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March 10, 2025 67 mins
Doink da doink! Brad from the Pop Culture Yearbook Podcast returns to Soundtrack Your Life to talk to Nicole and Ryan about the Lonely Island 2016 film, Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping. It flamed out when it was released back in 2016 but it's reached cult status with it's joke-dense comedy, super talented cast, and songs that are equally brilliant and catchy. It's a film that was funny back in 2016 and actually holds up today in 2025.

Chapters
0:00:00 Intro / Why are We Talking about Popstar?
0:04:40 The 1st Time Watching Popstar
0:08:48 Were you a Lonely Island fan before this movie?
0:13:25 The Songs in Popstar
0:15:51 Some of Many Cameos in Popstar
0:20:25 Popstar Predicting the Future?
0:23:31 Deep Dive in to the Soundtrack
0:36:06 The Brilliance of Tim Meadows and Other "Non-Cameos"
0:47:52 Other Favorite Lonely Island Projects?
0:52:42 Hunter the Hungry / Chris Redd and Favorite Gags / Jokes
0:59:25 Ibiza and Final Popstar Thoughts
1:04:32 Thank Yous and Goodbyes

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
H m hm hm hm.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm Ryan pack N Barlow and this is Soundtrack Your Life,
where we speak with the guests about a soundtrack that
is important to them. Returning to the podcast today is
Brad from the Pop Culture Your Book podcast. Welcome back, Brad.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Hi, guys, thanks for having me back. I wasn't really
sure i'd ever get askedpect after what we talked about
last time, so this is kind.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Of actually actually actually we are. We are so happy
that you still talk to us. Last time.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Oh it was fun.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, So so Brad. Uh, we did an episode with
us on the film Beautiful Girls, and today we are
going to talk about a movie that I think we're
a little bit more agreeable about. But but Brad's great.
I listened to his podcast. He's a I talked to
him on Twitter all the time, and he contributed to

(01:06):
our twenty twenty four best of Music list, So thank
you for that, thank you for asking me, and so
you know, he's got great taste, like a lot of
our other guests that we asked. And you know, if
you are not subscribed to our Patreon, you may want to,
so you can check out Brad's picks as long as
as well as Scott in Toronte's Picks, and I had

(01:28):
Catherine Moore and Terry Jeane Caspro. So anyways, so Brad
is back and today we are going to talk about
the twenty sixteen Lonely Island film pop Star, Never Stop,
Never Stopping. So Brad, why are we talking about pop
Star today?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well, first off, I want to say, I mean, I
love the movie, but I didn't pick this movie, so
if it goes sideways. You came to me and asked
if I wanted to talk about this movie. So it's
not like last time. Don't want to repeat the Girls disaster.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
So's a little bit backstories. Brad has done an episode
on pop Stars, so I know that you're a fan, yes,
and I wanted you to make sure. I wanted to
make sure we didn't repeat the flow of last the
last episode we did together, so I wanted to make
sure that we I love pop Star as well. I
showed you off offline that I have the vinyl variant

(02:27):
pop Star soundtrack on vinyl with the Connor for Real
album cover, which we'll get into shortly. But Nicole sat
for the first time, but I was like one hundred
percent sure she was going to enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
So, yeah, you were really confident and you were you
were correct. It is this is like the least controversial
film that you could talk about, Brad. It's so good.
How do you hate that? I don't know how you
hate this. It is just choco block with cameos and
jokes and the silliest and grossest and best sort of

(03:02):
humor from the lonely island from the aughts. It was amazing.
I don't know how I missed it. I kind of
do know how I missed it.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Everybody did.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Everybody did, right, That's exactly right. I think even even
Andy Samberg has been like, well they would they kind
of market it as a Justin Bieber mockumentary, and it
isn't at all. So even if it has the aesthetics
of that, and I think at the time they had
been kind of imitating the Justin Bieber documentary film in
terms of how it was promoted, it's not that at all. Really.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yes, your text to me today was pop Star is
so stupid. I loved it.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Every stupid moment I loved it.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I think That's what I loved about it is I
didn't expect much going in, like so this type of
music is not mine. Like I'm not into you know,
a lot of the like I like all the cameos,
but like they're not people I used to listen to
or anything. So it looked funny because I like Andy
Samberg like and I love those guys. But watching I
didn't expect a lot. I watched it with my wife,
and she's really hard to please and when it comes

(04:04):
to this kind of a movie, but we both loved it.
Like she I don't think she'll ever watch it again,
but like she loved at that time, and I just
I've watched it I don't know how many times since.
And the other movie you had asked me about was
Walk Hard, which I think these two movies are just
the most perfect satires. And it's not just because of

(04:25):
the it's so well written and everything, but the music
is just amazing in both Like you you could like
listen to the soundtrack and like enjoy it by itself.
So this is just a total loss treasure and I'm
always happy to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
So, so, Brad, where did you first see it? Was
it at home? Was it? Did you watch it in
the theaters?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
No? It was on so we were still getting Netflix discs,
and so I had added it to our queue and
it came in discs and we watched it on DVD
on a Friday or Saturday night sometime.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Children sms to give you really send them in the
mail in little paper, little paper parcels.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
It was great.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
It was a great time.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
So I guess I'm the only person on this planet
that watched it in the theater maybe opening weekend. Yeah,
so I was excited about it. My friend had a
kind of restaurant, tiki bar that was in the same
mall as a movie theater. So I was like, let's
go have a few cocktails and then stumble into the

(05:33):
AMC and watch this movie because it'll be at least
pretty funny, you know, you know, the Lonely Island, Andy Zamburg,
and you know, having a couple of drinks in you
will probably make the experience even better. And the theater
was definitely not full, but I think everyone had a
good time, those of us who were there. But this

(05:53):
this movie famously bombed at the box office. Unfortunately, I
think time has been very generous to it. It's aged well.
I don't think i've seen it since I saw it
in the theater, Like I've seen a lot of the
clips circulating because like it's always people are always like
quoting it or using memes from it, so it's always

(06:14):
it's like been in my mind. And obviously I have
the soundtrack, so I remember a lot of it. But
I feel like, outside of like the joke about you know,
playing everything off an iPod and I think I think
they're playing with like a Nintendo, we at one point,
outside of a couple of things like it's it feels
like it could have been released today and it would

(06:34):
still be like just as topical.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Absolutely. I don't know if you two felt this way,
but I actually felt like it could be made today.
It's almost like a little predictive of where pop stardom
has arcd in a way. There's a part where any
Samber's character Connor is like there's no such thing as
selling out anymore, Like we can put music in fridges
like it's fine, And I do kind of feel like
we're there. I feel like the age of like TikTok

