August 23, 2025 • 16 mins
Why don’t Russians put ice in their water? Why do Americans believe immigrants “steal jobs”? In this sharp, often hilarious finale, Olga and Svetlana bust open cultural clichés while unpacking why first-generation grit looks different—and why it may be the secret to America’s edge. From work ethic shocks to economic facts, this conversation reframes immigrants not as takers, but as the drivers of the American future.
Russian Walnut Shaped Cookies - "Oreshki" Recipe
Timestamps:
- (00:00) Cultural Clash: Russian Work Ethic Meets U.S. Labor Laws
- (00:38) Food, Family, Identity: What We Carry Here
- (05:26) Myth-Busting: The Job-Stealing Lie
- (08:36) Final Reflections: Why America Needs Immigrant Energy
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Alex (00:00):
"We've covered the journeys, the reforms, and the fixes—now let's
get real about the everyday stuffthat makes America feel like home...
or totally baffling.
From cranberry sauce on mashed potatoesto the myth that immigrants 'steal
jobs,' Olga and Svetlana share thecultural quirks, the laughs, and
the deeper truths about fitting in.
(00:21):
And wait till you hear whythey call new citizens 'super
Americans'—it's a revelation."
Jerremy & Svetlana (00:26):
But just as an exciting question that I think
would be enjoyable for me and Daveto hear what's one thing you still
find confusing about us culture?
Olga Kay (00:38):
Eating mashed potatoes with cranberry sauce.
Jerremy & Svetlana (00:43):
I would go with mashed potatoes with the skin on top too.
Okay.
We never, ever, we had all eatenlike that are not cooked, or
broccoli that is not cooked.
Olga Kay (00:53):
Oh, honey, on top of fried chicken,
Jerremy & Svetlana (00:58):
Oh, first of all, honey, on everything is amazing to be
Dave (01:02):
GRA Gravy.
Olga Kay (01:04):
I got comfortable with the skins and potatoes because I've learned that
there's so many more vitamins in the skin.
So I'm like, okay, I'll deal with that.
I'm thinking, like I'msuch an American now.
My mom would always say, oh,you're such an American now.
And it's because, I prioritize workand I like to accomplish things and
(01:25):
I like certain things certain way.
Jerremy & Svetlana (01:29):
What a great compliment to be called American.
Olga Kay (01:32):
I guess if my mom were to answer this question, she would say, what a weird
concept of putting ice in your water.
No ice in water, please.
That was the biggest thing.
Jerremy & Svetlana (01:44):
So do you still find yourself doing that still?
Olga Kay (01:46):
I
Jerremy & Svetlana (01:47):
I.
Olga Kay (01:48):
I chill my water, but I don't put ice in it.
Jerremy & Svetlana (01:51):
She was like, I don't need any ice.
I'm like, how?
How are you drinkingthis water with no ice?
This is mind blowing to me.
Olga Kay (01:58):
Yep.
There you
Jerremy & Svetlana (01:59):
There you
Dave (02:00):
I went the other way.
My boo is Turkish.
I couldn't even imagine iceand water at this point.
So you both mentioned food.
What is your comfort food?
Olga Kay (02:09):
In Russia, I grew up eating pelini, which is the meat dumplings, and I
ate them ever since I was seven years old,and I'm still obsessed with it in America.
So many foods, I love Indian food.
Is that an answer?
That's something I could never havein Russia, so I love Indian food.
Jerremy & Svetlana (02:27):
Yes, I feel like everything that was made,
like bread type of things, likeI feel like we grew up on bread.
My grandma would be always bacon,pieros, all kind of things.
And so every time I am in that likerooted, soulful energy, like I wanted
to make something hardy and it wouldhave, some element of flour in it.
(02:52):
So that is definitely it.
It's just a part of aDNA fun question for me.
are there very few Russian restaurants.
