September 2, 2025 • 19 mins
Academy Award®–nominated and Emmy-winning filmmaker Connie Field joins The Sounds of Film to discuss her urgent new documentary Democracy Noir. The film examines how Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orbán systematically dismantled democratic institutions while maintaining power through popular support, nationalist rhetoric, and constitutional manipulation.
Field highlights the stories of three women—a politician, a journalist, and a nurse—who risk everything to expose corruption and resist authoritarian rule. Democracy Noir has already made a global impact, earning nominations and awards at leading festivals.
With unflinching detail, the film shows how Orbán’s playbook of consolidating power, controlling the media, and stoking nationalist sentiment has become a model for rising movements worldwide. The documentary not only sheds light on Hungary’s struggles but also reflects urgent parallels with political developments in the United States and beyond.
In this conversation, Connie Field shares the challenges of documenting resistance, the importance of amplifying women’s voices in the fight for democracy, and the lessons global audiences can learn from Hungary’s political transformation. More than a cautionary tale, Democracy Noir is a rallying call to defend democratic values wherever they are under threat.
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(00:00):
Hi, this is Tom Needham and you are listening to the sounds of
film. And today we welcome Academy
Award nominated an Emmy winning filmmaker, Connie Field, whose
latest documentary Democracy andWar, investigates the rise of
authoritarianism in Hungary under Viktor Orban.
(00:21):
The film, which has been honoredat leading festivals worldwide,
follows 3 fearless women as theyrisk everything to expose
corruption and defend democracy.Field brings her unparalleled
history of documenting social justice struggles to the screen
for this important film. I want to thank very much the
(00:41):
great Connie Field for joining us on The Sounds of Film.
Thank you Tom for having me. Yeah, of course.
So tell me a little bit about why you wanted to make this film
in the first place. Well, the reason I made the film
is, is really because my husbandis Hungarian and we've been
going back to Hungary almost every year since 1990.
(01:03):
So we've been watching everything a full, you know,
sort of unfold in real time through the eyes of lots of our
friends who were there and just being there ourselves,
ourselves. And I actually started filming
in 2014 when we were visiting. And we were in a park that has
Ronald Reagan on one one side ofit.
(01:25):
And on the other side of it werethese four empty pillars
surrounded by police. And they were all these
demonstrators. So I was curious about what was
going on, so I started filming and asking questions and found
out that what this was all aboutis that Orban was creating a
statue which was rewriting history.
(01:48):
And the history he was rewritingwas how Hungary had suffered
under Germany during World War 2, as opposed to being allies,
which they were, and as opposed to the Hungarians being the ones
who rounded up their Jews and helped had sent them straight to
Auschwitz. And so people were protesting
(02:11):
that false history. They actually stopped that
statue for being made for six months and they created sort of
a counter display in front of itthat exists to this day.
So everybody who walks into Liberty Square will see the
statue and the counter display right in front of it.
(02:33):
That is giving the real history of what happened there in in
World War 2. And that's where I met Nico
Antal and we became very good friends, Facebook friends.
And I saw I was following her life during all these these
years. But this is what really started
it and both of us were very aware at that time how serious
(02:58):
it was in terms of where Orban was leading that society and
that it was a real danger. Why do you think Orban's rise is
particularly relevant to audiences outside of Hungary?
Well, it's definitely relative. It's definitely connected to
(03:20):
what's happened to happening to us here in America right now.
Unfortunately, most people see it as a mirror of everything
that's going on here. Trump and company really follow
Orban's playbook. You can clearly see what the
playbook is in the film. Europe certainly knows this is a
(03:41):
big, it's been a big danger in Europe.
There's a real rise to the right.
The EU has been trying to fight Orban for years, sometimes
successfully, sometimes not successfully.
And the film has been all over Europe, and it's also been
broadcast all over Europe in in dozens and dozens of countries.
(04:04):
And now we're just bringing it first to the United States,
where it's opening in theaters here.
I recently watched Apbs documentary that featured Steve
Bannon and a a bunch of other characters that he works with
and he actually liked the PBS documentary, but he gets into
his strategy that he has used tosupport Trump.
(04:28):
And as I was watching your movieit it made me think of that
documentary a little bit. Both films really get into the
strategy of different leaders. Can you tell me about some of
the things that you learned you you said that Trump copies or
Bond? Like what are some of those
things that you noticed are being copied?
Well, it's down to a tee. I mean, it's creating enemies.
