What 3 Episodes on School Shootings Actually Taught Us (Full)

Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley just finished their first deep dive—three raw episodes on school shootings—and they’re changed. No spin, no named fixes. Just the gut punches that stuck: sedentary kids, garbage food, over-medication, crushed teachers, zero real community, and money vanishing into bureaucracy. This wrap-up is Jerremy and Dave stripping it down to what actually matters and why the simple human stuff beats fortress schools every time. If you only catch one episode from the series, make it this one.

Timestamps:

• (00:00) What We Learned – full school-shooting series recap
• (00:59) Cold open and why this hits different
• (01:37) The big-picture reflection nobody wants to say out loud
• (03:25) Tech fixes that actually work right now
• (08:12) Human-centric safety over metal detectors
• (09:29) Teachers and parents tell the unfiltered truth
• (22:14) Where the money really goes (and doesn’t)
• (36:49) The dead-simple fix: enriched environments
• (37:42) Teachers breaking down from impossible conditions
• (39:36) Tech in schools – blessing and curse
• (43:09) Why the best teachers still show up every day
• (44:31) Lori’s story – from tragedy to relentless advocacy
• (46:53) Rebuilding community as the real firewall
• (57:18) Education as the root of everything broken in America
• (01:05:06) Next fights coming and final punch in the gut

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Episode Transcript

Michael (00:00):
Day five and we’re not slowing down — whole episode, straight through.

(00:04):
Here you go.

Alex (00:05):
Solving America’s Problems – the wrap-up episode nobody saw coming.
[short pause]
[slow, dead-serious] Jerremy and Davejust spent weeks dissecting school
shootings with security experts,frontline teachers, and a mom who
turned Parkland into Alyssa’s Law.
[quiet intensity] They went inthinking tech, threat assessments,
maybe some panic buttons would fix it.

(00:28):
[voice drops] They came out realizingthe entire system is quietly
manufacturing the exact kids mostlikely to snap – garbage food, zero
movement, over-medicated, buried inpaperwork, and zero real community.
[sharp] The money’s there, thebudget’s massive, yet teachers are
drowning and kids are simmering.
[low, almost whispering] What actuallybroke in the nineties that turned this

(00:50):
into an American epidemic, and why isalmost nobody talking about the real root?
Jerremy and Dave lay it bare.

Jerremy Newsome (00:59):
Ladies and gentlemen, solving America's
problems is already blowing up.
Tons of you are reaching out, asking,making statements, getting involved in the
comments, telling us what's going right,what's going wrong, and that Is precisely
what we want because over the next fewyears we're going to continue Building a

(01:19):
beautiful framework and building block.
It's not only a reshape and reformeducation, but continue to understand
truly The solutions to America's problems.
America being the greatest countryin the world and therefore giving
us the greatest problems to solve.
And this episode, myself and DaveConley, we are discussing and

(01:42):
going through a reflective periodabout what we've learned from these
episodes about school shootings.
After spending time talking to experts,educators, and advocates, Dave and I
realized we weren't the same peoplewe were when we started the series.

(02:02):
And maybe that's the exact samething for you as well, our listeners.
So today we're hitting pauseto reflect, not just on what we
learned from our guests, but howthese conversations Changed us.

Dave Conley (02:17):
Yeah, we just didn't want to move on to the next topic and be like,
okay, we put that in a box, here we go.
Next topic.
this was school shootingsand school safety.
We didn't want to just leave it behindknowing that we'll come back to this
because it's ongoing and it's big and it'scomplex and it's simple in a lot of ways.
So there a lot of stories here thatI know stuck with me, stuck with you.

(02:37):
let's take a beat and be like,okay, what was this all about?
That's the idea.

Jerremy Newsome (02:43):
Yep.
That's the idea because for our listeners,we just want you to all and understand
the premise and the reason that we cameout with school shootings as really
our main priority is because it'sjust the most egregious thing to me.
And again, as my Presidential campaignbegins to evolve the focus on educational

(03:03):
reform and understanding how massivelyimpactful that is to our nation,
to our country, to our citizens.
Every parent that I talked toknows it's a problem and every
child doesn't like school.
But as we continue to progressand understand these things, we
really have to just obviously talkabout the safety of our schools.

(03:25):
And man, in episode one, it wasreally awesome having Robert and
Alonzo being there to just give ussome guidance about what's going
right in the private sector, right?
Robert brought his techdriven perspective.
Let's talk in cyber security, AI,advanced school safety technologies,

(03:50):
and Alonzo, really being on theground, providing conversations
about real world experiences, thingsthat he's done, sharing practical
strategies from his military andsecurity consulting background.
Just gave us really a big complex,but also beautiful realization that
there are people doing things, howmany times you've heard Dave Oh,

(04:14):
we should do something about this.
Like when people get up in arms aboutwhatever problem is happening, but
this is an example that there arepeople doing something about this
One of my goals is to put a bigspotlight on that, continue to bring
it to the forefront, let people know,see, feel, and understand it so that

(04:35):
we can continue to hopefully maybeeven put on a pedestal and just get
the government more involved as well.
So that we can have this collaboration,this cohesion, bring individuals
together and start really championingthis vision so that there's no more
mass school shootings in the country.

Dave Conley (04:52):
100%.
that we started with Robert and Alonzo.
It started to frame this from, I think,my bias, which is if we just pour money
into threat assessment, which is the humanelement, and that's where Alonzo was, and
if we just pour money into technology, Andthat really evolved for me over the course

(05:15):
of this one because one part that freakedme out was these AI powered camera systems
and these gun detection systems and I'mlike, oh my God, at one point robot dogs
walking around and I'm like, Oh my god,I don't even like going through TSA.
I can't imagine sending kids into.
I said it a few times in these episodesit's the cathedral versus the prison.

(05:41):
And I come back to that.
If we have beautiful places, thenyou're going to act and be beautiful.
if you're in a prison, you're going toact like you've done something wrong.

Jerremy Newsome (05:53):
What Robert was sharing some pretty surprising
examples about the ball.
Remember the rocks like toprevent vehicle attacks?
I was like, that seems soeasy, all schools having
these just boundary locations.
These perimeters.
Where you're placing rocks.
And as he was talking about that, Iwas also thinking, okay inside those

(06:14):
rocks, could you have some type ofEMP radar he mentioned LIDAR detective
system that just can track weapons.
That's all it does

Dave Conley (06:27):
Okay.

Jerremy Newsome (06:28):
being trained or being systematized for that, meaning
it can't pick up anything else, butif there is a weapon nearby and alert
goes Can it be trained for that?
Is there, something that can be placedpotentially, Dave, there's something
placed in every non military gun, right?
Every civilian gun.
That's just maybe a microchip or some typeof device that this system can detect.

(06:54):
Is this what you're thinkingwhen he was talking about that?
Or was it just me?