(06:59):
bread pop stardom, like we're there. Like everybody is documenting
like every shit that they take as part of a
promotion for an album on TikTok, so in a way
it feels kind of bruscient, like, yeah, of course this
is pop stardom. Absolutely. It's also like I think worth
mentioning that it is. It is very much in the
style of Spinal Tap. It's like, what if we did

(07:21):
spinal Tap, but it's pop music.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, I definitely owes a lot to Spinal Tap. Like
if you're going to make a movie like this, like
whether you want to avoid it, you're you're not gonna
be able to avoid the Spinal Tap comparisons.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
But in a good way. I mean that in the
most complimentary way. I feel like it's it's this Walk
Hard and Spinal Tap. Yeah, you've got to choose three
absolutely amazing mockumentaries.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Because there's others, and I don't there's none that come
into my mind like that I know and love or anything.
It's but Walk Hard's another one where when I first
saw it it was kind of it was kind of
as a bomb too. And when I first watched it,
I didn't really know what I was getting into, and
I mean it was like, this movie is the best
thing I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
It was so funny, also very predictive, I feel like
a biopics for musicians after that, right.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, well there's so many. I just saw the Bob
Dylan movie and you know, they kind of all follow
pretty close to the same sort of you know arc.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, yeah, we saw that too, and I feel like
we keep bringing it up as an aside on every
podcast now because it just it feels very all roads
lead back to, Like the Timmy shallamet Bob Dylan movie.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
He was fun on SNL though.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, that was good.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, better than I was expecting, especially after watching that movie.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
But Brad, were you a Lonely Island fan going into
watching this movie like casual Lonely Island flan knew them
for an essenal.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Visual, so I I mean, I mean, of course I
know all the big skits and everything the digital shorts
from SNL, and that's what I knew the most. But
so when we started our podcast, the guy that I
started it with he doesn't do it anymore, but he
is like the biggest fan of Andy Samberg in the world.
Like I'm not kidding, he is, like he loves me

(09:15):
so much. And so we first started so we have
an episode on pop Star, like you said, but one
of our very first episodes was on the Lonely Island
and we did it on the Whack album, which he loved,
and so that was really my introduction to them outside
of Saturday Night Live as far as like, they put
out actual albums of music and I loved listening to that.

(09:36):
It was great. So I am a decent fan, but like,
I don't seek him out like that, but I've learned
a lot about him through him, and I've liked everything
that I ever see, this movie being probably my favorite.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, to me, Andy Samberg is primarily Joanna Newsom's husband,
So I like am sort of a casual where I've
I've heard these songs and I've heard these songs from
pop Star outside the context of the movie, but I've
never seen the movie, and they hit so much differently
during the concert scenes in the movie.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Well, like the stage in those concert scenes, like the
whole production is just amazing too. The bin Laden song
is probably my favorite when it comes to that, with
all the the women marching in their you know, the
military outfits and everything. It's it's so well done, and
all the holograms, Adam Levine thanking himself.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Oh my god, it's so good. It's so good. And
there's the beard it's so good. That was bad.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I mean, I think I'm like Brad where I knew
Andy Samberg from like the digital shorts that he would do,
you know, Lazy Sunday I think was the first big
one I knew of a lot of the you know,
like I'm on a boat. I remember drunkenly yelling that
on a yacht or not on a yacht or whatever.
We had a company party on a boat once and
I remember, just like a yacht. I wish I was

(11:01):
on a yacht. Patreon, Yeah, Patroon pays for the yacht.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
My favorite of those is I threw it on the ground,
Like some of the they're just so you wonder where
they come up with their ideas from. I don't even know,
but like that's when he says happy Birthday to the ground.
That's like one of my favorite moments of anything they've done.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
So yeah. I remember when Andy Samberg was introduced on
sn O, like it was like a weekend update thing
and it was him and Bill Hayter. They were joining
at the same time, and Bill Hayter was like breaking
out all his impressions and then Andy Samber would just
go buzz app and everyone would just start like screaming.

(11:49):
And I had a friend who like held that against
Andy Samberg for the longest time. It was like Bill's
Hater is so much more talented than Andy Samberg. How
come he's not a bigger are the animal? Like like,
it doesn't have to be like either or you know,
like they can both be like their buddies like Bill
Haters and all of the.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Movies, right, And they have different different skills with their
with their comedy.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
And they're both very good at it.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
I think the thing that maybe set him back a
little bit was a comparisons to Adam Sandler at first
just because the name, but then they look kind of
similar and he did a lot of singing and stuff,
so they did the movie together too. They Yeah, that
came a little later, I think, but yeah, that was inevitable. Probably.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
I don't feel like it's it's worth mentioning, right, Like
I think Andy Simberg gets kind of a little bit
of a bad rap in comparison to some of his
contemporaries at SNL right where people tend to like categorize
his humor as being more juvenile, and I think The
Lonely Island has a lot to do with that, because, yeah,
the lyrics are kind of juvenile, but it's an on

(12:53):
purpose thing. Like to do this level of like parody
songcraft takes a very smart person. Yeah, Like there's a
lot of intelligence and insight in every single one of
the songs in Pop Star.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, that's when I when I first listened to that
Whack album, because I'd never listened to like, you know,
outside of SNL before. I was like, this is brilliant,
Like I don't know how you can not only craft
the lyrics, but then you said it to music where
it's like listenable and it's good, and it's like, yeah,
it's they should deserve a lot of credit for for
what they do.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
I mean, there's an entire song in this film, right
and on the soundtrack about Mona Lisa and how she's
the original basic bitch.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
And a fuck like garbage fail kid.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Right, but garbage fil kid in the garbage tail kid
like version of her comes up on like the JumboTron
as part of the show. It's so dumb. Your smirk
like you're hiding a dick. It's so it's so dumb,
but it's so good, like you cannot help but laugh
at it. Incredible.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Well, and I think it's there's some truth to it too,
because she's the painting, isn't because she's beautiful and so
an idiot like him sees it and like he he
looks at it in his way and he's like, well,
she's ugly. So but that's I think part of the
funny is that it's it's what you'd expect, and so
it's not just being mean or anything. It's it's more
commenting on him than anything.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yes, he is consistently like the butt of a joke
because yeah, of course somebody that's this shallow would write
a song.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
From his perspective, right I or have a or his
equal rights song, you know, And how he has to
constantly comment about how he's not.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Gay, which is just macklamore right, Like we're just like
giving ship to maclamore. That's how I like this, mack lamar. Sorry, Macklamore,
you seem pretty cool now.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
And it wasn't just that saying he's not gay over,
but throwing in like beef jerky and hot wings and
Leonard Skinner Leonard skinnerd and sports and like all these
manly things to really drive home the point beer hogies, sweats.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Or he has that line, he has that verse about
how while he's having sex with all these women, he's
thinking about how gay people are being repressed.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
All straight women, by the way, Yeah, all these beautiful
straight women, all ten of them.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
And I love in the universe of this movie that
even in the music video which he directed, people are
looking at him all disgusted and side eyed like pink.
And there's that game couple that he's like being the
efficient for and they're both like, what are you saying.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
It's nice though, because at the end of the movie
he realizes the song was offensive. So you get a
little character development out of it later on, just a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
In this movie. That's growth.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
One thing that I picked up on later is so, like,
like Nicole said, Dy Sandberg is married to Joanna Newsome,
who is she's a musical prodigy, plays the harp and
piano as many great albums and not not like super mainstream,

