This episode of the SOUNDS Podcast features a classic conversation from The Sounds of Film archive with Josh Rogin, columnist for the Washington Post’s Global Opinions section and political analyst for CNN.
Rogin, who also appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience, joins host Tom Needham to discuss his groundbreaking book, Chaos Under Heaven, which delves into the Trump administration’s turbulent and high-stakes dealings with China.
Rogin brings deep expertise to the conversation, having reported on foreign policy and national security for outlets including Bloomberg View, Newsweek, the Daily Beast, Foreign Policy magazine, Congressional Quarterly, and even Japan’s Asahi Shimbun. A 2011 finalist for the Livingston Award for Young Journalists and recipient of the Interaction Award for Excellence in International Reporting, Rogin offers unparalleled insights into U.S.–China relations, the COVID-19 crisis, and the internal battles that shaped America’s response.
Chaos Under Heaven exposes a divided administration navigating one of the most critical moments in recent history—an essential listen for anyone interested in global politics, health policy, and the behind-the-scenes power struggles that defined a presidency.
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Cold Case Files: Miami
Joyce Sapp, 76; Bryan Herrera, 16; and Laurance Webb, 32—three Miami residents whose lives were stolen in brutal, unsolved homicides. Cold Case Files: Miami follows award‑winning radio host and City of Miami Police reserve officer Enrique Santos as he partners with the department’s Cold Case Homicide Unit, determined family members, and the advocates who spend their lives fighting for justice for the victims who can no longer fight for themselves.