Olga Kay (03:04):
Good
Jerremy & Svetlana: you, it's not that good. (03:04):
undefined
It's not,
Olga Kay (03:07):
okay and I have to
Jerremy & Svetlana (03:08):
it's the same stuff.
It's the same stuff.
It's same ingredients, whichjust mixed up in a different way.
Olga Kay (03:15):
mayo
Jerremy & Svetlana (03:16):
A different way.
Olga Kay (03:17):
I don't know.
I have to disagree a little bit becauseI love Russian food, but my partner is
American and he is I cannot have this.
This is, it is just,everything is mixed with Mayo.
I just cannot have this coupleof things he enjoys, but he would
never wake up in the morning.
He's Hey, we should go out tonight.
Let's go to a Russian restaurant.
That would never happen.
Jerremy & Svetlana (03:36):
She's never requested that.
Exactly.
It's never once.
Olga Kay (03:39):
Here's what happens to me.
I do crave Russian, especiallywhen I got pregnant.
I was like, oh, I wanna do is eat Russianfood and I would order all this Russian
food and then it would come to me, andthen I would say I could make it better
and then I just end up making it at home.
But I don't make it it is justa special occasion for me where
I'll make all the Russian food.
However, during Christmas in Russia,we would always make oreshki.
(04:04):
Let's see.
Yeah, so it's like a really it lookslike a walnut and it's a cookie that
is filled with boiled condensed milk.
It's delicious.
So every Christmas now I makethis, and my partner is obsessed.
And yes, Jerremy, you have to try.
Jerremy & Svetlana (04:22):
I would like a delicious cookie for Christmas.
That sounds great.
Oh my goodness.
That's not what I get.
That's not what he gets.
Nope.
I get herring under thefur coat for Christmas.
Olga Kay (04:31):
no.
Jerremy & Svetlana (04:33):
He does every Christmas.
I make that beautifulsalad that he is oh my God,
Olga Kay (04:38):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jerremy & Svetlana (04:40):
I love it.
Olga Kay (04:41):
And we, I live in Los Angeles, so we do have a few Russian restaurants,
but not a lot of them survive long term.
And I remember one of my favoriterestaurants in New York, it was
Ukrainian restaurant, and it went out ofbusiness as well, but it was the best.
And they had every single flavoredvodka you could think of, and
(05:02):
experience was incredible.
And they still shut down becausenot a lot of people like it.
Jerremy & Svetlana (05:07):
Yeah.
Unless if it's a Russianrestaurant, unless you are Russian,
Ukrainian, like Soviet Union,you're not going to go there.
Olga Kay (05:14):
Yeah.
Jerremy & Svetlana (05:14):
As you said, like you're not going to wake
up and say, I'm going to go toRussian restaurant for experience.
You might do it once.
You'll taste their foot andyou're like, I will be just fine.
I'll open this question up for Davealso or anyone who wants to answer.
What's the biggest myth Americansbelieve about immigrants?
That we are taking their jobs.
(05:36):
Okay.
I feel it is a crazy myth.
A lot of those jobs that I've been rightnow done by immigrants, most of the
immigrants that do not speak the language,Americans don't wanna do those jobs.
Like Americans are privileged.
(05:56):
They want things easy.
They do not want towork more than 40 hours.
They do not want to work three jobs.
And they also very entitled and feellike they do just the best job ever
they didn't actually see other jobs.
And yes, a lot of times we have todo those jobs because Americans don't
(06:20):
wanna do those jobs and those arethe only jobs that are available.
when I was illegal, I was puttingflyers, pizza flyers at 6:00 AM
in someone else's apartments.
Like what American Wakes up was like,this is my job, don't take my job.
Please take it fine.
Olga Kay (06:37):
I also
Jerremy & Svetlana (06:37):
yes, go ahead.
Olga Kay (06:38):
for your previous question.
You said the culture shock, what wasthe biggest thing where you're like, oh,
you in America now, like what happened?
I was in a circus.
I was 16.
