Episode 60: Coaching Spotlight - Soha Al-Jurf

Soha Al-Jurf combines her expertise in voice, speech-pathology, and Jungian psychology to create online and in-person workshops and 1-1 coaching to help women find their voices. Her signature program, Soundscapes of the Psyche, is her own unique methodology that uses the voice as a vehicle for psychological integration, offering individuals a process by which they hear their own recorded voice as an auditory mirror of their life's narrative. Snag her freebie Which Archetypal Voice Is Haunting Your Psyche? here: https://form.typeform.com/to/cxQbS6pk Soha’s Links: https://www.sohaaljurf.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/soha-al-jurf-a031261a https://www.amazon.com/Books-Soha-Al-Jurf/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3ASoha%2BAl-Jurf Bechira Summer Deals Implementation Membership: 40% off through 6/30 with coupon code ANNIVERSARY. Link has coupon code already applied: https://bechiracoaching.mvsite.app/products/courses/view/1174267/?action=signup&coupon=ANNIVERSARY Private Coaching Summer Special 50% off through 8/31 with coupon code ANNIVERSARY. Link does not have coupon code applied: https://bookwithbechiracoaching.as.me/anniversary-special May’s FOTM: Six Weeks to Mindset Mastery This handy guide to beginning a meditation practice is designed for solopreneurs & purposeful professionals who: • Have tried affirmations with limited success. • Feel stressed, overwhelmed, or tired all the time. • Struggle with self-doubt, inner critics, and pessimism. • Meet with coworkers or clients who bring added stress or anxiety. • Get hijacked by people-pleasing or perfectionist parts. • Fear that their “incompetence” will be exposed, despite past successes. Get it here: https://bechiracoaching.ck.page/5a1efc3782 If this episode resonated with you, please leave a review, share it with a friend, and let’s continue the conversation! What are your thoughts on asking for more? Send a message or comment on our latest post! Website and Linktree: Https://www.bechiracoaching.com https://linktr.ee/yaeldubin Free Quiz: :Is IFS Coaching Right for Me? Get on our mailing list: Join Our Mailing List Voice Over, Mixing and Mastering Credits: L. Connor Voice - [e-mail] https://www.Lconnorvoice.com Music Credits: Cool Ride by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/...) Artist: http://audionautix.com/

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the sold out success podcast,
where it's all about helping you stand in
your value,
truth, and strengths in your personal and professional
life.
Join your host, doctor Yael Dubin, to discover
how you can lead from your most authentic,
courageous self to create a lifetime of joy

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and abundance.
Hello, and welcome to the sold out success
podcast. I'm your
host, Doctor. Yael Dubin. And I have with
me someone that I've just recently met, and
I'm already a huge fan of hers,
Soja Aljarf.
Sooha combines her expertise in voice, speech pathology,

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and Jungian psychology to create online and in
person workshops and one to one coaching
to help women find their voices. Her signature
program, Soundscapes of the Psyche, is her own
unique methodology
that uses the voice as a vehicle for
psychological integration,
offering individuals a process by which they hear
their own recorded voice as an auditory mirror

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of their life's narrative.
I'm super excited that we were able to
get Soja on because she is having a
six week workshop coming up on June 22
entitled Unhaunting
the Psyche, which sounds so fascinating
that,
I really just wanted everyone in my audience
to have at least an opportunity to know

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about it. And hopefully, some people will join
in.
Welcome, Soha.
Thank you, Yael. It's really a pleasure to
be here.
It's a pleasure to be with you.
I don't know, if you know this or
not, but part I once a month at
least interview another coach on my podcast because
I deeply believe in coaching as a profession.

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And I think everybody needs a coach, but
I'm not the coach for everybody. So I
like people to have an opportunity
to meet other coaches. And your approach just
resonated with me as I've already shared, resonated
with something deep in me, and I wanted
to have an opportunity for you to share
your message
with my audience.
And so I'm curious if you could tell

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us a little bit about your coaching journey.
How did you get into coaching?
Oh, thank you.
Well,
so I
studied opera in my bachelor's degree for my
bachelor's degree, and then that led me into
working in clinical speech pathology,
with the voice. So there's a specialty in
speech pathology that is voice related or voice

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specialized.
So I did that for a number of
years and I when I was doing that,
I specialized in working with opera singers who
were injured,
singers in general who were injured, but my
kinda niche specialty has always been opera.
And I felt when I was working clinically
that I both I was kind of ambivalent
about my work. I loved and hated it.

