When Loss Becomes Awakening: Grief, Intuition & Connection Beyond Death with Jennifer Chaney

Join me for a heartfelt and expansive live conversation with Jennifer Chaney, Intuitive Psychic Medium, Twin Flame Grief Support Coach, and Certified Spiritual Life Advisor, as we explore how profound loss can become a catalyst for spiritual awakening and deeper connection beyond the physical realm.

In this episode, Jennifer shares her personal journey of grief and transformation—how profound loss opened the doorway to her mediumship and awakened her intuitive gifts. Together, we explore the ways grief reshapes the nervous system, the soul’s capacity to perceive beyond the veil, and how healing can occur when we allow connection, love, and meaning to transcend physical separation.

This conversation offers reassurance, insight, and hope for anyone navigating loss, longing, or spiritual questioning, reminding us that connection does not end with death—it simply changes form.

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Episode Transcript

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Hello, Hello, soulful seekers. Welcome back to Trauma and
Transcendence. You know, I've got a brand new
guest for you today. I have the lovely Jen Chaney.
Jen has had an incredible journey.
It's been a very soulful journey.
We're going to dig into what that means momentarily, but Jen

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is an intuitive psychic medium. She's a Twin Flame grief support
coach and certified spiritual life advisor.
And Jen, what got you started onthat path?
Oh hello. Many things.
But a few years ago, late IN2023I experienced a series of

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losses and that is really what kicked off the ultimate dark
night of the soul spiritual awakening.
And that put me on my path to, to do what what I'm doing now,
which is helping others through their grief and, and their

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transcendence and, and all of those things to, to really help
them get through it. So you got the healer starter
kit bundle? I did.
I was really lucky, I will say that I had a very long slow
development from the point that I was like early childhood.
So nothing felt rushed or too pressured for me.

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And I'm kind of really grateful for that.
Some of these souls who come in and take like the full advanced
mode. Let's go.
You guys are way courageous and brave.
I really honor you for that. I'm I'm lucky that it was the
pace that it was for me. Yeah, absolutely.
What was that like to just wave after wave, have all of those

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activating events? And how, at what point did you
start to recognize, oh, this is an opportunity, This isn't just.
Yeah, yeah. So I have to say there were some
things, you know, along the way,little bread crumbs in, in past
years, because I, I've, I hadn'texperienced a lot of loss
throughout my life. And I think that my, my soul

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really needed to shake me this time, you know, because there
were little inklings kind of along the way that made me
realize, you know, that there was more to this.
And, and I knew those things. It wasn't until I was really,
really jolted and it that just kind of spiralled into there

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must be more. Where did they go?
And then so post post loss, it really opened my eyes to, you
know, I, I was just at a really,really dark time.
I spent a few months to where I just shut the entire world out.

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I didn't really want to, I I just didn't want to be a part of
the world anymore. Just I didn't, I didn't want to
be here. And I was kind of in between
these two worlds, it felt like, and I was at the same time
experiencing tremendous synchronicities, things that

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were kind of felt like somethingwas trying to get my attention.
And then so I started down that path to kind of learn more about
why and where is this coming from, you know, and what are
they trying to tell me And so. Those those little
synchronicities that you were starting to notice.

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A lot of numbers, a lot of things that were in tune with my
thoughts. I would have to say that was one
of the earliest synchronicities were the constant reoccurring
numbers. I would wake up in the middle of
the night and just feel this urge to look at my phone and it
would be 444, you know, and I, there's just, there's just no,

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no way that that is random, you know, there, there was just, it
was so much in my face that I thought, what are they trying to
tell me? And then that really just kind
of led me down that that rabbit hole and, and I'm glad that it
did because I was in a really dark place.

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But now I see that that was the journey that my soul was meant
to take. And that's what needed to happen
to put me on this path. And now I can do what I love to
do and and lead a more more fulfilling life.
I think a lot of people have those initial sequence of
events. They have a really life

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shifting, changing loss. They have things start to fall
apart and they don't see that it's part of something bigger,
right? I know, at least for myself, I
certainly didn't when I went through that the first divorce,
I did not see how that was goingto be for my benefit at all.
Right. Yeah, but I think it absolutely
needed to happen. And then along the way, I did

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have little synchronicities and things too.
There were a couple of dreams that validated of, oh, you need
to go have this experience. This is on time for your soul's
mission, right? And I think those little moments
can kind of fortify our systems.They can kind of embolden us.
They can give us that little bitof inspiration or courage to
follow the crazy thing that we're not supposed to do or, you

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know, that we maybe wouldn't have.
Yeah, yeah. And dreams, dreams were very
significant early on for me as well, because I would, the
dreams that I would have, there were a few where I, I mean, they
were, they were very much like another dimension, some sort of
Oasis, if you will. But it was so real and I don't

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know how my mind would have madethat up, especially because I
was in such a dark place and it was almost like this escape and
but it was it was leading me towards to know that there there
is more and there are other dimensions and there's a lot
more of to explore. It's endless.
So that's when you started to have those first couple of
glimpses of what happens when you lose someone that you love.

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Yeah. Yeah.
And where did you go from there?What happened next?
So one of the very earliest things that I knew that I might
be picking up on something internally, I've always been
sort of like an overthinker, butI would have a lot of thoughts
that would come and go and they would seem so random and it

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would say, you know, where, where is this coming from?
What am I picking up on? So I kind of always had that in
the back of my mind. And then, and I've always been
fascinated with mediumship and animal communication.
And so one of the very earliest things was, you know, in my, my
darkest time, I would just sit by the window and I would just

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just watch outside and just, youknow, try to soak up the beauty
and try to try to look for things.
And of all things, you know, I noticed actually that animals,
birds, squirrels, I was getting impressions from them.
And that led to kind of say, well, what if I stretch this a
little bit further and I, you know, and I ask them something,

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you know, and then I would kind of get another impression.
And I'm like, this is this is insane.
And there were things a lot to do with animals really early on.
I remember I was, I would try todo things, you know, for, for
other people to make myself feelbetter because I was in such a
bad place and my neighborhood actually had some stray cats and
it was winter time and I was building some cat boxes.

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So then I'm sitting there and I'm working on them all day and
I'm thinking about these cats that I'm going to make these
Styrofoam boxes and maybe they'll have shelter.
And then when I went to take them outside, there were two
cats sitting there waiting. Like they knew that I was, that
I had been working on this and but never had that, you know,
anything like that happened before.
But that was really the earliest, earliest signs.

