November 16, 2025 • 38 mins
We share Dave Scher’s song “All Right” and trace the path from solitude to self acceptance, blending Texas soul, craft choices, and the grind of a working musician. Dave opens up about patience, boundaries, and why live music still matters more than ever.
• writing from memory and finding truth in quiet
• “All Right” as a statement of peace and permission
• lyric choices that serve rhythm and feel
• picking joy over burnout and pruning gigs
• the weekly Eddie V’s trio as a creative lab
• balancing studio costs with headspace needs
• resilience in a shifting music business
• AI as a tool, not a substitute for live exchange
• hemiola and the hidden pulse of the verses
• what the song asks listeners to believe about themselves
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Dr. Pelè (00:01):
Welcome to Songs and Stories from the Soul, where
every melody carries a message,and songwriters share the faith,
the heart, and the story thatshape their song.
Welcome to Songs and Storiesfrom the Soul.
I'm your host, Dr.
Pillet, and today we are joinedby one of Austin's most gifted
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musicians.
And I say that with a lot ofrespect, a lot of love.
I've seen him perform.
I've listened to his records.
He's a guitarist, he's asinger, and he's a bass player,
he's a drummer, he's a keyboardplayer.
Got me more to add to him.
But most of it- but mostimportantly, he is a singer,
songwriter, storyteller whosesound embodies, I think, uh,
(00:47):
this is my opinion, really whatI might call the heart of Texas
soul.
And I just gave you somethingto think about there.
His name is Dave Sherry.
Dave, how are you doing today?
Dave Scher (00:57):
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
Thank you for having me on theshow.
Dr. Pelè (01:01):
Awesome, awesome.
You know what?
As we always do, I'd love tolisten to the song together with
you.
And then on the other side, Ihave a whole bunch of questions
to ask you about the song AllRight.
Dave Scher (01:12):
All right.
Dr. Pelè (01:14):
All right, let's check it out.
Dave Scher (01:46):
Nobody around for mouth, I think I'll take a walk.
Nobody stops my foot mark onthe baby time to wear this.
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I don't mind so much baby roadtrip up it.
Dr. Pelè (05:31):
Wow.
So, you know, I I have to say,I've I've heard you do blues,
funk, even some country.
Literally, you play it all.
And and in fact, I saidsomething to you yesterday,
Dave, about how I would compareyou to Prince.
And and you were you were like,well, nobody's ever said that.
Well, you know why I would saythat?
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I grew up in Minneapolis.
Um I spent 30-some years uh inMinneapolis.
I played with a bunch of theguys that Prince played with.
I recorded with folks that herecorded.
I was in a band with folks thathe played with.
So I know him well.
I just never actually playedwith him, but I know him well
and I know that thing, andyou've got that thing.
Um thank you.
Wow.
Dave Scher (06:11):
Yeah, very special.
Appreciate that.
Dr. Pelè (06:14):
Yeah.
So let's let's unpack uh alittle bit about you and a
little bit about the song, andlet's weave it all together.
First of all, uh, where wereyou when you wrote this song?
It it it just seems like such aif I could use the word heavy,
heavy, really, really likeletting go kind of a song.
Where were you emotionally whenyou wrote this song?
Dave Scher (06:36):
I'm trying to think.
I'm I'm not sure where I was inin life or or in my head.
I I sometimes I sometimes I canuh be in a completely content
place in in life and think tomyself, I'd like to write a
heavy song.
And I'll go there and I'll beable to pull from different
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times in my life that uh youknow, because I mean sometimes
I'll write a breakup song abouta breakup that happened six
years ago.
And I'm and I'm very much overthe breakup, you know, but but
uh but it w I I just wasn't ableto uh go there as far as
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songwriting at the time.
And when I was able to gothere, I had memories and and
experiences, past experiences topull from.
Dr. Pelè (07:34):
Yeah.
Dave Scher (07:35):
You know, so I don't know where I was with this
song.
It might have it might havebeen, you know, I might have
been uh like in the thick of it.
But uh I'm not sure.
I I do know that uh because Idon't know exactly if there's an
actual character or like youknow, like a uh like a uh
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non-fictional time that that putme in this place.
Uh so to speak.
But uh I uh I I I can'tremember if if it was something
where where I was pulling fromyou know, this was coming out
live, yeah, you know, in realtime, or if I was pulling from
memories.
But yeah, uh I it is uh it'sit's definitely it's still a
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familiar feeling.
It it wasn't completely madeup, you know.
Dr. Pelè (08:24):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, it's funnybecause even if you can't
remember exactly where you were,the song was talking about
where you want to go.
For example, the one of thefirst opening lines, you go,
nobody around for miles.
Um, I think I'll take a walk.
You know, I mean, you'repainting such a vivid picture of
solitude.
You know, it's like you want togo somewhere, and and you're
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like, you know what?
All right.
Right.
It's like you've got your mindmade up.
You know, tell us a little bitabout the lyrics.
Let's get into the into sort ofthat content.
What did you mean by you thinkyou'll just take a walk?
Were you alone?
Uh or was being alone part ofhow this song was born?
Was there something to do witha breakup, uh leaving of
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somewhere to go somewhere else?
What was that that all about?
Dave Scher (09:12):
Uh, I think we all come to come to times in our
lives where we uh sort ofquestion who we are as far as
what what makes us special, asfar as you know, our
communication skills, or do ouris everybody we're uh
surrounding ourselves withliking us all the time?
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Or you know, do we frustrateour peers with the way that we
do things?
And you know, if we do, wecertainly don't mean it because
it's just the way we are.
And I'm I'm I'm this is uhafter this song was written, the
song is not a very new song,uh, and still to this day I'm
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I'm uh every day kind of uhfiguring more and more out about
who I am and what what how Icommunicate and how you know the
things that make me uh thethings that make me
self-conscious.
And uh I don't know, mycommunication skills are I've
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always thought they need work.
I've always thought that my myway with words is is not great.
And there are lots of friendsof mine that claim to disagree
with that.
But uh I I mean I listen to alot of these kind of Zoom
interviews back.
I listen back and I alwaysthink, why is it?
Why is it taking me so long toanswer?
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Why is it taking me so long tothink of the word and I'm so bad
at thinking of the right word,you know, and I want it to be
the right word, so it takes me aminute and it frustrates me.
And other aspects of that, theway I communicate can be
long-winded.
And uh I was at a I think I wasat a I must have been when
writing it this song, I musthave been at a place where I was
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fed up with being sorry for uhhow I am as a person to
communicate with, and if I takemy time, so be it.
And uh I'll just I'm just gonnalove me for who I am because
other people do as well, andI'll just surround myself with
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those people.
Wow You know?
And uh the the taking a walk.
Nobody around for miles.
I think I'll take a walk.
