The Seven Stages: Decoding Disease & Self-Healing

In this episode of Soul Decodes, a profound discussion between Dr. Tia Jolie Phillips and Sarah Tirri takes place as they explore the nature of disease, healing, and personal sovereignty. The conversation centers on Dr. Phillips' holistic approach to health, particularly focusing on the seven stages of disease development.

The episode begins with a personal story about Sarah's sister-in-law Sallie, who recently passed from cancer. This leads into a deeper exploration of how fear, particularly fear of death, can impact healing outcomes. The women emphasize that our 'mindset' and 'beliefs' significantly influence our health journey.

Dr. Phillips introduces her "Seven Stages of Disease" framework:

1. Innervation (nerve-related disturbances)
2. Toxemia (accumulation of toxins)
3. Irritation (body's response to toxins)
4. Inflammation (often accompanied by pain)
5. Ulceration (tissue breakdown)
6. Induration (body's attempt to contain toxins)
7. Cancer (cells losing their original identity)

A key revelation is that cancer isn't something you "catch" or "inherit" but rather the end result of a long process of cellular distress. Dr. Phillips challenges conventional medical approaches, particularly the practice of biopsies, suggesting they can sometimes spread contained toxins. Sarah responds with concern, noting her mother's brain cancer was exacerbated by a routine biopsy.

Dr. Phillips explains that the first six stages are completely reversible, often within days or weeks with proper intervention. Even at stage seven (cancer), recovery is possible if cells still "remember" their original function. She shares success stories, including a remarkable case of natural breast cancer healing where a patient's body successfully ejected toxins.

Throughout the discussion, Dr. Phillips emphasizes sovereignty and personal choice in healing. She explains that our bodies have innate wisdom, creating capsules around toxins (tumors) as a protective mechanism. Rather than disrupting these natural processes through invasive procedures, she advocates supporting the body's own healing intelligence.

The hosts weave broader philosophical concepts about divine sovereignty and the relationship between mind and body. They emphasize the importance of questioning standard medical narratives and understanding that many diseases like Type 2 diabetes are "earned" through lifestyle choices rather than inherited. The episode concludes with both women affirming the power of proper thinking and belief in determining health outcomes, while acknowledging that some life journeys may include disease as part of a greater purpose.

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Welcome to Soul Decodes. Join us as we wander off the path to find the ideas that fascinate. We talk about spirituality, the mind, the ego, wellness and hidden history with tips, travels and tales. Charms for a better life.

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It's a beautiful day on Phillips Island. Welcome everybody. My name is Dr. Tia Jolie Phillips and you're listening to Soul Decodes. I'm with Sarah Teary.
She's the founder of the Church of Light Ages. We're going to talk more about that in the near future.
Thank you to all of you who are sharing our work with other people. We're getting some really positive feedback. We're bringing on new countries. It's so exciting. So welcome, Sarah.

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Thank you. Glad to be here.
What's on your mind today?
I'm a little bit. It's a continuation from one we did recently and it's with regards to cancer. So my sister-in-law died of cancer.
And I think it's important to understand what cancer could be and what it's not. And we'll go through your seven stages shortly.

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Sally's mum died of cancer, the same cancer when she was 62. And so genetically that was, you're going to need to comment on that. That was in her system apparently. So that was something I wish the doctors hadn't said to her.
She didn't want to know that she had cancer. She didn't want to know the depth of it. So when she found out a few weeks after being with me and for Christmas a few years ago,

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she didn't want to know anything other than that she had cancer and she was able to get better. And she left the consulting room, left my brother there.
And then my brother actually had to burden the reality, which was that she did have this horrible cancer in her lungs. It had gone all throughout her body. It was in her spleen, in her liver and everywhere.

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And Sally couldn't deal with knowing what the truth was because she was terrified of dying, absolutely crippled by that. She also knew that she could cope.
Well, let's say she knew that she couldn't cope with knowing what the reality could be. So she decided that she didn't want to know. She did everything to try and get better.

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She didn't smoke, never smoked. She did a bit of LSD in the 70s, but she was a beautiful chef. She cooked lovely meals. She exercised, rode her bike.
She did everything that you would expect someone to do if they knew they had cancer and if they wanted to fight it. And she didn't fight it. She did for two and a half years.
And then she passed on. And that was two months ago. So when you when you pass on from something that could be in your life plan, that could be that there is no fighting this.

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Now, you can do your valiant to make a valiant attempt to fight it. But it could have been that Sally had 65 years and she didn't have any more.
And I don't know. I don't think there's anything she did wrong. Having the fear of dying, though, was because she had a fear.
She actually carried a lot of fear. She had a fear of height. She had a lot of fear going on. Fear about the nature of reality, how capricious it was, how unpredictable it was.

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And Sally, although I had quite an entrenched belief system, which I shared with her, and she understood a lot of it, she never had a belief system that she was always on a constant
shifting deck because she couldn't anchor to a belief system because she just didn't. She dread so much, taken in so much. All she did was write poetry about it.
So maybe you don't get over cancer. Maybe it's something you do fight and it's in your life plan and you had to fight it in order to become someone new.

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So we don't know why we choose these type of variations in our life. And we see it as, ah, terrible, this scourge. But maybe it's all just part of the plan.
I love your perspective because so many things that you bring up kind of dovetail my thoughts, but they're still divergent enough where it commands exploration, which is very cool.

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So what questions do we have? OK, the seven stages of cancer. I think we should do it in reverse for some reason.
OK, so before we go there, let me address some of the things that you brought up just now with respect to Sally. My mom passed with cancer.
I want to have this conversation about what cancer is. And this is again, this is why people share these episodes, because there's a lot of information out there that is very confusing and people just don't get it.

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But, um, but I want my goal is to not answer questions, but to teach you how to ask questions.
So within that construct, I want to proceed. But my intention is to not give you answers. I'm going to give you my perspectives.
And let you let that form the basis of your questions. And, you know, there used to be a day where we were children.

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It was never go talk to the expert because that's the one answer that's correct for everybody all the time in all circumstances.
Well, no, that's not. Everyone's different. You say that the church would say, come to me. We have all the answers because we're the best. We're perfect.
We're speaking on behalf of the God. Right. Yeah, we're speaking on behalf of God.
And our interpretation is the right one. But medical doctors are no different. Really, a lot of them. Some of them are becoming enlightened and some of them know they have some blind spots.

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And that's great. But what I want to share is that I want to share with you because I talked to I have so many people coming my way since November 1st.
So what's that? Three months. There's a three month window. I had seven people approach me with stage four cancers. Some of them are inoperable.
Some of them want to avoid the medical system because medical system has scalpels, radiation and chemicals. Yeah, that's what Sally got. That's it.

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They don't have anything. I've got infinite. So what I put out there is the infinite. If you need to go to those three things, then we'll have a conversation about that.
But in all seven circumstances, all of those people are trending better. That's great. So this is not me. This is just me teaching them to ask better questions.

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So this is the reason one of the reasons I believe they're doing better is because their mindset is better.
Ah, that's the number one thing I do is when they come to talk to me, I ask, who are you and why are you here?
And he said, well, like I put on my intake form because there's like a 10, 10 minute just real quick question.
The best thing you could ask. It's like, who are you and why are you here?

