Special Guest Host: Robyn Ivy - Mastering Money's Energy for Abundance and Wholeness - Solving America's Problems

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Robyn Ivy (00:00):
Hi.
Welcome back to SolvingAmerica's Problems.
I'm your guest host, Robyn Ivy.
Today we're doing something different.
I get to interview one of my favoritepeople of all time, and kind of like
a brother to me, Dave Conley, who'sliving in a support role of Jerremy.
And I couldn't be happierto meet you Jerremy and

Jerremy (00:17):
Likewise.

Robyn Ivy (00:18):
I sort of take over your podcast.
Thanks

Jerremy (00:21):
is.
It's, yeah, it's gonna be so fun.
So fun.
I love interacting with new people.

Robyn Ivy (00:27):
Yeah, this is great.
It's great to do a little bitof a, um, friendly takeover
of somebody else's space.

Jerremy (00:33):
Yeah, likewise.

Robyn Ivy (00:34):
So for your listeners who don't know who I am, my name's Robin Ivy.
I'm a life coach.
I live here in Rhode Island, but travelaround the world teaching and presenting.
And um, I'm a medium and intuitiveguide and I host the Robin Ivy podcast
where we talk about navigating changeand creating the life you want while
you navigate the one you actually have.
Uh, we dive deep in all sortsof spiritual conversations.

(00:56):
I talk about thought leadershipand really how to change your
life from the inside out.
So this felt like a pretty cool placeto talk about solving problems and
all the things you guys talk about.

Jerremy (01:08):
Yeah, absolutely.
I think blending and co-creating bothworlds will be, uh, very magical.

Robyn Ivy (01:14):
Yeah.
Cool.
So, Jerremy, when I was inMiami, um, a couple weeks ago
with Dave, he said somethingthat's like really stuck with me.
He said, of all the things that he'slearned from hanging out with you, that
you sang to him, that your relationshipto money is essentially the same
as your relationship to everything.
And that if you figure out yourrelationship to relationship, then

(01:34):
your to money will completely change.
How true is that?
And tell me about that.

Jerremy (01:41):
Radically true.
Uh, in my opinion, I, I feel likemoney is a relationship, energy.
And one thing that I've noticed forsome people, not everyone, but a lot
of people have commitment problems.
We have commitment issues, so,

Robyn Ivy (01:56):
I can't relate.

Dave (01:58):
me either.

Jerremy (02:00):
so, you know, picking something and sticking to it like, all right, cool.
I guess me and you for a long, long,long time is really, really challenging.
And.

Robyn Ivy (02:10):
uh.

Jerremy (02:10):
For money that oftentimes can feel the same as well, where you
get some, but you never feel like it'senough and it doesn't stay with you
very long because as soon as you getit, you pay all the bills, you pay off
your debts, you pay all the things.
And it's like, well, yeah, that'swhat some I'm supposed to do.
But then the money doesn't really staythere, just like a relationship might not.

(02:32):
And you always feel like you're in thiscircle of the perpetual ness of not ever
having enough, or the individuals thatdo actually have plenty of money, not
recognizing and realizing that they haveenough, not feeling like they have enough.
So it's very much one thing to be rich.
It's another thing to feel rich.
It's one thing to have prosperity.
It's another thing to perpetuallycreate prosperity and to scale it

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and to grow it and to have more of itjust like in a relationship, right?
Having more love and having loveexpand versus picking someone and
just dealing with all of theirproblems again, big, big shifts there.

Robyn Ivy (03:10):
Mm-hmm.
Tell me how you know this.

Jerremy (03:14):
Well, I've studied both relationships and money in depth, uh,
very closely for a long period of time.
Um, the relationship piece, more from thestudy of energy, masculine and feminine
energy and just kind of understandingto the best of my ability, what, what
embodies an individual, what they carrywith them from a day-to-day basis, what

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they actually do, what they say, whatthey use, and what type of energy that
is holding within themselves and what thepurpose of it is and why they're doing it.
And then also the money piece kind ofhappened to me and for me, and then
ultimately through me and the money.
Uh, understanding money,understanding how it moves was

(03:58):
just always fascinating to me.
I love the stock market since avery little kid and seeing how both
of them connected was really as Igot closer and closer to my wife.
We got married five years ago in February.
As that relationship started comingtogether, it made it a lot more clear.
'cause she's very much more in your world.
So she has her doctorate in metaphysics,so she's very, very, uh, she's

(04:23):
the queen of the Woo, like, as youknow, far as you can go into ville.
My wife is the mayor of, of

Robyn Ivy (04:30):
Yeah.

Jerremy (04:31):
and

Robyn Ivy (04:32):
Uhhuh.

Jerremy (04:33):
learning about her world and, oh, you two will have a blast.
You two will have a blast.
So she, she loves it.
But, and then, and then seeing her,her unique struggle when we met about
charging money for her services.
Keeping money, how she did it, how shethought about it, and then just having
really in depth conversations from someonewho's way smarter than I am in everything.

(04:58):
Uh, and then having this back and forthdialogue of why was she struggling
with growing her business or makinga lot more money, or keeping a lot
of money or feeling safe aroundmoney or feeling safe around men.
And just having this really coolback and forth and just relaying
it and tying it all to money.
Yeah, it's been an awesome, awesomejourney for the last five or six years.

Robyn Ivy (05:21):
So for my people, Jerremy, who've never heard of you and are
excited to be meeting you like I am,can you give us a little bit of the
backstory to put yourself in context?

Jerremy (05:31):
Yeah, totally.
I'll do it.
And three minutes.
I grew up in Georgia.
I lived in a very impoverished place.
Uh, so about as poor as you can growup in the United States of America.
I grew up in a singlewide trailer tree house.
With no running water, with noair conditioning in Georgia.
So it was always hot,it was always sticky.
Mosquitoes the size of Pterodactyls would

Robyn Ivy (05:53):
Uhhuh.

Jerremy (05:53):
be my constant companion.
And I watched a movie for the veryfirst time that changed my life.
In 1994.
It was me, my father,and my oldest brother.
Uh, his name is Jerry Roger.
And we watched the movie Forrest Gumpand 80% of the movie Forrest starts
recounting the story about how heand Lieutenant Dan are investing.

(06:14):
So he says, Lieutenant Dan invested intosome kind of fruit company and said, we
don't have to worry about money no more.
So I said, good, one less thing.
And that just baffled me at thatexact moment, that moment in time.
It was a beautiful paradigm shift.
'cause I had never ever heard someonesay, you do not have to worry about money.

(06:37):
So I asked my dad, whatis a fruit company?
Like what's he talking about?
I have no idea these words.
And obviously Forrestwas talking about Apple.
They invest into Apple computers.
And my dad started to the best of hisability explaining what Apple is and what
the stock market is and what investing is.
And he told me the a strategythat still works to this day.
It's in fact probably the easiestway to explain the stock market,

(07:01):
buy companies that you use.
Do you understand their products?
You interact with their moneyevery day or every week.
And if you continue to like thosecompanies, you keep buying those
companies, the stock will probably go up.
And so that advice I kindof carried with me forever.
So since the age of six, uh, I beggedmy dad to invest in the stock market

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and he gave me the very, very commonanswers that most people give when
we talk about the stock market.
I don't have enough money.
I don't have enough time.
I'm not smart enough.
Those are the three main ones, right?
A lot of times it's.
I just, I don't have any knowledge.
Like I can't watch thenews for 45 hours a day.
Like, I don't know what you're doing.
I don't know how to do this.

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And my answer is always,well, it's very easy, right?
Wealth is second grade mathrepeated consistently and

Robyn Ivy (07:49):
That's good news.

Jerremy (07:51):
It is.
And so once you, but theword is consistent, right?
It's, it's a repetition.
It's a repetition.
So we're all smart enough because Robin,you got an A in second grade math.
Dave got an A in second grademath when we took, uh, in 1912.
Uh, I got a, I got anA in second grade math.
Um, we all got A's in second grade math.
Yeah.