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And then from there I actually went and visited a medium.
One of the first things that shetold me was she said, you do
what I do. I said, well, really, because
I've been wondering, you know, I've been getting some things
and, and she was kind enough to actually kind of quiz me.
And she said, I'm going to tell you I have a friend and I'm

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going to give you her name and Iwant you to tell me something
about her. And automatically in my third
eye, I saw books and here, you know, she's a avid reader, an
author. And so it was, it was really eye
opening. And and then from there, I just
kind of started throwing out information I need anytime I

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could to kind of see what I was getting.
And at that time I was still, I was working for the county, for
the government and at a desk job.
And I just kind of started practicing around with my Co
workers and seeing what I could get.
And I was just amazed. I couldn't even believe it
myself. Everything was so spot on.
And it was like, yes, yes, this is this is what I meant to do.

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This is what brings me joy. Nothing else, but this is really
bringing me joy. So I just jumped all in.
Yeah. And then where did you go from
there? Just starting to test the
abilities to understand how you work better and finding limits.

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Or bringing their own. I just wanted to get as much
information as I possibly could.I really wanted to see because I
had always watched, you know, some other psychic mediums and
how they worked. I was always fascinated by it,
but you know, a lot of those things click and we're all
different in the way that we read.
So but I just wanted to learn. I couldn't learn enough.

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I, I just really, really engulfed myself in all of that
and kind of seeing how I could kind of use some of those tools
to bring forward the informationthat I was getting.
I really feel like that is a trademark of spiritual awakening
is that unquenchable thirst for knowledge.

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And it's that knowledge that's not in your standard textbook.
It's the deeper the questions ofthe soul for sure.
Yeah, absolutely. And Carl Jung played a huge part
in all of that. I mean, when I was getting my my
undergraduate degree in psychology, I, well, in that
class, I, you know, I had kind of grazed over that subject.

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I knew about him and I knew thatthat was kind of the grandfather
of synchronicity. And then it just unraveled a lot
from there. And I really learned about, you
know, the awakening path, the dark end of the soul.
I resonated so deeply with that.And that really helped me along
the. Way and that was before the loss
had happened. So it just kind of goes to show

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you there were some little key cornerstones of your foundation.
There were similar to mine. There was lots from early
childhood. And it's like, of course I'm
doing what I'm doing and not doing something else.
All of it was there, but you hadthose little key things in place
that maybe you didn't kind of look at in that moment because
you had other goals and aspirations.

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Right, right. And now I, I feel like that was
kind of part of my soul and, youknow, showing me these things,
but it wasn't, it wasn't enough to really awaken me to what was
out there. And it's, it's not all pretty,
you know, after that dark night of the soul and even during it,
there's so much, so much grief, so much despair.

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And a lot of, you know, that ledme to my shadow work.
Yeah. So.
And through that shadow work is really where I started to, to
find myself. And as Carl Jung Jung would say,
you know, the self actualization,
individualization, you know, that's, that's really where I

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started to find myself. And then a lot of things
surfaced, you know, and I think that's partly where I, I
discovered you because I thought, you know, I'm still
having some panic, some things that I just couldn't get to the
bottom of. And then I had the IEMT therapy,
which was great with really getting to some of those.

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And it still makes me laugh to this day because you could have
seen any iemtier. Yeah.
Would you like the one that teaches mediumship and that
lives this life regularly? Isn't that something?
Yeah. Yeah, I remember laughing that
day and telling you, yeah, you definitely got the right one.
Absolutely I would. And so that helped facilitate

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some of the healing that you needed too.
For the people in the audience who aren't familiar with Dark
Night of the Soul, how would youexplain that for them in case
they might be going through it and they don't know that term?
Yeah. So it's really just where your
soul, I think it's your soul trying to wake you up,
obviously, but it just, it's at your lowest point, the lowest

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point that you can really imagine in your life where
everything's dark. I mean it, it really is just
despair. You know, from there that
darkness is where you really look for the light because you
just, you know, you can't end it.
You know, you must go on and, and you know that there has to
be a purpose. And I, I think my guides and,

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and my, my spirit team for, for the synchronicities because, you
know, not that I was suicidal, but it really was this constant
reminder that he like, there's, there's really a purpose to
this, you know. And so I would just really
always recommend that, you know,you look for those things.

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Look, look for the little nuances and the, the repetitive
things or the things that you might say, well, that's just a
coincidence. But now I know there are no
coincidences and it's really just your soul, you know, lining
you up. But yeah, I think that's the
only other way for me to explainit.
It's just utter despair. I like that you explain it as

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it's your soul waking you up. I tend to go from the opposite
route, and it's just because of the experience that I had with
it myself. And for me, it's more of the
death of the ego. The ego tends to tell us that
things have to be a certain way.And when I get clients that come
and see me who are in the midst of that dark night of the soul,
and sometimes I will rebrand it,kind of like Robert Ohado, one

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of my favorite authors, used to do.
He'd say it was dark night of the ego because it's the ego
that's dying and the ego's vision of how your life should
be that's now being deconstructed.
And the more that you cling to it and you hold on to it, the
more painful it gets because it is the soul redirecting to say,
OK, that's cute. Now it's time to do what you
were planted here for. Exactly, and that's kind of the

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longer version of it. You know, the because it, it's
not, it's not a quick thing. It's a, it's a process.
The the dark night of the soul. It's a complete rebranding of
who you are and a birth of, of who you are.
It's not a new you. I mean, you're just, I mean, it
is a new you, but it it's, it's not even a new version of the

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old you. And so a lot of things fall
apart. That's the moment where they're
like, oh, I'm not just this. There's more.
And then they start to have thatrealization about I'm a soul.
I'm having a spiritual experience in a human body, and
they open to those kinds of concepts more.
At least that was my experience.Right, right.

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Yeah. That's a bigger awakening
moment. And so you came through the Dark
night of the soul. You used a little bit of iemt
that helped you. Then I think as we were working
on one of your IEMT sessions, you're like, I'm booked to go to
Arthur Findley. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, I, I just on a whim, right after, right after the new

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year, I started thinking, OK, I'm going to, I'm going to take
this seriously. And so, you know, there was that
whole year where I thought, OK, I can, I think I can do this.
There might be a way. And the, the more I just
searched and, and I-1 random day, I thought, I'm going to go,

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I'm just going to go to a school.
I want to take this seriously. One random day.
Yeah, it was just on a whale. No.
Not one random day. Yeah, yeah, it just.
It was directly in alignment. Your soul is like here next.
Right. It really was because I didn't
even know. I didn't even know anything
about Arthur Findlay College before I booked it.
I just thought for those who. Don't.

