October 8, 2025 • 16 mins
Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley dissect the federal government shutdown, drawing sharp parallels to historical standoffs like Trump's 35-day border wall battle. They blast congressional inaction and zero consequences for officials dodging duties, while probing impacts on essential services and the economy. The talk heats up with Chicago's shocking ICE raid—Operation Midway Blitz—sparking fears of military force in domestic policing. A raw call for effective governance amid political games that punish everyday Americans.
Timestamps
- (00:00) Intro: Setting the Global Scene
- (00:12) Turkey's Political Clampdown: Speech Risks Abroad
- (00:42) Shutdown Realities: History and Economic Hits
- (03:14) Congressional Rage: Inaction Without Repercussions
- (12:06) Operation Midway Blitz: Military Raids in Chicago Streets
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Jerremy (00:00):
Fantastic.
So ladies and gentlemen, our boyDave Conley is an entirely different
country traveling the world.
Dave (00:10):
we are.
Jerremy (00:11):
Yep.
How was the political rest in Turkey
Dave (00:14):
I don't know if there's a lot I can say without being locked up.
Jerremy (00:18):
Fair?
Dave (00:18):
You think you think they have issues in the United
States, there's, it's nothing.
It's, it's like uk.
Yeah.
If you run a foul.
Of anything.
They can toss you outta the country.
There's not much you can say.
You have to say it, like behindclosed doors and nothing online.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jerremy (00:35):
Yeah.
Speaking of things not working.
Government's, one of them.
Dave (00:42):
Federal government shutdown enters day six.
Jerremy (00:45):
Yep.
And then we didn't have thisduring Trump's first term,
but we've had it before.
Dave (00:52):
Oh no he shut down the government.
He had one of the long, yeah, he hadone of the longest shutdowns ever.
Jerremy (00:58):
okay.
I didn't remember that.
Dave (01:00):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I actually pulled this data rightbefore I was like, ah, I'm wondering
if you might ask this question.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He had a big
Jerremy (01:08):
so this really is just copy paste.
Dave (01:11):
yeah, a little bit.
Yeah.
December 22nd, 2018 to January25th, 35 days, Trump demanded 5.7
billion for a border wall.
Democrats were like, Nope, you'renot getting your border wall.
So that was it.
Jerremy (01:27):
Okay.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Dave (01:30):
But you know what, it took after 35 days, which it was the longest we'd
ever had, things started really breakinglike planes started getting delayed
because air traffic controllers or andTSA, they worked for the government
and if you're told to come into work,but you're not getting paid after
a month, I'm gonna just say, yoursick leave is going to get eaten up.
Jerremy (01:54):
Yeah.
Dave (01:54):
So yeah, that wasn't good, but here we are again.
Like it is a bit of acopy paste this time.
It's I don't know.
What's your view of this?
I got a pretty strong view onthis, but I want to hear, I wanna
hear the Jerremy Newsom take.
Jerremy (02:06):
Yeah.
I, I.
it was gonna happen as soon as peoplestarted talking about it on Twitter.
So that's probably my best newssource right now is like that.
I know it's pretty strong though.
There's a lot of very smart people again,on both sides of the party both sides of
the fence and Yeah, it was, they're like,yep, the government's gonna shut down.
(02:28):
And people were betting on it onRobin Hood and, but this is there.
There's a few things that are interestingabout this on, I think the biggest one,
when I say copy and paste, what I meanby that personally is we can really
just go through almost all the thingsthat happened in Trump's first term and
(02:51):
probably assume that something like that,or very similar is going to happen again
in this term because he's just following.
The same rule book.
Pushing people around, being a baby,
Dave (03:04):
Seeing what breaks.
Jerremy (03:06):
seeing what breaks.
Exactly.
Trying to get his way with everything.
Yeah.
What's your I like to hearyour strong takes man.
Everyone does.
Dave (03:14):
Congress has had an entire year to do their job.
And their biggest job in theConstitution is to be the purse strings.
That's their gig.
You've got one job.
Pass the laws, make sure they're allpaid for, and you've had an entire
year and they couldn't get it together.
And it bothers me a great dealthat our representatives work.