(04:51):
You create enemies, so thereforeyou can then save your society
from those enemies. That's exactly what Trump is
doing in terms of immigration inthis country.
Orban did the same thing with immigration in his country.
So everything's a boogeyman now.They're trying to make Steve
(05:13):
Miller's, trying to make the Democratic Party into the
boogeyman. Orban made George Soros into the
boogeyman. Orban made the EU into the
boogeyman, etcetera, etcetera. I mean, it's, it's, it's really
a complete playbook by playbook move between Orban and Trump.
(05:33):
I don't know as much about what's going on over there as as
here. Just to play devil's advocate
just for the sake of it, I, I think like what Bannon would
say. I don't know if this is what or,
or Bannon says as well that prior to Orban or Trump coming
in that a lot of the things thatare upsetting people today were
(05:57):
being done to conservatives. I'm not saying that that's right
or wrong, but they would say that the that the media by
majority was basically in favor of the Democratic Party.
If you look at like the the mainstream networks, the Times,
CNNMSNBC, the intelligence agencies, a lot of different
(06:19):
organizations around nonprofits,colleges, what what does one say
to that kind of criticism that no one likes government taking
control of these things, But there's always been tilt to one
side or the other depending on who was in power at different
times. Well, you know, certainly
(06:39):
whoever is in power basically, you know, has has their
perspective on what what they want to do with society.
I mean, and there's very different, you know, visions
between the Democratic Party andbetween now the Republican
(07:00):
Party. It's never the party.
Republican Party is nothing likeit was 15 years ago.
As you know, it's become something completely
differently. I don't think the media was, it
was ever biased in the way that Bannon likes to portray it.
And in fact, I often got very frustrated listening to NPR
(07:21):
because instead of being reporters, they seemed like
interviewers. They interview the right and
they'd interview, you know, the left.
That's what they did. And let each speak.
They wouldn't be a reporter thenthat told you what the real
facts were. So I'm, I've spent my life being
frustrated with NPR, OK. The ones that they criticized
(07:41):
for not being balanced. And I don't think any of that's
true at all. And what happened in our country
really is, is our entire information system has been
bifurcated. OK.
You have a population over here who gets this information, and
you've got a population over there that listens to a
completely different information.
(08:03):
I mean, it's like the woman who is Orban's spokesperson and is
not Orban Trump's spokesperson in the first election, Conway,
you know, Oh, there are alternative facts.
That's what she said. There are not alternative facts
in the world. They're facts.
But but we basically exist in a world where people are getting
(08:26):
completely different information.
And why does the majority in certain countries now seem to
tip towards Trump or or ban? And your reason and your
reasoning? The majority where?
Why are they voting for for suchpeople?
You mean why did people vote forOrban or why did people vote for
(08:50):
Trump? Yeah.
OK. People voted for Orban and not
largely because in the administration before there was
a good deal of corruption and the administration before Orban
was had the when the world completely economically imploded
(09:12):
in 2008, they were the people inpower, OK, So they got blamed
for that, all right. So people looked at Orban as as
a savior to that and he came in power at A at a time that was
economically much better. He actually has done a couple of
very good things for his society.
(09:33):
He's created family programs that has been very helpful to
the middle class in Hungary. He's made it so it's based on
your salary so that very poor people don't get any family
benefits. So he's certainly not giving
them to the Gypsies in Hungary, who are really the only mostly
(09:55):
the only population, Hungary that's not white.
They're not like the United States at all.
And plus, Hungary had a lot of European money that was given to
it that where Orban built some things in the countryside that
people appreciated. All that money came from the EU
and he turns the EU into a boogie man.
(10:16):
And also he controls all of the media in the country that they
only hear what Orban wants them to hear.
They, the opposition has no voice for themselves in the
countryside. In Hungary he owns all the
newspapers, his people, all the most of the television, The only
(10:41):
news that is not that way, it resides on the Internet and it's
mostly heard by people in Budapest, and that's why people
vote for him. People also vote for Orban
because in the small towns many people work for the
municipalities that are controlled by Orban's party and
if they don't vote for his partythey will lose their jobs.
(11:06):
OK. OK, there's a lot of reasons why
people are voting for him that aren't necessarily good reasons.
Yeah, and you go into that in the in the movie and you do that
through the voices of 3 distinctwomen.
Tell me about how you chose these people and why it was
important to tell the story fromthis point of view.
(11:27):
Well, I wanted Hungarians to tell the story.
I didn't want to be the one telling the story.
