Show 240: Hydrangea

In this episode I tell you about the medicinal uses of hydrangea, an interesting business idea and why I'm going to have to have dental surgery.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
The name down to the clan, the clan to the.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Hey all. This week's show probably going to try to
do a fairly short podcast. Today We're going to talk
about some interesting herbs, but I'm not gonna go a
full hour like I often do. In fact, we'll talk
about Hydrangea. At least I want to tell you about
hydrange It's one of our native plants, very useful in

(01:54):
herbal medicine. There several varieties We've got, both European and
Native American use. I think, yeah, I think I'm just
gonna do hydrange you today, and it really is one
that's worth spending an entire show on. Next week we'll
get into Saint John's wart, which is also pretty huge.
So I'm not gonna try to do both in one day.

(02:18):
But so I'm a little under the weather. You may remember,
I don't know, a few weeks ago, a few months ago,
I cracked a tooth, A little bit of it broke off,
and it was causing me a lot of pain, and
I used galcemium for the pain, and I told you
about that, and it was dead was good, and I

(02:40):
had to use it quite a bit recently. So apparently
I had a little sinus infection and didn't know it.
I thought I just had a head cold, you know,
I had no idea what was going on, and was
recovering from that basically. You know, I'm using my regular
herbs to treat things. Everything's going along pretty well, and

(03:03):
I bit into something and the tooth just shattered, I
mean broken, whole tooth gone down, the roots exposed, the
nerve is exposed, and the pain was like crazy intense,
I mean, you know, really really bad. So I did.

(03:24):
I used my herbs and everything, and I treated the pain.
Of course, I used cloth and I used calamus, and
even though they were a little numbing, they just not
doing it. Galcimium helped a lot, of course, because it's
a very powerful narcotic pain medication that could be quite dangerous.

(03:45):
So I'm not recommending you use galcimium. I never recommend it,
but I do think it is quite useful when used properly.
And I was pretty much awake all that night just
because of the pain. But apparently why I was laying down,
the sinus infection got into that exposed nerve and caused

(04:06):
a major infection. I mean, like in the blink of
an eye like. By the next morning, the glands of
my throat, the lymph nodes were all swollen and hard,
and I couldn't really swallow comfortably, and I was in
I was a lot of pain, of course, and running
just crazy high fevers.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
And I got through that day not really realizing understanding
what was going on, and so out of my own
ignorance or just being kind of out of it, I
let the infection really get bad.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I should have known better. I could have gotten some
Oregon grape root and used the berber and just held
it in my mouth and killed that infection right away.
Didn't understand, didn't know what was going on. You know,
you're not always your best doctor. So often times, especially
when you're really out of it, you need someone else

(05:03):
to say, you know, I think there's something going on here.
And I was at my mother's and she said, I
think you have a major infection. I think your two
has become infected. And I'm like, how did that happen?
How could it happen so quickly? She said, I don't know,
but you are a dentist right now, Well, there is
actually a friend of the family that who was a

(05:26):
retired dental surgeon who's really really good and he's like
he's in herbs. He's very conservative, he's Catholic, he's you know,
just a real solid guy and I trust him. He's
actually from Kuwait. He goes by the name of Sam,
but I mean his real name is a little hard
to pronounce apparently, but really cool guy. We we just

(05:48):
enjoy talking. And I sent him a text and I said,
you know, broke a tooth. I need to get fixed.
I mean a lot of pain. Can you recommend someone
because I really the whole issue with the tooth is
I went to a bad dentist when I was like
seven or eight years old. I went to a dentist

(06:10):
who just went to rip us off. And I had
perfect teeth, and he drilled one out and completely spent
hours doing it intense pain and filled it. And the
reason I have a broken tooth now is because he
did a bad job on an unnecessary filling. And you know,

(06:31):
I took one bite, the filling fell out, I took
another bite of the tooth shattered. It's that kind of thing.
So I didn't just want to, you know, open the
Yellow Pages or pull up Google and go to the
first dentist I saw. So I sent Sam a message
and I told him what was going on, and he said,
call me immediately, Like what you know? I mean, He's

(06:52):
like serious, right, call me immediately. And he said, tell
me what the described the pain to me. He said, Okay,
your nerves, He said, you're not talking very well. I'm
having trouble understanding what's going on. I said, well, all
the lymph nodes in my throat, you know, are swollowing up.
He said, you have a serious infection, and I'm calling

(07:14):
in a prescription for penicillin right now, or your alerts
of the penicillin. I said no. He said, I'm calling
it a prescription for penicillin right now because it can
go to your heart and you'll probably be dead by
tomorrow morning. That's not what he said, but that was
essentially his word. So I on my own would not
have really realized what was going on. Had I not

