December 16, 2025 • 53 mins
You wanted cheap calories and magic pills, so the food and pharma giants built exactly that trap. Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley finish the health series exposing why cooking skills vanished, how “healthy” eating got priced like a luxury, and why the real fix isn’t another reform—it’s you in the kitchen and the community. Personal responsibility, small habits, and zero excuses. The most practical episode we’ve dropped.
Timestamps:
- (00:00) WDWL Health – what we’re wrapping up
- (00:31) Why this series even happened
- (01:24) Looking back at the big takeaways
- (02:00) Holistic healing vs Big Pharma showdown
- (06:22) The real cost of eating healthy (and why it feels insane)
- (09:32) Jerremy and Dave’s own transformation stories
- (17:25) Why education is the cheat code nobody teaches
- (27:30) Alternative health paths that actually work
- (29:18) How your choices screw (or save) your kids
- (29:47) The systemic mess in healthcare right now
- (30:36) Personal choices still trump everything
- (31:59) Insurance insanity and sky-high bills
- (34:09) ER bottlenecks and scary misdiagnoses
- (40:56) Personal responsibility – no more coping
- (47:36) Building community for real change
- (51:51) Final mic-drop and what to do tomorrow
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Alex (00:00):
In this wrap-up episode of the health series, Jerremy and Dave admit
they walked in blaming Big Pharma,Big Food, and insurance… and walked
out realizing the system mostly givesAmerica exactly what it keeps demanding:
CHEAP calories and quick fixes.
They dig into the raw numbers on whatreal food actually costs, why nobody
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ever taught us to cook, and how onemom’s switch to whole foods saved her
family six figures in medical bills.
[leaning in] Welcome toSolving America’s Problems.
Jerremy Newsome (00:31):
Ladies and gentlemen, we are back.
I have learned that people love thisportion of solving America's problems.
This portion, specificallybeing, what did we learn?
'cause Dave, that's what we're doing,man, over the next few years, we are
out there to really learn, understand,tweak, adjust, implement, find out what's
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working, and find out what's not working.
It's a long list.
Have conversations with professionals,really speak to individuals and
just really uncover some truth.
And for you and I learn, and for ourlisteners learn, it's more about.
Knowing how to uncover andknowing how to dig deep.
(01:15):
And I think we did a great job of that.
This is really the makingAmerica healthy again.
What did we learn?
And it's gonna be an awesome summaryand I'm really pumped for it, Dave.
Dave Conley (01:24):
Yeah, four great episodes across, how many?
Almost 10 episodes, right?
Maybe a little bit more.
10 episodes just great people.
We had Dr. Holden, Dr. Dill.
We had Nick and his beautiful wife,Rihanna on a separate episode.
And then Zen.
Oh my goodness.
What I know I started one way in thisand I ended up in a different place.
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And I think that's thedefinition of learning, isn't it?
Jerremy Newsome (01:49):
Yeah, I think so.
Going with a belief for mindset,getting some things shifted,
getting some tweaks, adjustments.
new understandings.
One of the big ones, I think, andagain, I'm very excited to go back
through so many of our episodes aswe continue to adapt and to grow.
But one of the ones that does standout to me in a big way was the
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distinctions in the difference probablybetween the holistic healing, which
I would define probably as food andgoing that route versus what a lot of
individuals, especially front runnerslike Mary Williamson for presidency,
they're stating it's big pharma.
It's only big pharma.
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They're doing it.
Take 'em down.
They're making us sick.
Dave Conley (02:36):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (02:37):
then we blended a lot of the healthcare and the
insurance aspect as well together.
But for me, building a bridge betweenboth of those and realizing for you and
I to truly solve a lot of these problems.
And do it from a campaignadvocacy approach as well.
Doing this from a, what I'm going to bedoing as president, it seems extremely
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clear to me that without question,helping understand change, shift and adapt
different food ideologies, different foodbeliefs, and different adaptations of
food, like how we can eat, where we'reeating, how we're eating, how much we're
eating, when we're eating, these thingscan be very quickly implemented for
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the most part, without even trying toattack the quote unquote huge behemoth
of a problem that a lot of peoplefeel would never, ever truly change.
The big pharma, the big sick caresystem as it was called, and rather than
attacking that saying, okay, listen.
How about we educate and informand update, and we all tweak and
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adjust our habits, our eatingpractices, what we know to be true,
and start focusing on a lot of that.
That was really a big summation forme from bringing all these together,
making me feel like there's actuallya better solution there than feeling
hopeless and feeling worried andfeeling like we never have a shot.
Dave Conley (04:06):
It a hundred percent.
I think you're right on with that.
I came in this thinking big badinsurance or big pharma or big food,
like they're the ones keeping us sick.
They're the ones keeping us down.
And
what I know now is that we aregetting exactly what we want.
We want cheap food.
So it's going to be GMO, it's goingto be full of pesticides because
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that's how you get cheap food.
Want.
Healthcare that, basically doesn'twork in a lot of ways, and it
has a lot of perverse incentivesbecause we want it that way.
we need it to be in a way that isincomprehensible and you don't know
what to do and you don't know becauseyou're not spending any time on it.
What I know for sure is that our food andour insurance and our healthcare, they're
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all tied together, and if we solve forone, the other ones are gonna follow.
Jerremy Newsome (05:02):
Yep.
Precisely.
And I think that was reallyaddressed in all the conversations.
And yes, of course there's veryminute and very individual policies
and practices that we can change andshould change and would like to change.
It will make things better, easier,faster, quicker, more efficient.
But get down to the brass tacks,you've mentioned it a couple times
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and we've talked about throughoutthe episode, throughout the podcast.
The price of things, you'regonna get what you pay for.
And a lot of Americans both wantand need really inexpensive.
So they might therefore just bereceiving just that if you do not pay
a lot of money for food, it's probablynot gonna be extremely good for you.
And knowing that not only is that gonnabe what's more available, more abundant
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is the cheaper, more processed, more GMOfood because the companies wanna make
money and we're in a capitalist societyand we're not gonna take it away from
them having the opportunity to make money.
ultimately, we as consumers are decidingwhat we eat and what we don't eat.
And we're also gonna decide howmuch money they make and don't make.
If we spend a lot less with them asconsumers and start focusing more on
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the organic and the individual, andthe farmers and the local, we can help
increase the awareness and decrease thecost through more supply and more demand.
Dave Conley (06:22):
So let, I wanna really explore that cost side with you and
so that I understand it, which is
when I hear organic, I hear expensive.
And what I'm also hearing is you'reeither paying for it now or later.
And then I did the math on my breakfast.
I have this most mornings.
I have some rolled oats.
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I have it with some almond milk and Ithrow in some chia seeds and a little
bit of honey and I let it go overnight.
These overnight oats, andI'm obsessed with them.
Jerremy Newsome (06:54):
So good.
Dave Conley (06:56):
I didn't know anything actually.
I was this year old.
when I found out about these things,like the whole world of overnight
oats completely miss my radar.
But now I'm making up for 50years of not knowing about it.
'cause I'm having itjust about every day now.
it's incredibly filling.
And I did all the math on it and everysingle one of my breakfasts, and I
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throw some blueberries on top of itcosts me exactly $4 and 30 cents.
Now most of that is that organicalmond milk that I use, and it
just occurred to me if you just usewhole milk on it, you could probably
get this down to $2 and 50 cents.
there's a certain aspect of thisof wondering what you're paying
for and where you're paying for it.
And I think it was Zen who said that,she ended up saving like a hundred
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thousand dollars in medical bills becauseher son started eating whole food.
Jerremy Newsome (07:47):
Which is wild to think about.
The truth is to me, if we spend more.
On food.
As a nation, this is gonna be acrazy concept, but if you spend
more on food and the food is higherquality, you actually eat less.
And if you eat less,you will be healthier.
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Now, this doesn't meanlike you don't eat at all.
This just simply means eating less.
Instead of four to five meals aday, snacking, eating three to 4,000
calories, which I looked it up in arandom study on Twitter the other day.
I think the average Americaneats 3,400 calories a day.
Dave Conley (08:26):
Wow.
Jerremy Newsome (08:26):
So eats and drinks like consumes three, 400 calories a day.
And so that's why if you alwayslook at the back of a box, whatever,
they always kinda give theiringredients and they're like, this
is based on a 3000 calorie, diet.
3000 calories a lot.
If I'm doing legitimate, actual, fullon training for a competition, I'm
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eating 35 to 4,000 calories a day.
Dave Conley (08:53):
And, yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (08:55):
and so that means like I'm gonna be doing
some type of very long distance.
Now, if I'm trying for speed,strength, size and getting really
beefy and meaty, then I might needto do 4,500 or 5,000 calories.
It's like that day, right?
That's a lot.
But for me, most individualsare eating that and they're
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not running 45 miles that week.
That's a huge difference because itis science in science out math in
math, out calories in, calories out.
If you eat less than youburn, you lose weight.
End of story.
Thanks for playing.
And you have a personalstory of this too Dave?
Tell the world.
Dave Conley (09:36):
Wow.
I think I just turned 40 years old andI was in a job that I hated as a senior
executive, I smoked a pack of cigarettesa day, and I weighed 330 pounds.
And it's not like Ididn't have the education.
It's not like I didn'tknow what I was doing.
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It had been like a lifelong thing.
I had always been I had always beenheavy and, a lot of it was psychological.
And at some point in my life, I justgave up saying I'm just going to always
be this way and this is who I am.
At that same time my wife of 13 yearsunexpectedly got ill, and a few days
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later she passed away out of the blue.
She was fine one dayand then she was gone.
And I don't wish thatkind of pain on anybody.
And I would never say that wasmy moment that, that was the
big change because it wasn't.
But what I realized then at thatmoment, and what started this
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journey of losing 150 pounds, likean entire human, was learning to love
myself as much as Carol loved me.
and it was small choices.
I think it was Sean that saidDr. Dill, Dr. Sean Dill, he said,
sunlight and exercise and water.
These are the basic thingsof life and they're free.
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And it was just that it was alittle bit of water every day and
making sure that's what I was doing.
And it was a little bit of movement,making sure I was moving and the
eating better was coming along.
And it was the small changesthat made a big difference.
And over the course of fouryears, I lost 150 pounds.
And that was with the benefit ofknowing all of these things, right?
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I think a lot of people are trapped inthese, they're on their treadmills, right?
A hundred percent of their timeis already taken up and they
have their kids to worry about.
They have their job to worryabout, or they don't have a job
and they're worried about that.
Or, like they have a million differentthings and they just need a little bit
of time to themselves to like decompress.
And so it's not about not knowing itis making simple, small changes every
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day, taking personal responsibilityin it, that changes the whole system.
Jerremy Newsome (11:58):
Small steps.
You have to, in order to do a marathon,you have to take a lot of steps and
there is no other formula for it.
There's a lot of steps to betaken and they can be big steps,
they could be small steps.
You gotta take a lot of steps, butif you keep doing enough steps,
there is a finish line at the end.
And for you, man, I justwanna say congrats on that.
(12:18):
But you brought up a great point that wedid talk about in this series and right
in this kind of like recap as we talkedabout, like Sean brought up the six
best doctors being sleep, water, breath,sunshine, good food, meditation, right?
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or meditation slash nature.
