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Welcometo the Sound In Marketing Podcast.
I'm your host,Jeanna Isham, owner and founder
of Dreamr Productionsand Sound in Marketing Learning.
I create, consult and educate
individuals and brandson the power of sound in marketing.
The Sound In Marketing Podcast existsas a resource for those wanting to up
their marketing game exponentially,by simply thinking a little differently.
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My real heart is focusing on my fellowsmall to medium sized businesses,
and the potential sound strategyhas for their brand marketing.
Sound can give that extra boostneeded to effectively compete
with bigger business competitors,
especially within the newnessof sensorial marketing.
Everyone will figure this out eventually.
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Hopefully this podcast helpsyou get ahead of the crowd.
If the content in these episodesinspire ideas for your company,
don't hesitate to give me a call.
Dreamr Productionshelps brands make sound on purpose.
We'd love to help you too.
Now on to the show.
In this episode, we'll be talking aboutsound in the shopping experience.
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Have you ever noticed the musicwhile you were shopping?
Any kind of shopping?
Just think about it.
What music was or wasn't playing?
How did it make you feel?
Or if you didn't realize it in the moment?
How does it make you feel now?
What we listen to while shopping mattersand it affects our experience.
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Whether you have ever been aware of itor not.
Music matters.
For example,when you are at an Italian restaurant,
you expect to hear Italian music.
Is it because Italian food
can only exist paired with Italian music?
Of course not.
Hearing Italian musicwith Italian food just feels right.
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It creates a more sincere connectionto what you are doing at that moment.
Eating Italian food.
What about at the grocery store?
In 1982, RonaldE Milliman did a study on the effect
of background music on the behaviorof shoppers in supermarkets.
The result? When music was slowed down,
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people moved slower
and higher sales were reported.
When the music sped up.
People moved faster and sales decreased.
What about a mall?
Step back into the 90sor even pre 2020 for just a second.
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And remember thatthat used to be the place to hang out.
There were always a ton of peopleloitering around
and tons of thingshappening simultaneously.
However,other than buying a pretzel at Wetzel's
Pretzels or an Orange Julius man,I miss those.
There wasn't a lot of buying happening,
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but there was a lot of sound.
It was loudand it was chaotic and distracting.
The cacophony of it alladded to the overwhelming nature of a big
shopping mall.
What little money I might havehad at that time.
Babysitting moneydidn't stretch terribly far.
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Needed to be strategically spentto stretch as far as it could.
It was hard to decidewith all the choices, what was the right
spend to spend.
I would either window
shop the whole time or leavewith a few pennies left in my pocket.
The noise only confused me,as it was as scattered as the plethora
of goods being served.
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What if retailers
had realizedwhat some businesses are realizing now,
that being more mindful of the musicthey played and the sounds they made in
their shops could better determinehow much revenue
they could make that day or weekor month or year.
I decided to get an opinion on thisfrom the Financial District.
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My name is Matt Houghton.
I'm the director of digital and integratedmarketing for Interac Corporation.
Interac partneredwith the sonic branding agency Sixième Son
to explore how soundcould make a difference in spending.
I'm Val Fleur.
I'm the managing directorand head of strategy for Sixième Canada.
Basically, what we do at Sixième iswe develop sonic ecosystem for brands
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to ensure that through sound and musicand through voice,
we can build their attributionawareness and create more impact.
This was no ordinary pairing.
Although Interac is about making money.
Their overarching missionhas a bit more heart to it.
Interac’s
Mission is to create value exchangeamong Canadians.
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Interac came to life through the leadingCanadian financial institutions
to offer universal solutionfor debit payment products.
We touched the lives of pretty muchevery Canadian on an almost daily basis.
They're using Interac for debit,or if they're sending money
through E-transfer, they're using Interac.
They most recently used music
to do a very counterintuitiveand counter-cultural thing.
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Matt, along with his team,partnered with Sixième Son to create a
curated music playlist to be more mindfulwhile they were spending.
Our brand platform is about
when you're in control of your money,you get more out of life.
I remember when you came upand said, can you create a track
that would allow
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people to spend more mindfully?
We thought the challenge was super, super
interestingand also doing studies over the years.
It was a good way for us to goback and say, hey, what are the factors
music wise,that are affecting our purchase behaviors?
We started to collect those studiesand build our own roadmap
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to start composing thisthis sound shopping track.
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We have worked previously(music playing)
with the team at Sixième Sonto create a sonic identity for our brand,
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and through that relationship,I think it's just exposed us as a team
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and enlightened us moreabout the role of sound
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and the role of music,and what that can mean for a brand.
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The music you hear in stores(music playing)
is scientifically created to makeyou spend money.
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Our payment products and servicesare based on using your own money.
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It's debits and e-transfer.(music playing)
It's not about credit.(music playing)
It's about the feeling of confidencethat you get
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from that empowerment of being in control.(music playing)
And it might seem really odd for a companythat makes its money
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when people pay for thingsthat we would have that message,
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but it really comes from a genuine place,(music playing)
and that's reallywhere the idea came from.
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Wanting to helppeople be mindful of how they spend
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and how they shop,and then starting to understand
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that these shopping experiences are oftenjust the opposite of that.
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Music that's engineeredto make you be impulsive.
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Being(music playing)
mindful of our spending is not somethingwe're really taught.
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Phrases I'm familiar with are‘you deserve this’, and ‘do what feels good’.
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Neither of these are really helpfulwhen you are on a budget,
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which is or should be all of usall the time.
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What Interac and Sixième Soncreated was a loopable track
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that the user listenedto through headphones as they shopped.
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The intention was to slow them down(music playing)
and be more mindfuland aware of what they were doing.
