February 14, 2025 • 40 mins
In this exceptional episode of Soul Decodes, Dr. Tia Jolie Phillips, who holds a PhD in Holistic Natural Health & Nutrition, and Sarah Tirri, a philosopher and religion founder, celebrate the podcast's expanding global audience, including new listeners from Russia.
Sarah shares her personal journey of tapering off multiple medications, including Xanax, while Dr. Phillips provides expert insights into holistic health. Their discussion covers topics such as the importance of gut health, sleep cycles, and the body's natural healing mechanisms, emphasizing the necessity of detoxification for optimal well-being.
Sarah Tirri emphasizes the need for worldwide awareness regarding pharmaceutical dominance, questioning whether it could be slowly harming billions worldwide or, at the very least, diminishing cognitive functions. Dr. Phillips highlights the critical role of serotonin production in our well-being and underscores how gut health is essential for achieving the positive sleep patterns we all desire.
The two ladies further discuss the body's natural processes, focusing on the roles of melatonin and ibogaine in wellness. Melatonin, a hormone produced by the pineal gland, regulates sleep-wake cycles. Factors such as light exposure and diet can influence its production. Incorporating foods rich in tryptophan, an amino acid precursor to melatonin, along with healthy carbohydrates, can promote better sleep quality.
Ibogaine, derived from the African shrub Tabernanthe iboga, has been traditionally used in spiritual ceremonies and is now being studied for its potential in treating addiction and enhancing mental health. The discussion underscores the importance of understanding and supporting the body's natural rhythms and processes. By fostering gut health, ensuring adequate detoxification, and being mindful of interventions like melatonin supplementation or ibogaine use, individuals can work towards achieving optimal health and well-being.
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Welcome to Soul Decodes. Join us as we wander off the path to find the ideas that fascinate. We talk about spirituality, the mind, the ego, wellness and hidden history with tips, travels and tales. Charms for a better life.
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Good morning lovely people. This is Dr. Tijole Phillips and welcome to the Treehouse Studio. You're listening to Soul Decodes and I'm with Sarah Tyree. She's the founder of the Church of the Light Ages.
So we're going to probably hear a little bit about that. Not today. Not today. No, because I've got a bigger one today, but the next one.
What can be bigger than the Church of the Light Ages? Maybe we'll do that one. We'll switch them around. Maybe we'll do both. But you and I, we're so far behind. We've so much to catch up on.
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Before I go there, I want to first of all thank everybody that's listening. We have such good growth on this podcast. That's amazing. We just picked up Russia. So, spasiba. Love that. Yeah, we love you Russia.
My niece is coming next week and she was Russian. All right. Otsunaroshyou. So we're just grateful for all of you from every state, every country. You're all welcome here.
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Our goal is to bring everybody together. Not because we have to be together, but because we want to be together. And we want you to be entertained because that's really important. Because I get bored easily.
I know, right? So, yeah, we had to fill in this past year because Sarah's been so busy. I've been so busy. Not just busy, but productive. Active. There's a big difference between busy and productive. Yes, right. Yeah, so.
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But we've had to fill in some spare episodes. We do have some spares in case we can't make a Friday. But our promise to you is that we're going to come at you with something meaningful every Friday. Yes.
And sometimes if it's a cool week, maybe we'll throw a Wednesday in there or something or a Tuesday. But every Friday for sure. And that'll be after my niece goes back. And that will be in five weeks. We can start that up then.
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Okay. My little Russian niece. Love you Russia. Krasiviyya Dabushka. Oh, what does that mean? That means you're a beautiful girl. Oh, nice. Oh, God, that's a mouthful, isn't it?
Oh, there's a lot of languages or mouthfuls. Wait till you see the Cyrillic language. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I think it's beautiful. But so anyway, we're getting started here. It's kind of almost the new year with. Yes. Yeah.
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March coming up. It's my new year. Oh, yes. Yes. But for those of you who don't know, you know, this is a new podcast, but we've only got maybe 20 episodes under our belt. Some of these are really good. So go back and listen to some of the old ones and also check in at Earth Angel Project. We've got new podcasts coming on all the time. And we've got new podcasters joining the syndicate. So it's super exciting time. Yeah. But Sarah, take us away. Where are we going today?
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Okay, so I've spoken in a previous podcast. Have we published this one yet when I announced my plans to do a church? I think we do. Okay. So our listeners are familiar with that. So that took place today. So I'm going to talk about that on the next one. But this is the seventh of February 2025. And this is a special moment. So the one that I want to talk about today is when I met, so I'll just talk to the audience here. I met Tia Jolie, Divine Orchestration, and I was talking to her about my hot flashes.
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Okay, so I did what I needed to do holistically, and that didn't work. But there's reasons for that. And then my doctor thinks that he can help. Now I love him very much. He's great. But what they're doing is just shoving a load of medicine at you. So I bought it with me. And this is actually...
Oh my God. Oh, you're dropping bags of medicine places.
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I'm going to sell this when I get home.
What did you bring? Like this? Are we going to get raided?
Yeah, probably. That would be exciting. I hope we can do it live if we get raided.
Oh, well, crap. I don't have any weapons in my studio.
No weapons? Well, listen, we'll throw the pills out.
So my doctor has this idea, and modern medicine does, that they can get rid of the hot flashes by suppressing you somehow. So I went along with that. So I'm just going to read them out. Terasodone. Okay, that's an antidepressant.
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Okay.
I'm glad that's loud. It was right at the mic. So if we blew your eardrums out with that, I apologize.
This one's alrazapam, which is Xanax.
Don't shake in front of the mic.
All right, sorry. I won't. I won't.
I'm going to have to reduce the audio.
Oh, God, is it going to blast them?
Yeah, because when it's really sharp...
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When should I do it here then?
Yeah, just do it down here. It's fine. Anything in the circle, like a football in front of the microphone.
Oh, really?
Just imagine a football there. Anything you put in there, it could be maximum amplified.
Oh, I have to remember that.
It's a cardioid mic.
Oh, God. So, okay. I so want to do it now.
I know. Now you want to do it.
Okay, this is zolpidine and this is Ambien. This is a sleeping pill.
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I'll listen to you.
This is more terasodone. Now, I had three more, but I flushed them down the toilet. One of them was to lower my blood pressure.
So all the fish in your lake are totally asleep now.
They're loving it. Yeah, they're loving it.
So I ended up coming off the Xanax and three weeks, I'd been on it for two years. That was the most recent one.
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And I wasn't taking that much. I was taking about half a milligram. It's like this little white bar.
And it was two, yes, that's half. And then I weaned myself off. I had not a difficult time. I had actually a strange reaction.
But then I started looking at Xanax. Now, Jordan Peterson had and you should watch the video.
We put this in the show notes. I'll send this to you. It was a video and it's about his trip on the Joe Rogan show that he the trip he had with Xanax.
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Very, very interesting. And there's this doctor and I'll give Tierjolie the show note for that.
And he was talking about how bad it was and how it anyway, we can get into that.
So I'm off it. And I want to make kind of like a public awareness campaign out of this because the side effects and what this fucking drug does is unbelievable.
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It's terrible. It should not be on the market. I cannot even believe it's legal.
So usually when people walk into my office or walk into one of my studios with their medications, they're saying, I don't want to take these.
And last week, I don't know if I don't think I told you this because we haven't talked, but I was invited to be a speaker right there at the brand new Florida Blue on 27th, brand new building.
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They have a huge community center. Oh, lovely. Are they nice apartments?
Well, they're not apartments. It's actually a Florida Blue Community Center.
So it's the Blue Cross Blue Shield, but they're doing an outreach specifically for holistic natural health, nutrition, alternative therapies, all of these things that we've been talking about for years and years.
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Florida Blues kind of had this epiphany and they're saying, hey, we need to bring in these so-called fringe doctors.
Good. And they're finding so. So I got invited. The shaman.
I'm getting more and more speaking engagements, but they have me doing the end of March. I'm doing a gut.
Can I pop up? I'll go in disguise and I'll heckle you. You can heckle me.
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But the why don't you just save the heckling for here? Because you always do. I know I can't help it. It's a devil in me.
But it's really nice. It's kind of neat. What was that then? It's called Gut Babies. That's my seminar.
The idea is that you, Sarah Theria, you have this avatar, but this avatar is not just this interface to this three dimensional world.
It's actually a universe. You have a concoction of life forms on you and in you that are perfectly balanced.
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There's bacteria and fungus and just a bunch of life forms. It's weird.
