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Today we share profound verses from Rumi's "Fountain of Fire" that explore the intersection of love, life, and death. These ancient words offer comfort and new perspectives for those navigating the complex landscape of grief.

• Exploration of Rumi's poetic wisdom on how the known merges with the unknown
• Reflection on the continuity between this life and the next
• Reminder that the soul cannot be confined by physical death
• Encouragement to practice kindness
• Invitation to view death as transformation 

Remember I'm always available for spiritual direction by Zoom to those who are grieving.
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Candee (00:23):
I welcome you to Solace: Soul + Grief.
My name's Candee Lucas and I'ma grief chaplain.
I accompany those who aregrieving any kind of loss and I
ask that you let me accompanyyou today.
You're always welcome in thiscircle of healing, love and

(00:44):
support.
Remember we are all on thisjourney together.
The following are verses fromRumi's-- Fountain of Fire, the

(01:09):
Musings on Life and Death--.
Look at love how it tangles withthe one fallen in love.
At love how it tangles with theone fallen in love.

(01:30):
Look at spirit how it fuseswith earth, giving it new life.
Why are you so busy with thisor that, or good or bad?
Pay attention to how thingsblend.
Why talk about all the knownand the unknown?
See how the unknown merges intothe known.
Why think separately of thislife and the next, when one is

(01:54):
born from the last?
Look at your heart and tongue.
One feels, but deaf and dumb.
The other speaks in words andsigns.
Look at water and fire, earthand wind, enemies and friends
all at once, the wolf and thelamb, the lion and the deer, far

(02:21):
away yet together.
Look of the unity of thisspring and winter manifested in
the equinox.
You too must mingle, my friends, since the earth and the sky
are mingled just for you and me.
Be like sugar cane sweet yetsilent.
Don't get mixed up with bitterwords.

(02:43):
Silent, don't get mixed up withbitter words.
My beloved grows right out ofmy own heart.
How much more union can therebe?
Come on, sweetheart, let'sadore one another Before there
is no more of you and me.
A mirror tells the truth.
Look at your grim face.

(03:04):
Brighten up and cast away yourbitter smile.
A generous friend gives lifefor a friend.
Let's rise above thisanimalistic behavior and be kind
to one another.
Spite darkens friendships.
Let's rise above thisanimalistic behavior and be kind
to one another.
Spite darkens friendships.
Why not cast away malice fromour hearts?

(03:25):
Once you think of me, dead andgone, you will make up with me.
You will miss me.
You may even adore me.
Why be a worshiper of the dead?
Think of me as a goner.
Come and make up now.
Since you will come and throwkisses at my tombstones later,

(03:45):
why not give them to me now?
This is me, that same person.
I may talk too much, but myheart is silence.
What else can I do?
I am condemned to this life.

(04:11):
I've come again, like a newyear, to crash the gate of this
old prison.
I've come again to break theteeth and claws of this
man-eating monster we call life.
I've come again to puncture theglory of the cosmos who
mercilessly destroys humans.

(04:32):
I am the falcon hunting downthe birds of black omen before
their flights.
I gave my word at the outset togive my life with no qualms.
I pray to the Lord to break myback before I break my word.
How do you dare to let someonelike me, intoxicated with love,

(04:53):
enter your house?
You must know better.
If I enter, I'll break all thisand destroy all that.
If the sheriff arrives, I'llthrow the wine in his face.
If your gatekeeper pulls myhand, I'll break his arm.
If the heavens don't go roundto my heart's crush, I'll crush

(05:17):
its wheels and pull out itsroots.
You have set up a colorfultable calling it life and asking
me to be your feast, but punishme if I enjoy myself.
What tyranny is this?
You mustn't be afraid of death.
You are a deathless soul.

(05:38):
You can't be kept in a darkgrave.
You are filled with God's glow.
Be happy with your beloved.
You can't find any better.
The world will shimmer becauseof the diamond you hold when

(05:59):
your heart is immersed in thisblissful love, you can easily
endure any bitter face around.
In the absence of malice, thereis nothing but happiness and
good times.
Don't dwell in sorrow, myfriend.

(06:31):
Don't mistake me for this humanform.
The soul is not obscured byforms.
Even if it were wrapped inhundredfolds of felt, the rays
of the soul's light would stillshine through.
Beat the drum, follow theminstrels of the city.
It's a day of renewal, whenevery young man walks boldly on

(06:56):
the path of love.
Had everyone sought God insteadof crumbs and copper coins,
they would not be sitting on theedge of the moat in darkness
and regret.
What kind of gossip house haveyou opened in our city?
Close your lips and shine onthe world like loving sunlight.

(07:18):
Shine like the sun of Tabrizrising in the east.
Shine like the star of victory.
Shine like the whole universeis yours.
That again is the poet Rumi inthe arms of the beloved.

(07:53):
How should the soul not takewings when from the glory of God
it hears a sweet, kindly callwhy are you here, soul Arise?
How should a fish not leap fastinto the sea from dry land when
from the ocean so cool thesound of the waves reaches it?

(08:15):
How should the falcon not flyback to his king from the hunt
when from the falconer's drum ithears to call oh, come back.
Why should not every Sufi beginto dance atom-like around the
sun of duration that gives fromimpermanence.
What graciousness and whatbeauty, what life bestowing,

(08:39):
what grace, if anyone doeswithout that.
Whoa, what air.
What suffering.
Oh fly, oh fly, oh, my soulbird, fly to your primordial
home.
You have escaped from the cage.
Now your wings are spread inthe air.
Oh, travel from brackish waterNow to the fountain of life.

(09:01):
Return from the place of thesandals Now to the high seat of
souls.
Go on, go go on.
We are coming, we are coming,oh soul, go on, go on, we are
going and we are coming, oh soul, from this world of separation
to union a world beyond worlds.

(09:22):
How long shall we be here?
How long shall we be here?
How long shall we, here in thedust world, like children, fill
our skirts With earth and stoneswithout value and broken shards
without worth?
Let's take our hand from thedust grove.

(09:42):
Let's fly to the heavens high.
Let's fly from our childishbehavior and join the banquet of
men.
Call out, o soul, to proclaimnow that you are rules and kings
.
You have the grace of theanswer and you know the question

(10:03):
well.
That concludes this week'sepisode.
You can find us on Apple,Spotify or Amazon.

(10:25):
Feel free to send any questionsyou might have about grieving
to my email.
In the show notes I'll try toanswer any questions you have in
the future.
Remember I'm always availablefor spiritual direction by Zoom

(10:46):
to those who are grieving.
Please reach out to me if youhave this need.
Be safe.
Travel with God always at yourside.
Vaya con Dios.
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