(07:34):
been to my mother's, you know, I probably would be dead.
She said, I think you have an infection. I got
in touch with Sam. Sam said, you have an infection.
So he still us a volunteer work at a clinic,
and he's going to get me in. He's going to
remove the tooth. He saw me on Thursday and he said,
this is really bad. The there was like a you know,

(07:59):
dental hygienesis something that took a look first, and she
said maybe you could have a root canal on a
bridge and I'm thinking, oh, no, I really don't want
to do that. He comes in, takes one look at
and says, this is really bad. It's got to go.
I'm pulling that tooth. But he said you have to
be on the antibiotic for several days because right now
the infection you could die. And it was interesting. I said,

(08:22):
how did you know? And he said, because I know you.
You're so calm, You're so laid back. You don't react
to things. What he meant with stoic, and I am
very stoic, often to my detriment. This is not the
first time something like this has happened. I mean, I've
got about an eight inch scar on my well, six
to eight inches. I don't want to ever boil it.
We'll go with six inches. A six inch scar on

(08:44):
my left arm. When I was like eighteen twenty no,
I was probably about twenty one. I was working at
a drug store. Glass shelf fell and sliced my arm
open to the bone. I mean it cut inches deep.
You could see the tendons. It was really bad, and
you know, me and the people I worked with got

(09:05):
a tourniquet on there and stopped the bleeding, and they
got me to the emergency room and the doctor that
who was on call didn't even give me an anesthetic.
He just stitched it up. And the whole time we're
just like, you know, joking and talking, and he thought
I was hilarious. I was, you know, probably high as
a kite from the pain. I mean, you know that
that happens, and you know, you don't really feel things

(09:26):
until later. But I am stoic, you know, I often,
to my detriment. I can get injured and I keep
working and the next day I realize I've broken a
bone or something that's not uncommon. So he says to me,
knowing you if you've said I'm in a lot of pain,
I knew you were in serious pain and you were
probably had an infection. So kind of saved my life.

(09:49):
Good guy. You know, y'all say a prayer for me
if if you don't mind, I'm going to go infidental surgery.
Two's going to have to go still running in fevers
right now. Still, you know, my voice isn't quite right.
I'm not really myself, So that's why I'm not gonna
do a long show. But I hope to do another
show next week. So if the tooth comes out Thursday,

(10:12):
god willing, by Sunday, I'll be able to talk again.
Who knows, really, but you know, it's just one of
those things, not a big deal, but you know, it's
been kind of a big deal for me because of
the infection and the fevers. Two three nights at least
without sleep, just running really high fevers, like I'd start

(10:34):
shivering and shaking so much my teeth were chattering, and
you don't want that with a broken two so I'd
have to literally stick my fingers in my mouth to
keep my teeth from chattering. It's actually been that bad.
And then i'd, you know, fifteen minutes later, I'm like
covered in sweat and I'm so hot i can't stand myself.
So it's been fun, you know, just say the least.

(10:54):
But anyway, now that that's out of the way, and
you understand why, I'm going to do a short show
and I'm not really myself today. I have an idea.
As y'all know, I have been recently re platformed on YouTube,
and I'm gradually growing the subscriber subscriber to my channel numbers.

(11:20):
You know, you got to hit five hundred or something. Yeah,
five hundred and like three thousand hours viewed before you
can monetize the channel. And you know, there's so many
videos that I watch on YouTube. I like a lot
of cooking shows, anything on foraging, anything on herbal medicine
of course, you know, wood carving, craftsmanship, pottery, outdoor stuff,

(11:42):
especially a lot of like you know, primitive skills. People
who just don't go out with a lot of equipment.
Maybe they make a fire with a flint and steel
or you know, pharaoh rod, whatever you want to call it, and.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Just like.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Put up a little tint or I mean a little tarp.
You don't mean to use a I mean just you
know kind of stuff I do, hunting and fishing and trapping,
you know, kind of my kind of stuff. There's several
guys on there that I really enjoy that I watch
a lot. And I kept to thinking, you know, I
had a lot of you know, I got a lot

(12:17):
of stuff in my head. I got a lot of
knowledge that I am part and I do a lot
of through the YouTube channel for herbal Medicine one on one.
That's one thing I do. Sometimes I'm teaching people to
play a tune on a guitar. I got my podcasts.
I've written a lot of books. I mean, like sixteen books.
I got a lot of stuff in there that I
want to share with people. But I also want to