(08:13):
So

Dave (08:14):
Ro Robin, we're not gonna,

Jerremy (08:17):
me, me and

Dave (08:18):
here.

Robyn Ivy (08:18):
are you gonna do?
Yeah.

Dave (08:20):
a year apart.

Jerremy (08:21):
no, me, me and Dave.
I'd always make fun of Dave.

Robyn Ivy (08:23):
was born in 1912.

Jerremy (08:25):
Yeah.

Dave (08:26):
Ah,

Jerremy (08:27):
boy.
Oh boy.

Dave (08:28):
God.
All right.
I'm going everybody.
Thanks.

Jerremy (08:31):
but Dave's off, Dave's off the podcast.
He's leaving.

Robyn Ivy (08:35):
This is how, this is how you know we're family.

Jerremy (08:37):
Yeah, no, I love Dave.
Um, and so we, we, yeah, Ijust love the stock market.
I asked my, like I begged him andbegged him and begged him and begged
him and he eventually caved andsaid, BR buddy, if you bring me some
money on match at dollar for dollar.
And so I went, I picked, uh,blackberries and sold them door to door

Robyn Ivy (08:54):
Yeah,

Jerremy (08:55):
a dollar a bag and made $1,500 in the summer of 1995.
And my dad borrowed, matched it, uh,borrowed $1,500 from my uncle Billy.
We bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in1995, and ever since then, I have been
immersed and I've read book, every bookI've been to, every class, every webinar.

(09:17):
I've spent seven hours of my life,probably every day since the age of 12,
studying and learning the stock marketand diving into it and, and trading it
every day and interacting with it everyday, and helping people from all over
the world understand it and interact withit, and then grow their wealth from it.

Robyn Ivy (09:35):
I think it's so fascinating.
So like I just said, I'm 51,so five decades on the planet.
It's so interesting to me howone of us is somehow hardwired
to turn towards something.
With great intensity and curiositythat might be a thing that other people
spend their entire life turning away

Jerremy (09:54):
Mm-hmm.

Robyn Ivy (09:55):
or

Jerremy (09:55):
Mm-hmm.

Robyn Ivy (09:57):
You know?
And when it comes to things like moneyor metaphysics or politics or solving
hard problems that feel beyond our ownagency, we can either really see that as
this great opportunity to learn somethingand to get into that arena with it.
Or it can be totally the opposite.
And I love that.
Now.
I recognize like nobody has the timeto do all of that in every category.

(10:20):
So thanks for being somebodythat does it in that one.
Because if we all just share thoseresources with each other, then like none
of us have to do it at that full throttleunless it's the thing we really wanna do.

Jerremy (10:31):
Yeah, totally.
And to your point, uh,I grew up in a cult.
I grew up as a Jehovah's Witness for

Robyn Ivy (10:38):
Mm-hmm.

Jerremy (10:38):
far, the vast majority of my life.
And I would be terrified to talkto you, you know, 15 years ago,
um, to talk to anyone that's amedium or anyone that works in the
energies of something that's not.
The Bible.
Right.
And it was, uh, to, to your point,like we all have things that we

(10:59):
love and that we focus on, thatwe energetically align with.
And the more that we share thatgift through the world, the
more prosperous we will be.

Robyn Ivy (11:07):
Yeah.
Well, and it's interesting 'cause my dadwas a Methodist minister and there was
something about kind of being born behindwhat I call like that curtain of Oz and
seeing that discrepancy between being a,a human being who's here to preach about
God and but also not be God himself.
And that immediate question of like,huh, well you don't seem to be kind

(11:31):
of living up to the expectationsthat you're preaching about.
As no one could, right?
But at

Jerremy (11:36):
Yeah, of course.

Robyn Ivy (11:37):
I was like, I'm seeing some gap here in this thing.

Jerremy (11:41):
Hmm.

Robyn Ivy (11:41):
and it really opened up a lot of exploration around metaphysical things.
at the deepest part of that, Ireally felt catapulted back into like
Christianity at a very deep placebecause it's all the same thing really.
You know, it's all the samething at the end of the road.
In my

Jerremy (12:00):
Yeah.

Robyn Ivy (12:01):
uh,

Jerremy (12:02):
It,

Robyn Ivy (12:02):
of love that about that.
Whether it's the energy of moneyor the energy of God or whatever
denominational perspective you holdthe holier you get, the truer we get
with the thing, the pure, the energy,it seems like the better it all goes.

Jerremy (12:18):
yes, yes, yes, yes.
Yep.
Yeah, well that's, uh, I'll bringit up Robin, just so that you
have more of the context as well.
And for your listeners.
The whole reason that I feelcompelled and moved and guided and
pushed towards running for presidentis because of all of this, right?

(12:39):
Growing up, Joe's witness,that was a big no-no.
In fact, they keep away from all politics.
So one of their biggest, I, Iguess, core tenets of belief is

Robyn Ivy (12:51):
Hmm.

Jerremy (12:51):
be separate from the world as much as possible and only interact
with it like when you're working.
So it's very, very, very small.
And I would be asked all thetime at 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, what
are you gonna do with your life?
And I would have to make up something.
Because I already knew theanswer like since I was a kid.
Like, why, just like you, oh, you'regonna go play baseball and become a

(13:14):
professional baseball, or a firefighteror a movie star or actress or whatever.
I've always knew that the wholepurpose of my life, the ultimate
goal is to serve at that capacity,to be a leader in that capacity.
And I was always terrified of that.
So as after I, I was terrified ofthe distinction and the separation.

(13:36):
'cause there couldn't be bothin that particular religion.
So once I left the religion and Irealized what a great gift it was for me,
it kept me safe, it kept me protected,it kept me, uh, from doing really,
really dumb things because that's howI learned, I learned through mistakes.
So I was really mistake free.
For a vast portion of my life, and I don'treally have any skeletons in the closet.

(13:58):
I don't really have anythingto be afraid of or ashamed of.
There's nothing, I didn't do anything.
I just played basketball with a bunchof witnesses my whole life, you know?
So I didn't have any, I didn't have anynegatives, uh uh, and I started doing
a lot of the joda spina meditationwork, and that's where I met my higher
self, or the best version of me, orthe most disciplined version of me.

(14:20):
And every time I interact with thatbeingness, that meanness, uh, I've noticed
that that's what I'm supposed to do isat least really make an extremely valiant
effort to live the reason I was created,which is to, again, to serve as the
president of the United States of America.
And I thought, just my funnybelief that every male.

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That was born, had that desire.
And I was like, man, I gottacompete against everybody.
Like this is gonna be hard.
And the more I start talking topeople, the more people I realize
that nobody wants that job.
It's like seven dumb dudes,uh, generally want that.
So that's, that's why I'm here.
That's why we're here.
That's why Dave and I are being puttingin so much time and energy and effort

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into creating something incredible.

Robyn Ivy (15:04):
Well, and it's interesting when you think about serving at scale, like at
whatever your definition of the highestlevel is, kind of the fundamentals and
the foundational things that it's helpfulto really understand whether you are in
full agreement with them or completely notkind of understanding, the, understanding
the energetics of money and the painof money and the joy of money and the

(15:26):
relationality of money or being able todo that in terms of religious experience.
Whether you agree with things that aremore dogmatic or more rigid or you open
up to something far more, uh, unbounded.
I think it sets you up well, especiallyif you're exploring masculine energy
and feminine energy, because the morewe understand about leadership, the

(15:49):
more we're talking about wholeness.
And we're talking about being ableto access these different parts
of our own humanity, which we seehistorically was not the case,

Jerremy (15:57):
Yeah.
Yeah.

Robyn Ivy (15:58):
much hiding who they were in hopes that nobody would
ever find them out, and the levelof pressure of imposter syndrome.
then you play that out at scale inthe Congress and the Senate and like

Jerremy (16:10):
Uh huh

Robyn Ivy (16:10):
who's ever run, who never wants to admit they smoked weed

Jerremy (16:13):
Uhhuh.