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Well, I told you I've, you know, cancer, my brain cancer, it's touching both optic nerves and they can't operate and all this stuff.
It's like, OK, no problem. But that's not what I'm asking. This is your body.
You're answering to me as if we're talking about your body. Yeah. I'm saying, who are you spiritually and why are you here?
So you automatically ask them to divide yourself. Yeah. It's like me. If my child's misbehaving, I divide the I separate the behavior from the character.

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God, I stick it in its crib for 24 hours. That works.
Well, I like if your child's misbehaving at the table, they're throwing food, whatever they're doing it. Kids do everything. I throw it back at them.
Kids do everything. I've gone to horrible food fights with my kids. Oh, you know what? I have too, actually.
But, you know, if they're doing something, then you address the behavior. You don't call them a stupid idiot.

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You say, you know what? You're a brilliant young man. You're such a such a beautiful girl with so smart.
Why would you do something like that? So you're separating the character from the behavior.
And I do that even now. Yeah. Somebody is behaving in a way that doesn't suit my expectation for them.
I'll say, you know, you're so brilliant in so many ways. Why would you do that?
So you have to flatter them first before you can sock it to them.

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Well, I mean, that's just a management principle. Yes. Yeah. It's just I call it the Oreo approach. Yeah.
Bring out the good. You put out the good. I like to go to the bad first. Fuck knowing what you're going to think about it.
You sell them something good and then you tell them, here's the bad. Yeah, you're a piece of shit.
And then it's like you're not a piece of shit, but you sure are acting like it. Yeah, yeah.

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So there's that. But the reason you know, you bring up a really important point and it dovetails with what I just shared.
These people, they come to me and they're fearful.
Like right after this right after this podcast, I have to go to meet a brand new person. Complete fear, complete fear.

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And, you know, cripples you totally crippled. Sadness, anger, depression, loneliness.
I mean, it's all of it all in once with one 10 minute phone call. I've never met her. One 10 minute phone call.
What I did was I said, look, your best days are just ahead of you if you want them.

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If you don't want them, if you're emotionally attached to your condition as it is right now.
And Cartole talked about the total identification with one's condition. If that's what you want, then I can't really do much for you.
That's what your ego wants. What does your spirit want? And I will I'll ask permission every step of the way. Nice.
I always ask permission, not from the person, but from the soul. Oh, interesting.
So I'll ask her, it's like, so why are and I'll say, why are you talking? Why are you calling me?

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What is your desired outcome? What do you want from me? To this night? This nightmare to end is what I can I help you?
And so they fill out their 10 minute questionnaire and it validates what they say on the phone.
If there's disparities, I'll ask them. But ultimately, if I agree to meet with them, they're in a position where they're wanting to move forward.
Now, to me, that's critical because yeah, because like you identified with Sally, if she's going to embrace the fear, if she's going to become subject to the fear, because remember, you would have killed her sooner, actually.

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Right. If you're going to become subject to the fear, subject to means that that that whatever that is ruling your life, it's ruling you. Yes, it's suffering now, isn't it?
Right. But I remind people that you're the sovereign one. You're the you're the child of an infinite divine creator or goddess.
You're the powerful one. You have a chance to control the outcome or at least delay it or influence it.

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Yes. Because knowing what I know now there are I know religious zealots will say there are there are absolutes.
But knowing what I know, no, no. Now, life as we know it and as life as we're entering during these next few years is probabilities.
Everything is probabilities. And when you study the science, you'll you'll get that. There's nothing certain.

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Even scientists that make observations, their observations, the whatever they're observing is biased by the fact that they're being observed.
That's right. So, yes. So even the the act of observing something bias is the outcome.
So fascinating. Yeah. So we have to be mindful that our minds are very, very powerful.

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But we also live in a world where there's some determinism, but there's free will. So there's nothing in stone.
Nothing's in stone. Right. Because my it's all probabilities.
It all is because I can make a decision for myself as a divine sovereign goddess. But my divine sovereignty ends where yours begins.

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So I can influence everything up to but not including. Yes. So other divine sovereign.
I've always had a problem with Christianity and this intercession. So the intercession means and I mean, you can take me to go for it.
Intercession means I'm going to pray for you that somehow my prayer is going to influence you in the way that I think you need to be influenced.
And I like fuck that intercession because it does end.

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I'm not going to influence or intercede on behalf of you because that's where I end and you begin.
I'm not going to influence that. And I think it's an arrogant thing to do. And it's full of pride.
Now, I can pray for you, pray that you're going to have a great afternoon and be your best self, but not intercede thinking that I'm interceding on God's behalf.

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I find it repugnant. Me too. You and I agree on that. I always ask the question, what is it that I can do for you?
Because I want them to direct me in a way that best serves them or that they think best serves them.
Now, if they answer me in a way that I perceive doesn't isn't in their service, I will query them. Oh, good. Yeah.
So I'll say, well, I hear you asking me to do this. You thought about it a little deeper. Can we explore that?

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But ultimately, I would never be able to do your job. But ultimately, I want to honor them as divine sovereign.
But my goal is to get them to come to their own conclusions. Have you ever showed up and met someone and you walked away 15 minutes later and you could not reach them and it was a closed matter?
Yes. Oh, really? Probably once every two years. Oh, OK. That's good. I think in the past 10 years, I've had five people.

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OK, that's good. Where in just a few minutes, I looked at them and I said, I said, I would like to help you.
But the thing is, I need your cooperation and it's not going to happen. And you tell them that. I told them that. Yeah.
Because I'm not going to waste my time. No, my time is my most precious thing. Yeah. Well, a second of my consciousness.
Yeah. But you do have a lot of time in that you're eternal. But I get what you're saying in the context of linear time here.

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I would flog a dead horse here. Well, look, they'll look at me confused and say, what do you mean?
I said, and I will literally tell them you have to suffer a little bit more. Oh, no, you have to suffer a little bit more before what I say to you makes sense.
That must infuriate them. I don't care. I don't care. Because you know what? I'm very playful.

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Well, here's the thing, Sarah, as we see it, I'd like you to make me angry.
You know where I was going. Your guitar playing sucks. All right. That's not going to do it.
But I mean, it's not going to work because I know better. Right. But the point is. So to make someone angry, then you end up having to insult something.
But even if you insult me. So why were they angry? So why were they so close? So let's talk about the interaction between sovereigns.

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Sarah's a divine sovereign. I'm a divine sovereign. How foolish would it be if I'm sitting there and my dog just got ran over by I don't have a dog.
But let's say I got plastered by a bulldozer. It's just pancake. OK. And I'm sitting there bawling my eyes out.
I'm bawling my eyes out and you walk up and say, oh, honey, it's OK. Yeah. Don't feel that way. Yeah. Do you realize how much BS that is? Yeah.

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I just lost my precious dog and you're telling me not to feel a certain way. I grew up with that. Gosh. I grew up with that.
Oh, you shouldn't feel that way. Yeah, but I do feel that way. I do feel that way. It's a British thing, too. No, it's not.
Like you were told to feel the feels. You weren't told. No, you told me before that. It's like the British stoicism.
Right. You're like I'm talking about more in my family interactions with my mom and dad. There was no don't feel like. Oh, I got that all the time.

