July 19, 2023 • 31 mins
In this episode, Dr. Makeba is joined by her friends Kadijah Kemp, Tiffany Grant, Camron Shelton, and Tommy Fur’qan Washington, as they explore the topic of trusting your intuition, specifically the inner voice or gut feeling.
The group discusses the importance of listening to your inner voice and the challenge of distinguishing between the voice of intuition and other influences, such as fear or doubt. Each guest shares a moment when they ignored their gut feeling and the consequences that followed. They reflect on the lessons learned from these experiences.
While listening to this episode, you are encouraged to:
· Reflect on your own experiences of ignoring or trusting your intuition.
· Consider the impact of cultural and personal traumas on your ability to trust your gut feelings.
You are being called to embrace the power of your intuition and actively listen to your inner voice. Take time to reflect on past experiences and learn from moments when you ignored your gut feeling. Practice trusting your intuition in everyday life to cultivate a deeper sense of self-awareness and alignment with your true path.
About this episode’s guests:
Kadijah is an educator, professional counselor, and healer who strives to be a beacon of light to advocate against gun violence as well as educate, uplift, and heal traumas. Tiffany is a professional counselor and reiki practitioner who uses energy work to help individuals develop better cognitive and emotional skills to be their best and connect with their highest selves. Camron is an artist, entrepreneur, and wellness coach who is on an accelerated path of ascension. And, Tommy Fu’rqan is an emerging energy and artist who serves as a case worker, care manager, and “unlicensed nurse”. Together, they form a powerful collective ready to share their light and knowledge with the world.
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opem (00:00):
Bridge to Nairobi.
Bridge to Nairobi.
Jah, Show us the light.
This movement phonetic.
The chi is kinetic.
You know what's up.
We just leveling up.
Eternal life.
Children of light.
Blessings upon you the truth andthe pride.
Women heal Earth.
Cherish your worth.
Get us back on track likerebirth.
Dr. Makeba (00:22):
Welcome to Sol Social with Dr.
Makeba and Friends, the soulnourishing podcast that takes
you on a journey of spiritualityself-discovery and healing.
I'm Dr.
Makeba, and I'm thrilled to beyour guide on this metamorphic
path toward embracing yourpurpose, trusting your intuition
and igniting your inner light.
(00:42):
In this episode, I'm joined by acouple of old friends and a
couple of new friends who eachstrive to make a positive impact
in every life they touch.
We have Khadija Kemp aneducator, professional counselor
and healer who advocates againstgun violence and helps to heal
traumas.
Tiffany Grant, a licensedprofessional counselor as well,
(01:05):
and a Reiki practitioner whohelps individuals connect with
their highest selves throughtraditional counseling, coupled
with energy work.
We have Camron Shelton anartist, entrepreneur, and
wellness coach.
And last but not least, TommyFu'rqan Washington, an emerging
energy, artist, andcompassionate caregiver.
(01:26):
Join us as we aim to shed lighton the importance of trusting
your inner voice As you listento this episode, I invite you to
reflect on your own experiencesof ignoring or trusting your
intuition, your gut feeling,that voice in your head.
While doing so consider theimpact of cultural and personal
(01:46):
traumas on your ability tolisten to that voice.
Alright?
Let's talk.
Hello, hello, hello.
This is Dr.
Makeba and I'm super excitedabout this topic today because
we are talking about listeningand trusting your gut, your
(02:07):
intuition.
That voice of God in your head.
It's very hard sometimes whenyou don't have physical proof,
physical evidence when you'rebeating up on yourself to really
figure out if this is the devilon your shoulder or the angel on
your shoulder.
So we are gonna have a chatabout that with some of my
really, good friends.
(02:28):
Everybody on the show today hasa story for you about that voice
in their head that sometimesthey just don't trust.
But we know what happens when wedon't trust that voice, and
we're gonna talk about that.
Kadijah, please introduceyourself.
Kadijah (02:42):
My name's Kadijah Kemp and I am an educator at D.C.P.S.
And I go way back with Dr.
Makeba all the way back to highschool and scooping
Dr. Makeba (02:54):
ice cream at Baskin-Robbins I was gonna say,
and Baskin-Robbins.
Kadijah (02:58):
She's my manager.
So we go way, way back to teenyears and I'm happy to be here.
Dr. Makeba (03:03):
I'm happy to have you.
She's just such a beautifulspirit.
She's been through a lot andshe's come a long way, so I'm
really happy to have her with ustoday.
Tiffany, please introduceyourself.
Tiffany (03:14):
Well, hello, I am Tiffany Grant.
I'm a licensed professionalcounselor.
I work at the VA with veterans,and I also work at a private
practice, so I do individualcouples and group counseling.
I'm really enjoying this space.
I'm looking forward to thisconversation and I'm glad be
here.
Dr. Makeba (03:31):
I'm so glad to have you.
This young lady here leads withher heart.
She's got the biggest, sweetestheart and I'm so glad to know
her.
Camron, go ahead and introduceyourself.
Camron (03:42):
All right.
My name is Camron Shelton.
I'm 20 years old.
I'm an audio engineer, aproducer, poet, artist, rapper,
singer, everything.
I play the keyboard, I play theclarinet, and I'm learning how
to play the acoustic guitar.
Any genre there is I make musicin that.
I was in school, but I'm notschool anymore.
I work at Delta.
(04:02):
Me and Ms.
Makeba, actually met throughReiki and I learned how to do
reiki through her.
Dr. Makeba (04:08):
That's right.
Reiki was my introduction tospirituality because it got me
connected to the energy bodythat's in me.
I definitely recommend it to allof y'all out there in the world.
Learn it, even if it's justself-care, cuz it really helps
to open you up and keep youbalanced.
I would add just one more thingabout Camron.
(04:29):
He is so smart that he was like,high school.
I'm done.
I'm not doing you for too long.
He got it done real quick.
How quick did you get highschool done One year.
One year,
Tommy-Furqan (04:43):
What! You was out and you were like, Nope,
Dr. Makeba (04:47):
and we've talked about this on our previous shows
that Claircognizance is a thing.
It's a clear knowing and thisyoung man knows a lot so he's
able to get through things, askgood, good questions.
I admire him and I'm so happythat he is embracing his
spirituality and running withit.
(05:09):
He is a superstar.
Camron (05:10):
To expand on what you said, I'm not trying to brag but
when I was in third grade, I wasalready reading on a eighth
grade level and I read theAlmanac.
I started reading almanacs backthen.
I read the almanac for 2008 and2009, which I have right here
actually.
Tommy-Furqan (05:24):
Almanacs are fun to read.
I read every almanac back in1989 and 1990.
If you read Almanacs then you'rea nerd.
That's good with me.
Dr. Makeba (05:32):
Tommy Fu'rquan Washington, please.
Last but not least, pleaseintroduce
Tommy-Furqan (05:37):
yourself Okay.
Yo, I am Tommy Fu'rquanWashington, also known as Fu.
Everybody calls me Fu.
I've known Makeba, she's an HBCUfriend.
She's FAMU and I'm an Aggie andI met her through my Aggie
friends right after undergrad inAtlanta.
I am going on a spiritual pathwhere I am rebuilding myself.
(06:01):
Makeba was around to watch myearly rise in career.