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How would you describe it? Well, it's the Spiritualist
school in England. It's located in Essex, England
and they've, they've been aroundfor quite some time.
But that is, that is the place to learn about spiritualism.
It's the the home of the Spiritualist National Union and

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you know, it's, it's magical. I do know that it was life
changing it really. Was that's a more accurate way
of describing it than typically I do?
I usually say it's the Disneyland of mediums.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could say.That or the Hogwarts.
The Hogwarts of Mediumship. Right, right.

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And that is, that is a place where people go to learn.
The beautiful thing about spiritualism and mediumship is
that you do not have to practicespiritualism to be a medium, and
you don't have to vice versa. Either, right?
That's great, yeah. Yeah, for those who aren't
familiar, Spiritualism is a, it's hard to explain a little

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bit, but it is a system of belief, not necessarily a
religion, but kind of a spirituality that is built on
looking for evidence of proof afterlife.
And so there are mental mediums,emotional mediums, there are
physical mediums who do just that and they incorporate things
like healing in their services. Really, really cool experience

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to have. Did you get to attend any of
the? Well, you mean which attend?
Any of the spiritualist servicesthat they might.
Have had Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There was services which I lovedand I, I know now that
spiritualism is really where my heart is.
You know, I, I grew up semi religious, went to a Baptist

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Church and so I always kind of picked my beliefs from here or
there. And, but I, I really found that
to be my home. That really resonated because
they they share a lot of the same values that I share.
So it was just amazing. Yeah, it's it is quite unique.

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It is very, very different. I had an opportunity to go a
couple of times, once in Lilydale when I went for
training because they hold regular spiritual services and
healing services there too. And then when I lived in Boston,
MA, Rita Berkowitz also held services in, I want to say,
Braintree First Spiritualist Church, and then there were some

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also on one of the nearby reservations too.
It is quite an experience, yeah.I think for those of us,
especially the ones who grew up with mediumship as children,
they're like, finally somewhere where I fit as a puzzle piece.
Right, right. A lot of demonstrations that
which is very fascinating. It's fun.

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I enjoyed a lot of. And it's mediumship
demonstration when you want a mediumship demonstration, not
just because someone's walking through the grocery store and
has the sudden urge to throw it at you without boundaries a lot.
Because really there are times and spaces to practice
mediumship. I mean, we're going through
people's lives, their connections.

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And it really, really bugs me when someone doesn't practice
healthy boundaries with that. Because it is so sacred and it
is such a sensitive subject for some people.
Some people are just raw with emotion.
And so you don't want to ruin their day, you know.
So I definitely get that. I've, I'm not brave enough to
approach anyone. I mean, I, I did, like I said,

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play around with some of my ex Co workers and things like that.
But these were people I knew, you know?
Yeah. People were new who were open
and in a safe environment to receive that, not someone who
has to get in their car and drive while they're emotionally
dysregulated. I don't want that responsibility
at all. Absolutely.
So it's. You know, you say it's not

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brave, but I think it's appropriate and you're
practicing really healthy boundaries with your mediumship
at that point, Yes. And so when you went to Arthur
Finley, how did that impact yourjourney?
What was that like? Well, it was amazing.
I mean, I didn't really have anyexpectations.
I just thought this is where I'mgoing to go to learn.
And I really underestimated how much of an experiences, you

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know, that I would have because I, I had one of the, the best
tutors there. Her name is Wendy Lyon.
And the room that we were in, wegot to be in the library at, at
the college. And it holds such great energy
there. And when I say magical, I mean,
it really was, it felt like the veil was very thin.
And so being amongst, you know, other mediums that were

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developing the same as as myself, that was that was great.
And so we spent a lot of time practicing with each other.
That in itself is huge. It is.
Having done mediumship training,had the experience, but also
facilitating mediumship training, you see it all the
time. The more mediums are together,

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the stronger we get to hold and bridge the vibration.
And so messages can come throughso much more effectively.
And then the fun thing is you get to play little games.
You get to see who picks up on what.
Because there might be a medium who's really, really powerful
with the clear empathy and you may have someone else who's just
very clear cognitive and then yet another one who's good at

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like, you know, the, the medicalintuition.
And so it's fun to kind of piggyback and ping pong to
deliver a message. It is, and then, you know, by
the end of it because we're reading each other, you know,
over and over. And so it really helped kind of
stretch our capabilities becausethere's a lot of things that are
at surface level and you know, you can pick up on it.

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But once you read the same person, you know, so many times
in a row and you have to really dig into more things, the layers
and play around with things likecolors and music and things like
that. It was wonderful.
We just say it becomes more evidential at that point that
you're really going to spirit more often to say, OK, give me

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something that no one else is going to know so they know this
is you. Absolutely, yeah.
Yeah, that's definitely the goal, You know, and even with
clients, you know, you, you wantthem to know for sure that you
have their love. Yeah, I think that's a key part
of it. And believe it or not, I don't
know that all people consider itthis way, but when I went
through training, one of the things they told us is you're

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not responsible to bring througha message.
Spirit doesn't always come with a message.
Your job is to validate that spirit is there and who they
were, what their life was to thebest of your ability.
And if they have a message, great, that's bonus.
Right. Well, a lot of times the
evidence is the message. Hey, we're here, you know?
Yeah. It can be, and they definitely

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choose specific things because they could choose so many things
about themselves, but they're choosing one or two specific
things that hit a point. Yeah, yeah.
And, and leaning into that and really being able to paint the
picture as to why they brought this forward and the
significance of that, you know, that that's usually the message.
And I just really, really enjoy being that for someone and being

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the channel in the medium. Yeah, that really is an honor to
be in that position, and it's a position that takes integrity.
I've seen mediums who've lost their abilities over the years,
and it was because they did things that they shouldn't have
been doing. They were prying for
information. They were not respecting
boundaries, they were kind of emotional vampires and their
abilities just kind of dried up and gone.

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And I really think it's because they have to be also doing self
work. A medium is only ever going to
give a message as clear as they are inside.
And that's just the reality. We have to be doing our own work
all the time. Right.
And we have to raise our vibration to, you know, and they
have to lower theirs and kind ofmeet there.

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And if you're not doing it for the right reasons, well, then
you're just you're not going to raise your vibration enough and
and they're not going to waste their time on trying to lower
theirs. Yeah.
So it is really beautiful, incredible work.
There is nothing else like it. And it does come with extreme
catharsis and healing, as you'velearned first hand.