Doing things that probably ultimatelydo not cost that much money.
if any money, but ultimately canrevitalize your life and change so much
and create such a big impact for you.
What I heard also is the bigshift is just drinking more water.
lot of times as Americans, wefeel tired 'cause man, dude,
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freaking life is hard, right?
You have so much weight andpressure and the cost of living
is skyrocketing everywhere inthe United States of America.
And we all feel that pressure.
Every one of us does.
However, when we gotta keepgoing and we get energetically
drained and we get tired.
And so what do we do?
We slam our face with a bunch ofenergy drinks and caffeine and
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coffee over and over and over.
And while that can work, absolutely.
And there's even better medicalgrade available, caffeine and other
supplements that work even moreefficiently than a Monster energy
drink or a Celsius energy drink.
There are healthieralternatives out there.
If you start drinking a bunchof water, you know what happens?
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You don't get as tired.
It's wild.
If you drink a bunch of water and you eata bunch of apples, you don't get tired.
You have more energy.
And yeah, you're peeing a lot.
You are, that's gonna happen.
But you gotta piece so much you're alwaysmoving and your energy's gonna be up,
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and so you, you just have more energy.
And so the tweaks, the simplicity.
The thing that I'm so excited aboutultimately, and I hope all of our
listeners hear this, my really incrediblebig vision and dream is to simply be
a president that pours in light, love,happiness, and positivity into the world.
Imagine if there was a voice for thepeople, of the people that was the
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people, and was able to come on everysingle day and instead of battling China.
Or discussing immigrants or talkingabout all the negative in the world.
If we just had someone who ischampioning the vision of the
people saying, Hey everyone,today's gonna be an incredible day.
I'm excited for you.
I'm excited about your work.
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I'm excited about your job.
I'm excited about your family.
I hope you have the most incredible day.
Smile and go.
Make an incredible impact.
Imagine if we had someone every daythat just poured into the people of this
country, using to your point, positivity.
And secondly, easy small steps of change.
The change does not have to be radical.
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You move more and drink more water.
Boom, life started changing.
You gave up cigarettes.
Bang, life started changing.
Now you give up cigarettes, youbreathe better, you move better, you
smell better, like your nose smellsbetter and you physically as a person
smell better, but you also fun.
Fact, spend less money.
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You do, you spend less money 'causeyou no longer are smoking cigarettes
and cigarettes are There's like alegitimate cost to them and your cost
of living goes up across the boardbecause of rental cars and hotels.
If you ever traveling and you smoke,now it's a whole process because
you have to pay different deposits,healthcare increases if you use tobacco.
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There's so many randomcosts to those lifestyles.
But the lifestyle that you mentioned,Dave is the majority of people, right?
There's more than of this country that'sgonna face that exact challenge of the
obesity of, you mentioned the hamsterwheel, the treadmill of life, where
there's just no singular individualthat's really pouring in grace and
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care and attention and wisdom andwords of affirmation and positivity,
and I can't wait to be that person.
Dave Conley (16:18):
one thing that I don't know if is talked about is the
amount of prejudice that peopleget when they're really heavy.
Like you sense it all the time.
the world is not built for you.
The chairs aren't built.
The planes aren't built thecars, like nothing works.
And I had risen to a very high level inmy field and I had to be exceptionally
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good at it because fortunately I wasmostly in, merit It was that much harder
as somebody who was an overweight smoker.
when somebody is overweight and they'rea smoker, they're like, oh if they're not
taking care of themselves, how could theypossibly be taking care of my company?
there is so much broken when you'reso overweight and knowing that it is
actually just a slow suicide is one ofthose things that needs to be brought up.
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you are overweight and it is onlyyou putting the food in your mouth.
You are the one that's in control.
oh, also would we say thatthis week's solving America's
problems brought to you by water.
Jerremy Newsome (17:16):
brought to you by Dave used to be fat and he drink more water and
move more, and now he's in great shape.
Dave Conley (17:23):
Hey, let me ask you a question though.
Jerremy Newsome (17:24):
Yeah.
Dave Conley (17:25):
Is it, the world here is education.
Education and there is a lot ofresponsibility that was built into this.
Were you ever taught to cook?
Were you taught to eat well?
was there ever a high schoolclass of, what is it called?
Home Act, was there like, if we'renot teaching people how to eat or what
to eat, or if we give them like foodpyramids and say, Hey, have all the corn.
Jerremy Newsome (17:49):
to talk about that good old food pyramid, like that was, that's
still in my mind I'll tell you the momentthat my food practices started shifting
dramatically, but more importantly thanthat, to answer your question, I did have
one class and I believe it was called.
LMS life management skills.
Dave Conley (18:08):
okay.
Jerremy Newsome (18:09):
Best part, it was one semester, so this was in high school.
And so when I say like a semester'sat that time it was an elective.
so you get to choose an elective twicea year and it's six months long or
whatever it was, four or five months long.
And you had two electives ayear that you shifted out of.
So I went to LMS first time I ever sawanyone else have a condom the teacher
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told us how to put a condom on a banana.
And then there was other things I learned.
We learned about goal settingsand writing down goals, and
Learn about cooking.
But to your point, it wasvery basic, extremely rigid.
There wasn't a lot in that particularclass, they still were putting
together this overall agenda ofhere's what you need to do in life.
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Go get a job, go get to college.
Here's how you achieve in collegeand here's how you get into college.
That was probably 85% of the program
Dave Conley (19:00):
Wow.
Jerremy Newsome (19:01):
was just really understanding and adapting.
And again, granted I'm,I'm ancient as well.
Me and you were both ancient, right?
You are higher in thesedimentary, you're whatever.
We're both ancient.
So we're talking 20 years ago that I'm inhigh school and I'm sure it's different.
Hashtag it's not, I have someonein high school now, my kid, and
it's the same exact thing, right?
Gabriel's going through the exact samestuff it's all about just how to get
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into college and how to prepare forcollege and how to beat the college
system, how to get the SATs and sothey can get a good job and whatever.
in an LMS class, I did apersonality assessment.
And so you do the personalityassessment and then the teacher,
this was like a three week process.
You do this big test and then atthe end you get the results back.
And then in the test it teachesyou what your best job and
Dave Conley (19:45):
Alexa, stop thermostat.
Jerremy Newsome (19:46):
then they give you a path of,
Dave Conley (19:48):
Alexa, turn off thermostat.
Jerremy Newsome (19:50):
Sorry, go ahead.
So you go through this life assessment,like who you are, personality assessment.
These jobs are gonna be basedon, your personality and here's
what you should do as a job.
Here's what you should do as a career.
Here's the best schoolpath in order to get there.
Dave Conley (20:08):
oof.
Jerremy Newsome (20:08):
I'm gonna give you two guesses.
What do you think my, like pers permy personality, what job should I be
Off the cuff?
So I'm just excited to see what you say.
Dave Conley (20:18):
oh.
I, preacher,
Jerremy Newsome (20:20):
Ooh,
Dave Conley (20:22):
I would say I don't know.
If you were taking that in thatera, I would say like I would've
slotted you in sales in business,in that world, you're very social
and you like talking with people.
it's like you would kill it in sales.
Jerremy Newsome (20:36):
Yep.
That was exactly it.
Dave Conley (20:37):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (20:38):
literally did my high school personality assessment for me.
So the very number one careerchoice was life insurance salesman.
Dave Conley (20:45):
Wow.
Jerremy Newsome (20:46):
and number two was salesman.
Dave Conley (20:48):
and sales.
Jerremy Newsome (20:49):
I had never really knew what life insurance was until I started
looking it up and I found that NationwideInsurance wasn't very far from my house.
And so I put that on my radar and Idid end up eventually working for them,
which is all fascinating and interesting.
So circling back to all of this, to yourpoint, no, I wasn't taught cooking, right?
Yes.
There are some high schoolsthat have home ec, which is
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referred to like home economics,
Dave Conley (21:13):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (21:13):
very dryly and basically we'll teach kids like the
things in life that you need to do,how money works, how income works, how
your family's balance sheet will look,revenue expenses, credit cards, food,
how to sew, how to do certain things.
Yes, all those are very accurate.
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And there are high schoolsthat will teach that.
But very rarely.
And again, you ready for this tape?
It's an elective, which means kidsget to choose, oh, Do I do home ec?
Do I do LMS?
Do I do pe, do I do art?
Do I do Spanish?
They get to pick.
And that should be, again,the maj, you should pick.
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Do you wanna do reading or math doLMS for sure do home ec for sure.
There are some people who aremore adapted and just, they like
science more than, they like math.
They like history morethan they like science.
They enjoy social studiesmore than they like theater.
There's people that are like in highschool and middle school that are gonna
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be more adapted to doing certain thingsand they know that at an early age.
But to your point, I didn't reallyunderstand food until 20 18, 20 19.
And probably 2020, those threeyears is when I really got it.
And the reason is because I put down$5,500 in 2018 to do an event called
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the 2 9 0 2 9 Everything event.
And that's where you climb a mountain.
This was the snow base in UtahMountain, and you climb it
13 times from bottom to top.
take the gondola down, andoverall that's 32 ish miles and
29,000, 29 feet of elevation gain.
AKA you have 36 hoursto climb Everest, right?
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The equivalent.
and in order to train for it, I hadto look up nutrition and I was asking
myself like, what do athletes do?
And this is what I learned about.
order to perform better, you have to eatbetter and you actually have to eat more.
And you have to come up withthis cycle and this process.
And if you're going to really work out andget strong and go, here's how fats work.
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Here's how glucose works,here's how fat storage works.
Here's how sugar works.
A lot of people think if youeat sugar, you get energy.
That's not entirely true.
In fact, that's very rarely the case.
You have to train yourbody use sugar as energy.
That has to be a trained system, whichmeans your body has to start learning the
difference between burning fat and burningsugar or burning different types of
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sugar, glucose, fructose, to name a few.
So ultimately it's really interesting.
That's when I started learning, 'cause Ihad to put up a bunch of money to enter
into an event that was an endurance event.
It was extremely hard.
I had to learn all about this stuff.
All that to say, to finallyanswer your question.
No, dude I didn't learn any of thisand my mom didn't teach me and she
really tried, although she probablydidn't think I was that interested.
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And truthfully, I probably wasn't.
I'm sure she said, Hey, Jerremy, would youlike to help me learn how to cook this?
And I probably said no.
And I just blocked that out in my mind.
I'm sure that happened.
But as parents, instead ofasking force your 15-year-old
Dave Conley (24:24):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (24:25):
My 15-year-old son wants to play video games every
single day, every hour of the day.
That's what he wants to do.
And that's cool.
can play some games.
there are gonna be requirementsthat I'm gonna give them.
One of the greatest gifts anyparents can give their children
is adversity they can handle.
So you have to give them adversity.
You have to give them a challenge.
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Just yesterday we went to thezoo and I rented these bikes,
which was a great workout.
I was really happy to see alot of other people do these
bikes, but it was like a bike.
That was made for four people.
So you sit on this big bike and everysingle person can pedal and there's
Of seats and people can ride it.
And so it was me, Gabe my wife and thetwo boys, Jason and me, and we were on
this bike and it was me and Gabe doingthe primarily pedaling and everyone
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was just hanging out, which is cool.
But I gave him the steering positionbecause you had to steer this bike
and this bike didn't steer theway you would think it should.
It was very loosey goosey.
So it was fun for himto kinda learn steering.