It has to come from them. I chose the three women Nikko I
met in 2014. OK, so I've always followed her
and been close to her and her family situation was very
interesting because her mother is very pro orban her.
(11:49):
Her mother's her stepfather tried to get her involved in a
very right wing neo Nazi party which Nico rebelled against.
So I thought her situation was really very interesting.
Plus, she's a a working woman and a nurse who's working in the
public hospitals, so she could, you know, reveal a lot of what
(12:12):
went on there. Timia, I wanted someone who was
involved in politics and she wasso feisty and so articulate.
You know, she was great to to work with and formed a great
perspective on what was going on.
And then I knew I also needed a journalist.
(12:33):
I needed that perspective and Bad Bat was, you know, has been
a awarded journalist. She's been working for a long
time in journalist. She has an incredible history of
of, you know, the places where she was working, it would be
taken over by Orban. She had to go somewhere else
that would get taken over by Orban.
(12:54):
Finally, she's ended up working for a news organization that's
on the Internet in in Budapest. And those were the three women
who tell us the story about what's happening there.
And it's an incredible story. There was one part of the film
tell me exactly who it was. One of the women was accused
(13:17):
because of her association with Harvard and Afghanistan of being
somehow like an intelligence person and that and that was
used to try and defame her. Which person was that again and
and what was the outcome of that?
That's Timmy O Sabo and she's she's in Parliament.
She's an MP in Parliament. Yes, they accused her of being
(13:40):
ACIA agent because of that and tried to to drum her out, tried
to let her lose her election. They also accused her of taking
cocaine money from Portugal or somebody.
It was really incredible. They just threw everything at
her, but yet she won her election.
Wow, that's incredible. Era in in in Buddha an area in
(14:02):
Budapest and she won the election even over all that
propaganda against her. What has been the outcome for
them since your film has come out, if any?
You mean has it affected them? Yes.
Well, I, I hadn't shown it in Hungary yet.
(14:23):
And, you know, I was, I will do that later.
So it's, you know, it's the, theOrban people know about the film
because they confronted Timia ata reception.
I think it was actually at the US embassy in Budapest.
(14:44):
They quoted from the film. Somehow they've all gotten to
see it. I don't really know how you
know, but it's it's, you know, Orban isn't at the stage where
he is going to arrest people, where he is gonna, you know, try
to, you know, he has so much control that he is not really
(15:07):
threatened. Now he is being threatened by a
new party that is out polling him.
So we will see what happens thisyear.
These hit the elections of 2026 will be instrumental in Hungary,
just like our elections of 2026 will also be instrumental in
(15:27):
this country. Very important.
So what do you feel like needs to be done both in Hungary and
in America, for the things that alarm you the most?
Well, I can speak. You know much better about my
own country, OK? It's basically I think our
democracy is being destroyed. I think if people wake up,
(15:50):
that's what they can see. We're in the most dangerous time
of my entire lifetime, which I've lived through a lot of the
things in this country, and I think we are in super danger if
we don't really try to stop this.
(16:13):
What's going on is against the Constitution, it's against our
laws, it's against our entire way of government where we have
checks and balances. You know, the right wing here
has taken over our Supreme Courtjust like Orban did in 2011.
He just completely replaced their Constitutional court with
(16:34):
his cronies. That's what's happened here.
That's why we're in so much trouble because what's out a
lot, one thing that is allowing us to fight is our courts.
So we're in. We're in real danger in this
country, I think very big danger.
Without judging, you know, the, the, the people involved, I
(16:57):
mean, aren't the judges just whoever is president appoints
judges? And like like I said before, it
goes back and forth depending onwho's in power.
Yes, but unfortunately we've gotsuch an imbalance, okay, So when
when we get a chance to redo things, we'll have to make sure
these things cannot happen, okay.
(17:18):
There's a lot of things that were wrong with our system that
I think our current situation isteaching us all where the
pitfalls are, how we are in a situation where we basically
have minority rule in this country.
Where a situation where one party can dominate so much in
(17:38):
terms of the Supreme Court and the fact that they're elected
for a lifetime. So that that our system has
allowed for the situation that we're in now.
And at some point we have to have ways to correct that so it
doesn't happen. So you're saying that we have to
(17:59):
change our system in a in a way that we.
Yeah, we do. We do have to to try to rectify
some of the things that have allowed this to happen, yeah.
If people want to learn more about this film because it it
really does raise a lot of very interesting points.
Some people will agree with the points, some people won't, but I
think everyone's going to find it fascinating.