Dave Conley (06:58):
I think what came up a lot, over the course of this, I did start with
oh, if we just poured money into it, ifwe had the, I don't even, I still don't
know what digital twin actually means,like he used a lot and I just, in my
mind, just dollar signs kept on goingoff and I'm like okay, sure, rocks are.

(07:19):
a cheap solution to preventsomebody from driving into a
school, but is that big of a threat?
I don't know, man.
Sure.
Like it doesn't sound like a bad ideaand I mean what came up in three in
particular was how money is disconnectedfrom the system, how little money actually

(07:39):
gets down to where it needs to go.
And the people who are makingthe decisions are being like,
yes, of course, put metaldetectors in every single school.
I'm like does every school need that?
And now you've got to keepthese systems up to date.
You have to have peoplewho are screening students.
can you imagine getting a thousandkids through a system every single day?

(08:01):
Then you have set up like a TSA system.
And I'm like, ah, I don't know.
Is that the first place westart or the last place?
And it felt like to me thatit was the first place.
I liked more of where Alonzo wascoming from, which had a very
human element of what's the threat?
Where is the actual threat assessment?

Alonzo A (08:21):
If we're looking at the buildings themselves, we should have a
baseline of where these schools are inthe sense of a threat assessment, right?
We've probably talked about or heardabout threat assessments before,
but a basic on a basic level.
We can look at a threat assessmentto see how vulnerable the schools are

(08:45):
and just some things we can do acrossthe board to make the school safer
with, with the caveat that we're notmaking the schools feel like a prison.
some baseline things we should look at,because that's gonna be a factor that
it's okay, we can ramp this up, 1000%.
But what are the low hangingfruit things that we can do to
make things a little bit better?

Dave Conley (09:06):
And that came back in two and three from me is having a very
human centric approach, having a studentcentric approach, having a teacher
centric approach, and really focusing onwhere you need to put gas on something
and where you need to put a break.
It was priority seem overall, likethe big picture of this priority seem
completely mismatched with the actual

Jerremy Newsome (09:29):
and when you're saying two and three, you're meaning
episodes two and three just for thelisteners and to remind them very
quickly, we're going to continue totouch on that in this episode, right?
The episode two is theeducator's perspective.
So we brought three actualeducators in who have worked in
and around schools as teachers.
And then we brought someone In episodethree who actually had the unfortunate

(09:52):
impact of all this happening.
And so we really did ourbest to come full circle.
If you think about it from a,all right, are there people who
are working on actual prevention?
All right, there are.
Cool.
Let's talk about that.
And then the people who are in theschools, and then someone who's
also working to prevent this.
the prevention policy,the prevention piece.

(10:14):
I love the word that you've justused the human perspective, right?
That human centric focus wherethe big unfortunate, hairy, scary
debate that's happening out thereon social media is guns, right?
Arm them to the teethor take every gun away.
No one should have a gun.

(10:35):
Me and you both know that'snever going to create a solution.
When you are focusing on an amendment,when you're focusing on someone's belief
structure, that particular topic, isn'twhat's going to solve this problem.
And most people, the firsttime I mentioned this

(10:55):
podcast and I talk about it.
They actually generally do bring up gunviolence and again to my point It's like
I don't believe that's going to be thesolution to an issue because it's too
divisive There's too much you make onechoice in one direction Someone's gonna
a large swath of people are gonna getvery angry at you, but there has to be

(11:18):
To your perspective, if we begin to makethese shifts in schools, if we begin
to make these shifts where we reallyunderstand extremely well the profile
of a child or teenager or young adultwho actually commits this heinous crime,
and then we begin to work on reverseengineering it, saying what caused that,

(11:41):
at what time, Of the century did thatbegin to happen begin to build up begin
to scale up really get some Professionalspecialists and I know we're working on
this but get extreme details on who why?
reverse engineer so that in our schoolsThe individuals who are bullied, the

(12:03):
individuals who have mental health,the individuals who do not feel like
they're being heard or listened to,or the individuals who also feel
like they're just not being seen.
How can we create a culture where somuch more shift is happening towards
Conversations in school, openness,gathering more prayer circles, more

(12:29):
conversation circles, more discussioncircles where we are allowed and open to
have conversations that flow conversationsthat spark interest conversations that
allow child to know each other, tofeel each other, to understand who each
other is from a humanistic standpoint,so that way that they're no longer

(12:50):
essentially these frustrated adolescenthormone driven on on loved and uncared
for from a community standpoint, right?
These children no longer feellike they are by themselves.
There's a community.
There's a group of individuals.
There's a group of schools.
There's a group of teachers.
There's a group of Parents that areall just coming together to champion

(13:13):
them and champion that vision.
This is a, to your point, a humanisticstandpoint that we can really
gather together and start making theimpact before it even begins, right?
Starting at the root of the issue, whichis that internal fear and frustration
that at some point explodes into violence.

Dave Conley (13:31):
Yeah.
I've been trying to fit it inmy head as to all the different
aspects that we looked at.
And I think of it this way, there'sa cause component, like there's
a reason that this is happening.
And there's a reason whyit keeps on going up.
And I think we've touched on a lotof those places, particularly when
we talked to number two, and thenthere's this world of prevention.

(13:54):
And identification,prevention and identification.
It's okay, we have the monitors, wehave the technology, we have the threat
assessment, and in a sense, in my mind,the bombs already gone off, like we've
already primed something and we'rebuilding all of these systems around it,
what I learned throughout this is thatit's not necessarily a quick solution.

(14:14):
And then there's this protectionelement of, okay, don't arm the
teachers, do arm the teachers, have thefortresses, there's this world of wow.
I think with this very first episode,I'm struggling with what's going on?
Can we even define this issue?
There was a point where it came upthat a school shooting isn't a school

(14:35):
shooting isn't a school shooting,and we talk about it as one thing.
What gets headlines are the mass shootingswhere, one student really just goes,
crazy and just shoots, something up.
And yet school shootingshappen every single week.
And when talking about threatassessment, these are happening

(14:55):
from young boys, right?
Like it's, we know that young boysare the ones that are doing this.
And we know that it's differentbetween urban and suburban and rural.
We know there's this first episode broughtit out of Oh, the people who are making
the decisions are Seem to be treatingit as a simple fix just add magic And

(15:18):
yet it's more complicated than that.
Don't what do you think?

Jerremy Newsome (15:22):
Yep.
And what was nice is at one point whenwe were talking about the community
integration that I was rambling onabout there just a few moments ago when
you talk about building relationshipsand creating communication systems
that connect everyone involved.
And then for our listeners to fastforward for a second to episode three
on school shootings where we were havinga chat with the wonderful Lori and she

(15:45):
was discussing Alyssa's law, right?
That formation of a really simple, veryeasy to implement, let's call it free

Dave Conley (15:59):
right?