'cause again, he's 15, he'sgonna start driving soon.
And saying all that to say I forcefullyput him in that position where he didn't
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wanna drive it and he wasn't comfortable.
He was scared about it.
But we went around this whole park,probably five or six miles, dodging kids,
dodging soccer balls, dodging frisbees.
And him learning how to drive ina relatively adverse environment.
A little fear, a littletrepidation, a little hesitation.
But you give that adversity 'causeI'm right there, able to pull
the brake at any time to protecther, to help him or whatever.
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And he had a lot of good learning lessons
I know you all do this, butdads, moms, your kids need
to see you fail at something.
They need to see you.
Put yourself into a thing where youdon't know if you are going to win.
Most of our listeners are incrediblyintelligent, smart, talented people.
And if you have children, askyourself, what is one of the
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best gifts you can give them?
And I'm telling you, it is adversity thatthey can handle and they need to see you.
In adversity.
They need to see how you interact withpotential failure or losing or attempting
or studying or not knowing something.
They wanna see how youstudy and how you learn.
(26:33):
Because when you can impartthose gifts into our kids the
answer is always education.
We're gonna come back to that asthe basic boiler point answer for
pretty much almost any problem thatwe encounter is it will be education.
I was terrified of chiropractic fora long time until I, I jumped off,
(26:55):
I was doing like a ropes course andjumped off the ropes course and ended
up hitting my neck or something onsomething and gave myself whiplash.
And so I went to a chiropractor.
I didn't know what else to do'cause the pain was excruciating
and within a week whiplash was gone.
I was totally fine.
Everything was great.
And so when we had Dr. Sean Dalecome on the podcast and when we
were interviewing him and talkingto him and getting people's take
(27:16):
on chiropractic, it's like that.
Of itself, just the embracing thisof, Hey, you don't have to go to a
specialized doctor if you can't smell.
There are like me, Ican't physically smell.
I'm currently starting to go throughdifferent routes just to see if
I can go in and have invasivesurgery, have your nose and sinuses
(27:39):
peeled apart and ripped apart.
It's go in and have acupuncture, goin and have chiropractic adjustments.
Go in and start figuring out other methodsthat are not necessarily more healthy.
However, they're simplypossibly more approachable.
They're more accessible.
They're easier and faster, andmost likely a lot less expensive.
(28:03):
Back to the healthcare piece.
And so really bringing this whole thingfull circle to just go into what I'm
really passionate about is the morepeople become aware and the more you have.
These people like Zen who are going outand getting a platform where they're like,
listen, I don't know the answers either.
I am here to study, I'm here to learn.
(28:25):
There are tons and tons ofindividuals, millions of Americans
who do not have these answers.
Let's go find 'em together.
Let's learn together.
Let's adapt, grow, change, and evolve.
And as you evolve, you're gonna startunderstanding how to learn how to
study, because you're gonna realizefor sure and very quickly that most
of the things that you do know aren'tactually accurate scientifically.
(28:47):
And you've been taught them 35 yearsago, and they're still holding as
strong as they ever were because youjust never challenged those beliefs.
Dave Conley (28:55):
I couldn't agree more.
we spend half of our lives sleepingand eating and dealing with
bureaucracies and in relationships.
And none of it is taught.
You have to get, half-assed information,maybe online, but you don't know,
And so you end up talking to your friends.
Maybe you get a little bit fromyour parents, but they didn't
get the right information.
(29:15):
So all of that is just up to you.
And the simplicity of just coming backto movement and water and meditation
and all these things are free, right?
Sunlight.
And then, to your point.
Being the example for your kids.
And it's like when they see you movingand like they, if you're sitting in
front of the TV and you're just, that'swhat you're doing and you're smoking
(29:39):
the Marble Reds and you're eating thechips, then that's what they're seeing
and that's what they're going to do.
And so at some point there is achoice Saying that, like every
system is built against you.
Every single one, we had thedoctors on and they pointed at
insurance and being like, oh myGod, we had the insurance people on.
(29:59):
They were like, Hey, you gotta, howcould you possibly spend $12,000 on
anything and not know what you're doing?
I'm like, okay fair point.
And then we have Zen who'soh, like it's not labeled,
it's actually inside the food.
And hers, her story was oneabout, whoa, what I really liked
was it was about community.
Hers was like, damnit, I'm just gonnaget moms and we're gonna go March.
(30:22):
And I'm like, damn, that.
What a great idea.
Jerremy Newsome (30:24):
Yeah.
Dave Conley (30:25):
Every system is set up against you.
And that's I guess thatstill frustrates me a bit.
But on the other hand, we juststarted this with saying, Hey, what
do you actually have control over?
Jerremy Newsome (30:34):
you said the word choice
Dave Conley (30:36):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (30:36):
said, we have the power to heal ourselves
with the choices we make.
So listen to that very carefully.
And that could be on like a t-shirt,and this is probably one of our main
slogans, but we can heal ourselves,meaning we do not need the agencies and
the companies and the aspects of thisthat are designed to make this difficult.
(31:01):
We do not need them as individuals.
We do not need them to heal.
We do not need them to be the best,most vibrant versions of ourselves.
And yes, a lot of cardsare stacked against us.
And ultimately knowing thatwe again, have the choices.
It's all choices.
It's all perspectives.
(31:22):
world is created by the words youuse and the beliefs that you hold.
Your beliefs are gonna create everything.
And if you believe that every singlething is going to be created to crush
you, to stop you from expanding, tokeep you poor, broken, fat, and ugly,
that's exactly what's gonna happen.
(31:43):
If you also believe that there's alot of things that are created or
built or made to give you a certainlevel of struggle because struggle
simply makes you stronger, thenthat's even more of a fun perspective.
Ultimately though, I thinkwhen you brought up, Hey
man, you're paying $10,000.
(32:05):
You don't even know what you're buying.
You haven't even read it.
You haven't even tried.
You haven't even cared.
I did think that was a gutpunch that took us for a storm.
'cause me and you were like, we'regonna make fun of the insurance agency.
Dave Conley (32:17):
There.
Jerremy Newsome (32:18):
about how awful it is, and we're coming for you insurance.
then both of these insuranceagents are like, yeah, homie.
But here's the problemis you don't even care.
You don't even know what you have.
And then I thought tomyself, you're right.
I don't, I haven'tstudied it for a moment.
Dave Conley (32:38):
That was the best and worst feeling out of this whole
thing because I totally rolled in,be like, ah, damn you insurance.
And they're like, have you ever read it?
And I'm like, oh no, Ican't even comment on it.
No.
Jerremy Newsome (32:51):
Yeah, that was fascinating.
And then to circle back, let'sjust keep having fun with Dave.
When we're talking about the term thatI think a lot of people are very aware
of, and again, man I do think thatthere's a big challenge here, but we do
truly probably see that the challengeas you race early from the adaptation
and adoption and education on health,but the sick care system as Amanda and
(33:14):
Sean were mentioning, the big changethere is all focused on profits,
Dave Conley (33:20):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (33:20):
The healthcare system profiting off of sickness because although
prevention is the alternative, if youdo not get sick and everyone in America
suddenly becomes a lot healthier moves alot more and eats a lot better, and gets
more sunlight and spends more time outsideand smokes less and drinks less alcohol.
(33:43):
probably visit substantially lessin the medical system and there
becomes a lot less of a strain on it.
And then most importantly, there'sgonna be massive changes there
because then the profits dwindle.
the best way to get someoneto change companies to changed
corporations have changed.
(34:03):
And you start attacking that bottomline, you start creating pain.
'cause pain's a great motivator.
Pain is a great mover.
So for Amanda to guide us through alot of the bottlenecks that happen
in emergency rooms, that would be areally fascinating topic or episode
just to even dive into that more.
A lot of the misdiagnoses that happen theone that really probably stood out to me
(34:24):
ultimately was I think she said, KPI careis like these doctors and these patients,
the relationship is a patient is a number.
A lot of times, and it's get in thisemergency room, let's get you suited.
And off you go.
not really a right?
(34:44):
It's a, all right, thisis a profit center.
The hospitals have this particular number.
We need to see this amount ofpatients and prescribe this and
do this and create this, and thiscan very check, check oriented.
And that, to me, I did not know.
I did not know it worked that way
A little scary.
Dave Conley (35:02):
I've learned two things since then, and this is why I want to,
when we swing back around this, I wantto talk to some more people in this.
One, is that.
If a doctor doesn't put one of thosecodes in, that was Rihanna was talking
about, then they don't get paid.
And so they slot a lot of people intocodes because they'll get paid not
(35:25):
because of what the diagnosis actually is.
Not to say that they're wrong or off.
They're like, just close enough.
But, like it's an art.
We're human beings.
Like it's being a doctor is,you're an art, you're in an
art as much as a science.
And a large number of medical issuesor misdiagnosis or being treated
(35:47):
for something wrong happens earlyon in a process where somebody is
slotted into something and it's neverchanged later on because the doctor
was managing to a number and was,wherever in the process it was stuck
on the number and it wasn't stuck onthe human and what was going on there.
The other thing is those KPIs oftenhave like a satisfaction score.
(36:11):
And so if the doctor doesn'tgive somebody what they want,
then they'll get a bad review.
And it doesn't necessarily meanthat, the doctor, it's not a Yelp
review for a doctor, it's, sometimesdoctors have to do tough things.
I love that people are coming inmore knowledgeable, like my doctor
said, he expects somebody to come inwith I heard this on a podcast, or
(36:34):
I Googled this, or whatever, right?
And he gets to have actually muchbetter conversations with his patients.
So there's, on top of that, Amandawas talking about you only get
15 minutes and you're in and out.
And so the one thing youcan do is give him a pill.
So again, every piece of thatis ah, like that's when you're
just wanna throw it all out.
(36:54):
And now you're back atlet me ask you this.
What did we learn?
If you do get sick, most people are right?
the day before I met you.
Jerremy Newsome (37:04):
no.
I'm gonna pause this.
You're gonna tell your story,but when he says the day.
does mean an actual 24 hour period.
Keep going.
Dave Conley (37:11):
I called him from the hospital and he said, okay.
I said, okay.
I don't know what's gonna happen,but I think I'm still gonna come.
I won't know until I'm outta surgery.
And you're like, what?
And I'm like it's my appendix, right?
And they do have to rush meto emergency surgery and we'll
know more once I'm up and out.
And yeah, I was up and out like a fewhours later, like I had to go overnight.
(37:34):
and then I got on the plane thatday because I was like I can.
I can either sit around and belike, feeling sorry for myself
or I can get on a plane and that,that actually taught me some grace.
'cause I had to askfor help for everybody.
I couldn't lift anything.
So I had to ask every singleperson, it's like, Hey, I got a bag.
Would you mind lifting it up on thesecurity and would you mind lifting
it and putting it in the bin overhead?
(37:56):
So what did we learn aboutwhat happens when you get sick?
Jerremy Newsome (38:00):
Or even needing massive medical attention.
Dave Conley (38:02):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (38:03):
And I think the answer is our system right now it's both good
and bad because it works 85% of the time
Dave Conley (38:14):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (38:14):
But here's the challenge.
That's a b plus.
And when you're talking about hundredsof millions of people, that 15% is
an astronomically horrible number.
You're dealing with millionsthat are negatively impacted.