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Right, right. Yeah, yeah.
It takes a lot of looking at, atyourself and, you know, and, and
even just empathizing with people really being able to come
from a place of saying, you know, I know what this is like,
you know, I, I, I really, reallyempathize and sympathize with
you, you know, And so I don't think that I don't think that

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mediums who haven't experienced tremendous loss are doing the
greatest service because they, they just can't understand, you
know, and, and the right way to deliver a message, you know,
because you want to be really thoughtful in the way that, you
know, you, you handle that. And there are some precarious
situations that can come up withmediumship when it comes to

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people's loved ones in spirit because their personality is
still intact. And if you have someone who is a
bit of a jokester, a bit of a trickster, like to embarrass
their loved one, that tendency doesn't just always go away.
So you can really find yourself in some really interesting
situations of how am I going to deliver this message and still
be respectful and right healing situation and not one where the

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client is just like, wow, why doyou know that and I'm never
coming here again kind of situation.
Right. Yeah, yeah.
Some of those more uncomfortableones, it they tend to bring it
through with me in pieces so that I'm not kind of like it's,
it's well, here's this bit of information, here's this bit of
like what what's kind of going on here?
And then they'll say, and it's like, I'm so glad I didn't have

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to be the one to bring that thatthrough, you know?
I've had some precarious ones over the years and I will never
forget them as a result because it's like, oh there is no way to
soften that. Thank you for that.
Wow, I couldn't have found someone else to deliver that
one, huh? Right.
But at the same time it really brings through, like you said,

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their personality and and that that can be so valuable to your
sitter. It really can't.
And then? Really.
That you have them. I actually wasn't going to
deliver that message, but I had another friend who was there who
was also a medium. She's like, no, you have to give
that message. And she's like, just trust me.

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And I did. And so when I told this, this
really young widow who'd lost her person no less than a year
before, what the message was, she's like that.
That's what he used to do. That was his personality.
He would purposely do things to make me blush.
And it's like, now I know it's him.
There you go. Yep, that's great.
Yeah, I love that. So Arthur Finley helped you

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become a medium. How long did it take roughly for
you? Well, I really, when I set out
on this journey, you know, I, I told spirit, OK, if this is what
you want me to do, I'll, I'll give it a solid year and I'll do
as many readings as I can for free and just really practice,
learn and see. And so that's, that's what I

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did. And then I resigned for my
position as county worker. And then I've just spent the
last year kind of all in building my business, trying to
gain clients and just kind of put information out there to
help people because it's the endof the day.
That's really all I've ever wanted to do.
And that's that's really what this is about for me.

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So what the last two years some of your.
Favorite clients to read for? What are their life situations
that are unfolding and how are you able to help them?
If you have like a favorite casestudy or something you can say
it. Just don't say their name.
Yeah, yeah. Well, let me kind of take notes
here trying to think of some good ones right off the bat.

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One of the earlier ones that I had, which is still still one of
my favorites, it was actually a Co worker of mine and I had
learned that it was the anniversary of his father's
passing and he wasn't necessarily open to the spirit
world. By the best.
Yeah, yeah. And that that's, I think why it

(29:03):
stuck with me. And he was just having a hard
day. And I learned of why.
And then I sat in in silence andI got some things.
And sometimes I like to write things down ahead of time
because I sometimes I had the impressions come through so fast
and I was getting like pictures of clouds and airplanes and then
that stripes. And what I would do early on was

(29:24):
I would get the information and then I would sit with it.
And if I, if it kept coming backup, then I would deliver it
because I really wanted to be sure.
And I just couldn't let go of this.
I mean, the anxiety was building.
Spirit was like, you're not going to think about anything
else until I just had to get it out.

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You know, it came to be, you know, I learned that he, his dad
was a paratrooper in the military.
You know, that because he was a skeptic.
It was it, it really shook me, you know, because you, you can
actually make a difference in someone's life.

(30:06):
You know, that that was one of the earliest that I that I
really, really resonated with. And I think of him often because
of that. That was a big part.
It was a big. It was a big part of my.
Journey identity that was his profession in his life.
Yeah, yeah, a lot, a lot of during the, you know, even

(30:27):
practicing gotten, I didn't realize how much healing there
was in me getting readings constantly, you know.
And so that's been a big part of, of getting going and
learning about kind of with other mediums, you know, how how

(30:49):
to, how to work, how to, how to read into something.
Yeah, both into anything here. And I've taken the last couple
weeks off and, and now I'm just kind of out of sorts a bit.
But it sounds like you have an idea.
You have the idea that the skeptical people who also need

(31:11):
the healing and maybe aren't aware of it tend to be the ones
that you get the most enjoyment out of.
It is, yeah. Yeah, I think, I think that's
really what propels me, you know, to do that.
You know, I've brought through so many, so many loved ones.
Another reading was it was actually a friend of mine where
I was able to bring through her,her daughter that had passed on

(31:36):
and she had passed on at A at a really young age.
And that was so healing. And it was and and I feel so
honored at the same time. I'm just because I didn't, I
didn't know much about her, you know, but I thought, well, let
me just see what I can get. And and I know that that was
extremely healing. And still, I think I've only

(31:57):
ever ever brought through two children.
Yeah. You know.
It's a totally different dynamicand level of healing that needs
to happen and it's happening on both ends and that's what makes
it so profound. I've had the privilege of doing
that a couple of times and one of them was not anticipated at
all. I wasn't doing a mediumship
reading. That wasn't the intent of it.

(32:19):
I think I was actually doing an emotion code session and I was
just sharing the impressions that I was getting.
And then the person came back and said, wait a minute, go
deeper on this one or two thingsbecause I think you're picking
up on something really importantfor me.
And so I did. Yeah.
And I think that when we step forward as intuitive, when we
step forward as coaches, it's really important that we don't

(32:41):
say, oh, I can't or I don't knowif someone's asking you for
something, right? And instead we say, you know
what, let me give that a shot and we'll see what happens.
Not making promises, I don't know.
And then just actually press andsee if you can find the edge or
the boundary of where your giftsend.
Because what I've learned is often there isn't, there is a

(33:04):
lot of self-imposed boundary. There's a lot of self-imposed
beliefs. But often when I just open and I
allow, that's some of the reallybig deep abilities come through
and the impressions get so much stronger, faster and easier.
But when we're working on someone who's lost a child,
that's, I don't know that there's anything deeper than

(33:25):
that. Even when it's people who've
been married for almost a century, you know, they have a
certain level of peace. But losing a child, there's
nothing like that. And there's always a layer of,
you know, that parent wanting toknow that there's not more that
they could have done. Right, right and other.
Things that had to happen. Yeah, yeah.

