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Kate (00:14):
Hey, Jordan.
I'm really excited to have youhere today to talk about Jake.
Would love to hear, um, how, howyou met Jake.
Jordan (00:24):
Okay.
So I always wanted a dog mywhole life.
One of those kids who never hada dog growing up and always
wanted one.
So I finally got one of my ownaround 21.
And my friend had was going toget this puppy.
She'd been at the pound everyday watching this puppy, right?
Going to come up for sit for,for adoption.
And one of the days she's there,she know I had been looking for
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a dog for a while.
And she sends me this picture.
We're supposed to go toDisneyland, like, I live in
California.
We're supposed to go toDisneyland on this Friday night.
She goes, but look what I got atthe shelter.
And his picture was so cute.
Disalarmingly cute.
Aww.
And so, you know, I go, you knowwhat?
It's on the way, Disneyland.
I'll just stop by and take alook.
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Right, right.
Kate (01:07):
Innocent, innocent stop just to check out a puppy.
You know,
Jordan (01:10):
just, I already had the bed at home and the first bag of
food at home.
I'd already done a lot ofresearch looking for a dog.
And, um, I went to the pet,yeah, I did a lot of research
looking for a dog.
And, um, I thought I was goingto get a much bigger dog than I
got when I got Jake because Jakewas a beagle.
He was a big beagle.
He was 35 pounds and really tallon the legs.
But um, when I went to thepound, I went through the whole
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shelter and didn't see him andI'm like, Oh, maybe he's gone.
So it's a first come first serveshelter.
Right?
Like, okay, guess he's gone.
Whatever.
But then I walked through onemore time and this little hedgy
dog walked out and he was stillwearing his harness and when
he'd been surrendered that likeearlier that day, somebody hit
me.
Just.
Yeah, and I would come to findout a lot about the dog in the
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days following me adopting him.
But I look at him and I go, youknow what?
You do not belong in here.
I'm gonna take you home with me.
And that's how we met.
Kate (02:04):
How old was Jake when you met him?
Was he a puppy?
He was a puppy or you were?
Jordan (02:08):
He was a puppy.
He was about two.
Kate (02:11):
Ah, that's perfect.
So he's probably already fairlytrained and ready to call your
house a home.
So I, I assume you wish Disneylands.
Jordan (02:22):
Oh yeah.
That's the story of how I gotJake, like how he came to be a
family as a whole anotherconversation of that same day
that required me because thefirst time first, it's a first
time first or kill shelter.
So This was Jake's last day, sothere was no tomorrow.
Oh my
Kate (02:38):
gosh.
Jordan (02:39):
Yeah, he was, it was, he was a final day dog
Kate (02:41):
and,
Jordan (02:42):
um, he
Kate (02:42):
just arrived.
The line was very sad.
Wow.
Jordan (02:46):
Yeah.
Well, cause he already beenreturned.
I come to find out he's beenreturned twice.
But they don't tell you that,like, they don't tell you that.
I only found out like throughlooking into this dog later
because of all the issues I hadwith the dog after I got him.
And I was like, Oh my God.
So I got, I got this verytroubled and he wasn't, he was a
great dog.
I'm going to purpose that heended up being the best dog.
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If you take the time to workwith a dog, they become the best
dog.
Right.
Kate (03:10):
But that's like very young.
Jordan (03:14):
Yeah.
I was young and impulsive and Igo, I'm going to get this dog.
He's cute.
Why not?
I had to wait in line for fourand a half hours.
Standing.
Wow.
Standing.
Standing in line behind theirpeople, people getting kittens,
people getting dogs, peoplegetting puppies.
And I asked everybody in line ifthey were in line for this dog,
because if they were in line forJake and their dog, I wasn't
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going to get them.
Everyone in line.
I mean, nobody wanted that dog.
So I finally get to the counterand it's four o'clock.
The shelter's closing, likeclosed.
And it's finally my turn.
It's me and a lady behind me.
And the deputy had already toldus we were in the door before
time.
We're going to get help.
Right, right.
Cashier just wanted, she wantedto go home, you could tell it's
Friday.
Right.
This lady's burned out.
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She wants to go home.
And she told me, I'm sorry, Ican't help you.
If I didn't have one of the mostOscar winning performances,
crying at this counter, tellingthem how they, how they had my
dog in there and I, my dogneeded to come home with me
today and I'm not leavingwithout my dog.
It's that simple.
I will stand here untiltomorrow.
I'm not leaving my dog here.
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It got to the point that finallythe manager had to come out.