We were rehearsing our show and I rememberwe're in the middle of rehearsing one of
the acts and something was not working.
We just had to figure outhow to fit it into the show.
And I remember somebody walks in andgoes, okay, it's lunch everybody.
(07:02):
And my mind was blown.
In Russia, you don't take lunch.
You work until you fix the problem.
Where in America you have labor lawsand you have to stop, and you have to
let people go, have lunch, and then youcome back and you start over, which a
lot of times it'll take you longer toget going, but that's just how it goes.
Dave (07:22):
I think my answer depends on where you're at, right?
I think, you know, I grew up inWashington, DC and I think if you're
in an urban environment, I think oneof the biggest myths that you have
are immigrants are really great.
And the reality is, is immigrants are justimmigrants and they're just people, right?
And I think if you live outside ofurban environments, immigrants are
(07:45):
really scary and they're othered.
And then I've seen it in communitieswhere maybe agricultural communities,
immigrants are just integrated.
So I think it really just sort ofdepends, you know, like there, there
seems to be like odd black and white.
Mentalities around things.
And when we remove those barriersyou know, like, it's like, wow, these
(08:06):
are just people and they just are,they're just from someplace else.
But then again, you know, like ifyou spend any time in America, you
are from someplace else, right?
Like, I'm, I'm from Washington, I livedin San Francisco, I lived in Miami.
Like, I'm from somewhere else.
And it's just, it's just people.
So that's what I think the mythsaround immigration are, is that
it gets black and white and it'slike, nah, people are people.
Jerremy & Svetlana (08:28):
People are people.
That is a statement from DC Dave Conley.
Very accurate as well.
All good.
Just wanna say thank you so muchfor taking your time to be here
and share with us your stories.
Share with us your victories of howyou overcame and how you are now just
such a rockstar American who createsvalue for people all over the world.
(08:51):
And it's Ana.
Thank you for sharing with us differentopinions, beliefs, thoughts on how we can
collaborate and come together as humans,as citizens to embark on love and healing.
It's gonna be an incredible episodefor every single person to listen.
And please feel free to share thisepisode with any of your friends
if they are immigrants or not.
(09:12):
We would love a five star reviewand they can share this episode.
They can tag us, solve USA Pod onX, or Solving America's Problems.
on Instagram, Olga Solana.
you so much for your time.
Thank you for having us.
. Jerremy (09:29):
What did we learn, Dave?
What did we learn?
Dave (09:32):
What did we learn?
Jerremy (09:34):
One thing that I definitely learned is the rhetoric.
The advertisement that come to America.
We have everything that you want,your dreams, the opportunity
that's still very much alive andprobably has been and probably will
continue to be for a very long time.
This is another statement byyou that we as a country have.
(09:59):
The best immigration policy process,although it's still flawed and it's
still archaic and still muddied at times,comparatively, we're still nailing it.
We're still doing quite well.
And that brings me hope because there,there can certainly be changes, there
can certainly be shifts, and I thinkSolana in this episode said that
(10:20):
really the mindset probably could,that could shift into is just one of.
Abundance, one of opportunity,one of prosperity.
One that saying, Hey,there's plenty to go around.
There's more than enough.
We can figure this out.
It's okay for us to do that, right?
It's okay for us to go, Hey,listen, we need more immigrants.
We want more people.
(10:41):
This is going to be something that's gonnaprovide more versus take away from, right?
That scarcity mindset of if immigrantscome into this nation, then.
If Americans aren't gonna have anyjobs, I think you need to be worried
a lot more about robots and AI takingyour jobs than you do immigrants.
That's actually happening for sure.
So we need to continueto figure out a way.
(11:03):
To build together, to createmore, to scale more, to entertain
more, to have more, right.
That's really the mindset of abundance,and I think that the right people
in place, the right policy changes,the right metrics and the right
discussions, the right stories, theright conversations and communications,
I think would create space for that.
And I also learned that in probablyabout six of our overall general topics.
