maybe they just don't grow outof that.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I don't know.
I mean, I did when I was a kid.
Now I'm just like yep, messedthat one up.
My bad, Sorry.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, as you get older, I feel like you just find
that it's easier to accept thatyou're wrong and the results
are better.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
No.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
The outcomes are better.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I feel the exact opposite.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
To accept that you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
As people are getting older, it's harder to accept
you're wrong.
You don't want to admit it.
You're trying to keep up thisfacade that you don't make
mistakes, you're perfect andeverything's great.
Right, but you're not.
You make mistakes, just likethe rest of us.
Loser.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Everybody does.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yes.
So why not just be able to say,hey, my bad, screwed that one
up, we'll get them next time,champ, you know what I mean.
Is it fear of failure or somesort of guilt?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Maybe embarrassment.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I don't know.
The embarrassment should be thefact that you won't take
accountability for it andeveryone knows it.
You should be embarrassed onthat.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But does everybody know it?
Maybe people don't think theydo know it.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I do.
If you made a mistake and Iknew you were're wrong, I'd look
at you and you wouldn't admitit.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
You I would you generally, you generally do
admit it.
You're one of the.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You're one of the people that does admit that.
I know what you're saying.
But if you said it and you'relike, no, it was, or it was
because of this, I was like dude, just say you've messed up,
just say that and everything'sall good.
Yeah, no, well, it was because.
No, just say you messed up, oryou made a mistake and you
couldn't do it.
Yeah, then I know you made amistake and you wouldn't do
(04:11):
anything about it.
That's more embarrassing, or atleast should be.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It should be but I don't know.
Some people stick to their gunsand oh I, I didn't mess up.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
There's a reason behind it it's because the wind
blew from left to right insteadof right to left.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Wasn't expecting it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I didn't see that one coming.
Is it low self-worth?
Is it something that happenedin childhood, like childhood
trauma, that does this?
Why can't it?
It seems like it's becomingmore and more.
It's getting harder and harderto get people to at least make a
mistake, and I can't deal withit anymore.
I'm ready to lose it on peopleyeah, I don't part of it.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I wonder is, I mean, look at like the generational
stuff with everything right,everybody's raised differently,
right, we're raised differentlythan our parents and our
grandparents, obviously, and itseems now, as time goes on, kids
have a lot more.
They just just trophies foreverything.
Right, everybody's right foreverything.
They don't want to make theirkid feel bad, so maybe that's
just going on into adulthood andthey don't feel that they have
(05:12):
to own up to anything.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That's a solid point.
I can't stand thoseparticipation trophies.
I can't.
I think it's the dumbest thing.
Competition is uberly necessaryin life, yeah, in order to
understand who wins and wholoses, what's good and what's
bad.
Without it, you don't know, youdon't have goals, right.
Like you don't have goals,you're not nobody's just going
(05:34):
to give you a job.
No, you have to go out thereand win the job, technically
right, yeah, oh well, I gotparticipation trophies when I
was little, so I should just get, I should just get hired, I
should just get hired.
No, that's not the way it works,dude.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Not at all.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Young lady, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And it's terrible, and we are getting worse at this
.
Worse instead of better.
Everybody's entitled toanything they want now.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I know.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It's ugly.
It's not even ugly, it's fugly.
It is fugly, oh god, even thekids today.
I'm like are you serious?
Right now?
I just want to smash you in theface with a brick.
Obviously you can't do thatconstant requests and I need to
have this and I need it.
(06:18):
Everybody has it and the kidsare raising enough nowadays to
just say I'll call dcf.
The hell you will, bro.
Wow, yeah, go ahead, hit me,I'll call dcf, you'll be in
trouble.
Are you serious with this stuff, bro?
Really, bro, is this is thislast bro, bro, because it's it's
driving me insane.
I take accountability foreverything I do wrong.
(06:42):
Not only that, I'll sit therefor like days.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Months.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And think about it.
I'll think about it Like shit,I can't believe I did that.
Oh my God, I don't evenremember the last thing I did
wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Oh boy.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
No, I can't remember the last thing.
It probably happened earliertoday.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Seriously.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I do something wrong all the time, but generally when
I do something wrong I'll lookat you and be like I'm sorry, I
screwed that one up.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
That's true, you do.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Nobody does that to me.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
You cannot say nobody .
I do so.