She's bottle feeding a littlekitten in her hat in her hands
and she's like, what is theproblem out here?
Why is it so noisy?
Kate (04:24):
And you're like, because I'm taking Jake home.
Jordan (04:27):
I go, you guys have my dog in there.
It's the last day.
And I want my dog
Kate (04:30):
clearly.
And
Jordan (04:33):
it got to the point that when the lady, the lady walked
me back, like the sheriff'slady, the little animal control
lady walks him back to get him.
She got How long has he beenmissing?
He's been coming and going fromthe shelter.
I met this dog like four hoursago and she just looked at me
like we all thought this wasyour dog that you had lost.
What do you mean?
And I'm like, no, this is my dogthough.
He's mine now.
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Had to come home.
Kate (04:55):
Oh, I love that.
I love, love, love that.
And you, yeah, you're likeadamant, right?
Like you knew immediately.
The first time I saw him,
Jordan (05:02):
he was my, he was my dog.
All the dogs in the shelter,they were nice, but when I saw
him and I contacted him, he wasmy dog.
He's been waiting for me.
We've been waiting for eachother.
Kate (05:11):
I always usually ask, like, if he picked you or you
picked him, but it sounds likeit was a mutual instant, instant
love and connection, especiallywith him, coming out from around
the corner when you didn't firstsee him and just walking up.
That's awesome.
Jordan (05:25):
He walked up and sat down and looked at me and I was
like, Oh yeah, you don't belongin here.
We're going to take you home.
Don't worry.
You're not going to have to comeback here ever again.
Yeah.
Did
Kate (05:33):
he come with the name Jake or did you name him Jake?
Jordan (05:37):
His name was Jake, and at that time, I didn't know you
could, like, rename dogs fromthe shelter.
I had been kind of guilted.
Like, that's his name, and I hadbeen told that people, Oh,
that's probably been his namesince he was, it wasn't.
I found his video later on theinternet.
His name was Jenkins, beforesomebody else adopted and named
him Jake.
So I'm like, I mean, at leastJake was better.
No offense, people namedJenkins, but he wasn't, that
wasn't his personality.
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So I'm happy that that wasn'tthe name he got stuck with, that
wasn't his personality.
Kate (06:03):
Is there a song that reminds you of Jake or like that
time in your life where you,where you brought him home?
Like if you hear a song, isthere a of reminds you of him
now?
Jordan (06:13):
There are songs that remind me of us because we used
to spend a lot of time, I usedto, I was young.
We were going dog, beach, wewere going to the mountains, we
were going everywhere together.
So almost any radio hit fromlike 2000 and like 11, 12, 13 is
us.
I can think back to us literallycruising down the streets in
Pasadena, like going to go offto the dog park.
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Spending a lot of time, a lot oftime at the dog park.
So almost any Adele song from22, all that stuff, I'm like, it
reminds me of him.
Kate (06:42):
If there were three words that come to mind to describe
him, how would you describe him?
Jordan (06:47):
His personality?
Oh, he was funny.
He was, he was a hilarious dog.
Oh, I love the goofy dog.
He was very goofy.
Um, he could be very determined.
And he was very food orientated.
He was like me, the foodie.
Kate (07:00):
Right.
I love that.
is there, any particular storyor adventure or experience y'all
had together that you want,like, that, Um, like made an
impact on you.
It could be funny.
It could be sad.
Just anything that you can thinkof
Jordan (07:18):
and that kind of like shows off
Kate (07:19):
your relationship.
Jordan (07:21):
I learned a lot from Jake.
Like I learned a lot about lifeand that dog.
I didn't have him for very longbecause cancer took a boy from
me.
But the years that we, yeah, theyears we were together, those
three to four years we had, um,a lot of lessons came out of
like having that dog.
But I think the most, the mostimportant one I ever had was not
to give up.
To find is a better option thangiving up.
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In most cases, when it comes toa dog or even people, because
I'd had Jake for about threeweeks and then the first three
weeks I had Jake, he cost meover 10, 000 in damages to the
house I was renting.
Kate (07:54):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Wow.
He destroyed,
Jordan (07:56):
he destroyed a garage door.
He went through two woodendoors.
He broke a window.
He ate through the carpet on thefloor because I didn't know dogs
would have separation anxietiesI think.
And this is what he had beenreturned for.
He was a nutcase.
He was a nutcase.
He was.
Total nutcase.
Total nutcase.
But I also didn't know that dogscould be crated, they could be
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crate trained, they could betrained in general, I have no
idea.