I used to work in media,producer, editor, writer, poet
but I was trapped in a lot ofmisery and a lot of hurt and a
lot of pain, and I've had acomplete breakdown.
I had 10 years of darkness aswell and now I'm rebuilding my
life.
(06:22):
I work with intellectuallydisabled men.
I am a case worker, caremanager, unlicensed nurse.
I love these guys.
They help me recover.
I'm also trying to decide am Igonna go to a nurse pract.
route?
Am I going back in the media?
I don't know.
I'm opening myself up to theuniverse and I'm letting it
decide.
(06:43):
There's a lot of spiritualthings that are happening for me
right now in downloads.
Honestly, I don't even know whatreiki is because I always heard
people who aren't on this calltalking about reiki.
You know what I mean by that?
When I was experiencing yoga.
It was hard to learn yoga fromwhite people, let's just say
that.
And so I couldn't do reikilearning from white people.
(07:05):
I'm like, yoga, this is not yourculture.
Why are you telling me this?
Dr. Makeba (07:08):
Hold on, hold on.
We don't wanna exclude anypeople.
We don't wanna exclude whitepeople.
There, there is a thing, and Ihear this a lot from people of
color talking about going toenergy healers, reiki
practitioners, any kind ofhealer.
It's not a black and whitething.
It's really an energetic thingbecause you can sense energy
(07:29):
when you walk into the room,when you meet a person, when you
feel, and you know who's got thegood energy that you wanna work
with and who doesn't.
So we wanna try to focus on theenergy.
So, I understand culturally thatAmericans teaching yoga is not
the tradition.
(07:49):
Right?
We didn't create it.
So it's harder to take it.
Tommy-Furqan (07:52):
It's hard when trying to go into those spaces,
cuz that's the thing is alsorecovering from going into a
traumatic space where it wasn'tthis way.
And trying to get from thattrauma where I can open myself
up again to hear everybody.
Because sometimes when we gointo those spaces, we experience
trauma based on our identity andour cultural heritage and that's
more what I'm talking about.
(08:13):
You know, it's a trust factor.
It's an ease and trust.
Dr. Makeba (08:17):
Right, right.
I'd like each of you to share amoment when you didn't listen to
your gut, tell us a little bitabout that, what happened and
what'd you learned from it.
My example is with my marriage.
(08:38):
I won't go into too manydetails, but I'll say simply
that I kind of had a feelinggoing in that I probably
shouldn't do it.
I was young, not that young.
I was approaching 30, which is apivotal point in time for a
(09:01):
young lady because you'rethinking your biological clock
is ticking.
You're willing to kind ofcompromise a little bit on what
you're looking for.
And when I met my ex-husband Ineeded a companion, a
relationship I had just gottenout of a relationship that was
everything to me.
(09:22):
It was extreme love andaffection and all that stuff and
we broke up.
What I was looking for was amore mature love I thought.
When we were dating, he neverdeclared me as his girlfriend,
which I thought was weird anddidn't feel right?
And then I got pregnant and thenwe got engaged and we got
married.
(09:42):
During that whole period I washearing things and feeling
things in my gut like, thisisn't right.
Maybe you shouldn't do this ordon't do it.
And I was in my head like, who'ssaying this?
Is it me the doubter?
Or is it truly my angels tryingto protect me from something
(10:05):
that could harm me in the longrun?
It took me 18 years.
19 years, really.
If you count the time that wewere dating to truly figure out
that I should have listened tothat voice because I was right
(10:27):
and nothing changed.
It was a consistent kind of notquite good feeling for that
whole time.
So I've learned to listen.
It took me a long time, but Ilearned to listen and to trust.
(10:47):
I would like to hear what youall have to say.
Tommy-Furqan (10:50):
So mine, it's very recent and I'm still going
through it.
Now, I don't know if it were menot listening to my inner voice
or if it were just a warning.
It's changing day by day.
I'm a avid scooter and biker inNew York.
I love riding scooter.
I may be about to do some thingson social media with doing that.
(11:11):
I ride a scooter, like asnowboarder.
I'm crazy.
I do a lot of things inManhattan.
It's fun.
So I'm leaving work the othermorning.
I work overnight, 14 hours.
I just want to get to thesubway, and go home to go to
sleep.
And that is all I was focusedon.
So I pulled out of the driveway,did a crazy u-turn, like a
snowboarder, and I slipped andfell on the leaves after a fresh
(11:35):
rain on top of oil.
And the way I was turning wasreally tight.
So the scooter went like thisand slammed me into the ground.
And when I hit the ground, Iknocked out my tooth because my
face took all the impact So Ihave one tooth and my front
mouth.
Now I'm toothless.
(11:55):
What wound up happening is a fewdays before that, I busted that
move a few times.
I almost fell twice doing thatmove of the prior week.
I also noticed all the leaves onthe ground like a week before.
I'm part of this Reddit group.
Everyone's talking about howmuch the leaves are on the
ground, how many leaves there,and how scared everyone is.
(12:17):
I didn't listen.
I'm still doing that move.
As a matter of fact, I almostlike really wiped out in front
of my own house with kids on theplayground and I still, and I
recovered.
But I just wanted to get homeand I wanted to go.
And a little backstory I havealways had dental issues.
I've always had spacing and it'salways been my albatross.
I never did on camera thingsbecause I was scared about my
(12:39):
teeth.
Kids used to call me the GapBand and say, you dropped the
bomb on me when I was a littlekid.
I had trauma years over years,and people kept joking me about
it.
Then after I had my breakdown,they didn't have insurance
anymore.
I went to a dentist and shesnatched both my teeth out when
a porcelain fell out.
So everything shifted.
So long story short, I've beenavoiding this forever.
(13:01):
My dental issues are the lastthing I wanted to deal with
right now.
I had a plan.
It was my feet, my stomach, myteeth.
I'm on my feet we're done.
I wasn't ready for this yet.
What I'm thinking now is atfirst, I wasn't listening to my
intuition, but perhaps this wasjust my spirit and my ancestors
warning me that you're about tohave to deal with something that
you haven't wanted to deal withyour whole life.
(13:24):
You're about to have to dealwith something that has held you
back from day one.
This was bigger than race.
This was bigger than my gender.
This is bigger than anything.
This stopped me all mypotential.
I mean, when I worked in media,I could have easily been in
front of the camera.
People told me to do it.
I worked in radio.
I have a radio voice.
I wanted to be in front of thecamera, but I let my own fear
(13:45):
around my dental issues stop meand then I let my fear of the
financial cost stopped mebecause that was the other fear.
But the other morning, when Isaw my tooth on the pavement, I
sat there and, and I started tounravel, I knew instantly that I
gotta deal with this right now.
Because there was no otheroption.
And the spiritual world had mein the right place because I
(14:07):
didn't wipe out at home becauseI would've ran in my house,
closed my curtains, text my job,called off, text more people,
canceled, and I may have beengoing back into my maladaptive
behavior because that was myprimary emotional trigger.
So God had me at work with oneof my temps who I just had an
(14:28):
argument with.
I literally just went in on thiswoman and this person had to
show me kindness.
She saw me at my weakest, mostvulnerable emotional point.