But but you're the universe. You're the queen. You're the goddess of the universe, just like you've always wanted to be.
Yeah, I know. I've been just working on it. But you're you know, the idea is to keep everything in balance.
And sadly, a lot of times when we take pharmaceuticals, we intend to do good things, right? Yeah. I don't think that his intention was good.
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There's something I think their intention is good. But yeah, and he's like the candy man. He will just write anything.
Well, which means his intentions are not good, not by intention, but by dereliction.
So so in other words, you can you can send by error or omission, right?
So if you're if you're doing things and you don't know exactly what you're doing, but you're doing them anyway, then that's to me, that's.
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So should I write to him because I'm going to write a blog about this and just send it to him?
And I could do it anonymously because he's a nice guy. He's absolutely.
I mean, I think that the message is not just for an individual, but for the broader. See, I'd love to talk to him about it.
See what he thinks. My positioning with the medical world is not adversarial.
It's more getting them to understand that if you're a true medical professional, I don't care.
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Nurse practitioner, doctor, surgeon, whatever you think you are, whatever label you put on yourself,
the best of the best of you acknowledge that you've got a blind spot.
You've got a complete blind spot. And that is exactly what I feel.
Yeah, it's this idea that, look, people live for thousands and thousands of years before you even had a career.
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The whole idea of pharmaceuticals and medicine. So that was biblical, wasn't it?
You got Matthew's living to is like nine hundred and eighty or something.
I mean, the people would go to the plants, go to the go to the garden and they figure out what food, what plant, what what.
Because God would have created this to be self-sustaining.
There were people. Do you remember?
A hundred years ago, we weren't around, but there were stories about these healing mineral spas.
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These people would go to these hot baths, these sulfur baths.
They'd go in and their problems would disappear. Right.
So what I'm doing, they call this alternative nutrition.
I'm going to put I'm going to when I write this letter to my doctor, I'm going to put him in touch with you because and then because he's a reasonable guy.
Maybe he then could just consider.
I'm not I'm not looking to replace his business.
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No, but I'll make that clear.
This is very this is see in my world, medicine is complimentary.
What I do is the original medicine.
This is your sustaining. Yes.
There's no medicine that's life sustaining.
They're complimentary.
Oh, I would see that backwards.
Your life sustaining and then they come in if they're necessary.
I'll say it another way.
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They call themselves health care and that's they're not health or care.
They're not health or care.
What should we call them?
We I what I teach is health and care.
Health care system is a system.
They use health care as a marketing device.
They should take care out of it.
But health repair.
No, I think look, there's a better name.
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There's a couple of things that modern medicine does really well.
Antibiotics is great.
We'd have all been we were dying.
We were dying of toothache.
You can get antibiotics from from a tree from nature.
I had a guy from Nigeria.
I couldn't get things to him.
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I had two people three and four years ago.
I had one person from Nigeria, another one from the center of India.
I couldn't get them nutrients.
I couldn't get them anything.
So I literally had to coach them.
Both of them had necrotic bacterial infections.
So their legs were literally getting eaten by flesh eating bacteria.
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And that's deadly if you don't control it.
Well, yeah, but you know what?
I couldn't get them.
Necrolitis, flash of time.
I couldn't get them nutrients.
I couldn't get them.
So I had them wrapping, taking clean t-shirts.
Wrapping them in aloe vera because they could get aloe vera very readily.
And I would just have them replacing their gauze, just soaking it with aloe vera and soaking that because I couldn't do anything else for them.
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And guess what?
We reverse both of those modern medicine that couldn't do either of those.
They didn't have access and they didn't have.
And even if they did, it couldn't work.
Unbelievable.
Because it's not so beautiful.
So what I'm saying is that how would they psychologically afterwards?
They must have just thought.
Oh, whatever.
I mean, when you have a 14 year old and you saved his legs, are you kidding?
Unbelievable.
I mean, so to me, this is not unbelievable.
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This is normal.
I hear that all the time, but this is normal.
What's not normal is taking a chemical and put it in your body and expecting balance and beauty.
Have you taken chemicals that have worked?
I mean, I'm 62.
Like muscle relaxers or something?
Because some of them work, right?
I mean, look, if you need a muscle relaxant, why do you need a petroleum product?
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Those are petroleum products.
Most of them.
The natural one.
Yeah.
Why don't you just go, there's plenty of very natural compounds.
Look, you could do, you're from England.
You have all these teas, right?
Have you ever heard of chamomile tea?
Yes.
It doesn't make me sleep though.
It makes me wide awake.
I'm wired after that.
Okay.
Then maybe you would do something different.
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Well, no, no, it's because I have this really weird thing where I have a contrary reaction.
And I'll talk about that with my Xanax coming off.
It actually fired me through the roof.
Now Jordan's coming off his Xanax did the general one.
He nearly lost his mind for two years.
Had to go to Russia.
It was absolutely terrible.
So luckily I had this weird reaction.
Well, I don't speak about pharmaceuticals.
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It's a religion in and of itself.
But I'll just say that if you're in the medical system, you have a blind spot.
And that blind spot is all of the things that used to be taught by medicine, like original medicine, not your medicine.
If they're looking to hyperload of medicine on the masses, they're not going to tell you the alternative because then there's no money in that, right?
Well, that's the point.
But there is money in it.
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Well, for a few in big pharma, it's not that many.
And that's how they're getting their money.
If we knew that we could grow this stuff, we wouldn't need them, would we?
You don't even need to grow it.
I mean, one of my primary income sources is nutraceuticals.
These are medical grade nutrients, medical grade nutrients that have studies behind them that have actually, you know, this.
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Well, I talked to you about this.
There's this it's called the physician's desk reference.
It's like a big book index thing full of all the pharmaceuticals.
But nobody really listens.
Nobody comprehends that there's actually instead of pharma, which is pharmacy,
pharmaceuticals, there's nutra,
pharmaceuticals and one third of I have access to one third of the nutraceuticals in that book.
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So when I explain this to my medical doctors, see, again, if you're a medical doctor and you're enlightened,
you're still going to do your work.
You're still going to do your thing, but you're going to find me or somebody like me and say, take this approach first.
They do this first.
And then you can hit me up.
Yeah. I mean, if they understand, if they truly look at those, what is called the package insert,
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if you took Xanax, all right, and you looked at the look and you looked at the package,
it's called the P.I., the package insert.
There's a whole list.
It tells the chemical structure.
It shows the studies.
It shows all this fucking side effects.
I mean, one of them, you're going to have thoughts that you won't recognize as your own, potentially suicidal.
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I mean, constipation is the least of your worries on this.
Yeah. In my world, it's one of the worst things is constipation.
Yeah. But I mean, compared to having thoughts and not the answer.
So but the point is, like, you have to say, who am I?
Why am I here?
And what are these doing to me?
Is this is this enhancing my life or is it like, here's an example.
She worked. Didn't do anything.
Well, here's an example.
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There's one of my dear. He doesn't even know really who I am.
He knows who I am, but he doesn't know me as a friend.
His name's Dr. John Bergman.
Now, you call out to John Bergman.
John Bergman, we love you.
But he's in a come on as a guest, darling.
He's in Southern California.
He also opened up in Mexico because he knew that there were certain things that California is not going to let him do.
So we went to, I think, Tijuana or someplace just south of the border.
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So he's got two businesses.
He inspired me when I was getting my PhD.
But he's one of the most read, amazing doctors that I've ever known.
He's he's like you.
He's read. He reads so much.
But one of the things he's he'd said was he cited some studies about sleep pills, the sleeping agents.
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There's two things when you say one of the side effects is your sleepwalk.
And you won't even remember it. Like, fuck that.
Well, yeah. So one thing that you don't want to do is the reason you sleep is to rejuvenate yourself.
And there are certain things that happen while you sleep, like your liver.
If you're in deep sleep between 10 p.m. and 3 a.m., that's five hours of sleep, your liver is going recycle, reuse, recycle, reuse.
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It's going through all of these detoxifications.
Well, if you're up all night and you're in the backside of the circadian rhythm, you're not getting those deep sleep.
Yeah, that's what's happened to me.
That's why I'm on fire. Well, it's actually had a reverse effect.
But what's happening is your body is not detoxifying itself.
That's going to make you toxic. That's going to make you acidic.
And that's a precondition for cancer. I'm feeling great.
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Well, feeling great is transient, right?
You're feeling great until you're not feeling great. Yeah, I guess so.