(16:14):
but like kind of in that like popular indie person
but not exactly crossed over sort of realm. Like I
saw her open for Wilco. I think that's like a
good way to show how popular she is. So she
makes a cameo in the film as the steam steam
punk doctor. I believe that is what is in the

(16:36):
credit's steampunk Doctor during the flat liner scene.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
It's got like blue hair are in the movie.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, all three other wives are. The movie, Akiva's wife
is at the end. She's the kind of like the
producer with the headset that like makes out with him.
At the end. They're like, oh wow, like they're making
out hard. You knew each other. So, yeah, all the
wives make a which is pretty cool. But yeah, Joanna
Newsom's in there, and she's kind of gotten more popular

(17:05):
even though she hasn't put out an album in a while.
And like in the movie Night Bitch, they like referenced
one of her albums a lot nicole. Is that right?

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Yeah, Well, there's an entire needle drop in Night Bitch
with Amy Adams where they play the entirety of the
song Divers from the album of the same name, and
it's quite It's a very long song. It's very lyric heavy,
so it kind of is surprising that it was used
in that way, But that's pretty cool. Joana Newsom does
have like a I think kind of a side gig

(17:34):
as an actress as well. She was in Inherent Vice.
She's got a little bit of a couple acting credits
to her name. She is primarily singer songwriter, but it
was funny to see her in this and I would
not have recognized her at all. But also, this movie
is so dense with cameos from everyone you could possibly
imagine in the pop music landscape of twenty sixteen. It's everyone.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, I mean to the point where when there's a
character on the screen and you're not sure who they are,
you assume there's somebody and you got to figure out
who they are. But they're probably a couple of them,
aren't They're used really in a really great way too,
Like it's I feel like it enhances the film rather
than coming off as you know, like corny or like
of course they're giving that person a cameo.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
I love that little Asap Rocky cutaway where he talks
about the Asap Rocky crunchables. Yep, like I have my
own line like a Rocky lunchables, which also like mister
Beast has lunchables now, like come on, like this is
just what we're doing. I feel like this is just
this is very predictive of things that are happening.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Like now, yeah, cameos so great is that they all
they're all bought in, like they're also committed to it,
and a lot of them make fun of themselves. I
think that's the Mariah Carey killing has one line at
the beginning, but it's so funny when they're playing the
song Humble and she said, how that song spoke to
her because she's just probably the humblest person she knows.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's great between that and the Batman Lego
movie where she's the mayor for whatever reason, like she
has like this like streak of like really like funny
like Meda cameos and things. I was like, how's that voice?
And then I read the credits Mariah Carey is the mayor.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Yeah, like apparently apparently she can laugh at herself. There's
so many cameos in this it's really quite ridiculous. I'm
just kind of reading through them now because the list
is so long, but it's everyone that you could imagine. Problem. Yeah,
Star and Katy Perry, Adam Levine gets like more than

(19:39):
of it.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
And in twenty sixteen, we weren't sick of Questlove showing
up in cameos like we're sick of Dave Grohl and
Henry Rowlands now love. But yeah, this movie has the
appropriate amount of justin Timberlake, not too much, not too much.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
And again I think it's him being able to take
a roll of pokes fun in himself as the chef
who is like cutting the care ridiculous more quiet classification,
which is great, It's amazing. I think he wasn't overexposed
at this point or like involved in a hole. Do

(20:22):
you why this will ruin the tour thing?

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Well? And then he gets to be the fish costume
at the end too, which nobody knows, but it makes
him so proud that he got to be out there
doing that.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
He's like, yeah in the fish costume. I was like,
did they is this they predict the masked singer too?

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, that's what it looked like.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
I was like, does culture just owe a lot more
debt to pop star than they're saying.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
That's very possible. I mean there's yeah, there's so many
things like the acep, Rocky crunchables, the you know him
over sharing on social media, like I just jacked.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
It, guys, hashtag doing to donk doing to Donk.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Well, they already they had shows like this at the time,
of course, but I love the Snoop Dogg at the
end with the surprised motherfucker you've been surprised.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Like everyone having their own little documentary show.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
And well the TMZ people too, that's another I don't
watch that show Grappens, so I don't know how close
it is. They're so over the top, but they're so
funny because it will learn it's great and it's just funny.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Out of everyone's water.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Cup get bigger and bigger.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
That's why it's so good because as they go along,
there's like three bits where you get like the fake
TMZ crap, right, and then the cups keep it any bigger,
bigger each scene, and they keep any more like foamy
at the mouth and like over the top and Kathleen
and these like ridiculous creepy ways.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Is great, and then my Mike is like, I wanted
to be longboard model. I think we should hang outside
of the office guys like the long hair. Yeah, And
then all of a sudden it's like, hey, who's got
that picture James Franco outside of a Denny's and everyone
like runs to their laptop.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Great because it really is a stand up of not
just music, but like all aspects of like a three
sixty of pop culture in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, from Like You Guys Wedding Proposals.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
It was kind of marketed where it looked like just
a Justin Bieber thing, but it like it, it encompasses
so much stuff that if you actually watch it, it's that's
part of what you know. It's too bad if you
missed out, because it's it's brilliant and it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Right, Like everything from there is a spinal tap element too.
I like if even if you don't.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Like this music, yeah, I love it in here.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, you love it in here? And the uh, the
story is just so familiar that you know, you don't
have to like necessarily be familiar with like pop pops,
our pop culture. I guess that that wing of pop culture.
But it's still just like everywhere where you know you
at least recognize it.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, you could drop into this movie at any time
and I think you would understand what's going on. Again,
I think that's complimentary because they yes, it's following that formula,
but it's also a send up of both the formula
and the culture, and it works, and the songs work
like you can. I cannot overstate how much the songs
work within the context of the movie. Randall Poster is

(23:32):
the music soup for this too, which I know Ryan knows,
but another big shout out to Randall Poster.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
I think that's the thing that hooked me when I
first watched it is that. So the song I'm So
Humble is basically in the opening credits, and the song
and the production on stage is just amazing. And I'm
not a big Adam Levine fan, but like he's just
his voice in it is perfect, and the hologram thing
is perfect, and it's like by the end of that song,
you're like, this is great. I want to see more.