(03:40):
Three or four days a week, and theytake five weeks off every summer.
They'll take five week recess startingin Thanksgiving and Christmas.
They work maybe a thousand hours nowthey're gonna come back and say no.
We're working all the time.
We're always on the phone.
(04:00):
Yeah, you're on thephone raising money, you.
You're not in session, you'renot debating, you're not in
congress, you're not at your job,you're not at your desk, right?
You're working remote and you've hadan entire year and they managed to pass
three spending bills and then doing thethe big, bold, beautiful, whatever it
(04:21):
was, big, bad, weird bill, which was.
Just a continuation.
It was a cr continuing resolutionessentially says, oh, we're
not gonna make any changes.
We're just gonna keep on keepingon from last year's, which last
year's was the previous years.
And the previous yearswas the previous years.
Like we're still spending at COVID levels.
So Congress hasn't done theirjob and we're supposed to sit
(04:42):
here and be happy about that.
Or not happy, but like cheering them onfor shutdowns for not doing their job.
This is just with record.
Disapproval on all of these jokers.
They're just not doing their job.
And if things that mattered tothem actually stopped working
(05:05):
oh, their power goes out.
Oh, they can't pay their bills.
That whatever companies theyown stop functioning, that their
stock portfolios start diving.
If they took actual.
Brunt on this instead of somebody who'son the margins of society can't get
(05:25):
their supplemental income for feedingtheir children not getting paid, I wanna
put them under some severe distress.
Oh, hey, by the way, you don't have anysecurity anymore because your security
went home because you couldn't pay them.
You better believe that they would geton it because they would fear, they would
have actual pain in their life rather thanjust sitting there and pointing fingers at
(05:46):
each other and slinging, slinging terriblenames and funny meme memes at each other.
And like it, it's a show.
I think you've said this a bunch oftimes, like every time there's economic
turmoil, like every time we have arecession, it means suicides go up.
It means families are displaced.
It means, it, it causes a lot of pain.
(06:07):
We're not getting any of the pain becausenone of our representatives are feeling
any pain because they made sure thateverything that they worry about keeps
functioning and the, and what theirbuddies, want to keep working like.
If the SEC shut down and all the marketsshut down, hey, you better believe that
they would actually get something done.
Jerremy (06:28):
Yeah.
That's a beautiful point.
There's not enough pain,there's not enough consequences.
Dave (06:32):
No,
Jerremy (06:33):
There's not really any repercussions for anyone in
government failing to do something.
Dave (06:41):
They get promoted.
Jerremy (06:42):
Which
Dave (06:43):
It's oh, you've screwed this up.
Fantastic.
Why don't you be secretary of this now?
Or why don't you be leader, God,
Jerremy (06:50):
yeah,
Dave (06:51):
for president because you can't do your job here.
Jerremy (06:54):
Yeah, precisely.
It is it is very strangethat you're absolutely right?
They usually get promoted.
They usually get moved onto a more important office.
And so we really celebrate mediocritya huge way in the government.
And you said this to me, I thinkthe very, very first time we met.
Where the, one of the biggest goals,one of your biggest hopes and one of
(07:16):
your biggest dreams would be to getincredibly talented, charismatic, kind,
amazing, smart, talented people in dc
Dave (07:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right now
Jerremy (07:24):
instead of them becoming, yeah.
YouTubers
Dave (07:27):
New York,
Jerremy (07:28):
movie stars or, yeah, instead of going to Silicon Valley
to make a bunch of money, they shouldgo to Washington DC to be awesome
representatives because we do notreally truly have people that just love.
Getting it done.
Getting it finished.
This is a great example of it.
That's why Trump is all angry and shuttingit down is 'cause ain't doing their job.
Dave (07:51):
They need to be talking right now about next year spending.
Not la 20, not 2025, fiscal 2026.
They need to be talking about 2027and they can't even get this straight.
It's just, it's maddening.
I went through a shutdown whenI worked for the government.
I was with the US Patent and TrademarkOffice, and we get our funding
from the fees, so we actually stayopen and we keep getting paid.