(11:29):
Police reform being one of them, andnow immigration, that it's the legal
process that is one of the largestbottlenecks and probably the thing
that needs to get solved the fastest.
What did you learn DC.
Dave (11:47):
I learned that immigrants are tough as nails.
They're.
Bad asses.
Jerremy (11:51):
Bad.
Dave (11:52):
I hear people complaining about their coffee, right?
And the hoops, the bureaucracy the fear.
I don't think that the vastmajority of people, certainly
the vast majority of Americans.
Would put up with any of that.
If we had anything that we had todo as native born Americans, that
was a of what immigrants have to gothrough, we would lose our minds.
(12:15):
There would be riots in the streets.
Every politician would be thrownout like it would be bedlam.
And we kept on going and we did it.
I am blown away about,their bravery and the grit.
And I don't think that story isheard about immigrants because
their story is not unique.
Their story is pretty typical,even easier in some ways.
(12:37):
One of the big things I'velearned through this series is.
America is so good at thisand equally awful at it.
And the immigrants who go throughthis process and become American
citizens are like super citizens.
Like they are patrioticand they are proud.
And they are strong and they're tough.
And like they come here and theysucceed over and over again.
(13:00):
That's what I learned,like it sucks and they are.
Amazing.
Just truly amazing.
Jerremy (13:07):
That part I do love.
Yeah.
When, if you come here andmost people come here, I think
Phila brought this point.
They come here, they really wanna be here.
They probably good chancethey're risking their life.
Or, danger, physical danger 'cause it'snot easy to get here from another nation,
FYI, so it's probably gonna be very hard.
(13:28):
They wanna be here.
You mentioned this in another place,they had to skip all the other countries
that they could have easily gone to.
It probably would bealmost if not as safe.
They're skipping them.
They just go, they keep going.
They keep walking throughall the different countries
and borders to get here.
So the people that do make itreally wanna be here, and they're
not gonna give it up easily.
(13:48):
And so they're gonna try, they'regonna produce, they're gonna provide,
they're gonna create, and they're reallygoing to be a bedrock of this nation.
They're gonna be your school teachers.
Janitors, they're gonna beyour construction workers.
They're gonna be your individualsthat are building this country from
the inside out, the people that wemight not give a lot of credit to
they're gonna win because they have to.
(14:11):
It's no longer a for them, it becomes amust, and that must becomes a standard,
and that standard dictates their life.
I also learned, Dave, that I thinkthat we got some solutions, man.
I think we're getting to a point wherea lot of immigrants really like the
idea, and I do as well along with theimmigration attorney, like some type
of checklist credit, credit score esquetype of approach where it's like proof
(14:34):
to us have the system in place that youcan, build live here, maintain, create.
It's trackable.
It's 2025, right?
Like we can easily build something that'strackable, that's replicatable, that's
easy, that's simple to install, thatpeople can willingly sign up for and be a
part of where they can pay into a system.
(14:56):
They can be a part of the systemwhere we do make it faster, easier,
quicker to be a citizen here.
Dave (15:02):
So our.
This is our final episode.
We'll have a wrap up.
That'll be our next one from this.
But I want you thinking about this.
Okay, this is my thought experimentbetween now and when we do
our, what did we, our overall,what did we learn in this?
Because I keep hearing thisone thing, which is, it was
hard and I'm better from it.
I'm curious on the solution side, if.
(15:25):
' cause we've also heard, it'soh, let's make it easier.
Let's make it faster.
Let's make it, and I'm wondering if no.
We keep it hard, we just takeall the stupid out of it.
Like we keep, we pull out thebureaucracy, we pull out the confusion
and the fear and the uncertainty.
But it, it's still hard, right?
Like maybe it still isthis trial in a sense.
(15:45):
I don't know if that's right ornot, but I wanna think about it.
Because.
There is some value to that.
I don't know if maybe it's not fair.