It's kind of a I guess that wasa uh accepting and uh who I am,
accepting who I am, and uhdeciding to slowly move on with
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that, put one foot in front ofthe other and just be okay with
that, with who I am and not beapologetic, you know.
Dr. Pelè (11:59):
You know, when I when I listen to you, uh we even when
I I look at you as you speak,I'm hearing an artist through
and through.
You know, so some people areyou know just technical
musicians, like they they justthey can do whatever, you know,
whatever they need to get donemusically, they'll do it.
Dave Scher (12:18):
Right.
Dr. Pelè (12:18):
But some people like you are artists.
Like it is it is your body, itis your heart, it's blood, it's
sweat, it's truth.
Um, I'm literally hearing youdescribe your your your deepest
truth almost in a vulnerableway.
Normal, normal musicians whoaren't artists don't go there.
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You you really go there.
You really go there.
Dave Scher (12:42):
I'm starting to go there.
This is not this is a newthing, you know.
Dr. Pelè (12:45):
Oh, really?
That's interesting.
That's interesting.
Dave Scher (12:48):
Because I I'm a I'm a technical player also, and
I've been that before I was asongwriter, and I've had that
that those traits of of uh beingclosed, you know, you know, not
being such an open book, andI'm learning that you know
that's what people like, whetherthey think you're too much or
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not, they like that about you.
They like when you're when youshare.
Dr. Pelè (13:12):
Yeah, they want to they want to hear who you are
and stuff.
In this in this chorus, yousay, I'm alright with that, I
know where I'm at.
To me, it feels like like peaceuh after the storm, um you
know, or something, like troubleand bad grammar.
But you know, it'sconversational, it works.
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So what was that what was thatphrase?
Since it's such a central pointof the song, all right.
What would what does thatphrase mean to you personally?
That that that you know whereyou're at?
It's like peace after thestorm.
What is all that?
Dave Scher (13:48):
That's exactly it.
I know where I'm at and peace.
I'm pe I'm at peace with it,and and and I'm alright with all
of these things that I am, allof these things, all of these
things that I've done, or all ofthe ways that I've made people
feel, whether it's good or bad,um, no regrets.
I'm alright with that.
Yeah, you know, everythinghappens for a reason, everything
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I do, everything we all dohappens for a reason.
Yeah you know it's just uh it'sjust uh an acceptance sort of
thing of and and and being atpeace with yeah yeah.
Dr. Pelè (14:25):
I I wrote a song once uh called Let Go.
Um and uh it's it's saying thatkind of a message.
I I'm now finally ready to justlet go.
I actually wrote another songlater called Let Go Let God,
which is like a different kindof yeah, a different kind of
letting go.
So I'm totally there with you.
Now, one more question aboutthe lyrics, it's kind of a fun
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thing.
Yeah, you talk about a 79Corvette, okay.
Like I'm just I got I got theseimages in my mind.
I'm looking around like, okay,what do you mean by that?
What does that mean to you?
Dave Scher (15:00):
That was just, I mean, I am a bit of a car buff.
Uh, and uh that's not that'snot my favorite year or
anything.
That's not my favorite year ofuh I think I think the stingray
was still going on and still 79.
I could be wrong.
I thought it was until 80 or81, but um it's not my favorite
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year.
It's just it's just at thatpoint you have an idea and uh
and and you want to convey theidea, maybe not the exact uh
word year, but uh, but thathappens to be the best thing to
roll off the tongue.
You know, in my opinion, itwouldn't have worked to to say
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uh you know 64 Roadster.
Yeah, yeah or whatever.
Dr. Pelè (15:49):
No, I I I I hear you.
You know, we we've talked a lotabout um this particular song,
but I want to switch gears andtalk about you a little bit in
terms of uh what you do as amusician.
Now you've played for some veryuh top names.
You've played for yourself,you've had a rotation uh in
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Austin, you've done lots ofthings.
Give me give us a sense of kindof what you what you're doing
musically nowadays, um you know,with your career.
Dave Scher (16:20):
Well, I'm probably playing between five and seven
nights a week, and a lot oftimes doubling up.
It's becoming more and morepopular to have a live band play
an event at 2 p.m.
And so I'm able to do somethinglike that and and be available
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for something in at night at ain a club.
Dr. Pelè (16:44):
Yeah.
Dave Scher (16:44):
And uh so I'm working all the time.
I don't do a whole lot ofpracticing at home, yet my hands
are always hot, they're alwayswarmed up and ready because I'm
I'm blessed.
I'm very fortunate to be uh myphone is ringing all the time.
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And I can fill my calendar upwith work if I want to, and I'm
and the as of now, I'm I'm uh asof late, I'm I'm just now kinda
learning how to say no and fillmy calendar up with uh only
things that make me happy.
And that's a process becauseI've been I've made myself a pr
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a promise a couple years ago todo one thing, and that was to
stop uh leading bands forweddings.
And I did that.
And at first I took a big oldfinancial hit.
Dr. Pelè (17:47):
Yeah.
Dave Scher (17:48):
Uh but my sanity was all there.
I was happy again, or I was onmy way to being happy again, and
I kept playing weddings, but Iwould go play guitar with a band
and show up, you know, tenminutes before sound check and
leave two minutes after theconclusion of the event and have
no other responsibility than toshow up, play, be a good guy,
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and leave.
Yeah, and it and that's andthat did not take a hit on my
sanity.
It was the other stuff whereyou're in direct communication
with um not the band.
Dr. Pelè (18:23):
Yeah, yeah.
Dave Scher (18:24):
So I bought I made that promise to myself a while
ago, and I've been doing reallywell on that.
And other little things hereand there to to whittle it down
to only things that make mehappy.
Yeah.
And I'm I'm I'm pretty muchthere.
Every now and then I still todo some things that uh they're
just they don't make me unhappy.
They're just maybe not theeasiest gig in the world, but
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you know, maybe it it'sfinancially rewarding.
Yeah.
But but I I'm I'm busy all thetime, and it's never really with
my with something that's undermy own name.
The only consistent thing I'vegot going on right now is really
kind of nice.
I like it.
It's Eddie V's, it's a Sunday.
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So it's a nice restaurant.
It's a not terribly popularweek, day of the week.
Uh I sit at a real acoustic sixfoot one grand piano.
Dr. Pelè (19:26):
Wow.
Dave Scher (19:27):
With a trio.
There's a house drum kit and abass player.
I sit at the piano bench with aguitar and play piano and sing.
I have all this these resourcesat my literal fingertips.
And you know, I stretch out andtry new things.
I try different cover songs,get my phone out and look up the
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lyrics to something I've nevertried before, and it's not a big
deal because it's a restaurantand people didn't per purchase
tickets to see me.
Dr. Pelè (19:58):
Yeah.
Dave Scher (20:00):
So it's a nice little way of shedding and and
trying new things and gettingready for whatever ticketed
event I have.