You can't say nobody.
I know other people that do it.
Are there a lot of people thatdon't Sure, but you can't say
nobody.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Fair enough.
Most I don't want to.
We already said it.
Oh boy, I want to keep movingforward.
I feel like it's lack of rolemodels okay, how so?
Because nobody does it.
You know, you don't see anybodydoing it, like even I don't
know.
I don't want to use people'snames because I don't have that
ready, okay.
But sports stars, right.
(07:41):
They will say, oh yeah, well,could have gone this way, could
have gone that way.
No, just say you didn't hit theball yeah, or you didn't make
the shot.
That's why you lost agree if andso.
This is what we see flopping inbasketball and stuff like that,
like basketball players nowflop and there's a.
They had to make a rule so youcouldn't do it.
(08:02):
It's that bad.
It is Don't Okay, don't evenworry about it.
So last night UConn won thenational championship.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
The women yes, they did.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Three years in a row, by the way.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Oh, UConn.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
UConn won the national championship three
years in a row and Gino Auriemmawas amazing in his
post-interviews post-gameinterviews talked about things
that were real and said thingsthat were poignant.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
And it was.
I was watching it I was like,wow, good for you, gino.
I am not the world's biggestwomen's basketball fan, but I
watched that game because it wasYukon, yeah.
And then I watched Ginoafterwards and, holy cow,
basically that's how you want toact.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, and I think the same way.
He was amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
It was his 12th national championship as a coach
.
He's like I got the first one.
That's the only one I reallyneeded.
The rest of them are all.
He's like they're all for theplayers, it's for them, it's not
for me, it's for them.
They worked, they did this.
I just led them to get here.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I was like attaboy, and did you watch any of those
girls' interviews?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And they all not one of them took oh, I did this, I
did that?
Nope, they all talked abouttheir teammates and how they did
it as a team.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yes, I thought it was impressive, yep, highly
impressive, because it's alwayseasier to blame everything else.
Yeah, like I did not see theSouth Carolina team, I didn't
see their conferences, I didn'tsee their conferences, I didn't
see their postgame interviewsand stuff like that, right, I
(09:40):
didn't think, I don't think theysaid anything bad and they
didn't blame anything.
But blame is always easier.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
So if you lose?
Oh, it was a referee.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
For sure.
Oh, it's because there was arock in the road.
Whatever it is, yeah, you knowwhat I mean, and people most
almost always take comfort overgrowth Like you can't win if you
don't lose.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's impossible.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
And that was one of the things that Gino and Michael
Jordan, by the way have said Imiss more shots than I made.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Nobody cares about all the shots I missed.
They only care about thechampionships I won.
Right, I'm only known for whatI won.
They forget about what I missed, and that's the thing.
And to sit there and have thatthe pessimistic, negative
attitude afterwards and blameeverything else.
Michael jordan said I missedthe shot.
I missed it.
Yeah, there's nothing I can do.
(10:26):
Wasn't anybody else's fault,was mine, exactly right, that's
why he won and that's how youget there.
And what are we teaching thesekids these days?
Nonsense.
Yeah, my understanding is g wonand that's how you get there.
And what are we teaching?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
these kids these days nonsense.
Yeah, my understanding is ginoand that program is very much
team-oriented.
Positivity that they focus onthat and it is not a one-person
show.
Ever I'd heard there was oneperson the last year or two that
didn't go to yukon and myunderstanding is that was why,
because it was a differentmentality I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'm not gonna say who it is.
That was why, because it was adifferent mentality.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I don't understand what you just said.
I'm not going to say who it is,oh, all right, but there was
one person that probably couldhave gone to UConn and my
understanding is they didn'twant her for a specific reason,
because she didn't have thatsame team mentality.
Who knows Rumors for?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
college kids.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Who knows?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
That's literally what sports are all about.
They're all about team Teamwork, learning to be a cohesive unit
.
Yeah, because once you learnthose skills, they're life
skills that never leave you.
And if you can't learn them,you might be the best player.
You might be the best playerever.
You might be Michael Jordan.
Who knows?
Even Michael Jordan had a team,and Michael Jordan will tell
(11:29):
you himself he couldn't havedone it without Scottie Pippen,
right, yeah, and all the otherguys that came in played a role,
and Michael Jordan pushed themto be as best as they could be,
and that's why people hated him,because he's like I'm going to
be this good, you're going to beas good with me.