Robyn Ivy (16:14):
something stupid or learned by any misstep of any kind, like, do they
really think that we don't know that theyhad to have missed steps somewhere in

Jerremy (16:23):
Yep.

Robyn Ivy (16:24):
learn something?
Or are we meant to think they're justbuffoons having clearly no experience
other than something positive?
You know, the, I think theveil's ready to drop, so,

Jerremy (16:35):
I love that.
Yeah.
That's beautiful.
Yep.
I agree.

Robyn Ivy (16:39):
Yeah, I, I think there's so much, there's so much liberation
in the things that at one pointmaybe feel like they tie us down,
and I think that's, I don't know.
I often think like it was only becauseI grew up as a preacher's kid, that I
gave myself the permission to go allthe way to the edge of the Woo, which
I ironically gave me permission tolike pray a rosary as a Protestant kid.

(16:59):
You know, like, I don't, I, I will hope,I will probably pray this rosary every
day till I die, and who'd have thought?
But if we're not open to this stuff,whether it's the possibility of becoming
president or the possibility of leadinga family in a different capacity or just
leading ourself through the world ortrying to invest in, in something that we
don't understand it, what we're here for.

(17:20):
Right?

Jerremy (17:21):
Yeah, I agree.
Well, let, let's have, I'dlike to ask this question, Rob.
I think it would just be fun,

Robyn Ivy (17:27):
Sure.

Jerremy (17:27):
uh, as it regards to the stock market.
Tell me what your beliefs are aroundit, what fears you may or may not have.
Uh, just in, in regards to investingin stocks and trading in the markets.

Robyn Ivy (17:42):
I tend to, um, go like this and pretend there's
no such thing as any of this.
That's been my relationship to allthings financial and all things
relative to financial at all.
Yeah.
Um.
Yep.
I, I

Jerremy (17:58):
That's fair.

Robyn Ivy (17:58):
nothing to do with it.
It terrifies me, but I've learnedit, it terrifies me from a place
of not trusting myself, right?
Like the, the same, the samefear as an A DHD kid of like,
I'm not gonna figure it out.
I'm gonna have to know more thanI know I'm gonna have to be a
different person to deal with.
It took me a long time of workingthrough a lot of that fear and I think

(18:22):
I still have a long way to go with it.
Um, but I did get smart enough to get afinancial advisor and a bookkeeper and
offload it, but then it left me feelinglike I'm not in relationship with it.
else is in a healthy relationship withit, which is better than no one being in a

Jerremy (18:37):
Sure.

Robyn Ivy (18:38):
it.

Jerremy (18:38):
Yeah.

Robyn Ivy (18:39):
like, progress.
Someone is in relationship with this,but it also gets to be me one day
not hoping they're doing a great job.

Jerremy (18:48):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I agree.
Well, that's, I, I, I appreciate yousharing that with us, and I think
truthfully, that's probably most people's.
Interaction with it, and it's just scary.
Uh, I love your awareness of your like,oh wait, I'm scared of it, because
it's probably gonna be a me thing.
And that really is.
I, I think beau.

Robyn Ivy (19:08):
percent gonna be a me thing.

Jerremy (19:09):
Yeah.
Well, that's beautiful awareness though.

Robyn Ivy (19:12):
more potently.
It's not only gonna be a me thing,it's gonna be a shame thing.

Jerremy (19:15):
Yeah.

Robyn Ivy (19:16):
It's not.
It's like, oh no.
The only thing I'm ever turningmy back on is when it's gonna be a
shame thing that then is gonna alsopotentially be compounded with an
action of consistency thing about athing I don't feel that much self-trust

Jerremy (19:30):
Mm. Love that.

Robyn Ivy (19:32):
Yeah.
Most

Jerremy (19:34):
that.

Robyn Ivy (19:35):
I'm like, let's go Buffalo towards a storm I'm in.

Jerremy (19:38):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Well, I hope to have more in depthconversations with you about it because
I, I believe that there's a lot ofhealing that goes into that journey
because the more we understand thatworld, the more we'll understand about
ourselves, we start removing and workingon and healing that shame a little bit.
Because really a lot of times it's, uh,it'll be linked to the shame of pleasure.
Um, 'cause that's what, that's one of thethings that money brings into our lives.

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It brings a lot of pleasure.
Uh, it doesn't have to,

Robyn Ivy (20:04):
Oh

Jerremy (20:04):
it can bring a,

Robyn Ivy (20:05):
me that he, um, he has to spend like, that you, that he has to send, spend
a certain amount of money just for fun.

Jerremy (20:13):
yeah.

Robyn Ivy (20:13):
Like one of your rules.

Jerremy (20:15):
Yeah.
Well, I mean, WW whenpeople say money that

Robyn Ivy (20:18):
that part, by the way.

Jerremy (20:20):
No.
Yeah.

Robyn Ivy (20:21):
There's no evidence so far to suggest that I am not good
at spending it for fun, actually.

Jerremy (20:27):
Yes.
Yes.
Well, uh, and, and those, thoseare both interesting words, right.
Spending and fun.
Um.
Because, yeah, I, I, fun canbe pleasurable, but giving
money away can be pleasurable.
Um, building, building churches,building schools, building hospitals,
figuring out ways to circulate it.
Um, spit out ways to not spendit, but just earn more of it.

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'cause if you give more,you're gonna get more.
That's the other beautiful law, right?
Scriptural law in all text is like, you'regonna be provided for the more you give
and the more you provide for others.
And that's just also abeautiful recognition.
So I think that, uh, it'sjust a beautifully interwoven
aspect of our lives.
'cause everyone needs money, right?
It's not as important asoxygen, but it's right up there.

(21:12):
It is really, really close,uh, oxygen and currency.
And when you start playing in both ofthose worlds, you will start opening
yourself up for a lot of opportunity,for healing, for expansion, for growth.
Because yes, to, to make a lot of moneyand to keep a lot of money, we have to
become really, really unique containers.

(21:32):
We have to be a container ofsomeone that can hold all other
things as well in our life.
Uh, not only relationships,but also, um, a assets, right?
Other, other assets.
Not necessarily onlyphysical assets, right?
Intangible assets, things thatwe really step out into the world
and we're ready to be a big, boldbeacon and say, Hey, look at me.

(21:55):
'cause again, that's what moneydoes, is it amplifies, it amplifies
everything that it touches.

Robyn Ivy (21:59):
Totally.

Jerremy (22:00):
Yeah.
Heck yeah.

Robyn Ivy (22:01):
a lot of folks in the financial world talk about how money loves speed,

Jerremy (22:06):
Mm-hmm.

Robyn Ivy (22:06):
something about money and, and quickness and I, I, my
coaching practice, when peopleare bumping up against self-trust.
That tends to be where theythen wanna slow down the speed.
'cause they're like, I don't feel like Ican move quick at a place of not trust.
And I was like, well then that'sgonna be a real setup when

(22:27):
it comes to money for people.
If money loves speed, but not trustingourselves creates a, uh, this, this
natural inclination to slow downor stop altogether, then we're also
financially then energetically puttingourselves in a bit of a pickle.

Jerremy (22:42):
Yeah, I love that.
So true.
Yes, correct.
Speed is really what, what speedmeans, is velocity, and then velocity
generally also means volatility.
And so you've heard thatphrase before, right?
The stock market, that's a tonsof volatility and people are
like, oh, it's too volatile.
Don't put me in it.
Volatility is incredible.

(23:03):
If you know where you're going.
Most people don't knowwhere they're going.
They don't have the clarity, they don'thave the intention to sit down and
go, okay, this is where I wanna go.
You live in Rhode Island, so ifyou're gonna come out here to
Las Vegas and visit me, you'reprobably gonna be in an airplane
that's volatile because it's fast.
But you're gonna choosethat overriding a bicycle.
And it's because one is extremelyefficient and the other one's not.