(12:38):
have a successful YouTube channel. Now I'm not okay, what
are the most popular YouTube channels? Usually attractive young women
doing stuff? Okay, everybody likes pretty girls. I mean women
like to see other women when they look good, and
men like to see pretty girls. You know, that's just

(12:58):
the way we are. I'm a middle aged guy, and
my appeal is probably somewhat limited. I've got a pretty
big audience here on this channel. So it hit me.
Is someone who listens to my podcast an attractive young woman.
You don't have to be single. I'm not asking you

(13:20):
to do anything inappropriate or sexual or anything like that.
I'm not hitting on you. This isn't you know. There's
no ulterior motive here. Is there an attractive young woman
that listens to my show? Who really wants to learn
a lot of the stuff I know, like teaching you
how to garden or forage or keep chickens or you know,

(13:44):
butcher meat or cook or make pickles in sauerkraut, or
herbal medicine, or play an instrument, or fix a car,
or do plumbing or like any of the ten thousand
things I do. Right, start a fire with a bow drill.
You know, a stick and a string, you can actually

(14:04):
start a fire with that, or a resident lens, or
you know, any of the like, whether it's a homesteading skill,
whether it's herbal medicine, whether it's music, where it's cooking
or like you know, primitive survival skills. The stuff that
I do. Do you want to learn it? Well, I'll

(14:25):
teach you for free and you and I can partner.
What we would do is like do a ten to
fifteen minute video chat like a Zoom meeting or something.
Is Zoom the one that just went out of business?
I don't know, but you know, you know what I'm saying.
A ten to fifteen minute video chat like an online
meeting where I showed you how to do something and

(14:47):
we'll talk about before what it's going to be so
you know you're comfortable with it, and you tell me
what your interest is, so I'll teach you something you
really want to know. I mean it could be cooking
the perfect steak, or it could be, you know, building
a shelter, a log cabin, if you want to make
your own log cabin, I mean whatever, right, Yeah, I

(15:09):
mean from medicine, you name it right, herbs, I mean
herbal medicine. I'm not just saying for legal reasons, I'm
qualifying there or this is rbal medicine. Do you want
to learn something from me? Well, normally you either have
to listen to my podcast or read my books or
come take a class from me. And yeah, I charge
for my classes, you know, and I don't charge a lot,

(15:31):
but you know, spend a little money and do some travel. Well,
we could do a ten to fifteen minute video chat
meeting whatever you call it online meeting, and I can
show you how to do something and then you film
yourself doing it, and we could start our own YouTube channel.
Maybe do TikTok. Maybe I don't know. I'm not sure

(15:53):
what the statuses of TikTok. I don't want to do
something that supports a Chinese Communist Party. But if they're
you know, getting moving away from that and becoming privatized, okay,
maybe we can consider that. But at least YouTube, right,
it would be the channels like Judson teaches, so and so.
That's that's sort of like the working title. It's a

(16:13):
horrible title. Will come up with something better. But I
show you, I show you how to do something, I
talk you through it, you do it, you know, I
watch you, I give you advice, and basically we take
that video, we put it on YouTube, and you know,
you're a pretty girl and I know stuff, and I

(16:36):
think people would watch that, and I'll split the profits
fifty to fifty. It could actually really make a lot
of money. I mean, there are channels on YouTube. You know,
there are guys I watch that just go out in
the woods and make fire and cook a fish and
they got, you know, hundreds of thousands or a million subscribers,

(16:58):
and they're making tens of thousands of dollars a year.
I mean, really like even hundreds of thousands off these videos.
Or you need some work, you need some money, you
want to work, it's it's you know, you're gonna have
to do your part. You'll have to promote it, just
like I will. You know, I'll begin by promoting it
to my audience, which is pretty big, thousands of people.

(17:21):
But you'll have to do your part and you'll have
to actively market, you know, becoming a YouTube personality. That
that's part of it. But it's just like I teach
you how to do something, you do it. We take
the video, we put it online, and we split the
money fifty to fifty, fifty to fifty. I mean, you know, literally,

(17:41):
you get mine entire collection of knowledge and all you
have to do is film yourself doing it tastefully. I'm
not looking for anything weird here. You need a job.
Somebody out there is there attractive young looking for a position,

(18:02):
and I'm you know this is sexist. Yeah, I'm sorry,
but that's YouTube. I mean, you want to see the
videos that get the most views. It's like some you know,
hot girl in a bikini fishing. That's just the way
it is. I can go out and catch the same fish.
Nobody's gonna watch me, Okay, it's you know, it is

(18:23):
what it is. You know, that's reality. And I'm not
offering This is not one of those things where I
put out a job listening and I'm discriminating or something. No,
this is would you like to partner with me in
a YouTube video enterprise if you have these qualifications and

(18:44):
a sincere desire to learn. I'm understanding. It's just like
a modeling job, just like an acting job that looks
actually do matter. And is that fair? No, it's probably
not fair. I'm not saying it is. But that's YouTube.
That's the way it is. Sorry, and it cuts both ways.

