In the second episode, I invite junior Shelly Shen to a slow, deliberate conversation on means and ends.
Episode 2 in a 🌰:
Is getting good grades the goal—or just a step along the way? In this reflective, thoughtful convo, Audrey and Shelly dive deep into one of life’s classic philosophical dilemmas: should we live for the result, or for the journey itself?
From college apps and parental pressure to Pixar's Soul, astrophysics, and creative writing, this episode explores what it means to live with purpose—or without one. Expect an honest, sometimes funny, sometimes deep exchange on what really matters in high school and beyond.
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Introduction: Chasing Grades or Meaning?
00:32 Understanding Means and Ends
00:54 The Pressure of Grades and Future Anxiety
02:51 Parental Perspectives on Success
05:30 Defining Personal and Family Goals
10:14 The Meaning of Life and Personal Fulfillment
12:16 Pixar's 'Soul' and Life's Purpose
15:38 Talent, Purpose, and Fear of Missing Out
17:11 Reflecting on Musical Journeys
18:49 The Spiritual Value of Art
20:01 Memories Beyond Grades
24:09 The Joy in Philosophical Discussions
26:05 Creative Writing and World Building
27:30 Finding Meaning in the Means
30:49 The Importance of Reflection
32:13 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
🥜Hypothetical Nut of the Day: What would you do if you had no responsibilities and time?
Hope you liked the ep!
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