Jerremy Newsome (16:00):
of dollars a month.
Type of thing where it's okay, thatgot me excited because then you have
boots on the ground individuals.
And then someone who has already createdsomething, a communication system, a
pulse system that does work and beingable to combine these two rapidly where

(16:21):
you and I have also the capacity and thecapability to connect Robert and Alonzo
and Lori and saying, all right, sweet.
Hey, here is.
Here's Alyssa's Law.
Here's this application that iscurrently up and running that
is in almost a dozen states.
And blend all of this together and going,alright, we can start chipping away.
Here is definitely one thing to, toyour point, and Alonzo said this very

(16:45):
well, if and when this does happenagain in the near future, we can at
least prevent anyone from being injured.
So if a school shooting happens.
In the future and no one gets injuredor impacted other than the shooter.
That is a step in the right direction.
There's a step in the rightdirection from a standpoint,

(17:06):
especially of the mass shootingswhere numerous people get injured.
If it's a gang violence situation,it's a one V one individual.
That's obviously always gonna be a littlebit harder to protect from a inside
the school situation, but ultimately.
I do really get excited, Dave,about the fact that we have people

(17:27):
that have implemented something.
We have people who are working onimplementing things and who are planning,
and these things can start gettingmarried and getting brought together.
And those ripple effects can absolutelycreate massive change quickly.

Dave Conley (17:39):
You're spot on.
It came up in numbertwo all about community.
It came up in number three community.
and like parents would payanything to keep their kids safe.
That's no doubt.
Where do you think thedisconnect is on community?
And I'm just going to throw it outthere There's going to be communities

(18:00):
where they're just struggling to getby and they're just struggling to keep
food on the table and roof overheads.
And so I'm going to guess thatinvolving the community is going to
be harder than a wealthy community.
so where do you think the policies, wheredo you think the practices what do you
think might work in order to engage?

(18:21):
All communities or help communities.

Jerremy Newsome (18:24):
Yeah.
That's what got me excited alsoabout episode two when we brought
the educators in and the teachers incause that also got brought up a lot
as well that just the word community.
But to me a parent who has and hada teenager in school and a child
in middle school, what helped themost was just getting notice, right?

(18:47):
Having a communication with the community.
So crazy example.
This did not happen with the school that Iwas in, but you have all of the teachers,
all of the parents and all of the childrenon a group communication application,
call it a Facebook group, call it aWhatsApp group, call it a discord.

(19:08):
They didn't have that.
What this particular schooldid have, which they were very
good at communication, by theway, very, I truly enjoy them.
Every single week I would get anautomated obviously updated voicemail
phone call ring From the principal.
So every week, it was like, hi, I'm Iforget the principal's name off the top of
my head, but it's hi, I'm XYZ gentlemen.

(19:30):
And this is what we're doing this week.
And it was a recorded messagethat he would send out.
That was amazing.
And they were great with emailsand the teachers would email.
But again, that's like a one on one that'svery less, not a one to many approach.
So imagine if all of the parents,teachers, and children get on this
group, the children, if they're oldenough, obviously, but they get into

(19:53):
this group application, if you're justat the teachers and the parents and
everyone sees what everyone's doingand we get, Planned ahead of time.
Hey, three months from now onThursday from six to eight,
we have a mandatory XYZ.

Dave Conley (20:07):
Yeah.

Jerremy Newsome (20:08):
And they get reminders and they're told
and we just get scheduled.
And so when, again, I know this isa little bit of a challenge when
it comes to planning, but when theschool year starts, all the parents,
it's mandatory that you come in

Dave Conley (20:20):
Yeah.

Jerremy Newsome (20:20):
for an hour, probably later, early in the
morning some time where like youhave a different blocks scheduled.
You have a morning, you have anafternoon, you have an evening.
And this was, again, this was athing that the other school did
that was really great is they had.
pretty flexible meeting times forthe parents and for the teachers.
So you could choose all differenttimes throughout the day because

(20:40):
everyone understands, adults workand they have interesting schedules.
So you have these different schedulesto choose from that you can come in.
But again, the thing that wasn'treally awesome was just a early
planning stage where at the verybeginning of the year, all right, cool.
Here's the four thingsthat we're going to do.
Here's the four timesthat we're going to do it.
Here's the four days.
It's very important for you to be here.

(21:01):
That didn't truly happen.
And it was like, all right, cool.
We're having a school cookout andit just made it a little bit more
challenging to move stuff around.
Obviously I was able to do it, buta lot of parents I talked to had
a little bit of a struggle there.

Dave Conley (21:18):
Sure.
We've already slipped intoa little bit of episode two.
Why don't we talk about that in specific?

Jerremy Newsome (21:23):
that's nice.

Dave Conley (21:24):
talking to Eric and Jennifer and Danielle.
All on the front line.
These are the educators.
These are the ones that are working withyour kids right now and Even though I
have a teacher in my immediate familyand I've heard the stories I had no idea.
This was like, this was the biggest.

(21:47):
Oh, wow.
Oh, no.
For me.
Just the challenges of managing thephysical and mental well being of
both the students and the teachers.
And that so little time, so little money.
That is the biggest budget itemin most states is education.
And as far as I can tell, very littleof it is actually getting to the

(22:10):
students and getting to the teachers.
But yeah, what do you think?

Jerremy Newsome (22:15):
that is, and in future episodes for our listeners, we have some
amazing economists, Business owners realestate professionals come in and just
talk about budgeting and money and thebudget Challenges of this country the
debt that we're facing but to that point.
Oh my gosh, dude, if that is nota glaring Oversight that I think

(22:42):
most parents slash most adults.
Yes We feel like we're getting taxedout of the face all the time Already.
So there's that because you got to pay,you got to pay taxes on everything.
You make money, got to pay taxes on it.
You buy something, yougot to pay taxes on it.
You sell that thing, gotto pay the taxes on it.
You're already taxed fromthe money that you get.
So you're paying the tax on tax dollars.
You own your house.

(23:02):
You got to pay like, we already feellike we're getting way overtaxed.
And so then people are like, orwhat are we getting for our taxes?
Where's all this money going?
We mentioned this in that episode,but the education budget and I'm
doing air quotes for my listenerswas like the third largest budget
in the U S it's it's up there.

(23:23):
It's high.
However, also fun fact, they havethat education budget split out
into seven different little sectors.
And then each sector islike, Oh, okay, cool.
Where's all that money going?
And none of the teachers that I'vetalked to, we're going to talk
to more for all of my listeners.
And if you want to be a guest on ourpodcast, regardless of your profession,
please reach out because our focus is toconnect with you, the beautiful listener.

(23:46):
You have a voice, you have an opinion.
This podcast is very special andextremely unique because we are
not biased in our political views.
We are simply here to solve America'sproblems and we realize that it takes
awareness, it takes diversity, it takesdifferent ideas, it takes different
beliefs, different backgrounds,different religions to all come
together and just really understand,think and know what could be a

(24:10):
awesome solution to a big problem.
So that being stated,where's the money going?
No teacher feels likethey're getting enough.