Kate (08:19):
Right,
Jordan (08:20):
right.
I remember going to PetSmart,people at PetSmart where I used
to live, knew me, even though Ididn't have a dog yet.
I would come in every day andask questions, and I would ask
about food, and I'd ask aboutwhat kind of pet bed is best.
Wow.
I come in, I come in, they'reall upset, and I have all my
stuff in the cart, and I'mbringing all the stuff back, and
they're like, Why didn't youjust get it?
I go, no, no, that dog isdefective, he's going back, I, I
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can't, I can't handle thisanymore, he's already cost me so
much money.
And I'm Brian, I'm like, they'relike a friend that consoled me
that I hadn't made a mistake andmaybe just the wrong dog for me,
you know, it's okay.
There's going to be another dog.
Sometimes you just can't, youknow, it's the experience and
everything and I'm over herecrying about this dog where I
thought I had proved my pointthat I made a mistake.
Right.
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And I wasn't ready for a dog,even though I was 20 something
years old.
And this nice trainer walks overand he goes, So do you want to
just try a class?
And I'm like, I can't affordyour class.
And he's like, how are you goingto return the dog?
75 bucks is the return fee,right?
And there's a fee associatedwith dropping them off.
You can't just drop them off.
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He goes, well, we're having aspecial right now.
Just use that money instead andbuy a class.
And if he doesn't work out, Iwill help you rehome the dog.
Wow.
Kate (09:29):
That was,
Jordan (09:30):
I go, I go, intervention
Kate (09:32):
right then and there, right?
A little earth angel.
I love that.
Jordan (09:35):
And I literally went, do you hear that sound in the
parking lot?
Because my dog, he was so, hetried to go through a car window
to get in a motorcycle.
It's because they'd gone pastthe car.
He was just triggered byeverything.
Yeah.
This dog needed some attention.
So much attention.
And like, um, you hear thatsound in the parking lot?
You can hear my dog baying fromthe parking lot.
So I had gone into the storewithout him.
But the window was down a littlebit.
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He wasn't like gonna die oranything.
It wasn't hot.
But I couldn't bring him inbecause he was just so reactive.
He would drag me around.
He would sit me.
He would go after other dogs.
Like he was just so excited.
Not in a dangerous way, but hewas just so excited to meet
them.
It would trigger other dogs.
He was just, he was a mess.
And the guy goes, just give hima chance.
And I said, okay, you know what?
Fine, whatever.
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This is the last day.
Well, this is the work for I'mgetting ready with dog and it
worked.
He went on to become a caninegood citizen.
Uh, we did, we did, he, he satso well and behaved so well, and
all these people were asking ifthey could breed, like, they
could breed their, he was such awell behaved, I don't know, he's
just really well trained.
This is a really well done dog.
This is not a knack ofpersonality.
I mean, you had to put
Kate (10:36):
in the work too, right?
Like, you should be so proud ofthat also.
Jordan (10:39):
I had a behavioralist come.
I had an animal behavioralistcome and deal with me with this
dog.
I got the professional,professional, super professional
dog person.
Like, like a dog psychologistalmost came and dealt with him.
I had a pet medium at one pointcome and talk to him.
Like, I'm like, what is wrongwith this dog?
But I went in all in and it, itworked.
It, it saved our relationship,saved my dog and it saved us.
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And that's the one thing thatI've learned about dogs.
I mean, I have a dog, we have adog now at my house and he's
trouble.
And I'm like, We're going tocall the behaviorist and we're
going to fix him and he's on hisway to being fit.
Kate (11:10):
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean,
Jordan (11:12):
I learned not to give up.
Kate (11:14):
Yep.
Not give up.
I mean, that's an amazing story,right.
Of love, not giving up andTaking the time, right, and
finding the right tools and theright resources to help.
Because you put in the time andit, it definitely, you know,
paid off and that, that'sawesome.
That's an amazing story of notgiving up.
Jordan (11:30):
And, and then I always tell people I, because Jake had
cancer and when I was incollege, I had a professor who
brought somebody in to speakwith us from like one of those
healthcare companies for dogs.
And he goes, if you had ananimal and you would give up
your house to save him, raiseyour hand.
Anyone who raised their handneeds to have pet insurance.
And I always remembered that.
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Because I went and bought petinsurance for Jake.
He's a dog, so dogs bite andstuff, but whatever, I'm a good
pet insurance.
I never used it.
For like three and a half, fouryears, never used it.
I was like, cancel it.