(08:14):
But a lot of the organization, alot of the part of the government
that we don't, that we do work with,like Department of Treasury and
broader commerce does shut down.
So you have to do a lot of planning.
So as a result of this shutdown,the federal government, has, that's
already been under a lot of stress.
This, this time around with Trump, spentfour to six weeks planning for a shutdown.
(08:40):
Then you go through a shutdown andthe few people that are actually
left are doing, trying to do alot, trying to keep the lights on
essentially and keep, something moving.
Or you have people there who aren'tgetting paid, which is not good.
And then when you come back,everybody gets their back pay.
So you get a lot of people who'vebeen off for like weeks, potentially.
(09:02):
They get all their back pay.
Yay.
Great.
And then you spend weeks ramping back up.
If you haven't been at your deskfor, when was the last time?
35 days.
If you haven't been at your desk for35 days, it's like coming off of a
long vacation, it's okay, where am I?
What's going on?
Does my email work?
So there's like a lot of backlog.
So this shutdown, even at six days forevery day that it goes on, is gonna
(09:26):
mean another week of ramping back up.
That's the piece that, the partsof government that do work and
that do important stuff, they're,we just blew basically the entire
fall because of six days and godknows how long this is gonna last.
Crazy.
Good job.
Good job.
Jerremy (09:43):
gotta take some bets.
Yeah.
But we, Dave, we gotta take some
Dave (09:46):
Oh, is it under over?
Jerremy (09:48):
longer.
You about to say longeror shorter than last?
Shut down.
The Trump had that I was unaware of.
Dave (09:54):
35 days.
I think this will be shorterbecause of the time of year
meaning that we're coming up onthe holidays and there's one thing
I know about Congress is thatthey love their vacations, right?
And if the government is shut down,it means that they can't go on
Thanksgiving, they can't go to Christmas,that they're stuck in Washington.
So the one bit of saving graces thatCongress looks out for themselves
(10:16):
and so they'll want they want theirThanksgiving and they want this.
So if anything, they will passa continuing resolution, which
basically says, fund the governmentat previous levels, essentially.
Yeah, we can't do our job.
So just keep on keeping on witheverything that you've already done.
Yeah.
So keep doing that.
Jerremy (10:34):
Yeah.
Dave (10:34):
And then they'll kick it down the road until January when they
want to come back and do something.
So that's what they'll do.
So they'll pass that they'resupposed to vote on it today.
See if they can just do a cr today.
I don't think they will, but we'll see.
Jerremy (10:46):
You and I agree on that.
I think that's, yeah, I was gonnasay it's probably gonna be shorter
'cause it's just where it is.
You got Halloween comingup, Thanksgiving's coming
up, Christmas coming up.
They want to be with their families.
They don't wanna work.
Dave (10:57):
no.
And planes, it, it'll put a lotof stress on planes in particular,
and this is travel season, right?
And people spending forChristmas, it adds uncertainty.
Uncertainty in the markets, we don'tsee much government, quote unquote
but man, if you need anything from thegovernment, if you need a passport, if
you need to do something with socialsecurity, if you need to, if need
(11:19):
to do something around your taxes orwhatever, if you actually touch the
federal government right now, forget it.
So it's, it'll increase in frustration.
The thing that, that popped it open, Idon't know if it was this one or if it was
the one I was in, it was Obama's shutdown.
Was when people couldn't visit nationalparks and people were like, what?
(11:40):
What do you mean Yellowstone is closed?
I'm like, yeah, turns out that yournational parks are run by federal workers,
Jerremy (11:47):
yeah.
Dave (11:48):
so that was like the big thing, which was like, people were complaining
that, their national parks andthat means like museums are closed.
If you're going to Washington,DC if you're going to a national
park, it ain't gonna work, baby.
So we'll see.
Yeah.
Under 35 days.
That's my read.
Jerremy (12:02):
Okay.
I like it.
I agree.
Talk to me about Operation MidwayBlitz, how much I, I haven't actually
seen any of this at all, anywhere.
Dave (12:15):
Whoa.
Jerremy (12:16):
Which is concerning, by the way.
Dave (12:18):
Yeah.
Okay.