It's like once a month orsometimes twice.
But other than that, I am aguitar player and a bass player,
um, sometimes keys, every nowand then drums for all sorts of
artists or all sorts of coverbands.
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And I'm just I I'm a little bitof a workaholic.
I also um have a studio at myhouse and I I send tracks to
people who want maybe a solo onon their track that don't live
in Austin or anything.
And I'd like to do that morethan honestly.
But I don't I haven't I've beentrying to write more and I'd
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like to write more than I havebeen, but I've been doing better
than I have in the past, andand I've been working on new
music.
But my solo career, my brand,my as an artist, uh I have not
stopped working on that, but Ihave been working slowly.
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You know, it's it has notreally been bringing me any
revenue.
It's been costing me money.
Because I've been going to thestudio.
I don't know, I don't I mean,sometimes I don't want to record
at my house.
Sometimes I want to go to s outof my house.
Dr. Pelè (21:23):
Yeah.
Dave Scher (21:24):
And if it's gonna be my music that I'm going to
record, maybe being in a certainheadspace is so much more
important than it than I need tobe for someone else's music.
Yeah.
So I think it's worth it to getinto another studio.
And I've been doing that, andit's you know, you know, exp
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recording is expensive.
Yeah.
Uh if you're not recording athome.
And it's just my career is issomething I've I've just little
by little investing in, but Idon't do it every day like um
like a lot of the people I Iplay me I play guitar or bass
for you.
Yeah.
A lot of them are at it everyday, and that's not me yet, you
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know?
Dr. Pelè (22:06):
Yeah, well, if you ever uh want to find a different
studio to to jam at, just comeon over.
Come to Casapella.
My studio upstairs is gonna bejust fine.
Dave Scher (22:16):
Oh, yeah.
I know you got a good setup.
I gotta keep my.
Dr. Pelè (22:19):
You know, one thing I wanted to say is that you know,
you talk about doing the thingsthat make you happy.
And and as I listen to you, Ifeel some of the pain of a true
artist.
You know, we want to focus onour art, we want to create,
write our songs, but thenthere's this huge big thing out
there called the music business.
Dave Scher (22:41):
And it's like I don't like it at all.
Dr. Pelè (22:46):
Like, like, can somebody else please please do
this stuff for us?
And that would be great.
You call yourself your mymanager, call yourself whatever
whatever you want to callyourself, just do it.
How have you I've seen you onFacebook?
Um were you on tour with uh Ithink Eric Johnson?
Dave Scher (23:05):
Yes.
Dr. Pelè (23:06):
For a long time, and that was when you were hardest
to reach, by the way.
Because you're you're hard toyou're hard to reach, but at
that point, it's like I had towait weeks and months just to
get it.
Dave Scher (23:17):
I know, right?
Dr. Pelè (23:17):
Yeah, but but you know how has how has the changing
music business affected the wayyou feel about music?
Obviously, you live for music.
You you you literally wake upand you do music all the time.
You love this thing with apassion.
I mean, the business kills itfor a lot of people.
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How how what's your perspectiveon that topic?
Dave Scher (23:43):
It is still slowly killing me.
But but I don't think, and thisI don't know, this might sound
like a sad or untrue thing tosay about myself, but I don't
think I'm really good atanything else.
Or shall I say, I I don't thinkI could be happy doing anything
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else.
I've wanted to do this since Iwas I mean, I pick up the guitar
at 10 and if it wasn't rightthen and there, it must I might
have been twelve.
At the latest is when I at thelatest when I figured out.
And I never knew something sosure as a as a as a child.
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I figured out then and therewhat I wanted to do for the rest
of my life.
Dr. Pelè (24:31):
Wow.
Dave Scher (24:31):
It's still evident.
I don't think for one secondabout this career of mine, like,
oh, what was I thinking as a12-year-old?
No, that I've I've I've alwaysfelt this way.
And I don't think I could maybeI could be wrong, you never
know, but I don't think I couldbe happy doing anything else.
So it has helped me uh it hashelped me take on each challenge
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of the ever-changing musicbusiness, the way that uh people
who want to have a band fortheir event, how they are, how
they uh are to deal with, andhow you know, maybe you are the
one maybe you are theprofessional and and you wish
that you the that you couldoffer some more consulting for
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them, but they're not reallyinterested because they they're
they are um convinced they knowmore about what they want than
than you do.
Uh challenges like that where alot of people who are like, you
know, they play music and andthey do love it, but they could
they could be happy being anauto mechanic or getting or
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getting into contracting or HVACor you know there's always this
little way out of well then Idon't really have to deal with
this.
And I've always thought I haveto deal with this one way or
another, and it's made me beoptimistic and it's made me be
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patient.
It has tried my patience.
Um and uh but it but I'velearned a lot.
I've learned a lot about myselfand and and how I not just how
I am as a person, but but whatmy capabilities are as a as a
patient person and as a someonewho learns new things and
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someone who learns how tocommunicate, to be to always be
on someone's good side, youknow, and not feel like you're
selling yourself short.
Yeah, yeah.
So because this is all I wantto do, I've made myself um be
very accepting of the thing Icannot change, which is the
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ever-changing music businessfrom all aspects, you know.
It's it's frustrating, but attimes.
But it's also an opportunity uhan opportunity to learn, and I
think a lot of artists could uhcould view it that way, could
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could benefit from viewing itthat way, where it's always an
opportunity to learn, even ifit's not something you're liking
at all, you know.
Dr. Pelè (27:24):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, you you'veyou've uh obviously made peace
with the music industry.
Um you've done all aspects ofof music, you've done teaching,
uh, you've done uh theperforming, you've done
songwriting, uh, you've donemarketing of yourself.
As I said, I've seen you indifferent venues, your website.
(27:44):
But but getting back to sort ofthe sense of songwriting and
this particular song, if someoneout there is listening to you,
getting to know you a little bitas a person, obviously they can
see your heart, very, verytransparent.
Um what do you think a songlike Alright and the letting go
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process, the being at peaceprocess that the song talks
about?
What do you think what do youthink you could leave in
someone's heart?
What do you hope this song doesfor the listeners?
Dave Scher (28:18):
The same thing that uh it did for me, the same thing
that I the same way that I feltwhen I was putting this song
together, uh to be not justcontent with yourself, but
thrilled with yourself.
Because um you say it in manyof your songs, and it's it's
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it's the most powerful thing islove, and you need to employ
that on yourself.
Yeah, it is absolutelyimperative that we do that, that
we love ourselves.
Yes, it's imperative that wespread love.
It has to happen.
We have to spread love, but wedo have to love ourselves.
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We do, and and uh sometimes wedon't, and we're just going
through something.
And at some point you just trythings and something's gotta
give, and eventually you you'reit has to come to the conclusion
of you know, that's okay.