I had to get it together in 90seconds, cuz the next thing I
did was pull out my laptop andlook for an emergency dental ER.
So now I'm getting an implant intwo weeks.
I don't know how the money's I'mgonna do the money.
I don't know.
(14:48):
I don't care.
I'm trusting in the universeit's gonna.
And things have been going wellfor me.
I'm trusting.
Dr. Makeba (14:54):
And the other piece is that you are on camera with a
missing tooth.
Right.
That's why
Tommy-Furqan (14:59):
I did it.
That's why I'm here.
You pressed me for this Look, wespoke about this and then you
asked me to do it this week.
You are you serious right now Ihave other zoom commitments and
the other zoom commitments havebeen done just like that.
You actually got me on hereright now, so, and I spoke about
this too cuz I used this as anopportunity to work through and
(15:20):
elevate and narrate my trauma.
Cause the more I narrate thistrauma, the better, the more
it's healing and spiritually.
I think it was a warning becauseI'm free.
Oh my God.
I'm free.
This thing that I've been scaredof.
I was in the dentist.
Yeah, I'm in there now.
Might as well deal witheverything.
And now this is how I can be onthe camera now because I got
(15:42):
slammed to the ground andsometimes the ancestors gotta
slap me.
You can kinda see I'm that guy.
I feel it like it was a warningbecause it was like they're
warning me that you better getyour mind right.
You told me to rest up twoweekends ago, so I don't know
what's coming.
This is just part of thejourney.
Dr. Makeba (15:58):
I love this.
I love this because when wespoke earlier this week, the
conversation was different.
Right.
It's evolving.
Very different.
It evolves.
And so we get these messagesfrom God, from the spirits, from
our ancestors, and we don'talways know what they mean, but
we have to understand thatthings happen for a reason.
(16:18):
And one of the reasons I'm notmad at my ex-husband is because
I know that marriage happenedfor a reason.
There was a lesson to be had,like I should have listened to
my gut and had I known what Iknow now, I wouldn't have gotten
to that situation, but I knowthat I got in that marriage
because I need to be able toteach people not to do that, to
(16:39):
listen to their guts.
You know what I mean?
So, alright.
We're gonna move on to our nextguest.
Tiffany (16:46):
I'll go next.
I was single for a year.
I didn't want to date oranything, and then my best
friend passed.
I was going through a lot.
I met this gentleman and whilewe were talking my intuition
kept saying, Don't do it.
Don't pursue him.
But then in my mind, I'm like,well, he's cutes I was just
putting things on paper.
Sometimes I look at it like isit my intuition or is it fear?
(17:09):
Because I was not in arelationship for a year and then
the relationship before was likethree years and I'm like, okay,
am I just fearing going intorelationships.
So I kind of chopped it up, oh,just fear.
I'm gonna prove to the worldthat I'm not scared.
Fast forward, the relationshipwas a lot.
A lot of stress.
I had to put some color in myhair cause ended up getting gray
hair, you, show that gray girl
Dr. Makeba (17:28):
show that gray.
Tiffany (17:30):
I would say before I started dating him, I didn't
have much gray, but then afterit, I was just, it was a lot of
gray up there.
It was a lot of stress.
It led to me to start drinking.
So I did a lot of self soothing.
Mm.
And my gut, my intuition justkept saying, you need to leave I
mean, it wasn't like abusive oranything like that, but it's
just like, we just didn't clash.
(17:53):
So fast forward.
Now mind you, I'm 40 and neverbeen married.
So this year I found out he wentto my parents and asked for my
hand and marriage.
So I'm like, I'm just soexcited.
But then my intuitions like,Nope, don't do it.
I'm like, no.
Well, maybe I'm just afraidbecause I've never been married
before.
Yeah, yeah.
(18:13):
So I'm just, I just kept, Imean, it was so strong.
They like, don't do it.
Don't do it.
I'm like, no.
I just kick it off as fear, youknow, I'm just, I'm just a
little afraid.
It just, it's what it, I'venever been married so I can
understand.
I could tell that my spirit teamreally didn't want me to marry
him because we had a dogtogether, and the dog and I,
both got attacked by a pit bullwhile I was walking him.
(18:34):
He was six weeks old.
During that time he wasn't therefor me and everything just went
downhill.
So looking back now I'm gladthat they intervened because I
feel like they're like there'ssomething bigger and better out
there and we don't want youthere.
But then I looked at'em like,okay, I should've listened to my
gut is it wasn't fear, it was myinner voice telling me not to
(18:57):
move forward.
I'm not upset about notlistening to it because it led
me into my spiritual journey.
It led me into establishing newfriendships and just be able to
learn more about me and, and myreason for being here.
I'm not knocking it, but if Iwould've listened to my gut,
what would that journey looklike?
Or what would that look like ifI wouldn't?
Dr. Makeba (19:17):
Yeah, it just affirms the power of the gut and
the intuition and the connectionwith the spirit world.
Because they do really try toconnect with us and we have to
try to listen a little bit more,a little bit closer and have
conversations with the spiritsand be like, what is the
problem?
Tiffany (19:38):
Oh, now me and my spirit team talk every day.
It's even to the point where Iremember another thing and I'll
be done.
So I bought another Amazonitebracelet cause the other one
broke.
And then my intuition wastelling me, give it to your
sister.
I was like, oh, it's so pretty.
Give it to your sister.
So I was like, well, lemme justhold on for another day.
Well, one thing I've learned isthat whenever I don't follow it,
(20:03):
I always stub my right toe.
So then, I looked it up and Iprayed, and then is like, you
need to listen.
So once I gave it to her, Ididn't have anymore issues.
You know, so I'm learning totrust.
Also the whole thing with myrelationship, I would stub my
toe all the time.
And I remember there was thislady, she did reiki and I think
she was a claireaudience, shesaid every physical symptom that
(20:25):
you have, because I also tore myacl, she said it has a
connection to the spirit world.
So if you stub your right toe,it's a reason for that.
I remember when I tore my acl,it was a reason why I did it.
Because I wasn't listening,wasn't moving forward to the
reason why I needed to be here.
It was the spirit world tellingme, I'm actually blocking myself
for moving forward.
(20:46):
So, make a long story short, I'mnow like, okay, I'm, I'm
listening.
I, I hear you.
What, what do you need?
Me, you know, because I don'twanna keep bruising my toes and
stuff.
Dr. Makeba (20:55):
So I hear you listening is very important.
And I do think that that's avery good segue into Khadijah's
story.
Kadijah (21:02):
Well, I was gonna say two kids later, I didn't follow
my intuition, but I think aswomen, like you said, Tiffany we
have fear due to our previousexperiences.
So a lot of times when it comesto our intuition, we have doubt
because we don't know if it'sour conscious or if it's
reservation.
(21:22):
I listen to my intuition when itcomes to things like my career
and other things, but when itcomes to relationships, I don't
listen.
I'm currently dating someone.
I keep hearing full of shit.
He seems like a good guy.
We have fun.
We've only been out on twodates, but you know how someone
(21:42):
wants to promise you the worldso quick.
He's already talking marriageand all types of things.
Dr. Makeba (21:47):
After two dates?
Kadijah (21:49):
Yes.
And you know me, I'm like, pumpthe breaks.