Department of Homeland Security,immigration enforcement comes
into Chicago and it's Black Hawk.
Do you hear that in my, youdon't hear anything in my,
my, it's the call to prayer.
I'm in Turkey right now.
So you get calls to prayerand it's really cool.
It's very ethereal and it's
Jerremy (12:37):
yep.
It's, yeah, I, when I was in Dubai,I heard that all, often I think
whatever, every three to five hours, but
Dave (12:45):
Five times a day.
Yeah.
It's cool.
Oh, okay.
So Midnight Blitz.
Yeah they showed up in Chicago in aChicago neighborhood and just started zip
ding kids and coming down from Black Hawkhelicopters and it was, it was shocking
that, it's exactly what what's his name?
(13:05):
Jones.
What's Jones' full name?
Why am I blanking on the Sandy Hook guy?
Jerremy (13:10):
Alex
Dave (13:10):
Alex Jones.
It's exactly what Alex Jones has beenlike saying that the government's
gonna do for a million years, whichis they're gonna, it's gonna be black
hook helicopters, and they're gonnabe coming in and they're gonna be like
spiriting people away and taking 'emto off, to secret government, sites.
And that's exactly what they did.
I mean it like, it looked bonkers.
So yeah they did it as a big ice raid.
(13:31):
And yeah, just as Chicago, south Sideand South Shore, if you've ever been
there it's a rough frigging neighborhood.
It's not great.
Then you put that on top of, Trumpaddressing all the generals saying,
Hey, we're going to, we're gonna,we're gonna put US troops in cities
and use them as training grounds.
And I'm like, oh my God.
This is everything that AlexJones was talking about.
It's like the government's coming to getus, there was this thing a number of years
(13:53):
ago during the Obama administration where.
There was a military thing goingon, like on the Texas border.
It was a training exercise and youcouldn't not hear about it on Fox News.
And every, conspiracy theory that likeit was, it, it was FEMA camps and we
were gonna be rounding up everybody.
It was crazy.
It's actually happening, right?
And it's under a, it's under Republicanadministration, not under Obama.
(14:17):
Yeah it's absolutely.
It's crazy.
And so it's this sort of it's put asthis national security imperative.
But man, our helicopters and flashbangs like really essential to
dismantling this trend ar our ar, gu ar.
I don't know how I don'teven know what it is, right?
Some South American gang, it's,it doesn't seem good, man.
Jerremy (14:41):
It is, it's a little what did we say two, two or three weeks ago?
The fact that Alex Jones isstarting to make a lot of
Dave (14:49):
Oh, yeah.
Jerremy (14:49):
oh, wow, Tucker Carlson is really on point with this message.
Dave (14:54):
Is your side really winning?
If Chuckle Carlson isyour your voice of reason
Candace Owens, or Mar MarjorieTaylor Greene is making sense.
It's are you really winning?
If they're the one, they'rethe standard bearers now,
Jerremy (15:09):
Yeah, so that's the thing is that it is, it's it is happening like there is,
Trump is definitely using a really big useof military force right now at whim to do.
Whatever he wants in a way,
Dave (15:21):
Yeah, nobody's stopping
Jerremy (15:22):
It's no.
Dave (15:24):
I, it feels if this was any other point in history, we'd be like, oh no.
This all happened, the last timethis happened was like Kent State,
when National Guard was sent and shotup a bunch of kids at Kent State.
Jerremy (15:39):
Yeah.
Dave (15:39):
I don't know, man, this doesn't feel good.
It feels profoundly un-Americanto be, doing this kind of heavy
law enforcement and these very.
Very big attacks on things.
But man, on the other hand, people dowant law enforcement, some of these
communities are coming, popping uplike in Washington DC and saying, yeah,
we, we do want safety and security,but I don't think we give up our civil
(16:03):
liberties for safety and security.
There's all sorts of founding fathersthat warned us against that one.
Jerremy (16:08):
Yep.
Two or three of 'em.
Dave (16:11):
Don't, it's if you, if it's all safety and security you don't,
what's it Franklin said, we've givenyou a democracy, if you can keep
it, so you didn't see any of this?