(18:21):
Where can they go online to learn more about your movie?
Well, they can go to our website.
It's a Clarity film. CLARITY films.org and we have
lots of information about the film there.
They can join our Facebook pages.
(18:41):
And the film is opening theatrically around the country,
starting with New York on September 5th.
It'll be in Los Angeles on September 19th, Seattle
September 12th, and many, many other places it's going to.
Basically, we'll have it online probably in the end of November.
(19:01):
Well, I highly recommend it. I want to thank you so much for
coming on The Sounds of Film. Thank you very much, Tom.
Hi, this is Tom Needham and you are listening to the sounds of
film. And today we welcome Academy
Award nominated an Emmy winning filmmaker, Connie Field, whose
latest documentary Democracy andWar, investigates the rise of
authoritarianism in Hungary under Viktor Orban.
(00:21):
The film, which has been honoredat leading festivals worldwide,
follows 3 fearless women as theyrisk everything to expose
corruption and defend democracy.Field brings her unparalleled
history of documenting social justice struggles to the screen
for this important film. I want to thank very much the
(00:41):
great Connie Field for joining us on The Sounds of Film.
Thank you Tom for having me. Yeah, of course.
So tell me a little bit about why you wanted to make this film
in the first place. Well, the reason I made the film
is, is really because my husbandis Hungarian and we've been
going back to Hungary almost every year since 1990.
(01:03):
So we've been watching everything a full, you know,
sort of unfold in real time through the eyes of lots of our
friends who were there and just being there ourselves,
ourselves. And I actually started filming
in 2014 when we were visiting. And we were in a park that has
Ronald Reagan on one one side ofit.
(01:25):
And on the other side of it werethese four empty pillars
surrounded by police. And they were all these
demonstrators. So I was curious about what was
going on, so I started filming and asking questions and found
out that what this was all aboutis that Orban was creating a
statue which was rewriting history.
(01:48):
And the history he was rewritingwas how Hungary had suffered
under Germany during World War 2, as opposed to being allies,
which they were, and as opposed to the Hungarians being the ones
who rounded up their Jews and helped had sent them straight to
Auschwitz. And so people were protesting
(02:11):
that false history. They actually stopped that
statue for being made for six months and they created sort of
a counter display in front of itthat exists to this day.
So everybody who walks into Liberty Square will see the
statue and the counter display right in front of it.
(02:33):
That is giving the real history of what happened there in in
World War 2. And that's where I met Nico
Antal and we became very good friends, Facebook friends.
And I saw I was following her life during all these these
years. But this is what really started
it and both of us were very aware at that time how serious
(02:58):
it was in terms of where Orban was leading that society and
that it was a real danger. Why do you think Orban's rise is
particularly relevant to audiences outside of Hungary?
Well, it's definitely relative. It's definitely connected to
(03:20):
what's happened to happening to us here in America right now.
Unfortunately, most people see it as a mirror of everything
that's going on here. Trump and company really follow
Orban's playbook. You can clearly see what the
playbook is in the film. Europe certainly knows this is a
(03:41):
big, it's been a big danger in Europe.
There's a real rise to the right.
The EU has been trying to fight Orban for years, sometimes
successfully, sometimes not successfully.
And the film has been all over Europe, and it's also been
broadcast all over Europe in in dozens and dozens of countries.
(04:04):
And now we're just bringing it first to the United States,
where it's opening in theaters here.
I recently watched Apbs documentary that featured Steve
Bannon and a a bunch of other characters that he works with
and he actually liked the PBS documentary, but he gets into
his strategy that he has used tosupport Trump.
(04:28):
And as I was watching your movieit it made me think of that
documentary a little bit. Both films really get into the
strategy of different leaders. Can you tell me about some of
the things that you learned you you said that Trump copies or
Bond? Like what are some of those
things that you noticed are being copied?
Well, it's down to a tee. I mean, it's creating enemies.
(04:51):
You create enemies, so thereforeyou can then save your society
from those enemies. That's exactly what Trump is
doing in terms of immigration inthis country.
Orban did the same thing with immigration in his country.
So everything's a boogeyman now.They're trying to make Steve
(05:13):
Miller's, trying to make the Democratic Party into the
boogeyman. Orban made George Soros into the
boogeyman. Orban made the EU into the
boogeyman, etcetera, etcetera. I mean, it's, it's, it's really
a complete playbook by playbook move between Orban and Trump.