Listen I've been single longtime, but I just listen.
I key, key and he asked me, doyou think I'm a jester Because I
keep laughing because I don'tknow how to react.
That's my defense mechanism.
I don't know if it's me becauseall my friends are in
relationships and I feel like Igive guys a hard way to go.
(22:09):
Yeah.
It's not that I have a list oranything, but I just don't feel
like wasting my time.
The older you get, you know whatyou want, you know, what you
looking for.
So I'm still dating him, but I,I don't know.
I, my intuition is telling me,keep it moving.
Dr. Makeba (22:27):
You know what I think, I think you should keep
it moving.
I think you should listen,
Kadijah (22:31):
He's a nice guy, but you know one thing that I don't
like.
You know how sometimes somebodywill say, oh, I'm gonna call you
back.
Or they say, oh, I'm gonna meetyou when they don't follow
through and then they say, oh, Ithought you was gonna call me.
It seems like he puts a lot ofblame onto me when he doesn't do
something.
Dr. Makeba (22:47):
Sounds like the beginning of the gas lighting.
Cut him.
Kadijah (22:51):
He doesn't call me back and he's like, why you didn't
call me back?
Dr. Makeba (22:54):
That's the mind games.
Kadijah (22:56):
It's like little things and I'm like, it's just a small
period of time.
We met at the Giants bar.
I live in Maryland.
And he's from Jersey.
He's down here for a jobassignment.
Yes.
And we actually met at the bar.
He wants to count that as a minidate.
I'm like, sir?
The little voice, it's likegirl, go ahead and enjoy some
(23:16):
food.
Enjoy these key, key moments.
Get out, you know?
And the other side of me islike, just stay home and watch
some Netflix because you know,this man is full of shit.
I mean,
Dr. Makeba (23:25):
kadijah, we've talked about this too.
You had to stop and we all haveto stop beating ourselves up,
second guessing ourselves, andletting ourselves sabotage
ourselves.
You are not too analytical.
You are not too, no critical.
You are just the way you need tobe to get through this path that
(23:49):
God has put you on.
So trust that.
Trust that.
Now Camron, you are developingrelationships.
You're learning to trust yourinner voice and all of that, and
our first Reiki session was allabout trusting what you hear,
trusting your gut and so I justwanna hear from you, where you
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are in that journey?
How are you feeling?
Camron (24:13):
I'm doing great now actually.
I always would hear the wordintuition and I'm a big music
person.
I used to hear that song byJamie Fox, Intuition, and I
never knew what it meant So Iwanna start off about two years
ago.
I was hanging out with the wrongpeople.
I would go around them everysingle day and I would feel my
gut hurting and like my gutfeeling funny.
(24:33):
I was like, do I have to use therestroom?
Maybe I gotta use the restroom.
But I didn't have to use therestroom.
Even if I did use the restroomafter I used the restroom, I was
still my gut hurting.
I'd get around them and Iwouldn't feel comfortable.
I wouldn't feel right.
I did that every day for aboutfive months straight.
Smoking weed every day, spendingI was just doing everything I
wasn't supposed to be doing.
(24:55):
And my parents knew and theytold me, you're gonna end up
somewhere you don't wanna be.
They both told me.
So one day, I was supposed to beat work.
I took the day off.
This was right when theCoronavirus first started.
My gut was hurting, and someboys who said they were my
friend said they had a car.
(25:17):
I had somebody I knew who had alicense, a grownup, take me over
to where they were and he hadtook me to the place that they
were, and they had a car.
Now the person who was driving,I didn't know like that.
I didn't know how old he was.
He was 14 years old.
I was 18.
Everybody in the car was youngerthan me.
(25:38):
Turns out they stole the car.
They drove me to a place where Ididn't know where I was at, but
they knew where they was at.
They all ran and all of themwent to juvenile and I went to
county jail for 38 days.
Dr. Makeba (25:51):
Oh my goodness.
Camron (25:53):
So I'm sitting in jail, I'm thinking like, dang, I
should listen to my parents.
I'm just thinking abouteverything.
And that's the first time Iactually built my relationship
with God cause he came at theright time.
My intuition was telling me,these people didn't do nothing
for you when you got in here.
They didn't contact you.
They didn't put no money on yourbooks.
They didn't do anything for you.
(26:13):
So when you get out here, stophanging around them.
So young, me as a young person,stayed hanging around them, but
I ended up better in my life andgoing to college.
So it kept me away from them fora while.
Now, within that time period, Igot with this girl.
(26:34):
I knew she was a dramafiedperson, but I was scared of
being alone because I was alonefor a long time.
I was scared of being alone dueto trauma, so with this girl my
intuition told me she wascheating.
It led me to the person she wascheating with through my dreams.
I had never seen a dude.
And it even told me that theywas gonna have a baby.
I have an apartment at the timeand I come out the room and I
(26:59):
see the dude.
I'm like, hold up this, thiscan't be real.
I walked in the room and boom, Iwalked in on them.
Nothing really bad happenedafter that.
I just had to stop hangingaround them cuz they weren't
good for me.
All of them have my spirittelling me that they have very
dark souls.
I stopped hanging around them.
All of them started acting verystrange and I don't have any
(27:19):
contact with them to this day.
I should have trust myintuition.
Even then I did something Ishouldn't have done with the
girl who cheated on me.
My spirit told me that I need tocontact her.
I contacted her and turns outshe had something she was
dealing with that she couldn'tlet go of, so we broke that
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attachment
Dr. Makeba (27:42):
Yeah.
And you did say she waspregnant, right?
Camron (27:45):
Yes.
She is pregnant.
So your whole dream came true.
She's six months pregnant andshe asked me to be the
stepfather.
I'm not that guy.
Tommy-Furqan (27:52):
It will never, could never be yes.
I don't even know why youasking.
Dr. Makeba (27:56):
The beautiful part here is that, that Camron is
learning how to to truly hearand see and feel and act on the
messages that he's getting fromhis spirit guides, God, the
ancestors, et cetera, becausehe's always had these gifts.
(28:17):
It just wasn't.
Fully clear what he should dowith that information.
It's a thing that's developingand I love that you mentioned
that you didn't know whatintuition meant.
So the language, we have to bevery clear with people,
especially our children asthey're growing up, if something
doesn't feel right or sit wellin your stomach, right.
(28:38):
That's intuition Like, if you goaround this adult and this adult
makes you feel queasy, tellmommy.
Right.
Okay.
Right.
Tell mommy, tell daddy orwhatever, and we will make sure
that you don't have to be withthat person anymore If you don't
feel right around them.
And we need to talk to ourchildren about their dreams.
(28:59):
We need to talk with ourchildren, about their imaginary
friends.
These imaginary friends they arespirits and because the children
are so close to the creator,they haven't had a chance to be
tainted and blinded by all thishuman stuff, they're very
connected.
That's why young people havethese connections.
We should not deter them fromhaving those relationships.
(29:23):
We should have them explorethem.
Tommy-Furqan (29:25):
Let me just add, because I work with the
intellectually disabled, theyare very tied in as well.
One of my clients, she has aghost.
His name is George.
He looks at her at night.
He scares her.
He's always looking at her withthe demon eyes.
One of the things I tell Helenis just tell George I have no
time for you, because Georgescared her.