But so sleeping pills, if you look at the actual numbers, you could take those pills and the average amount of sleep extra the average person gets is about 17 minutes.
Really? 17 minutes.
So you take...
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Well, before what? They get 17 minutes...
Relative to what they were sleeping beforehand. They get an extra 17 minutes.
So you have to say, on average, if I'm getting 17 more minutes, what am I missing?
Well, you're probably missing the really deep sleep.
What happens when you go deep sleep? A lot of really cool things like we say melatonin.
Well, what does melatonin do? Look it up. Melatonin is super important for the function of your brain.
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It doesn't just help you sleep. It drives you into that deep sleep.
There's like cycles of sleep. Those deep cycles of sleep are super important.
One of the things that happens is there's this it's like a 30 second to a minute flush.
When you're in that deep sleep, your cerebral spinal fluid, your brain literally it's like flushing the toilet.
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And it does it's less than a minute.
And you should see the electron scans the mic the electron scans of the brain when it happens.
It's freaking amazing because your brain actually flushes like a toilet.
All the toxins because if you think about how much energy your brain burns, it burns that it burns burns sugar because your brain needs sugar.
But also oxygen, 80 percent of the oxygen you use during the day is for your brain.
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Well, all that metabolic activity has to be purged out.
If you don't flush the toilet, it's going to back up. And then what happens when it backs up?
Well, how would if you were a neuron in your brain and you had to swim in your own toxicity, your own poop.
My neurons say lovely Sarah. You would be starting to misbehave. Oh, really?
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You'd be miss. If you if your neurons, if your cells had to swim in their own poop and pee and shit's going to go down.
How long do you think they're going to be functioning normally before they start getting most people don't notice?
Well, so that flush, it happens in about a minute.
It takes flush out and then the new cerebral spinal fluid gets flushed into the brain.
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So there's a flush just like your toilet. You push. Oh, it's lovely. It's a lovely metaphor.
But if you're not getting into this body is amazing, isn't it?
It does. So if you're not getting into that deep sleep, then you're not that you're not getting that flush.
Right. And then you get the new cerebral.
Well, when I came off all this, my sleep cycles really improved.
Remember, it was bad for three weeks and I kept telling you, I'm like, what the hell?
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I let it help two hours and that was two out. Well, I'd come off all these.
I'm I'm now three and I was detoxing coming off and weaning myself prior to three weeks ago.
But I don't actually share things like that.
I mean, I can tell you on the back end because I don't give any extra energy to it.
Right. So this is what I've been doing now.
But my my now my sleep cycle last night, I'm back up to four hours, which is great.
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And that hasn't been for five years. So I'm out of that shit.
Here we are. I think I know you. And then you bring in a bunch of pill bottles.
I knew I was going to tell you, but I won't.
I have a certain I don't give any energy to certain things.
I keep it to myself because I think you don't want your ego mind hijacking and making a drama.
You know, over talk about it. No, I'm getting well.
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I'm going to do this and I've done it. And that's how I operate.
Well, you're sovereign soul.
And if if I had something, I would expect that if you had something I could help you with that you would come and do it.
You just didn't know because I told you about my sleep.
And so I but I would have done had I been freaking out, I would have told you.
OK, so let's wrap up this sleep thing as just as an example.
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What does it take to sleep? Really?
It starts in your gut. Why?
There's you need a thing called serotonin.
A lot of people take these SSRIs, which are called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.
Where did it doesn't get? What are they? What pill is that?
Well, what would we know? There's a bunch of brand names for them, but SSRIs are anti.
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They call them antidepressants. OK, like the tracid.
OK, yeah, I don't like to use names. OK, that's fine.
It's just because I don't. Yeah, but I wouldn't know.
Yeah, a lot of people just most people don't know, don't care.
But but in SSRIs, they're usually given to people who are going through emotional issues, depression.
They need an uplift. Well, what does an SSRI do?
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Well, it doesn't give your serotonin.
Your serotonin is produced in your gut, your gut.
Ninety percent of your serotonin is produced in your gut.
What does it do? Well, it gives your gut your all of your tubes, your piping, all of the tubes of your gut.
When you have a poop that needs to be squeezed out.
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You all didn't know you're going to talk about poop today.
But when you need to be squeezed out, you need serotonin because that's the neurotransmitter.
So that's what you're meaning about constipation and you need serotonin to poop.
So if you're if you're if you're not if you're out of balance, you're not producing serotonin.
The serotonin is not I mean, that's the neurotransmitter that sequentially squeezes the poop out the hole.
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Right. If you don't know if you're not producing serotonin, the S1 configuration, you're not squeezing the poop out.
Well, if you don't if you don't have that serotonin, like most of us, hopefully sometime in our life,
has have produced this really robust poop.
And as soon as you poop it out, you're just feeling wonderful.
You're like, yes, the world is great.
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And you go on with your day and everything's great.
Well, that's because the serotonin is done with its job.
It squeezed the poop out. Now it's back in circulation, crosses the blood brain barrier and you feel great about your day.
OK, that's the serotonin. You feel good because the serotonin did its job.
You had serotonin to do the job.
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The serotonin did the job and now it's back in circulation.
All an SSRI does is says, hey, that good feeling, keep it there.
But if it wasn't there to begin with, that's useless. Yes, of course.
It's not introducing serotonin.
It's just taking whatever scrap it can find and saving it for being saving it for being reuptake into your tissue out of circulation.
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So the S1 configuration crosses the blood brain barrier.
I'm not a biochemist, but I'm told it's through tryptophan and then it's configured in your brain as an S2 configuration.
It's the same molecule. It's just twisted a different way.
And then that's the precursor for melatonin.
So if you need melatonin, but your gut doesn't produce serotonin, you can't get it.
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You need you need to get the gut working so you can get a good poop.
Then it can be put back into circulation, cross your blood brain barrier into your brain.
Now you've got S2. You're feeling good all day.
Nighttime comes, your circadian rhythm says, let's time to shut this down.
Shut off the screens. Listen to soft music. Listen. Watch the sunset.
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Look at those frequencies of the sunset.
Those frequencies are going to come into your eyes and start to trigger different neurotransmitters,
different chemicals in your brain to say, OK, it's time to shut down.
And it's time to generate melatonin. That's going to bring your deep sleep.
Right. So it's all connected. It's so beautiful.
And why wouldn't have God designed it like this?
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You don't need chemistry to do it. You don't. You have your own chemistry.
You need to start your own nutraceutical company.
Well, you are. You are your nutraceutical company.
But you need to start one to help people.
Well, I guess that's what you're part of now.
We can talk about that. Yeah. Yeah.
The problem is there's only like one of me right now.
Well, you'll have to get an avatar, darling.
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I've got to clone you.
I've got to clone myself.
So anyway, sorry, I didn't know. I never know from day to day what we're going to talk about.
But basically your gut health. Oh, and that flush.
When you flush your cerebral spinal fluid flushes your brain and gets rid of the waste.
It flushes into your it basically puts it in circulation.
Now your your liver has all the toxins from your brain from the previous day.
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And then you're going to end up getting rid of it.
You're going to pee it out, poop it out, sweat it out.
Such a magnificent design. It's so beautiful.
Yeah. And then the new fluid that came in, where did that cerebral spinal fluid come from?
Well, that's just super clean plasma.
So the cleaner we can make your blood, the cleaner we can make your blood.
And by the way, people say, oh, my blood's terrible.
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Your blood's going to replace itself every four months.
So four months from now, every drop of blood.
That's what you said to me the other day.
Every blood, every drop of blood is going to be brand new.
So let's spend four months just cleaning up everything.
Yeah. Yeah.
Then your blood's clean, your interstitium clean, your synovial fluid.
You have all my joints.
Tony's not going to recognize me. He's going to. Oh, my God.
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So your joints, everything and your cerebral spinal fluid.
The cleaner you make your blood.
And I felt so healthy. So what happens?
So let me just enlighten you.
So these are going back a few years and then I haven't talked to the listeners about Sally.
My sister-in-law died and then I had to go to England and I took these annexes
because just in case it got too emotional and I knew about the time change.
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So that's when I got back on them again.
So when was that? When did I go? I think it was September.
So then I had to wean myself off. So it wasn't a big deal.
And they couldn't have been in my system because I hadn't been.
I think right around the time I met you.
But I'm glad I went through that. I'm really glad because it's nice to know shit.
I mean, most people just think this is, oh, just take it. No, don't do that.