(05:33):
I don't know as much about what's going on over there as as
here. Just to play devil's advocate
just for the sake of it, I, I think like what Bannon would
say. I don't know if this is what or,
or Bannon says as well that prior to Orban or Trump coming
in that a lot of the things thatare upsetting people today were
(05:57):
being done to conservatives. I'm not saying that that's right
or wrong, but they would say that the that the media by
majority was basically in favor of the Democratic Party.
If you look at like the the mainstream networks, the Times,
CNNMSNBC, the intelligence agencies, a lot of different
(06:19):
organizations around nonprofits,colleges, what what does one say
to that kind of criticism that no one likes government taking
control of these things, But there's always been tilt to one
side or the other depending on who was in power at different
times. Well, you know, certainly
(06:39):
whoever is in power basically, you know, has has their
perspective on what what they want to do with society.
I mean, and there's very different, you know, visions
between the Democratic Party andbetween now the Republican
(07:00):
Party. It's never the party.
Republican Party is nothing likeit was 15 years ago.
As you know, it's become something completely
differently. I don't think the media was, it
was ever biased in the way that Bannon likes to portray it.
And in fact, I often got very frustrated listening to NPR
(07:21):
because instead of being reporters, they seemed like
interviewers. They interview the right and
they'd interview, you know, the left.
That's what they did. And let each speak.
They wouldn't be a reporter thenthat told you what the real
facts were. So I'm, I've spent my life being
frustrated with NPR, OK. The ones that they criticized
(07:41):
for not being balanced. And I don't think any of that's
true at all. And what happened in our country
really is, is our entire information system has been
bifurcated. OK.
You have a population over here who gets this information, and
you've got a population over there that listens to a
completely different information.
(08:03):
I mean, it's like the woman who is Orban's spokesperson and is
not Orban Trump's spokesperson in the first election, Conway,
you know, Oh, there are alternative facts.
That's what she said. There are not alternative facts
in the world. They're facts.
But but we basically exist in a world where people are getting
(08:26):
completely different information.
And why does the majority in certain countries now seem to
tip towards Trump or or ban? And your reason and your
reasoning? The majority where?
Why are they voting for for suchpeople?
You mean why did people vote forOrban or why did people vote for
(08:50):
Trump? Yeah.
OK. People voted for Orban and not
largely because in the administration before there was
a good deal of corruption and the administration before Orban
was had the when the world completely economically imploded
(09:12):
in 2008, they were the people inpower, OK, So they got blamed
for that, all right. So people looked at Orban as as
a savior to that and he came in power at A at a time that was
economically much better. He actually has done a couple of
very good things for his society.
(09:33):
He's created family programs that has been very helpful to
the middle class in Hungary. He's made it so it's based on
your salary so that very poor people don't get any family
benefits. So he's certainly not giving
them to the Gypsies in Hungary, who are really the only mostly
(09:55):
the only population, Hungary that's not white.
They're not like the United States at all.
And plus, Hungary had a lot of European money that was given to
it that where Orban built some things in the countryside that
people appreciated. All that money came from the EU
and he turns the EU into a boogie man.
(10:16):
And also he controls all of the media in the country that they
only hear what Orban wants them to hear.
They, the opposition has no voice for themselves in the
countryside. In Hungary he owns all the
newspapers, his people, all the most of the television, The only
(10:41):
news that is not that way, it resides on the Internet and it's
mostly heard by people in Budapest, and that's why people
vote for him. People also vote for Orban
because in the small towns many people work for the
municipalities that are controlled by Orban's party and
if they don't vote for his partythey will lose their jobs.
(11:06):
OK. OK, there's a lot of reasons why
people are voting for him that aren't necessarily good reasons.
Yeah, and you go into that in the in the movie and you do that
through the voices of 3 distinctwomen.
Tell me about how you chose these people and why it was
important to tell the story fromthis point of view.
(11:27):
Well, I wanted Hungarians to tell the story.
I didn't want to be the one telling the story.
It has to come from them. I chose the three women Nikko I
met in 2014. OK, so I've always followed her
and been close to her and her family situation was very
interesting because her mother is very pro orban her.
(11:49):
Her mother's her stepfather tried to get her involved in a
very right wing neo Nazi party which Nico rebelled against.
So I thought her situation was really very interesting.
Plus, she's a a working woman and a nurse who's working in the
public hospitals, so she could, you know, reveal a lot of what
(12:12):
went on there. Timia, I wanted someone who was
involved in politics and she wasso feisty and so articulate.
You know, she was great to to work with and formed a great
perspective on what was going on.