I don't know that's whatI'm gonna be thinking about.
I ask that maybe you do too.
Or maybe ask your lovely wife.
Jerremy (15:58):
In our next episode, ladies and gentlemen, it's gonna be an absolute
doozy where both Dave and myself discussare we removing the greatest gifts that
immigrants give themselves, that Americagives them as well the challenge to
create and the obstacle to become better.
We'll see you in the next episodeof solving America's Problem.
"We've covered the journeys, the reforms, and the fixes—now let's
get real about the everyday stuffthat makes America feel like home...
or totally baffling.
From cranberry sauce on mashed potatoesto the myth that immigrants 'steal
jobs,' Olga and Svetlana share thecultural quirks, the laughs, and
the deeper truths about fitting in.
(00:21):
And wait till you hear whythey call new citizens 'super
Americans'—it's a revelation."
Jerremy & Svetlana (00:26):
But just as an exciting question that I think
would be enjoyable for me and Daveto hear what's one thing you still
find confusing about us culture?
Olga Kay (00:38):
Eating mashed potatoes with cranberry sauce.
Jerremy & Svetlana (00:43):
I would go with mashed potatoes with the skin on top too.
Okay.
We never, ever, we had all eatenlike that are not cooked, or
broccoli that is not cooked.
Olga Kay (00:53):
Oh, honey, on top of fried chicken,
Jerremy & Svetlana (00:58):
Oh, first of all, honey, on everything is amazing to be
Dave (01:02):
GRA Gravy.
Olga Kay (01:04):
I got comfortable with the skins and potatoes because I've learned that
there's so many more vitamins in the skin.
So I'm like, okay, I'll deal with that.
I'm thinking, like I'msuch an American now.
My mom would always say, oh,you're such an American now.
And it's because, I prioritize workand I like to accomplish things and
(01:25):
I like certain things certain way.
Jerremy & Svetlana (01:29):
What a great compliment to be called American.
Olga Kay (01:32):
I guess if my mom were to answer this question, she would say, what a weird
concept of putting ice in your water.
No ice in water, please.
That was the biggest thing.
Jerremy & Svetlana (01:44):
So do you still find yourself doing that still?
Olga Kay (01:46):
I
Jerremy & Svetlana (01:47):
I.
Olga Kay (01:48):
I chill my water, but I don't put ice in it.
Jerremy & Svetlana (01:51):
She was like, I don't need any ice.
I'm like, how?
How are you drinkingthis water with no ice?
This is mind blowing to me.
Olga Kay (01:58):
Yep.
There you
Jerremy & Svetlana (01:59):
There you
Dave (02:00):
I went the other way.
My boo is Turkish.
I couldn't even imagine iceand water at this point.
So you both mentioned food.
What is your comfort food?
Olga Kay (02:09):
In Russia, I grew up eating pelini, which is the meat dumplings, and I
ate them ever since I was seven years old,and I'm still obsessed with it in America.
So many foods, I love Indian food.
Is that an answer?
That's something I could never havein Russia, so I love Indian food.
Jerremy & Svetlana (02:27):
Yes, I feel like everything that was made,
like bread type of things, likeI feel like we grew up on bread.
My grandma would be always bacon,pieros, all kind of things.
And so every time I am in that likerooted, soulful energy, like I wanted
to make something hardy and it wouldhave, some element of flour in it.
(02:52):
So that is definitely it.
It's just a part of aDNA fun question for me.
are there very few Russian restaurants.
Olga Kay (03:04):
Good
Jerremy & Svetlana: you, it's not that good. (03:04):
undefined
It's not,
Olga Kay (03:07):
okay and I have to
Jerremy & Svetlana (03:08):
it's the same stuff.
It's the same stuff.
It's same ingredients, whichjust mixed up in a different way.
Olga Kay (03:15):
mayo
Jerremy & Svetlana (03:16):
A different way.
Olga Kay (03:17):
I don't know.