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Now, my reaction was actually OK. It was one in a few.
But listen to Jordan Peterson's reaction.
And he said it's most terrifying experience to come off these.
So people just stay on them because they're told this will be the worst fucking thing that's happened to you coming off these.
So now they're just terrified.
Yeah, you're going to end up there's a Joe Rogan had a.
That was him talking to Jordan. Yeah.
Yeah. But he was also he has other guests. I don't really listen to too many of other podcasts.
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I listen to zero of Jordan Peterson. So I would have never done all his now.
Yeah. Joe Rogan, I listen to some depends on who the guest.
One of them was Rick Perry. He's the guy from is the senator or the governor from Texas.
He did a really good episode maybe a couple of months ago on the it's called Ibogaine, IBO GAI and Ibogaine.
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We've known about this for years. What is it? It's one and done.
It's it's I guess a derivative from psychedelic mushrooms. Oh, lovely.
But once you what happens is it's it's on the black market and too many people don't know how to have taken it.
No, I've not. You go. No, I got I create my own.
I want to I want to take one to see what anyway carry on your body can create those yourself.
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So what is it doing? Is it giving people the can I see the quantum field on this?
This is like doing a mushroom trip. The answer is yes.
That's what happens. But more importantly, it realigns your wiring in your brain.
So let's just see you have a heroin addict.
You have a hero and they're just or even an alcoholic.
Even people who are suffering from their playing their you and I both listen to Joe Dispenza.
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He's like he teaches he teaches the same way I listen to him.
He's unbelievable. Stop playing the old movies.
Create new ones. Right. But these people create these neuronal pathways where they're replaying these old childhood
traumas and these traumas from their previous.
I've done it. Yeah.
You keep replaying these and you're burning.
You're burning that into your memory screen.
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You're burning that into the neuronal pathways.
Yeah. Well, what do you seem to do?
But you can retrain those in 28 days.
Yeah, but what the Ibogaine does is those people who are addictive, they're addicted to ABC 123, whatever it is.
It seems that the Ibogaine helps you rewire those neuronal pathways.
The problem with it is it's so effective at getting people off of drugs that they placed it as a class one
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pharmaceutical, therefore nobody can write it any everywhere.
I cannot. So it's completely criminal what's going on.
Go listen. You can go back and listen.
I'm going to. I'll put a link in the show notes.
Text me later because I want to listen to that tonight.
But there's such a, you know, there's so much science and studies behind it.
But the bottom line for the, I don't want to confuse people.
You can overdose on this Ibogaine.
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You can actually kill yourself with it.
Oh, God. So if you go to the...
You can't kill yourself actually because you're immortal.
But you know, you have to come back in another body.
You have to come back and redo it. Go back to the end of the line.
Oh, that would be horrible.
You don't get a speed pass. You go to the end of the line.
Rebound.
But you know, these people that go to these shamans and stuff and they have these trips.
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Well, you want to make sure that you're doing this.
What they're doing now is micro dosing.
So instead of you going for a day or two and having these monster trips and you're just freaking all over the place.
What they're recognizing is that the secret is to micro dose.
My friend's, my son's friend is doing that.
Yes. So what you want to do is micro dose over a period of time, maybe 10 days or two weeks.
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I want to try it.
But this is under a professional care.
And if medical doctors really want to serve the world, they're going to push back and get this Ibogaine.
If you really want these drug people...
What fence is making the decision? Have you got the good guys or the bad guys in control?
Well, that's going to change. It's in the process of changing.
Good. I'm glad to fucking hear.
Yeah, because the reason I know this is because we've been, we being holistic practitioners,
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we've been waving the flag on Ibogaine and things like it for years.
But the government is not going to want a potentially enlightened people, do they?
That's why they, that's why pot hasn't been legal.
But that's why I know that things are changing.
Because when I brought up stuff like this 10 years ago, 15 years ago, my YouTube was censored.
My Twitter was censored.
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I've been censored every direction.
But the fact that Joe Rogan could talk to Rick Perry to literally millions of people about Ibogaine
and it's still up there and it's not censored and it's not taken down.
That means we won the war. We've won the information war.
Now we're in this place where people can actually talk about this stuff.
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You and I can have this discussion.
I'm not worried about this podcast being taken down.
Let's do another one.
We're sharing good information that's actually going to change the world.
We're helping these, and I have a soft spot for veterans.
I'm a veteran.
There's so many veterans addicted to so many things that this Ibogaine is a lifesaver.
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It's a life changer for them.
Can you grow it?
So we could have a completely separate episode.
OK, let's do that.
But the answer is yes, because ultimately all of these compounds are grown.
But the whole study of mycology, you know what mycology is?
Yes.
So anybody who doesn't, if something ends in ology, that means the study of, and myco is our funguses.
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When I was in England, I watched a two hour special on that.
It was unbelievable.
Mycology is the thing of the future.
But it's not just one thing.
I think I heard that we are fungi.
Fungi has been this massive force, maybe we're not fungi, but fungi has been this massive force during our evolution here.
And then you think, and then anyway, I'm going to I'll send you the link to this show.
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It was unbelievable.
I can't even believe it.
Yeah. And the idea is that, and what Sarah's mentioning is very solid because this is not a one thing.
Like we're not a one trick pony.
Like we are very, very powerful.
So we have this complete system.
It's called the cannibinoid system.
Cannibinoid.
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Not all of them, but most of your cellular membranes have these little portals that are responsive to cannibinoids.
That would be cannabis, CBG, which is the mother molecule, and 140s, whatever number it is.
I've grown some cannabis very successfully.
Yeah.
So the cannibinoids actually have different effects on the membranes.
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Like one of the things I bring to market operates, you know, when people smoke a joint, sometimes they get a munchy, right?
Yeah, that's how well there's also a cannibinoid that down regulates that munchiness.
So it suppresses the appetite, but people don't know about it.
That would be good.
Then you're not going to have all the weight gain, but all the health benefits.
The same exact mechanism.
Instead of getting the monkey monkeys, the munchies, instead of getting the munchies, you're getting rid of the munchies.
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You can actually suppress it.
So you can have different compounds, different compounds that actually affect the membranes,
therefore affect the cellular activities in different ways.
So there's so much here, but it's not a one time.
Like ibogaine is not the answer.
You still have to deal with the emotional stuff.
Yes.
You have to still dance with your shadows.
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I have to go and get my carpets clean now because Stanley Steen were coming.
Let's pick up on that because that's the next part I want to talk to you about.
It's the emotions that are going to be causing your necessity to be ill.
This is going to be really good because this is central to one of my other presentations I do.
It's called Whole Body Power and Beauty.
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And when you look at the autonomic nervous system, because there are certain things that happen.
Like this whole time you and I have been talking, you didn't think once about your breathing, swallowing.
I've been holding my breath.
Holding your breath.
But you don't think about those things, they're automatic.
Yes.
And there's two basic modes.
There's the peace mode where it's called the parasympathetic mode,
which is where all the good things happen, you know, the hormones and all this stuff,
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the breast repair, the deep sleep, good sex.
All of those things happen when you're not stressed.
Most people are in the sympathetic mode, which is stress.
And they don't even know it, do they?
It's the money. It's the kid.
It's the stupid neighbor.
It's always all this stuff.
That's the ego mind.
And everything is all so important.
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Because we've got awareness and the ego mind.
Everything is important.
Yeah.
It's not that I'm being chased by Mama Bear, because that, you need to be stressed for that.
You need to get out of the way.
Yes, it has its uses.
Yeah.
But they're under chronic stress because the Kardashians are wearing the wrong collar today or whatever.
And they're stressed about this crap stuff.
And they're driving them.
And they wonder why their thyroid is down regulated.
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Well, if you're under chronic stress and you expect your thyroid to function, you're in a, you're not, you don't know how your body works.
Yeah.
So we can talk about those things.
Let's talk about that.
And we'll talk about, we might have to make this a few because there's so much to say about this.
Look, whatever you want.
I'm just happy that you're here.
We need to come up, maybe, maybe, oh, you know, one thing we have to do too is intro music, outro music.
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Oh, my God.
That would be interesting.
We do those and I'm thinking maracas.
We need to do like a...
Well, I thought that's so weird.
I thought I was going to make you a maraca because you can have your guitar.
I'm going to put those, I'm going to make you a maraca.
I need to find like a theme song for the intro here that's got the maracas.
Oh, it's got to be Spanish to some degree.
Some sort of a Spanish vibe, right?