(23:59):
And it was just and then the lyrics are I mean,
there's so many great lyrics in that song, and the
cameo start and they're all poking fun of themselves. So
I mean it hooks you right away.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, and that performance just like tells you everything you
need to know about Connor for real, Like the lyrics,
and then when the Adam Levine hologround pops, he goes
this cost it a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
No, it's wonderful. And then his his you know previous trio, right,
which is like this Beastie Boys asque trio called the
Style Boys, also fantastic. I love that they like created
a whole like zeigeisty moment around the donkey roll, Like,
oh yeah, everybody remembers the donkey roll. They want you
to do the donkey roll.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Especially Usher.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, that was Usher's dream being able to do the
donkey roll with the Style Boys.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
I sure got to do the donkey roll. He wore
the sweatshirt and everything I.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Mean, which is also funny because everyone knows that Usher
also Bieber's like mentor, like he's the one that broke
Bieber into the mainstream, right, So for Usher to be
in here is also very meta. Like obviously, if this
was just a Justin Bieber slander piece, like Usher probably
wouldn't have made a cameo.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Yeah, it's really not. It's not. I thought going into
it that it would be maybe a little bit more
like the Other Two if people are familiar with that show,
the Other.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Two, which is watched the season of that show.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah, it's like a parody of this you know kid
pop star, right, And that almost feels more Bieber adjacent
or bieber esque than this does, which I think it
almost doesn't even have. You wouldn't even have prerequisite knowledge
of justin Bieber, and it wouldn't matter. I have very little,
and it did not make a difference because everything just

(25:45):
works and it's it's a bunch of stuff that is
constantly keeping you on your toes. When Emma Stone shows
up for the turn up the beer's.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Song, blink and you miss her, blink and.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
You miss her, You're like, wait, what Emma Stone is
in this doing like just a very capable job of
convincing you that, yeah, like she could be a pop starlet. Yeah,
of course that works. Like you almost don't even notice
her because you're like, oh, yeah, that's it feels real
in a sense.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, this is pre Lala landso it's before like she
was like a megastar, you know, Oscar winning actress, right, Like.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
I said, like, is can you draw a direct line
from this to Lull And maybe that's.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Actually the same year. I think I'm trying to I'm
not sure.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Which came a year or after?

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Good question, they're around that time.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Oh they are the same year?

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Are the same year interest.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
This probably came out first. Lowland probably came out at
the end of the year, you know.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
For the for the as Yeah maybe, but that's interesting, Brad.
I did not realize they were around the same time.
That song is great too for what it is, and
that's hung turn up to beef is funny because it's
kind of like the crux of the entire falling apart
of the Style boys is who wrote the all catchphrase.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Verse which is just right, which.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Is so stupid because it's stupid. And then it comes
to like that culmination of the end where they basically
do like make a reunion song that is like all catchphrases,
incredible thoughts with Michael Bolton. Shower thoughts is essentially like.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
What it all is, right, you know from the weed
farmers journals.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Right, They kept that whole thing hidden pretty good until
the very end, because you think he's just this failed farmer,
doesn't know what he's doing about anything, but turns out
he was pretty successful out there.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, woodworking is really good.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
This one's called government in Disarray for obvious reasons.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
This is my poppy. It looks like the poppy, right.
I also want to talk about his song Lawrence's song.
It gets cut off in the in the movie, but
in the full studio version, the chorus is sung by
Chester from Lincoln Park. All the things like screaming like

(28:11):
these are things in my cheek and it's pretty great.
So shout out to the late Chester Bennington for you know,
being a good sport and poking some fun at himself
or just yelling things in my jeep.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, I'm gonna say I noticed it. It says that
song is with Lincoln Park, but I never noticed it
in the movie. And then I guess when I listened
to the soundtrack, I didn't really I just it went
right over my head, like I didn't even But that's
another good cameo there, whether it's in the movie or not.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
And it kind of goes along with him just like random,
like just making up random things like catchphrases and these
are just the things that are in my.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Car, honestly, like even even that bit of the unsuccessful
like these are the things in a jeep song that
you do get. It's so fucking funny, like the like
part where cut to the jeep and then he like
sings the chorus and you're like, wait, that's what that
was about is so well done.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Well, and I think was it Nas, Who's like, you know,
that song doesn't really appeal to me because you know,
I have different things in my jeep.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Rgitally work for me, different things, and it worked for
me because I'm like, yeah, like, why is there always
so much bullshit in like a jeep Wrangler.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, the Nas cameo surprised me because you know, at first,
you're just like, oh, wow, they got Nas to do
this movie, but he just gets like funnier and funnier
with how dead Panny is throughout.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, he comes back like what three or four different times.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, you know, he's very excited about the style. Boys.
I'm glad I got to live for this.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
It's funny to see Carrie Underwood too, and how she
like is supposed to be like the fangirl of the
band and like she's you know, not a big star,
she's just she just loves these guys so much and
how much they were important to.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Her, right, you know. The Lonely Island obviously they've done
they've done albums before, but I think this is a
time where they worked with like a lot of outside
producers and stuff, so they were getting, you know, different
beats from different places. They ended up not going with
like a lot of big name producers, Like there's no

(30:21):
like Pharrell beats or Timbaland or Kanye or anything like that.
And here I believe they happenedupon. I don't think it
was a Riza beat, but it was a beat that
was like for the Wu Tang plan at some point,
and they like had to pass on it because they
just didn't want, like I guess something too good or
too respectable to be for Connor for real. But it's interesting,

(30:44):
like a lot of the producers have that have produced
songs for Connor are not like super active now, Like
their heyday was like between two thousand and like nine
and twenty nineteen, which kind of makes sense maybe they
didn't make it past the decade. But someone that adds

(31:08):
a lot of additional production is Greg Kirsten, who is
now like one of the biggest producers on the planet.
He's he did the last few Foo Fighters album is
probably best known for his work with Adele. But it's
kind of funny how like in the credits you'll see
Greg Kirsten's name pop up a lot. Speaking of how
in twenty twenty five. Pop culture probably owes a lot

(31:29):
to this movie. They were working with Greg Kursten first.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Yeah, and there's a lot of respect to the Wu
Tang clan paid in this movie, aside from aside from
them not wanting to I guess take like a beat
that should have gone to them. There is that part
at the end where one of the Style Boys is
saying to Connor, no, no, no, it's just like in the
Wu Tang clan, like you can go solo, but you're
still part of clan and that's what makes him understand