And yes, that is a problem,but I do not feel that there
is an authority, especially agovernmental authority right now.
Also, that's.
(38:35):
Extremely well geared towardsmaking our country run extremely
efficiently through a care system.
A care system of actuallypouring into the patients.
And to your point, I'll ask you thisquestion 'cause we did talk about it a
lot in conjunction with the insurance.
(38:56):
How did your insurance help yougetting your appendix taken out?
Was it a massive financial strain?
And what did you end uppaying, if you remember?
Dave Conley (39:06):
I do, I know exactly what it's, and I kept on putting
it off because I didn't want to getinto the medical industrial complex.
And finally I actually called my doctorand he said, look, man, you might be.
Hey, you're going in for surgery now.
I learned subsequently that Ididn't necessarily need surgery
(39:26):
that actually for an appendix.
If you do a heavy antibioticfor five days, it tends to
have the exact same result.
But that's neither here nor there.
I ended up talking to a surgeon before Italked to my doctor, but what surprised me
the most was the bill I got, it was zero.
Because I went to a hospitalthat happened to be completely
(39:47):
affiliated with my insurance company.
I had actually checked, withmy insurance company to be
like, okay, where should I go?
And they said, this hospitalturned out to be great.
And that was the lesson that I heardboth from Rihanna and from Nick, is
even if you can't make sure somebodyis there and they're asking questions
like, how much does this cost?
(40:09):
Give me the bill.
And you're not guiding the care.
You're saying, okay, what'snecessary, what's not?
Let's put it in the realm of choices,rather than saying, I need an $80 Tylenol.
Jerremy Newsome (40:22):
Yep.
Two of my favorite quotes and youalways help me in my presentations and
speaking, but one of them is you caneither be a victim or you can be a victor.
Then the other one of course is you canbe a warrior or you can be a warrior.
Dave Conley (40:35):
Say that again?
your accent aid into the, it's warrior.
Warrior or worrier.
Wow.
I like that
Jerremy Newsome (40:42):
Thanks man.
Thank you.
accent does get in the way of it alittle bit, so I try, like warrior or
Dave Conley (40:49):
Warrior.
Jerremy Newsome (40:50):
Do you worry or do you go to war?
Here it is, the big one, the big shift.
The reason I'm mentioning thosetwo statements, it is our personal
responsibility, Americans.
That's what I'm telling you.
We have to take personal responsibility.
All these other aspects are here for usas supplements, meaning supplementally.
(41:14):
We can do this in addition to, butwe have to focus on our health,
our finances, and our life.
No one is coming to save us.
we do this through diet, through exercise.
We do this with sleep, with savvychoices, working with professionals,
but not leaning on them.
(41:35):
This is gonna unlock alot of the broken systems.
So if I, talk about Zen,who was on episode 11,
Dave Conley (41:42):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (41:43):
Choosing organic.
Over Gmail laden food.
Boom, that's a choice.
It's gonna be more expensive.
Yes, it will.
Which now is gonna make youfocus more on your finances.
And that's one of the reasons thatyou came up to me after 16 hours of
getting your appendix removed, isI was like, Hey bro, I wanna coach
with you, work with me, work withmy wife, and we'll change your life.
(42:04):
I'll help you with your money, I'llhelp you understand all the things.
And then we ended up creatingthis together and I was like,
oh, that's why you're in my life.
This is awesome.
Dave Conley (42:10):
Here we are.
Jerremy Newsome (42:11):
Day one, you're like, you wanna run for president?
I'm gonna help you and here's
Dave Conley (42:15):
I am
Jerremy Newsome (42:16):
it.
Dave Conley (42:16):
number one in
Jerremy Newsome (42:17):
and you went all the way in.
So I'll take a quick secondand say, thank you man.
Thanks for being all the way in.
Thanks for loving on me and for pouringin 300 hours in the last few months,
Dave Conley (42:28):
it is maybe this last week.
Jerremy Newsome (42:30):
making this mission happen.
It's very appreciative
Dave Conley (42:33):
Wouldn't do it if I didn't believe in it.
And you, and what we're doing becausethis is about solving America's problems.
And I don't know if there's anything moreimportant than bringing, a better world,
Jerremy Newsome (42:45):
This is a very rare podcast.
You know this 'cause youconsume podcasts all the time.
But usually most politicalpodcasts are very one-sided.
They're not reallyspecifically bipartisan.
You and I have openly mentionedthat we don't agree on all policies,
Dave Conley (42:58):
Oh, no.
Jerremy Newsome (42:59):
nor should we.
And it's a fun discussion when we getto have our chats and we get to go see
things from different lenses and alsobring in guests that are well more
versed in certain things than we are.
Dave Conley (43:14):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (43:15):
again, man, when we were chatting with Zen,
when she was like, guys, eatingwell isn't just health, right?
It's defiance against a toxic food supply.
These personal choices that you'remaking, they're gonna shape your
outcomes that you have in life.
to me, as consumers, if we start makingthis choice that's gonna impact the
profits of these companies and that'sgonna naturally create a change to occur.
(43:39):
Right?
And then again, having the discussionsabout the health, what kept coming up
over and over and over again is we arein control more than we think we are.
Knowing and spending time to read thefine print on your medical policy, read
(44:00):
the fine print on the back of your foodlabel, that was like 25 minutes of what
Zen was referring to and talking about.
Sitting down
Dave Conley (44:11):
it was.
Jerremy Newsome (44:12):
conversations with these ER doctors, maybe even ahead of time.
Ha.
Have you ever heard of prehab?
Instead of going to rehab, you doeverything preliminary before it
actually begins, before it startsThese are, again, personal choices
that we can all make ahead of time.
We can have conversations with peoplenow, before we get sick determine,
(44:34):
the patterns of decisions and choicesthat we can make that allow us to not
necessarily always interact with asystem that we might feel is broken.
We don't even have to be a part of it.
We can only lean on it when wehave to Has it really ever led
us or caused us to go astray?
I've had tonsil surgery, I'vehad ear, nose and throat surgery.
(44:55):
I had a deviated septum.
I've had my wisdom teeth taken outand I had malaria once when I was 18.
Dave Conley (45:01):
Yeah.
Wow.
Jerremy Newsome (45:02):
sucked.
Dave Conley (45:02):
Oof.
Jerremy Newsome (45:03):
Don't get malaria and all in those situations, right?
Dave Conley (45:06):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (45:06):
with little or no insurance and everything
ended up becoming fine.
This is how I know about the plans,and this is how I know about when
we were asking the conversationswith Nick and Rhiannon's Hey, can
you have conversations with people?
Can you talk to these people?
Like how do you, what questions you ask.
I know about that 'cause I wentthrough it and I'm fully aware of this.
Listen, this is an educationalcomponent and there's that word again.
(45:27):
it all is everything that wedo, everything that we know.
It's always a choice.
It's always an opportunity.
It's an opportunity to grow, educate,shift, learn, and understand.
Dave Conley (45:35):
I think if there's one thing that we can.
Leave our listeners, and it's,I think it was the wisdom of
Zen that really sat with me.
And I've been thinking about it.
And actually, I was talking to adoctor friend of mine yesterday,
this is a scientist, right?
Like years and years of training.
And she's completely changed her practiceand her practice is much more holistic.
(45:56):
And if I described it to you, I thinkfor the vast majority of people it
would sound like voodoo and woo, right?
what I heard from Zen because thereis going to be a segment of people who
are like stuck in what institutionsand what mainstream and what, what
you hear and what is accepted science.
(46:17):
And they'll be like that's what it is.
And anything that questions that.
Cathedral is wrong andthose people are bad.
And like we bump and you bump intoit with getting people like RFKJ,
being told anti-vaxxer and having todescribe to people while he's not right.
Like he's just pro safety and let'sset that aside, what I heard from
(46:43):
Zen because, she can dip into thoseareas too with all sorts of things
I. That people are like, no, thesethings are safe and they're fine.
And I don't know if we're going toreach those people, but she left
us with one very powerful thingthat I think everybody can do.
And she's look, just Stay curious.
And if you try organic food for30 days and you feel better, then
(47:04):
that's all you really need to know.
If you just try something for 30 days,anything, more water, more movement, some
sunlight, some meditation, some whateverit is, eating GMO for one meal, right?
Or not, meaning not eating GMO, eatingorganic for one meal, stay if you can't
(47:24):
pronounce it, don't put it in your mouth,so it's there is a simplicity to this
and it'll keep you outta the hospitals.
It'll keep you out ofthe doctor's offices.
It will keep you healthier than that.
Jerremy Newsome (47:36):
Yeah, so if I had to say, Dave, like at the heart of what you
believe we found in the very first timethat we address together as a podcast and
as a team, making America healthy again?
How do we solve the problem thatexists right now as what we now know?
Dave Conley (48:03):
I know how difficult it is to do it by yourself.
I was 330 pounds overweight.
I had a beautiful, lovely wifeand yet, like I was choosing
differently for most of my life.
And I think, all of our guests inone way or another, kept on coming
back to community, and that's veryempowering, that allows people to
(48:26):
ask for and demand different things.
How about learning how to garden andgetting things like farmer's markets
and demanding that the stores nearyou have different choices and saying
that there's going to be demand forthese things because one person by
themselves can make a difference.
But as soon as you get your neighborinvolved, then you have two voices
(48:48):
and those two voices become fourand those four become eight, and
then you have a movement, andthat's when change really happens.
So I think there's a personalresponsibility aspect of this, and
we also learned that like 42% ofbirths, that's 1.5 million kids a
year get born into Medicaid, right?
(49:08):
That means, Medicaid is the insurance youhave when you can't afford anything else.
And so it's going to be communitystanding up and saying, Hey,
this needs to be different.
Jerremy Newsome (49:19):
Yep,
Dave Conley (49:19):
What about you?
Jerremy Newsome (49:20):
yep.
That's a community take.
It's the communities.
And I still man, forcefully, vehementlyagree and believe that a lot of this
change is Gonna start from the topof being a voice for the voiceless.
Being someone that knows the challenges,knows the struggle, didn't grow up.
(49:41):
As a billionaire, hashtagour current president didn't
grow up in the entire system.
Hashtag most of every singlepresident has come before us.
Not having a lens of thispolitical, systematic approach
where I take money bribes.
Dave Conley (50:03):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (50:05):
instead of creating a system that has been infiltrated by again,
to the point any big company that hastons of profits is wanting more money.
You have someone like myself andlike many other candidates have
bought into the American dream.
We bought into it, wefinanced it, we grew it.
(50:29):
And that dream allowed other people to bepositively impacted other people to learn.
change, grow, become inspired,become motivated, then go
out and make that change.
That's the process, that's the cycle.
And I truly believe if we have someone whois focused on that, on the revitalization
(50:51):
of America's mental health, pouringinto the mental awareness, the positive
vibrational frequency, the shift fromnegative to positive, that in of itself is
gonna be a humongous impact on our health.
(51:12):
My man, I fully believe that.
'cause if you are drinking poison andyou're thinking negative thoughts for
our listeners, I'm sure you know this,but if you said to me, The things
that you say to yourself every day?
Would we be friends?
Would we even haveconversations with each other?
Would we ever talk?
The answer's?
Probably not, becausewe beat ourselves up.
(51:33):
We say so many negative things toourselves, and we very rarely have
someone else who's cheering us on.