And that's teamwork.
You hate it, yeah, but at theend of the day, they're like oh,
man, that was a great time inlife, yeah.
(11:51):
And everybody's afraid ofjudgment.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
They feel like if you fail, you're going to get
judged and you're going to staythere.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
No, that's not how it works either, you fucking lost,
and especially when you'reaccountable, you just say, yeah,
I lost that one, I screwed thatone up.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, that's how you learn and grow and get better.
Yeah, and get better.
That's how you win Acceptingthe losses, focusing on working
harder and getting better Right,and that's where you're going
to get.
Otherwise, I have seen so manypeople that I've played sports
with throughout my entire lifethat have just complained about
referees and umpires and whoeverit is, it's always somebody
(12:27):
else's fault.
You know what they amounted to?
Not much.
Absolutely nothing, yeah.
So, and because nobodyself-reflects either yeah, what
did I do wrong?
What was my role in this?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
right.
What could you have donedifferently to make a different
outcome?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
yeah.
How could I have helpedeveryone else around me?
What could I have done better?
No one does that.
I struggle sometimes withpeople in this day and age,
especially in like relationshipsthere's right now it seems like
more less there's one personthat just cannot take
responsibility for their actions.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I believe it's really what's hampering everything,
because everybody feels entitled.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I mean, at this point in time in life you can get
whatever you want whenever youwant.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Pretty much.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Exactly and you can get it when you want it.
It's like, oh, I'll pay for itlater.
We got credit, no big deal, yep.
So it's like everything's righthere at your fingertips and now
you've forgotten how toactually act as a human being.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And put in the hard work.
By the way side note, valKilmer died.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
He did.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Val Kilmer died.
He was one of my favoriteactors.
There are so many stories abouthim now how great he was at
acting and as a person.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Really.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yes, and he went out there and he did his thing.
Sam Elliott told the storywhere, on the movie set of
Tombstone, when they werefilming it on his days off, he
would go to the set and he wouldliterally watch Val Kilmer work
.
Really, yes, because Val Kilmerwas that good and Sam Elliott
wanted to get better.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yes, so we lost a great one.
He had so many good movies.
So we'll take a quick moment ofsilence for Val.
Did you watch that documentary?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And before we do this moment of silence, Tom Cruise
went to the producers of Top GunMaverick.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And made them rewrite the script to make sure that
Val was included in it.
Really, yes, because he didn'twant to be seen in it, that's
pretty cool.
And so he went there and hemade them write a scene for him,
especially the way he wasReally, so that he could have
that last moment.
He's like I need him in this, Iwant him in this, yeah, which I
thought.
I'm not a huge Tom Cruise fan.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I thought that was sweet and like humanitarian.
Yeah, that's awesome, that yougo there and you do this.
And he was like I'm not goingto do this movie if you don't
rewrite this Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And he did I.
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
RIP Val.
All right, I sent you a changethe subject now, but I sent you
a video the other day of aprofessor, yes, that was talking
about children, yes, andraising them.
Right Now, we all know there isno manual on this.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
No, they don't send you home with one of those.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And kids are just little shits.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah.
Right, I was a little shit once.
You still are.
No, I'm a big shit.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
But his point was like my grandparents would tell
my parents that they couldn't dosomething, and if your friends
were doing it?
You know, if your friends werejumping off a bridge, would you
do it too?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
That kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yes, right, and so nobody ever stopped to listen.
It's all about listening.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
So here you are.
We're talking aboutaccountability on this.
Take accountability as a parent, because you don't.
You're either like a helicopterwhere you circle over them and
nothing's everything, everysingle thing in this planet, is
going to hurt them, or you don'tcare at all and they never get
hurt.
But they don't have the familyaspect of everything, right?
So kid comes home from schooland he wants to dye his hair
(15:51):
blue.
What do you say?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I mean, my answer is kind of why would you want to do
that, I guess.
Well, I I'd probably say no,but yeah, that's where I still
want to know why.
Why blue?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
well, that's where all of us have to take a step
back I know we have to take astep back and instead of saying
no, that's stupid, you can't dothat right huh.
Well, why do you want to dothat, right?
Well, I don't feel like I fitin.
You never even asked the kidwhat he thought.
You just said no, you werequick, I do it.
I do it all the time.