I am who I am, I love who I am.
(29:22):
Yeah, you know, and that's whatI hope someone can take from
that message.
Dr. Pelè (29:30):
You know, and I hope that they take it not just from
that message, but from your bodyof work, your presence.
And by the way, anyonelistening, you probably noticed
he just said that my songs do acertain thing.
Well, that's because he'splayed on three of them.
Dave Scher (29:45):
Um I'm not biased though, I promise.
Dr. Pelè (29:48):
He so so you you actually know that I'm about
these kinds of heartfelt storiesand and love and and
connection, and I really believethat that's important.
So obviously, I'm a Fan of yourkind of music and and all that
stuff.
You know, in closing, I justwant to go back a little bit to
thank you, first of all, forsharing your heart, uh, your
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song, of course, your story.
Um, you know, your your yourjourney reminds me anyway that
peace isn't about everythingbeing perfect.
Um it's about knowing wherewe're at uh and being all right
with that.
And that's what this song says.
I'm gonna give you the lastword.
Um how how how do you feelabout just the last word
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regarding this amazing song?
Um, and thank you for beinghere to share it.
Go for it.
Dave Scher (30:41):
The last word for this song?
Dr. Pelè (30:43):
Yes.
Or for anything else you wantto say, by the way.
You got the last word.
Dave Scher (30:47):
Well, uh, I don't know how interesting it'll be,
but uh I am uh I've I still am atype of person who is believes
that they're not great withwords.
I think I think my lyricsaren't too bad, they're not too
shabby, but they don't comenaturally, and it takes me a
while to think of them and tomake them feel right, rolling
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off the tongue.
I don't have that same problemwith um instrumentation.
I don't have that same problemwith arranging harmony, rhythm,
melody into something on thefly, the way that some
incredible songwriters can justspit poetry like that.
(31:31):
Yeah.
Um so there's a little bit of anod to that in in all right.
Um and uh there's a there's amusical term um known as uh
himiola, which is uh it's it'scut it's basically like two
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rhythms going on simultaneously,and at some point they meet
back up on the same one, on thesame downbeat.
And I'm doing that, I employthat in each verse of the song.
You know, the and the the wholesong is and I sing so uh you
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know if I if I clapped what I'msinging in the verse is this
just sounds like the tempo to acompletely different song.
Yeah right?
Sounds like a fast song, and Iput that in and I that's my
little reminder, you know.
(32:48):
Hey, this is a song I wrote,but you know, I'm a nerd, uh and
I like these things.
Dr. Pelè (32:57):
You know, speaking of being a nerd, I I I just have to
I just have to throw this inbecause you mentioned how some
people spit out songs fast,lyrics, and you spit out music
fast.
And uh are you into AI thesedays?
Have you kind of checked outany of that?
Like swoon too.
Dave Scher (33:15):
I have um I have been frightened of it.
And the only thing I've used AIfor so far is it's it's very
it's a very minute thing.
It's just been putting togetheruh playlists for background
music when I'm supposed toprovide background music in
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between sets at a private eventor something like that.
That's about it.
But I I I know that I could useit for a writing tool, I know I
could use it for a lot ofadministrative stuff, like a
biography or even stuff just forme to not share, like a to-do
list, uh a goal list kind ofthing, like uh what do they call
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it, a virtual assistant?
Dr. Pelè (34:00):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I I use it for all of thosethings.
And the the thing about musicis that I I tell you, man,
nowadays you click a button, youget a song.
I mean, you could you put input in an idea in and you can
get a song back.
It kind of it waters down thejoy of creativity for me.
Okay, but it but it'sdefinitely a a possibility,
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yeah.
Dave Scher (34:24):
And you know, I would I do want to say this is a
it's not really about allright, but in in music and and
being a musician and being amusician in this day and age,
along with a tool like AI.
Dr. Pelè (34:42):
Yeah.
Dave Scher (34:43):
A lot of musicians my age or older uh will uh uh
turn their nose up at AI.
And I and in some respects I doas well.
Dr. Pelè (34:56):
But you didn't.
Well, actually, I was gonnacomment on that.
You're not one of those I hateAI, you know.
Dave Scher (35:02):
I'm a little frightened of it, but I don't
hate it.
I don't hate it.
I will say that uh some thingsaren't uh as uh fruitful as they
used to be, like um studiosession work, you know, being a
recording engineer and andhaving this isn't this isn't
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necessarily AI, but I meantechnology in the recording
field has advanced so much thatyeah, it's not always worth
spending the money to have a uhskilled engineer run everything
you're doing throughmulti-thousand dollar
microphones, through incredibletransparent preamps, and then
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converting it to ones and zerosin the most musical and and
crystal clear way.
When there's so many recordingat home things, uh tools
available that are for thefraction of the price, and you
know, anyone can kind of be anengineer in a way.
Yep.
Uh but for anyone who is kindof like frightened of AI like I
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am, or you know, was, um Ireally don't see how it could
ever replace live performance.
Dr. Pelè (36:23):
It can't.
That's that's the one, that'sthe end right there.
Yeah, that's that's it.
Dave Scher (36:28):
And I think we have we we win at the moment.
We win, yeah, yeah.
And I think everybody who lovesAI to the nth degree and also
loves going out to see a band,they are never going to be
satisfied with any kind ofinanimate live music
performance.
Yeah, they're never gonna besatisfied or be able to connect
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with it.
And I think they're ever Ithink everyone's gonna always be
able to recognize that theycan't do that.
Dr. Pelè (36:56):
Yeah.
Dave Scher (36:57):
I think being a live performer will always be
available.
Dr. Pelè (37:01):
Yeah, and you you say it with such humility, Dave.
I I have to tell you, I'm gonnaactually put some links to some
other videos of you live.
I'm telling you, dude, like theyour fluidity on your
instruments is insane.
Oh, and and and for people, andand and the voice, the vocals,
all the things that you'redoing, you can't do that with a
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computer.
I mean, come on.
It's like you know, it doesn'twork.
But um, you know, to everyonelistening right now, I want to
encourage you, go find DaveCherry's music.
Now, Dave, did you say thissong, all right, is is already
out there.
So this particular one isalready out there, they can find
it.
Dave Scher (37:39):
It's not, but it it will be uh this kind of you know
26.
Dr. Pelè (37:45):
Okay, it will be it will be soon.
So but go find Dave Cherry'smusic, check out his latest
stuff, check out his liveperformances, and go to that.
Where's the gig that you areperforming right now, the
regular one?
Dave Scher (37:57):
Uh come out and have a steak at Eddie V's.
At Eddie V's or some oysters.
Dr. Pelè (38:03):
All right.
I just want to encourage you togo check out Dave.
This is a man of heart, uh,humility, and he's looking for
happiness in the things he he'sdoing, which is something that I
really resonate with.