That's gonna be the person I'm gonna be.
I'm gonna be that cheerleader.
I'm gonna be the focus.
I'm gonna help understand andlearn together as we continue to
grow and really truly track down.
What are some of the biggest challenges,the biggest hurdles, the biggest problems,
(51:56):
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In this wrap-up episode of the health series, Jerremy and Dave admit
they walked in blaming Big Pharma,Big Food, and insurance… and walked
out realizing the system mostly givesAmerica exactly what it keeps demanding:
CHEAP calories and quick fixes.
They dig into the raw numbers on whatreal food actually costs, why nobody
(00:21):
ever taught us to cook, and how onemom’s switch to whole foods saved her
family six figures in medical bills.
[leaning in] Welcome toSolving America’s Problems.
Jerremy Newsome (00:31):
Ladies and gentlemen, we are back.
I have learned that people love thisportion of solving America's problems.
This portion, specificallybeing, what did we learn?
'cause Dave, that's what we're doing,man, over the next few years, we are
out there to really learn, understand,tweak, adjust, implement, find out what's
(00:54):
working, and find out what's not working.
It's a long list.
Have conversations with professionals,really speak to individuals and
just really uncover some truth.
And for you and I learn, and for ourlisteners learn, it's more about.
Knowing how to uncover andknowing how to dig deep.
(01:15):
And I think we did a great job of that.
This is really the makingAmerica healthy again.
What did we learn?
And it's gonna be an awesome summaryand I'm really pumped for it, Dave.
Dave Conley (01:24):
Yeah, four great episodes across, how many?
Almost 10 episodes, right?
Maybe a little bit more.
10 episodes just great people.
We had Dr. Holden, Dr. Dill.
We had Nick and his beautiful wife,Rihanna on a separate episode.
And then Zen.
Oh my goodness.
What I know I started one way in thisand I ended up in a different place.
(01:47):
And I think that's thedefinition of learning, isn't it?
Jerremy Newsome (01:49):
Yeah, I think so.
Going with a belief for mindset,getting some things shifted,
getting some tweaks, adjustments.
new understandings.
One of the big ones, I think, andagain, I'm very excited to go back
through so many of our episodes aswe continue to adapt and to grow.
But one of the ones that does standout to me in a big way was the
(02:13):
distinctions in the difference probablybetween the holistic healing, which
I would define probably as food andgoing that route versus what a lot of
individuals, especially front runnerslike Mary Williamson for presidency,
they're stating it's big pharma.
It's only big pharma.
(02:34):
They're doing it.
Take 'em down.
They're making us sick.
Dave Conley (02:36):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (02:37):
then we blended a lot of the healthcare and the
insurance aspect as well together.
But for me, building a bridge betweenboth of those and realizing for you and
I to truly solve a lot of these problems.
And do it from a campaignadvocacy approach as well.
Doing this from a, what I'm going to bedoing as president, it seems extremely
(03:01):
clear to me that without question,helping understand change, shift and adapt
different food ideologies, different foodbeliefs, and different adaptations of
food, like how we can eat, where we'reeating, how we're eating, how much we're
eating, when we're eating, these thingscan be very quickly implemented for
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the most part, without even trying toattack the quote unquote huge behemoth
of a problem that a lot of peoplefeel would never, ever truly change.
The big pharma, the big sick caresystem as it was called, and rather than
attacking that saying, okay, listen.
How about we educate and informand update, and we all tweak and
(03:47):
adjust our habits, our eatingpractices, what we know to be true,
and start focusing on a lot of that.
That was really a big summation forme from bringing all these together,
making me feel like there's actuallya better solution there than feeling
hopeless and feeling worried andfeeling like we never have a shot.
Dave Conley (04:06):
It a hundred percent.
I think you're right on with that.
I came in this thinking big badinsurance or big pharma or big food,
like they're the ones keeping us sick.
They're the ones keeping us down.
And
what I know now is that we aregetting exactly what we want.
We want cheap food.
So it's going to be GMO, it's goingto be full of pesticides because
(04:31):
that's how you get cheap food.
Want.
Healthcare that, basically doesn'twork in a lot of ways, and it
has a lot of perverse incentivesbecause we want it that way.
we need it to be in a way that isincomprehensible and you don't know
what to do and you don't know becauseyou're not spending any time on it.
What I know for sure is that our food andour insurance and our healthcare, they're
(04:56):
all tied together, and if we solve forone, the other ones are gonna follow.
Jerremy Newsome (05:02):
Yep.
Precisely.
And I think that was reallyaddressed in all the conversations.
And yes, of course there's veryminute and very individual policies
and practices that we can change andshould change and would like to change.
It will make things better, easier,faster, quicker, more efficient.
But get down to the brass tacks,you've mentioned it a couple times
(05:23):
and we've talked about throughoutthe episode, throughout the podcast.
The price of things, you'regonna get what you pay for.
And a lot of Americans both wantand need really inexpensive.
So they might therefore just bereceiving just that if you do not pay
a lot of money for food, it's probablynot gonna be extremely good for you.
And knowing that not only is that gonnabe what's more available, more abundant
(05:47):
is the cheaper, more processed, more GMOfood because the companies wanna make
money and we're in a capitalist societyand we're not gonna take it away from
them having the opportunity to make money.
ultimately, we as consumers are decidingwhat we eat and what we don't eat.
And we're also gonna decide howmuch money they make and don't make.
If we spend a lot less with them asconsumers and start focusing more on
(06:12):
the organic and the individual, andthe farmers and the local, we can help
increase the awareness and decrease thecost through more supply and more demand.
Dave Conley (06:22):
So let, I wanna really explore that cost side with you and
so that I understand it, which is
when I hear organic, I hear expensive.
And what I'm also hearing is you'reeither paying for it now or later.
And then I did the math on my breakfast.
I have this most mornings.
I have some rolled oats.
(06:43):
I have it with some almond milk and Ithrow in some chia seeds and a little
bit of honey and I let it go overnight.
These overnight oats, andI'm obsessed with them.
Jerremy Newsome (06:54):
So good.
Dave Conley (06:56):
I didn't know anything actually.
I was this year old.
when I found out about these things,like the whole world of overnight
oats completely miss my radar.
But now I'm making up for 50years of not knowing about it.
'cause I'm having itjust about every day now.
it's incredibly filling.
And I did all the math on it and everysingle one of my breakfasts, and I
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throw some blueberries on top of itcosts me exactly $4 and 30 cents.
Now most of that is that organicalmond milk that I use, and it
just occurred to me if you just usewhole milk on it, you could probably
get this down to $2 and 50 cents.
there's a certain aspect of thisof wondering what you're paying
for and where you're paying for it.
And I think it was Zen who said that,she ended up saving like a hundred
(07:42):
thousand dollars in medical bills becauseher son started eating whole food.
Jerremy Newsome (07:47):
Which is wild to think about.
The truth is to me, if we spend more.
On food.
As a nation, this is gonna be acrazy concept, but if you spend
more on food and the food is higherquality, you actually eat less.
And if you eat less,you will be healthier.
(08:07):
Now, this doesn't meanlike you don't eat at all.
This just simply means eating less.
Instead of four to five meals aday, snacking, eating three to 4,000
calories, which I looked it up in arandom study on Twitter the other day.
I think the average Americaneats 3,400 calories a day.
Dave Conley (08:26):
Wow.
Jerremy Newsome (08:26):
So eats and drinks like consumes three, 400 calories a day.
And so that's why if you alwayslook at the back of a box, whatever,
they always kinda give theiringredients and they're like, this
is based on a 3000 calorie, diet.
3000 calories a lot.
If I'm doing legitimate, actual, fullon training for a competition, I'm
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eating 35 to 4,000 calories a day.
Dave Conley (08:53):
And, yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (08:55):
and so that means like I'm gonna be doing
some type of very long distance.
Now, if I'm trying for speed,strength, size and getting really
beefy and meaty, then I might needto do 4,500 or 5,000 calories.
It's like that day, right?
That's a lot.
But for me, most individualsare eating that and they're
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not running 45 miles that week.
That's a huge difference because itis science in science out math in
math, out calories in, calories out.
If you eat less than youburn, you lose weight.
End of story.
Thanks for playing.
And you have a personalstory of this too Dave?
Tell the world.
Dave Conley (09:36):
Wow.
I think I just turned 40 years old andI was in a job that I hated as a senior
executive, I smoked a pack of cigarettesa day, and I weighed 330 pounds.
And it's not like Ididn't have the education.
It's not like I didn'tknow what I was doing.
(09:56):
It had been like a lifelong thing.
I had always been I had always beenheavy and, a lot of it was psychological.
And at some point in my life, I justgave up saying I'm just going to always
be this way and this is who I am.
At that same time my wife of 13 yearsunexpectedly got ill, and a few days
(10:17):
later she passed away out of the blue.
She was fine one dayand then she was gone.
And I don't wish thatkind of pain on anybody.
And I would never say that wasmy moment that, that was the
big change because it wasn't.
But what I realized then at thatmoment, and what started this
(10:41):
journey of losing 150 pounds, likean entire human, was learning to love
myself as much as Carol loved me.
and it was small choices.
I think it was Sean that saidDr. Dill, Dr. Sean Dill, he said,
sunlight and exercise and water.
These are the basic thingsof life and they're free.
(11:04):
And it was just that it was alittle bit of water every day and
making sure that's what I was doing.
And it was a little bit of movement,making sure I was moving and the
eating better was coming along.
And it was the small changesthat made a big difference.
And over the course of fouryears, I lost 150 pounds.
And that was with the benefit ofknowing all of these things, right?
(11:28):
I think a lot of people are trapped inthese, they're on their treadmills, right?
A hundred percent of their timeis already taken up and they
have their kids to worry about.
They have their job to worryabout, or they don't have a job
and they're worried about that.
Or, like they have a million differentthings and they just need a little bit
of time to themselves to like decompress.
And so it's not about not knowing itis making simple, small changes every
(11:52):
day, taking personal responsibilityin it, that changes the whole system.
Jerremy Newsome (11:58):
Small steps.
You have to, in order to do a marathon,you have to take a lot of steps and
there is no other formula for it.
There's a lot of steps to betaken and they can be big steps,
they could be small steps.
You gotta take a lot of steps, butif you keep doing enough steps,
there is a finish line at the end.
And for you, man, I justwanna say congrats on that.
(12:18):
But you brought up a great point that wedid talk about in this series and right
in this kind of like recap as we talkedabout, like Sean brought up the six
best doctors being sleep, water, breath,sunshine, good food, meditation, right?
(12:39):
or meditation slash nature.
Doing things that probably ultimatelydo not cost that much money.
if any money, but ultimately canrevitalize your life and change so much
and create such a big impact for you.
What I heard also is the bigshift is just drinking more water.
lot of times as Americans, wefeel tired 'cause man, dude,
(12:59):
freaking life is hard, right?
You have so much weight andpressure and the cost of living
is skyrocketing everywhere inthe United States of America.
And we all feel that pressure.
Every one of us does.
However, when we gotta keepgoing and we get energetically
drained and we get tired.
And so what do we do?
We slam our face with a bunch ofenergy drinks and caffeine and
(13:23):
coffee over and over and over.
And while that can work, absolutely.
And there's even better medicalgrade available, caffeine and other
supplements that work even moreefficiently than a Monster energy
drink or a Celsius energy drink.