(23:25):
I think the, the speed of money is alsocharacterized by the speed of ideas, the
speed of intention, the speed of creation.
I do secretly judge people when Itake them out to a dinner or, or a
lunch on how fast they can order food.
You know, how, how long they taketo just interact with the world,
how long they take to interactwith the decisions to move.

(23:46):
Because having speed of clarity andspeed of intention and speed of thought
does mean that you are, and you have thecapacity to create a lot more income,
money, current to or opportunity.

Robyn Ivy (23:58):
is there any cost to that that you've noticed?

Jerremy (24:02):
Yes, absolutely.
Because most people willnever make the decision.
They think they will and then theyjust go, uh, and then they don't.
Because I, I've heard

Robyn Ivy (24:10):
No, I mean

Jerremy (24:11):
ca

Robyn Ivy (24:11):
fast, like is there to going quickly the opposite.
Like is there any cost to being to, yeah.
Is there any cost to going that quick?

Jerremy (24:21):
uh, I'm sure there is.
Yeah, I'm sure there is.
I think probably the cost would be youget too wrapped up in it and you have
the inability to be, most individualsare extremely good at human doings, but
they're not very good at human beings,so that's probably ultimately the cost is
like they don't know how to turn it off.
And they're always flying.
They're always moving.
They're always perpetually justgoing, and they're never here,

(24:43):
and they're never in the now.

Robyn Ivy (24:45):
Okay.
So how do you manage that as somebodywho's really good with the energy
and speed and velocity of money, butalso is good at the being part I.

Jerremy (24:55):
The best answer I have to that question is I have to schedule it.
And I don't know if that's the right orthe wrong way, but I have to put on, I
have to put on the calendar and I haveto tell my brain and my body and my mind
this, Hey, this is where we're goingthis weekend or this day or these hours.
You're going to sit down and do X, Y,z. I go to seminars very, very often.

(25:17):
We'll ask people, Hey, who here, raiseyour hand if you ever, if you have
ever worked for 12 hours straight?
And everyone's like, yeah, right?
They like badge of on.
They're like, I've done that.
And they get all excited.
And then I ask, who here has everprayed for 12 hours straight?
And all the hands go down andit's just this, it's just really
this idea of, Hey man, you know,what are you working so hard for?

(25:43):
Why?
Why are you spending allthis time and energy?
Like if you just get closer to.
Whatever ultimate being that youbelieve in, you probably will be able
to close the gap between time and space.
And if you close that gap betweentime and space, it's probably
gonna happen for you faster.
That's one of the thingsI love about Joe Dispenza.
When he says, uh, the, the unknown, likethe closer you get to the unknown, the

(26:05):
absolute unknown, the, the nothingness.
When you and that nothingness becomeone, everything in your life will
manifest into reality instantly.
For me, that nothingness iseverythingness, which is, uh, god or the
universe or love or ultimate perfection.
And I think that's just such anawesome, awesome realization where
the closer you get to that, the fasterthings will happen for you and I

(26:28):
wanna get there as much as possible.
So I think that's a, uh,a fun place to play in.

Robyn Ivy (26:34):
I heard these, um, these two women, and I, I forget their
names, but I, I, if I'm, if I remembercorrectly, they work for Harvard and
they're organizational, psychologists,and they were talking about how, um.
That in organizations that people,uh, they say slow it down to speed
it up, that that was like a bigbusiness ideology for a while.

(26:56):
Like slow it down to speed it up.
And they said, no, that's not true.
Speed it up to speed it up.
But they said the reason that peopledon't speed it up in organizations
is similar to the reason we don'tspeed it up in our own lives.
Because if we don't trust the foundationsof our systems, of our support networks,
of what we have in place, she was usingthe analogy of like a dock pillar where

(27:17):
like, you're not gonna go running outon the pilings if you don't trust that
they're in place, but if you know they'rein place, you could like haul ass down the
piling no problem, but without believingthat they're, they're trustworthy,
you're gonna take it much slower.
And I was like, that's such an interestingthing, especially if we're talking about
the relationality of the money or ourown trust that like we can go fast.

(27:40):
Because we've got the systems in placebecause we trust our financial person
or we trust our knowledge of the stockmarket, or we trust our ability to
reassure ourselves if we make a badmove that day and lose money like that,

Jerremy (27:51):
Yeah.

Robyn Ivy (27:52):
just abandon ourselves.
Right.
I thought that

Jerremy (27:54):
Yeah,

Robyn Ivy (27:54):
an interesting parallel.

Jerremy (27:56):
yeah.
I love that.
I do.

Robyn Ivy (27:58):
How do you set yourself up for the kind of, uh, balance of rigidity
and flexibility that you need to thrive?

Jerremy (28:08):
Well, I think that also comes down to, for me, again,
again, just being extremely clear.
I think the person that's most clearand the most intentional will win the
fastest or the most, or the most often.
Perfect example.
If someone says, Hey, I want moremoney all, all the time, like
that's their perpetual daily mantra.
I would love to have more money.

(28:29):
I would love to have more moneyIf you get a dollar that is more.
And, but they're notsatisfied with a dollar.
So now they're upset.
And then they get this anger of notbeing grateful or not being in gratitude.
And the way I structure rigidity andalso flexibility is one of my mantras,

(28:51):
I think, is follow my rules like anengineer, and know when to break them.
Like an artist, there's always these ebbsand flows, right where you have to be,
you don't wanna be the most dangerous.
Uh.
Gardener in a war, you wanna be the mostdangerous warrior in a garden like it.
There needs to be this balance.

(29:13):
I mean, that's what it all always is.
There has to be some level of equilibrium.
Uh, another incredible, for me, justparallel that really shifts in my
life in a huge way, just if not thatlong ago, three or four years ago.
I heard the story differentlyfor the very first time.
The story about the two wolves.
The, there's this Chinese father, or,you know, speaking to his younger son

(29:35):
and his younger son's asking aboutlife and death and good and bad.
And the dad says that every man, everyperson has two wolves inside of them.
The light wolf and the dark wolf.
And the dark wolf is there fordestruction and terror and creating.

(29:57):
Anger and making thingshappen through force.
And then the light wolf is happyand joyful and prosperous, and
they're always battling each other.
These two wolves are always fightingeach other, and the young boy looks
at his dad and says, which wolf wins?
And the dad says, whicheverwolf you feed the most.
Now, I had never heardthe word the most before.

Robyn Ivy (30:19):
Hmm.

Jerremy (30:20):
I always heard whatever wolf you feed, but in reality,
we all have those two wolves.
We all have to feed them.
And so I do a lot of work withmen because men, the brokenness
of any country is in directproportion to the brokenness of men.
And if men do not have this way tointernally heal, to understand and

(30:41):
to adopt, it's never women who havecreated this, oh, I'm gonna go start a
giant war for more land and more power.
Right?

Robyn Ivy (30:51):
We know it's not us.

Jerremy (30:53):
No.
Yeah, yeah.
It's, it is not women.
Right.
Like it's that internal.

Robyn Ivy (30:58):
sure that wouldn't be how we do that.

Jerremy (31:02):
We would figure out another way.

Robyn Ivy (31:04):
Yeah.
We're pretty sure we couldfigure out another path to

Jerremy (31:08):
Right.

Robyn Ivy (31:09):
and resolution.

Jerremy (31:10):
But, but really that, that's a gorgeous recognition that I
think so many people just skip over.
It's like, listen, it's not,it's the dudes like they're the
ones that are ruining everything.
If there's something that needsto be ruined, leave it up to a
really angry, egotistical guy andhe'll figure out a way to do that.
Like, that's the big challenge.
And

Robyn Ivy (31:29):
of two, like now grown men, I also think, boy, without
the men, like men get a bad rap.
And I'm always like, I always jokethat I'd be the first one Vijo, like
voted off Vagina island because Ireally stand for men and all that.