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And I spent twenty years loving and hating
it, which is kind of a long time.
And people often said, well, what about private
practice? Maybe it's just the institution of medicine
that you're not into, which I know is
part of it. But I always just felt
like I was being called to do something
else.
And so it really did take, you know,

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twenty years of I don't think that was
wasted time at all. It just wasn't easy
time in the sense that I always felt
that I was struggling because I felt like
there was something else I was meant to
do,
but I didn't know what that looked like.
And so finally in 2013,
I quit my job and I,
I make that sound like it was easy.
It wasn't. I took a very long time

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and it was a very long process.
And then I just started to travel. So
I have a brother who lives in Dubai
and
I went and stayed with him for a
bit. And then Dubai, as many people know,
is a very central hub for travel.
So I just kind of started going to
different places from there and
ended up in Bali
and just spent a lot of time in

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Bali
in deep meditation. So there was something about
the culture in Bali just the peacefulness of
it, the Hinduism, the kind of like goddess
statues everywhere.
And they also have the
Hindu tradition in Bali.
They have a
festival
or a
holiday

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called Niyapi where they shut down the entire
island for twenty four hours so that people
can be in meditation and reflection.
And so I happened to be there on
Nyepi
and spent
the I sort of, powered up my laptop
so that I wouldn't because they shut everything
down. There's no electricity. There's no,

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the airport closes. The streets close. Like, everything
is really shut down so that everybody goes
into meditation
and reflection. And so I did that.
And
in my
sort of quest for
what am I doing? Help me. Can I
get some sort of guidance?
I spent twenty four hours in that. And

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at the end of that, I sort of
realized that
I wasn't gonna be able to leave voice
behind entirely,
but that speech pathology and clinical work was
not where I was meant to be. And
so how was I to combine
my voice work
with something in a way that it would

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be it would make sense for me, that
it would fulfill me and then also be
in service to others.
And I had some background
in Jungian psychology, Jungian archetypal psychology. So
there was something in that moment about
kind of Hindu
culture,
goddess statues everywhere, being in that deep meditation

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and then trying to figure out okay how
am I gonna put voice, archetypal psychology,
the feminine sort of the voice of the
feminine but also the feminist to some degree.
How was I gonna put all those together,
voice psychology, spirituality, and the feminine into one
thing?
And I just kept investigating that. And eventually,

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because I was already
a coach of sorts in my as being
a therapist for so long, being a speech
pathologist for so long, it just seemed like
a natural transition.
So you
you have
created something
truly spectacular.
I love hearing you talk about it. So
I'd love if you would share a little
bit about your method. I know that this

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that we didn't talk about you sharing this,
but I'd love for you to share a
little about your method.
And then I'm gonna continue on with some
other basic things. So I would love to
hear your method so that people really have
a sense
of the depth of the work that you
do. Sure. Thank you. So, yeah, I really
wanted to find a way to combine those
four things together. And I then went went

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ahead and got a Jungian psychology degree, and
I intentionally got a nonclinical degree because I
think I always felt this sense in speech
pathology and otherwise,
partly because speech pathology is a new ish
field.
And they try to make it a research
based
field but it's new enough that there's not
a lot of clinical research to guide practice
to guide clinical practice.

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So a lot of speech pathology practice
is based on combining science and intuition
and so that was always kind of the
model that I worked in for those twenty
years that I worked clinically and
myself when I went into therapy for example
talk therapy
there was a lot of talk therapy that
was really useful and there was a lot

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of talk therapy that I felt was based
in modalities that didn't work for everyone. So
I kind of started to think how can
I combine the twenty years of experience I've
had in using my intuition and science to
create,
exercises and things to help people reclaim their
voices, which I had to do clinically? It
was like I was doing, physical therapy for

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the voice.
I've been creating
exercises,
ways, methods for twenty years.
How might I do that in a way
that would suit people
who are not benefiting from talk therapy or
have stopped benefiting from talk therapy as I
felt I had at the time?
So at that time when all of this
was happening, I was quitting my job and