I have to disagree a little bit becauseI love Russian food, but my partner is
American and he is I cannot have this.
This is, it is just,everything is mixed with Mayo.
I just cannot have this coupleof things he enjoys, but he would
never wake up in the morning.
He's Hey, we should go out tonight.
Let's go to a Russian restaurant.
That would never happen.
Jerremy & Svetlana (03:36):
She's never requested that.
Exactly.
It's never once.
Olga Kay (03:39):
Here's what happens to me.
I do crave Russian, especiallywhen I got pregnant.
I was like, oh, I wanna do is eat Russianfood and I would order all this Russian
food and then it would come to me, andthen I would say I could make it better
and then I just end up making it at home.
But I don't make it it is justa special occasion for me where
I'll make all the Russian food.
However, during Christmas in Russia,we would always make oreshki.
(04:04):
Let's see.
Yeah, so it's like a really it lookslike a walnut and it's a cookie that
is filled with boiled condensed milk.
It's delicious.
So every Christmas now I makethis, and my partner is obsessed.
And yes, Jerremy, you have to try.
Jerremy & Svetlana (04:22):
I would like a delicious cookie for Christmas.
That sounds great.
Oh my goodness.
That's not what I get.
That's not what he gets.
Nope.
I get herring under thefur coat for Christmas.
Olga Kay (04:31):
no.
Jerremy & Svetlana (04:33):
He does every Christmas.
I make that beautifulsalad that he is oh my God,
Olga Kay (04:38):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jerremy & Svetlana (04:40):
I love it.
Olga Kay (04:41):
And we, I live in Los Angeles, so we do have a few Russian restaurants,
but not a lot of them survive long term.
And I remember one of my favoriterestaurants in New York, it was
Ukrainian restaurant, and it went out ofbusiness as well, but it was the best.
And they had every single flavoredvodka you could think of, and
(05:02):
experience was incredible.
And they still shut down becausenot a lot of people like it.
Jerremy & Svetlana (05:07):
Yeah.
Unless if it's a Russianrestaurant, unless you are Russian,
Ukrainian, like Soviet Union,you're not going to go there.
Olga Kay (05:14):
Yeah.
Jerremy & Svetlana (05:14):
As you said, like you're not going to wake
up and say, I'm going to go toRussian restaurant for experience.
You might do it once.
You'll taste their foot andyou're like, I will be just fine.
I'll open this question up for Davealso or anyone who wants to answer.
What's the biggest myth Americansbelieve about immigrants?
That we are taking their jobs.
(05:36):
Okay.
I feel it is a crazy myth.
A lot of those jobs that I've been rightnow done by immigrants, most of the
immigrants that do not speak the language,Americans don't wanna do those jobs.
Like Americans are privileged.
(05:56):
They want things easy.
They do not want towork more than 40 hours.
They do not want to work three jobs.
And they also very entitled and feellike they do just the best job ever
they didn't actually see other jobs.
And yes, a lot of times we have todo those jobs because Americans don't
(06:20):
wanna do those jobs and those arethe only jobs that are available.
when I was illegal, I was puttingflyers, pizza flyers at 6:00 AM
in someone else's apartments.
Like what American Wakes up was like,this is my job, don't take my job.
Please take it fine.
Olga Kay (06:37):
I also
Jerremy & Svetlana (06:37):
yes, go ahead.
Olga Kay (06:38):
for your previous question.
You said the culture shock, what wasthe biggest thing where you're like, oh,
you in America now, like what happened?
I was in a circus.
I was 16.
We were rehearsing our show and I rememberwe're in the middle of rehearsing one of
the acts and something was not working.
We just had to figure outhow to fit it into the show.
And I remember somebody walks in andgoes, okay, it's lunch everybody.
(07:02):
And my mind was blown.
In Russia, you don't take lunch.
You work until you fix the problem.
Where in America you have labor lawsand you have to stop, and you have to
let people go, have lunch, and then youcome back and you start over, which a
lot of times it'll take you longer toget going, but that's just how it goes.