Jerremy (31:43):
yeah, of course.

Robyn Ivy (31:45):
that presence, without that, it would, we would just all be different.
So

Jerremy (31:49):
That's the balance, right?
That

Robyn Ivy (31:51):
important parts of this.

Jerremy (31:53):
agreed.
Agreed.
And that's the balance.
The balance is the recognitionthat we have to be in both places.
Uh, we have to know how to do both things.
We have to know how tolive in the both worlds.
Men need to learn how to healdeeply and to to pull their ego
out and to pull it into light.
And also be, uh, a, a protector.
A protector of women, a protectorof children, a protector of

(32:15):
themselves, a protector of theirkingdom, the castle, and they have
to be totally okay to become more.
Grace to become more kind.
And I think having the balance andhaving the blend between all of those
things we're talking about, which isreally the energetics of spirituality,
of beingness, of who individuals are.
And you start blending all ofthat and putting it into money,

(32:36):
into investing, into politics.
That is my four corners of like, Ican talk about this stuff all day and
it jazzes me up and it lights me up.
'cause I know that there aresolutions in in this box.

Robyn Ivy (32:48):
Yeah, I mean, I think that I've noticed, uh, with women, a pa the
pattern of like, there's a pattern ofnot feeling safe and not feeling worthy.
And those two things then rippleout into, I mean, that becomes
almost like a filter through whicheverything, like, it's not safe to
put themselves out there in the world.
It's not safe to start the business.
It's not safe to ask forthat amount of money.
then on the guy side, I see a lot of, notenoughness, like it's, I'm not enough yet,

(33:13):
so I can't, I don't feel good enough aboutmyself, so I can't start the thing, do the
thing, be humble or be compassionate oropen, It's such a shame to me because if
we could see ourselves from that position,reassure that in each other, then just
keep going out and doing the thing, ourcontributions and our, what we could
create here altogether, the problems wecan overcome are, it's, it's mind blowing.

Jerremy (33:37):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
What, what problem wouldyou like to overcome?
If you had to pick one that you couldjust solve tomorrow, what would it be?

Robyn Ivy (33:44):
Hunger.
Hunger to me, hunger.
Because if you're hungry, Idon't care what plans you have,
I don't care what, I don't care.
Everything else, ifyou're hungry, it's over.

Jerremy (33:54):
Mm-hmm.

Robyn Ivy (33:54):
not doing anything if you're

Jerremy (33:55):
Mm-hmm.

Robyn Ivy (33:56):
Uh, so I don't, yeah, I just, I can't fathom for me
how it's 20, 25 and five decadeslater people are still hungry.
Like, to me, this was a problemthat should have been solved
by the time I was like 12 yearsold or long before I got here.
So the fact that people are stillhungry, the fact that we could have this
many billionaires and hungry people.

(34:17):
Something is, something isglitchy in the matrix still

Jerremy (34:21):
Y yes.
And not only billionaires.
So we have this manyobese people in the us

Robyn Ivy (34:26):
correct?

Jerremy (34:27):
like so someone's eating a lot of food.

Robyn Ivy (34:29):
have GLP if we have GLP ones and hungry people.
It's astounding.

Jerremy (34:35):
Yes.
Agreed.
Like there, like to, to that aspect.
Like what, how are wegetting at this incorrect?

Robyn Ivy (34:45):
And I also like, I looked around my house a couple months
ago and I thought, wow, this isinteresting that you can be overwhelmed.
I could be overwhelmed by the amount ofstuff I have to the point that I'm like,
I gotta get rid of some of this stuff.
It's so, this is a lot.
And then simultaneously haveany sense of lack in my life.

Jerremy (35:00):
Mm.

Robyn Ivy (35:01):
Like how interesting.

Jerremy (35:03):
Yeah.

Robyn Ivy (35:03):
things can sit there together.

Jerremy (35:05):
Yep.

Robyn Ivy (35:05):
Yeah.

Jerremy (35:06):
I love that.

Robyn Ivy (35:06):
But hunger, to me, it's always hunger.

Jerremy (35:08):
Okay.

Robyn Ivy (35:09):
else, don't know.
If you're hungry and you're cold,don't have somewhere to stay.
But you can always, like, you can,you can find somewhere to stay.
If you can't eat, if you have nothing toeat, you're, what are you figuring out?

Jerremy (35:20):
Mm-hmm.

Robyn Ivy (35:22):
How about you?

Jerremy (35:23):
Love that.
Um.
Well, I think my main, I believe my mainfocus is going to be to radically change
the educational system in the US because

Robyn Ivy (35:38):
system?

Jerremy (35:40):
Come on Robin, let's go.
Be careful.
You're gonna enter my bestfriend status real quick.

Robyn Ivy (35:47):
That's

Jerremy (35:47):
I,

Robyn Ivy (35:48):
yeah.
Get

Jerremy (35:49):
I agree.
It's like,

Robyn Ivy (35:50):
friends.
I can come rummage through your cabinets.
If I need a

Jerremy (35:52):
cool,

Robyn Ivy (35:53):
way, I'm not,

Jerremy (35:53):
cool.

Robyn Ivy (35:54):
in the acquaintance level,

Jerremy (35:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want snacks.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
Uh,

Robyn Ivy (35:59):
get one on the Uber Eats, and we're both grabbing the same, yeah.
Mm-hmm.

Jerremy (36:04):
it.
Love it.
Yeah.
I, I think the, the, oureducational system is killing us.
And it's making us, uh,scared to put kids in school.
It's making our kids less smart.
It is making our generation andour populace fatter and larger
and bigger and more complacentand more docile and less creative.

(36:28):
And it's helping us memorizethings that we never use.
And I believe that if we sit downand we help our children and we
help our teachers, and we help ourstaff become extremely creative
thinkers, I believe that a lot ofour problems do slowly dissipate.
Just as an example, Imean, you mentioned hunger.

(36:48):
Obviously that is a componentof many, many, many things.
But if you have enough smart peoplein schools, in high schools, middle
schools, colleges, universities sitdown and go, alright, let's creatively
think of these solutions and let'sreally, really figure out how.
This one company, this one product,this one creation can solve that issue.

(37:12):
And we are rewarded as a communityglobally, but also also here in the US for
just extremely creative thinking often.
I think that that's something thatreally does make a huge, massive impact.
And we're not, we're notdoing that in school, right?
Our schools are,

Robyn Ivy (37:30):
think it's very difficult to get rid of everything that
fosters creativity in a system,and then expect the people to

Jerremy (37:36):
mm-hmm.

Robyn Ivy (37:37):
side with their most creative thinking.

Jerremy (37:38):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah,

Robyn Ivy (37:40):
Right.
I am like, well, if we don't supportcreativity anywhere, and if we don't
cr if we don't support, um, feedbackand unique perspective and socra
conversations, opportunity for peopleto have various opinions and debate.
Gosh, gosh.
Debate, did I say debate in

Jerremy (37:59):
Oh, my good.
Uh oh, oh, oh.

Robyn Ivy (38:01):
my no Lord.
Yeah.
What a dangerous concept.

Jerremy (38:05):
Agreed.

Robyn Ivy (38:07):
you know, how are we gonna do anything creatively?

Jerremy (38:10):
Yes.
Yeah, I'm with you.
And so I, I can see it extremelyclearly is we do make huge changes
there where we actually have thatwell, 'cause AI is coming, it's coming.
And if we don't sit down as a nationand go, alright, AI overlords,
'cause those, those are the peoplethat Dave battles with every day.
He battles with the AI overlords.