Especially because it's south of the border.
Oh, we could, yeah, we'll figure it out.
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Yeah.
But anyway, so let's wrap it up.
Any final thoughts?
No, because this is not a final one, but I want to talk about the emotional side of what we're talking about here.
So we'll do that on the next one.
Got to get my carpets clean.
My niece is coming.
Don't want her judging me.
I'd tell her to keep her room clean.
She can't have your niece judge you about your carpets, right?
And they're white.
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So once again, we're going to wrap up today, but we absolutely love, you all are so amazing.
You're the best audience ever.
Even though we're small, but growing.
Oh, I love it.
So exciting.
You are doing such a good job sharing with other people.
If you find something useful, even if it's a past episode, we're just really grateful for you sharing.
And let us know if you want us to talk about anything because nothing's off limits.
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Truly, we talk about everything, even poop.
OK, my dear, thanks for coming by Philips Island.
All right, be well. Bye bye.
Bye.
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Good morning lovely people. This is Dr. Tijole Phillips and welcome to the Treehouse Studio. You're listening to Soul Decodes and I'm with Sarah Tyree. She's the founder of the Church of the Light Ages.
So we're going to probably hear a little bit about that. Not today. Not today. No, because I've got a bigger one today, but the next one.
What can be bigger than the Church of the Light Ages? Maybe we'll do that one. We'll switch them around. Maybe we'll do both. But you and I, we're so far behind. We've so much to catch up on.
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Before I go there, I want to first of all thank everybody that's listening. We have such good growth on this podcast. That's amazing. We just picked up Russia. So, spasiba. Love that. Yeah, we love you Russia.
My niece is coming next week and she was Russian. All right. Otsunaroshyou. So we're just grateful for all of you from every state, every country. You're all welcome here.
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Our goal is to bring everybody together. Not because we have to be together, but because we want to be together. And we want you to be entertained because that's really important. Because I get bored easily.
I know, right? So, yeah, we had to fill in this past year because Sarah's been so busy. I've been so busy. Not just busy, but productive. Active. There's a big difference between busy and productive. Yes, right. Yeah, so.
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But we've had to fill in some spare episodes. We do have some spares in case we can't make a Friday. But our promise to you is that we're going to come at you with something meaningful every Friday. Yes.
And sometimes if it's a cool week, maybe we'll throw a Wednesday in there or something or a Tuesday. But every Friday for sure. And that'll be after my niece goes back. And that will be in five weeks. We can start that up then.
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Okay. My little Russian niece. Love you Russia. Krasiviyya Dabushka. Oh, what does that mean? That means you're a beautiful girl. Oh, nice. Oh, God, that's a mouthful, isn't it?
Oh, there's a lot of languages or mouthfuls. Wait till you see the Cyrillic language. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I think it's beautiful. But so anyway, we're getting started here. It's kind of almost the new year with. Yes. Yeah.
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March coming up. It's my new year. Oh, yes. Yes. But for those of you who don't know, you know, this is a new podcast, but we've only got maybe 20 episodes under our belt. Some of these are really good. So go back and listen to some of the old ones and also check in at Earth Angel Project. We've got new podcasts coming on all the time. And we've got new podcasters joining the syndicate. So it's super exciting time. Yeah. But Sarah, take us away. Where are we going today?
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Okay, so I've spoken in a previous podcast. Have we published this one yet when I announced my plans to do a church? I think we do. Okay. So our listeners are familiar with that. So that took place today. So I'm going to talk about that on the next one. But this is the seventh of February 2025. And this is a special moment. So the one that I want to talk about today is when I met, so I'll just talk to the audience here. I met Tia Jolie, Divine Orchestration, and I was talking to her about my hot flashes.
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Okay, so I did what I needed to do holistically, and that didn't work. But there's reasons for that. And then my doctor thinks that he can help. Now I love him very much. He's great. But what they're doing is just shoving a load of medicine at you. So I bought it with me. And this is actually...
Oh my God. Oh, you're dropping bags of medicine places.
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I'm going to sell this when I get home.
What did you bring? Like this? Are we going to get raided?
Yeah, probably. That would be exciting. I hope we can do it live if we get raided.
Oh, well, crap. I don't have any weapons in my studio.
No weapons? Well, listen, we'll throw the pills out.
So my doctor has this idea, and modern medicine does, that they can get rid of the hot flashes by suppressing you somehow. So I went along with that. So I'm just going to read them out. Terasodone. Okay, that's an antidepressant.
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Okay.
I'm glad that's loud. It was right at the mic. So if we blew your eardrums out with that, I apologize.
This one's alrazapam, which is Xanax.
Don't shake in front of the mic.
All right, sorry. I won't. I won't.
I'm going to have to reduce the audio.
Oh, God, is it going to blast them?
Yeah, because when it's really sharp...
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When should I do it here then?
Yeah, just do it down here. It's fine. Anything in the circle, like a football in front of the microphone.
Oh, really?
Just imagine a football there. Anything you put in there, it could be maximum amplified.
Oh, I have to remember that.
It's a cardioid mic.
Oh, God. So, okay. I so want to do it now.
I know. Now you want to do it.
Okay, this is zolpidine and this is Ambien. This is a sleeping pill.
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I'll listen to you.
This is more terasodone. Now, I had three more, but I flushed them down the toilet. One of them was to lower my blood pressure.
So all the fish in your lake are totally asleep now.
They're loving it. Yeah, they're loving it.
So I ended up coming off the Xanax and three weeks, I'd been on it for two years. That was the most recent one.
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And I wasn't taking that much. I was taking about half a milligram. It's like this little white bar.
And it was two, yes, that's half. And then I weaned myself off. I had not a difficult time. I had actually a strange reaction.
But then I started looking at Xanax. Now, Jordan Peterson had and you should watch the video.
We put this in the show notes. I'll send this to you. It was a video and it's about his trip on the Joe Rogan show that he the trip he had with Xanax.
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Very, very interesting. And there's this doctor and I'll give Tierjolie the show note for that.
And he was talking about how bad it was and how it anyway, we can get into that.
So I'm off it. And I want to make kind of like a public awareness campaign out of this because the side effects and what this fucking drug does is unbelievable.
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It's terrible. It should not be on the market. I cannot even believe it's legal.
So usually when people walk into my office or walk into one of my studios with their medications, they're saying, I don't want to take these.
And last week, I don't know if I don't think I told you this because we haven't talked, but I was invited to be a speaker right there at the brand new Florida Blue on 27th, brand new building.
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They have a huge community center. Oh, lovely. Are they nice apartments?
Well, they're not apartments. It's actually a Florida Blue Community Center.
So it's the Blue Cross Blue Shield, but they're doing an outreach specifically for holistic natural health, nutrition, alternative therapies, all of these things that we've been talking about for years and years.
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Florida Blues kind of had this epiphany and they're saying, hey, we need to bring in these so-called fringe doctors.
Good. And they're finding so. So I got invited. The shaman.
I'm getting more and more speaking engagements, but they have me doing the end of March. I'm doing a gut.
Can I pop up? I'll go in disguise and I'll heckle you. You can heckle me.
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But the why don't you just save the heckling for here? Because you always do. I know I can't help it. It's a devil in me.
But it's really nice. It's kind of neat. What was that then? It's called Gut Babies. That's my seminar.
The idea is that you, Sarah Theria, you have this avatar, but this avatar is not just this interface to this three dimensional world.
It's actually a universe. You have a concoction of life forms on you and in you that are perfectly balanced.
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There's bacteria and fungus and just a bunch of life forms. It's weird.
But but you're the universe. You're the queen. You're the goddess of the universe, just like you've always wanted to be.
Yeah, I know. I've been just working on it. But you're you know, the idea is to keep everything in balance.
And sadly, a lot of times when we take pharmaceuticals, we intend to do good things, right? Yeah. I don't think that his intention was good.
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There's something I think their intention is good. But yeah, and he's like the candy man. He will just write anything.
Well, which means his intentions are not good, not by intention, but by dereliction.
So so in other words, you can you can send by error or omission, right?
So if you're if you're doing things and you don't know exactly what you're doing, but you're doing them anyway, then that's to me, that's.
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So should I write to him because I'm going to write a blog about this and just send it to him?
And I could do it anonymously because he's a nice guy. He's absolutely.
I mean, I think that the message is not just for an individual, but for the broader. See, I'd love to talk to him about it.
See what he thinks. My positioning with the medical world is not adversarial.