And this video set sat there.
(16:25):
I watched it three times.
Wow, sent it to you you did andI was like I really have to
start doing this.
So here I am, holding myselfaccountable for parenting the
way I parent, which probablyisn't the best way to go about
it there's no right or wrong,but there isn't, but still,
there's probably a better waythan I do it, because I'm quick
to shut things down you are, butsome people allow everything to
(16:48):
happen and then you're introuble too.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
So I don't know, I don't know what.
It's hard to know what's rightand wrong with parenting.
It's really all just, I guess.
But this video basically saidthe guy basically says they're
born with what they're born withand it's really our guide, our
job, to just guide them.
It's not our job to preventthem from doing things exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
They're unique to themselves and there's nothing
you are going to do about itRight, exactly.
So sending them to privateschool doesn't fucking matter.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Trying to keep them away from harm doesn't fucking
matter.
They're going to be who they'regoing to be, no matter what,
and you can take pride in thefact that you think you did it,
or you can take pride in thefact that you knew that they
were going to grow up like thatanyway, because that's what's
going to happen.
Was that?
You knew that they were goingto grow up like that anyway,
because that's what's going tohappen?
Was it 400 different geneticcodes?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
That's in there and it's throughout your family.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And they'll all come out at some point.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, and they'll all come out and that you have
absolutely no control over it.
You can't do anything about it.
This is what's going to happen,and screw you.
So don't be pissed if your kidturns out like a jailbird,
because it was going to happenanyway I mean, I think there's
some guidance along the way thatdoes prevent some of those
things.
Well, that's the thing butthat's where you take the
accountability in the whole.
(18:01):
Thing like you want to take them.
Basically, a parent is ashepherd, right?
Right, you just get them frompasture to pasture so they can
learn what's right and what'swrong.
Right, otherwise they're goingto turn out to be who they're
going to be and whateverpastures you lead them to ain't
going to change that.
But if you don't lead them toany pastures and you just let
them run wild, well, you'regonna have problems but that's
(18:24):
you exactly but that's you,because you didn't do that.
you're a shepherd.
You're not going to define theyare, but you're going to help
make them understand how to be abetter person.
Right, and that's all you cando, and that's where we get.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, it's hard, parenting's hard.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Parenting is hard, but I swear to God, everyone
makes it harder than it needs tobe, seriously, and no one will
take account and tell me that'strue.
I've done it and I know youhave.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I've heard you say it .
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, you judge other people's parenting skills.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I think automatically kind of do in times yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Why.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I don't know, it's just, it's hard not to, and I'm
sure people judge me, I'm sure Ijudge myself.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I've judged you.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
The toughest one on me, so yeah, You're not the
toughest one on you.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
You would have changed stuff.
You just want to look likeyou're tough on yourself that's
not necessarily true uh, okay,we'll go with that okay that
sounds right all right oh, thatsounds good, I'll have that yeah
, soup of the day, but raisingchildren isn't easy.
Every single person on thisplanet is different.
(19:31):
Yep, they all have differentneeds, different wants,
different likes, different hatesor dislikes, and you just have
to go with it.
So I have one child, you havetwo I do they play together they
do and we parent them indifferent ways very different
right, which is fine.
Yeah, there was another thingabout mothers oh boy oh yeah
what about them?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
mothers are easy on their children see, I find that
that's opposite with me, I know,but so if you if you look it up
.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
If you look it up, almost every study has ever said
mothers will have to say thingsthree, four, five times.
A father will say it once.
For whatever reason, it's notthat men are better than women
right but it's the nurturing andthe nature of everything.
Like your mother is consoling.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Right, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
They'll yell at you, they'll scream at you, and then
if I were to come home, I'd belike no.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
And they would stop doing it.
Maybe I don't know, I haven'tseen that but maybe For certain
people, probably oh, no, itprobably oh, no, it's it's
proven, but still.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
That being said, we're getting to the end now,
finally finally, because youhave dragged this on a long time
.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Huh tired of talking to me today.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Huh, no, no, but we have to do another one.
We're gonna have the kids on ohboy we're gonna have the kids
on.
We're probably gonna talk aboutthe same stuff about exciting I
might put them together, or atleast in the same day.
So you hear yeah so you hear, Idon't know what going to do.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
But let's see what happens with the boys.
All righty.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
All right Case.
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