Um, this has been Songs andStories from the Soul.
Thank you, Dave.
I appreciate you being here.
Dave Scher (38:21):
Thank you.
Dr. Pelè (38:22):
All right, we'll talk again soon.
Dave Scher (38:24):
Sounds good.
Welcome to Songs and Stories from the Soul, where
every melody carries a message,and songwriters share the faith,
the heart, and the story thatshape their song.
Welcome to Songs and Storiesfrom the Soul.
I'm your host, Dr.
Pillet, and today we are joinedby one of Austin's most gifted
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musicians.
And I say that with a lot ofrespect, a lot of love.
I've seen him perform.
I've listened to his records.
He's a guitarist, he's asinger, and he's a bass player,
he's a drummer, he's a keyboardplayer.
Got me more to add to him.
But most of it- but mostimportantly, he is a singer,
songwriter, storyteller whosesound embodies, I think, uh,
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this is my opinion, really whatI might call the heart of Texas
soul.
And I just gave you somethingto think about there.
His name is Dave Sherry.
Dave, how are you doing today?
Dave Scher (00:57):
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
Thank you for having me on theshow.
Dr. Pelè (01:01):
Awesome, awesome.
You know what?
As we always do, I'd love tolisten to the song together with
you.
And then on the other side, Ihave a whole bunch of questions
to ask you about the song AllRight.
Dave Scher (01:12):
All right.
Dr. Pelè (01:14):
All right, let's check it out.
Dave Scher (01:46):
Nobody around for mouth, I think I'll take a walk.
Nobody stops my foot mark onthe baby time to wear this.
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I don't mind so much baby roadtrip up it.
Dr. Pelè (05:31):
Wow.
So, you know, I I have to say,I've I've heard you do blues,
funk, even some country.
Literally, you play it all.
And and in fact, I saidsomething to you yesterday,
Dave, about how I would compareyou to Prince.
And and you were you were like,well, nobody's ever said that.
Well, you know why I would saythat?
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I grew up in Minneapolis.
Um I spent 30-some years uh inMinneapolis.
I played with a bunch of theguys that Prince played with.
I recorded with folks that herecorded.
I was in a band with folks thathe played with.
So I know him well.
I just never actually playedwith him, but I know him well
and I know that thing, andyou've got that thing.
Um thank you.
Wow.
Dave Scher (06:11):
Yeah, very special.
Appreciate that.
Dr. Pelè (06:14):
Yeah.
So let's let's unpack uh alittle bit about you and a
little bit about the song, andlet's weave it all together.
First of all, uh, where wereyou when you wrote this song?
It it it just seems like such aif I could use the word heavy,
heavy, really, really likeletting go kind of a song.
Where were you emotionally whenyou wrote this song?
Dave Scher (06:36):
I'm trying to think.
I'm I'm not sure where I was inin life or or in my head.
I I sometimes I sometimes I canuh be in a completely content
place in in life and think tomyself, I'd like to write a
heavy song.
And I'll go there and I'll beable to pull from different
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times in my life that uh youknow, because I mean sometimes
I'll write a breakup song abouta breakup that happened six
years ago.
And I'm and I'm very much overthe breakup, you know, but but
uh but it w I I just wasn't ableto uh go there as far as
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songwriting at the time.
And when I was able to gothere, I had memories and and
experiences, past experiences topull from.
Dr. Pelè (07:34):
Yeah.
Dave Scher (07:35):
You know, so I don't know where I was with this
song.
It might have it might havebeen, you know, I might have
been uh like in the thick of it.
But uh I'm not sure.
I I do know that uh because Idon't know exactly if there's an
actual character or like youknow, like a uh like a uh
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non-fictional time that that putme in this place.
Uh so to speak.
But uh I uh I I I can'tremember if if it was something
where where I was pulling fromyou know, this was coming out
live, yeah, you know, in realtime, or if I was pulling from
memories.
But yeah, uh I it is uh it'sit's definitely it's still a
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familiar feeling.
It it wasn't completely madeup, you know.
Dr. Pelè (08:24):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, it's funnybecause even if you can't
remember exactly where you were,the song was talking about
where you want to go.
For example, the one of thefirst opening lines, you go,
nobody around for miles.
Um, I think I'll take a walk.
You know, I mean, you'repainting such a vivid picture of
solitude.
You know, it's like you want togo somewhere, and and you're
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like, you know what?
All right.
Right.
It's like you've got your mindmade up.
You know, tell us a little bitabout the lyrics.
Let's get into the into sort ofthat content.
What did you mean by you thinkyou'll just take a walk?
Were you alone?
Uh or was being alone part ofhow this song was born?
Was there something to do witha breakup, uh leaving of
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somewhere to go somewhere else?
What was that that all about?
Dave Scher (09:12):
Uh, I think we all come to come to times in our
lives where we uh sort ofquestion who we are as far as
what what makes us special, asfar as you know, our
communication skills, or do ouris everybody we're uh
surrounding ourselves withliking us all the time?
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Or you know, do we frustrateour peers with the way that we
do things?
And you know, if we do, wecertainly don't mean it because
it's just the way we are.
And I'm I'm I'm this is uhafter this song was written, the
song is not a very new song,uh, and still to this day I'm
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I'm uh every day kind of uhfiguring more and more out about
who I am and what what how Icommunicate and how you know the
things that make me uh thethings that make me
self-conscious.
And uh I don't know, mycommunication skills are I've
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always thought they need work.
I've always thought that my myway with words is is not great.
And there are lots of friendsof mine that claim to disagree
with that.
But uh I I mean I listen to alot of these kind of Zoom
interviews back.
I listen back and I alwaysthink, why is it?
Why is it taking me so long toanswer?
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Why is it taking me so long tothink of the word and I'm so bad
at thinking of the right word,you know, and I want it to be
the right word, so it takes me aminute and it frustrates me.
And other aspects of that, theway I communicate can be
long-winded.
And uh I was at a I think I wasat a I must have been when
writing it this song, I musthave been at a place where I was
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fed up with being sorry for uhhow I am as a person to
communicate with, and if I takemy time, so be it.
And uh I'll just I'm just gonnalove me for who I am because
other people do as well, andI'll just surround myself with
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those people.
Wow You know?
And uh the the taking a walk.
Nobody around for miles.
I think I'll take a walk.
It's kind of a I guess that wasa uh accepting and uh who I am,
accepting who I am, and uhdeciding to slowly move on with
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that, put one foot in front ofthe other and just be okay with
that, with who I am and not beapologetic, you know.
Dr. Pelè (11:59):
You know, when I when I listen to you, uh we even when
I I look at you as you speak,I'm hearing an artist through
and through.
You know, so some people areyou know just technical
musicians, like they they justthey can do whatever, you know,
whatever they need to get donemusically, they'll do it.