(33:48):
And it's just such a sacred bond, you know?
I just, you know, dealing with all past loved ones, you know,
you have this responsibility, but it feels even more so when
it's when it's a child. So you know and and then one
work that you. Do around grief.
How does that factor in? Well, I just, I know that a lot

(34:11):
of people like it was early on, you know, and I, I'm still
transforming through grief. It's still comes in waves and,
but learning to kind of take that grief and move through it
and transform it into something meaningful.
You know, a lot of your standardtherapies and counseling, they

(34:31):
don't really integrate spiritualism as as much as some
people need. And so I, I really enjoy, you
know, bringing that level of comfort to people who are
experiencing grief and, and alsowith the, the twin flame aspect
of it, you know, because that, that was one of my, the

(34:54):
significant loss, the final of the three in late 2023.
And that really, that really, really shook me.
And so there wasn't a whole lot out there on that, but I did
learn that for the few that I had come across and even, you
know, like Reddit threads, things like that, that some of

(35:16):
us do go on to do mediumship. And that is something that does
happen. And so, you know, I learned
early on in this process that weexperienced those losses so that
we can find ourselves, You know,and I do believe that it's part
of the bigger plan. And the twin flame doesn't
always have to be incarnated, asthat happens.

(35:38):
Right. My previous friend and roommates
and she actually experienced hertwin flame just on the ethereal
after they passed. So they never had an in person
relationship. They never had that experience
of encountering each other whilethey were alive and their whole
relationship has been on the side of spirit.
But she's gone on to write booksand to do mediumship and to

(36:00):
create programs just based on him being that catalyst for her.
This is a very common thing. Yeah.
They're like an energy booster. I know.
I had a twin flame. We encountered each other in
real life, and I'm glad that it didn't go any further.
Yeah. So it's a dumpster fire.
And you know what? At that point, for all intents

(36:21):
and purposes, so was I, So it's fine.
Yeah, well, that's common. But there was something
speakable that happened in termsof my intuition and psychic of
gifts, and they just amplified immensely just with them being
in the environment for a short period of time.
Yeah. It's wild.
It's a wild experience. Did you have any of those

(36:43):
experiences before? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Early on, years and years ago, because I was friends with him
since I was a teenager and we were the the type that, you
know, I would know when he was calling.
I would, you know, there would be so many things that dreams,
you know, if, if he was in a dream and I talked to him, he

(37:04):
had the same dream, things like that, that were just kind of led
you to, to say, what is this? You know, and I do believe that
a lot of that was, you know, thelittle bread crumbs along the
way that we're kind of trying towake me up.
But it wasn't until his passing that there was kind of that soul
shock and that that merging of, you know, our our souls.

(37:25):
And that really, really amplified things.
Yeah. Because I I really went through
a deep soul shock with that. Haven't had that experience yet.
Can you elaborate that on that more?
Well, it's, it's just kind of like that.
It's kind of the way that I've described it is kind of losing
the, or what it felt like at thetime, you know, lost, losing the

(37:48):
other, the other half of your soul.
And even though, you know, we would go periods of time without
talking or anything, there was always this underlying
unconditional love. And, and I've, I've experienced
a lot of loss, you know, grandparents, parents, friends,
uncles, you name it. I have a lot of, lot of people

(38:10):
on the spirit side. But this loss was so much
greater, I guess, in, in terms of pain, you know, that it
really sent me down, down a darkpath for no apparent reason.
You know, even my current husband, you know, he's very
understanding. But I really had to explain this

(38:31):
to him, like, why this really shook me the way that it did.
And it wasn't really until I learned because I kind of knew
he was my twin flame. But when I had looked into it
years ago, it was so romanticized that I thought I
kind of, yeah. You know, cringy.
I get some of that, and it's cringy.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, it's cringy and I think a lot of people.

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Here's my gripe about Twin Flames and why we don't talk
about it more here. Yeah, with the many guests I've
had. And it's because it is so
romanticized. And the problem that I have with
it is that people are so quick to give up to their own power,
their own inner authority, and their own ability to make
choices and take action on them and let bugs make sure.

(39:15):
No, don't go into. Disempowerment.
I'm not saying that you did. I just know that happens for a
lot. And when you research it, that's
the stuff you find. And it's like, oh hell, no
choices. You're making choices.
The whole I could have made a choice any any given moment.
Right, right. No, no, we have to take
accountability. So that's a big.
Part of it. Yeah.

(39:36):
And they're on a deeper level. They're mirroring, you know, us,
They they are a part of us. It is our soul.
And so and there's, you know, different types of twins, twin
flames, if you get into all of that.
But there's, there's a reason and we have a plan and we come
to this earth with a plan, with a purpose.
You know, mine took took an exit.

(39:59):
And I know that with that, we must have agreed on this path
together, because he comes through a lot, you know, and and
he is, you know, omnipresent. He's he's always with me.
I feel that I know that. But again, regular twin flame
stuff and even looking into it after the fact, it, it was so

(40:19):
hard to get to the bottom of it.And and now it like you, it
really bothers me a lot. A lot of the things that are out
there about that because you know, it can be the same as a
soulmate, but it's not necessarily.
No, because I would say my husband now is absolutely my
soulmate. Yeah, intensive purposes.
We're happy little peas in a podover here.

(40:40):
But that was an entirely different experience in terms of
the energy that was occurring between us.
Like I had never, I experienced more telepathy or more empathy
than I did when we were in each other's vicinity and I could
feel them if they were about a block away.
It was intense. And then the communication
happening in dreams was something else.

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I love my spouse. My spouse is amazing.
And we don't have that kind of an energetic situation.
And thank God because I think that would be a lot to live
with. I don't think we're meant to to
do that in that way, but I'm wondering if after that
transition, if you then found you had a greater capacity for
compassion, for peace, for more nurturing and softness.

(41:25):
Yeah, I really do. I believe that that helped.
I mean, I felt like I took on all of the good parts of him
and, you know, that that was kind of absorbed and I have
found some some research that really supports that.
So, you know, that's comforting to know.
But some people they don't know.And actually one of the readings
I did a while back, I brought through this, this lady's, you

(41:51):
know, this gentleman and, and itended up being her, her twin
flame. And it wasn't until I compared
it to, because I hadn't felt anything else like that.
And I thought so I, so I broughtit up, you know, and she's like,
she said, I wondered, she said he passed, you know, had been
like 20 or 30 years ago. She said, I can never stop

(42:12):
thinking about him. She said, I don't know why it's,
she said, sometimes I think I'm going crazy, but he's just
always there in the back of my mind.
And it wasn't until I really went into this and it really
opened her eyes to see that that's a thing, you know, And it
really can shake your soul. And it's it's not meant to leave
you. It's meant.
To guide you, I know what the experience is like having gone