Dave Conley (24:18):
So

Jerremy Newsome (24:19):
Most parents are aware that teachers aren't getting enough.
We already know they'reoverworked and underpaid.
Fix that, dude.

Dave Conley (24:26):
we are in, I'll call it terminal bureaucracy.
Our schools, no.
Nobody believes that Particularlythese teachers it is like what
we're doing now is not working.
Here's some realities from this and somehighlights jennifer said she had a panic

(24:48):
attack during these drills that they

Jerremy Newsome (24:50):
Huh.

Dave Conley (24:51):
because They the kids don't take it seriously And what are
they going to do to just keep themquiet during one of these things?
And so there's this theoretical safetyPlan in place and protocols, but it
doesn't seem to be working at all in reallife Then they talked about Jennifer again

(25:11):
was like look I got 41 students per classand I didn't even know what these words
were until she described them 20 IEPsand 504 s which are these accommodations
that they have to do for every singlestudent And this is what she said.
I don't really feel like I havetime to teach because I'm just

(25:32):
doing paperwork all the time.

Jerremy Newsome (25:36):
Yeah.

Dave Conley (25:36):
Eric revealed that multiple schools often share
a single resource officer,underscoring serious security gaps.
He said, we're going to be onour own, left to get as many
kids inside as quickly as we can.

Jerremy Newsome (25:49):
Yeah.
Wild.

Dave Conley (25:51):
Come on.
On, these are so glaring.
this is terminal bureaucracy.
we have principals, we have assistantprincipals, we have vice principals, we
have all of this administration, all thisoverhead, and we have, Teachers that are
struggling to just get by during the day.
Oh, remember the food discussion?

Jerremy Newsome (26:11):
Oh boy.
Oh yeah, I remember the food discussion.
Ha.
Yeah.
Here's a cool part forour listeners out there.
Would any one of you go to aschool lunch and then snack
on a delicious school lunch?
You're laughing because wealready know the answer is no.
I would instantly go into a carb overload.
Whereas to the point where if the parentsaren't eating it, why would the kids?

(26:34):
if the kids don't like it and it's nothealthy, I mean that's a whole other very
potential topic that we bring in and maybesome health discussions about America
being healthy because it's all goingto revert back to our education system.
That's what I want people tounderstand is vast majority.

(26:54):
So when you're talking about healthcare.
which is really sick care when you'retalking about all of us getting on
a global or a universal policy andeveryone's paying for everything.
listen, America becomes much morehealthy through a whole array
of topics, but one of them justbeing how do we start in school?

(27:14):
What do we actually eat in school?
I brought school lunchesbecause my mom back then.
Knew

Dave Conley (27:19):
Cause it was garbage.

Jerremy Newsome (27:20):
Yeah, and to her point I sold everything in the lunchbox so that I
could make some money and I didn't reallyever eat lunch, but beyond the topic.
But yes the administrative overload andthe amount of Money that gets poured
into the top line to the midline tothe bottom line should absolutely be

(27:43):
looked at Because if we're going tooverhaul the education system, I think
it should be a profitable endeavor.
Profitable to the point where it's notlosing money in the sense that everyone
that's paying for it feels like they'reactually getting a return on it.
Return being smart, healthy,vibrant, excited children

(28:04):
that are also extremely safe.
That would be the return and I think ifany parent really truly feels like they're
getting that they're not going to havean Issue making that investment towards
the future But I think we were looking atin that episode some of the salaries for
superintendents and the people that area little bit higher above the principle.
And it was like, I need to quitwhat I'm doing and become a

(28:27):
superintendent like mid strong, sixfigures, 300, 200, 400 K a year for

Dave Conley (28:35):
We should definitely ensure that the only meals they
have come from a school cafeteria.

Jerremy Newsome (28:40):
Yeah.
Agreed.
Yep.
Big start.

Dave Conley (28:42):
were you as surprised or shocked as I was that Phys ed
and getting kids out there and likeburning off some of this energy
and health classes and any kind ofmental, mental wellbeing out the door.
So much, not even afterschoolcurricular activities.
I remember Alonzo from the first episodesaying, Hey, we don't wrestle anymore.

(29:03):
Like we don't, we're not like,we're not burning this off.
I know.
I remember you talking about whyaren't we having like martial
arts and self defense and what's.
Were you surprised?
I was super shocked.
It's oh, wow.
What are schools doing now?
If Like basic physicalstuff is out the window.

Jerremy Newsome (29:20):
Out the window.
And I think the shift.
Again, from arts and frommusic and from creation.
I think someone at some stage,whoever that was, or whoever the
policy makers were, Oh, let'sjust make them really smart.
Math, history, science, reading, andlet's just shove that into their face.

(29:42):
All the time.
I was like here's the thing.
That's not how people learn.
you create emotion throughmotion, and as you move, the
movements create memories, right?
Most people's favorite memoriesin life is probably where
some emotion was beautifullyinvolved, and that emotion likely.

(30:06):
stemmed from some level of motion.
So meaning to the point ofour children, including the
adults, like how do we learn?
You do not learn by sittingsedentary in a chair facing one
individual for many hours at a time.
Every single day repeating the exactsame context information without knowing

(30:27):
why you're being taught it withoutunderstanding what's really truly being
taught the premise and the depth behindit there needs to be tons and tons of
engagement There are some private schoolsthat are doing this There are some charter
schools that are doing this but from apublic school standpoint It's like we
need to move these kids are seven, right?

(30:52):
They need to run my three and ahalf year old when he's feeling
healthy, which is not today.
I can hear him crying and thelisteners can't hear him that the
kid, he has a little bit of a fever.
And anyway when he's feeling healthy,the guy will run like four miles
a day and I'm not exaggerating.
Just he'll run around the house.
So run around the kitchen nonstop and Igot to chase him and that's what he wants.

(31:12):
He wants to play tag, but that's three.
Or he's going to run more whenhe's seven, 10 and nine, we

Dave Conley (31:19):
where did he learn this?
Mr. Iron man.

Jerremy Newsome (31:21):
I don't know.
I'm going to blame his mom.
He definitely has restless legsyndrome like I do for sure.
But the beauty is, man,we got to move these kids.
We've got like the Fizz Ed again,in my opinion, if I had a magic
wand and I'm waving this tomorrow.
We're getting these kids outside orin a gym, like as a collective group

(31:42):
doing martial arts, pushups, yoga,breathwork, breathing exercises,
two, three hours a day, minimum.

Dave Conley (31:51):
I will tell you, my biggest learning from this episode two
is this, it's garbage in, garbage out.
Our kids are, underresourced all the way around.
They are not getting good enough sleep.
They're not moving.
they're not getting any supportfor their mental well being.
Their teachers are stressedout and overworked.