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I was doing all the soul searching, I
was working with a union analyst and she
was wonderful
and at some point she said to me
you know somehow for all the work you've
done helping other people find their voices I
don't know that you've found your own voice
yet.
And so it felt and I was in
my early 40s at the time and so
it really felt like
I was being called to make up my

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own thing.
And so I did and it's based in
voice science and it's based in
Jungian psychology
and as much as I've studied and put
all those together,
what I decided was that okay there must
be a pathway to the unconscious through the
voice
and I started reading the work of Julia
Kristeva
and she's a post Freudian

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feminist
psychoanalyst
and a lot of her work is based
on this idea that so much of Freudian
based psychology which is what a lot of
psychology is still based on and comes out
of so much of the root of that
is based in a masculine psychology.
And so what would it look like if
we created a feminine or even a feminist
psychology?

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And Kristeva goes back to the voice as
it turns out. And so it turned out
that it was just right up my alley
to
look into her work and see, okay, if
usually we're talking we're thinking of therapy as
narrative and talk and we're trying to get
at the unconscious through that.
Kristeva suggests that there's a more direct route
through the voice. And so
it was gave me this opening to this

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body of work that already existed
and I started trying to make it my
own. So what I did was I started
taking an intake with clients.
It was a a talk talking intake. That's
you know, we weren't singing or doing voice
in another way. We were still talking.
And what I started to do is I
started to record it
and rather than listen for words or narrative

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like would be kind of typical in a
Freudian based talk therapy
I started listening for patterns in the voice
just like I would if I were working
with a professional opera singer.
So when I'm working with a professional opera
singer, I am using the voice to get
at the unconscious. I'm using patterns because whatever
has created
a vocal injury in a singer is likely
unconscious. If it were conscious, they would have

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been able to change it.
And so I'm always combining my work with
singers and voice in general, voice therapy,
to try to figure out what is unknown
to you that is causing you to push
the voice, force the voice, sing like imitate
somebody else, be somebody you're not. That is
that is causing injury on the vocal tissue.
And I then started to draw a parallel

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between that and psychology because there's there's this
parallel in psychology that
a healthy psyche is one that flows pretty
easily. It's contained. It's structured.
It has what in the voice world we
would call, you know, pressure. There's pressure to
it. But the pressure doesn't overwhelm the flow.
There's a balance of pressure and flow. And

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so that structure of the psyche
that allows
information,
energy,
psychic energy to go back and forth between
consciousness and unconsciousness,
that's a healthy psyche.
If we get too much dammed up, then
we are we're always pushing against allowing a
flow in the psyche,

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then we end up with what some might
call a neurosis. There's there's or an ambivalence.
There's a struggle in the psyche. There's a
desire to push through and an inability to
push through. Some of us describe it as
stuckness, if we feel stuck.
If there's too much flow, the psyche gets
flooded.
And so
I started to realize
there's a parallel between that and the voice

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and can I find it? In other words,
when I'm working with the voice, I want
that balance of pressure and flow. Shouldn't the
same thing be true in the psyche? Shouldn't
it be reflected in the psyche? So I
started to record people talking and I started
to look for those patterns and from my
vantage point, I found them. I found the
patterns where the voice would be held or
stuck and then when the flow would release

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and it was things like there would be
a repetitive script that were most of us
who've gone to talk therapy are very familiar
with the repetitive scripts.
And so it was this kind of I'm
saying the same thing over and over again
or I'm saying it with a lot of
pressure or a lot of strain in the
voice. And then suddenly,
I say something that's true, that's actually an
alignment or an or authentic. And all of

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a sudden we get this balance of pressure
and flow. It's not that we flood because
that would be a different kind of either
neurosis or we could call it a psychosis
if everything totally floods, the unconscious takes over
everything,
then there's a flood. We don't want that
either. We want to have a balance. And
so I started looking through these audio recordings
of clients I was working with for these

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moments of balance.
And I
started putting those recordings into GarageBand, into digital
software,
and cutting them up and rearranging them so
that my client could start to hear their
own voice in the same way that I
was hearing their voice. So I wanted to
create for them a mirror of their own
psyche.
And so I do things like I add

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sound, I add sound effects, I add music.
Sometimes I add my own voice, sometimes I
sing, sometimes I recite poetry,
whatever I think is going to help them
see their unconscious
in the same way, in a very similar
way to what a deaf psychologist might do
in a therapy session,