Dave Scher (12:18):
Right.
Dr. Pelè (12:18):
But some people like you are artists.
Like it is it is your body, itis your heart, it's blood, it's
sweat, it's truth.
Um, I'm literally hearing youdescribe your your your deepest
truth almost in a vulnerableway.
Normal, normal musicians whoaren't artists don't go there.
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You you really go there.
You really go there.
Dave Scher (12:42):
I'm starting to go there.
This is not this is a newthing, you know.
Dr. Pelè (12:45):
Oh, really?
That's interesting.
That's interesting.
Dave Scher (12:48):
Because I I'm a I'm a technical player also, and
I've been that before I was asongwriter, and I've had that
that those traits of of uh beingclosed, you know, you know, not
being such an open book, andI'm learning that you know
that's what people like, whetherthey think you're too much or
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not, they like that about you.
They like when you're when youshare.
Dr. Pelè (13:12):
Yeah, they want to they want to hear who you are
and stuff.
In this in this chorus, yousay, I'm alright with that, I
know where I'm at.
To me, it feels like like peaceuh after the storm, um you
know, or something, like troubleand bad grammar.
But you know, it'sconversational, it works.
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So what was that what was thatphrase?
Since it's such a central pointof the song, all right.
What would what does thatphrase mean to you personally?
That that that you know whereyou're at?
It's like peace after thestorm.
What is all that?
Dave Scher (13:48):
That's exactly it.
I know where I'm at and peace.
I'm pe I'm at peace with it,and and and I'm alright with all
of these things that I am, allof these things, all of these
things that I've done, or all ofthe ways that I've made people
feel, whether it's good or bad,um, no regrets.
I'm alright with that.
Yeah, you know, everythinghappens for a reason, everything
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I do, everything we all dohappens for a reason.
Yeah you know it's just uh it'sjust uh an acceptance sort of
thing of and and and being atpeace with yeah yeah.
Dr. Pelè (14:25):
I I wrote a song once uh called Let Go.
Um and uh it's it's saying thatkind of a message.
I I'm now finally ready to justlet go.
I actually wrote another songlater called Let Go Let God,
which is like a different kindof yeah, a different kind of
letting go.
So I'm totally there with you.
Now, one more question aboutthe lyrics, it's kind of a fun
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thing.
Yeah, you talk about a 79Corvette, okay.
Like I'm just I got I got theseimages in my mind.
I'm looking around like, okay,what do you mean by that?
What does that mean to you?
Dave Scher (15:00):
That was just, I mean, I am a bit of a car buff.
Uh, and uh that's not that'snot my favorite year or
anything.
That's not my favorite year ofuh I think I think the stingray
was still going on and still 79.
I could be wrong.
I thought it was until 80 or81, but um it's not my favorite
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year.
It's just it's just at thatpoint you have an idea and uh
and and you want to convey theidea, maybe not the exact uh
word year, but uh, but thathappens to be the best thing to
roll off the tongue.
You know, in my opinion, itwouldn't have worked to to say
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uh you know 64 Roadster.
Yeah, yeah or whatever.
Dr. Pelè (15:49):
No, I I I I hear you.
You know, we we've talked a lotabout um this particular song,
but I want to switch gears andtalk about you a little bit in
terms of uh what you do as amusician.
Now you've played for some veryuh top names.
You've played for yourself,you've had a rotation uh in
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Austin, you've done lots ofthings.
Give me give us a sense of kindof what you what you're doing
musically nowadays, um you know,with your career.
Dave Scher (16:20):
Well, I'm probably playing between five and seven
nights a week, and a lot oftimes doubling up.
It's becoming more and morepopular to have a live band play
an event at 2 p.m.
And so I'm able to do somethinglike that and and be available
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for something in at night at ain a club.
Dr. Pelè (16:44):
Yeah.
Dave Scher (16:44):
And uh so I'm working all the time.
I don't do a whole lot ofpracticing at home, yet my hands
are always hot, they're alwayswarmed up and ready because I'm
I'm blessed.
I'm very fortunate to be uh myphone is ringing all the time.
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And I can fill my calendar upwith work if I want to, and I'm
and the as of now, I'm I'm uh asof late, I'm I'm just now kinda
learning how to say no and fillmy calendar up with uh only
things that make me happy.
And that's a process becauseI've been I've made myself a pr
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a promise a couple years ago todo one thing, and that was to
stop uh leading bands forweddings.
And I did that.
And at first I took a big oldfinancial hit.
Dr. Pelè (17:47):
Yeah.
Dave Scher (17:48):
Uh but my sanity was all there.
I was happy again, or I was onmy way to being happy again, and
I kept playing weddings, but Iwould go play guitar with a band
and show up, you know, tenminutes before sound check and
leave two minutes after theconclusion of the event and have
no other responsibility than toshow up, play, be a good guy,
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and leave.
Yeah, and it and that's andthat did not take a hit on my
sanity.
It was the other stuff whereyou're in direct communication
with um not the band.
Dr. Pelè (18:23):
Yeah, yeah.
Dave Scher (18:24):
So I bought I made that promise to myself a while
ago, and I've been doing reallywell on that.
And other little things hereand there to to whittle it down
to only things that make mehappy.
Yeah.
And I'm I'm I'm pretty muchthere.
Every now and then I still todo some things that uh they're
just they don't make me unhappy.
They're just maybe not theeasiest gig in the world, but
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you know, maybe it it'sfinancially rewarding.
Yeah.
But but I I'm I'm busy all thetime, and it's never really with
my with something that's undermy own name.
The only consistent thing I'vegot going on right now is really
kind of nice.
I like it.
It's Eddie V's, it's a Sunday.
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So it's a nice restaurant.
It's a not terribly popularweek, day of the week.
Uh I sit at a real acoustic sixfoot one grand piano.
Dr. Pelè (19:26):
Wow.
Dave Scher (19:27):
With a trio.
There's a house drum kit and abass player.
I sit at the piano bench with aguitar and play piano and sing.
I have all this these resourcesat my literal fingertips.
And you know, I stretch out andtry new things.
I try different cover songs,get my phone out and look up the
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lyrics to something I've nevertried before, and it's not a big
deal because it's a restaurantand people didn't per purchase
tickets to see me.
Dr. Pelè (19:58):
Yeah.
Dave Scher (20:00):
So it's a nice little way of shedding and and
trying new things and gettingready for whatever ticketed
event I have.
It's like once a month orsometimes twice.
But other than that, I am aguitar player and a bass player,
um, sometimes keys, every nowand then drums for all sorts of
artists or all sorts of coverbands.
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And I'm just I I'm a little bitof a workaholic.
I also um have a studio at myhouse and I I send tracks to
people who want maybe a solo onon their track that don't live
in Austin or anything.
And I'd like to do that morethan honestly.