(32:13):
the kids don't have after schoolprograms or creative outlets.
I don't think it's a stretch to saythat we are causing our own problem.
we are creating more and morekids that are stressed, depressed,
and they're going to act out incompletely unpredictable ways.
Am I saying that we'recreating school shooters?
No.
But we're not helping.

Jerremy Newsome (32:34):
Yeah.
That's a big, bold statement, man, butnot helping in that, My whole goal and
mission is to prevent, at the same stage,when children have extreme anxiety,
fear and misunderstandings about whothey are, their identity, where do we

(32:55):
really feel like that starts right?
Where do we feel like that begins?
It's just an awareness piece.
It's an awareness of who you are.
That's a very strong aspect as well,because individuals that are going to
feel the most depressed, frustrated,anxious, worried, right in certain
negative emotions, are those that don'thave a very strong individual identity.

(33:20):
And again, just from that point, arewe helping or hurting that right now
with some policies and some beliefsand some discussions in certain states
where we are letting children make toomany blatantly destructive decisions?
Like we're letting 13 year olds and10 year olds dictate what's being done

(33:40):
and what they feel and who they arewe're listening to the imaginations
of teenagers that are still growingtheir mind that obviously see
things differently than adults do.
And so what I mean by that is, weall realize how amazing children
are and how creative and intelligentthey are, but we can't let their

(34:01):
decisions dictate their life.
for example, and this isa joke, but not really.
This morning I was like Jason,what do you want for breakfast?
And he said poop.
He wanted poop for breakfast.
I was like, all right, cool.
Hey, three and a half.
The kid knows exactly whathe wants for breakfast.
Family, we have to realize that wereally have to care and understand.

(34:24):
Obviously, emotions are complex.
As we go through school, the schoolneeds to be something that provides
so much acceleration, momentum,inspiration, courage, happiness.
And we're all adults.
So the adults have to sit down and go,How do I, as an adult, feel courage,
inspiration, motivation, happiness?

(34:46):
Who, with what music, doing whatmotions, what makes me depressed?
Slouching, breathing slowly,breathing shallow, slouching over,
pulling your shoulders down, notexpressing yourself, being quiet
and not thinking and not breathingand not being aware and not moving.

(35:07):
Those are elements that createdepression and sadness extremely often.
And so when you combine from the adultperspective, all of these aspects
that are absolutely going to createcertain Emotions, negative emotions.
As adults, we know what createspositive emotions and we realize

(35:29):
that we need more motion in schools.
we're trying to medicate ourchildren to slow them down, right?
We're giving them legal methamphetamines.
Which is Adderall.
Like you, I think you'd probablybe extremely surprised, Dave.
I don't have the stat in front ofme and I'm sure we can GPT it or

(35:49):
something, but the amount of childrenthat are on Adderall is wild.
And it comes from this ADHD.
Or a d. D, dude, that is tome personally, so bizarre.
If there's anyone thathas a DD, it's me, right?
Like I'm sure, but I would never labelmyself that way because I'm like, who?

(36:13):
Whatever.
I think a lot.
My brain's shift focus a lot.
I ramble a lot.
I get on tangents a lot.
I get on rabbit trails a lot.
Cool.
Figure out ways to bringit back to reality.
Figure out ways to pull and reign it in.
Without medicating me and thatis just something that is just so
wildly bizarre man that we justautomatically fix The energy and

(36:36):
exuberance of youth through medication

Dave Conley (36:39):
Yeah.

Jerremy Newsome (36:40):
wild.

Dave Conley (36:41):
Oof.
So I think the theme kept on comingback to simple versus complex, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, a pill is easy, it doesn'trequire any systemic anything, and
it's like a one on one where everykid's going to benefit from a really

(37:03):
beautiful, amazing environment.
They'll thrive, right?
Like as a kid that much differentthan a golden retriever.
It's like water them,feed them, play with them.
They're damn happy to see yougive them an enriched environment
and they're going to thrive.
And the simple thing.
comes out of okay, just Medicaid them.
And because we're unwilling to fundor do the things that really fix this,

(37:27):
which is to do all of those things,which is to give the rich environment
to have afterschool programs to havesupport for kids that are in economic or
distress, to have, All of that available.
And at the same time, theteachers are doing everything.
They are our front lines and thebureaucracy is killing them when

(37:52):
they are our eyes and our ears.
They are probably thefirst person sometimes.
in these families to really noticethat something's off with a kid.
And that's going to be so much betterthan any behavioral profile or social
media technology or anything else.
It's going to be the teacher thatknows the kids the best being

(38:14):
like, oh, something's wrong.
And this teacher, andthis kid needs some help.
Extra support somewhere.
And I am just frustrated with this isgoing to be a future episode when we come
back to this in school and school safety.
I need to know where this money isactually going because I don't get it.

(38:36):
It's like it's notgoing where it needs it.
Here was the quote.
Let me see if I can find it.
The quote from the brilliant JenniferWeathers, we don't have the money for it.
Like the school doesn't have the money.
The schools are always cutting budgets.
Come on.

Jerremy Newsome (38:54):
The word is always they are they're all like how there is zero
I could pick any school in the countrywalk up to any staff member and go.
Hey, do you guys You Get budgetsurpluses Are you getting tons of money?
Do you have all the money thatyou feel that you need that we're
talking public schools here?
Do you feel like you have tons of money?
Like you just have all of itand you are ready to rock and

(39:16):
roll You have so much supplies.
You have so much help.
You have so much assistance.
Like you got everything you need.
I'm absolutely not going toget strong confirmation on that
statement or that question, right?
It's just not going to happen.
Always getting budget cuts, dude.
So what you said?
Yeah.

Dave Conley (39:36):
So when I think about the priorities of like safety in
schools and coming back to episodeone, I hear about the robot dogs and
the digital twins and I get it right.
Like to me, that's the Adderall pill.
That's Oh, if we just didthat, that will solve it.
And to some extent, sure, right?

(39:56):
It might.
I'm sure fewer school shootingshappen at schools with metal
detectors and plenty of security.
I get it.
That sounds great.
But what came up in this episode twowith the educators is, They aren't
getting any of the money for the funding.
So I want to spend money on technologythat frees up these teachers

(40:19):
because they are our eyes and ears.
They are the ones on the front lines.
if they're spending all of theirtime doing administrative tasks,
these IEPs and 504s and all ofthat, then they're not teaching and
they're not paying any attention.
I want to put technology there.
You said it yourself.
you were connected to thecommunity when you got these.
automatic emails, these automatic texts,and being all, so like it, it creates some

(40:42):
community, it creates some involvement,and that's where I'm spending money.