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but I'm doing it through the voice and
through sound.
That is so cool. I love that.
So
you came up then with the program called
soundscapes of the psyche, which is just a
gorgeous name. Oh, thank you. And
what are you loving most about coaching in

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this way? What really lights you up about
the work that you're doing? To be honest,
the whole thing I mean, because I'm doing
a methodology
or trying to create a methodology,
I created a questionnaire that everybody gets. So
everybody gets the same questionnaire. But from the
moment I
because I do a discovery call first with
a with a client to make sure we're
a good fit. And from the moment I

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am on a discovery call and I realize
somebody's a good fit, everything just lights up
for me and and typically for them as
well. Because it's a new methodology, a lot
of people and as you noticed, it takes
me a while to explain it. And a
lot of people are are having kind of
trouble understanding what I'm talking about. Like, what
is she what is she doing?
But some people just the people who work

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with me intuitively feel like, okay. I don't
get it entirely, but I know I need
it. And to
to me, again, that is a tapping into
the unconscious
of
there's something lining up here. And to me,
it's something in the voice. It's something in
the feminine. It's something in it's soul led
work.
And so that is that really lights me
up when somebody intuitively gets it and just

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knows that, oh, I just know this is
the thing that I need.
And so that taking them through that original
that, initial questionnaire that I do on their
intake session
is also really incredible because everybody's getting the
same questions,
but everybody comes up with completely with a
completely different journey. It's not even people's people's
responses to those questions are not remotely the

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same. And even though the questions are relatively
simple,
almost every pretty much everyone I've done a
soundscape with so far has said, oh my
gosh, nobody's ever asked me those questions before.
I've never thought about those things before so
you know some of it is like typical
coaching it's past present future vision for your
life that kind of thing, but then I
have an entire section on sound voice and
music.

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And so how is that living in your
psyche? How's it living in the unconscious?
So instead of digging into past trauma, I'm
digging into past sound.
And like I mentioned, I intentionally didn't get
a clinical degree. So I'm not a clinical
psychologist
and I'm not a licensed psychologist. So what
I need to be doing is coaching and

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where my zone of genius is is in
coaching.
And as you and I were talking about
before, I want to partner with people like
you so that if they need more work,
they can go talk to you in that
in that more traditional sense
about their more in a more of a
perhaps trauma based healing. But my clients generally
a perfect fit client for me is not

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at the beginning of their healing journey. A
perfect fit client for me is somebody who
has done therapy, feels stuck, feels like it
worked to a degree,
knows their scripts, knows they're repeating themselves, knows
there's gotta be more, and wants something to
really
blow apart
their conscious mind and their patterns
that they that nothing else can.

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So that all lights me up. And then
the process of doing the soundscape, I spend
thirty hours
with the with my clients in with my
clients recording.
So we do about a one hour recording,
when they're answering the questionnaire.
And that gives me
the,
that gives me
the sound that I'm gonna be working with

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to play with and mold into the soundscape.
And that process is a very creative and
artistic process for me. A lot of people
say, I can't believe you're spending thirty hours
with it. Isn't there a way to give
that to AI? Isn't there a way to
look? And but that is the apps. I
love
the work. I mean, because what we end
up with, I am very intimately spending time

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with someone even though they're not directly in
my presence in that moment.
But I'm I'm doing really intimate work that
is so heart centered for me.
And so the whole thing for me is
it's creative.
We end up with this beautiful work of
art,
that's a mirror of the person's psyche. And
I think part of that creative process for

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me
gives them a reflection,
which I'm always doing in my coaching, but
in this particular coaching because there's so much,
like, at stake.
I need to make sure that I'm giving
them something that reflects them and that they
don't walk away from and say, well, that's
not me. And so the stakes are so
high. And I think with that high of
stakes,
I really wanna give the person back something

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where they can fall as in love with
themselves
as I did when I was making this
piece of art that reflects who they are.
I love that. Fall is in love with
themselves as you fell in love with them
when you were listening to their voices. It's
beautiful. It's a really beautiful thing.
Now you
you mentioned some of the feedback you get
from clients when they hear their recording.