(42:34):
through it, being spiritually open.
I can't imagine what that would be like going through it and not
hearing your guides and not having awareness of Claire
Empathy or Claire Savoyance or clear sentience.
Because for me, all of those things opened substantially.
Like I think the lever went up to 200% more.
And even before we met in person, there was a moment where

(42:59):
I could actually hear communication happening.
And I would have thought I was crazy had I not been in and open
to this stuff already. But I heard in my mind, are you
going to run that day? I was like, why would I run?
You run. I was feeling a little cocky
that day. Yeah, that was not my nature.
But typical runner chaser dynamic, yeah.
And I didn't know about that. So it just goes to show that

(43:21):
that is part of the the path sometimes that sometimes we're
just meant to be near each otherfor an energetic boost to right
catalyze some lessons to get things rolling.
And myself, love did kick off atthat moment.
Yeah, in a big way. Because it's like, yeah, had I
chosen to stay in my shadow, hadI chosen to not self develop or

(43:42):
any of those things, oh, I couldhave made a big mess.
Oh boy. Yeah, yeah.
And there's not very many peoplethat can have a long term
relationship with their twin flame because the energy is so
intense and it's just that wouldbe some mirror.
So much to live with. No thank you.
No. Yeah.
No. Right.
I like, I like my sanity. I like not hearing other

(44:02):
people's thoughts on a regular basis unless I choose.
To. We got way off track, but talk
to me more about your mediumship, about your coaching,
about what really brings it to life for you these days now that
you've post graduated from Arthur Finley.
Yeah, yeah. So I've just really been

(44:24):
enjoying talking to people about, you know, grief.
And at the same time, you know, I'm, I'm still developing
myself. I'm still learning.
I'm still, you know, getting to the bottom of who I am.
And I just, I just know that, you know, well, originally I
thought mediumship was it, you know, this, that's what I'm

(44:45):
going to do. But I wanted to take it a step
further, like I said, because ofmy own experience, I wanted to
be able to help people through the process because an an
awakening is it's almost more than you know, you can handle.
It really takes you to the edge.And you know, having someone

(45:07):
who's been through it that you can talk with very vital and,
and some people don't feel, somepeople don't feel like they can
open up with just a therapist orsomething like that.
Whereas, you know, like I said with, you know, the spiritual
aspect, that really brings it further.
And that is the time when a lot of people find themselves in

(45:27):
psychiatric holds and needing assessments because they have no
one else to open up to. And then they start questioning
their sanity when very real, very, very real things are
happening to them. And it's not schizophrenia.
Right. Absolutely, Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, there's so many things
that if I hadn't been open to spirituality, I would have.

(45:48):
Yeah. I would have had to check myself
in somewhere. You know, and sometimes people
do and they go to a therapist that isn't familiar with the
spiritual, that hasn't had thoseexperiences.
And so the person doesn't know when they're trying to do, you
know, in their best with what they've been taught for their
profession. Yeah, sometimes it doesn't give
them medication. You know, yeah.

(46:09):
Or on medication that they maybedon't even need to be when what
they're experiencing is actuallynatural, is valid, and they're
just things they need to understand.
I remember when I saw you when you came for i.e.
MTI think at that point you werestill questioning some things,
like you were still questioning clairvoyance and how the
impressions worked and came in and out.

(46:30):
And so we kind of sat and had a chat about that.
And it's like, no, this is so mundane.
You're doing it so many times a day you don't even realize
you're doing it because it's part of everyday life, because
it's natural, normal. Right.
You know, on all of those over the years, those, you know,
random impressions or things I would see in my third eye, you
know, that really started to make sense.

(46:52):
And now I know, well, I'm eitherpicking up psychically or
mediumistically. So it, it all, it all made sense
to me then. And, and most people were
capable of of that. And, you know, maybe they're not
meant to do it professionally, but they're most certainly meant
to hear their loved ones, you know, one way or another and

(47:13):
know that they're with them. So I really enjoy, you know,
helping people through that. Yeah.
How would you say when you're doing your readings, it comes
through for you the most? Are you more clairvoyant?
Is it a blend of Clare empathy or Clare cognizance?
What is it like mostly? Or how much does it vary I
should say? Yeah, yeah, clairvoyance is my

(47:35):
strongest Clare Clare cognizance, I would say next.
And sometimes Clare audience, you know, that's, that's not a
regular Clare that I've exercised.
But I take it, you know, I I getmore Clare audience for myself.
And you know, that was that was some of the earliest signs I
knew that this was, you know, which direction this was going

(47:59):
to take because it was I was hearing it And I I started I
started really paying attention to discernment and kind of my
thoughts. And one thing I like to tell
people is to kind of sit, you know, quiet alone and just have

(48:20):
some dialogue with yourself and pay attention to where these
thoughts are coming from becauseit really does matter.
You know, there's, you know, my twin flame, I can, he comes in
over here. My imagination is up here.
My, my third eye is right here. You know, it's so it's fun to
kind of play around with where it's coming in at kind of your

(48:40):
antennas and then you can kind of start to make sense of.
And then I would say animal communication is even different
still. Sometimes I catch myself and I'm
seeing things from their perspective from like through
their eyes. And then there are other times
where I'm feeling things in their body.
And so it's all different places.
But it is so important, no matter what kind of readings
we're doing, that it is really just saying it as we're

(49:03):
experiencing it. I find that has the most value
and it changes a lot. So it was not a helpful question
because after thinking about it,it's like, Amanda, you know
this, you know that it changes per spirit.
That spirit is always going to have different things that
they're stronger and better at. You say you're more clear
audient on your own and it couldjust be that you haven't read

(49:24):
for someone that has a loved onein spirit that's very vocal.
Right. I'm pretty sure that's going to
come and you're going to be like, there it is.
Yeah. That spirit's ability.
Right, right. And they tend to how do I put
this like when I saw it a lot itlike Arthur Finley and when I
practice with other mediums is they'll kind of they'll kind of

(49:45):
pick up on the strength of that medium and what kind of
depending on what they're going to bring through is like what
what your strength is. And so, yeah, absolutely.
It's just the best fiber optic connection that can happen is
the one that we go for. The connection that's got the
most juice and charge and stability is the one that

(50:07):
they'll use. Yeah.
But they are pretty resourceful.And then again, so are we.
And that's just it. It's amazing to me that there
are people who still don't know that they have this naturally,
that it's available and that, yeah, our loved ones, for the
most part, are good. They don't need anything.
They don't want anything, they just are bathed in love 24 hours

(50:29):
a day and their biggest concern at the end of the day is us when
we're feeling bad about them. Absolutely.
And that's one of the hardest things as a medium is to hear
people think that their loved ones are upset with them.
And it's like, no, that couldn'tbe further from the truth.
They support you and no matter what, anything that you could
even ever want for yourself, they're they're your

(50:51):
cheerleader. They want that for you.
Anything you want, they want. And there's no resentment,
there's No Fear, there's nothingthat on the other side.
So I just, it hurts my heart sometimes when people are so
fearful or, you know, think thatthere is some tension there,
There isn't more. Often than not, that's ego,
that's self-imposed. That's the ways that you know,

(51:13):
they're blaming themselves and wishing that they had done
differently. My hair is dragging me today.
But it's always our own stuff. It's very rarely I've not had.
OK, that's not entirely fair. I've had one or two readings
where Spirit was not angry. But it's like, man, yeah, you
kind of did that, didn't you? Yeah.