(31:59):
you and have to choose between his wholo career and
the Style Boys.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, they just keep on naming other members. It's like
your method man, or it's like you're the jizz or
it's like you're It's just like the same example over
and over again.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
So I guess with blending incredible thoughts and all their
the other songs kind of in the movie at the end,
I guess Greg Kirsten had a hand in that to
make that mega mix that Connor for Real retrospective performance,
which is actually really cool, like the fact that they
are able to nail that kind of feel good climax

(32:41):
at the end.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah, pretty hard to do.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
It's a great ending, I mean with Michael Bolton, it
definitely helps.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
But agree, the stagecraft feels very much like you something
you would or have seen on an Awards show.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah. Again, it's it's it's such a dumb movie, but
it's like true to life, Like it's like this, you
can see all this, so much of this stuff happening
at least in some level. Which that's what makes comedy
so good is when it actually has some truth behind it, right.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Everyone loves a good band reunion.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Everyone loves a cameo, whether it's a Michael Bolton or
or usher or both.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
And Michael Bolton is so committed just like all the
other ones.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, the fact that he gets up from like the
piano and he's like walking around stage and you know
he kind of like sings along with some of the lyrics.
Doesn't he have to sing along with something on the Cocaine.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
To Cocaine?

Speaker 4 (33:47):
The stage is offensly just like nothing but a smoke machine.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah. And the visuals are so bad but also so great.
All of the.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Visuals are so bad but so great. That also the
recurring gag with the off punk helmet.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Oh god, that's so funny, incredible.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
To the part where at some point the helmet it's
his head falls and the beam of life that eminates
from the top helmet lines everyone in the whole fucking stadium.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Miriculous sound goes off later on too.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
And he's like, can I take up the helmet? It's
it's like really hurting my back.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
So great.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
And then you also hear like the Harry Potter audiobook.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
I caught that. This is a very rewatchable movie. I
imagine you will catch you know, more things and find
uh other jokes to enjoy. It's very joke dense.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Oh absolutely, Like you know, so I've seen this multiple times,
but like I forgot how funny image in Poots Ashley
Wednesday is where she's like, I used to watch how
you know, there's these will they won't they couples and
that's what I decided, that's what I want.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Are they really in love or are they just doing
it for the publicity?

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, that's what I want, And that's what.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
I want every little girl.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
And then you have Seal singing at it, and then
he's making he's talking about his scars on his face
and saying that he fought wolves, and it's.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Like, yeah, how do you think I got these guys?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
He's willing to do anything.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Oh my god. I mean, I love on this show
getting to talk about movies that are about music and
this whole kind of like meadow world that they create.
But that culmination with her proposed, then proposing and Steel
is singing at the proposal, but then gets attacked by
the wolves that they've invited because she liked wolves. It's
just so dumb.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Well, she was a wolf right in the previous life,
which makes no which makes so much sense.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
I can't believe he remembered.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Can you can you stop the music? I think it's
really upsetting the wolves. No, great little cameo by Paul
Sharer there as well.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, and then besides the music cameos, there's all the
other there's actor ones too like that. And I think
you got to give credit to because he's in Walk
Hard as well. But whenever Tim Meadows is in one
of these movies, he adds so much to it. He's
just he's perfect.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Tim Meadows is never bad in anything.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, let's let's let's dedicate a segment to the brilliant
of Tim Meadows in this movie, the manager who was
formerly a Tony Tony Tony Tony.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Tony Tone, which is a real group Tony Tony.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Tony Tony creative differences because he wanted the question mark
on his name instead of the explanation.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
I did see in the credits that they did pull
a Tony Tony Tony track for while he's talking about that,
the song Anniversary, which is played at like almost everyone
yeah but yeah, so good. I was telling Nicole earlier,
like every time they do that thirty seconds to Mars joke,
like I can't stop laughing. That joke is hilarious, and

(37:04):
and Tim Metta's commitment to just like being furious at him,
like like we've had this discussion before. It's just a
band name, not an actual measurement.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Of time, not a fact.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
It's not a fact.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
It's not a fact.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
And I don't really think that, Like they target as
hard as they could in a movie like this. They're
pretty pretty kind and pretty equal opportunity with who they
make fun of, but they do get in a pretty
good dig there. I think to thirty seconds to Mars,
at least as far as I'm concerned and then also
a really good dig to you two and the whole
iPhone download thing with the fridges like him forcing his

(37:42):
date his second solo album to be on these like
smart fridges is very like you too, Brian and.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
I and his anger you mentioned too at the end
there because he was working for a hundred the hungry too.
And then he turns on him and when he just
he says, I will eat your face. And that final
scene where he goes off at him is is also hilarious, and.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Then he walks over was like, did you see those guys?

Speaker 3 (38:05):
I can't believe I did that.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
He's really a top for everybody is at top form.
Even the people that are on screen for just a
second are fire animal cylinders.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, but such a hidden gem to meadows.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Speaking of the the the refrigerator scene, Maya Rudolph makes
makes the most of her time as Deborah. What's the
root of Deborah Deborah.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
There?

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Oh? Should we talk about Bill Hater too?

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Sure, yeah fat.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Speaking of the Joanna Newsom cameo. So Bill Hayter is
the the stage tech who likes to get f lined
when he's got some downtime.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
They got that the idea from the movie flat Liners.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
That was texting to calls like who remembers that movie?

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Weirdly enough, I do remember flat Liners. It's because it's
such an odd premise and I think they may have
played it on TV a lot in the eighties and nineties.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
I remember it because we own a video store when
it came out. I never actually watched the movie, but
like it was always there on the shelf, and it's like,
this is Julia Roberts follow up to Pretty Woman, flat Liners.
So it was just kind of odd, right it was.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
My memory of flat Liners is being a kid and
going to the grocery store with my mom, going to
Cub Foods Brads on top Foods, yeah, the cup Foods,
And it was like a v It was on like
the impulse aisle as you would like check out, Like
there would just always be a copy of flat Liners
on vhs for someone to buy.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Actually here too, it would always be like on an
m tap or something. I don't even really trying to
make flat Liners.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Happen, Yeah, like this will be popular with the grocery
store crowd.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Let's yeah, somebody's gonna impulse by flat Liners for sure.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
The movie that gets bigger on VHS.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna get some m and ms
and be like, oh, there's flat liners.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Let's get that.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
But like so clearly like Lonely Island may have had
this same weird experience with flat liners. In order to
make it this like extended joke.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, let's make a whole scene where someone's getting flat lines.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
And they never picked that back up. By the way,
I think you see Bill Hater in passing, like maybe
in one of them.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
That's all we learned about him.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
That's the guitar tech. Hater's guitar teck. That's it. He
just likes to f line sometimes and then you're out.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
You don't question it.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
You're like, okay, and you're pretty sure. I'm pretty sure
that he like improv that whole scene too, Like it
feels like it like what's your origin store? And like
I used to get f in my spare time. Okay, go,
let's go lighting. Yeah, like like like everyone's supposed to

(41:10):
know what that is. So, Brad, what is your favorite
song from the soundtrack?