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And I'm curious if you'd be willing to
share. I know it might feel a little
bit like bragging, but I'm asking for you
to just share a little bit of what
you hear from people.
Yeah. I don't I it's funny because I
think as with anybody who does code this
kind of work,
yes, I'm doing it. But as you probably
know also, like, there's it's not mine. I

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mean, it came through me. And so,
I'm just grateful that whatever is guiding me
is guiding me, if that makes sense.
And what's really beautiful is how many people
come out saying that they fell in love
with themselves,
that they,
or that they, you know,
never really thought they liked their voice or

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didn't like their voice, but a) that they
love their voice
and that that is a
portal or
a bridge
to really falling in love with themselves. I
think that that is I mean I've accomplished
what I set out to accomplish.
A lot of people who

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who feel stuck in therapy or felt like
they were broken no longer feel broken.
They just really see that their path makes
sense, that all the puzzle pieces fit together.
And like I said, we're not digging into
trauma. Some trauma might come up,
but
the way that I'm trying to put all
the puzzle pieces of sound together,

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my true belief is that they do make
a cohesive narrative. All of our lives have
to make a cohesive narrative.
That's to me that's the gig and that,
you and I have talked a little bit
about how we both bring that spirituality into
our work and for me,
that's the spiritual piece. Your life has to
make sense. There's no alternative.
And so somehow I have to put these

(19:59):
pieces together so that you can also see
how clear it is that your life makes
sense without me saying to you, you know,
in writing we talk about this sort of
like show don't tell. And I feel like
in talk therapy our only option is to
tell it's it's much harder to show and
so this whole thing that I'm creating is
a showing

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and I don't have to tell them anything.
I don't have to convince them that they're
beautiful. I I don't have to convince them
that they're strong. I don't have to convince
them that they're empowered. I don't have to
convince them that they're on path. I just
have to show them. And that for me
has been the beauty that they hear this
and they don't always know again, they don't
always know what they heard.
Some of them come to the end and

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they're like, I don't know why, but I'm
just crying. I don't know why, but I'm
you know, I need I need an afternoon.
Like, I need to digest.
And then after that, we do I do
some coaching,
to help them integrate and understand
what I heard, and bring it more into
consciousness. But that idea that they just come
out of it totally in love with themselves,

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is is why I do it.
Yeah. That's a fantastic result.
Yeah. That's a fantastic result.
I know my people in my audience have
heard me say this before, but I do
believe that each of us is an opening
through which the divine manifests.
And it will manifest so much more effectively
if we love ourselves.
Because when we don't love ourselves, we shut

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it down.
And that we shut down usually precisely the
thing that needs to come forward in the
world. Yes. I think that is true and
that is one of the bizarre mysteries of
being a human.
I just it is one of those things
that I can't wrap my head around but
it's so pervasive that lack of complete and
total
positive regard for oneself.

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Yeah. It's it's a fascinating and
and really,
I just don't know where that comes from.
Yeah. And then I I hear from just
on a like a tiny little tangent, I
hear from other people who say, oh, people
value themselves too much. I'm like, yes. It's
one thing. I value myself as a as
an opening through which the divine manifests,

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and you are also
that. And so is everybody else, and so
is my dog who's sleeping right there. My
divine manifest to whom has incredible loyalty.
So there there's that in all of us.
Right? And to honor that in each other,
which is what you're bringing
to your clients through this process.

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And I wanna share for my listeners
who may maybe this doesn't
quite
you're still it's a little mystifying.
Have you ever heard someone lie to you
and you just kinda know by the sound
of their voice that they're lying? You just
something it's not that you know the facts
and you can dispute the facts. There's something
about the way they sound. Their voice just

(22:50):
doesn't sound right. The voice is off. That
that is
something that
a careful listener can hear for that misalignment
and also the times when someone is perfectly
aligned and beautifully
aligned with them, their true selves. So that's

(23:11):
what Soha is able to hear very well
and reflect back to people so that you
can hear it for yourself.
Yeah. And I mean, in addition to being
a trained opera singer from the age of,
like, 12,
I've spent
thousands and thousands and thousands of hours listening
to voices very very very intently

(23:31):
and
I also spent you know many many many
many hours studying the voice.
So we all kind of I think
those of us who have an expertise in
something I've noticed that we all kind of
use it similarly.
So I'll have very similar conversations with a
very skilled,
you know carpenter or contractor or you know

(23:53):
people who a lot of people who just
reach a level of expertise
they see the world through that lens
and so voice just happens to be my
lens. I also want to just
mention to your point,
I think you were kind of referencing me
the potential arrogance
of the divine works through me.