Jerremy Newsome (40:47):
Yep.
Agreed.
No, I totally agree with you.
That is from a technologystandpoint, right?
Oh, AI is going to help so many people.
Let's help these teachers, right?
Let's get them to, let'shelp them grade tests, shoot
messages out, track individuals.
I say track their students attendance,where, why, when, who, like we can

(41:10):
easily put in some of these systems.
And to your point I truly believethat we're happy to spend money there.
One of the things I would love to do isjust find a way almost across the board
to pay teachers much more, but to alsoreally understand who is in charge.
Why can't teachers be in controlof what they're teaching?
Why can't we give them, Some levelof, okay here's your free reign.

(41:34):
You have the class.
Let's allow you to understandyou're going to be building this.
You can do this.
You can provide, you caninstruct, you can teach.
And then there's obviously levelsof governance and oversight, right?
Principals vice principals,but I'm excited to get.
In the future superintendents

Dave Conley (41:52):
we got, yeah,

Jerremy Newsome (41:53):
Ask them questions.
What are you doing?
Where is the money going?
Where do you get paid?
what do you do all day?
School board members, right?
We gotta start diving into this

Dave Conley (42:02):
we have to because, like that's where the rubber meets the road.
I'm just guessing that for a lot ofplaces that there is political pressure
that's put on the people who are actuallymaking the decisions, the administrators
and the school boards, right?
They are elected or they have,strong special interests or they
have Parents who are puttingpressure there and then that top down

(42:28):
approach filters to everybody else.
What I heard with episode two inparticular and somewhat with three
with talking to Lori, is that we don'thave a teacher centric approach and we
barely have a student centric approach.
So the people who are actually havingto deal with this get everything
put upon them And aren't beinglistened to as far as I can tell

Jerremy Newsome (42:51):
Yeah.
Yep.
They're not.
And I'm sure the teachers wouldgo on strike if they could, right?
If they could, meaning they knowgoing on strike already is going to
create massive economic concerns.
Kids aren't going to beable to go to school.
What are they going to be doing all day?
But also, the truth is, Dave, mostteachers don't have that heart.

(43:12):
They don't have the heart for, payme more, I want a bunch of money.
They really do start.
I would say statisticI'm making up right now.
85 plus percent of teachershave the heart that they want
to teach because they love it.
They get motivated and inspired by, andI'm speaking from the heart of a teacher.
When I teach someone something thatthey did not know, and I helped them

(43:35):
understand it and see it and just practiceit and then begin to implement it.
That brings me so much joy.
my day and week and monthbecomes brighter, becomes more
excited, becomes more purposeful.
I feel more alive.
I feel happier on all fronts when I'mliving my purpose, which is to truly
provide mentally liberating education.

(43:58):
So for other, go ahead.

Dave Conley (44:00):
The reason that teachers are teaching you said
it they're passionate about it
We are getting extremely passionatepeople and that's amazing.
And I think that's the bailingwire and tape that we have on this.
And it seems like it's just onthe edge of disaster or maybe
it's already off the cliff.
I don't know, but all I know is thatthe money's not getting to the right
place because there's an enormous amountof money and it's going somewhere.

(44:25):
Where is it?

Jerremy Newsome (44:25):
Exactly.
It's going somewhere.
Where is it?
That's going to be a great topic.

Dave Conley (44:30):
Yeah, go ahead.

Jerremy Newsome (44:31):
if we're talking about, we've had a great discussion in general
over episode one, episode two, and thenepisode three from tragedy to action.
With Lori, who just had so much bravery,so much power, so much dedication to
saying, listen, what happened to me,let's just work on preventing this.

(44:53):
Let's work on creating structures inplace so that this does not happen
again, turning a mess into a message.
And she is.
Doing so much advocacy work.
And it's really inspiring that she iscreating change implementation right now.
She's making it happen.
So her losing her daughter on February14th, Valentine's day, 2018, it

(45:18):
was very moving and she was justrecounting what occurred on that
day and then allowing herself andallowing her strength to go, all right.
I lost my daughter.
And it was a very movingepisode for us to work on,

Dave Conley (45:36):
Oh, for sure.
It wrapped up this series really nicelyfor me because what I heard was, yeah,
there's absolutely technical solutionsout there and they're not that expensive.
In fact, Alyssa's law has a panicbutton and she said it, look, government
offices, courtrooms, banks, like allof these places have panic buttons.
Like it's ludicrous that theplace that we send our kids to

(45:59):
doesn't have a panic button.
That's.
bonkers.
And she was like, it's as simple asloading it onto a teacher's phone.
And I'm like, Oh my God, come on.
It's an app,

Jerremy Newsome (46:10):
Yeah.

Dave Conley (46:11):
So they're very approachable technical solution.
And then it was all about community.
Like she lived through this.
And so they have the moss clubs,which is engaging the students.
They have the community action stuff.
All of those changes and Alyssa's law,that had been passed in a bunch of States.
I don't know.
It really brought together episode one,which had, technology and had really

(46:34):
looking at profiling and then episodetwo, which is okay, we've got these.
These students that are in thisrough place and this teachers in this
rough place and then episode threewas like, okay, Hey, we hear you.
Here are some things.
And I'm like, Oh, okay.
That sounds pretty good to me.
What, like, where, what did you,what were your thoughts on it?

Jerremy Newsome (46:53):
My thoughts were, I loved that she not only demonstrated swift
change is possible when there is politicalwill and having the private sector do so
much of this lift and get a lot of this.
In motion, I think just brings awarenessto certain people and to certain

(47:18):
political parties where it's like, allright, let's start creating some change
because I'm very happy that it happened.
Obviously, me and you are extremelyexcited for these changes to
be ratified radically quickly.
And although I still feel like there'sgonna be tons and tons of very molasses

(47:39):
like legislation that gets passed, itwill require individuals like Lori, like
me and you, like our listeners to stepup and go, we know this is a problem.
Let's keep chipping away.
Let's keep having discussions,which we're going to have plenty
of future discussions because thispodcast is going nowhere other than.
farther, faster, and deeper to learn,to create solutions, to understand

(48:03):
some of the problems more, to realizethat both you and I know very little
about the ginormous complexities thatis the machine of America, but also
understanding every problem writtendown is already halfway solved.
So to begin to just simply say that thereare possibilities, there are shifts, there

(48:26):
are changes, and one person can createnot only a difference but an impact.
Lori literally showed us that, Dave.
She literally, physically, metaphoricallycreated true change and true impact.
In seven states with numerous schoolsadopting Alyssa's law and the app

(48:46):
that you mentioned Seems so simple.
So it's a quick fast solution where it'shey, This doesn't require a lot of taxes.
This is dozens of dollarsa year for individuals.
This is something thatshould happen quickly.

Dave Conley (49:00):
A hundred percent.
I don't know.
yeah the work that Lori's organizationdoes is a no brainer and her story and
story of Alyssa, really hit home withme I think we have these discussions
about politics about, whatever theissue is, whether it's school shootings
or health or debt bringing reallypersonal impactful stories to things

(49:22):
really moves the needle for peoplewhen you can start feeling somebody
else's pain You're like, oh, okay.
I get it.
You don't have to show me any statisticsabout how weird things are but when you
tell me the story about this personaltragedy it really moved the bar.
she said it over and over again, which isthat she is making systemic change through

(49:46):
the tragedy of losing her daughter.
I'm like, ah, I got to remember that.
I think our audience needs to thinkabout this if you want things to move
then connect with somebody's heart.