(38:32):
If we don't, if we don't start gettingready and prepared as a, as a nation
and also a civilization for what iscoming down the pike in 15 to 30 years,
people aren't gonna have, they're,they're not gonna be aware to how to
have jobs, to how to, to how to create.
They're gonna be extremely complacent.
And Wally, the kids show the moviethat is wildly accurate and hopefully

(38:59):
never going to happen, but probablyis a 200 year dystopian from now.
That's gonna start happening if we don'tget extremely creative on making changes.
Now

Robyn Ivy (39:09):
and Idiocracy is sad that we just watched that a couple
weeks ago together in Miami, and Isaid, because I, he's like, have you

Jerremy (39:14):
it's a documentary.

Robyn Ivy (39:16):
no, I, what we said.
I was like, in what universe isthis actually more like how it is?
And then it is.
It just is.
It is so much more like howit is, which is terrifying.

Jerremy (39:27):
Terrifying.
Terrifying.
I mean, Crocs is a publicly traded companynow, and that's what they're all, all
the people wearing Crocs in the wholemovie, and they were doing it as a joke.

Robyn Ivy (39:40):
on Friday night and I turned to my friend and I was like, I don't
know, I, I don't know what drug this is.
They're on, I don't, I cannot identifywhatever substance has run through
this place that we didn't take.
Everybody was at a frequency I had.
I'm like, I don't know.
I know most of them, and I don't knowwhat this is, but people were in some
kind of weird of half Kensington,you know, like they were just kinda

Jerremy (40:04):
Hmm.

Robyn Ivy (40:05):
there.
I'm like, this is not normal, butthis is very much like that movie.

Jerremy (40:09):
Yeah.
Yeah.

Robyn Ivy (40:11):
Yeah.

Jerremy (40:11):
what was your,

Robyn Ivy (40:12):
feel like it's a rally cry for people who are excited
and still wanna make a difference.
Like, how about now

Jerremy (40:17):
yes, agreed.
Dave, what was your, the,

Robyn Ivy (40:20):
the team now.

Jerremy (40:21):
the big one that stood out to you in Idiocracy?
Dave,
was it the pro wrestling president?

Dave (40:28):
I, I, I mean the, like, every piece of that thing is like, really,
really, this was 20 years ago andhere we are living this thing.
So it's
there.
I mean, like, it's, it's,it's bonkers, you know,

Jerremy (40:43):
Yeah.

Dave (40:44):
think that this is actually happening.

Jerremy (40:46):
Yeah.

Robyn Ivy (40:46):
the fact that it was 20 years ago is one thing, but the
fact that it was intended to be themost absurd thing on that would ever
potentially, ever and ever, ever happen

Dave (40:55):
Yeah.

Robyn Ivy (40:55):
it, and it's now more like, not this so alarming.

Jerremy (41:00):
Dave, chances we could get the creator writers on the show.
Just have a conversation with him.

Robyn Ivy (41:05):
Dax Shepherd,

Dave (41:07):
And

Robyn Ivy (41:07):
probably.

Dave (41:08):
Mac, uh, no, it's, um,

Jerremy (41:10):
It is possible.
I think it's possible

Dave (41:12):
It's a mike

Robyn Ivy (41:13):
Oh, Mike Judge.
Got it.
Mm-hmm.

Jerremy (41:15):
do,

Dave (41:15):
I'll, I'll reach out.

Robyn Ivy (41:17):
Get on that, Dave.

Jerremy (41:18):
Get on it, Dave.

Dave (41:19):
more people say yes than not, so Yeah.

Jerremy (41:21):
Yeah,

Robyn Ivy (41:22):
know.

Jerremy (41:23):
that's right.

Robyn Ivy (41:24):
Um, Jerremy, what do, when you look at the landscape of your life
in this financial container, what do,what do people, are people get wrong?
Like, where's the paradigm shift in that?
You know, like if people are, where arethey so close, but getting it all wrong.

Jerremy (41:42):
That is a very beautiful question.
Most individuals, in my opinion, have thisextremely u uh, extremely bad belief about
the co, the combination of time and money.
And so here's what I mean by that.

(42:03):
They feel like there is somuch time they can do it later.
And that is true.
So that that's a truth.
And since there is so much time andyou can do it later, if you start doing
it now, the later becomes amazing andsays you can start whatever you want.

(42:27):
You can start at 67, you canstart at 72, you can start at 84.
The earlier you start though,the better and easier it becomes.
That is the truth.
Most people that I connect with,work with discuss, they go, uh, you
know, one day, one day, one day.
And every time I go through my calendar, Inever see, one day I see a Monday, right?

(42:49):
Monday's on the calendar, somedays not on the calendar, but
some Sunday's on the calendar.
It's like we gotta start doingthis as soon as humanly possible.
'cause you said it, money loves speed.
Quick, fast example.
Tons of people will say.
This is a pretty, pretty open statement.
I'm not blowing your minds here.
Apple's done innovating.
They've created the exact same thing foryears, and that company's gonna slowly die

(43:12):
well for the last two and a half years.
So if you go back to just July, 2023,I'm just gonna pick a really random time
that's, you know, relatively relevant.
July of 2023 on Apple, and until today'sprice over the last two and a half
years, apple's up 47% just in value.
47%. They make $90 million net an hour.

(43:37):
It's a lot of money.
It's a lot of money.
Uh, Google is up 85%since April of this year.

Robyn Ivy (43:46):
Wow.

Jerremy (43:47):
there, there are some companies that we,

Robyn Ivy (43:49):
unbelievable because of the messaging that AI's taking over
and nobody's using Google, right?

Jerremy (43:54):
Mm-hmm.
I know precisely, yeah.
That, that messaging is just wrong.

Robyn Ivy (43:58):
how it appears.
Yeah.
How.

Jerremy (43:59):
It's almost never how it appears.
Yeah.
Um, so like, it, it's just a really,really, really wild and beautiful
belief and awareness process that whenwe start looking at and navigating
the process, like we need to startinvesting into assets now because
you, you do have enough money.
If you have a dollar, you have enoughmoney to start investing into assets.
And if you start now, as in today,buying $1 worth of something and

(44:24):
you can obviously exponentiallyit to however much you need to
or want to, or have ability to.
But, uh, we, we just hired an incrediblewoman to work with myself and my wife
and my family to help us out with ourtime and to give us more leverage.
And she, uh, her name is Nelly.
She's really, really sweet.
And I'm getting her, I mean, she justreally just started working with us like

(44:44):
days ago, and I've already given her aRobinhood account and I'm already teaching
her how to invest into stocks because Iknow her background and her background
is an amazing background, but it's oneof, I need to work really, really hard
for money and I need to spend six hours aweek and order to provide for my family.
And although that is a truth, right?
We can and we should.
And there, that's an a possibility.

(45:05):
What if instead of working 60 hours,we hired her for 40 hours and is paying
her the exact same amount she wasmaking when she was making 60 hours.
And then I'm also gonna teach her howto make more money by investing and
taking some of the capital that wepay her and taking a portion of that.
Obviously we all have bills in life.
You take a portion of that and you put itinto the Googles, the NVIDIAs, the apples,

(45:26):
the Teslas of the world, and guess what?
The value of your, your value, yournet worth is going to increase because
those companies are gonna increasebecause you're betting on America.
And I think that's really what peopledon't understand is when you're buying
assets, you're, you're betting on thelargest, most powerful, most profitable
country that in, in the existence.
And if you think that's gonnago away, that's, that's fine.

(45:47):
You're entitled to that belief.
I'm just telling you thatyou're mathematically wrong.
It's not gonna go away.
It's gonna get bigger.

Robyn Ivy (45:53):
it.
So putting your money somewhere else islike a way to make sure you're right,
which is a terrible idea if winningthat it means you don't have a country.

Jerremy (46:01):
Oh my goodness.
The quote of the date.
Yeah, that's it.
Like, what do you like if you're like, no,I don't wanna do that, so I'm just gonna
put all my money into like this bunkerand guns because the zombies are coming.

Robyn Ivy (46:13):
Okay.