So I took Jake in to get aphysical.
And that's when they found thecancer.
And wow.
Yeah.
I took it.
I was going to cancel the nextmonth and I go, let's just get
your one physical to make sureyou're healthy.
And I'm going to cut your young,young dog.
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What do I have to worry about?
Right.
Right.
They told me, they showed me thex ray of his, of his, I'll be an
expert at it done.
And they go, you see that, thatis a problem.
We're going to refer you to anoncologist.
And I'm like, and I'm all ofthis, he's like, he's like four
or five years old.
What do you mean?
Oncologist?
And they're like, yeah, we haveto refer you to oncologist.
So I went to an oncologist and Ipaid all this money and I, this
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is the 20, I'm making 20 bucksan hour.
You know, I'm like, this is nota lot of money and I'm doing it.
And my insurance is going wellto send us the bill.
And we're sending the moneyback.
It gets insane.
And I remember I went to thespecialist and they go, okay, so
your dog has cancer.
And, um, the cancer is veryaggressive, right?
Most dogs die in about two tothree weeks.
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So you want us to put them downand look at my dog who's happy
and healthy and just living hislife.
And I'm like, how much istreatment?
They go, ma'am, it's here.
I go, no, I have pet insurance.
I'm worried about how I'm goingto screen it.
And it was a whole differentconversation at that point.
Like, when they found out therewas going to be, like, money
behind this situation.
I got nine and a half monthswith my dog.
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Wow.
Because my pet insurance madeit.
I mean, I was born, get mewrong.
I was broke.
My, my vet office worked withme.
They kept my tail open all weeklong until I got paid.
I was going right up to work,pay my bills to make the form be
broke all weekend and getreimbursed 90 percent on Monday
morning.
Wow.
For nine months, every singleweek until my dog finally
decided on his own, he wasfinished and stopped eating.
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And then he was put to sleep.
Wow.
I got, I got time to be able tosay goodbye versus trying to, to
save, not to save money, butlike to save the agony because
he, until the very end, he washimself in the very last two
weeks.
Kate (13:51):
Right.
Yeah.
Jordan (13:52):
So I always tell people, that's my story.
So as pet insurance, if you'reever wondering about, I would
have given everything to save mydog and he was never going to be
saved, but I was able to havemore time to make memories.
You know, all that stuff.
Right.
So that's why I always shareabout Jake because I learned the
value of like, of, um, you know,not giving up on the value of
pet insurance.
I learned the value of a lot ofthings.
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And planning
Kate (14:13):
ahead.
Yeah.
Jordan (14:14):
And I broke even.
I broke even after when hepassed away, all the money that
I've been paying and what histreatments cost broke even Wow.
Like, I was, I was very luckythat I had it.
Kate (14:24):
I'm a big fan of pet insurance as well.
I think it allows you to makethe choices that you want to
make for your dog.
Right?
And, um, and then also in yourcase, right?
Like, get that, like, you didn'thave to question.
You were able to at least try toget him the best treatment
possible.
Okay.
Well, wait, we're almost out oftime, but I would love to know,
if you had one more day withJake, like, how would you spend
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it?
Jordan (14:49):
Oh, if I had one more day with him, I think we would
just hang out, watch TV.
We used to watch TV all thetime.
I don't watch TV much anymore.
I'm so busy now.
But like,
Kate (14:58):
yeah,
Jordan (14:58):
we would probably watch Scooter.
Kate (15:00):
And like Cuddle.
Any specific shows?
What was your go to shows backthen?
Jordan (15:06):
Back then it was cooking food TV.
We used to watch Food Network.
I was at all when I was at home,like it would be food network
all day long.
Yeah, we would just watch foodnetwork all day long.
Like that was our thing.
Awesome.
That's what we would probablydo.
Kate (15:19):
Well, that was an incredible story of Jake and
Jordan.
There is something so specialabout that first dog you have as
an adult, especially the dogthat you have in your early
twenties.
Um, one word that comes to mindwhen thinking of Jordan and Jake
is determination, determination.
When she chose to fight for himat the shelter determination,
when she fought.
Through like the hard times ofgetting him properly trained.
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And then of course, at the endto determination to stand by him
during his cancer fight.
Um, the story is incredible andit's just a beautiful story of a
girl and her dog.
And.
Um, that, that process of, ofgrowing up together.
Tooo.
Do.
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Kate (00:14):
Hey, Jordan.
I'm really excited to have youhere today to talk about Jake.
Would love to hear, um, how, howyou met Jake.