But I don't I haven't I've beentrying to write more and I'd
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like to write more than I havebeen, but I've been doing better
than I have in the past, andand I've been working on new
music.
But my solo career, my brand,my as an artist, uh I have not
stopped working on that, but Ihave been working slowly.
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You know, it's it has notreally been bringing me any
revenue.
It's been costing me money.
Because I've been going to thestudio.
I don't know, I don't I mean,sometimes I don't want to record
at my house.
Sometimes I want to go to s outof my house.
Dr. Pelè (21:23):
Yeah.
Dave Scher (21:24):
And if it's gonna be my music that I'm going to
record, maybe being in a certainheadspace is so much more
important than it than I need tobe for someone else's music.
Yeah.
So I think it's worth it to getinto another studio.
And I've been doing that, andit's you know, you know, exp
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recording is expensive.
Yeah.
Uh if you're not recording athome.
And it's just my career is issomething I've I've just little
by little investing in, but Idon't do it every day like um
like a lot of the people I Iplay me I play guitar or bass
for you.
Yeah.
A lot of them are at it everyday, and that's not me yet, you
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know?
Dr. Pelè (22:06):
Yeah, well, if you ever uh want to find a different
studio to to jam at, just comeon over.
Come to Casapella.
My studio upstairs is gonna bejust fine.
Dave Scher (22:16):
Oh, yeah.
I know you got a good setup.
I gotta keep my.
Dr. Pelè (22:19):
You know, one thing I wanted to say is that you know,
you talk about doing the thingsthat make you happy.
And and as I listen to you, Ifeel some of the pain of a true
artist.
You know, we want to focus onour art, we want to create,
write our songs, but thenthere's this huge big thing out
there called the music business.
Dave Scher (22:41):
And it's like I don't like it at all.
Dr. Pelè (22:46):
Like, like, can somebody else please please do
this stuff for us?
And that would be great.
You call yourself your mymanager, call yourself whatever
whatever you want to callyourself, just do it.
How have you I've seen you onFacebook?
Um were you on tour with uh Ithink Eric Johnson?
Dave Scher (23:05):
Yes.
Dr. Pelè (23:06):
For a long time, and that was when you were hardest
to reach, by the way.
Because you're you're hard toyou're hard to reach, but at
that point, it's like I had towait weeks and months just to
get it.
Dave Scher (23:17):
I know, right?
Dr. Pelè (23:17):
Yeah, but but you know how has how has the changing
music business affected the wayyou feel about music?
Obviously, you live for music.
You you you literally wake upand you do music all the time.
You love this thing with apassion.
I mean, the business kills itfor a lot of people.
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How how what's your perspectiveon that topic?
Dave Scher (23:43):
It is still slowly killing me.
But but I don't think, and thisI don't know, this might sound
like a sad or untrue thing tosay about myself, but I don't
think I'm really good atanything else.
Or shall I say, I I don't thinkI could be happy doing anything
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else.
I've wanted to do this since Iwas I mean, I pick up the guitar
at 10 and if it wasn't rightthen and there, it must I might
have been twelve.
At the latest is when I at thelatest when I figured out.
And I never knew something sosure as a as a as a child.
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I figured out then and therewhat I wanted to do for the rest
of my life.
Dr. Pelè (24:31):
Wow.
Dave Scher (24:31):
It's still evident.
I don't think for one secondabout this career of mine, like,
oh, what was I thinking as a12-year-old?
No, that I've I've I've alwaysfelt this way.
And I don't think I could maybeI could be wrong, you never
know, but I don't think I couldbe happy doing anything else.
So it has helped me uh it hashelped me take on each challenge
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of the ever-changing musicbusiness, the way that uh people
who want to have a band fortheir event, how they are, how
they uh are to deal with, andhow you know, maybe you are the
one maybe you are theprofessional and and you wish
that you the that you couldoffer some more consulting for
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them, but they're not reallyinterested because they they're
they are um convinced they knowmore about what they want than
than you do.
Uh challenges like that where alot of people who are like, you
know, they play music and andthey do love it, but they could
they could be happy being anauto mechanic or getting or
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getting into contracting or HVACor you know there's always this
little way out of well then Idon't really have to deal with
this.
And I've always thought I haveto deal with this one way or
another, and it's made me beoptimistic and it's made me be
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patient.
It has tried my patience.
Um and uh but it but I'velearned a lot.
I've learned a lot about myselfand and and how I not just how
I am as a person, but but whatmy capabilities are as a as a
patient person and as a someonewho learns new things and
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someone who learns how tocommunicate, to be to always be
on someone's good side, youknow, and not feel like you're
selling yourself short.
Yeah, yeah.
So because this is all I wantto do, I've made myself um be
very accepting of the thing Icannot change, which is the
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ever-changing music businessfrom all aspects, you know.
It's it's frustrating, but attimes.
But it's also an opportunity uhan opportunity to learn, and I
think a lot of artists could uhcould view it that way, could
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could benefit from viewing itthat way, where it's always an
opportunity to learn, even ifit's not something you're liking
at all, you know.
Dr. Pelè (27:24):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, you you'veyou've uh obviously made peace
with the music industry.
Um you've done all aspects ofof music, you've done teaching,
uh, you've done uh theperforming, you've done
songwriting, uh, you've donemarketing of yourself.
As I said, I've seen you indifferent venues, your website.
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But but getting back to sort ofthe sense of songwriting and
this particular song, if someoneout there is listening to you,
getting to know you a little bitas a person, obviously they can
see your heart, very, verytransparent.
Um what do you think a songlike Alright and the letting go
(28:06):
process, the being at peaceprocess that the song talks
about?
What do you think what do youthink you could leave in
someone's heart?
What do you hope this song doesfor the listeners?
Dave Scher (28:18):
The same thing that uh it did for me, the same thing
that I the same way that I feltwhen I was putting this song
together, uh to be not justcontent with yourself, but
thrilled with yourself.
Because um you say it in manyof your songs, and it's it's
(28:40):
it's the most powerful thing islove, and you need to employ
that on yourself.
Yeah, it is absolutelyimperative that we do that, that
we love ourselves.
Yes, it's imperative that wespread love.
It has to happen.
We have to spread love, but wedo have to love ourselves.
(29:02):
We do, and and uh sometimes wedon't, and we're just going
through something.
And at some point you just trythings and something's gotta
give, and eventually you you'reit has to come to the conclusion
of you know, that's okay.
I am who I am, I love who I am.
(29:22):
Yeah, you know, and that's whatI hope someone can take from
that message.
Dr. Pelè (29:30):
You know, and I hope that they take it not just from
that message, but from your bodyof work, your presence.
And by the way, anyonelistening, you probably noticed
he just said that my songs do acertain thing.
Well, that's because he'splayed on three of them.
Dave Scher (29:45):
Um I'm not biased though, I promise.