It's more getting them to understand that if you're a true medical professional, I don't care.
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Nurse practitioner, doctor, surgeon, whatever you think you are, whatever label you put on yourself,
the best of the best of you acknowledge that you've got a blind spot.
You've got a complete blind spot. And that is exactly what I feel.
Yeah, it's this idea that, look, people live for thousands and thousands of years before you even had a career.
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The whole idea of pharmaceuticals and medicine. So that was biblical, wasn't it?
You got Matthew's living to is like nine hundred and eighty or something.
I mean, the people would go to the plants, go to the go to the garden and they figure out what food, what plant, what what.
Because God would have created this to be self-sustaining.
There were people. Do you remember?
A hundred years ago, we weren't around, but there were stories about these healing mineral spas.
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These people would go to these hot baths, these sulfur baths.
They'd go in and their problems would disappear. Right.
So what I'm doing, they call this alternative nutrition.
I'm going to put I'm going to when I write this letter to my doctor, I'm going to put him in touch with you because and then because he's a reasonable guy.
Maybe he then could just consider.
I'm not I'm not looking to replace his business.
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No, but I'll make that clear.
This is very this is see in my world, medicine is complimentary.
What I do is the original medicine.
This is your sustaining. Yes.
There's no medicine that's life sustaining.
They're complimentary.
Oh, I would see that backwards.
Your life sustaining and then they come in if they're necessary.
I'll say it another way.
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They call themselves health care and that's they're not health or care.
They're not health or care.
What should we call them?
We I what I teach is health and care.
Health care system is a system.
They use health care as a marketing device.
They should take care out of it.
But health repair.
No, I think look, there's a better name.
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There's a couple of things that modern medicine does really well.
Antibiotics is great.
We'd have all been we were dying.
We were dying of toothache.
You can get antibiotics from from a tree from nature.
I had a guy from Nigeria.
I couldn't get things to him.
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I had two people three and four years ago.
I had one person from Nigeria, another one from the center of India.
I couldn't get them nutrients.
I couldn't get them anything.
So I literally had to coach them.
Both of them had necrotic bacterial infections.
So their legs were literally getting eaten by flesh eating bacteria.
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And that's deadly if you don't control it.
Well, yeah, but you know what?
I couldn't get them.
Necrolitis, flash of time.
I couldn't get them nutrients.
I couldn't get them.
So I had them wrapping, taking clean t-shirts.
Wrapping them in aloe vera because they could get aloe vera very readily.
And I would just have them replacing their gauze, just soaking it with aloe vera and soaking that because I couldn't do anything else for them.
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And guess what?
We reverse both of those modern medicine that couldn't do either of those.
They didn't have access and they didn't have.
And even if they did, it couldn't work.
Unbelievable.
Because it's not so beautiful.
So what I'm saying is that how would they psychologically afterwards?
They must have just thought.
Oh, whatever.
I mean, when you have a 14 year old and you saved his legs, are you kidding?
Unbelievable.
I mean, so to me, this is not unbelievable.
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This is normal.
I hear that all the time, but this is normal.
What's not normal is taking a chemical and put it in your body and expecting balance and beauty.
Have you taken chemicals that have worked?
I mean, I'm 62.
Like muscle relaxers or something?
Because some of them work, right?
I mean, look, if you need a muscle relaxant, why do you need a petroleum product?
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Those are petroleum products.
Most of them.
The natural one.
Yeah.
Why don't you just go, there's plenty of very natural compounds.
Look, you could do, you're from England.
You have all these teas, right?
Have you ever heard of chamomile tea?
Yes.
It doesn't make me sleep though.
It makes me wide awake.
I'm wired after that.
Okay.
Then maybe you would do something different.
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Well, no, no, it's because I have this really weird thing where I have a contrary reaction.
And I'll talk about that with my Xanax coming off.
It actually fired me through the roof.
Now Jordan's coming off his Xanax did the general one.
He nearly lost his mind for two years.
Had to go to Russia.
It was absolutely terrible.
So luckily I had this weird reaction.
Well, I don't speak about pharmaceuticals.
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It's a religion in and of itself.
But I'll just say that if you're in the medical system, you have a blind spot.
And that blind spot is all of the things that used to be taught by medicine, like original medicine, not your medicine.
If they're looking to hyperload of medicine on the masses, they're not going to tell you the alternative because then there's no money in that, right?
Well, that's the point.
But there is money in it.
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Well, for a few in big pharma, it's not that many.
And that's how they're getting their money.
If we knew that we could grow this stuff, we wouldn't need them, would we?
You don't even need to grow it.
I mean, one of my primary income sources is nutraceuticals.
These are medical grade nutrients, medical grade nutrients that have studies behind them that have actually, you know, this.
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Well, I talked to you about this.
There's this it's called the physician's desk reference.
It's like a big book index thing full of all the pharmaceuticals.
But nobody really listens.
Nobody comprehends that there's actually instead of pharma, which is pharmacy,
pharmaceuticals, there's nutra,
pharmaceuticals and one third of I have access to one third of the nutraceuticals in that book.
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So when I explain this to my medical doctors, see, again, if you're a medical doctor and you're enlightened,
you're still going to do your work.
You're still going to do your thing, but you're going to find me or somebody like me and say, take this approach first.
They do this first.
And then you can hit me up.
Yeah. I mean, if they understand, if they truly look at those, what is called the package insert,
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if you took Xanax, all right, and you looked at the look and you looked at the package,
it's called the P.I., the package insert.
There's a whole list.
It tells the chemical structure.
It shows the studies.
It shows all this fucking side effects.
I mean, one of them, you're going to have thoughts that you won't recognize as your own, potentially suicidal.
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I mean, constipation is the least of your worries on this.
Yeah. In my world, it's one of the worst things is constipation.
Yeah. But I mean, compared to having thoughts and not the answer.
So but the point is, like, you have to say, who am I?
Why am I here?
And what are these doing to me?
Is this is this enhancing my life or is it like, here's an example.
She worked. Didn't do anything.
Well, here's an example.
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There's one of my dear. He doesn't even know really who I am.
He knows who I am, but he doesn't know me as a friend.
His name's Dr. John Bergman.
Now, you call out to John Bergman.
John Bergman, we love you.
But he's in a come on as a guest, darling.
He's in Southern California.
He also opened up in Mexico because he knew that there were certain things that California is not going to let him do.
So we went to, I think, Tijuana or someplace just south of the border.
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So he's got two businesses.
He inspired me when I was getting my PhD.
But he's one of the most read, amazing doctors that I've ever known.
He's he's like you.
He's read. He reads so much.
But one of the things he's he'd said was he cited some studies about sleep pills, the sleeping agents.
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There's two things when you say one of the side effects is your sleepwalk.
And you won't even remember it. Like, fuck that.
Well, yeah. So one thing that you don't want to do is the reason you sleep is to rejuvenate yourself.
And there are certain things that happen while you sleep, like your liver.
If you're in deep sleep between 10 p.m. and 3 a.m., that's five hours of sleep, your liver is going recycle, reuse, recycle, reuse.
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It's going through all of these detoxifications.
Well, if you're up all night and you're in the backside of the circadian rhythm, you're not getting those deep sleep.
Yeah, that's what's happened to me.
That's why I'm on fire. Well, it's actually had a reverse effect.
But what's happening is your body is not detoxifying itself.
That's going to make you toxic. That's going to make you acidic.
And that's a precondition for cancer. I'm feeling great.
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Well, feeling great is transient, right?
You're feeling great until you're not feeling great. Yeah, I guess so.
But so sleeping pills, if you look at the actual numbers, you could take those pills and the average amount of sleep extra the average person gets is about 17 minutes.
Really? 17 minutes.
So you take...
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Well, before what? They get 17 minutes...
Relative to what they were sleeping beforehand. They get an extra 17 minutes.
So you have to say, on average, if I'm getting 17 more minutes, what am I missing?
Well, you're probably missing the really deep sleep.
What happens when you go deep sleep? A lot of really cool things like we say melatonin.
Well, what does melatonin do? Look it up. Melatonin is super important for the function of your brain.
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It doesn't just help you sleep. It drives you into that deep sleep.
There's like cycles of sleep. Those deep cycles of sleep are super important.
One of the things that happens is there's this it's like a 30 second to a minute flush.
When you're in that deep sleep, your cerebral spinal fluid, your brain literally it's like flushing the toilet.
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And it does it's less than a minute.
And you should see the electron scans the mic the electron scans of the brain when it happens.