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You feel I got it all the time. You shouldn't feel that way. Yeah. But you're right. The stoicism. Even when I get to my first marriage, I had a divorce.
I was broken up as the first divorce in my family. Everyone's happily married, supposedly.
And I show up supposedly with a marriage pilot in the Air Force, very established Air Force Academy, all sorts of, you know, got the world by the hands.

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Everything is perfect. Everything is perfect. Literally a white picket fence. Yeah. I mean, everything perfect.
Little garden in the back, you know, a couple of kids. Everything was perfect. So when I told my family, my mom specifically.
That this is not working. I was so depressed and so sad because this marriage was not viable. I tried my best, my more than my best, whatever I could do.

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And it was just not working. She didn't she didn't respond with, oh, honey, let's talk this through or let's, you know, tell me about it or anything.
But her answer to me was, why are you doing this to the family? Oh, God. All right. So, yeah, for me, I'm like, what the hell?
I mean, this is not my mom being bad. This is her. She was damaged. Yeah. She's learned about the reputation of something very egotistical as well.

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It was very difficult for her because now it's like, oh, my God, you know, I've got a child. I've got a child that's getting divorced.
You know, what does that mean to all of us? Yeah, it's like for those of you, I'm clearing my throat because I have four acres of pine.
Pine pollen. Four acres of pine trees behind me. I snort some on the way out. It's like, oh, my God.
You can literally see where I walked on the patio because it was like these footprints. It was on my car this morning. There's footprints out there.

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Yeah, it's funny. I'm really sorry. Get a photo of that. Oh, my God.
So anyway, you know, this is very difficult because we have these sometimes when we have these these interactions with other divine sovereigns, things don't go as we want.
Or I know a lot of adults where their children don't believe their adult children don't behave the way they think they should.

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They're not living their life the way that expectations. Yeah, it's like, hey, listen, I mean, people hanker after tradition.
Like, it's the only thing that can anchor us. It's like tradition. My tradition is to have a new thing every year.
K. Chesterton said tradition is a democracy of the dead. Oh, my God. That's brutal.
That's brutal. But to me, tradition is fun if it serves you.

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Yeah, yeah. Well, like, OK, like up in up in Michigan when we had this hill.
But your mom's reaction was one of tradition because you were going to get right outside the fold what was expected, what made her proud.
She had the superstar child. And all of a sudden you were showing what she thought was a weakness. Right.
And you weren't going to stick with tradition of just being married for, you know, for the rest of your life. Sucking it up.

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Well, I mean, I saw evidence of this because my mom's mom, who was also very familiar with alcoholics in her life.
She told me when I was newly engaged, told my spouse that basically that as long as your spouse is not beating you, then that's a good marriage.
I'm like, wait, what kind of standard is that? What kind of standard is that?

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It's like, I can't even you can't even put your head around it. But so that was kind of those. Those are the things I grew up with.
Yeah. Your mom was a piece of work. I mean, beautiful. But really, that's that's heavy.
But she was dealing with her own stuff. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Right.
The world around us influences us, but we also influence the world.
So there's no there's there's no black and white. Even if you took the whitest white person that you know,

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let's just say there's somebody you know from Northern Ireland. Right.
And they're the whitest white and you put them next to what you're wearing now. That white.
You'll see that they're going to look they're going to look yellow or pale. They're going to look tan.
Or you take the blackest black lady from Africa and put it next to a lump of coal.
And you put her next to that that amplifier. Yeah. That's jet black. Yeah.

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Or next to that speaker is jet black and she doesn't look black anymore.
So there's really no black or white. But we use that because we have to compartmentalize people.
We have to we have to put them in. There's little categories and to stereotype.
We have to we have to put them in their little boxes.
You can understand the evolutionary necessity of needing to do that.
Look in the summertime when I'm out on the farm, I know I am darker.

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I know the most golden. Yeah. A lot of black people with your blue eyes.
It's great. Right.
So anyway, so my point is this.
You brought up this idea that the way we think about things,
whether it's something that's imputed upon us like a way that we think,
maybe it's a belief system that's been imputed upon us.

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And we've never challenged that belief system.
Haven't asked enough questions. By asking questions.
Or some religious dogma that's been perpetrated upon us.
No matter what it is, if we permit ourselves to think a certain way,
which is central to a lot of your books, some of the things you teach in your books
are that the way you think about things matter. Oh, it is vital.

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It's the only consideration. What you think about is your superpower.
Everything else is secondary.
So thinking consciously with a high level of faith and a high vision,
but thinking well, I mean, it will determine your life.
Thinking poorly is going to determine your life.
I will get to the seven stages of disease, I promise.

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And they're going to go very quickly. Okay.
But I'm setting the stage for this discussion because the way you think
about yourself dictates the probable outcome.
Yes. Like you said, like you said with Sally,
she would have died sooner if she had a negative attitude,
if she didn't work out. Yeah. All of those things play into it.

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Yeah. Right. They all play in.
I could imagine, I could imagine to live a thousand years,
the probability of that is pretty small probably. Right?
Is it impossible? I'm going to say no. No.
It's not impossible unless I buy off on the idea that it is.
If you believe it's impossible, it won't happen.
And yes, it could happen if you were completely free of ego,

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drain on your consciousness.
Because yeah, there's cases in the Bible where Methuselah lived
in like fucking 900 or something. So yeah, that's a possibility.
But they had clean foods too.
And some mushrooms.
Okay. Biology 101. Each one of us, we've got this,
we've got three different brains. Our primary brain is actually

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in our chest cavity. It's called our heart.
It's a five, it's basically a five dimensional transceiver.
Our heart sends and receives information.
You can look up and do some studies.
It's called the field of heart math.
Frequencies and consciousness, we speak, my heart speaks to your heart.
Even before my words move, you know that I absolutely love you

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and adore you without words because my heart says that.
And you can pick it up if you're open to it.
Animals are really good at that.
Babies are good at that.
So using the word heart, so I have to think about that
because I would change that word because immediately it goes to
an organ in my body. But heart is love. I just guessed love, right?
Well, I mean heart...
It's my soul. It's my soul full of love recognizing you.

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But you're using the word heart. I think that's good.
Well, your heart, your physical heart that supposedly pumps blood, right?
It's not that the heart pumps blood.
The blood actually pumps the heart.
When you look at the magneto-electrics of it,
we live in upside down world, but that's a different discussion.
The heart, if you unfold it, it's actually a spiral.
It's a spiral. I'll show you pictures of it.

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It's pretty fascinating.
It's a seven-sided three-dimensional figure.
Wow.
And it's really cool. Your heart is your number one brain.
The second brain you have is your gut.
It's the concoction of all of these living things in you and on you.
Some of them have your DNA. Most of them don't.
So you're this universe.
But when you know you're doing the right things...