Dr. Pelè (29:48):
He so so you you actually know that I'm about
these kinds of heartfelt storiesand and love and and
connection, and I really believethat that's important.
So obviously, I'm a Fan of yourkind of music and and all that
stuff.
You know, in closing, I justwant to go back a little bit to
thank you, first of all, forsharing your heart, uh, your
(30:10):
song, of course, your story.
Um, you know, your your yourjourney reminds me anyway that
peace isn't about everythingbeing perfect.
Um it's about knowing wherewe're at uh and being all right
with that.
And that's what this song says.
I'm gonna give you the lastword.
Um how how how do you feelabout just the last word
(30:35):
regarding this amazing song?
Um, and thank you for beinghere to share it.
Go for it.
Dave Scher (30:41):
The last word for this song?
Dr. Pelè (30:43):
Yes.
Or for anything else you wantto say, by the way.
You got the last word.
Dave Scher (30:47):
Well, uh, I don't know how interesting it'll be,
but uh I am uh I've I still am atype of person who is believes
that they're not great withwords.
I think I think my lyricsaren't too bad, they're not too
shabby, but they don't comenaturally, and it takes me a
while to think of them and tomake them feel right, rolling
(31:10):
off the tongue.
I don't have that same problemwith um instrumentation.
I don't have that same problemwith arranging harmony, rhythm,
melody into something on thefly, the way that some
incredible songwriters can justspit poetry like that.
(31:31):
Yeah.
Um so there's a little bit of anod to that in in all right.
Um and uh there's a there's amusical term um known as uh
himiola, which is uh it's it'scut it's basically like two
(31:54):
rhythms going on simultaneously,and at some point they meet
back up on the same one, on thesame downbeat.
And I'm doing that, I employthat in each verse of the song.
You know, the and the the wholesong is and I sing so uh you
(32:26):
know if I if I clapped what I'msinging in the verse is this
just sounds like the tempo to acompletely different song.
Yeah right?
Sounds like a fast song, and Iput that in and I that's my
little reminder, you know.
(32:48):
Hey, this is a song I wrote,but you know, I'm a nerd, uh and
I like these things.
Dr. Pelè (32:57):
You know, speaking of being a nerd, I I I just have to
I just have to throw this inbecause you mentioned how some
people spit out songs fast,lyrics, and you spit out music
fast.
And uh are you into AI thesedays?
Have you kind of checked outany of that?
Like swoon too.
Dave Scher (33:15):
I have um I have been frightened of it.
And the only thing I've used AIfor so far is it's it's very
it's a very minute thing.
It's just been putting togetheruh playlists for background
music when I'm supposed toprovide background music in
(33:35):
between sets at a private eventor something like that.
That's about it.
But I I I know that I could useit for a writing tool, I know I
could use it for a lot ofadministrative stuff, like a
biography or even stuff just forme to not share, like a to-do
list, uh a goal list kind ofthing, like uh what do they call
(33:58):
it, a virtual assistant?
Dr. Pelè (34:00):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I I use it for all of thosethings.
And the the thing about musicis that I I tell you, man,
nowadays you click a button, youget a song.
I mean, you could you put input in an idea in and you can
get a song back.
It kind of it waters down thejoy of creativity for me.
Okay, but it but it'sdefinitely a a possibility,
(34:24):
yeah.
Dave Scher (34:24):
And you know, I would I do want to say this is a
it's not really about allright, but in in music and and
being a musician and being amusician in this day and age,
along with a tool like AI.
Dr. Pelè (34:42):
Yeah.
Dave Scher (34:43):
A lot of musicians my age or older uh will uh uh
turn their nose up at AI.
And I and in some respects I doas well.
Dr. Pelè (34:56):
But you didn't.
Well, actually, I was gonnacomment on that.
You're not one of those I hateAI, you know.
Dave Scher (35:02):
I'm a little frightened of it, but I don't
hate it.
I don't hate it.
I will say that uh some thingsaren't uh as uh fruitful as they
used to be, like um studiosession work, you know, being a
recording engineer and andhaving this isn't this isn't
(35:22):
necessarily AI, but I meantechnology in the recording
field has advanced so much thatyeah, it's not always worth
spending the money to have a uhskilled engineer run everything
you're doing throughmulti-thousand dollar
microphones, through incredibletransparent preamps, and then
(35:44):
converting it to ones and zerosin the most musical and and
crystal clear way.
When there's so many recordingat home things, uh tools
available that are for thefraction of the price, and you
know, anyone can kind of be anengineer in a way.
Yep.
Uh but for anyone who is kindof like frightened of AI like I
(36:12):
am, or you know, was, um Ireally don't see how it could
ever replace live performance.
Dr. Pelè (36:23):
It can't.
That's that's the one, that'sthe end right there.
Yeah, that's that's it.
Dave Scher (36:28):
And I think we have we we win at the moment.
We win, yeah, yeah.
And I think everybody who lovesAI to the nth degree and also
loves going out to see a band,they are never going to be
satisfied with any kind ofinanimate live music
performance.
Yeah, they're never gonna besatisfied or be able to connect
(36:50):
with it.
And I think they're ever Ithink everyone's gonna always be
able to recognize that theycan't do that.
Dr. Pelè (36:56):
Yeah.
Dave Scher (36:57):
I think being a live performer will always be
available.
Dr. Pelè (37:01):
Yeah, and you you say it with such humility, Dave.
I I have to tell you, I'm gonnaactually put some links to some
other videos of you live.
I'm telling you, dude, like theyour fluidity on your
instruments is insane.
Oh, and and and for people, andand and the voice, the vocals,
all the things that you'redoing, you can't do that with a
(37:23):
computer.
I mean, come on.
It's like you know, it doesn'twork.
But um, you know, to everyonelistening right now, I want to
encourage you, go find DaveCherry's music.
Now, Dave, did you say thissong, all right, is is already
out there.
So this particular one isalready out there, they can find
it.
Dave Scher (37:39):
It's not, but it it will be uh this kind of you know
26.
Dr. Pelè (37:45):
Okay, it will be it will be soon.
So but go find Dave Cherry'smusic, check out his latest
stuff, check out his liveperformances, and go to that.
Where's the gig that you areperforming right now, the
regular one?
Dave Scher (37:57):
Uh come out and have a steak at Eddie V's.
At Eddie V's or some oysters.
Dr. Pelè (38:03):
All right.
I just want to encourage you togo check out Dave.
This is a man of heart, uh,humility, and he's looking for
happiness in the things he he'sdoing, which is something that I
really resonate with.
Um, this has been Songs andStories from the Soul.
Thank you, Dave.
I appreciate you being here.
Dave Scher (38:21):
Thank you.
Dr. Pelè (38:22):
All right, we'll talk again soon.
Dave Scher (38:24):
Sounds good.
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