Jordan (00:24):
Okay.
So I always wanted a dog mywhole life.
One of those kids who never hada dog growing up and always
wanted one.
So I finally got one of my ownaround 21.
And my friend had was going toget this puppy.
She'd been at the pound everyday watching this puppy, right?
Going to come up for sit for,for adoption.
And one of the days she's there,she know I had been looking for
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a dog for a while.
And she sends me this picture.
We're supposed to go toDisneyland, like, I live in
California.
We're supposed to go toDisneyland on this Friday night.
She goes, but look what I got atthe shelter.
And his picture was so cute.
Disalarmingly cute.
Aww.
And so, you know, I go, you knowwhat?
It's on the way, Disneyland.
I'll just stop by and take alook.
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Right, right.
Kate (01:07):
Innocent, innocent stop just to check out a puppy.
You know,
Jordan (01:10):
just, I already had the bed at home and the first bag of
food at home.
I'd already done a lot ofresearch looking for a dog.
And, um, I went to the pet,yeah, I did a lot of research
looking for a dog.
And, um, I thought I was goingto get a much bigger dog than I
got when I got Jake because Jakewas a beagle.
He was a big beagle.
He was 35 pounds and really tallon the legs.
But um, when I went to thepound, I went through the whole
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shelter and didn't see him andI'm like, Oh, maybe he's gone.
So it's a first come first serveshelter.
Right?
Like, okay, guess he's gone.
Whatever.
But then I walked through onemore time and this little hedgy
dog walked out and he was stillwearing his harness and when
he'd been surrendered that likeearlier that day, somebody hit
me.
Just.
Yeah, and I would come to findout a lot about the dog in the
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days following me adopting him.
But I look at him and I go, youknow what?
You do not belong in here.
I'm gonna take you home with me.
And that's how we met.
Kate (02:04):
How old was Jake when you met him?
Was he a puppy?
He was a puppy or you were?
Jordan (02:08):
He was a puppy.
He was about two.
Kate (02:11):
Ah, that's perfect.
So he's probably already fairlytrained and ready to call your
house a home.
So I, I assume you wish Disneylands.
Jordan (02:22):
Oh yeah.
That's the story of how I gotJake, like how he came to be a
family as a whole anotherconversation of that same day
that required me because thefirst time first, it's a first
time first or kill shelter.
So This was Jake's last day, sothere was no tomorrow.
Oh my
Kate (02:38):
gosh.
Jordan (02:39):
Yeah, he was, it was, he was a final day dog
Kate (02:41):
and,
Jordan (02:42):
um, he
Kate (02:42):
just arrived.
The line was very sad.
Wow.
Jordan (02:46):
Yeah.
Well, cause he already beenreturned.
I come to find out he's beenreturned twice.
But they don't tell you that,like, they don't tell you that.
I only found out like throughlooking into this dog later
because of all the issues I hadwith the dog after I got him.
And I was like, Oh my God.
So I got, I got this verytroubled and he wasn't, he was a
great dog.
I'm going to purpose that heended up being the best dog.
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If you take the time to workwith a dog, they become the best
dog.
Right.
Kate (03:10):
But that's like very young.
Jordan (03:14):
Yeah.
I was young and impulsive and Igo, I'm going to get this dog.
He's cute.
Why not?
I had to wait in line for fourand a half hours.
Standing.
Wow.
Standing.
Standing in line behind theirpeople, people getting kittens,
people getting dogs, peoplegetting puppies.
And I asked everybody in line ifthey were in line for this dog,
because if they were in line forJake and their dog, I wasn't
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going to get them.
Everyone in line.
I mean, nobody wanted that dog.
So I finally get to the counterand it's four o'clock.
The shelter's closing, likeclosed.
And it's finally my turn.
It's me and a lady behind me.
And the deputy had already toldus we were in the door before
time.
We're going to get help.
Right, right.
Cashier just wanted, she wantedto go home, you could tell it's
Friday.
Right.
This lady's burned out.
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She wants to go home.
And she told me, I'm sorry, Ican't help you.
If I didn't have one of the mostOscar winning performances,
crying at this counter, tellingthem how they, how they had my
dog in there and I, my dogneeded to come home with me
today and I'm not leavingwithout my dog.
It's that simple.
I will stand here untiltomorrow.
I'm not leaving my dog here.
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It got to the point that finallythe manager had to come out.
She's bottle feeding a littlekitten in her hat in her hands
and she's like, what is theproblem out here?
Why is it so noisy?