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Let's just play this through.
Sarah Thierry is a philanthropist,
and she wants to do good things for young children in terms of reading, right?
So what happens is you have this idea in your heart.
Your heart is moving you in a direction.
You get these little butterflies in your gut,
and you get excited about it like a little girl

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because your heart and your gut agree.
That's your gut check.
Now, as soon as your heart and your gut agree on something...
Yeah, that's very powerful, isn't it?
Your slave brain, your monkey brain...
Yeah, your ego mind.
...falls in the line.
Oh, okay. It's not going to start rebelling?
No, unless you have a belief system that objects to it.
Yeah.

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Like, if your belief system is,
well, I can't help these little children because I need to put food on my own table.
Okay, I see what you're saying.
So if you have a conflicting belief...
Your heart and then your gut isn't operational
because that would be by itself that belief.
Well, no, but they are operational.
In your heart, you know what's right.
Your gut is happy to do that.
But your ego mind can talk yourself out of it.
But you have a belief system.

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Whether it's true or false, doesn't matter.
It's a belief system.
Yeah.
And your belief says, yeah, but if I help them, we're going to suffer.
Yeah.
Back in the early 90s, I was making about 80 grand a year
being a very senior Air Force pilot.
They actually paid me to stay in.
I was giving my former spouse, I was giving like $400 a month
just to different charities and stuff.

(25:34):
We were doing very well.
But I got blowback because I was giving $400 a month.
From your spouse.
From my spouse, my former spouse.
Because she wasn't living with abundance, was she?
She was living in scarcity.
To me, it's like, look, we don't need another cheap plastic toy for the kids.
We don't need that.
But there's other people who need this $400 and I'm going to keep giving.

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Was that the reason that marriage collapsed predominantly?
It was one of them.
Yeah, it was one of them.
I mean, the whole idea of giving, to me, I give because I want to give.
Back then, it was money.
I don't give money much anymore.
I give time and I give health.
I serve people for free.
And that's my...
That's your giving.
That's my giving.
It's your giving.
Giving of my talent.

(26:17):
Yes, exactly.
We have this brain up here that is the manager.
So as soon as your heart and your gut agree to something,
this is the executive branch.
This is the executor.
These two say, we're going to do this.
And then your brain up in your cranium, that's the one that says,
okay, how am I going to do this?
That's the intellect.
It's the intellect.
It's engaged.
ABC123, let's get this done.

(26:38):
Right?
Get the plan going.
But I talk to them separately, but in fact...
No, I like this.
Functionally, though...
Yeah, they're in synergy.
Functionally, they all work together.
But the heart happens first, though, because that's where the inspiration came.
Well, they all have different energies.
So you might be inspired...
If you're inspired by fear, that's a lower energy.

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Right, okay.
So the highest energy is up in your crown.
So there's these lower energies that become more and more resonant.
And I know a lot of you are imagining these chakras and stuff.
That's what I was going to say, yeah.
I'm not a believer in chakras.
But you're leaning towards what is talked about.
To me, you're so much more than just these seven chakras.

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Oh, okay.
You're so much more than that.
That limits you.
You are an infinite number.
As many snowflakes as there are, as many different configurations of geometry as there are,
that's how many different people resonate with different frequencies.
You could be exposed to certain frequencies.
You're going to have different resonance, because your ability to receive those frequencies

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is very different than my ability to receive those frequencies.
And that's what makes you divinely unique and me divinely unique.
Oh, amen.
Great.
If you bring all the snowflakes together, you can make snowballs and forts,
and you have snowball fights and all those weapons.
But the way we think about things matters.
You can listen to Joe Dispenza.
Would you say it's vital?

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Well, I mean, it's vital to means living.
Well, no, that's not used the way...
It is absolutely imperative to think properly, to think well, to think high thoughts.
Well, it depends on what your outcome is.
If your life contract is that I'm going to come and I'm going to pop a couple kids out,
teach them the basics and leave here, then that's your life contract.

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It doesn't matter if you think...
Right, yes, absolutely.
It doesn't matter if you think about the future.
Yes, you're on a limited...
There's a lot of determinism involved in that life.
Your free will is...
When you have...
When you're a higher level of consciousness, you have much more of an open palette of creation.
Well, and...
And if you come and go and you have a couple of kids and you do something here and there,
but that would be on the lower stages, I think, of it.

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Well, I agree.
And that's why I say it just, you know, it's not one size fits all because I actually have met with people as recently as this week.
They're empty nesters.
Their kids are out of the state.
They don't call.
They don't talk.
They don't send postcards.
I mean, none of it.
And it's because they're busy with their lives trying to pay the bills.
It's nothing to do with you.
We would like to think our kids would call us once in a while.
But the fact is that they're busy.

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Yeah.
We didn't raise the children for them to have this obligation to call me and interact and come visit once a year.
No, I want them to enjoy life and go skiing and have fun and water ski.
Yes, I like them to call sometimes.
Let's be real.
But don't take it personally.
But don't take it personally if they're not.
You do you.
If your purpose on the life was to pop the kids out, let them grow up and go away, well, then you're done.

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Why don't you just go away?
Or you can say you've got bigger fish to fry.
Why?
OK, I did that part of my life.
I'm done with that part.
So here's Tara, Sarah, Tara and Tia, Julie.
We're sitting here in front of my you saying, what's next?
What can we do now that we we did the family thing?
I've got that box.
I've got four grandkids there.

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I'm freaking done with all that stuff.
Right.
So what's next?
What's next?
How do we make?
What can I do next?
Yes.
What else is in my life plan?
I know I'm warming up.
I'm going to buy a few airplanes.
I know that.
So two, two airplanes and helicopter.
Oh, darling, your vision is not big enough.
No, I got to own your own airport.
You got seven planes you're going to get?

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Oh, yes.
I can eventually have seven.
And yes, an airport, too.
Yes.
Did you read?
Did I show you the angel stuff?
No, really?
Oh, my God.
I can't believe you said that.
OK.
So anyway, the way you think.
God, I'm glad I got these notes because while you were talking, I just scribbled two notes.
That's good.
Because otherwise, it would be squirrel and all of that squirrel sandhilling all over the place.
Our body has a pharmacy.

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Joe Dispenza talks about it.
Dr. Bruce Lipton, the biology of belief.
Huge.
This is gold, people.
Rupert Sheldrake, another one.
Sheldrake's good.
So these people, they get it.
Even Greg Braden.
Greg Braden.
These people, they get it.
Like, we are so magnificent.
The way we think will change the outcomes.

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That's when you're at a, that's when you have everything else lined up.
There's some people, I can't talk to them about their spiritual self because their chemistry is in such bad disarray.
So some people, they come to me in such, with such bad chemistry, I can put out the most beautiful love.
They can't receive it.
And it will be meaningless.

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I can put out the most beautiful food.
They can't receive it.
No matter what frequency, no matter what density I try to reach them,
they can't receive it because they're, it's, I liken it to, I liken it to, remember when we were young, we had those little transistor radios
and there you put the battery in and then you couldn't find it.
Fiddle around for a while.
You fiddle around to you.

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Hey, it's like, hey, 98.7.
I got the baseball game.
Yay.
Right.
And you could, but that's what we are.
We are actually capable of tuning into different frequencies.
But what if that AM FM radio was on your boat all summer on the ocean and it got corroded with salt and you've got, it's just all the inner workings of it got degraded.