There are healthieralternatives out there.
If you start drinking a bunchof water, you know what happens?
(13:45):
You don't get as tired.
It's wild.
If you drink a bunch of water and you eata bunch of apples, you don't get tired.
You have more energy.
And yeah, you're peeing a lot.
You are, that's gonna happen.
But you gotta piece so much you're alwaysmoving and your energy's gonna be up,
(14:05):
and so you, you just have more energy.
And so the tweaks, the simplicity.
The thing that I'm so excited aboutultimately, and I hope all of our
listeners hear this, my really incrediblebig vision and dream is to simply be
a president that pours in light, love,happiness, and positivity into the world.
Imagine if there was a voice for thepeople, of the people that was the
(14:27):
people, and was able to come on everysingle day and instead of battling China.
Or discussing immigrants or talkingabout all the negative in the world.
If we just had someone who ischampioning the vision of the
people saying, Hey everyone,today's gonna be an incredible day.
I'm excited for you.
I'm excited about your work.
(14:47):
I'm excited about your job.
I'm excited about your family.
I hope you have the most incredible day.
Smile and go.
Make an incredible impact.
Imagine if we had someone every daythat just poured into the people of this
country, using to your point, positivity.
And secondly, easy small steps of change.
The change does not have to be radical.
(15:08):
You move more and drink more water.
Boom, life started changing.
You gave up cigarettes.
Bang, life started changing.
Now you give up cigarettes, youbreathe better, you move better, you
smell better, like your nose smellsbetter and you physically as a person
smell better, but you also fun.
Fact, spend less money.
(15:28):
You do, you spend less money 'causeyou no longer are smoking cigarettes
and cigarettes are There's like alegitimate cost to them and your cost
of living goes up across the boardbecause of rental cars and hotels.
If you ever traveling and you smoke,now it's a whole process because
you have to pay different deposits,healthcare increases if you use tobacco.
(15:49):
There's so many randomcosts to those lifestyles.
But the lifestyle that you mentioned,Dave is the majority of people, right?
There's more than of this country that'sgonna face that exact challenge of the
obesity of, you mentioned the hamsterwheel, the treadmill of life, where
there's just no singular individualthat's really pouring in grace and
(16:12):
care and attention and wisdom andwords of affirmation and positivity,
and I can't wait to be that person.
Dave Conley (16:18):
one thing that I don't know if is talked about is the
amount of prejudice that peopleget when they're really heavy.
Like you sense it all the time.
the world is not built for you.
The chairs aren't built.
The planes aren't built thecars, like nothing works.
And I had risen to a very high level inmy field and I had to be exceptionally
(16:38):
good at it because fortunately I wasmostly in, merit It was that much harder
as somebody who was an overweight smoker.
when somebody is overweight and they'rea smoker, they're like, oh if they're not
taking care of themselves, how could theypossibly be taking care of my company?
there is so much broken when you'reso overweight and knowing that it is
actually just a slow suicide is one ofthose things that needs to be brought up.
(17:02):
you are overweight and it is onlyyou putting the food in your mouth.
You are the one that's in control.
oh, also would we say thatthis week's solving America's
problems brought to you by water.
Jerremy Newsome (17:16):
brought to you by Dave used to be fat and he drink more water and
move more, and now he's in great shape.
Dave Conley (17:23):
Hey, let me ask you a question though.
Jerremy Newsome (17:24):
Yeah.
Dave Conley (17:25):
Is it, the world here is education.
Education and there is a lot ofresponsibility that was built into this.
Were you ever taught to cook?
Were you taught to eat well?
was there ever a high schoolclass of, what is it called?
Home Act, was there like, if we'renot teaching people how to eat or what
to eat, or if we give them like foodpyramids and say, Hey, have all the corn.
Jerremy Newsome (17:49):
to talk about that good old food pyramid, like that was, that's
still in my mind I'll tell you the momentthat my food practices started shifting
dramatically, but more importantly thanthat, to answer your question, I did have
one class and I believe it was called.
LMS life management skills.
Dave Conley (18:08):
okay.
Jerremy Newsome (18:09):
Best part, it was one semester, so this was in high school.
And so when I say like a semester'sat that time it was an elective.
so you get to choose an elective twicea year and it's six months long or
whatever it was, four or five months long.
And you had two electives ayear that you shifted out of.
So I went to LMS first time I ever sawanyone else have a condom the teacher
(18:29):
told us how to put a condom on a banana.
And then there was other things I learned.
We learned about goal settingsand writing down goals, and
Learn about cooking.
But to your point, it wasvery basic, extremely rigid.
There wasn't a lot in that particularclass, they still were putting
together this overall agenda ofhere's what you need to do in life.
(18:51):
Go get a job, go get to college.
Here's how you achieve in collegeand here's how you get into college.
That was probably 85% of the program
Dave Conley (19:00):
Wow.
Jerremy Newsome (19:01):
was just really understanding and adapting.
And again, granted I'm,I'm ancient as well.
Me and you were both ancient, right?
You are higher in thesedimentary, you're whatever.
We're both ancient.
So we're talking 20 years ago that I'm inhigh school and I'm sure it's different.
Hashtag it's not, I have someonein high school now, my kid, and
it's the same exact thing, right?
Gabriel's going through the exact samestuff it's all about just how to get
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into college and how to prepare forcollege and how to beat the college
system, how to get the SATs and sothey can get a good job and whatever.
in an LMS class, I did apersonality assessment.
And so you do the personalityassessment and then the teacher,
this was like a three week process.
You do this big test and then atthe end you get the results back.
And then in the test it teachesyou what your best job and
Dave Conley (19:45):
Alexa, stop thermostat.
Jerremy Newsome (19:46):
then they give you a path of,
Dave Conley (19:48):
Alexa, turn off thermostat.
Jerremy Newsome (19:50):
Sorry, go ahead.
So you go through this life assessment,like who you are, personality assessment.
These jobs are gonna be basedon, your personality and here's
what you should do as a job.
Here's what you should do as a career.
Here's the best schoolpath in order to get there.
Dave Conley (20:08):
oof.
Jerremy Newsome (20:08):
I'm gonna give you two guesses.
What do you think my, like pers permy personality, what job should I be
Off the cuff?
So I'm just excited to see what you say.
Dave Conley (20:18):
oh.
I, preacher,
Jerremy Newsome (20:20):
Ooh,
Dave Conley (20:22):
I would say I don't know.
If you were taking that in thatera, I would say like I would've
slotted you in sales in business,in that world, you're very social
and you like talking with people.
it's like you would kill it in sales.
Jerremy Newsome (20:36):
Yep.
That was exactly it.
Dave Conley (20:37):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (20:38):
literally did my high school personality assessment for me.
So the very number one careerchoice was life insurance salesman.
Dave Conley (20:45):
Wow.
Jerremy Newsome (20:46):
and number two was salesman.
Dave Conley (20:48):
and sales.
Jerremy Newsome (20:49):
I had never really knew what life insurance was until I started
looking it up and I found that NationwideInsurance wasn't very far from my house.
And so I put that on my radar and Idid end up eventually working for them,
which is all fascinating and interesting.
So circling back to all of this, to yourpoint, no, I wasn't taught cooking, right?
Yes.
There are some high schoolsthat have home ec, which is
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referred to like home economics,
Dave Conley (21:13):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (21:13):
very dryly and basically we'll teach kids like the
things in life that you need to do,how money works, how income works, how
your family's balance sheet will look,revenue expenses, credit cards, food,
how to sew, how to do certain things.
Yes, all those are very accurate.
(21:34):
And there are high schoolsthat will teach that.
But very rarely.
And again, you ready for this tape?
It's an elective, which means kidsget to choose, oh, Do I do home ec?
Do I do LMS?
Do I do pe, do I do art?
Do I do Spanish?
They get to pick.
And that should be, again,the maj, you should pick.
(21:55):
Do you wanna do reading or math doLMS for sure do home ec for sure.
There are some people who aremore adapted and just, they like
science more than, they like math.
They like history morethan they like science.
They enjoy social studiesmore than they like theater.
There's people that are like in highschool and middle school that are gonna
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be more adapted to doing certain thingsand they know that at an early age.
But to your point, I didn't reallyunderstand food until 20 18, 20 19.
And probably 2020, those threeyears is when I really got it.
And the reason is because I put down$5,500 in 2018 to do an event called
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the 2 9 0 2 9 Everything event.
And that's where you climb a mountain.
This was the snow base in UtahMountain, and you climb it
13 times from bottom to top.
take the gondola down, andoverall that's 32 ish miles and
29,000, 29 feet of elevation gain.
AKA you have 36 hoursto climb Everest, right?
(23:04):
The equivalent.
and in order to train for it, I hadto look up nutrition and I was asking
myself like, what do athletes do?
And this is what I learned about.
order to perform better, you have to eatbetter and you actually have to eat more.
And you have to come up withthis cycle and this process.
And if you're going to really work out andget strong and go, here's how fats work.
(23:27):
Here's how glucose works,here's how fat storage works.
Here's how sugar works.
A lot of people think if youeat sugar, you get energy.
That's not entirely true.
In fact, that's very rarely the case.
You have to train yourbody use sugar as energy.
That has to be a trained system, whichmeans your body has to start learning the
difference between burning fat and burningsugar or burning different types of
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sugar, glucose, fructose, to name a few.
So ultimately it's really interesting.
That's when I started learning, 'cause Ihad to put up a bunch of money to enter
into an event that was an endurance event.
It was extremely hard.
I had to learn all about this stuff.
All that to say, to finallyanswer your question.
No, dude I didn't learn any of thisand my mom didn't teach me and she
really tried, although she probablydidn't think I was that interested.
(24:11):
And truthfully, I probably wasn't.
I'm sure she said, Hey, Jerremy, would youlike to help me learn how to cook this?
And I probably said no.
And I just blocked that out in my mind.
I'm sure that happened.
But as parents, instead ofasking force your 15-year-old
Dave Conley (24:24):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (24:25):
My 15-year-old son wants to play video games every
single day, every hour of the day.
That's what he wants to do.
And that's cool.
can play some games.
there are gonna be requirementsthat I'm gonna give them.
One of the greatest gifts anyparents can give their children
is adversity they can handle.
So you have to give them adversity.
You have to give them a challenge.
(24:45):
Just yesterday we went to thezoo and I rented these bikes,
which was a great workout.
I was really happy to see alot of other people do these
bikes, but it was like a bike.
That was made for four people.
So you sit on this big bike and everysingle person can pedal and there's
Of seats and people can ride it.
And so it was me, Gabe my wife and thetwo boys, Jason and me, and we were on
this bike and it was me and Gabe doingthe primarily pedaling and everyone
(25:07):
was just hanging out, which is cool.
But I gave him the steering positionbecause you had to steer this bike
and this bike didn't steer theway you would think it should.
It was very loosey goosey.
So it was fun for himto kinda learn steering.
'cause again, he's 15, he'sgonna start driving soon.
And saying all that to say I forcefullyput him in that position where he didn't
(25:27):
wanna drive it and he wasn't comfortable.
He was scared about it.
But we went around this whole park,probably five or six miles, dodging kids,
dodging soccer balls, dodging frisbees.
And him learning how to drive ina relatively adverse environment.
A little fear, a littletrepidation, a little hesitation.