Maybe, maybe it was just blown up online.
I, I didn't see it online.
I actually heard it on the news.
Maybe it's much smaller.
It's hard for me to tell, we'regetting increasingly in a post reality
(16:31):
world, it's hard for me to tell what'sactually big and what's actually not.
Alex (16:36):
Dave slams congressional inaction as a clown show, while Jerremy
calls out the lack of consequences.
The frustration boils—if leaders face nopain, how deep does the dysfunction run?
But next, the market's soaringhighs hide looming cracks.
Fantastic.
So ladies and gentlemen, our boyDave Conley is an entirely different
country traveling the world.
Dave (00:10):
we are.
Jerremy (00:11):
Yep.
How was the political rest in Turkey
Dave (00:14):
I don't know if there's a lot I can say without being locked up.
Jerremy (00:18):
Fair?
Dave (00:18):
You think you think they have issues in the United
States, there's, it's nothing.
It's, it's like uk.
Yeah.
If you run a foul.
Of anything.
They can toss you outta the country.
There's not much you can say.
You have to say it, like behindclosed doors and nothing online.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jerremy (00:35):
Yeah.
Speaking of things not working.
Government's, one of them.
Dave (00:42):
Federal government shutdown enters day six.
Jerremy (00:45):
Yep.
And then we didn't have thisduring Trump's first term,
but we've had it before.
Dave (00:52):
Oh no he shut down the government.
He had one of the long, yeah, he hadone of the longest shutdowns ever.
Jerremy (00:58):
okay.
I didn't remember that.
Dave (01:00):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I actually pulled this data rightbefore I was like, ah, I'm wondering
if you might ask this question.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He had a big
Jerremy (01:08):
so this really is just copy paste.
Dave (01:11):
yeah, a little bit.
Yeah.
December 22nd, 2018 to January25th, 35 days, Trump demanded 5.7
billion for a border wall.
Democrats were like, Nope, you'renot getting your border wall.
So that was it.
Jerremy (01:27):
Okay.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Dave (01:30):
But you know what, it took after 35 days, which it was the longest we'd
ever had, things started really breakinglike planes started getting delayed
because air traffic controllers or andTSA, they worked for the government
and if you're told to come into work,but you're not getting paid after
a month, I'm gonna just say, yoursick leave is going to get eaten up.
Jerremy (01:54):
Yeah.
Dave (01:54):
So yeah, that wasn't good, but here we are again.
Like it is a bit of acopy paste this time.
It's I don't know.
What's your view of this?
I got a pretty strong view onthis, but I want to hear, I wanna
hear the Jerremy Newsom take.
Jerremy (02:06):
Yeah.
I, I.
it was gonna happen as soon as peoplestarted talking about it on Twitter.
So that's probably my best newssource right now is like that.
I know it's pretty strong though.
There's a lot of very smart people again,on both sides of the party both sides of
the fence and Yeah, it was, they're like,yep, the government's gonna shut down.
(02:28):
And people were betting on it onRobin Hood and, but this is there.
There's a few things that are interestingabout this on, I think the biggest one,
when I say copy and paste, what I meanby that personally is we can really
just go through almost all the thingsthat happened in Trump's first term and
(02:51):
probably assume that something like that,or very similar is going to happen again
in this term because he's just following.
The same rule book.
Pushing people around, being a baby,
Dave (03:04):
Seeing what breaks.
Jerremy (03:06):
seeing what breaks.
Exactly.
Trying to get his way with everything.
Yeah.
What's your I like to hearyour strong takes man.
Everyone does.
Dave (03:14):
Congress has had an entire year to do their job.
And their biggest job in theConstitution is to be the purse strings.
That's their gig.
You've got one job.
Pass the laws, make sure they're allpaid for, and you've had an entire
year and they couldn't get it together.
And it bothers me a great dealthat our representatives work.
(03:40):
Three or four days a week, and theytake five weeks off every summer.
They'll take five week recess startingin Thanksgiving and Christmas.
They work maybe a thousand hours nowthey're gonna come back and say no.
We're working all the time.
We're always on the phone.
(04:00):
Yeah, you're on thephone raising money, you.