So, that may be part of myspiritual power.
(29:46):
I work with Helen a lot andsince I've been working with
Helen and I basically tell her,tell George to f off, she gets
up and she's happy in themorning.
Dr. Makeba (29:53):
I love y'all.
I feel like I learned so muchwhen I talk to you, and I hope
that our listeners are learningas well.
I want them to know that theycan reach out to us because we
are here to help to share.
We are all one and we're bettertogether.
(30:16):
Thank you for joining theconversation.
You can take action by embracingthe power of your intuition and
actively listening to your innervoice.
Take time to truly reflect onpast experiences and learn from
those moments when you ignoredyour gut feeling.
Practice trusting your intuitionin everyday life.
(30:36):
This will help to cultivate adeeper sense of self-awareness
and alignment with your truepath.
Let us learn, grow and inspireone another on this beautiful
journey of self-discovery andhealing.
Love and light y'all! Catch youon the next episode.
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Dr. Makeba (00:22):
Welcome to Sol Social with Dr.
Makeba and Friends, the soulnourishing podcast that takes
you on a journey of spiritualityself-discovery and healing.
I'm Dr.
Makeba, and I'm thrilled to beyour guide on this metamorphic
path toward embracing yourpurpose, trusting your intuition
and igniting your inner light.
(00:42):
In this episode, I'm joined by acouple of old friends and a
couple of new friends who eachstrive to make a positive impact
in every life they touch.
We have Khadija Kemp aneducator, professional counselor
and healer who advocates againstgun violence and helps to heal
traumas.
Tiffany Grant, a licensedprofessional counselor as well,
(01:05):
and a Reiki practitioner whohelps individuals connect with
their highest selves throughtraditional counseling, coupled
with energy work.
We have Camron Shelton anartist, entrepreneur, and
wellness coach.
And last but not least, TommyFu'rqan Washington, an emerging
energy, artist, andcompassionate caregiver.
(01:26):
Join us as we aim to shed lighton the importance of trusting
your inner voice As you listento this episode, I invite you to
reflect on your own experiencesof ignoring or trusting your
intuition, your gut feeling,that voice in your head.
While doing so consider theimpact of cultural and personal
(01:46):
traumas on your ability tolisten to that voice.
Alright?
Let's talk.
Hello, hello, hello.
This is Dr.
Makeba and I'm super excitedabout this topic today because
we are talking about listeningand trusting your gut, your
(02:07):
intuition.
That voice of God in your head.
It's very hard sometimes whenyou don't have physical proof,
physical evidence when you'rebeating up on yourself to really
figure out if this is the devilon your shoulder or the angel on
your shoulder.
So we are gonna have a chatabout that with some of my
really, good friends.
(02:28):
Everybody on the show today hasa story for you about that voice
in their head that sometimesthey just don't trust.
But we know what happens when wedon't trust that voice, and
we're gonna talk about that.
Kadijah, please introduceyourself.
Kadijah (02:42):
My name's Kadijah Kemp and I am an educator at D.C.P.S.
And I go way back with Dr.
Makeba all the way back to highschool and scooping
Dr. Makeba (02:54):
ice cream at Baskin-Robbins I was gonna say,
and Baskin-Robbins.
Kadijah (02:58):
She's my manager.
So we go way, way back to teenyears and I'm happy to be here.
Dr. Makeba (03:03):
I'm happy to have you.
She's just such a beautifulspirit.
She's been through a lot andshe's come a long way, so I'm
really happy to have her with ustoday.
Tiffany, please introduceyourself.
Tiffany (03:14):
Well, hello, I am Tiffany Grant.
I'm a licensed professionalcounselor.
I work at the VA with veterans,and I also work at a private
practice, so I do individualcouples and group counseling.
I'm really enjoying this space.
I'm looking forward to thisconversation and I'm glad be
here.
Dr. Makeba (03:31):
I'm so glad to have you.
This young lady here leads withher heart.
She's got the biggest, sweetestheart and I'm so glad to know
her.
Camron, go ahead and introduceyourself.
Camron (03:42):
All right.
My name is Camron Shelton.
I'm 20 years old.
I'm an audio engineer, aproducer, poet, artist, rapper,
singer, everything.
I play the keyboard, I play theclarinet, and I'm learning how
to play the acoustic guitar.
Any genre there is I make musicin that.
I was in school, but I'm notschool anymore.
I work at Delta.
(04:02):
Me and Ms.
Makeba, actually met throughReiki and I learned how to do
reiki through her.
Dr. Makeba (04:08):
That's right.
Reiki was my introduction tospirituality because it got me
connected to the energy bodythat's in me.
I definitely recommend it to allof y'all out there in the world.
Learn it, even if it's justself-care, cuz it really helps
to open you up and keep youbalanced.
I would add just one more thingabout Camron.
(04:29):
He is so smart that he was like,high school.
I'm done.
I'm not doing you for too long.
He got it done real quick.
How quick did you get highschool done One year.
One year,
Tommy-Furqan (04:43):
What! You was out and you were like, Nope,
Dr. Makeba (04:47):
and we've talked about this on our previous shows
that Claircognizance is a thing.
It's a clear knowing and thisyoung man knows a lot so he's
able to get through things, askgood, good questions.
I admire him and I'm so happythat he is embracing his
spirituality and running withit.
(05:09):
He is a superstar.
Camron (05:10):
To expand on what you said, I'm not trying to brag but
when I was in third grade, I wasalready reading on a eighth
grade level and I read theAlmanac.
I started reading almanacs backthen.
I read the almanac for 2008 and2009, which I have right here
actually.
Tommy-Furqan (05:24):
Almanacs are fun to read.
I read every almanac back in1989 and 1990.
If you read Almanacs then you'rea nerd.
That's good with me.
Dr. Makeba (05:32):
Tommy Fu'rquan Washington, please.
Last but not least, pleaseintroduce
Tommy-Furqan (05:37):
yourself Okay.
Yo, I am Tommy Fu'rquanWashington, also known as Fu.
Everybody calls me Fu.
I've known Makeba, she's an HBCUfriend.
She's FAMU and I'm an Aggie andI met her through my Aggie
friends right after undergrad inAtlanta.
I am going on a spiritual pathwhere I am rebuilding myself.
(06:01):
Makeba was around to watch myearly rise in career.
I used to work in media,producer, editor, writer, poet
but I was trapped in a lot ofmisery and a lot of hurt and a
lot of pain, and I've had acomplete breakdown.
I had 10 years of darkness aswell and now I'm rebuilding my
life.
(06:22):
I work with intellectuallydisabled men.
I am a case worker, caremanager, unlicensed nurse.
I love these guys.
They help me recover.
I'm also trying to decide am Igonna go to a nurse pract.
route?
Am I going back in the media?
I don't know.
I'm opening myself up to theuniverse and I'm letting it
decide.
(06:43):
There's a lot of spiritualthings that are happening for me
right now in downloads.
Honestly, I don't even know whatreiki is because I always heard
people who aren't on this calltalking about reiki.
You know what I mean by that?
When I was experiencing yoga.
It was hard to learn yoga fromwhite people, let's just say
that.
And so I couldn't do reikilearning from white people.