But you give that adversity 'causeI'm right there, able to pull
the brake at any time to protecther, to help him or whatever.
(25:50):
And he had a lot of good learning lessons
I know you all do this, butdads, moms, your kids need
to see you fail at something.
They need to see you.
Put yourself into a thing where youdon't know if you are going to win.
Most of our listeners are incrediblyintelligent, smart, talented people.
And if you have children, askyourself, what is one of the
(26:12):
best gifts you can give them?
And I'm telling you, it is adversity thatthey can handle and they need to see you.
In adversity.
They need to see how you interact withpotential failure or losing or attempting
or studying or not knowing something.
They wanna see how youstudy and how you learn.
(26:33):
Because when you can impartthose gifts into our kids the
answer is always education.
We're gonna come back to that asthe basic boiler point answer for
pretty much almost any problem thatwe encounter is it will be education.
I was terrified of chiropractic fora long time until I, I jumped off,
(26:55):
I was doing like a ropes course andjumped off the ropes course and ended
up hitting my neck or something onsomething and gave myself whiplash.
And so I went to a chiropractor.
I didn't know what else to do'cause the pain was excruciating
and within a week whiplash was gone.
I was totally fine.
Everything was great.
And so when we had Dr. Sean Dalecome on the podcast and when we
were interviewing him and talkingto him and getting people's take
(27:16):
on chiropractic, it's like that.
Of itself, just the embracing thisof, Hey, you don't have to go to a
specialized doctor if you can't smell.
There are like me, Ican't physically smell.
I'm currently starting to go throughdifferent routes just to see if
I can go in and have invasivesurgery, have your nose and sinuses
(27:39):
peeled apart and ripped apart.
It's go in and have acupuncture, goin and have chiropractic adjustments.
Go in and start figuring out other methodsthat are not necessarily more healthy.
However, they're simplypossibly more approachable.
They're more accessible.
They're easier and faster, andmost likely a lot less expensive.
(28:03):
Back to the healthcare piece.
And so really bringing this whole thingfull circle to just go into what I'm
really passionate about is the morepeople become aware and the more you have.
These people like Zen who are going outand getting a platform where they're like,
listen, I don't know the answers either.
I am here to study, I'm here to learn.
(28:25):
There are tons and tons ofindividuals, millions of Americans
who do not have these answers.
Let's go find 'em together.
Let's learn together.
Let's adapt, grow, change, and evolve.
And as you evolve, you're gonna startunderstanding how to learn how to
study, because you're gonna realizefor sure and very quickly that most
of the things that you do know aren'tactually accurate scientifically.
(28:47):
And you've been taught them 35 yearsago, and they're still holding as
strong as they ever were because youjust never challenged those beliefs.
Dave Conley (28:55):
I couldn't agree more.
we spend half of our lives sleepingand eating and dealing with
bureaucracies and in relationships.
And none of it is taught.
You have to get, half-assed information,maybe online, but you don't know,
And so you end up talking to your friends.
Maybe you get a little bit fromyour parents, but they didn't
get the right information.
(29:15):
So all of that is just up to you.
And the simplicity of just coming backto movement and water and meditation
and all these things are free, right?
Sunlight.
And then, to your point.
Being the example for your kids.
And it's like when they see you movingand like they, if you're sitting in
front of the TV and you're just, that'swhat you're doing and you're smoking
(29:39):
the Marble Reds and you're eating thechips, then that's what they're seeing
and that's what they're going to do.
And so at some point there is achoice Saying that, like every
system is built against you.
Every single one, we had thedoctors on and they pointed at
insurance and being like, oh myGod, we had the insurance people on.
(29:59):
They were like, Hey, you gotta, howcould you possibly spend $12,000 on
anything and not know what you're doing?
I'm like, okay fair point.
And then we have Zen who'soh, like it's not labeled,
it's actually inside the food.
And hers, her story was oneabout, whoa, what I really liked
was it was about community.
Hers was like, damnit, I'm just gonnaget moms and we're gonna go March.
(30:22):
And I'm like, damn, that.
What a great idea.
Jerremy Newsome (30:24):
Yeah.
Dave Conley (30:25):
Every system is set up against you.
And that's I guess thatstill frustrates me a bit.
But on the other hand, we juststarted this with saying, Hey, what
do you actually have control over?
Jerremy Newsome (30:34):
you said the word choice
Dave Conley (30:36):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (30:36):
said, we have the power to heal ourselves
with the choices we make.
So listen to that very carefully.
And that could be on like a t-shirt,and this is probably one of our main
slogans, but we can heal ourselves,meaning we do not need the agencies and
the companies and the aspects of thisthat are designed to make this difficult.
(31:01):
We do not need them as individuals.
We do not need them to heal.
We do not need them to be the best,most vibrant versions of ourselves.
And yes, a lot of cardsare stacked against us.
And ultimately knowing thatwe again, have the choices.
It's all choices.
It's all perspectives.
(31:22):
world is created by the words youuse and the beliefs that you hold.
Your beliefs are gonna create everything.
And if you believe that every singlething is going to be created to crush
you, to stop you from expanding, tokeep you poor, broken, fat, and ugly,
that's exactly what's gonna happen.
(31:43):
If you also believe that there's alot of things that are created or
built or made to give you a certainlevel of struggle because struggle
simply makes you stronger, thenthat's even more of a fun perspective.
Ultimately though, I thinkwhen you brought up, Hey
man, you're paying $10,000.
(32:05):
You don't even know what you're buying.
You haven't even read it.
You haven't even tried.
You haven't even cared.
I did think that was a gutpunch that took us for a storm.
'cause me and you were like, we'regonna make fun of the insurance agency.
Dave Conley (32:17):
There.
Jerremy Newsome (32:18):
about how awful it is, and we're coming for you insurance.
then both of these insuranceagents are like, yeah, homie.
But here's the problemis you don't even care.
You don't even know what you have.
And then I thought tomyself, you're right.
I don't, I haven'tstudied it for a moment.
Dave Conley (32:38):
That was the best and worst feeling out of this whole
thing because I totally rolled in,be like, ah, damn you insurance.
And they're like, have you ever read it?
And I'm like, oh no, Ican't even comment on it.
No.
Jerremy Newsome (32:51):
Yeah, that was fascinating.
And then to circle back, let'sjust keep having fun with Dave.
When we're talking about the term thatI think a lot of people are very aware
of, and again, man I do think thatthere's a big challenge here, but we do
truly probably see that the challengeas you race early from the adaptation
and adoption and education on health,but the sick care system as Amanda and
(33:14):
Sean were mentioning, the big changethere is all focused on profits,
Dave Conley (33:20):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (33:20):
The healthcare system profiting off of sickness because although
prevention is the alternative, if youdo not get sick and everyone in America
suddenly becomes a lot healthier moves alot more and eats a lot better, and gets
more sunlight and spends more time outsideand smokes less and drinks less alcohol.
(33:43):
probably visit substantially lessin the medical system and there
becomes a lot less of a strain on it.
And then most importantly, there'sgonna be massive changes there
because then the profits dwindle.
the best way to get someoneto change companies to changed
corporations have changed.
(34:03):
And you start attacking that bottomline, you start creating pain.
'cause pain's a great motivator.
Pain is a great mover.
So for Amanda to guide us through alot of the bottlenecks that happen
in emergency rooms, that would be areally fascinating topic or episode
just to even dive into that more.
A lot of the misdiagnoses that happen theone that really probably stood out to me
(34:24):
ultimately was I think she said, KPI careis like these doctors and these patients,
the relationship is a patient is a number.
A lot of times, and it's get in thisemergency room, let's get you suited.
And off you go.
not really a right?
(34:44):
It's a, all right, thisis a profit center.
The hospitals have this particular number.
We need to see this amount ofpatients and prescribe this and
do this and create this, and thiscan very check, check oriented.
And that, to me, I did not know.
I did not know it worked that way
A little scary.
Dave Conley (35:02):
I've learned two things since then, and this is why I want to,
when we swing back around this, I wantto talk to some more people in this.
One, is that.
If a doctor doesn't put one of thosecodes in, that was Rihanna was talking
about, then they don't get paid.
And so they slot a lot of people intocodes because they'll get paid not
(35:25):
because of what the diagnosis actually is.
Not to say that they're wrong or off.
They're like, just close enough.
But, like it's an art.
We're human beings.
Like it's being a doctor is,you're an art, you're in an
art as much as a science.
And a large number of medical issuesor misdiagnosis or being treated
(35:47):
for something wrong happens earlyon in a process where somebody is
slotted into something and it's neverchanged later on because the doctor
was managing to a number and was,wherever in the process it was stuck
on the number and it wasn't stuck onthe human and what was going on there.
The other thing is those KPIs oftenhave like a satisfaction score.
(36:11):
And so if the doctor doesn'tgive somebody what they want,
then they'll get a bad review.
And it doesn't necessarily meanthat, the doctor, it's not a Yelp
review for a doctor, it's, sometimesdoctors have to do tough things.
I love that people are coming inmore knowledgeable, like my doctor
said, he expects somebody to come inwith I heard this on a podcast, or
(36:34):
I Googled this, or whatever, right?
And he gets to have actually muchbetter conversations with his patients.
So there's, on top of that, Amandawas talking about you only get
15 minutes and you're in and out.
And so the one thing youcan do is give him a pill.
So again, every piece of thatis ah, like that's when you're
just wanna throw it all out.
(36:54):
And now you're back atlet me ask you this.
What did we learn?
If you do get sick, most people are right?
the day before I met you.
Jerremy Newsome (37:04):
no.
I'm gonna pause this.
You're gonna tell your story,but when he says the day.
does mean an actual 24 hour period.
Keep going.
Dave Conley (37:11):
I called him from the hospital and he said, okay.
I said, okay.
I don't know what's gonna happen,but I think I'm still gonna come.
I won't know until I'm outta surgery.
And you're like, what?
And I'm like it's my appendix, right?
And they do have to rush meto emergency surgery and we'll
know more once I'm up and out.
And yeah, I was up and out like a fewhours later, like I had to go overnight.
(37:34):
and then I got on the plane thatday because I was like I can.
I can either sit around and belike, feeling sorry for myself
or I can get on a plane and that,that actually taught me some grace.
'cause I had to askfor help for everybody.
I couldn't lift anything.
So I had to ask every singleperson, it's like, Hey, I got a bag.
Would you mind lifting it up on thesecurity and would you mind lifting
it and putting it in the bin overhead?
(37:56):
So what did we learn aboutwhat happens when you get sick?
Jerremy Newsome (38:00):
Or even needing massive medical attention.
Dave Conley (38:02):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (38:03):
And I think the answer is our system right now it's both good
and bad because it works 85% of the time
Dave Conley (38:14):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (38:14):
But here's the challenge.
That's a b plus.
And when you're talking about hundredsof millions of people, that 15% is
an astronomically horrible number.
You're dealing with millionsthat are negatively impacted.
And yes, that is a problem,but I do not feel that there
is an authority, especially agovernmental authority right now.
Also, that's.
(38:35):
Extremely well geared towardsmaking our country run extremely
efficiently through a care system.
A care system of actuallypouring into the patients.
And to your point, I'll ask you thisquestion 'cause we did talk about it a
lot in conjunction with the insurance.
(38:56):
How did your insurance help yougetting your appendix taken out?