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And you got jaded.
And the battery, the battery was leaking.
And it's easy to get jaded.
Well, the receiver, it doesn't mean there's not beauty out there.
All those frequencies are out there still.
You're not in any type of identification.
But you can't receive them because your receivers are broken.
You're you're you're the AM.
You're the receiver, but you're a transceiver too.
So you receive, but you also send.

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But if your receiver is broken, that would be your avatar, your body.
I have people come to me.
The very first thing I do is tell them we've got to take out the trash.
Well, my body's my joints, my skin, my breath, my things aren't working in the bedroom.
Let's take out the trash.
If your body's polluted, your blood, your organs, your tissues.

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If you're polluted and you're losing your hair and you're not sleeping,
we have to take out the trash.
So we'll talk about that.
So I'm setting the stage for the seven stages of disease.
I presented Thursday.
A girlfriend of mine is she's got her own health clinic.
She's a doctor.
She says, you know, I've got a lot of people interested in holistic health.
Would you present?
So I presented my gut babies and I showed a slide.

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It's it's one of my most sought after presentations.
It's called Gut Babies.
I'll actually put a link in the show notes.
But but what Gut Babies is, I call it Gut Babies because we have a lot of things
living on us and in us.
The byproduct, the metabolic byproduct from those bacterial cultures within your gut

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can influence the way you think.
If you feed certain bacteria, they're going to make you sad and angry and depressed
and short tempered.
If you feed other bacteria, they produce things like propionate, acetate, butyrate.
These are very favorable for your neurotransmitters and they they're like a warm hug for your

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brain.
Yes, the word elation came into my mind that you're going to get more elated and not be
dragged down.
Yeah, I mean, life when you're eating, when you're eating foods that serve you, when you're
eating foods.
And guess what?
If you're eating Lucky Charms from a box, that's not even a food.
That's a bunch of chemicals that a quote food scientist put together.
So I'm bringing this up because during my presentation, I showed a slide.

(34:25):
I'll show it to you.
I have two slides, identical twins.
They're on one hand.
I got two girls.
DNA is the same on the other slide.
Two girls, same DNA.
You would not be able to tell completely different.
One of them is clearly going through chemo, no hair, skinny, withdrawn.
The other one's athletic and perfect.

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The other set, one looks normal, happy, healthy, you know, 35 year old.
The other one's like 400 pounds, but they have the same DNA.
So this whole idea, the science, this fraud that perpetrates upon us like, oh, well, I'm
going to be have a I'm going to be diabetic because my mom was and she was or I'm going

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to be have a heart issue because my mom wasn't.
She was.
If you were told by a so-called expert that you're going to have a heart issue because
your mom did and her mom did, it's up to you whether you believe it or not.
Poisoned by these fairy tales.
So that's exactly what it is.

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So for me, they told me 15 years ago that I had lupus, the VA.
Yeah, you have lupus, Captain.
You got to go to this, get this radioactive iodide and do these tests.
I'm like, yeah, no, I don't.
It's like, no, yeah, you do.
You have the markers and I'm like, yeah, no, I don't.
How long do I have before I go take these radioactive tests with your science people?

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And they're like, well, you know, seven weeks is probably the earliest, maybe six.
I'm like, okay, cool.
So I stopped all meat, all dairy, plant raw plant food for six weeks.
I made them promise to check my blood before I did the radiation stuff.
I'm like, why?
I said, because I want you to check my blood and I'm the boss.
Yeah, so I have a comparison when I'm better.

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So I went in there.
I was in that little robe freezing my butt off and I said, no, you're not going to do the radioactive stuff.
Check the chart.
You said you're supposed to check my blood.
45 minutes I froze my butt off and they came back and said, hey, Captain, you're free to go.
What a victory.
I'm like, told you so.
I said, thank you.

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So people ask me why I'm a plant based eater.
It's like, well, you've seen the results.
I got rid of my lupus.
Why would I do that?
So I know people blow back on that.
It's like, hey, you can't.
It's first person.
It's a first person testimony.
So you can't even begin to try to prove me wrong.
You can't argue with success.
That's a good way to put it.
So anyway, we're going to get to these right now.

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One other fallacy I run into all the time.
So first of all, your mind is powerful.
So the idea of having a fear of dying is tantamount to a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It's tantamount.
Now we've all heard of this placebo effect.
Do you know what that is?
Yes.
OK.
For those of you who don't know what the placebo effect is, if you took two people with similar conditions or identical conditions and you said to both of them that this little capsule is a life changing, life saving drug.

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It's a miracle drug.
And you give it to both people.
One of them is the drug.
The other one is a sugar pill or some inert, inactive substance.
And they both get healed.
One had the drug.
One had the belief that they were going to be healed.
What's the difference?
It's belief.

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It's their belief.
So would both of them does placebo help all people all the time?
No.
Depends where they believe it.
It depends on what they believe in.
So you could give a drug to someone that doesn't believe the drug.
A skeptic.
They're a skeptic of the drug.
And they're going to end up.
And they probably say, oh, I'm not going to fall for that bullshit.
And they're going to go on to another drug and another drug and a drug.

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So it's like practice bleeding.
They're going to practice bleeding their way to the grave until they realize how powerful they are.
They're going to continue to suffer.
So that's why I just keep saying, OK, when you're done suffering, give me a call.
Because I'm going to be happy one way or the other.
That's brutal.
No, it is brutal.
No, I mean, it is necessary.
Because that is a reality.

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It is brutal.
And when you're bored with your own suffering.
When you are bored with this bullshit, then you'll open your mind a bit.
I like this anecdote when I was growing up.
It was funny.
It's like, doctor, doctor, when I do this, it hurts.
And the doctor's like, well, don't do that.
I did.
Stop doing it.
It's like, don't be stupid.
So but people do that with foods.
They do that with relationships.
They do that with self-talk.

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Yeah.
When I think back on my first marriage, I want to cry.
Well, stop thinking of your first marriage.
Look forward.
Change your thoughts.
Change your thoughts.
Why are you?
Why do you practice bleeding?
That's like picking your unconscious.
It's like picking a scab.
It's like every time I pick the scab, it bleeds more.
I'm like, what are you stupid?
Put a bandaid on it.
Put some colloidal silver and let it heal.

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We're getting there.
So if they're terrified of dying, especially if this is the final life, that you're not
going anywhere after this.
If they believe it's the final life.
If they believe this is your final life or there's this pressure, look, you're going
to go to the judgment day and you better F and have your act together because this is

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going to be hellfire and ribstone.
If you don't pass muster, it's into the dark chasm of eternity.
Like, that's a pretty dark place.
So now you got, on one hand, you got this cancer.
You're scared to death of cancer.
On the other hand, you're struggling.
Did I do this life right?
Yeah.
So self doubt.

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No matter where you are, you're like all sorts of fears.
Sally would have been like.
So we really have to say, okay, what can I do to bring myself to a place where I can
have some faith?
I can have some hope.
Faith is absolutely important.
And so what I do is I bring people hope.
With that is a long, long, long backdrop.
Let me wrap it up.
I've got a, those of you listen, you can go.