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Oh, it's hard because there's probably well I put two
at the top. I think Humble is probably like the
best song, Like I just I just love the lyrics
and the whole thing with that. My favorite though, I
think it's the been Lot Finest Girl, which you know
has nothing to do with the bin Laden song because

(41:37):
it is so just like, how do you connect these
two things? How do you come up with a girl
who wants to have sex?

Speaker 1 (41:44):
And she compares it to the clinical precision the US
military had when they shot bin Lod the brilliance behind
that and how they it's just great, and then the
whole stage production.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
So I think favorite, I gotta go with that one.
It's so memorable.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Yes, you agree with that, nicolem.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Honestly, I have to. It's this song is a classic
and I and I have heard it before, but I
don't think that i've ever It's very different to experience
it in the world of the movie because his Brad
was saying, the stage setup for it is so stupid
and so funny. But yeah, like she was a freaky

(42:24):
kind of girl that kept up with curn events from
all around.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
The world, more specifically.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
That time Osama bin Laden got shot in the head.
How are you gonna not love that? That? I mean,
that's a that's a big I don't even know who
got the idea to do this because it's so dumb,
it's so great and it works. Yeah, and he's talking
about like invading her cave and kind of technically there
was no cave.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yeah, he corrects her on the right.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yeah. I mean, I think humble just works as a
just like a pop song in general. Also a huge
fan of the Style Boys song Karate Guy.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
Oh yeah, that's great, that's pretty good. We have love
talked about Karate Guy, but I feel like that deserves.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
A moment, Like it doesn't make any sense, but I
love now I'm wearing a cowboy hat, yes, the.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Three cowboy hats.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yes. Ye huh so good.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Me like he that's that's a pretty good one too.
It's kind of buried at the end, but you can try.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
That.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
One's pretty fun if they would maybe play the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
I also appreciate how there's like a little bonus track
about Maximus the tortoise turtle the turtle, Yes, the ill,
the ill fated turtle with I'm sorry, I'm going to
have to read it. What is it again? He has
soggy bone syndrome.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
He wasn't supposed to live more than three to six months,
but here he is twenty your later.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Maximus's funeral, Oh my god, that's the Viking funeral for
Maximus the Turtle where they send him off on a
raft in the party pool and then light him a
blaze and everybody like jumps in the pool.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
For some reason. Like I remember the funeral, but I
didn't remember everyone jumping in the pool afterwards. Like I said,
this movie constantly like reintroduces like so many funny things
to me. I had a good time with that.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Another thing about Incredible Thoughts is a couple of the
writers that are featured on it. There was a really
popular song by Bob around this time called Airplanes. It's
like the rapper Bob and Haley Williams Paramorr sing is
a chorus and I think Eminem is also on the song,

(44:53):
and they kind of lifted that chorus from these songwriters,
and they're the ones that, like, if you think about it,
like the Incredible Lots chorus is very similar to that
to that Airplane song, And I'm like, oh, that makes
so much sense. And that's also very twenty sixteen in
my opinion, you know, with the authenticity of the music,
like they have to, like the lonely Island guys, like,

(45:15):
they have to show a level of competency to be
able to go in the studio with like these actual
professional studio musicians. And I think you see it definitely
on this album if you have ever questioned it before
on like a Whack album or in credit Bad.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Yeah, I was just looking back at the Whack album
because when we talked about that they got we had Pharrell,
Adam Levine, Kendrick Lamar, Hugh Jackman, Billy Joe Armstrong, Justin
Timberlake and Lady Gaga are all on that album with them.
And then the video if you look back at some
of the videos they made it well p Diddy, but
Paul Rudd, Danny McBride, James Franco, Zach Galfanakis, Ed Norton,

(45:53):
who you don't think of it's very funny usually, but
he does one. That's it's the fact that they can
get all these people to just around with them. They
do have to be good at it. They have to
be competent. Otherwise it's just a joke and they wouldn't
get them. And that's what makes it, That's what makes
it so good and sets them apart from other acts
that might try to do the same thing.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Yeah, and if you can tell they have an industry respect.
I think the I think the weird Awl cameo at
the very end is the hammer Lake.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Is that the band that is weird Al in there?
I've never noticed that.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Yeah, he's the uh you assume the lead singer of
hammer Lake. Who's who's introducing them at the end for
the end performance.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
I'll have to check that out again.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Hoppies and hammer Leg is briefly mentioned before in the
movie Where to Meadows is like, oh, you know, selling
thirteen thousand seats out and an eighteen thousand seed venues
pretty good. Not ever, you know, no one sells this
place at and then hammer Leg sold it out last week.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
You know what's funny about this to me is that
there's a weird dollars play big venues now, y'all. Like
he's playing like the Forum coming up soon. Weird All
has reached a place.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Where it seems to be getting more popular, like yeah,
now it's crazy. It's I don't know where that comes from,
but everybody seems to just love him.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
Everybody is on the weird All bandwagon. I guess I've
been there because I grew up with it all. But
I've seen play it like the County Fair and now
he's like this.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
I need to like back to back nights at the
Hollywood Bowl.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
And I don't think he's putting. I don't think he's
put out a new album in a while. No.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
I think he's just you know, coasting on the mountains
of things that he has done. But I think there's
no greater endorsement of your your skills as parody act
than we're all coming on and saying like, yeah, I'm
in the cameo your movie. That's all I need.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
So as far as the Lonely Island goes, what is
your favorite Lonely Island project outside of this movie? Oh?