Jerremy (46:14):
Well, so that means you're gonna be fighting zombies in 20 years.
Like, that sucks.
Like, that's not a great world.
Let's, let's, let's preventthat from happening.
Let's prevent, prevent thezombies from attacking.

Robyn Ivy (46:22):
direct it towards everybody's wellbeing.

Jerremy (46:25):
Yeah.
There you go.

Robyn Ivy (46:27):
Yeah.
all right, so three things that cameup when you were saying that is I
could feel my own like, oh, Lord,well, how am I gonna learn everything?
I would have to learn about this,because this feels like, I don't
know what it's taken to learnabout parenting 24 years deep.
My friend is a lot, and I'm like,

Jerremy (46:44):
Yeah.

Robyn Ivy (46:44):
Is it, do I have to that my inner Sisyphus is like, I'm gonna have
to grab another boulder and hit the road.
So how can you pacify that fear in me in a

Jerremy (46:54):
yeah.

Robyn Ivy (46:55):
I am?

Jerremy (46:57):
The, the same way my dad did.
Where it is as easy as you want it tobe, that's, that's what investing is.
Um, you don't have to learneverything to know something.
You kinda like anything in life.
I asked you, how can I connect withmy dad who's no longer with us?
There's probably a easier way, aquicker way that you could guide me

(47:19):
into, and then there's a probablya more in depth way where if I
needed to go all the way into it.
So that's, that's with Juujitsu.
All right.
I'm a practitioner, juujitsu.
I love doing it.
It's an incredible martial art.
Uh, I'm nowhere close to good.
Yeah.
I'm nowhere close to good.
I'm terrible.
I'm a 16 year whitebelt, but I, I love it.
It's awesome.

(47:39):
It's really fun.
And just like there's levels, I mean,there's learning, chess, picket,
pick anything in life, pickleball,tennis, football, basketball, soccer.
You can become an incredibly,incredibly proficient at it
and become a professional, likean immaculate professional.
Or you can become someone who's aware and.

Robyn Ivy (47:58):
But the difference is that with money, if you get it wrong,
people have a whole lot of ugh,about getting that wrong in a way.
You don't care if you get the armbar wrong in Jiujitsu, I think.

Jerremy (48:10):
Yeah, they, they, they can, and I think 'cause wrong is
back to the whole time thing, right.
It's gonna, they'll, they'll beright if there's enough time.
Generally I would say 97%

Robyn Ivy (48:20):
Ah,

Jerremy (48:20):
the time they will be correct over a long enough time horizon.
And so when you're putting too shortof a time horizon, when I first
started trading and doing the stuffin the stock market and day trading,
my family literally lit the same week.
We're like, alright.
So are you a billionaire yet?
Like a bi a, a billionaire?

(48:41):
No, I have started learningfinance a week ago.
Um, and yeah.
Yeah, it's just, it's justthis fascinating asset and it's
just fascinating realization.
I do think that really ultimately for allof us having the ability for it to, to
make things simple, to make it easy, um.
For me to you, Robin wouldbe Yes, baby girl, something.

(49:01):
Go for it.
Yeah, of course.
Um, to make it easy would be investinto companies that you know, that
you use, that you understand, andit could be any, any amount of money
that, that's really the quick answer.
And if you do it repeatedly, it will grow.
So every time you spend, uh, aNetflix account, put the same amount

(49:21):
of money into the Netflix stock.
Anytime you buy an Apple iPhone.

Robyn Ivy (49:25):
a great idea.

Jerremy (49:26):
Yeah.
Uh, buy some Apple stock.
Anytime you pull up Google to search,Google, put some money into Google stock.
Every time you get into it, everytime you make a car payment, like
most people make a car payment towhoever a finance company, Ford,
gm, Tesla, somebody, Honda Toyota.
Put a little bit of money into that stock.

Robyn Ivy (49:43):
Hmm.

Jerremy (49:44):
If you use the realization that we can all be owners rather than
just consumers, your money will grow.
So that's a very, very powerful statement,but that's a statement of 100% accuracy.
You're betting on America, America'sgonna win by the companies that you
use, interact with on a daily basis,and your money will grow over time.

Robyn Ivy (50:05):
I love that idea, and I really appreciate you framing that in
a way that's very pedestrian relatable.

Jerremy (50:10):
Yeah, sure.

Robyn Ivy (50:11):
makes sense.
It makes sense why we would do that.
I can hear the kind of, um, flags ofsocial responsibility of where do I
wanna, do I wanna be investing in that?
And at the same time, I think,well, if you're using them, then
you might wanna be checking inwith yourself about that anyway.
Like, if you don't want to beinvesting in Apple, then why
do you have an Apple iPhone?

Jerremy (50:29):
Come on, champion.

Robyn Ivy (50:30):
want to be

Jerremy (50:31):
Oh,

Robyn Ivy (50:31):
in

Jerremy (50:31):
oh.

Robyn Ivy (50:32):
then maybe you don't want to put gas in your car.
Like I, you know, you'reaccountable to your money.
You know, you're accountableto your decisions.
Like, this is life folks.

Jerremy (50:43):
Yes, yes.
And yes.
Drink Starbucks or someone else.
It's up to you.
I mean, you're all making decisions.
We're all making choices.
And exactly what you said, we makethe social determination and what's
responsible and what is valuable for us.
As an example, I do not personallyinvest into oil companies.

Robyn Ivy (51:07):
Mm-hmm.

Jerremy (51:08):
Why?
I, I just think it's dirty.
That's all.
That's it.
I just, it is physically not clean.
So if there's someone comes into myhouse and spills a bunch of oil on
the floor, I'm gonna notice it, right?
That's all.
I just don't think it'ssuper, super clean.
So I also do invest in, uh,renewable energy systems, right?
So I have large investments intosolar, into solar companies,

(51:30):
into solar technology, because.
To me in my, I have noclue how Solar Works.
Couldn't explain it.
No idea.
I don't know how mycell phone works really.
Like I just click a buttonand it things happen.
I, how are we not all using the sun?
I haven't learned that yet.
I No clue.
Can't figure it out.
It's just this free energysource that just hangs out there.

(51:52):
No one has to pay for.
We just boop, put on Bang energy.
It is kind of mind blowingto me that we don't do that.
Uh, and, and it's not because oil isgonna run out and there's a, there's a
finite supply and there's only a littlebit, and that I don't even come from
it from that perspective, I come fromthe perspective of there's people that
have to work really, really, reallyhard and tirelessly to do all of those
things that need to be done for oil.

(52:13):
Where you have this ginormous thing.

Robyn Ivy (52:16):
ways.

Jerremy (52:17):
Yeah.
Hello.
Like, and you could just createsolar energy for everyone.
Go, you, you, we, Robin, we can goto the corner of, of Utah or Nevada.
And, and take out the wholecorner of the state and, you know,
500,000 acres in solar field andall of America's powered by solar.
That's all it would take.

Robyn Ivy (52:38):
I

Jerremy (52:39):
I mean, that's a

Robyn Ivy (52:39):
you see the level of innovation that they have, but it's, again, it kind
of goes right back to the willingnessto think creatively, to problem solve
with a way that keeps everybody, um.
You know, it's not a communist idea toconsider everybody's wellbeing when your
amount of land is finite, but it's, youknow, it's easy to prepare it that way
here, but it's a matter of understandingThe resources are limited and

Jerremy (53:02):
Yeah.

Robyn Ivy (53:02):
need is different.
You know, like great.
Use 'em as parking lot cover.
Why not

Jerremy (53:08):
Yes.

Robyn Ivy (53:08):
wants their car to be cool anyway.

Jerremy (53:11):
Agreed.
Yep.
Precisely.
And I think that those are just, youknow, anyway, like that's things for me
to understand and be, be aware of is ithas nothing to do with certain beliefs.
It has everything to do with,I want things to be easy,
fast, efficient, simple.
And the faster we get there as a societyand the more we think about it and the
more we debate and have open discussionswhere I can just simply disagree with

(53:34):
you, like me and Dave don't agree oneverything, although we agree on a lot
of things, um, we can have a beautiful,very easy commonality where it's like,
oh, cool, man, I think you're wrong.
And you think I'm wrong.
And high five, dude, it's love you.
You're awesome.
But that's like playing poker orplaying chess or playing a sport.
There will be a loser.