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We commissioned some studies with itso that we could really feel confident
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that this was tangible,and it was having an effect on people.
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We did a test groupwhere people were listening to the track
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that Val and the team made for us, versuslistening to type of music
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you would hear in the store,and the results were extraordinary.
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98% of peoplefelt good about their purchases.
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They were reporting they were three timesmore likely to feel calm
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while they shopped,when they listened to it.
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People were showing real interestin wanting these kind of tools.
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Shoppers that were aged between 25 to 34(music playing)
spend 38% lesswhile listening to the track.
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To me, that's quite striking.(music playing)
I mean, they felt calm(music playing)
because when you listen to the track, it'scalmer, it's not super upbeat.
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It's a great contrastto those popular tracks,
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with most of the time haveactually a negative effect on people.
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It felt good doing thisproject and, you know, making something
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that we genuinely thought could reallyhelp people if they took advantage of it.
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So that's what was really interestingwas the stability.
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I think that it gave people the sort ofthe general calm and peace of mind.
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It gave them to just make the decisionsthat were right for them.
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Our world is fast.(music playing)
It's important to slow down and be awareof what we are doing once in a while.
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In order to ensure that we are actuallyliving the life worth living.
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I think anyone in marketing(music playing)
for sure recognizesauthenticity is job one.
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There's so many examples of how to do thatwrong a lot recently,
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and I think especiallywhen you start to intersect with values
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and what your brand may stand forand what you represent.
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And there's some real cautionary tales inthe world of marketing and large brands.
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Personally,any brand that helps me to be mindful
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of my money wins my business every time.(music playing)
And you better believe I'll stickwith them as they stuck with me.
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Whenever a brand genuinely cares.(music playing)
They are setting themselves apartin a very good way.
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Payments are transactionand there's such a coldness to that.
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We really feelthat there has to be more to it than that.
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Better business is not just about ‘buymy stuff’.
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It's about serving the consumerand the community with what
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they actually need, rather than whatyou want them to need.
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In the long run.(music playing)
This service drives better long termsales.
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It's a bit of an ethos ofwith the best light
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you can afford,and I really personally aligned with that.
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Life is rich with experiencesand meaningful interactions
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and being in service to othersand really living a life of value.
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I feel like that's what we're missingsometime in this society in general.
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We are striving for more efficiencyand more speed
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and everything to be super seamless.(music playing)
But we also know thatwhen you spend wisely,
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when you spend meaningfully,there's a real payoff to that.
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And it helpsyou feel good and feel confident.
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And you know the role of musicin that equation.
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It's really cool.(music playing)
And it wasn't for us just about, hey,let's make this crazy song with Sixième Son.
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Although I will say, as a marketer,it's like been by far
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the most unique project I've worked on.(music playing)
Sound matters. In one study,just lowering the volume
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of the music in grocery stores increasedthe feeling of relaxation in shoppers
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and resulted in an increaseof healthier food purchases.
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The higher the volume of the music,the higher the customer's excitement
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and agitation grew.(music playing)
This resulted in moreunhealthy food purchases.
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If shoppers are swayed by healthyand unhealthy choices, couldn't
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they also be swayed into making goodand bad purchasing decisions in general?
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Genuinely being active and investedin the category of financial literacy
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and financial confidence,I think that's important.
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So we're making that connectionfor people with sound shopping.
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The track is a great example of that.(music playing)
Authenticity comes in all forms.(music playing)
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Authentic sound is just a partof the bigger puzzle of sincere marketing.
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Another real factorin creating that purposeful
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sound for your companyis that marketing is changing.
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The world is changing.(music playing)
Our world is very, very saturated visually.(music playing)
It's important to start engagingin different ways with our audiences.
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I’m bummed to see CEO’s who(music playing)
don't understand the power of soundand the power of that emotional engagement
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that I think brands(music playing)
need to create a different aspirationand different relationship.
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We need to find different waysto engage and talk
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and feel understoodand clearly understood.
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And it goes back to proof points.(music playing)
It's something to say what you want to door what you stand for,
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but it's better to give your clientsreal tools
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that would allow themto experience the brand for real.
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And typically, the sound shoppingtrack is exactly as you know.
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This is who I am.This is my brand positioning.
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I want you to feel in control.(music playing)
But now here is a track that was tailormade for you
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to actually live our brand platform.(music playing)
And that's again, very unique.(music playing)
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The world of marketing is biggernow than it was 30 and 40 years ago.
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The platforms available to us(music playing)
and the means of communication outthere is staggering.
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Now is the time to find new waysto relate and connect to our consumers.
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I think everyone understandsthe visual elements of a brand,
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the tonal elements of what you sayand how you sound,
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and the consistency of language and words,but the whole layer of sound
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and sonic on top ofthat is so meaningful for
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how you resonate, how you're familiar,what you mean to an audience.
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It's just been such a cooland enlightening experience
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working with the team at Sixième Son to do this,and then extend that into a project
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like Sound Shopping.We have the perfect partner.
Thank you to my
guests, Matt Houghton of Interacand Val Fleur of Sixième Son
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for their great insights on the worldof sound in the shopping experience.
Also, thank youfor sharing your lovely music track
that we've been enjoying in the backgroundthroughout this episode.
Special thanks also to ArtListfor the sound effects and music examples.
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More people should know about this stuff.
I know you know that now.
Want to exploreyour sound strategy further?
I would love to help.
Send me an email at Jeanna@DreamrProductions.com, and we can continue this
off platform. For further resources,learning and content.
Check out Sound In MarketingLearning for your one stop sound shop.
All links will be provided in the show.
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Notes.
Let's make this world of sound more intriguing, more unique, and more
and more on brand.