Kate (04:24):
And you're like, because I'm taking Jake home.
Jordan (04:27):
I go, you guys have my dog in there.
It's the last day.
And I want my dog
Kate (04:30):
clearly.
And
Jordan (04:33):
it got to the point that when the lady, the lady walked
me back, like the sheriff'slady, the little animal control
lady walks him back to get him.
She got How long has he beenmissing?
He's been coming and going fromthe shelter.
I met this dog like four hoursago and she just looked at me
like we all thought this wasyour dog that you had lost.
What do you mean?
And I'm like, no, this is my dogthough.
He's mine now.
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Had to come home.
Kate (04:55):
Oh, I love that.
I love, love, love that.
And you, yeah, you're likeadamant, right?
Like you knew immediately.
The first time I saw him,
Jordan (05:02):
he was my, he was my dog.
All the dogs in the shelter,they were nice, but when I saw
him and I contacted him, he wasmy dog.
He's been waiting for me.
We've been waiting for eachother.
Kate (05:11):
I always usually ask, like, if he picked you or you
picked him, but it sounds likeit was a mutual instant, instant
love and connection, especiallywith him, coming out from around
the corner when you didn't firstsee him and just walking up.
That's awesome.
Jordan (05:25):
He walked up and sat down and looked at me and I was
like, Oh yeah, you don't belongin here.
We're going to take you home.
Don't worry.
You're not going to have to comeback here ever again.
Yeah.
Did
Kate (05:33):
he come with the name Jake or did you name him Jake?
Jordan (05:37):
His name was Jake, and at that time, I didn't know you
could, like, rename dogs fromthe shelter.
I had been kind of guilted.
Like, that's his name, and I hadbeen told that people, Oh,
that's probably been his namesince he was, it wasn't.
I found his video later on theinternet.
His name was Jenkins, beforesomebody else adopted and named
him Jake.
So I'm like, I mean, at leastJake was better.
No offense, people namedJenkins, but he wasn't, that
wasn't his personality.
(05:58):
So I'm happy that that wasn'tthe name he got stuck with, that
wasn't his personality.
Kate (06:03):
Is there a song that reminds you of Jake or like that
time in your life where you,where you brought him home?
Like if you hear a song, isthere a of reminds you of him
now?
Jordan (06:13):
There are songs that remind me of us because we used
to spend a lot of time, I usedto, I was young.
We were going dog, beach, wewere going to the mountains, we
were going everywhere together.
So almost any radio hit fromlike 2000 and like 11, 12, 13 is
us.
I can think back to us literallycruising down the streets in
Pasadena, like going to go offto the dog park.
(06:34):
Spending a lot of time, a lot oftime at the dog park.
So almost any Adele song from22, all that stuff, I'm like, it
reminds me of him.
Kate (06:42):
If there were three words that come to mind to describe
him, how would you describe him?
Jordan (06:47):
His personality?
Oh, he was funny.
He was, he was a hilarious dog.
Oh, I love the goofy dog.
He was very goofy.
Um, he could be very determined.
And he was very food orientated.
He was like me, the foodie.
Kate (07:00):
Right.
I love that.
is there, any particular storyor adventure or experience y'all
had together that you want,like, that, Um, like made an
impact on you.
It could be funny.
It could be sad.
Just anything that you can thinkof
Jordan (07:18):
and that kind of like shows off
Kate (07:19):
your relationship.
Jordan (07:21):
I learned a lot from Jake.
Like I learned a lot about lifeand that dog.
I didn't have him for very longbecause cancer took a boy from
me.
But the years that we, yeah, theyears we were together, those
three to four years we had, um,a lot of lessons came out of
like having that dog.
But I think the most, the mostimportant one I ever had was not
to give up.
To find is a better option thangiving up.
(07:44):
In most cases, when it comes toa dog or even people, because
I'd had Jake for about threeweeks and then the first three
weeks I had Jake, he cost meover 10, 000 in damages to the
house I was renting.
Kate (07:54):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Wow.
He destroyed,
Jordan (07:56):
he destroyed a garage door.
He went through two woodendoors.
He broke a window.
He ate through the carpet on thefloor because I didn't know dogs
would have separation anxietiesI think.
And this is what he had beenreturned for.
He was a nutcase.
He was a nutcase.
He was.
Total nutcase.
Total nutcase.
But I also didn't know that dogscould be crated, they could be
(08:16):
crate trained, they could betrained in general, I have no
idea.
Kate (08:19):
Right,
Jordan (08:20):
right.