And then I knew I also needed a journalist.
(12:33):
I needed that perspective and Bad Bat was, you know, has been
a awarded journalist. She's been working for a long
time in journalist. She has an incredible history of
of, you know, the places where she was working, it would be
taken over by Orban. She had to go somewhere else
that would get taken over by Orban.
(12:54):
Finally, she's ended up working for a news organization that's
on the Internet in in Budapest. And those were the three women
who tell us the story about what's happening there.
And it's an incredible story. There was one part of the film
tell me exactly who it was. One of the women was accused
(13:17):
because of her association with Harvard and Afghanistan of being
somehow like an intelligence person and that and that was
used to try and defame her. Which person was that again and
and what was the outcome of that?
That's Timmy O Sabo and she's she's in Parliament.
She's an MP in Parliament. Yes, they accused her of being
(13:40):
ACIA agent because of that and tried to to drum her out, tried
to let her lose her election. They also accused her of taking
cocaine money from Portugal or somebody.
It was really incredible. They just threw everything at
her, but yet she won her election.
Wow, that's incredible. Era in in in Buddha an area in
(14:02):
Budapest and she won the election even over all that
propaganda against her. What has been the outcome for
them since your film has come out, if any?
You mean has it affected them? Yes.
Well, I, I hadn't shown it in Hungary yet.
(14:23):
And, you know, I was, I will do that later.
So it's, you know, it's the, theOrban people know about the film
because they confronted Timia ata reception.
I think it was actually at the US embassy in Budapest.
(14:44):
They quoted from the film. Somehow they've all gotten to
see it. I don't really know how you
know, but it's it's, you know, Orban isn't at the stage where
he is going to arrest people, where he is gonna, you know, try
to, you know, he has so much control that he is not really
(15:07):
threatened. Now he is being threatened by a
new party that is out polling him.
So we will see what happens thisyear.
These hit the elections of 2026 will be instrumental in Hungary,
just like our elections of 2026 will also be instrumental in
(15:27):
this country. Very important.
So what do you feel like needs to be done both in Hungary and
in America, for the things that alarm you the most?
Well, I can speak. You know much better about my
own country, OK? It's basically I think our
democracy is being destroyed. I think if people wake up,
(15:50):
that's what they can see. We're in the most dangerous time
of my entire lifetime, which I've lived through a lot of the
things in this country, and I think we are in super danger if
we don't really try to stop this.
(16:13):
What's going on is against the Constitution, it's against our
laws, it's against our entire way of government where we have
checks and balances. You know, the right wing here
has taken over our Supreme Courtjust like Orban did in 2011.
He just completely replaced their Constitutional court with
(16:34):
his cronies. That's what's happened here.
That's why we're in so much trouble because what's out a
lot, one thing that is allowing us to fight is our courts.
So we're in. We're in real danger in this
country, I think very big danger.
Without judging, you know, the, the, the people involved, I
(16:57):
mean, aren't the judges just whoever is president appoints
judges? And like like I said before, it
goes back and forth depending onwho's in power.
Yes, but unfortunately we've gotsuch an imbalance, okay, So when
when we get a chance to redo things, we'll have to make sure
these things cannot happen, okay.
(17:18):
There's a lot of things that were wrong with our system that
I think our current situation isteaching us all where the
pitfalls are, how we are in a situation where we basically
have minority rule in this country.
Where a situation where one party can dominate so much in
(17:38):
terms of the Supreme Court and the fact that they're elected
for a lifetime. So that that our system has
allowed for the situation that we're in now.
And at some point we have to have ways to correct that so it
doesn't happen. So you're saying that we have to
(17:59):
change our system in a in a way that we.
Yeah, we do. We do have to to try to rectify
some of the things that have allowed this to happen, yeah.
If people want to learn more about this film because it it
really does raise a lot of very interesting points.
Some people will agree with the points, some people won't, but I
think everyone's going to find it fascinating.
(18:21):
Where can they go online to learn more about your movie?
Well, they can go to our website.
It's a Clarity film. CLARITY films.org and we have
lots of information about the film there.
They can join our Facebook pages.
(18:41):
And the film is opening theatrically around the country,
starting with New York on September 5th.
It'll be in Los Angeles on September 19th, Seattle
September 12th, and many, many other places it's going to.
Basically, we'll have it online probably in the end of November.
(19:01):
Well, I highly recommend it. I want to thank you so much for
coming on The Sounds of Film. Thank you very much, Tom.
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