Jerremy Newsome (49:58):
Correct.
Cause that's where the change happens.
When we dig into the emotions, whenwe understand who's impacted, how
they're impacted, how frequently,that's the thing that surprised both
of us, as we looked into some ofthe statistics for school shootings.
You said a few times, the ones thatmost shock us obviously are the huge

(50:21):
ones, the mass shootings that arejust so diabolical, but there are
also so many small ones that occur.
Where it's one, two, three peoplepotentially gang violence or just
someone very upset at one other person.
And the fact that it happensagain, not someone getting beat up.
like a 1975 high school film wheretwo people just fight it out.

(50:45):
Like we probably all want toresolve our issues as a teenager.
Just go fight it out, dude.
But bringing a gun into schooland solving the issue that way for
that particular individual is justobviously extremely ludicrous.
So what I see, man, is that thereare changes that are being made.

(51:08):
And for our listeners, it's a topicthat's going to continue to become more
and more large, more and more wide aswe continue to just go down the issue,
have conversations with people, knowingthat it's a problem and knowing also
that it is solvable and can at leastbe decreased dramatically, right?

(51:29):
The amount of school shootings.
have increased so abhorrently overthe last decade that it's truly mind
blowing, mind altering, emotionallyshifting, where you gotta go, there
has to be something done about this.
Yeah.

Dave Conley (51:46):
And I know I brought it up a bunch of times,
which is okay, what happened?
It seemed like Columbine reallykicked this off in the late nineties.
And then it's just, it's been a wildfire.
I'm like, okay what's going on?
You like I don't know.
Like I've, we haven't duginto that cause enough for me.
I heard a lot of things thatwe can do, but it's Yeah.

(52:06):
What happened in the nineties, man?
what's going on?
So I don't know.

Jerremy Newsome (52:09):
Yeah.

Dave Conley (52:10):
We,

Jerremy Newsome (52:11):
that there needs to be more research on it, but to your point,
something happened and the word obviouslygot thrown around a bunch of social media.
And I think a lot of us as adults knowthat comparison is the thief of joy.
And so we know that's happening,but it's not like we're going
to get rid of social media.
It's not like we're goingto get rid of phones.
That's not going to happen.
But is there a way to work outthose discussions, work out those

(52:34):
conversations, let children know thatit's okay to have conversations your
peers, about how they're feeling orwhy they're posting or why they said
this, and just be more open about it.
And just, again, to your point, haveconversations, have communication
and let that healing take place.
Let teachers, counselors,guidance, counselors.
Individuals that have the skills to justsit down and moderate some of this inside

(52:58):
of schools to allow healing to occur.
But yes, there has been and was somemegalithic shift that occurred in the U.
S. specifically.

Dave Conley (53:09):
Like the rest of the world has the internet and they
didn't have an uptick and all of this.
so I don't know.
there's something in there, like maybeit's a little bit of a lot of things.
Maybe it's,

Jerremy Newsome (53:18):
yeah,

Dave Conley (53:19):
in our food.

Jerremy Newsome (53:20):
But it's something.

Dave Conley (53:20):
it's any one thing I'm not going to say it's the internet.
I'm not going to say it's social media.
I'm not going to say it's any of this,but it might be a lot of different things.
It's like something happened.
I, at least in the research, itdidn't seem again, guns weren't
the thing or the accessibility ofguns, because actually that's been
about the same all these years.
So I was like, man, whathappened at Columbine?

(53:42):
I'm like, when I was growing upa million years ago, it's like
they blamed music on everything.
It's like listening To rap music,which was really launching in the late
80s and early 90s, actually it wasTipper Gore, Al Gore's wife, who really
spearheaded this whole thing aboutputting warning labels on all the albums
and the cassettes CDs, and at leastfor me and my friends, that marked the

(54:05):
albums that we wanted to listen to.
It's Oh, good.
It's got a sticker on it.
Let's go.

Jerremy Newsome (54:09):
Yeah.
The parental advisory sticker.

Dave Conley (54:11):
Yeah.

Jerremy Newsome (54:12):
Quick fact check though, Dave it was 2 million
years ago that you were in school.

Dave Conley (54:18):
2 million years ago.

Jerremy Newsome (54:21):
That's the birth of, I would probably just say more
freedom of speech as well, right?
Where you are allowed to say whateveryou want as an artist and you can
create that and you can publish that.
And the more grotesque it isto your point, the more it
probably attracts the youth and.

(54:44):
There's also all the people thatdid listen to NWA and Eminem
and Marilyn Manson that like

Dave Conley (54:52):
best

Jerremy Newsome (54:53):
Korn and Slipknot that did not do anything negative as well.

Dave Conley (54:56):
right.

Jerremy Newsome (54:57):
Percent of all those listeners.
It's a very interesting piece.
And I think the fun topic also infuture episodes really just will be
that mental health awareness, right?
if we can find maybe a profiler forthe FBI and say the individual that
undergoes and performs as a mass schoolshooting, what did happen to them?

(55:19):
And how do we prevent it?
How do we lessen the likelihood thathappens to a child, whatever it is?
And that is, I think, probably going tobe a very strong root concern and root
cause for how we do make proper shifts andproper impact so that this doesn't occur.

Dave Conley (55:37):
one key thing, what I didn't know before this that I know now that
came up in all episodes was community.
And if we're looking at a root cause.
There is something about community,like we are probably more connected

(55:58):
than we ever have been in humanityand yet we're feeling more alone.
We see that actually in otherareas and this came up in
episodes 1, which is community.
Things get better with community.

Jerremy Newsome (56:12):
Huh.

Dave Conley (56:12):
future I definitely want to understand like where the money's
going and all that other stuff.
There, That's great.
And there's a rich chocolatey centerat the middle of this which is
something to do about community.
That seems to be, the lack of communityor, pretending we have community when we
don't, or something's been lost there.

Jerremy Newsome (56:33):
Yep.
And I think probably a veryvalid argument would be.
Parents got to work more dog.
Like we've got to work twojobs to pay for things.
The carton of eggs over here where I live,no joke is 11 and 68 cents before taxes.

Dave Conley (56:50):
It's a dollar a piece.

Jerremy Newsome (56:52):
A dollar an egg dog.
When I was

Dave Conley (56:55):
Oof.

Jerremy Newsome (56:56):
I sold a carton of eggs for a dollar.
That's the exact opposite.
So that's the thing is like theparents got to work so much.
It's really hard for us to get away.
It's hard for us to create the community.
It's a challenge for us toactually break away from the.
day to day grind to actually be thereand to spend time as a community.