(19:08):
Did the reason you know I can't get a million
views catching a fish is I'm not an attractive girl
by any means I must, you know, six four and
twenty pound. He'llbilly uh forty eight years old soon forty
seven right now, forty eight in August. But you know

(19:28):
what I'm saying. And if this interests you, just send
me an email seriously, just Judson at Judson Carrol dot
com or Southern Appalachian Herbs at gmail dot com. If
we get you know, two or three people interested, I'll
just kind of chat with you a little bit and see,
you know who has sort of you know, it'd be

(19:51):
more like commonality, like how much of what I do
are you interested in? And you know personality as well.
You know, do you are you a likable person? I'm sorry,
not everybody's likable, and that really comes across on camera.
A lot of shows I'll see on television and I

(20:12):
just turned because one of the people in there's just
like so unlikable. There's one of those like house flipping
shows and the woman on there is like, so man,
she makes Hillary Clinton look like a poodle. I won't
watch it, even though, like one time they were doing something,
I'm like, oh, I need to learn how to do that.
I need to, you know, do this feature in my home.
Well she was so awful. I just like, you know,

(20:35):
so personality does matter. Looks matter, but really it's gonna
be do we click? You know? Are you interested in
what I'm interested in teaching? Are you competent and you
can make mistakes? I mean that's gonna be a part
of it. A lot of it's gonna be me making mistakes,
and you make mistakes because people like to see that,
they see your real people. But you know, are you

(20:59):
intelligent enough to understand what I'm saying And I'm sure
everybody listening to this show is, And then are you
willing to do the work willing to do the work
to promote it. And yeah, it's a job. It's a
job doing a podcast, it's a job doing a video channel.
I spent a few hours a day on social media
and different things promoting my work. I'll spend a year

(21:22):
writing a book hundreds of pages and put a ton
of effort into it. It doesn't sell itself. I got
to go out there and I've got to sell it.
So are you willing to actually put the effort in?
And if you are, and if he sounds like a
good idea, send me an email. Like I said, just
totally above board. It doesn't matter to me your relationship

(21:45):
status or you know, anything like that. I'm not looking
for a date. I'm looking for somebody to partner to
make some videos that we can sell. So think about it.
If if you if it's you or you know somebody,
you have a friend, you know, maybe you're got a
daughter in college and you know you want her to

(22:06):
learn some practical skills and making some money. You know
that's an idea, right, Or you're in your twenties or
you know whatever, early thirties. I guess, I don't know,
maybe you're a little older than that. I mean, you
know whatever, but if this sounds like something you could
see yourself doing, like yeah, I can do this, and

(22:28):
I'm confident, and people would want to look at me
and watch me and all that. You know. I don't
know how girls think. I don't know how women think.
I know some would be comfortable doing that, some would
find it offensive, and some are probably in the middle.
And I'm not looking for anybody in a bikini. I'm
not looking for models or anything like that. You put

(22:49):
on normal clothes and do normal stuff. This is you know,
it's not exploitative or however you pronounce that word. But anyway,
just you know, drop me a line if you think
you're in interested. Now let's get on with the urba
and we are talking about hydrangia. There are three varieties
of Hydrangea that are native to my region. There's wild

(23:11):
Hydrangea or smooth hydrangea, ashy hydrangea, and silver leaf hydrangea.
Now we also have the oak leaf hydrangea, which is naturalized.
The hydrangers have been used traditionally native American erbalism and
really an American folk medicine. Not much used in herbal
medicine these days due to potential toxicity. Nineteen thirties England,

(23:37):
Miss Greeb said that they were using Hydrangea in British
herbal medicine as well, and they were using those that
were native to their region of course, that actually grew
in marshes. Now are hydrangers grow all over the place.
We have them in the mountains, we am in the coast,
I mean, we have our hydrangers are much more widespread apparently,

(23:59):
she said. Had four of the known species that were
used in British medicine, though, were natives of America and
one from Japan. So there are a lot of hydranges,
you know, I think most people know this plant. It
can look very much like viburnum sometimes, but usually it's
a bush with these big like palm palm puffball flowers.