You're not in session, you'renot debating, you're not in
congress, you're not at your job,you're not at your desk, right?
You're working remote and you've hadan entire year and they managed to pass
three spending bills and then doing thethe big, bold, beautiful, whatever it
(04:21):
was, big, bad, weird bill, which was.
Just a continuation.
It was a cr continuing resolutionessentially says, oh, we're
not gonna make any changes.
We're just gonna keep on keepingon from last year's, which last
year's was the previous years.
And the previous yearswas the previous years.
Like we're still spending at COVID levels.
So Congress hasn't done theirjob and we're supposed to sit
(04:42):
here and be happy about that.
Or not happy, but like cheering them onfor shutdowns for not doing their job.
This is just with record.
Disapproval on all of these jokers.
They're just not doing their job.
And if things that mattered tothem actually stopped working
(05:05):
oh, their power goes out.
Oh, they can't pay their bills.
That whatever companies theyown stop functioning, that their
stock portfolios start diving.
If they took actual.
Brunt on this instead of somebody who'son the margins of society can't get
(05:25):
their supplemental income for feedingtheir children not getting paid, I wanna
put them under some severe distress.
Oh, hey, by the way, you don't have anysecurity anymore because your security
went home because you couldn't pay them.
You better believe that they would geton it because they would fear, they would
have actual pain in their life rather thanjust sitting there and pointing fingers at
(05:46):
each other and slinging, slinging terriblenames and funny meme memes at each other.
And like it, it's a show.
I think you've said this a bunch oftimes, like every time there's economic
turmoil, like every time we have arecession, it means suicides go up.
It means families are displaced.
It means, it, it causes a lot of pain.
(06:07):
We're not getting any of the pain becausenone of our representatives are feeling
any pain because they made sure thateverything that they worry about keeps
functioning and the, and what theirbuddies, want to keep working like.
If the SEC shut down and all the marketsshut down, hey, you better believe that
they would actually get something done.
Jerremy (06:28):
Yeah.
That's a beautiful point.
There's not enough pain,there's not enough consequences.
Dave (06:32):
No,
Jerremy (06:33):
There's not really any repercussions for anyone in
government failing to do something.
Dave (06:41):
They get promoted.
Jerremy (06:42):
Which
Dave (06:43):
It's oh, you've screwed this up.
Fantastic.
Why don't you be secretary of this now?
Or why don't you be leader, God,
Jerremy (06:50):
yeah,
Dave (06:51):
for president because you can't do your job here.
Jerremy (06:54):
Yeah, precisely.
It is it is very strangethat you're absolutely right?
They usually get promoted.
They usually get moved onto a more important office.
And so we really celebrate mediocritya huge way in the government.
And you said this to me, I thinkthe very, very first time we met.
Where the, one of the biggest goals,one of your biggest hopes and one of
(07:16):
your biggest dreams would be to getincredibly talented, charismatic, kind,
amazing, smart, talented people in dc
Dave (07:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right now
Jerremy (07:24):
instead of them becoming, yeah.
YouTubers
Dave (07:27):
New York,
Jerremy (07:28):
movie stars or, yeah, instead of going to Silicon Valley
to make a bunch of money, they shouldgo to Washington DC to be awesome
representatives because we do notreally truly have people that just love.
Getting it done.
Getting it finished.
This is a great example of it.
That's why Trump is all angry and shuttingit down is 'cause ain't doing their job.
Dave (07:51):
They need to be talking right now about next year spending.
Not la 20, not 2025, fiscal 2026.
They need to be talking about 2027and they can't even get this straight.
It's just, it's maddening.
I went through a shutdown whenI worked for the government.
I was with the US Patent and TrademarkOffice, and we get our funding
from the fees, so we actually stayopen and we keep getting paid.
(08:14):
But a lot of the organization, alot of the part of the government
that we don't, that we do work with,like Department of Treasury and
broader commerce does shut down.
So you have to do a lot of planning.
So as a result of this shutdown,the federal government, has, that's
already been under a lot of stress.
This, this time around with Trump, spentfour to six weeks planning for a shutdown.