I remember going to PetSmart,people at PetSmart where I used
to live, knew me, even though Ididn't have a dog yet.
I would come in every day andask questions, and I would ask
about food, and I'd ask aboutwhat kind of pet bed is best.
Wow.
I come in, I come in, they'reall upset, and I have all my
stuff in the cart, and I'mbringing all the stuff back, and
they're like, Why didn't youjust get it?
I go, no, no, that dog isdefective, he's going back, I, I
(08:40):
can't, I can't handle thisanymore, he's already cost me so
much money.
And I'm Brian, I'm like, they'relike a friend that consoled me
that I hadn't made a mistake andmaybe just the wrong dog for me,
you know, it's okay.
There's going to be another dog.
Sometimes you just can't, youknow, it's the experience and
everything and I'm over herecrying about this dog where I
thought I had proved my pointthat I made a mistake.
Right.
(09:00):
And I wasn't ready for a dog,even though I was 20 something
years old.
And this nice trainer walks overand he goes, So do you want to
just try a class?
And I'm like, I can't affordyour class.
And he's like, how are you goingto return the dog?
75 bucks is the return fee,right?
And there's a fee associatedwith dropping them off.
You can't just drop them off.
(09:21):
He goes, well, we're having aspecial right now.
Just use that money instead andbuy a class.
And if he doesn't work out, Iwill help you rehome the dog.
Wow.
Kate (09:29):
That was,
Jordan (09:30):
I go, I go, intervention
Kate (09:32):
right then and there, right?
A little earth angel.
I love that.
Jordan (09:35):
And I literally went, do you hear that sound in the
parking lot?
Because my dog, he was so, hetried to go through a car window
to get in a motorcycle.
It's because they'd gone pastthe car.
He was just triggered byeverything.
Yeah.
This dog needed some attention.
So much attention.
And like, um, you hear thatsound in the parking lot?
You can hear my dog baying fromthe parking lot.
So I had gone into the storewithout him.
But the window was down a littlebit.
(09:56):
He wasn't like gonna die oranything.
It wasn't hot.
But I couldn't bring him inbecause he was just so reactive.
He would drag me around.
He would sit me.
He would go after other dogs.
Like he was just so excited.
Not in a dangerous way, but hewas just so excited to meet
them.
It would trigger other dogs.
He was just, he was a mess.
And the guy goes, just give hima chance.
And I said, okay, you know what?
Fine, whatever.
(10:16):
This is the last day.
Well, this is the work for I'mgetting ready with dog and it
worked.
He went on to become a caninegood citizen.
Uh, we did, we did, he, he satso well and behaved so well, and
all these people were asking ifthey could breed, like, they
could breed their, he was such awell behaved, I don't know, he's
just really well trained.
This is a really well done dog.
This is not a knack ofpersonality.
I mean, you had to put
Kate (10:36):
in the work too, right?
Like, you should be so proud ofthat also.
Jordan (10:39):
I had a behavioralist come.
I had an animal behavioralistcome and deal with me with this
dog.
I got the professional,professional, super professional
dog person.
Like, like a dog psychologistalmost came and dealt with him.
I had a pet medium at one pointcome and talk to him.
Like, I'm like, what is wrongwith this dog?
But I went in all in and it, itworked.
It, it saved our relationship,saved my dog and it saved us.
(11:00):
And that's the one thing thatI've learned about dogs.
I mean, I have a dog, we have adog now at my house and he's
trouble.
And I'm like, We're going tocall the behaviorist and we're
going to fix him and he's on hisway to being fit.
Kate (11:10):
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean,
Jordan (11:12):
I learned not to give up.
Kate (11:14):
Yep.
Not give up.
I mean, that's an amazing story,right.
Of love, not giving up andTaking the time, right, and
finding the right tools and theright resources to help.
Because you put in the time andit, it definitely, you know,
paid off and that, that'sawesome.
That's an amazing story of notgiving up.
Jordan (11:30):
And, and then I always tell people I, because Jake had
cancer and when I was incollege, I had a professor who
brought somebody in to speakwith us from like one of those
healthcare companies for dogs.
And he goes, if you had ananimal and you would give up
your house to save him, raiseyour hand.
Anyone who raised their handneeds to have pet insurance.
And I always remembered that.
(11:50):
Because I went and bought petinsurance for Jake.
He's a dog, so dogs bite andstuff, but whatever, I'm a good
pet insurance.
I never used it.
For like three and a half, fouryears, never used it.
I was like, cancel it.