(40:27):
I'll have it in the show notes.
You can go to TiaJolie.com.
Why don't we put it in the show?
Why don't we put the seven stages of cancer by the summary?
I will.
It'll be in there.
Yeah, that's good.
But you can go to, if you're on the radio, TiaJolie.com forward slash seven stages.
So it's the number seven stages.
And you can read this document that Sarah's got in front of her.

(40:49):
So basically from a holistic health practice, there's seven stages of disease.
Dis-ease.
We're identifying the things that make your avatar, make your body, your beautiful, precious
avatar, not have ease.

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Dis-ease.
The first thing is almost everybody comes to me when it's, when they're really far down
like stage five, six, seven.
Almost nobody intervenes at stage one, two or three.
It's simple.
Stage one, two and three, even stage four, you can get rid of like in 48 hours.

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I love it on your stage three is irritability.
That's really interesting.
Yeah.
I mean, you can catch it before that, before you get, but when you're irritable, you've
got to know that there's something going on, right?
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
And we're going to cover that.
The other fallacy I have to get to is this idea that I caught cancer.
I caught cancer.

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No, you didn't.
No, no.
The doctor said I caught cancer.
Well, first of all, you're talking about the medical doctor, not a real doctor.
A medical doctor teaches medicine and they get paid by pharmacy.
That's their, that's their payday.
A real doctor is going to ask questions and teach you how to ask questions.

(42:13):
That's, that's it.
So the question is, can I catch cancer?
Can I, can my mom's mom?
Can you inherit it?
Inherit.
Can I inherit cancer?
You can inherit the.
Or you'd have to ask, is God smiting me with cancer?
Oh, there's that too.
You know, your mom was a hooker.
So you're going to be dying of cancer.

(42:35):
Your generation sins.
Your sins, right?
That's, that's, that makes sense.
First of all, so you can't catch cancer.
When we inherit genes or DNA, we also inherit beliefs.
We inherit eating habits.
We inherit television, watching habits.
We inherit a bunch of stuff.

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Even our ability to deal with stress.
If you grew up in a family where it's like, I struck out every time I was at bat today, I struck out.
And you went home and you were just distraught because you struck out every time.
And then your parents are like, hey, that's why it's called an average, because the average says that three out of ten times you're going to get ahead.

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So this is good news because you took care of three of those seven times where you're not going to get ahead.
That makes the probability higher that you're going to get ahead next time.
Hmm.
Oh, yeah, because that's what an average is, right?
So if you went home to that, that's going to be a way different way of learning how to deal with life's negatives versus, oh, yeah, that sucks.

(43:46):
Maybe you should not play baseball.
Maybe you suck at baseball.
You should go suck at something else.
Right.
I mean, yeah, so, you know, the way with but but but the way we learn the way we learned a question is really important for our future.
We don't catch cancer.
It's not handed down.
Most diseases.
This makes my diabetics crazy.

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Type two diabetes is 100 percent earned.
It's a badge of honor.
It's something you wanted.
It's something you deserve to label.
You got you've branded you embraced it.
So all of my type two diabetics, I just say, yeah, and I again, I have previous episodes.
I talked to you about the guy for five decades was a diabetic.

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I have someone that I've done some work with and she's I'm I have autism.
And I'm like, well, that's actually not my experience of you at all.
You're capable.
You're beautiful.
But she this is a big she identifies with it.
Yeah.
And I ask people, it's whenever they put a label on themselves, they put a label on themselves.
I'm like, is that a label you want to keep?
Why do we love labels?

(44:51):
Because why I ask them because I'm honoring them as a sovereign.
Is that a label you want to keep?
Well, no, I don't.
OK, let's talk it through.
Let's talk.
But a lot of times they'll look and they have a hard time because they've identified as being an alcoholic or being a diabetic.
Where your ego wears it so proud.
They just it's like a big tattoo on their arms.

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But you're not in touch with your soul because your soul was so stupid.
Get rid of it.
Even this is a classic.
I'm a survivor, cancer survivor.
Oh, yeah, that's a big one, isn't it?
Look, you were a survivor before you had cancer.
I mean, like, this is not a thing.
So, OK, so let's go through these stages real quick.
I do have a I can put a link to the copy of Gut Babies because I do have those pictures of these.

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It's not your DNA.
Two percent of your DNA is the double helix.
Ninety eight percent are the sensors that determine what you're thinking, what you're feeling, what you ate.
Did you get sunshine?
Has somebody hugged you this week?
All of those sensors tell your DNA how to express.

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So you can have a predisposition to a cancer like you might have a predisposition.
And if you're not eating fresh fruits and vegetables, you might be under methylated.
Your body senses that you don't have enough methylated, enough methylation activity in your in your body.
And it's going to express until you methylate.
As a result, I use methylated vitamins and nutrients.

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I make sure that I give my people methylation so they can put the clamps on any potential expression of DNA.
The seven stages I'm going to read through them.
The first one is what's called innervation.
Those are the root of that word is nerves.
So just remember, innervation is nerves.
The second one is called toxemia.

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Obviously, it's the root of that word is toxic.
Toxic irritation obviously is irritable. You're irritated.
The next one is stage four is inflammation, which means you're inflamed.
The fifth one is what's called ulceration.
I like to refer to it as perforation.

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So that means that you've got a membrane, you've got a tissue where there's a breakthrough.
There's something that's broken.
There's something that's torn.
There's something that's it's like a zit.
There's something came through the surface. That's an ulceration.
People see that as skin cancer. That's an ulceration.
Number six is called enduration. Enduration means endure.

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That means your body's been through a lot and it's enduring and it's doing all it can do to protect itself.
And I'll go through these in a little more detail.
And the seventh stage is cancer, what you call cancer.
Now, the first six stages are completely reversible.
All of those first six stages.

(47:46):
Now, in the last one, you did say it was reversible, though, which I was really, really happy about.
I'm just going to read this.
Yes, I'm going to get to that. When it comes to stage seven, I'll have you read that.
OK, good. Yeah.
So let me blitz through the first six stages because people can read about this.
Yeah, that was interesting.
So the endervation simply means this. I ate something or I experienced something and I'm agitated, I'm irritated.

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So I'm upset about something.
This is like a baby that's got gas or a baby that's not sleeping.
Baby's trying to sleep and it's crying. Just think of a baby crying.
If everything's not perfect with the baby, it's hungry, it's tired, it's this, it's this, whatever.
The baby's going to cry. Just think of an enduration.
It's agitated.

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Something's just not right. I didn't sleep well.
And it's mild.
Yeah, it's just mild.
A mild irritant.
But what you're going to find is that these mild irritants, they stack up.
In the aviation world, we call it the chain of events.
So if you have a pilot that didn't sleep well and then there was no breakfast and now there's storms and there's a maintenance issue
and now somebody threw up in the back and you lashed and your copilot got sick.

(48:58):
Stalled on tape.
And then all of this stuff happening, then you end up having an accident or an incident.
So it might not be trivial.
You say, what caused the accident?
Yeah, a knock-on effect.
It was like a whole bunch of things.
And this is where modern medicine gets it wrong.
There's a lot of ways it gets it wrong, but they're going to say, oh, you have arthritis in your elbow.