(07:05):
I'm like, yoga, this is not yourculture.
Why are you telling me this?
Dr. Makeba (07:08):
Hold on, hold on.
We don't wanna exclude anypeople.
We don't wanna exclude whitepeople.
There, there is a thing, and Ihear this a lot from people of
color talking about going toenergy healers, reiki
practitioners, any kind ofhealer.
It's not a black and whitething.
It's really an energetic thingbecause you can sense energy
(07:29):
when you walk into the room,when you meet a person, when you
feel, and you know who's got thegood energy that you wanna work
with and who doesn't.
So we wanna try to focus on theenergy.
So, I understand culturally thatAmericans teaching yoga is not
the tradition.
(07:49):
Right?
We didn't create it.
So it's harder to take it.
Tommy-Furqan (07:52):
It's hard when trying to go into those spaces,
cuz that's the thing is alsorecovering from going into a
traumatic space where it wasn'tthis way.
And trying to get from thattrauma where I can open myself
up again to hear everybody.
Because sometimes when we gointo those spaces, we experience
trauma based on our identity andour cultural heritage and that's
more what I'm talking about.
(08:13):
You know, it's a trust factor.
It's an ease and trust.
Dr. Makeba (08:17):
Right, right.
I'd like each of you to share amoment when you didn't listen to
your gut, tell us a little bitabout that, what happened and
what'd you learned from it.
My example is with my marriage.
(08:38):
I won't go into too manydetails, but I'll say simply
that I kind of had a feelinggoing in that I probably
shouldn't do it.
I was young, not that young.
I was approaching 30, which is apivotal point in time for a
(09:01):
young lady because you'rethinking your biological clock
is ticking.
You're willing to kind ofcompromise a little bit on what
you're looking for.
And when I met my ex-husband Ineeded a companion, a
relationship I had just gottenout of a relationship that was
everything to me.
(09:22):
It was extreme love andaffection and all that stuff and
we broke up.
What I was looking for was amore mature love I thought.
When we were dating, he neverdeclared me as his girlfriend,
which I thought was weird anddidn't feel right?
And then I got pregnant and thenwe got engaged and we got
married.
(09:42):
During that whole period I washearing things and feeling
things in my gut like, thisisn't right.
Maybe you shouldn't do this ordon't do it.
And I was in my head like, who'ssaying this?
Is it me the doubter?
Or is it truly my angels tryingto protect me from something
(10:05):
that could harm me in the longrun?
It took me 18 years.
19 years, really.
If you count the time that wewere dating to truly figure out
that I should have listened tothat voice because I was right
(10:27):
and nothing changed.
It was a consistent kind of notquite good feeling for that
whole time.
So I've learned to listen.
It took me a long time, but Ilearned to listen and to trust.
(10:47):
I would like to hear what youall have to say.
Tommy-Furqan (10:50):
So mine, it's very recent and I'm still going
through it.
Now, I don't know if it were menot listening to my inner voice
or if it were just a warning.
It's changing day by day.
I'm a avid scooter and biker inNew York.
I love riding scooter.
I may be about to do some thingson social media with doing that.
(11:11):
I ride a scooter, like asnowboarder.
I'm crazy.
I do a lot of things inManhattan.
It's fun.
So I'm leaving work the othermorning.
I work overnight, 14 hours.
I just want to get to thesubway, and go home to go to
sleep.
And that is all I was focusedon.
So I pulled out of the driveway,did a crazy u-turn, like a
snowboarder, and I slipped andfell on the leaves after a fresh
(11:35):
rain on top of oil.
And the way I was turning wasreally tight.
So the scooter went like thisand slammed me into the ground.
And when I hit the ground, Iknocked out my tooth because my
face took all the impact So Ihave one tooth and my front
mouth.
Now I'm toothless.
(11:55):
What wound up happening is a fewdays before that, I busted that
move a few times.
I almost fell twice doing thatmove of the prior week.
I also noticed all the leaves onthe ground like a week before.
I'm part of this Reddit group.
Everyone's talking about howmuch the leaves are on the
ground, how many leaves there,and how scared everyone is.
(12:17):
I didn't listen.
I'm still doing that move.
As a matter of fact, I almostlike really wiped out in front
of my own house with kids on theplayground and I still, and I
recovered.
But I just wanted to get homeand I wanted to go.
And a little backstory I havealways had dental issues.
I've always had spacing and it'salways been my albatross.
I never did on camera thingsbecause I was scared about my
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teeth.
Kids used to call me the GapBand and say, you dropped the
bomb on me when I was a littlekid.
I had trauma years over years,and people kept joking me about
it.
Then after I had my breakdown,they didn't have insurance
anymore.
I went to a dentist and shesnatched both my teeth out when
a porcelain fell out.
So everything shifted.
So long story short, I've beenavoiding this forever.
(13:01):
My dental issues are the lastthing I wanted to deal with
right now.
I had a plan.
It was my feet, my stomach, myteeth.
I'm on my feet we're done.
I wasn't ready for this yet.
What I'm thinking now is atfirst, I wasn't listening to my
intuition, but perhaps this wasjust my spirit and my ancestors
warning me that you're about tohave to deal with something that
you haven't wanted to deal withyour whole life.
(13:24):
You're about to have to dealwith something that has held you
back from day one.
This was bigger than race.
This was bigger than my gender.
This is bigger than anything.
This stopped me all mypotential.
I mean, when I worked in media,I could have easily been in
front of the camera.
People told me to do it.
I worked in radio.
I have a radio voice.
I wanted to be in front of thecamera, but I let my own fear
(13:45):
around my dental issues stop meand then I let my fear of the
financial cost stopped mebecause that was the other fear.
But the other morning, when Isaw my tooth on the pavement, I
sat there and, and I started tounravel, I knew instantly that I
gotta deal with this right now.
Because there was no otheroption.
And the spiritual world had mein the right place because I
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didn't wipe out at home becauseI would've ran in my house,
closed my curtains, text my job,called off, text more people,
canceled, and I may have beengoing back into my maladaptive
behavior because that was myprimary emotional trigger.
So God had me at work with oneof my temps who I just had an
(14:28):
argument with.
I literally just went in on thiswoman and this person had to
show me kindness.
She saw me at my weakest, mostvulnerable emotional point.
I had to get it together in 90seconds, cuz the next thing I
did was pull out my laptop andlook for an emergency dental ER.
So now I'm getting an implant intwo weeks.
I don't know how the money's I'mgonna do the money.
I don't know.
(14:48):
I don't care.
I'm trusting in the universeit's gonna.
And things have been going wellfor me.
I'm trusting.
Dr. Makeba (14:54):
And the other piece is that you are on camera with a
missing tooth.
Right.
That's why
Tommy-Furqan (14:59):
I did it.
That's why I'm here.
You pressed me for this Look, wespoke about this and then you
asked me to do it this week.
You are you serious right now Ihave other zoom commitments and
the other zoom commitments havebeen done just like that.
You actually got me on hereright now, so, and I spoke about
this too cuz I used this as anopportunity to work through and
(15:20):
elevate and narrate my trauma.
Cause the more I narrate thistrauma, the better, the more
it's healing and spiritually.
I think it was a warning becauseI'm free.
Oh my God.
I'm free.