Was it a massive financial strain?
And what did you end uppaying, if you remember?
Dave Conley (39:06):
I do, I know exactly what it's, and I kept on putting
it off because I didn't want to getinto the medical industrial complex.
And finally I actually called my doctorand he said, look, man, you might be.
Hey, you're going in for surgery now.
I learned subsequently that Ididn't necessarily need surgery
(39:26):
that actually for an appendix.
If you do a heavy antibioticfor five days, it tends to
have the exact same result.
But that's neither here nor there.
I ended up talking to a surgeon before Italked to my doctor, but what surprised me
the most was the bill I got, it was zero.
Because I went to a hospitalthat happened to be completely
(39:47):
affiliated with my insurance company.
I had actually checked, withmy insurance company to be
like, okay, where should I go?
And they said, this hospitalturned out to be great.
And that was the lesson that I heardboth from Rihanna and from Nick, is
even if you can't make sure somebodyis there and they're asking questions
like, how much does this cost?
(40:09):
Give me the bill.
And you're not guiding the care.
You're saying, okay, what'snecessary, what's not?
Let's put it in the realm of choices,rather than saying, I need an $80 Tylenol.
Jerremy Newsome (40:22):
Yep.
Two of my favorite quotes and youalways help me in my presentations and
speaking, but one of them is you caneither be a victim or you can be a victor.
Then the other one of course is you canbe a warrior or you can be a warrior.
Dave Conley (40:35):
Say that again?
your accent aid into the, it's warrior.
Warrior or worrier.
Wow.
I like that
Jerremy Newsome (40:42):
Thanks man.
Thank you.
accent does get in the way of it alittle bit, so I try, like warrior or
Dave Conley (40:49):
Warrior.
Jerremy Newsome (40:50):
Do you worry or do you go to war?
Here it is, the big one, the big shift.
The reason I'm mentioning thosetwo statements, it is our personal
responsibility, Americans.
That's what I'm telling you.
We have to take personal responsibility.
All these other aspects are here for usas supplements, meaning supplementally.
(41:14):
We can do this in addition to, butwe have to focus on our health,
our finances, and our life.
No one is coming to save us.
we do this through diet, through exercise.
We do this with sleep, with savvychoices, working with professionals,
but not leaning on them.
(41:35):
This is gonna unlock alot of the broken systems.
So if I, talk about Zen,who was on episode 11,
Dave Conley (41:42):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (41:43):
Choosing organic.
Over Gmail laden food.
Boom, that's a choice.
It's gonna be more expensive.
Yes, it will.
Which now is gonna make youfocus more on your finances.
And that's one of the reasons thatyou came up to me after 16 hours of
getting your appendix removed, isI was like, Hey bro, I wanna coach
with you, work with me, work withmy wife, and we'll change your life.
(42:04):
I'll help you with your money, I'llhelp you understand all the things.
And then we ended up creatingthis together and I was like,
oh, that's why you're in my life.
This is awesome.
Dave Conley (42:10):
Here we are.
Jerremy Newsome (42:11):
Day one, you're like, you wanna run for president?
I'm gonna help you and here's
Dave Conley (42:15):
I am
Jerremy Newsome (42:16):
it.
Dave Conley (42:16):
number one in
Jerremy Newsome (42:17):
and you went all the way in.
So I'll take a quick secondand say, thank you man.
Thanks for being all the way in.
Thanks for loving on me and for pouringin 300 hours in the last few months,
Dave Conley (42:28):
it is maybe this last week.
Jerremy Newsome (42:30):
making this mission happen.
It's very appreciative
Dave Conley (42:33):
Wouldn't do it if I didn't believe in it.
And you, and what we're doing becausethis is about solving America's problems.
And I don't know if there's anything moreimportant than bringing, a better world,
Jerremy Newsome (42:45):
This is a very rare podcast.
You know this 'cause youconsume podcasts all the time.
But usually most politicalpodcasts are very one-sided.
They're not reallyspecifically bipartisan.
You and I have openly mentionedthat we don't agree on all policies,
Dave Conley (42:58):
Oh, no.
Jerremy Newsome (42:59):
nor should we.
And it's a fun discussion when we getto have our chats and we get to go see
things from different lenses and alsobring in guests that are well more
versed in certain things than we are.
Dave Conley (43:14):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (43:15):
again, man, when we were chatting with Zen,
when she was like, guys, eatingwell isn't just health, right?
It's defiance against a toxic food supply.
These personal choices that you'remaking, they're gonna shape your
outcomes that you have in life.
to me, as consumers, if we start makingthis choice that's gonna impact the
profits of these companies and that'sgonna naturally create a change to occur.
(43:39):
Right?
And then again, having the discussionsabout the health, what kept coming up
over and over and over again is we arein control more than we think we are.
Knowing and spending time to read thefine print on your medical policy, read
(44:00):
the fine print on the back of your foodlabel, that was like 25 minutes of what
Zen was referring to and talking about.
Sitting down
Dave Conley (44:11):
it was.
Jerremy Newsome (44:12):
conversations with these ER doctors, maybe even ahead of time.
Ha.
Have you ever heard of prehab?
Instead of going to rehab, you doeverything preliminary before it
actually begins, before it startsThese are, again, personal choices
that we can all make ahead of time.
We can have conversations with peoplenow, before we get sick determine,
(44:34):
the patterns of decisions and choicesthat we can make that allow us to not
necessarily always interact with asystem that we might feel is broken.
We don't even have to be a part of it.
We can only lean on it when wehave to Has it really ever led
us or caused us to go astray?
I've had tonsil surgery, I'vehad ear, nose and throat surgery.
(44:55):
I had a deviated septum.
I've had my wisdom teeth taken outand I had malaria once when I was 18.
Dave Conley (45:01):
Yeah.
Wow.
Jerremy Newsome (45:02):
sucked.
Dave Conley (45:02):
Oof.
Jerremy Newsome (45:03):
Don't get malaria and all in those situations, right?
Dave Conley (45:06):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (45:06):
with little or no insurance and everything
ended up becoming fine.
This is how I know about the plans,and this is how I know about when
we were asking the conversationswith Nick and Rhiannon's Hey, can
you have conversations with people?
Can you talk to these people?
Like how do you, what questions you ask.
I know about that 'cause I wentthrough it and I'm fully aware of this.
Listen, this is an educationalcomponent and there's that word again.
(45:27):
it all is everything that wedo, everything that we know.
It's always a choice.
It's always an opportunity.
It's an opportunity to grow, educate,shift, learn, and understand.
Dave Conley (45:35):
I think if there's one thing that we can.
Leave our listeners, and it's,I think it was the wisdom of
Zen that really sat with me.
And I've been thinking about it.
And actually, I was talking to adoctor friend of mine yesterday,
this is a scientist, right?
Like years and years of training.
And she's completely changed her practiceand her practice is much more holistic.
(45:56):
And if I described it to you, I thinkfor the vast majority of people it
would sound like voodoo and woo, right?
what I heard from Zen because thereis going to be a segment of people who
are like stuck in what institutionsand what mainstream and what, what
you hear and what is accepted science.
(46:17):
And they'll be like that's what it is.
And anything that questions that.
Cathedral is wrong andthose people are bad.
And like we bump and you bump intoit with getting people like RFKJ,
being told anti-vaxxer and having todescribe to people while he's not right.
Like he's just pro safety and let'sset that aside, what I heard from
(46:43):
Zen because, she can dip into thoseareas too with all sorts of things
I. That people are like, no, thesethings are safe and they're fine.
And I don't know if we're going toreach those people, but she left
us with one very powerful thingthat I think everybody can do.
And she's look, just Stay curious.
And if you try organic food for30 days and you feel better, then
(47:04):
that's all you really need to know.
If you just try something for 30 days,anything, more water, more movement, some
sunlight, some meditation, some whateverit is, eating GMO for one meal, right?
Or not, meaning not eating GMO, eatingorganic for one meal, stay if you can't
(47:24):
pronounce it, don't put it in your mouth,so it's there is a simplicity to this
and it'll keep you outta the hospitals.
It'll keep you out ofthe doctor's offices.
It will keep you healthier than that.
Jerremy Newsome (47:36):
Yeah, so if I had to say, Dave, like at the heart of what you
believe we found in the very first timethat we address together as a podcast and
as a team, making America healthy again?
How do we solve the problem thatexists right now as what we now know?
Dave Conley (48:03):
I know how difficult it is to do it by yourself.
I was 330 pounds overweight.
I had a beautiful, lovely wifeand yet, like I was choosing
differently for most of my life.
And I think, all of our guests inone way or another, kept on coming
back to community, and that's veryempowering, that allows people to
(48:26):
ask for and demand different things.
How about learning how to garden andgetting things like farmer's markets
and demanding that the stores nearyou have different choices and saying
that there's going to be demand forthese things because one person by
themselves can make a difference.
But as soon as you get your neighborinvolved, then you have two voices
(48:48):
and those two voices become fourand those four become eight, and
then you have a movement, andthat's when change really happens.
So I think there's a personalresponsibility aspect of this, and
we also learned that like 42% ofbirths, that's 1.5 million kids a
year get born into Medicaid, right?
(49:08):
That means, Medicaid is the insurance youhave when you can't afford anything else.
And so it's going to be communitystanding up and saying, Hey,
this needs to be different.
Jerremy Newsome (49:19):
Yep,
Dave Conley (49:19):
What about you?
Jerremy Newsome (49:20):
yep.
That's a community take.
It's the communities.
And I still man, forcefully, vehementlyagree and believe that a lot of this
change is Gonna start from the topof being a voice for the voiceless.
Being someone that knows the challenges,knows the struggle, didn't grow up.
(49:41):
As a billionaire, hashtagour current president didn't
grow up in the entire system.
Hashtag most of every singlepresident has come before us.
Not having a lens of thispolitical, systematic approach
where I take money bribes.
Dave Conley (50:03):
Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome (50:05):
instead of creating a system that has been infiltrated by again,
to the point any big company that hastons of profits is wanting more money.
You have someone like myself andlike many other candidates have
bought into the American dream.
We bought into it, wefinanced it, we grew it.
(50:29):
And that dream allowed other people to bepositively impacted other people to learn.
change, grow, become inspired,become motivated, then go
out and make that change.
That's the process, that's the cycle.
And I truly believe if we have someone whois focused on that, on the revitalization
(50:51):
of America's mental health, pouringinto the mental awareness, the positive
vibrational frequency, the shift fromnegative to positive, that in of itself is
gonna be a humongous impact on our health.
(51:12):
My man, I fully believe that.
'cause if you are drinking poison andyou're thinking negative thoughts for
our listeners, I'm sure you know this,but if you said to me, The things
that you say to yourself every day?
Would we be friends?
Would we even haveconversations with each other?
Would we ever talk?
The answer's?
Probably not, becausewe beat ourselves up.
(51:33):
We say so many negative things toourselves, and we very rarely have
someone else who's cheering us on.
That's gonna be the person I'm gonna be.
I'm gonna be that cheerleader.
I'm gonna be the focus.
I'm gonna help understand andlearn together as we continue to
grow and really truly track down.
What are some of the biggest challenges,the biggest hurdles, the biggest problems,
(51:56):
and the easiest, advantageous, implementalsolutions that we can start at right now.
But this will come with every singleone of you who are listening to
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