Dave (07:22):
I think my answer depends on where you're at, right?
I think, you know, I grew up inWashington, DC and I think if you're
in an urban environment, I think oneof the biggest myths that you have
are immigrants are really great.
And the reality is, is immigrants are justimmigrants and they're just people, right?
And I think if you live outside ofurban environments, immigrants are
(07:45):
really scary and they're othered.
And then I've seen it in communitieswhere maybe agricultural communities,
immigrants are just integrated.
So I think it really just sort ofdepends, you know, like there, there
seems to be like odd black and white.
Mentalities around things.
And when we remove those barriersyou know, like, it's like, wow, these
(08:06):
are just people and they just are,they're just from someplace else.
But then again, you know, like ifyou spend any time in America, you
are from someplace else, right?
Like, I'm, I'm from Washington, I livedin San Francisco, I lived in Miami.
Like, I'm from somewhere else.
And it's just, it's just people.
So that's what I think the mythsaround immigration are, is that
it gets black and white and it'slike, nah, people are people.
Jerremy & Svetlana (08:28):
People are people.
That is a statement from DC Dave Conley.
Very accurate as well.
All good.
Just wanna say thank you so muchfor taking your time to be here
and share with us your stories.
Share with us your victories of howyou overcame and how you are now just
such a rockstar American who createsvalue for people all over the world.
(08:51):
And it's Ana.
Thank you for sharing with us differentopinions, beliefs, thoughts on how we can
collaborate and come together as humans,as citizens to embark on love and healing.
It's gonna be an incredible episodefor every single person to listen.
And please feel free to share thisepisode with any of your friends
if they are immigrants or not.
(09:12):
We would love a five star reviewand they can share this episode.
They can tag us, solve USA Pod onX, or Solving America's Problems.
on Instagram, Olga Solana.
you so much for your time.
Thank you for having us.
. Jerremy (09:29):
What did we learn, Dave?
What did we learn?
Dave (09:32):
What did we learn?
Jerremy (09:34):
One thing that I definitely learned is the rhetoric.
The advertisement that come to America.
We have everything that you want,your dreams, the opportunity
that's still very much alive andprobably has been and probably will
continue to be for a very long time.
This is another statement byyou that we as a country have.
(09:59):
The best immigration policy process,although it's still flawed and it's
still archaic and still muddied at times,comparatively, we're still nailing it.
We're still doing quite well.
And that brings me hope because there,there can certainly be changes, there
can certainly be shifts, and I thinkSolana in this episode said that
(10:20):
really the mindset probably could,that could shift into is just one of.
Abundance, one of opportunity,one of prosperity.
One that saying, Hey,there's plenty to go around.
There's more than enough.
We can figure this out.
It's okay for us to do that, right?
It's okay for us to go, Hey,listen, we need more immigrants.
We want more people.
(10:41):
This is going to be something that's gonnaprovide more versus take away from, right?
That scarcity mindset of if immigrantscome into this nation, then.
If Americans aren't gonna have anyjobs, I think you need to be worried
a lot more about robots and AI takingyour jobs than you do immigrants.
That's actually happening for sure.
So we need to continueto figure out a way.
(11:03):
To build together, to createmore, to scale more, to entertain
more, to have more, right.
That's really the mindset of abundance,and I think that the right people
in place, the right policy changes,the right metrics and the right
discussions, the right stories, theright conversations and communications,
I think would create space for that.
And I also learned that in probablyabout six of our overall general topics.
(11:29):
Police reform being one of them, andnow immigration, that it's the legal
process that is one of the largestbottlenecks and probably the thing
that needs to get solved the fastest.
What did you learn DC.
Dave (11:47):
I learned that immigrants are tough as nails.
They're.
Bad asses.
Jerremy (11:51):
Bad.
Dave (11:52):
I hear people complaining about their coffee, right?