(57:16):
And so that's obviously the challenge too.
So to that point, I think also thatsolution lies in education reform
because all parents were once children.
Fun fact, biology, hashtag science.
And when we understand that.
We go, yep, we were all once kids andwe now know what we learned in school.

(57:37):
If schools begin to also just simplydiscuss financial literacy every
day, there can be a wealth and aprosperity shift in this country
where people are investing more.
They are spending a little bit less, or atleast they understand how to spend less.
They understand how to create surplus.
They understand theassets and liabilities.

(57:59):
They know how to investin and what to invest in.
They understand that mindset.
They understand theentrepreneurial mindset.
They understand different savingvehicles and different retirement
vehicles and how early one can start.
Oh my gosh.
Just knowing some of thosecomponents, knowing how the stock
market works, knowing how tomake Wise or wiser investments

(58:19):
decisions that are more beautifulfor the longevity of a portfolio.
Those are things that can be discussed.
And again, even if the teachersspecifically do not know themselves,
which I think is really oftentimes thecase, that's where I do believe that
a lot of the education reform is goingto come down to having a one to many

(58:39):
approach where what was That one reallypopular workout that took everyone by
storm, like in the early 2000s thatyou would put on a DVD and people
would work out Yeah, let's say P90X.
Sure.
So let's say an example of everygym, every school in the country
has to play P90X or their version,and everyone's working out

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simultaneously for a good hour.
And again, you adapt that levelof intricacy and that level of
education to also potentially scienceor history and financial literacy.
The reason I was making that exampleis you can have a one to many
approach versus one teacher to 30kids or 40 kids where they feel

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overwhelmed and they feel worried.
Now you have the best of the best.
Someone teaching speaking voicelessons, piano lessons, body language.
financial literacy, history, science,Bill Nye, the science guy, right?
You create this.
This is one of the best teachers on earthteaching about this particular subject.

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They teach that particular subject.
The teachers are therelearning with the kids.
They're there understanding and helpingand being a guidance and being a control.
And after the taping or the giantclass exercises over, then they all
come together and have conversationsabout what went right, what was cool,
what was unique, what stood out.
What I'm saying is there are shifts thatcan easily be made where you put the best

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of the best in front of our children.
We allow our teachers to do anincredible job, to have more space, to
have more flexibility, to have time tothink, to plan to create, to schedule.
And when you make these prioritizations.
That also does allow the community tobecome more involved because if the
teachers are able to plan more andgive a lot more notice to parents and

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really plan and dictate and create andprioritize, that's how that community
can easily become more involved,especially in communities that presently
don't have much of an involvement.

Dave Conley (01:00:42):
I love that.
let me also I'm sure we've had peoplewho've listened to the series and
they might be freaked out, theymight be inspired, whatever it is.
Based on what we learned, as we satthrough all of these with amazing people,
What are steps that our audience cantake today, or this week, or this month,

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or this year, that you think will movethe bar for safety in school shootings?

Jerremy Newsome (01:01:11):
I think one of the big steps is get on
podcasts and talk about it.
The mainstream media, mainstreamnews I heard a statistic last night.
the average news station has a hundredthousand views weekly, which is small.
the people that are now being viewedthe most are influencers, social

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media influencers, podcasters,people with voices, people that
spend time to do the research.
As parents, as teachers, as communitymembers, go get on those shows.
Get on this show right here,Solving America's Problems.
Come on and voice your ideas, yourbeliefs, what you believe the changes that
could or should easily be implemented.

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Bring those to people that aremaking waves in the solution arena.
Also, I would think that the bestthing you can do is have, Parents have
conversations with these teachers.
maybe call them on the phone, maybeschedule a sit down where you can
come in, be a part of the classroomfor, I don't know, 17 minutes.
Come in early one day on your dayoff, spend time to really care and see

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the struggles of the teachers, talkto them, have conversations, because
the conversations are what's missing.
The conversations between parents.
And the teachers, parents, andthe school staff, parents, and the
school administration, but parentsand the kids, and the teachers,
kids, and the school administration.
These are conversations that are lacking

Dave Conley (01:02:38):
I that's the number one for me.
If somebody is passionate about thistopic and school safety, go talk to
your kids teachers and just ask them.
Hey, how do you feel about this?
What do you think needs to be done?
What would make this easier for you?
And just listen to them.
And then that will develop theaction plan because I know that it's

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going to be different from school toschool from urban, suburban or rural.
I know it's going to be different fromstate to state and community to community.
And so when you start gettingcurious, like me that's the moment
where action leads to change.

Jerremy Newsome (01:03:16):
yeah, absolutely.
And to that point, if you area listener, thank you so much.
If you've worked in policy or advocacy.
Come tell us what barriers you have facedfrom getting some of these solutions
that we've mentioned implemented.
we want to hear from you, right?
Hop on this podcast.
Let us use our skill setsand our technologies and our

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networks to just come together.
And again, start building a reallybeautiful, cohesive platform over
the next three to seven years, aswe continue to build and go forward
to just really understand see andfeel what we truly can do because
we're not done solving problems.
There's going to be all of

Dave Conley (01:03:58):
ever?

Jerremy Newsome (01:03:59):
We're never going to be done.
There's always going to be problems.
There's always going to be challenges,but here's the beautiful part.
if you are a praying type andyou ask God for strength, God
doesn't give you more strength.
It gives you bigger rocks to pushchallenges to overcome hurdles to climb
over so that you can become Strongeron your own the beautiful part of

(01:04:24):
all this is As we have challenges,we just simply have to sit down and
go, we know that there's problems.
We know that there are solutions.
Let's begin to tackle them.
Let's begin to chip away at them.
And I truly believe in my heart ofhearts, the core change that will
alleviate so many of the burdensof this country is education.
And as you unravel, tweak, adjust, growand expand the version of how we can

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impact our Children closer and more.
We want to really focus onwhat we can do going forward.
So speaking of one of those, as Ibriefly mentioned in this episode, we
got some big things to talk about next.
One of them being This giantdeficit that we're in, right?

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The financial consequences of the country.
That's something that'snot going to go away.
We really need to focus on that.
So we are diving next into college, goingagain into education and talking about,

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all right, as part of this giant nationallooming debt that we're in, none of you.
Are prepared or ready for how muchof that debt is being burdened
by people going to college.
So it's going to challenge us inways that Dave and I did not expect.

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Every single one of you are going toget absolutely just thrashed by what
you think is going on in colleges.
We have so much discussion on that topic.
After the kids are inschool, where do they go?
Next is college still worth it so muchdiscussions and topics on that day of
our listeners are going to be pumped

Dave Conley (01:06:10):
thank you all for listening to this wrap up episode of Solving
America's Problems with your co hosts,Dave and Jeremy, and we're looking
forward to seeing you next time.

Jerremy Newsome (01:06:21):
Yep.
See you family