(49:20):
They don't consider all the other stuff.
They just give you something to deal with the inflammation or the pain.
Pain and inflammation are sisters.
So next time I write the update to that, inflammation and pain are sisters.
Enervation.
You can't have a sick elbow.
If your elbow is sick, your whole body is sick.
If you're depressed, it's not just a brain issue.

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It's your whole body.
Your whole body is struggling with something.
So that's that.
Number two is toxemia.
Our body naturally wants to get rid of poisons and toxins.
No different than you as an entire system.
You want to pee and you want to poop.
And you're happy when you've done it.
And you're happy when you've done it.
Your body wants to get rid of the poisons.

(50:06):
Anything that's not serving you is going to be ejected out of you.
Now, if your liver is congested, your body is still going to try to get rid of it.
It's going to give you zits.
It's going to give you skin rashes.
Because your liver and your skin, they're sisters.
If your liver can't hold, can't cure it.
Does it give you psoriasis?
Yes.

(50:27):
In fact, when I see someone with skin conditions, first thing I think of is fatty or toxic liver.
Fatty liver, inefficient liver, deficiency of liver enzymes, things like that.
So toxemia simply says, my body is, even with my body's best efforts, I couldn't get rid of yesterday's toxicity.

(50:48):
So I'm still dealing with residual toxins.
Because every day your body wants to clear the toxins.
But if you're stressed, if you're not eating or sleeping, there's all of these different things that play in.
Eventually, you're going to get to the point where you're not clearing all the toxins.
You're going to get toxemia, which is closely related to a slight change in your overall body's pH level.

(51:15):
It's going to bias you a little bit towards acidity.
Because normally our pH is right about 7.4, 7.38.
That's slightly alkaline.
But if we're toxic, our body is going to bias a little bit more towards acidity.
And it's a different conversation.
But if people stay in that toxemia, they only stay at level two their whole life.

(51:38):
Your body is going to try to normalize that pH.
And one of the best ways it does it is by sucking calcium from your bones.
So it's not like you don't have enough vitamin D or whatever.
If you have osteoporosis, osteopenia, joint issues, I ask, let's take out the trash.
Because that way you don't have to suck the calcium out of your bones.

(52:00):
It's the acidity that sucks the calcium out of your bones.
It's drinking sodas. Oh, but it's diet.
It's sucking calcium out of your bones. It's acidic.
Number three is irritation.
It's like, I got the skin rash. I'm itchy. I've got body odor.
I've got to say smell. Yeah, smell is a big thing.

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Once you go plant based, if you're a rough guy, no zero.
True raw food, plant based eaters that have bad breath or body odor.
Once you clean up, you won't even have body odor.
God did not design body odor.
It's not body odor is because you're toxic.
You're not doing something you should be doing. And if somebody has halitosis,

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they are so toxic, their liver, their kidney.
If they have halitosis, there's a good chance if you look under their rib cage,
they have this big gut and it's not just a fat gut.
It's jutting out. It's inflamed like a balloon.
There's a good chance they have that big, they joke about it.
This trophy gut. Yeah, my dad had one of those.

(53:04):
Because their organs are inflamed.
Because when you're toxic, you start to get inflamed.
My dad's was so big, he could put his beer on top of it.
He could use it and put it on his shelf. That's level four.
So you get irritated, but then you quickly thereafter you get inflamed.
Sometimes inflammation is sister's work.
And that's going to irritate you even more.

(53:25):
Yes, now you start to get into this. It's cyclical.
Now you're inflamed.
Most of the time when you're inflamed, you have pain.
Not always. Sometimes you have pain without inflammation,
sometimes inflammation without pain.
But they are sisters.
If you're a little inflamed and you don't have pain,
it might be because it's your gut and you don't have pain receptors down there.
You don't have the same...

(53:47):
If I touch a hot stove or I need pain receptors to perceive that pain,
your gut could be in excruciating pain if it had pain receptors.
But because it doesn't, you can have inflammation without the pain.
But then you're going to get pain as soon as you get to the next level,
which is level five, which is ulceration.
So now your gut is going to start leaking.

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It's going to perforate. You're going to have what's called leaky gut.
The perforation, now you're going to start to feel the pain.
And it's going to be not a little bit.
It's a lot of pain, a lot of discomfort.
Because stage four, you might have had inflammation without the pain,
but now you've got a perforation.
And now you've got ulcers and you've got this...

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The lining itself is perforated.
Now you're triggering those pain receptors with acid from your gut.
And it's not a pretty look.
So the good news is your gut, the innermost lining layer of your gut,
it's called the endothelium, it starts to heal itself within 72 hours.
Just start changing in the first...
Yes, there's some hope.
The first four and five layers, the first four layers for sure,

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72 hours to a week, we can reverse those.
That's great news, isn't it?
Now, once you have ulceration, it really depends on where it is, what it is.
How deep, how long it's been there, what's the size, what caused it.
But it's still reversible.
But we need to intervene quickly.
The longer you wait, this is a Chinese proverb,
the farther you...
If you're on the wrong...
It's Japanese, one of those two.

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But the longer you're on the wrong train, the more costly it is to go back.
Yeah, and time consuming.
And time, it's going to waste time and effort and energy.
That's number five.
And you can read about this, just download it.
Number six is enduration.
People come to me, it's like, oh, I have cancer or I have tumors.
I have cysts, I have tumors, I have polyps, I have this, I have that.

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If your body is trying to get rid of things, and these are...
You're so toxic, your systems are so sluggish,
your body is so far behind the take out the trash,
you're literally, you're hoarding, you are literally hoarding toxicity.
You're inflamed, you're...
Nothing's working right.
Forget about having good sex.

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It's gone, because everything's not working.
Well, guess what?
You're entering this stage of enduration.
That means your body is saying, okay, clearly, you're not going to take care of me.
I need to take care of me.
So it's going to take toxins and start bundling them up,
rolling the toxicity up into little modules, little nodes.

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Now, you're going to call them cancers or tumors,
or you're going to call them these things, these little growths.
But what your body is doing is it's creating a capsule,
a little tissue or a fat capsule,
and it's going to try to push that out of your body.
It wants to push it out.
Expand it, yeah.
I had a girl that presented with...
She wanted to naturally get rid of her breast cancer.

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And I'm going to tell you, it was the nastiest thing, but we helped her.
It was right on top of her right breast,
and this freaking ugly, stinky, smelly, pussy stuff was getting ejected out of her breast.
Right there on top.
She would not do medical.
She didn't want to.
I didn't want her to.
What we did was we created a substrate within her body

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to facilitate the ejection of this mass, and she's just fine now.
Her body literally took this massive wad of toxic sludge
and pushed it out of her chest, just right out.
So what I did with her was that we were routinely using colloidal silver,
changing gauzes, using aloe vera,

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just keeping it moist and helping the body do its job, getting rid of these masses.
So that's kind of what we do to work with the body instead of against it.
Now, if I have a tumor in my body and it's not spread,
and then I take a needle because I'm going to do a biopsy,
and there's this beautiful—your body is doing its job.
It's got this little sphere full of poisons, and it's going to work its way out.