It's freaking amazing because your brain actually flushes like a toilet.
All the toxins because if you think about how much energy your brain burns, it burns that it burns burns sugar because your brain needs sugar.
But also oxygen, 80 percent of the oxygen you use during the day is for your brain.
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Well, all that metabolic activity has to be purged out.
If you don't flush the toilet, it's going to back up. And then what happens when it backs up?
Well, how would if you were a neuron in your brain and you had to swim in your own toxicity, your own poop.
My neurons say lovely Sarah. You would be starting to misbehave. Oh, really?
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You'd be miss. If you if your neurons, if your cells had to swim in their own poop and pee and shit's going to go down.
How long do you think they're going to be functioning normally before they start getting most people don't notice?
Well, so that flush, it happens in about a minute.
It takes flush out and then the new cerebral spinal fluid gets flushed into the brain.
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So there's a flush just like your toilet. You push. Oh, it's lovely. It's a lovely metaphor.
But if you're not getting into this body is amazing, isn't it?
It does. So if you're not getting into that deep sleep, then you're not that you're not getting that flush.
Right. And then you get the new cerebral.
Well, when I came off all this, my sleep cycles really improved.
Remember, it was bad for three weeks and I kept telling you, I'm like, what the hell?
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I let it help two hours and that was two out. Well, I'd come off all these.
I'm I'm now three and I was detoxing coming off and weaning myself prior to three weeks ago.
But I don't actually share things like that.
I mean, I can tell you on the back end because I don't give any extra energy to it.
Right. So this is what I've been doing now.
But my my now my sleep cycle last night, I'm back up to four hours, which is great.
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And that hasn't been for five years. So I'm out of that shit.
Here we are. I think I know you. And then you bring in a bunch of pill bottles.
I knew I was going to tell you, but I won't.
I have a certain I don't give any energy to certain things.
I keep it to myself because I think you don't want your ego mind hijacking and making a drama.
You know, over talk about it. No, I'm getting well.
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I'm going to do this and I've done it. And that's how I operate.
Well, you're sovereign soul.
And if if I had something, I would expect that if you had something I could help you with that you would come and do it.
You just didn't know because I told you about my sleep.
And so I but I would have done had I been freaking out, I would have told you.
OK, so let's wrap up this sleep thing as just as an example.
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What does it take to sleep? Really?
It starts in your gut. Why?
There's you need a thing called serotonin.
A lot of people take these SSRIs, which are called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.
Where did it doesn't get? What are they? What pill is that?
Well, what would we know? There's a bunch of brand names for them, but SSRIs are anti.
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They call them antidepressants. OK, like the tracid.
OK, yeah, I don't like to use names. OK, that's fine.
It's just because I don't. Yeah, but I wouldn't know.
Yeah, a lot of people just most people don't know, don't care.
But but in SSRIs, they're usually given to people who are going through emotional issues, depression.
They need an uplift. Well, what does an SSRI do?
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Well, it doesn't give your serotonin.
Your serotonin is produced in your gut, your gut.
Ninety percent of your serotonin is produced in your gut.
What does it do? Well, it gives your gut your all of your tubes, your piping, all of the tubes of your gut.
When you have a poop that needs to be squeezed out.
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You all didn't know you're going to talk about poop today.
But when you need to be squeezed out, you need serotonin because that's the neurotransmitter.
So that's what you're meaning about constipation and you need serotonin to poop.
So if you're if you're if you're not if you're out of balance, you're not producing serotonin.
The serotonin is not I mean, that's the neurotransmitter that sequentially squeezes the poop out the hole.
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Right. If you don't know if you're not producing serotonin, the S1 configuration, you're not squeezing the poop out.
Well, if you don't if you don't have that serotonin, like most of us, hopefully sometime in our life,
has have produced this really robust poop.
And as soon as you poop it out, you're just feeling wonderful.
You're like, yes, the world is great.
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And you go on with your day and everything's great.
Well, that's because the serotonin is done with its job.
It squeezed the poop out. Now it's back in circulation, crosses the blood brain barrier and you feel great about your day.
OK, that's the serotonin. You feel good because the serotonin did its job.
You had serotonin to do the job.
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The serotonin did the job and now it's back in circulation.
All an SSRI does is says, hey, that good feeling, keep it there.
But if it wasn't there to begin with, that's useless. Yes, of course.
It's not introducing serotonin.
It's just taking whatever scrap it can find and saving it for being saving it for being reuptake into your tissue out of circulation.
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So the S1 configuration crosses the blood brain barrier.
I'm not a biochemist, but I'm told it's through tryptophan and then it's configured in your brain as an S2 configuration.
It's the same molecule. It's just twisted a different way.
And then that's the precursor for melatonin.
So if you need melatonin, but your gut doesn't produce serotonin, you can't get it.
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You need you need to get the gut working so you can get a good poop.
Then it can be put back into circulation, cross your blood brain barrier into your brain.
Now you've got S2. You're feeling good all day.
Nighttime comes, your circadian rhythm says, let's time to shut this down.
Shut off the screens. Listen to soft music. Listen. Watch the sunset.
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Look at those frequencies of the sunset.
Those frequencies are going to come into your eyes and start to trigger different neurotransmitters,
different chemicals in your brain to say, OK, it's time to shut down.
And it's time to generate melatonin. That's going to bring your deep sleep.
Right. So it's all connected. It's so beautiful.
And why wouldn't have God designed it like this?
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You don't need chemistry to do it. You don't. You have your own chemistry.
You need to start your own nutraceutical company.
Well, you are. You are your nutraceutical company.
But you need to start one to help people.
Well, I guess that's what you're part of now.
We can talk about that. Yeah. Yeah.
The problem is there's only like one of me right now.
Well, you'll have to get an avatar, darling.
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I've got to clone you.
I've got to clone myself.
So anyway, sorry, I didn't know. I never know from day to day what we're going to talk about.
But basically your gut health. Oh, and that flush.
When you flush your cerebral spinal fluid flushes your brain and gets rid of the waste.
It flushes into your it basically puts it in circulation.
Now your your liver has all the toxins from your brain from the previous day.
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And then you're going to end up getting rid of it.
You're going to pee it out, poop it out, sweat it out.
Such a magnificent design. It's so beautiful.
Yeah. And then the new fluid that came in, where did that cerebral spinal fluid come from?
Well, that's just super clean plasma.
So the cleaner we can make your blood, the cleaner we can make your blood.
And by the way, people say, oh, my blood's terrible.
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Your blood's going to replace itself every four months.
So four months from now, every drop of blood.
That's what you said to me the other day.
Every blood, every drop of blood is going to be brand new.
So let's spend four months just cleaning up everything.
Yeah. Yeah.
Then your blood's clean, your interstitium clean, your synovial fluid.
You have all my joints.
Tony's not going to recognize me. He's going to. Oh, my God.
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So your joints, everything and your cerebral spinal fluid.
The cleaner you make your blood.
And I felt so healthy. So what happens?
So let me just enlighten you.
So these are going back a few years and then I haven't talked to the listeners about Sally.
My sister-in-law died and then I had to go to England and I took these annexes
because just in case it got too emotional and I knew about the time change.
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So that's when I got back on them again.
So when was that? When did I go? I think it was September.
So then I had to wean myself off. So it wasn't a big deal.
And they couldn't have been in my system because I hadn't been.
I think right around the time I met you.
But I'm glad I went through that. I'm really glad because it's nice to know shit.
I mean, most people just think this is, oh, just take it. No, don't do that.
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Now, my reaction was actually OK. It was one in a few.
But listen to Jordan Peterson's reaction.
And he said it's most terrifying experience to come off these.
So people just stay on them because they're told this will be the worst fucking thing that's happened to you coming off these.
So now they're just terrified.
Yeah, you're going to end up there's a Joe Rogan had a.
That was him talking to Jordan. Yeah.
Yeah. But he was also he has other guests. I don't really listen to too many of other podcasts.
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I listen to zero of Jordan Peterson. So I would have never done all his now.
Yeah. Joe Rogan, I listen to some depends on who the guest.
One of them was Rick Perry. He's the guy from is the senator or the governor from Texas.
He did a really good episode maybe a couple of months ago on the it's called Ibogaine, IBO GAI and Ibogaine.
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We've known about this for years. What is it? It's one and done.
It's it's I guess a derivative from psychedelic mushrooms. Oh, lovely.
But once you what happens is it's it's on the black market and too many people don't know how to have taken it.