(53:54):
It's okay.
It's not, doesn't meanthat you're a bad person.
It means that you played a gameover a period of time and someone
lost because of the result wasyou lost and someone else won.
Like, that is all right.
It's okay for that to happen.

Robyn Ivy (54:08):
Yeah.
I really value multiple perspectives.
I spent like 30 years as a commercialphotographer, and the entire career is
essentially wrapped around the idea thatthere is no one way to look at anything.
And in fact, if you're only lookingat it one way, you're really
missing 99% of other possibilitiesof how to see something.
it's true about ourselves.
It's true about like what wethink is possible with our money.

(54:30):
Like if you are also in your fifties,like I learned when I inherited
some money a handful of years ago,it's like you can start at any time.
Like you, your own thinkingabout money or your ability to
invest is the only limitation.
Because if you tell yourself that,you're gonna have to pick up the
Boulder and start going, that'salso just a thought you're having.
It's not necessarily how it has to be.
That's just one thought you choseto have about what it would be like

(54:53):
to start getting healthy with money.
But that

Jerremy (54:56):
Mm.

Robyn Ivy (54:56):
to change as like, I'm gonna not have ice cream
at 10 o'clock in the morning.
Right.
It's

Jerremy (55:01):
Or at night.

Robyn Ivy (55:04):
Yeah.
Or whenever.
Yeah.
Or you

Jerremy (55:05):
Yeah.

Robyn Ivy (55:06):
however.

Jerremy (55:07):
Exactly.

Robyn Ivy (55:08):
knowing that we're really like a few thoughts away
from it not being a problem.
I,

Jerremy (55:12):
Yeah.
Precisely.
I, I'm, I'm gonna openly share thiswith all of your listeners too.
The, the week of like, Christmasweek, I'm, I'm, I just eat cookies
and sugar and just get fat and justdo nothing for, for a long time.
I like it.
I enjoy it.
But again, to the point of, I think itshould be absolutely okay where we all
can just sit down and just relax andhave a good time and, and do our thing.

(55:34):
But that's balance.
That's the, you can schedule it.
That's the creation ahead of time.
That's the thought process ahead of time.
That's what all these conversations arealmost always gonna keep coming back to
is clarity of time, clarity of purpose,clarity of intentionality, knowing how
to sit down, think and grow rich, right?
The book is not called WorkHarder to Make More Money.
It's called Think and Grow Rich.

(55:55):
And so we have to be ableto use our thoughts and our
thoughts can become things.
And if thoughts become things,then our words create our world.
And that's why I think it'scalled Universe, right?
You are the verses that we speak out loud.
So if you start speaking toyourself, I do love money.
Money is incredible.
What an amazing tool that moneyis for myself and for my family.
I want to interact with it and grow it andexpand it because it's so awesome and it's

(56:19):
incredible everything that it does for me.
You start speaking like that andusing those words often daily,
guess what's gonna happen?
You're gonna start having abetter relationship with money
and your wealth is going to grow.

Robyn Ivy (56:32):
And noticing, I mean, no matter what your circumstances are right now,
noticing the abundance of blessings.
And I don't mean that in some kindof like hashtag blessed silliness.
I mean, truly looking around on a coldday and recognizing like, you are lucky
enough to have a warm place to be.
You do have someone to call.
There is something to eat in the fridge.
There is, you know, we're soresourced in ways that we just

(56:55):
don't say thank you enough.
You know, if, if any of thiswere to go, we'd care about it.
So in the moment that we haveit, it's really a practice.
I think it's a devotional practiceto just say, I'm gonna be as
consistent with my acknowledgementof this as I am of the lack of it.

Jerremy (57:12):
Mm.

Robyn Ivy (57:12):
know, you spent all this time being aware of what's not here.
What about the practice of like,thank you for what is here.

Jerremy (57:18):
Mm-hmm.

Robyn Ivy (57:18):
you for what is here.

Jerremy (57:20):
Yes.
Well, you appreciate appreciatesas Oprah Winfrey said.
So you, you, you don't, youdon't pray or ask or hope from
a place of want of I have less.
Right?
It's not from a place of lack.
It's from a place of love.
Thank you for what I have.
Uh, I would love more.
It's a powerful statement.

(57:41):
Like, I love what I have.
It's incredible.
I want more.
And it doesn't have to be for you.
You can have more.
I want more from my cell phone.

Robyn Ivy (57:48):
resourced

Jerremy (57:50):
Mm-hmm.

Robyn Ivy (57:50):
we feel, the, the easier it is to give it away.
You know,

Jerremy (57:53):
Let's go.

Robyn Ivy (57:53):
on what we don't have, we're not gonna be giving that much.

Jerremy (57:56):
Yes.
Yes.
And that's, I love those conversationsbecause I do get a little slack sometimes
when I get on stage and I say, you'reselfish if you do not make enough money.
Because who are you really,truly, ultimately providing for?
If you make $40,000 a yearand hey, no hate on it.
I've, I was there for along time in my life, right?

(58:17):
The first 20 years of mylife, 19 years of my life,
guess who I was helping?
No one.
I, I mean, maybe I would tip awaitress 15%, 10%, but probably not.
I would find ways to kind of skirtaround tips, and I would do things
that I, I didn't have that muchmoney, so I couldn't circulate it.

(58:37):
I didn't ever go to

Robyn Ivy (58:38):
Hmm.

Jerremy (58:39):
charity galas.
Right.
I never donated money everto anyone for any reason.
I didn't have any, so it's okay to go.
I love what I have.
I love my $48,000 a year.
This is amazing.
Thank you.
God.
Give me more.
I know, I know there's some available,I know there's more available.
Let me figure out how.
Gimme the insight, gimme the wisdom,gimme the knowledge, the path,
the opportunities, the blessings.

(59:00):
Give me more because Iknow more is available.

Robyn Ivy (59:03):
I love it.

Jerremy (59:05):
Yeah.

Robyn Ivy (59:06):
because otherwise what are we doing?

Jerremy (59:08):
Mm-hmm.

Robyn Ivy (59:09):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cool.
Jerremy, where can people findout more about you and learn more
about you and connect with you?

Jerremy (59:17):
I have an awesome social media team.
Um, if anybody connects withme, they could reach out.
Jerremy Newsome on all platforms.
My name is built with two Rs,so my dad's name was Jerry
and stands for Jerry and me.
Uh, Jerremy and for my podcast solvingAmerica's Problems Anywhere that you

(59:37):
listen to podcasts and on all the socials,I would love for people to reach out and
connect with me on, on that podcast so wecan continue grow, growing the platform,
helping people see, know, and understandhow we can all be a part of the solution.
How education is going to be the rootfix for almost everything that we are
struggling over, and that we worry over.
Because the more we educate, the morewe are aware, the more we are aware,

(01:00:02):
the more we can have a an extreme clearpath on where to go to how to fix it.
And we love having guests on the show.
It was an absolute honor and privilegeto meet you, and I am quite confident
that we'll see each other when I popup to Rhode Island in a month from now.

Robyn Ivy (01:00:17):
Yeah, I am looking forward to it and I really appreciate the chance
to guest, host on here and hang outwith you guys and share the message.
I think it's a really beautifulopportunity to speak into wholeness
because it's not, uh, it's no differentif it's money or if it's your faith,
or it's your relationship or yourmarriage or the way you parent, or
the way you wanna serve our community.

(01:00:38):
If we're not all in this together, thenwe're really not gonna make this happen.

Jerremy (01:00:43):
That's right.

Robyn Ivy (01:00:45):
Hmm.
Thank you for this.

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