This thing that I've been scaredof.
I was in the dentist.
Yeah, I'm in there now.
Might as well deal witheverything.
And now this is how I can be onthe camera now because I got
(15:42):
slammed to the ground andsometimes the ancestors gotta
slap me.
You can kinda see I'm that guy.
I feel it like it was a warningbecause it was like they're
warning me that you better getyour mind right.
You told me to rest up twoweekends ago, so I don't know
what's coming.
This is just part of thejourney.
Dr. Makeba (15:58):
I love this.
I love this because when wespoke earlier this week, the
conversation was different.
Right.
It's evolving.
Very different.
It evolves.
And so we get these messagesfrom God, from the spirits, from
our ancestors, and we don'talways know what they mean, but
we have to understand thatthings happen for a reason.
(16:18):
And one of the reasons I'm notmad at my ex-husband is because
I know that marriage happenedfor a reason.
There was a lesson to be had,like I should have listened to
my gut and had I known what Iknow now, I wouldn't have gotten
to that situation, but I knowthat I got in that marriage
because I need to be able toteach people not to do that, to
(16:39):
listen to their guts.
You know what I mean?
So, alright.
We're gonna move on to our nextguest.
Tiffany (16:46):
I'll go next.
I was single for a year.
I didn't want to date oranything, and then my best
friend passed.
I was going through a lot.
I met this gentleman and whilewe were talking my intuition
kept saying, Don't do it.
Don't pursue him.
But then in my mind, I'm like,well, he's cutes I was just
putting things on paper.
Sometimes I look at it like isit my intuition or is it fear?
(17:09):
Because I was not in arelationship for a year and then
the relationship before was likethree years and I'm like, okay,
am I just fearing going intorelationships.
So I kind of chopped it up, oh,just fear.
I'm gonna prove to the worldthat I'm not scared.
Fast forward, the relationshipwas a lot.
A lot of stress.
I had to put some color in myhair cause ended up getting gray
hair, you, show that gray girl
Dr. Makeba (17:28):
show that gray.
Tiffany (17:30):
I would say before I started dating him, I didn't
have much gray, but then afterit, I was just, it was a lot of
gray up there.
It was a lot of stress.
It led to me to start drinking.
So I did a lot of self soothing.
Mm.
And my gut, my intuition justkept saying, you need to leave I
mean, it wasn't like abusive oranything like that, but it's
just like, we just didn't clash.
(17:53):
So fast forward.
Now mind you, I'm 40 and neverbeen married.
So this year I found out he wentto my parents and asked for my
hand and marriage.
So I'm like, I'm just soexcited.
But then my intuitions like,Nope, don't do it.
I'm like, no.
Well, maybe I'm just afraidbecause I've never been married
before.
Yeah, yeah.
(18:13):
So I'm just, I just kept, Imean, it was so strong.
They like, don't do it.
Don't do it.
I'm like, no.
I just kick it off as fear, youknow, I'm just, I'm just a
little afraid.
It just, it's what it, I'venever been married so I can
understand.
I could tell that my spirit teamreally didn't want me to marry
him because we had a dogtogether, and the dog and I,
both got attacked by a pit bullwhile I was walking him.
(18:34):
He was six weeks old.
During that time he wasn't therefor me and everything just went
downhill.
So looking back now I'm gladthat they intervened because I
feel like they're like there'ssomething bigger and better out
there and we don't want youthere.
But then I looked at'em like,okay, I should've listened to my
gut is it wasn't fear, it was myinner voice telling me not to
(18:57):
move forward.
I'm not upset about notlistening to it because it led
me into my spiritual journey.
It led me into establishing newfriendships and just be able to
learn more about me and, and myreason for being here.
I'm not knocking it, but if Iwould've listened to my gut,
what would that journey looklike?
Or what would that look like ifI wouldn't?
Dr. Makeba (19:17):
Yeah, it just affirms the power of the gut and
the intuition and the connectionwith the spirit world.
Because they do really try toconnect with us and we have to
try to listen a little bit more,a little bit closer and have
conversations with the spiritsand be like, what is the
problem?
Tiffany (19:38):
Oh, now me and my spirit team talk every day.
It's even to the point where Iremember another thing and I'll
be done.
So I bought another Amazonitebracelet cause the other one
broke.
And then my intuition wastelling me, give it to your
sister.
I was like, oh, it's so pretty.
Give it to your sister.
So I was like, well, lemme justhold on for another day.
Well, one thing I've learned isthat whenever I don't follow it,
(20:03):
I always stub my right toe.
So then, I looked it up and Iprayed, and then is like, you
need to listen.
So once I gave it to her, Ididn't have anymore issues.
You know, so I'm learning totrust.
Also the whole thing with myrelationship, I would stub my
toe all the time.
And I remember there was thislady, she did reiki and I think
she was a claireaudience, shesaid every physical symptom that
(20:25):
you have, because I also tore myacl, she said it has a
connection to the spirit world.
So if you stub your right toe,it's a reason for that.
I remember when I tore my acl,it was a reason why I did it.
Because I wasn't listening,wasn't moving forward to the
reason why I needed to be here.
It was the spirit world tellingme, I'm actually blocking myself
for moving forward.
(20:46):
So, make a long story short, I'mnow like, okay, I'm, I'm
listening.
I, I hear you.
What, what do you need?
Me, you know, because I don'twanna keep bruising my toes and
stuff.
Dr. Makeba (20:55):
So I hear you listening is very important.
And I do think that that's avery good segue into Khadijah's
story.
Kadijah (21:02):
Well, I was gonna say two kids later, I didn't follow
my intuition, but I think aswomen, like you said, Tiffany we
have fear due to our previousexperiences.
So a lot of times when it comesto our intuition, we have doubt
because we don't know if it'sour conscious or if it's
reservation.
(21:22):
I listen to my intuition when itcomes to things like my career
and other things, but when itcomes to relationships, I don't
listen.
I'm currently dating someone.
I keep hearing full of shit.
He seems like a good guy.
We have fun.
We've only been out on twodates, but you know how someone
(21:42):
wants to promise you the worldso quick.
He's already talking marriageand all types of things.
Dr. Makeba (21:47):
After two dates?
Kadijah (21:49):
Yes.
And you know me, I'm like, pumpthe breaks.
Listen I've been single longtime, but I just listen.
I key, key and he asked me, doyou think I'm a jester Because I
keep laughing because I don'tknow how to react.
That's my defense mechanism.
I don't know if it's me becauseall my friends are in
relationships and I feel like Igive guys a hard way to go.
(22:09):
Yeah.
It's not that I have a list oranything, but I just don't feel
like wasting my time.
The older you get, you know whatyou want, you know, what you
looking for.
So I'm still dating him, but I,I don't know.
I, my intuition is telling me,keep it moving.
Dr. Makeba (22:27):
You know what I think, I think you should keep
it moving.
I think you should listen,
Kadijah (22:31):
He's a nice guy, but you know one thing that I don't
like.
You know how sometimes somebodywill say, oh, I'm gonna call you
back.
Or they say, oh, I'm gonna meetyou when they don't follow
through and then they say, oh, Ithought you was gonna call me.
It seems like he puts a lot ofblame onto me when he doesn't do
something.