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Maybe it'll poop it out or pee it out or eject it out your skin.
But then you're going to go and do a biopsy, and you're going to poke it with a needle.
They did that to my mom when she had brain tumor.
It was the worst thing I ever agreed to.
So what are we really saying here?
Your body's taken this poison. It's successfully wrapped it up in a little fat bundle.

(58:16):
Stuck it somewhere.
And now I'm going to pop the balloon, and you're expecting it to not spread.
You're encouraging it to spread the poisons.
It's not cancer. So here's the punchline.
Cancer toxins come from within your body because your adrenals can create very toxic chemicals,

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corticosteroids, epinephrine, norepinephrine.
All of these are fight-or-flight things,
but we stress so much about so many things that it becomes toxic by itself.
So what happens is we have these tumors, and people go and poke them with bubbles,
and they squish them and pop them and all this.
And then the poisons spread, and now we have this metastasis.

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It's metastasized.
So that's what happened to Sally because—oh, we'll get into this.
I can't even go there, right?
Right. We don't have to.
Oh, my.
I'm not saying this is what happens, but from my point of view—
It's what happened to her that makes so much sense now.
I don't know really anybody where if you pop a bubble of toxins,
and you don't expect it to spread—
Yeah, duh.

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I mean, this is like fifth grade stuff.
Yeah.
So my question becomes this.
If you knew you had this little bag of poison toxins, and you're at level six,
and your tissues are hardening themselves,
you're creating these little modules full of toxicity,
and you decide to not pop them, what do you do?

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Well, first of all, you get your liver, you get your organs working 100% capacity,
because then even—because eventually your body will pop it by itself,
but it won't pop it until you're able to deal with it.
Right. So they'll reduce it. Yes.
So it's going to say, okay—
Reduce its impact once it's dispersed.
Yeah, we can't deal with this poison now, so I got it in this little bubble.

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It's in the shelf in the closet. I know it's there. I'll get to it.
Let me clean up the system, because your body's super smart.
It's going to clean up your system.
Let's get the liver, the kidney, the organs, everything working properly.
Then it's going to go—eventually it's going to go to the shelf.
It's going to pull it off the shelf, pierce the bubble itself.
It doesn't need help. It's going to pierce it itself.

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It's going to get rid of those raffiers. It's going to deal with the toxicity.
You're going to stink for a while. It's going to poop it out, pee it out, sweat it out, menstruate it out,
and this could be out of your body. That's how that works.
So it's a beautiful thing.
Then we get to cancer. Here's the punchline.
You don't get cancer. Cancer cells are your cells.

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They have your DNA. You produce them.
You've abused them for six stages.
These are your crying, screaming babies that are now teenagers.
They're crying, screaming babies.
You've abused them for seven years, eight, 10, 12, 15 years, and now you're expecting them to behave.

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That's a very funny and accurate analogy.
You're expecting them to behave, and they're like, F you. I don't need you in my life.
You don't know shit.
The good news is if the cancer cell, which is your cell, remembers that it's, oh yeah, I'm a brain cell.
I remember. You can still reverse it.

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You can get it all the way down to stage zero if it remembers.
But if that cell is so compromised that it doesn't remember what it is, that becomes the problem.
That's when it's like you have a brain cell. It's running out of control.
It used to know it was your brain cell. Now it's just this renegade animal.
It's going to devour anything that's in its way.

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Jesus Christ. Superstar.
Those are 50-50 maybe if you can get those back or not.
A lot of times you can't get them back.
And those are the ones that you lose very quickly.
They're so far down the road that those cancers, those progress very quickly.
That was a lot of words.
Yeah, but it was, that was amazing.
But those are the seven stages.
Yeah, really interesting.
And guess what, y'all? I'm just a kid that asks questions.

(01:02:14):
I'm no different than anybody else.
I've just asked more questions than you have.
And if you have something to add to this, something I can learn from you, I'm begging you.
Let me know because I want to make my game better so I can help more people.
That's so beautiful.
Okay, so that was a lot. What are your thoughts?
I don't have any. I think that was really, really great.

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And it's very understandable. It's logical. It makes complete sense.
None of this is like, well, that doesn't make any sense.
This is it. There's just seven stages.
Well, you've given this beautiful body.
And the fact that they're all reversible is just, well, apart from that very end one when you can just...
Right.
But then if you're going to die of cancer at that point, that might be in your destiny to do so.
And you've killed yourself so your family has some lessons to learn from that

(01:02:59):
because there's a bigger metaphysical picture perhaps.
Right. So now we've talked, last episode we talked about Sally
and life and death.
This episode we talked about the stages of dis-ease.
So next episode, I'm excited what you come up with.
Oh, me too.
Because there's probably going to be some, as like always, we think about what we've talked about and then we come.

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Or it could be completely random.
Talk about music?
Yes, do it.
Yeah, let's do it.
I want to tell you about that song that I want to buy the license to.
So we'll play that on air if we can and then I want to buy the license to reproduce this song.
It was a 1972 hit.
I'm excited.
Yeah.
We have so much, we have to talk about music.
I want to start, hey, for all y'all out there...

(01:03:45):
My religion.
I'm going to ask you this right now, command decision, but I would like to feature on this podcast some amateur music.
Not amateur, I don't want like...
Aspiring music.
Some aspiring, some legitimate musicians with music that actually sounds like music.
Can I give a commentary?
Well, I would like...
Because I want to be able to listen to it and give you my feedback because I love this project.

(01:04:08):
Well, what I'd like to do is I want to put the focus on creators.
And since this is an audio podcast, it has to be musical.
Like I can't feature in that.
Let's do a separate podcast.
Keep this soul decode and then do another off spin from this and do that with the music.
How about instead of a separate one, we can have maybe once a month, maybe this will be the February feature.

(01:04:29):
We can do a feature because I don't think we can...
And it's nice and entertaining.
So this will just be music and people listen to it.
That'll be nice.
And then we can discuss it.
Let's discuss it afterwards because there's so much in music and the poetry that needs to be discussed.
Yeah, I'd like to keep it under the soul decodes, but we can have...
Right now we have specials.
Like your thing with Sally was we put that out there as a special.

(01:04:52):
And when you read your The Mirror World, that was a special.
So we can have specials, but then we can also have...
It could be a special or a feature.
Like if you want to...
If we want to feature, like maybe we can have a whole episode where we feature musicians.
That would be something we could do too.
Sure.
Whatever. We're just two kids trying to figure it out.

(01:05:13):
Anyway, I have to go meet a new person that I can help.
I have to go pee.
Yeah. Thanks for sharing.
Cool. It's so good to see you.
Thanks for the great work today.
Yeah, it was very therapeutic in many ways, actually.
And there's some follow-up questions and I've written those down.
And I'll put all these things in the show notes.
And y'all, thanks for spending time with Sarah and me today.

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Sarah Teary.
Are we going to publish this today?
No, this is going out...
I can't say what day it is then.
No, this will be out the end of February.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, y'all. Love you and make it a great day.
Okay.

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