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And I hear what you're saying and I
think that some people do function in that.
I think that people who are truly called
to be in service,
I think that they have to go through
a long initiation of suffering
before they really can be
humble channels of the divine. And so,

(24:36):
you know, I think
for me in particular and for a lot
of the people I work with,
for me I can speak for myself,
there's been a lot of of suffering that
has gone into this life and a lot
of questioning why. Like I said I spent
twenty years of my career
miserable
like really unhappy
and thinking well I love this I should
love it I should be happy and for

(24:57):
a lot of it I was living in
San Francisco. Oh I should love San Francisco
I should be what's wrong with me? And
that is what led me to therapy. And
that sense of why am I not happy
and what's wrong with me and why am
I what this can't be right.
And and I think especially for people who
are younger, and I just turned 50 this
year,
but I think when you're in your 20s
and 30s, sometimes that struggle can feel futile

(25:20):
like
I'm suffering for nothing.
And
I think those of us who've been through
it long enough realize
that's just not how this works.
And that sort of wounded healer archetype or
you know there are other ways to look
at that as well.
I think there's a there's a way in
which
people who
are humble or are humbled

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by life.
It just it I think first you get
humbled by life, and then you get humbled
by life again, and you keep getting humbled
by life. And then maybe you have something
to teach. At least that's been my experience.
Yeah. And and I am certainly, by the
way, not saying that I worry about people's
arrogance. I I think that true humility is

(26:03):
also about knowing your limits.
%.
Really. But I know that when I say,
oh, everybody is a little point of divinity,
that's what I hear back from people
often is this concern about arrogance, which Interesting.
Which I think, again, you know, humility is
about knowing your limits.
You're here to serve, but this is your
dish. This is the dish you serve. You
not %. Everybody cooks all the food. You

(26:25):
have your specialty.
Exactly. Exactly.
So so I'm finding that just like last
time when I met with you so high,
I could just go on and talk for
hours,
which is fantastic, but maybe,
that just means I'll have to have you
on again. I'm really excited that we had
this opportunity to get you on the podcast
in time for my audience to hear about

(26:47):
your six week workshop.
First, I wanna let people know that if
you pick up the freebie that is in
the show notes, you will get on Soha's
mailing list and you can learn more about
the workshop.
Did you wanna say a sentence or two
about the workshop
so that people know what that's about?
Yeah. So in the work that I've done

(27:09):
with the soundscapes,
now that I've done, you know, many of
them and like I mentioned, I'm trying to
create a methodology.
I wanted to know if there were archetypes,
that were showing up in every single person's
soundscape. Is are there patterns?
And I, at least to this point, have
identified six archetypes

(27:29):
that do indeed seem to show up in
people's soundscapes
that are
making the voice heard or known. They're making
their voice heard or known that are covering
up the person's authentic voice.
So similar to other, you know, kinds of,
psychologies that we use the archetypes, you know,
there's there's clearly a mother archetype

(27:51):
and often she takes on a either whiny
voice or,
I call her the voice of the murmuring
mother because she's sort of like this nagging
undercurrent of the mother the archetypal mother.
So,
the workshop I'm doing is going to delve
into
those six primary archetypes of the soundscape. So

(28:12):
they're the six primary archetypes that
I suspect
haunt everybody's psyche.
Yeah. So so and the six in case
anybody's interested the mother, the father,
and the child. Those are three primary very
common archetypes, but then there are archetypes that
I've identified that seem to be specific to
the voice in my work.
Wow. Wonderful.

(28:33):
Okay. So if you are listening still as
we are closing up, grab that freebie. Don't
hesitate. If you know already you wanna participate
in the workshop, Soha invites you to email
her directly.
Soha, would you like to say any final
words to close us out for today?
Just thank you. Thank you so much for
having me. And,

(28:54):
I know that I my sentences are long,
so I apologize
for the way I know we, we're trying
to keep it a little shorter. But,
but, yes, I also could talk to you
all day. So thank you very much for
having me.
Wonderful.
Bye now.
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