Dr. Makeba (22:47):
Sounds like the beginning of the gas lighting.
Cut him.
Kadijah (22:51):
He doesn't call me back and he's like, why you didn't
call me back?
Dr. Makeba (22:54):
That's the mind games.
Kadijah (22:56):
It's like little things and I'm like, it's just a small
period of time.
We met at the Giants bar.
I live in Maryland.
And he's from Jersey.
He's down here for a jobassignment.
Yes.
And we actually met at the bar.
He wants to count that as a minidate.
I'm like, sir?
The little voice, it's likegirl, go ahead and enjoy some
(23:16):
food.
Enjoy these key, key moments.
Get out, you know?
And the other side of me islike, just stay home and watch
some Netflix because you know,this man is full of shit.
I mean,
Dr. Makeba (23:25):
kadijah, we've talked about this too.
You had to stop and we all haveto stop beating ourselves up,
second guessing ourselves, andletting ourselves sabotage
ourselves.
You are not too analytical.
You are not too, no critical.
You are just the way you need tobe to get through this path that
(23:49):
God has put you on.
So trust that.
Trust that.
Now Camron, you are developingrelationships.
You're learning to trust yourinner voice and all of that, and
our first Reiki session was allabout trusting what you hear,
trusting your gut and so I justwanna hear from you, where you
(24:11):
are in that journey?
How are you feeling?
Camron (24:13):
I'm doing great now actually.
I always would hear the wordintuition and I'm a big music
person.
I used to hear that song byJamie Fox, Intuition, and I
never knew what it meant So Iwanna start off about two years
ago.
I was hanging out with the wrongpeople.
I would go around them everysingle day and I would feel my
gut hurting and like my gutfeeling funny.
(24:33):
I was like, do I have to use therestroom?
Maybe I gotta use the restroom.
But I didn't have to use therestroom.
Even if I did use the restroomafter I used the restroom, I was
still my gut hurting.
I'd get around them and Iwouldn't feel comfortable.
I wouldn't feel right.
I did that every day for aboutfive months straight.
Smoking weed every day, spendingI was just doing everything I
wasn't supposed to be doing.
(24:55):
And my parents knew and theytold me, you're gonna end up
somewhere you don't wanna be.
They both told me.
So one day, I was supposed to beat work.
I took the day off.
This was right when theCoronavirus first started.
My gut was hurting, and someboys who said they were my
friend said they had a car.
(25:17):
I had somebody I knew who had alicense, a grownup, take me over
to where they were and he hadtook me to the place that they
were, and they had a car.
Now the person who was driving,I didn't know like that.
I didn't know how old he was.
He was 14 years old.
I was 18.
Everybody in the car was youngerthan me.
(25:38):
Turns out they stole the car.
They drove me to a place where Ididn't know where I was at, but
they knew where they was at.
They all ran and all of themwent to juvenile and I went to
county jail for 38 days.
Dr. Makeba (25:51):
Oh my goodness.
Camron (25:53):
So I'm sitting in jail, I'm thinking like, dang, I
should listen to my parents.
I'm just thinking abouteverything.
And that's the first time Iactually built my relationship
with God cause he came at theright time.
My intuition was telling me,these people didn't do nothing
for you when you got in here.
They didn't contact you.
They didn't put no money on yourbooks.
They didn't do anything for you.
(26:13):
So when you get out here, stophanging around them.
So young, me as a young person,stayed hanging around them, but
I ended up better in my life andgoing to college.
So it kept me away from them fora while.
Now, within that time period, Igot with this girl.
(26:34):
I knew she was a dramafiedperson, but I was scared of
being alone because I was alonefor a long time.
I was scared of being alone dueto trauma, so with this girl my
intuition told me she wascheating.
It led me to the person she wascheating with through my dreams.
I had never seen a dude.
And it even told me that theywas gonna have a baby.
I have an apartment at the timeand I come out the room and I
(26:59):
see the dude.
I'm like, hold up this, thiscan't be real.
I walked in the room and boom, Iwalked in on them.
Nothing really bad happenedafter that.
I just had to stop hangingaround them cuz they weren't
good for me.
All of them have my spirittelling me that they have very
dark souls.
I stopped hanging around them.
All of them started acting verystrange and I don't have any
(27:19):
contact with them to this day.
I should have trust myintuition.
Even then I did something Ishouldn't have done with the
girl who cheated on me.
My spirit told me that I need tocontact her.
I contacted her and turns outshe had something she was
dealing with that she couldn'tlet go of, so we broke that
(27:41):
attachment
Dr. Makeba (27:42):
Yeah.
And you did say she waspregnant, right?
Camron (27:45):
Yes.
She is pregnant.
So your whole dream came true.
She's six months pregnant andshe asked me to be the
stepfather.
I'm not that guy.
Tommy-Furqan (27:52):
It will never, could never be yes.
I don't even know why youasking.
Dr. Makeba (27:56):
The beautiful part here is that, that Camron is
learning how to to truly hearand see and feel and act on the
messages that he's getting fromhis spirit guides, God, the
ancestors, et cetera, becausehe's always had these gifts.
(28:17):
It just wasn't.
Fully clear what he should dowith that information.
It's a thing that's developingand I love that you mentioned
that you didn't know whatintuition meant.
So the language, we have to bevery clear with people,
especially our children asthey're growing up, if something
doesn't feel right or sit wellin your stomach, right.
(28:38):
That's intuition Like, if you goaround this adult and this adult
makes you feel queasy, tellmommy.
Right.
Okay.
Right.
Tell mommy, tell daddy orwhatever, and we will make sure
that you don't have to be withthat person anymore If you don't
feel right around them.
And we need to talk to ourchildren about their dreams.
(28:59):
We need to talk with ourchildren, about their imaginary
friends.
These imaginary friends they arespirits and because the children
are so close to the creator,they haven't had a chance to be
tainted and blinded by all thishuman stuff, they're very
connected.
That's why young people havethese connections.
We should not deter them fromhaving those relationships.
(29:23):
We should have them explorethem.
Tommy-Furqan (29:25):
Let me just add, because I work with the
intellectually disabled, theyare very tied in as well.
One of my clients, she has aghost.
His name is George.
He looks at her at night.
He scares her.
He's always looking at her withthe demon eyes.
One of the things I tell Helenis just tell George I have no
time for you, because Georgescared her.
So, that may be part of myspiritual power.
(29:46):
I work with Helen a lot andsince I've been working with
Helen and I basically tell her,tell George to f off, she gets
up and she's happy in themorning.
Dr. Makeba (29:53):
I love y'all.
I feel like I learned so muchwhen I talk to you, and I hope
that our listeners are learningas well.
I want them to know that theycan reach out to us because we
are here to help to share.
We are all one and we're bettertogether.
(30:16):
Thank you for joining theconversation.
You can take action by embracingthe power of your intuition and
actively listening to your innervoice.
Take time to truly reflect onpast experiences and learn from
those moments when you ignoredyour gut feeling.
Practice trusting your intuitionin everyday life.
(30:36):
This will help to cultivate adeeper sense of self-awareness
and alignment with your truepath.
Let us learn, grow and inspireone another on this beautiful
journey of self-discovery andhealing.
Love and light y'all! Catch youon the next episode.
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