And the hoops, the bureaucracy the fear.
I don't think that the vastmajority of people, certainly
the vast majority of Americans.
Would put up with any of that.
If we had anything that we had todo as native born Americans, that
was a of what immigrants have to gothrough, we would lose our minds.
(12:15):
There would be riots in the streets.
Every politician would be thrownout like it would be bedlam.
And we kept on going and we did it.
I am blown away about,their bravery and the grit.
And I don't think that story isheard about immigrants because
their story is not unique.
Their story is pretty typical,even easier in some ways.
(12:37):
One of the big things I'velearned through this series is.
America is so good at thisand equally awful at it.
And the immigrants who go throughthis process and become American
citizens are like super citizens.
Like they are patrioticand they are proud.
And they are strong and they're tough.
And like they come here and theysucceed over and over again.
(13:00):
That's what I learned,like it sucks and they are.
Amazing.
Just truly amazing.
Jerremy (13:07):
That part I do love.
Yeah.
When, if you come here andmost people come here, I think
Phila brought this point.
They come here, they really wanna be here.
They probably good chancethey're risking their life.
Or, danger, physical danger 'cause it'snot easy to get here from another nation,
FYI, so it's probably gonna be very hard.
(13:28):
They wanna be here.
You mentioned this in another place,they had to skip all the other countries
that they could have easily gone to.
It probably would bealmost if not as safe.
They're skipping them.
They just go, they keep going.
They keep walking throughall the different countries
and borders to get here.
So the people that do make itreally wanna be here, and they're
not gonna give it up easily.
(13:48):
And so they're gonna try, they'regonna produce, they're gonna provide,
they're gonna create, and they're reallygoing to be a bedrock of this nation.
They're gonna be your school teachers.
Janitors, they're gonna beyour construction workers.
They're gonna be your individualsthat are building this country from
the inside out, the people that wemight not give a lot of credit to
they're gonna win because they have to.
(14:11):
It's no longer a for them, it becomes amust, and that must becomes a standard,
and that standard dictates their life.
I also learned, Dave, that I thinkthat we got some solutions, man.
I think we're getting to a point wherea lot of immigrants really like the
idea, and I do as well along with theimmigration attorney, like some type
of checklist credit, credit score esquetype of approach where it's like proof
(14:34):
to us have the system in place that youcan, build live here, maintain, create.
It's trackable.
It's 2025, right?
Like we can easily build something that'strackable, that's replicatable, that's
easy, that's simple to install, thatpeople can willingly sign up for and be a
part of where they can pay into a system.
(14:56):
They can be a part of the systemwhere we do make it faster, easier,
quicker to be a citizen here.
Dave (15:02):
So our.
This is our final episode.
We'll have a wrap up.
That'll be our next one from this.
But I want you thinking about this.
Okay, this is my thought experimentbetween now and when we do
our, what did we, our overall,what did we learn in this?
Because I keep hearing thisone thing, which is, it was
hard and I'm better from it.
I'm curious on the solution side, if.
(15:25):
' cause we've also heard, it'soh, let's make it easier.
Let's make it faster.
Let's make it, and I'm wondering if no.
We keep it hard, we just takeall the stupid out of it.
Like we keep, we pull out thebureaucracy, we pull out the confusion
and the fear and the uncertainty.
But it, it's still hard, right?
Like maybe it still isthis trial in a sense.
(15:45):
I don't know if that's right ornot, but I wanna think about it.
Because.
There is some value to that.
I don't know if maybe it's not fair.
I don't know that's whatI'm gonna be thinking about.
I ask that maybe you do too.
Or maybe ask your lovely wife.
Jerremy (15:58):
In our next episode, ladies and gentlemen, it's gonna be an absolute
doozy where both Dave and myself discussare we removing the greatest gifts that
immigrants give themselves, that Americagives them as well the challenge to
create and the obstacle to become better.
We'll see you in the next episodeof solving America's Problem.
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