Speaker 3 (48:09):
So like, yeah, you gave a couple lists of things there. Well,
you had Brooklyn nine nine on that list, and that's
I think. I just love that show. I watched, yeah,
every episode of that and then in Parks and rec
But hot Rod is one that people love and I
hadn't seen until recently, and I find them like, well,

(48:31):
I guess I gotta watch this because it always I
figured it was stupid, but after you know, loving everything
they do and hearing about I'm like, well, it's probably
better than I think. And that was a good movie too.
And I did like Palm Springs. I saw that one once,
but so I mean pretty much anything they've done. I
like that Waycki album. I liked a lot. They have

(48:52):
a song on there called Yolo that I think is
kind of like Humble where it's just so catchy and
it's great to listen to as a regular song almost
and again it has Adam Levine on it, who I
normally don't like.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
I actually think Lonelyland Island Projects might be like massively
underseen and kind of underrated. I also love Palm Springs.
Palm Springs is a great film. I feel like no
one's seen it. Maybe it was only released on Hulu
or something.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Matter of fact I could put when it first came out,
Like I mean, but people, if you didn't watch it,
then you probably missed it. But like, I was excited
to watch that when it came out. That seemed to
get a lot of hype, at least at the time,
and it's gotten really great reviews.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
I will be haunted forever by JK. Simmons saying you
need to find your irvvine.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
Yeah, right, Well, for a lot of reasons. I feel like,
if you're from southern California, there are parts of it
that are more resonant and more entertaining. But Palm Springs
is great, hot Rod is great. I'd never seen pop
Star and I'm so glad that I did. I feel
like I want to transport myself back to twenty fifteen
for a bunch of reasons.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Cool beads. Have you seen the Lonely Island Oakland A's
special that they did for Netflix, The Bash Brothers one.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Yeah, so that's one that I watched once, and that
one I don't remember liking very much, which I think
you'd think I would like it, but I'd probably have
to see it again. Maybe I wasn't in the right
mood that day. But yeah, I saw that, and everybody
I know loves it.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
I liked it, but I think it ran a little long.
I was like, yeah, there's six songs of this. But
I remember they played a show. They don't play a
lot of shows, but I remember, maybe like a few
months before the special came out, they played a show
in Facadene. Then someone recorded video and it was up
on some website where they debuted the song with no context,

(50:54):
So you just have Andy Samberg looking like Andy Samberg
and Kiva shaff are looking to keep going mosa and
they're just like, they're like, are they rapping about baseball?

Speaker 4 (51:09):
I feel like your enjoyment of that partially depends on
your relationship to that era of baseball too.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah, I loved it.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
My husband, this is great, and that's exactly why I
should love it. So I probably should watch that one again.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
And they do have a song about like injecting steroids
into each other.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
That's a good point about going long though. One of
the things I love about Pop Star. The movie is
like less than an hour and a half long. And
but so I hadn't never really listened to the entire
soundtrack until you know, you asked me to do this,
So I listened to it in my car. Then the
night one is on along We're on a road trip somewhere,
and you know, I'm loving it for a long time.
But then it goes on and on and there's well,
there's twenty eight tracks, technically a couple of our like

(51:51):
speaking parts, but there are several songs at the end
that are like I don't think I need this, And
there's and it's just the same swearing, just the same.
It's the same thing over and it's so filthy, and
it's like, Okay, I think I got enough of that one. So,
you know, I think they got to be careful too,
you know, keep it at the right amount. That can
be tricky.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yes, having a good editor is important, and I mean
that's also a problem I think that we have in
the streaming age in general. It's like, oh, let's just
put out a deluxe edition so more people listen to it,
and let's just add these ten songs that are not
as good.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Yeah right, Yeah, that movies are too long and the
albums are too long. I agree. There, let's go back
to keeping it, you know, quality instead of quantity.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
I have a ninety minute movie.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yes, yeah, Speaking of how this movie kind of like
predicted a lot of things. Hunter of the Hungary, which
is played by Chris Red who I don't think had
debut on SNL yet they just found him. He's great
in this movie. He is this foul mouth rapper, very
talking in his lyrics, talking about he's like a tyrannosaurus.

(53:05):
So that seems very modeled after the early part of
Tyler the Creator's career because he was kind of this
shock rapper who had you know, had daddy issues and
used a lot of offensive, homophobic language and stuff like that.

(53:26):
And now Tyler is huge, Like Tyler's a festival headliner,
sort of huge. You know, he's he's got like he's
doing like six six days.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
At like.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Crypto Arena in like February, like, which is funny because
he has a song where he says, uh, I'm the
second biggest of my city after Kenny, and that's the
fact that I was, like rappers admit that. That's very
humble of him, Like I'm the second biggest rapper. I mean,
obviously Kendrick Lamar is much more popular than him, but

(54:00):
to admit that in the song seems like something that
Connor for real, well, actually he wouldn't admit it.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Maybe at the end, yeah, maybe maybe Trent stand there.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
I'm glad you brought up who because I not licking
this kind of music that much. Like I figured he
was kind of base maybe on somebody in particular, but
like I would have no idea, so it kind of
fills in a blank there.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
I love that that two Bandido song that they do together.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
They don't really explain, like, wow, how that song came
together because it's not off of Connor's album, but he
joined the tour and they have the song and the
prank war with them is pretty fun.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Yeah. I like that whole because I like how they're
such good friends at first, like and they really help
and support each other. But then it, you know, that
goes obviously very wrong with the whole quick change thing. Yeah,
it's a great conundrum.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
That's the thirty second some Mars. And also just like
those crazy eyes that Chris Red is so good at
you and you know, maybe I did it, maybe I didn't,
and you can't tell because he just like looks crazy.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
That whole sequence of him trying to reverse the pr
after he like tucks back all of his junk and
people think that he doesn't have a dick is like
it intended scene.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Great, I'm gotta go tweet out a picture of my
dick now, no, you don't.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
Please don't do that.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Yeah. Sarah Silverman very good in this movie.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Yeah, that's another one. Her and tim Meddos are really
about the only two that have that aren't like cameo
length pretty much actually somewhat starring.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Roles amazing dead pan, where she goes, I don't really
listen to music like Connors, but it makes a lot
of people money.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Yeah, it sounds like it's going to make so much
people happy. And then she says it makes so many
people money.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Which is like the most honest thing anyone says in
this movie.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
She also has two of the best lines too, because
when he I love when they go out because they
got to go see Owen, but he has to put
his makeup on and you know, you don't know what
that means, and he's got this disguise, and before she
even said it, I'm like, he looks like Matthew Modine,
who you know, a lot of people wouldn't know who
that is. Maybe they do through stranger things, but like

(56:29):
in my age, like we all grew up with Matthew Modine.
And she's like, you look like you got beastings for
Matthew by Matthew Modine with a peanut allergy.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
And then she tells them like you look like Nazi propaganda.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Those are maybe the two best lines in the whole movie.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
I think, yeah, those are great singers.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Well, then when Owen sees them you look like Jason Segel,
that's right, and he goes, oh, Sarah Marshall, you trying
to forget her?