(51:35):
Yeah. But there was like a Brigadier
resentment. It's just like, yeah, you, you
kind of went there. You did.
Yeah. Yeah.
But it's not in a harsh way. And it's not.
There's no residual anger. There's no none of that.
I've had that experience with Source and I think I told you
about it when my ferret had passed.
And then I had the realization of this is where we come from.

(51:56):
This is where we go back to. And even though consciously I
knew she had died and that I should be sad, emotionally I
couldn't get there because I wanted for nothing.
All of my needs were met. And there is just this palpable
love energy. And it's like if we each felt
that once as standard human beings, if it was standard issue

(52:19):
and everybody went through that,the world would be vastly
different. We just know we belong to each
other. Right.
Yeah, pet loss is so significant.
I think, you know, people don't give it enough credit for as,
you know, as as rough as that can be.
So it really helps to know that that there's more to this if you
don't. I mean, it's just such a

(52:40):
tremendous loss because it's that unconditional love.
You just there's no replacing itand to believe that it just dies
and it breaks my heart. And that's the connection that
we have every day. It's not like mom or dad, once
you leave home, you don't resume.
You know that proximity, that closeness.
Where is your fur friends? They're there everywhere.

(53:03):
I can't go. I can't do anything in this
house without 5 little pairs of eyes watching what I'm doing.
And that's because the ferrets are in a separate cage, and they
can't follow. Yeah.
And so it is, it is really profound.
And I think a lot of people don't understand the level of
grief that does happen. And so when you're doing your
mediumship work, you're willing to read people who have lost

(53:26):
their loved ones, but also theirpets.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, sometimes they just they
show up. I don't even have to try.
I haven't went, I haven't kind of trained myself in any
capacity to be necessarily a petmedium.
But they, they make their appearances and, and I love that
because sometimes, you know, people, it might not be in the

(53:47):
forefront of their mind. They're, they're waiting to hear
from grandma, mom, dad, and thengrandma, mom or dad brings
through, you know, their, their dog.
And it's like that. That's what they needed to hear,
actually. And it's different energy
because they come through unapologetic.
They're nothing but excitement and love.

(54:08):
And you know, sometimes loved ones in spirit, especially if
they passed and they had guilt or shame about the way they
treated you, some of them can bekind of sheepish coming in and
not be so ready. Didn't upfront to talk.
But pets aren't like that at all.
They come through and it's this big rush of happy childhood
energy and for a medium that just hits US and we're like, oh

(54:29):
wow, they're, they're cutting the line.
Here it is, a lovely energy, it is.
OK. And so when people book with you
for reading, what is that process like?
Well, they're able to do so on my website at
itsguidedlights.net. And yeah, so I ioffer many
different types of readings, grief counseling, twin flame,

(54:53):
even soulmate, you know, any profound loss really.
I'd love to to help you through it.
And so yeah, Ioffer all of that on my website.
That is fantastic that you're out there doing this work just
as a fellow light worker. It always lights me up and
brings me joy. Just that you were able to do

(55:13):
all the things that you wanted to do and you set out to.
It just makes me smile every single day knowing that you're
now out there doing this work and helping other people find
their way, find their comfort and their healing.
Thank you. Yes, yes.
And you've been a part of that for me and you helped heal me.
And yeah, so I appreciate you aswell.

(55:35):
I'm not responsible for what clients choose to do or choose
not to do. You came.
You came to do the work. And that's, you know, that's the
best way. Yeah.
And it's the same for when people come and see you and
they're working through that grief or they're wanting to
connect with their loved ones. It takes a certain level of
openness to come for a reading. If you're coming for a reading
and you're booking a reading andyou're wanting so and so to be

(55:56):
the first through the gate and you have all these conditions
and constraints, you're strangling the energy out of the
reading, right? Just stay home at that point.
Just not. Right, absolutely.
You've got to be open minded or you're really doing yourself a
disservice. What do you recommend when
people come and see you to get the most out of their readings
and time with you? Well, just that openness, you

(56:18):
know, no expectations, no keywords, you know, because
you're just going to be disappointed and just be open so
that your loved ones know, you know, they, they can tell if
there's a resistance there. And really it's all about just
proving, you know, that that life continues.
So just not having any expectations and willingness to

(56:40):
just be open. Do you require them to believe
in the process? No, I don't.
Just openness, you know, Curiosity, you know, goes goes a
long way. If you're curious, give it a
shot. You know what's the worst that
could happen? Absolutely.
And any other experiences that you'd like to share today?

(57:01):
Nothing that comes to mind. I I don't think just, yeah, I
just, I just know that that thisis, this is what I want to do
and I'm just getting started, you know?
Yeah, that's that's it. I, I haven't offered, I haven't
done any in person readings, butthere is the option, you know,

(57:22):
if that is something that someone wants, it can be
arranged, you know, just know that there's options.
If you resonate with me, just give it a shot.
Yeah. And also that it works.
It doesn't have to be in person.It works just as well, virtually

(57:43):
absolutely. Yeah.
It could be a Facebook chat message is what I've learned.
I know. Require yeah or face.
Right. Some mediums do just e-mail
versions. I I don't know how that would
would. I did.
I did for a long, long time. One of the practices that one of

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my teachers taught me was a letter from a loved one.
And essentially what I would do is my clients would find me
usually through referral becauseI didn't even really put it out
there that I was offering this. And like I said, I did that one
emotion code reading. And then intuition was wide
open. I had extra information.
And she turned around and said, I want to book a mediumship
reading. And I was like, oh, OK.

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And off we went. And from there, referral after
referral came. And so I wasn't necessarily
ready to step into that work in the way that it was ready to
move through me. Those things are not always
paired at exactly the same place, right?
And so most of my people would contact me via e-mail and I
wouldn't have any knowledge or insight about them.
All I would know was maybe theirname and their e-mail and then

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the series of questions that they wanted to ask.
And so I did it in a way that was really kind of what they
call a blind reading. And I preferred that because I
couldn't get in my own way. And I also wasn't going to be
swayed by anything. And that way I knew the
impressions I was getting were purely what I was getting.
I'm sorry. I would sit and meditate for
about, you know, 10-15 minutes, get into the right vibration.