(08:40):
Then you go through a shutdown andthe few people that are actually
left are doing, trying to do alot, trying to keep the lights on
essentially and keep, something moving.
Or you have people there who aren'tgetting paid, which is not good.
And then when you come back,everybody gets their back pay.
So you get a lot of people who'vebeen off for like weeks, potentially.
(09:02):
They get all their back pay.
Yay.
Great.
And then you spend weeks ramping back up.
If you haven't been at your deskfor, when was the last time?
35 days.
If you haven't been at your desk for35 days, it's like coming off of a
long vacation, it's okay, where am I?
What's going on?
Does my email work?
So there's like a lot of backlog.
So this shutdown, even at six days forevery day that it goes on, is gonna
(09:26):
mean another week of ramping back up.
That's the piece that, the partsof government that do work and
that do important stuff, they're,we just blew basically the entire
fall because of six days and godknows how long this is gonna last.
Crazy.
Good job.
Good job.
Jerremy (09:43):
gotta take some bets.
Yeah.
But we, Dave, we gotta take some
Dave (09:46):
Oh, is it under over?
Jerremy (09:48):
longer.
You about to say longeror shorter than last?
Shut down.
The Trump had that I was unaware of.
Dave (09:54):
35 days.
I think this will be shorterbecause of the time of year
meaning that we're coming up onthe holidays and there's one thing
I know about Congress is thatthey love their vacations, right?
And if the government is shut down,it means that they can't go on
Thanksgiving, they can't go to Christmas,that they're stuck in Washington.
So the one bit of saving graces thatCongress looks out for themselves
(10:16):
and so they'll want they want theirThanksgiving and they want this.
So if anything, they will passa continuing resolution, which
basically says, fund the governmentat previous levels, essentially.
Yeah, we can't do our job.
So just keep on keeping on witheverything that you've already done.
Yeah.
So keep doing that.
Jerremy (10:34):
Yeah.
Dave (10:34):
And then they'll kick it down the road until January when they
want to come back and do something.
So that's what they'll do.
So they'll pass that they'resupposed to vote on it today.
See if they can just do a cr today.
I don't think they will, but we'll see.
Jerremy (10:46):
You and I agree on that.
I think that's, yeah, I was gonnasay it's probably gonna be shorter
'cause it's just where it is.
You got Halloween comingup, Thanksgiving's coming
up, Christmas coming up.
They want to be with their families.
They don't wanna work.
Dave (10:57):
no.
And planes, it, it'll put a lotof stress on planes in particular,
and this is travel season, right?
And people spending forChristmas, it adds uncertainty.
Uncertainty in the markets, we don'tsee much government, quote unquote
but man, if you need anything from thegovernment, if you need a passport, if
you need to do something with socialsecurity, if you need to, if need
(11:19):
to do something around your taxes orwhatever, if you actually touch the
federal government right now, forget it.
So it's, it'll increase in frustration.
The thing that, that popped it open, Idon't know if it was this one or if it was
the one I was in, it was Obama's shutdown.
Was when people couldn't visit nationalparks and people were like, what?
(11:40):
What do you mean Yellowstone is closed?
I'm like, yeah, turns out that yournational parks are run by federal workers,
Jerremy (11:47):
yeah.
Dave (11:48):
so that was like the big thing, which was like, people were complaining
that, their national parks andthat means like museums are closed.
If you're going to Washington,DC if you're going to a national
park, it ain't gonna work, baby.
So we'll see.
Yeah.
Under 35 days.
That's my read.
Jerremy (12:02):
Okay.
I like it.
I agree.
Talk to me about Operation MidwayBlitz, how much I, I haven't actually
seen any of this at all, anywhere.
Dave (12:15):
Whoa.
Jerremy (12:16):
Which is concerning, by the way.
Dave (12:18):
Yeah.
Okay.
Department of Homeland Security,immigration enforcement comes
into Chicago and it's Black Hawk.
Do you hear that in my, youdon't hear anything in my,
my, it's the call to prayer.
I'm in Turkey right now.
So you get calls to prayerand it's really cool.
It's very ethereal and it's
Jerremy (12:37):
yep.