No, I've not. You go. No, I got I create my own.
I want to I want to take one to see what anyway carry on your body can create those yourself.
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So what is it doing? Is it giving people the can I see the quantum field on this?
This is like doing a mushroom trip. The answer is yes.
That's what happens. But more importantly, it realigns your wiring in your brain.
So let's just see you have a heroin addict.
You have a hero and they're just or even an alcoholic.
Even people who are suffering from their playing their you and I both listen to Joe Dispenza.
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He's like he teaches he teaches the same way I listen to him.
He's unbelievable. Stop playing the old movies.
Create new ones. Right. But these people create these neuronal pathways where they're replaying these old childhood
traumas and these traumas from their previous.
I've done it. Yeah.
You keep replaying these and you're burning.
You're burning that into your memory screen.
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You're burning that into the neuronal pathways.
Yeah. Well, what do you seem to do?
But you can retrain those in 28 days.
Yeah, but what the Ibogaine does is those people who are addictive, they're addicted to ABC 123, whatever it is.
It seems that the Ibogaine helps you rewire those neuronal pathways.
The problem with it is it's so effective at getting people off of drugs that they placed it as a class one
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pharmaceutical, therefore nobody can write it any everywhere.
I cannot. So it's completely criminal what's going on.
Go listen. You can go back and listen.
I'm going to. I'll put a link in the show notes.
Text me later because I want to listen to that tonight.
But there's such a, you know, there's so much science and studies behind it.
But the bottom line for the, I don't want to confuse people.
You can overdose on this Ibogaine.
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You can actually kill yourself with it.
Oh, God. So if you go to the...
You can't kill yourself actually because you're immortal.
But you know, you have to come back in another body.
You have to come back and redo it. Go back to the end of the line.
Oh, that would be horrible.
You don't get a speed pass. You go to the end of the line.
Rebound.
But you know, these people that go to these shamans and stuff and they have these trips.
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Well, you want to make sure that you're doing this.
What they're doing now is micro dosing.
So instead of you going for a day or two and having these monster trips and you're just freaking all over the place.
What they're recognizing is that the secret is to micro dose.
My friend's, my son's friend is doing that.
Yes. So what you want to do is micro dose over a period of time, maybe 10 days or two weeks.
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I want to try it.
But this is under a professional care.
And if medical doctors really want to serve the world, they're going to push back and get this Ibogaine.
If you really want these drug people...
What fence is making the decision? Have you got the good guys or the bad guys in control?
Well, that's going to change. It's in the process of changing.
Good. I'm glad to fucking hear.
Yeah, because the reason I know this is because we've been, we being holistic practitioners,
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we've been waving the flag on Ibogaine and things like it for years.
But the government is not going to want a potentially enlightened people, do they?
That's why they, that's why pot hasn't been legal.
But that's why I know that things are changing.
Because when I brought up stuff like this 10 years ago, 15 years ago, my YouTube was censored.
My Twitter was censored.
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I've been censored every direction.
But the fact that Joe Rogan could talk to Rick Perry to literally millions of people about Ibogaine
and it's still up there and it's not censored and it's not taken down.
That means we won the war. We've won the information war.
Now we're in this place where people can actually talk about this stuff.
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You and I can have this discussion.
I'm not worried about this podcast being taken down.
Let's do another one.
We're sharing good information that's actually going to change the world.
We're helping these, and I have a soft spot for veterans.
I'm a veteran.
There's so many veterans addicted to so many things that this Ibogaine is a lifesaver.
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It's a life changer for them.
Can you grow it?
So we could have a completely separate episode.
OK, let's do that.
But the answer is yes, because ultimately all of these compounds are grown.
But the whole study of mycology, you know what mycology is?
Yes.
So anybody who doesn't, if something ends in ology, that means the study of, and myco is our funguses.
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When I was in England, I watched a two hour special on that.
It was unbelievable.
Mycology is the thing of the future.
But it's not just one thing.
I think I heard that we are fungi.
Fungi has been this massive force, maybe we're not fungi, but fungi has been this massive force during our evolution here.
And then you think, and then anyway, I'm going to I'll send you the link to this show.
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It was unbelievable.
I can't even believe it.
Yeah. And the idea is that, and what Sarah's mentioning is very solid because this is not a one thing.
Like we're not a one trick pony.
Like we are very, very powerful.
So we have this complete system.
It's called the cannibinoid system.
Cannibinoid.
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Not all of them, but most of your cellular membranes have these little portals that are responsive to cannibinoids.
That would be cannabis, CBG, which is the mother molecule, and 140s, whatever number it is.
I've grown some cannabis very successfully.
Yeah.
So the cannibinoids actually have different effects on the membranes.
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Like one of the things I bring to market operates, you know, when people smoke a joint, sometimes they get a munchy, right?
Yeah, that's how well there's also a cannibinoid that down regulates that munchiness.
So it suppresses the appetite, but people don't know about it.
That would be good.
Then you're not going to have all the weight gain, but all the health benefits.
The same exact mechanism.
Instead of getting the monkey monkeys, the munchies, instead of getting the munchies, you're getting rid of the munchies.
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You can actually suppress it.
So you can have different compounds, different compounds that actually affect the membranes,
therefore affect the cellular activities in different ways.
So there's so much here, but it's not a one time.
Like ibogaine is not the answer.
You still have to deal with the emotional stuff.
Yes.
You have to still dance with your shadows.
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I have to go and get my carpets clean now because Stanley Steen were coming.
Let's pick up on that because that's the next part I want to talk to you about.
It's the emotions that are going to be causing your necessity to be ill.
This is going to be really good because this is central to one of my other presentations I do.
It's called Whole Body Power and Beauty.
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And when you look at the autonomic nervous system, because there are certain things that happen.
Like this whole time you and I have been talking, you didn't think once about your breathing, swallowing.
I've been holding my breath.
Holding your breath.
But you don't think about those things, they're automatic.
Yes.
And there's two basic modes.
There's the peace mode where it's called the parasympathetic mode,
which is where all the good things happen, you know, the hormones and all this stuff,
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the breast repair, the deep sleep, good sex.
All of those things happen when you're not stressed.
Most people are in the sympathetic mode, which is stress.
And they don't even know it, do they?
It's the money. It's the kid.
It's the stupid neighbor.
It's always all this stuff.
That's the ego mind.
And everything is all so important.
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Because we've got awareness and the ego mind.
Everything is important.
Yeah.
It's not that I'm being chased by Mama Bear, because that, you need to be stressed for that.
You need to get out of the way.
Yes, it has its uses.
Yeah.
But they're under chronic stress because the Kardashians are wearing the wrong collar today or whatever.
And they're stressed about this crap stuff.
And they're driving them.
And they wonder why their thyroid is down regulated.
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Well, if you're under chronic stress and you expect your thyroid to function, you're in a, you're not, you don't know how your body works.
Yeah.
So we can talk about those things.
Let's talk about that.
And we'll talk about, we might have to make this a few because there's so much to say about this.
Look, whatever you want.
I'm just happy that you're here.
We need to come up, maybe, maybe, oh, you know, one thing we have to do too is intro music, outro music.
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Oh, my God.
That would be interesting.
We do those and I'm thinking maracas.
We need to do like a...
Well, I thought that's so weird.
I thought I was going to make you a maraca because you can have your guitar.
I'm going to put those, I'm going to make you a maraca.
I need to find like a theme song for the intro here that's got the maracas.
Oh, it's got to be Spanish to some degree.
Some sort of a Spanish vibe, right?
Especially because it's south of the border.
Oh, we could, yeah, we'll figure it out.
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Yeah.
But anyway, so let's wrap it up.
Any final thoughts?
No, because this is not a final one, but I want to talk about the emotional side of what we're talking about here.
So we'll do that on the next one.
Got to get my carpets clean.
My niece is coming.
Don't want her judging me.
I'd tell her to keep her room clean.
She can't have your niece judge you about your carpets, right?
And they're white.
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So once again, we're going to wrap up today, but we absolutely love, you all are so amazing.
You're the best audience ever.
Even though we're small, but growing.
Oh, I love it.
So exciting.
You are doing such a good job sharing with other people.
If you find something useful, even if it's a past episode, we're just really grateful for you sharing.
And let us know if you want us to talk about anything because nothing's off limits.
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Truly, we talk about everything, even poop.
OK, my dear, thanks for coming by Philips Island.
All right, be well. Bye bye.
Bye.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!