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It took me a lot longer back then.
Yeah. And I would sit and I would
first write out all of the impressions that I had about
their loved one, about their life, about their relationship.
Sometimes it would answer some of the questions that they'd
asked, sometimes it wouldn't. And then from there, I would
take a break, go do something else, have a bath.
That's my solution to everythingin life.

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Have a bath with Epsom salts. Again, just raising vibration,
getting me into the right state.And then I would actually allow
their loved one to channel through me and write to their
loved one. So it was ate a letter from
their loved one in spirit, whichis incredibly vulnerable and
uncomfortable of a way to do a mediumship reading.
But I'm glad I did it that way because it really developed me.

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I like that. And again, it was kind of Tyler
Henry style. Don't have to know.
You don't have to know anything about you.
And here's what I'm getting, andhere's what I've got, and here's
what they say. Yeah, we, we actually did some
practicing at Arthur Finley withthat.
Did you? Yeah.
That was one of one of our practice things that we did.
So yeah, I could, I could see where that would be valuable and

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how and why someone would want that.
It was at times. And then there were other times
where I got in my own way because it's a huge amount of
pressure. And so people would be
responding back and the feedbackwas overwhelmingly positive and
shocking. And sometimes it, it scared me a
little. It made me uncomfortable and how
accurate that was. And I really didn't want that

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life or to be known for that specifically.
So for me, it was like, I'd prefer not to.
Yeah. And then I could see that some
people were kind of getting really addicted to the process,
and they really wanted to rely on me.
And it's like, no, I'd really rather you become empowered.
Right. Through knowing you could
connect to your loved 1. So that's when I kind of stepped
away from that and went in a different direction.

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But yeah, it is entirely possible.
And so readings, they don't haveto happen face to face.
They don't have to happen over the phone.
It really depends on the medium.I know some mediums who have to
hear their sitter's voice because of that's how they
connect best and they use that energy to connect.
I know some readers who have to hold the hand of their sitter

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because they need that kinesthetic touch to connect.
I think it just depends on the abilities.
Yeah, I suspect that that might be that way for me.
I feel like seeing and hearing them is where I really get the
connection, but I wouldn't know until I gave it a shot.
Yeah, and I hate to affirm this out loud, but I'm trying to stop

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affirming this out loud. One thing I've had a hard chime
with is names. Names do not always come through
clear for me. And what I did learn is if the
sitter tells me the name of the person they're trying to connect
with, I can actually use that energetic signature and follow
that all the way through to the person and get more information
that way. So it's good, I think if you're

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going to go for a reading to askthe reader, hey, how do you
connect best? They'll tell you.
They'll know. Right.
Absolutely, yeah. And then I think you kind of
nailed it with the open mind. No expectations.
Yeah, just be present. You don't have to agree with
everything. You don't have to bobblehead.
You don't have to give anything away at all if you don't want

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to. Right.
Yeah, less is more. Energy, yes, less is definitely
more. Yeah.
I usually tell people I don't doreadings anymore, but when I
did, I would usually say, hey, hold the stories for later.
Just a yes, no, maybe on things and then you can tell me
afterwards, but let me get it all the way out.

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Yeah, yeah. I don't want to know anything,
you know, and even even feedback, you know, it's kind of
like, OK, wait, give me, let me,let me get going here and then
you can let me know. But absolutely, it just really
gets in the way. Except the end of the day, we're
still human. And of course, we want, you
know, the sitter, the person who's receiving the reading, to
have the best possible connection and experience.

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We have hearts, you know, right?So if you share something with
me, of course I want the best outcome and it will cloud my
judgment 100%. Right, right.
OK. So you're working with readings,
you're doing coaching and you'redoing animal communication.
Anything on the horizons? Not much I'm going to be looking
into working at some metaphysical fairs this spring

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and just kind of getting out there and and doing as much as I
can hoping possibly going back to Arthur Finley this coming
year. Not sure if that's going to
happen yet, but that would that would be ideal.
I definitely, I definitely, theywill be going eventually again
because it's, it's just wonderful, you know, and in
England, why wouldn't I want to go?

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Would you repeat the same trainings or are there different
levels that you would then pursue or different things?
I would probably go to a level up.
The one that I did was pure mediumship evidential and they
have it on more of a professional level in higher,
you know, So yeah. Yeah, but what a journey from
grief, bereavement, law, spiritual awakening straight

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through to stepping into your empowerment and now being a
resource for others. Yeah, it's been quite the
journey and it's only been two years that I really set out and,
and started thinking about this.So I, I look forward to
continuing and seeing where elseit leads because there, there's
so much to explore. There really, really is.

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And even with hypnotherapy, it's, that's one of the things
that really interests me, being able to bring through messages
that way too. You know, a lot of the great
mediums did that and it's very fascinating to me.
So it's. I mean at their.
Case table, yeah. That was Edgar Cayce's MO with

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self hypnosis. Absolutely.
Then because of that connection with mediumship and
hypnotherapy, I do it an entirely different way.
So as I said, I don't do readings anymore, and that's
because I would much rather justput people in trance and have
them have their own experience. And it's just so much more
profound that way. Not to say that reading isn't a

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reading is wonderful, particularly if you can't get
into a space of openness or vibration.
You might need to get a few mediumship readings before you
come see someone like me. Because I'm going to need you to
be past that grief. I'm going to need you to be a
little further along to be able to open that door at that level.
So readings are profound and important.

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It's just very, very different. I find a different layer of
catharsis that can happen. I believe that, yeah,
definitely. I would have to be more open,
yeah. Yeah, and it does.
Hypnosis is beautiful, but it does take a different level of
vibration and presence and openness.
I think so, yeah. That's why the two still really

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work well together. Yeah.
Yeah, so there's so much to explore.
I've only just. Only just.
Yeah, well, thank you so much for being a guest today.
In the next little while, I willdo my best to update the show
notes. And if someone is looking for
you, guidedlights.net is the best way to get hold of you.

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Yes, that's right. All right, all right, soulful
seekers, if you're wanting to explore a mediumship, reading,
animal communication, or you're working through some grief,
you've just had a chance to get to know Jen, reach out, have a
conversation with her and see ifyou would be compatible to work
on your journey together. Otherwise, stay happy, stay
healthy, stay well, but most of all, stay inspired.

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Bye for now.