So I took Jake in to get aphysical.
And that's when they found thecancer.
And wow.
Yeah.
I took it.
I was going to cancel the nextmonth and I go, let's just get
your one physical to make sureyou're healthy.
And I'm going to cut your young,young dog.
(12:11):
What do I have to worry about?
Right.
Right.
They told me, they showed me thex ray of his, of his, I'll be an
expert at it done.
And they go, you see that, thatis a problem.
We're going to refer you to anoncologist.
And I'm like, and I'm all ofthis, he's like, he's like four
or five years old.
What do you mean?
Oncologist?
And they're like, yeah, we haveto refer you to oncologist.
So I went to an oncologist and Ipaid all this money and I, this
(12:33):
is the 20, I'm making 20 bucksan hour.
You know, I'm like, this is nota lot of money and I'm doing it.
And my insurance is going wellto send us the bill.
And we're sending the moneyback.
It gets insane.
And I remember I went to thespecialist and they go, okay, so
your dog has cancer.
And, um, the cancer is veryaggressive, right?
Most dogs die in about two tothree weeks.
(12:55):
So you want us to put them downand look at my dog who's happy
and healthy and just living hislife.
And I'm like, how much istreatment?
They go, ma'am, it's here.
I go, no, I have pet insurance.
I'm worried about how I'm goingto screen it.
And it was a whole differentconversation at that point.
Like, when they found out therewas going to be, like, money
behind this situation.
I got nine and a half monthswith my dog.
(13:15):
Wow.
Because my pet insurance madeit.
I mean, I was born, get mewrong.
I was broke.
My, my vet office worked withme.
They kept my tail open all weeklong until I got paid.
I was going right up to work,pay my bills to make the form be
broke all weekend and getreimbursed 90 percent on Monday
morning.
Wow.
For nine months, every singleweek until my dog finally
decided on his own, he wasfinished and stopped eating.
(13:36):
And then he was put to sleep.
Wow.
I got, I got time to be able tosay goodbye versus trying to, to
save, not to save money, butlike to save the agony because
he, until the very end, he washimself in the very last two
weeks.
Kate (13:51):
Right.
Yeah.
Jordan (13:52):
So I always tell people, that's my story.
So as pet insurance, if you'reever wondering about, I would
have given everything to save mydog and he was never going to be
saved, but I was able to havemore time to make memories.
You know, all that stuff.
Right.
So that's why I always shareabout Jake because I learned the
value of like, of, um, you know,not giving up on the value of
pet insurance.
I learned the value of a lot ofthings.
(14:13):
And planning
Kate (14:13):
ahead.
Yeah.
Jordan (14:14):
And I broke even.
I broke even after when hepassed away, all the money that
I've been paying and what histreatments cost broke even Wow.
Like, I was, I was very luckythat I had it.
Kate (14:24):
I'm a big fan of pet insurance as well.
I think it allows you to makethe choices that you want to
make for your dog.
Right?
And, um, and then also in yourcase, right?
Like, get that, like, you didn'thave to question.
You were able to at least try toget him the best treatment
possible.
Okay.
Well, wait, we're almost out oftime, but I would love to know,
if you had one more day withJake, like, how would you spend
(14:47):
it?
Jordan (14:49):
Oh, if I had one more day with him, I think we would
just hang out, watch TV.
We used to watch TV all thetime.
I don't watch TV much anymore.
I'm so busy now.
But like,
Kate (14:58):
yeah,
Jordan (14:58):
we would probably watch Scooter.
Kate (15:00):
And like Cuddle.
Any specific shows?
What was your go to shows backthen?
Jordan (15:06):
Back then it was cooking food TV.
We used to watch Food Network.
I was at all when I was at home,like it would be food network
all day long.
Yeah, we would just watch foodnetwork all day long.
Like that was our thing.
Awesome.
That's what we would probablydo.
Kate (15:19):
Well, that was an incredible story of Jake and
Jordan.
There is something so specialabout that first dog you have as
an adult, especially the dogthat you have in your early
twenties.
Um, one word that comes to mindwhen thinking of Jordan and Jake
is determination, determination.
When she chose to fight for himat the shelter determination,
when she fought.
Through like the hard times ofgetting him properly trained.
(15:41):
And then of course, at the endto determination to stand by him
during his cancer fight.
Um, the story is incredible andit's just a beautiful story of a
girl and her dog.
And.
Um, that, that process of, ofgrowing up together.
Tooo.
Do.
(16:03):
Do.
Do.
Bark.
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