Speaker 4 (56:58):
Well, speaking of that. So there you will have to
confirm this. Maybe people who are listening can confirm this
beyond a shadow of a doubt. But it seems to
be that the penis that you see pressed against the
limo window in the scene. It's an amazing scene. It's
like an escalating scene where he's like talking to the

(57:18):
farmer style boy, right, Lawrence, Yeah, yeah, Lawrence, and suddenly
this fan is pressing a full frontal penis on the
side of the window. They have said that that is
Jet Appatoo's penis. And the reason Jet Appatoo decided to
be the penis in that scene is because he felt

(57:40):
like he had asked so many other actors like Jason
Siegel in forgetting Sarah Marshall to go full frontal, that
it was like his turn. So supposedly that's jet aptaus penis.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
It's a really good story if it's true.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
I wish I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Ohn't no watch it back. You make your own determined refer.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
To just being an anonymous man's penis pouseta, Like, is
that judds I mean, you didn't fully describe that amazing scene.
First it starts with with breasts against the window, which
you know you kind of expect in this universe, but
first and then breasts and you're like, okay, and then

(58:22):
it escalates to the penis.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
And it's because the girlfriend of that guy wants him
to autograph for her.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Yeah, and then a lot of handshand.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
And then the window goes up and down and it
streaks and it flips over the window, and the whole.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Time Connor and Lawrence are having this like, SERI.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Great, what one more can you want to throw out?
Because it's a guy probably wouldn't expect to see her.
I love Ringo star in here, and you can already
get married. He's writing a song for gay marriage, like
it's not allowed. It's a loud Now, that's such a
great line and that he I just love that when
you see people you don't expect. And then, like every
one of these cameos is just that's so much part

(59:10):
of the movie. But they all just own up and
buy in and it's great.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
And Ringo's voice is always so funny to me.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Yeah, it's perfect for that line. It's a loud now,
you know.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
After this movie came out, I would stream and listen
to the soundtrack all the time. My wife would get
really annoyed with me. She enjoyed the movie. And Uh,
one of the stupidest songs on the soundtrack that I think,
it's the only one we haven't talked about yet, is Abithaba.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
I can't think about the explanation that he has for
that song without laughing.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
And then how yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just
like generic eat bullshit. But the fact that he feels
like he needs to like slur and like sing with
like a speech impediment, because that's how they sound like Anthpanya.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
The part where he's like, I don't think I can
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
It's maybe not the most re listenable song, but every
now and then it'll really cheer you up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Yeah it's not my favorite, but you can tell they're
having fun singing it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
So it rubs off favorite non musical moment of this
movie that we haven't talked about. Do you have one,
let's empty the clip.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
What else you got just looking through my stuff? Oh, well,
here's a good one. And because this was kind of
related to Justin Bieber when he's uh, I don't remember
what points this in the movie was, but Sarah Silverman
asked him, did you take a ship in the Anne
Frank House.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Edy?

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
I mean that was that was great.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
Form. It like they just move on like oh. And
also there's that little part where he's going through this
like pr disaster.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Of a time, right, everything he does is wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Yeah, and he's on the hoverboard and he's asleep on
the hoverboard and they're like filming him like the paparazzi.
He's filling him asleep on the hoverboard and then it's
just suddenly like a bus and like lights on fire.
So great. I also really enjoyed there's this stupid, stupid
part at the beginning where he's there's like a montage
of him doing all these promos and he's doing promo

(01:01:31):
for these embroidered genes called white Bet Jeans.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
That's good.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
And he's doing like the photo shoot for white Bet
Jeans and there are two different embroidery like sayings the
butt of the jeans, and one of them is Jiz
Factory and the other one is exit only and that
like cleep whatever, like baroque embroidery so good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
I'd get some exit only jeans.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Only.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
One of the other. It's it's so funny because it's
the only time in the movie where they like tell
the cameras to shut off because you know, he's letting
him do everything. And then as they're having a serious
discussion that bees come in and they kill him with
flamethrowers and you can hear all the audio and it's
this amazing thing and they're like, please tell me you
got that, and then.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
They turn off the camera.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
So that was pretty good too, get them get.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
The flame thrower.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
There's the queen, the list of the thirty two people
on his payrolls. That's pretty good too. The guy who
poaches him in the nuts so he remembers where he
came from. What was the guy manipulator?

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Yeah, the.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
Short guy who stands next to him see pears taller.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Yeah, we all need one of those.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Indeed, they would probably cover about all my reports.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
So one small thing that I forgot about that I
really liked in the movie wasn't like funny, But when
they turned the poppy award into a bong oh go,
that's like such a nice resolution for this.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Yes, I do like that whole scene where they where
they reunite and then he that whole long apology where
he basically won't admit and he keeps talking and eventually
real that's that whole the whole writing of that thing
is is awesome. And then when he was making a
power move, looks like he's going and then they hug

(01:03:28):
and that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Yeah, it shows it comes from you barely contributed to.
I was barely there thing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Oh that's right, I remember now, I wasn't even there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
But you know, like, uh, Lawrence like chucks the award, right,
and then you're like, oh, maybe that's just the end
of it. And then the fact that they like retrieve
it and turn into a bong. I felt like it's
just very heartwarming.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
It's actually kind of heartwarming, Like it's it's kind of
weirdly wholesome, even though you've been taking through like all
of these weed strains that Lawrence's farm that are like witches,
Kitty Beethoven's Nightmare, postpartum depression. Depression kind of killed me.

(01:04:16):
It is heartwarming, kind of You're right, there's something about
like making a bomb or a bomb out of like
unexpected materials as a as a friend, like I.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Felt like a real resolution.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
It fits for them, It's logical for them, so it works.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah, thank you again, Brad for coming on our podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
With an honor to get asked back. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
We obviously love talking to you about this movie and soundtrack.
Thank you for also enjoying this movie so I could
talk to you about.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
It well, and thank you for listening enough to our
show that you know that I love this movie, so
that makes it fun. I love to find the things
we have in common.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
So, Brad, where can people find Pop Culture Yearbook?

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Well, we are on everything. Still a lot of people
are leaving certain places, but we're at pop Yearbook on
Facebook and X I guess I still call it Twitter.
We got to be on there because we get so
many interaction on there, so we're not leaving there. We're
on Instagram. Everything goes on to threads too, so we're

(01:05:29):
on all those. But you can find us on any
of the podcast platforms. Under pop Culture Yearbook. We talk nostalgia.
It's three friends. We've grown up with each other. We
love all the same movies and music and TV shows,
and we're just kicking off our fifth season this month
of February. We've been on We've got almost two hundred

(01:05:51):
episodes now, so there's a lot out there. You name it,
we might have done it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Well. You can also find us well, you've already found
our podcast, but if you want to follow us on
social media, we are also still on Twitter, Twitter, and
Instagram at soundtrack Cast. If you are on the Blue Sky,
we are just at Soundtrack your Life. Done that, And
also if you want to hear about our musical tastes

(01:06:21):
our picks of twenty twenty four and you can also
see Brad's twenty twenty four picks or hear about it,
you can join our Patreon at patreon dot com slash
Soundtrack your Life. Well, thanks again, Brad, and maybe we'll
do this again sometime.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
We're welcome about to get you back on our show
again too,
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