It's, yeah, I, when I was in Dubai,I heard that all, often I think
whatever, every three to five hours, but
Dave (12:45):
Five times a day.
Yeah.
It's cool.
Oh, okay.
So Midnight Blitz.
Yeah they showed up in Chicago in aChicago neighborhood and just started zip
ding kids and coming down from Black Hawkhelicopters and it was, it was shocking
that, it's exactly what what's his name?
(13:05):
Jones.
What's Jones' full name?
Why am I blanking on the Sandy Hook guy?
Jerremy (13:10):
Alex
Dave (13:10):
Alex Jones.
It's exactly what Alex Jones has beenlike saying that the government's
gonna do for a million years, whichis they're gonna, it's gonna be black
hook helicopters, and they're gonnabe coming in and they're gonna be like
spiriting people away and taking 'emto off, to secret government, sites.
And that's exactly what they did.
I mean it like, it looked bonkers.
So yeah they did it as a big ice raid.
(13:31):
And yeah, just as Chicago, south Sideand South Shore, if you've ever been
there it's a rough frigging neighborhood.
It's not great.
Then you put that on top of, Trumpaddressing all the generals saying,
Hey, we're going to, we're gonna,we're gonna put US troops in cities
and use them as training grounds.
And I'm like, oh my God.
This is everything that AlexJones was talking about.
It's like the government's coming to getus, there was this thing a number of years
(13:53):
ago during the Obama administration where.
There was a military thing goingon, like on the Texas border.
It was a training exercise and youcouldn't not hear about it on Fox News.
And every, conspiracy theory that likeit was, it, it was FEMA camps and we
were gonna be rounding up everybody.
It was crazy.
It's actually happening, right?
And it's under a, it's under Republicanadministration, not under Obama.
(14:17):
Yeah it's absolutely.
It's crazy.
And so it's this sort of it's put asthis national security imperative.
But man, our helicopters and flashbangs like really essential to
dismantling this trend ar our ar, gu ar.
I don't know how I don'teven know what it is, right?
Some South American gang, it's,it doesn't seem good, man.
Jerremy (14:41):
It is, it's a little what did we say two, two or three weeks ago?
The fact that Alex Jones isstarting to make a lot of
Dave (14:49):
Oh, yeah.
Jerremy (14:49):
oh, wow, Tucker Carlson is really on point with this message.
Dave (14:54):
Is your side really winning?
If Chuckle Carlson isyour your voice of reason
Candace Owens, or Mar MarjorieTaylor Greene is making sense.
It's are you really winning?
If they're the one, they'rethe standard bearers now,
Jerremy (15:09):
Yeah, so that's the thing is that it is, it's it is happening like there is,
Trump is definitely using a really big useof military force right now at whim to do.
Whatever he wants in a way,
Dave (15:21):
Yeah, nobody's stopping
Jerremy (15:22):
It's no.
Dave (15:24):
I, it feels if this was any other point in history, we'd be like, oh no.
This all happened, the last timethis happened was like Kent State,
when National Guard was sent and shotup a bunch of kids at Kent State.
Jerremy (15:39):
Yeah.
Dave (15:39):
I don't know, man, this doesn't feel good.
It feels profoundly un-Americanto be, doing this kind of heavy
law enforcement and these very.
Very big attacks on things.
But man, on the other hand, people dowant law enforcement, some of these
communities are coming, popping uplike in Washington DC and saying, yeah,
we, we do want safety and security,but I don't think we give up our civil
(16:03):
liberties for safety and security.
There's all sorts of founding fathersthat warned us against that one.
Jerremy (16:08):
Yep.
Two or three of 'em.
Dave (16:11):
Don't, it's if you, if it's all safety and security you don't,
what's it Franklin said, we've givenyou a democracy, if you can keep
it, so you didn't see any of this?
Maybe, maybe it was just blown up online.
I, I didn't see it online.
I actually heard it on the news.
Maybe it's much smaller.
It's hard for me to tell, we'regetting increasingly in a post reality
(16:31):
world, it's hard for me to tell what'sactually big and what's actually not.
Alex (16:36):
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