(24:24):
But they're actually, you know, made up of many small
flowers like four rats, like an umbel almost and they
are usually white in nature, but it depends on the
pH of the soil, depending on whether your soil is
more alkaline or more acidic, they can be blue. My
grandmother loved to grow blue hydranges that she would actually

(24:46):
alter the soil pH to grow blue hydranges. Absolutely associate
that flower with her. That was her like hobby. Basically,
they can be pink, they can be purple, they can
be red. Totally depends. Basically, a hydrangea is like a
you know, a pH test strip. If you look at

(25:08):
the hydrangen you used to see its color. You know
the vicinity or alkalinity of that soil, and you can
alter it by putting eggshells down, or oyster shells or
your coffee grounds, or you know, you can take it
one way or the other. Really interesting in that the

(25:29):
way it works. But most times when we spot them
in the wild, they're gonna be white. Now, the most
commonly used, probably in Native American medicine, is the hydrangea
arbor rints. I think it's the way you pronounce it.
It's a R b O R e n S c

(25:49):
E n s and it has appealing bark. The bark
peels off in layers, and it's commonly no seven bark.
The that's really most often the one you're gonna see,
uh used and it Yeah, we'll get into that one
here specifically a second. But the medicinal actions and uses,

(26:14):
especially the one called seven mark diuretic cathartic and tonic.
Diuretic means removes excess fluids. Cathartic means it basically cleans
out it's gonna give you diarrhea, you know. And tonic
means it's good for the digestion. But it also has
a lot more uses. Decoctions are said to have been
used with great advantage by the Cherokee Indians and later

(26:37):
by the settlers for calculous diseases. That means urinary and
kitty stones, gravel, you know whatever. It does not cure
the stone in the bladder, but as demonstrated by the
medical profession doctor S. W. Butler of Burlington, New Jersey,
showed that it removes gravelly deposits and release the pain

(26:59):
consequent to their emission. He actually this is almost unthinkable.
One of his patients he used the seven bark hydrangea
to get rid of kidney and bladder and stones and whatever.
One hundred and twenty stones from one person in one episode. Now,

(27:23):
I've never had kidney stone anything like that. Have family
members who have. They have said they're quite painful. Talking
to a fellow the other day, he said, he walked
into I think it was firehouse. Subs gets out of
his truck just fine, suddenly had a pain like basically
said he'd felt he'd been kicked in the testicles, you know.

(27:45):
And then he started running a fever and within a
couple hours was incapacitated in the hospital. Days of agony
and treatment finally passed one stone with tons of bloody
dark and pasted out. Okay, one stone. This patient of

(28:07):
doctor Butler in Burlington, New Jersey had one hundred and twenty.
I don't even know how that person survived, but anyway,
she says, the fluid extract is principally used for earthy deposits. Again,
she's talking about those stones. Alkaline, urine, chronic gleat and
mucosiricutations of the bladder, especially an age aged person's older people,

(28:32):
combined with a concentration of syrup of honey or sugar.
Simple decoction of the root was used in large doses.
It causes vertigo, oppression of the chest meaning like a pressure,
and reduced respiration. And she says the leaves are said

(28:52):
to be tonic, sylagogue, cathartic, and diarrhea diuretic. Sorry the
Cherokee as with said or where we learned the use
of seven mark. In a Cherokee herbal written in the
nineteen twenties, it says it was used as an ingredient,
an ingredient, as you could tell my tongue and throat

(29:15):
are still very swollen for disordered bile. Also used as
an ingredient in the medicine for menstruating women who dream
of giving birth to animals or unnatural beings. Now I've
told you before, traditional Cherokee medicine as documented in the

(29:35):
early nineteen hundreds late eighteen hundreds is a little odd,
a lot of things in there that we wouldn't really
think of as modern herbalists. But apparently there was some
I guess psychological condition. They thought it had spiritual causes
that would cause a woman to dream of giving birth
to animals or unnatural beings, especially while menstruating. I have

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absolutely no clue what would cause that. I could understand
it would be quite disturbing, But they had a lot
of cares for that. Yeah, on both herbs and incantations.
Weird stuff, in my opinion, very very weird stuff. But hey,
I'm not a woman, as we just discussed, so anyway.

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It was also used to stop vomiting in children, from
eighteen months to ten years old, using a tea made
of the inner barque. It was used externally bound on,
using the fresh scraped bark for burns or risings or swellings, inflammations,
and a poultice was made for sore and swollen muscles.

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In the eighteen sixties, the French botanists who worked for
the Confederacy documented in Resources of the Southern Fields and
Forests that it was a particularly good treatment for gravel
and stones. And again he talks about how it was
learned from the Cherokee, and he also quotes doctor Butler
again the one hundred and twenty stones. I mean, that's

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just like probably a world record, so I guess a
lot of people knew about it. But Hydrangea he gives
actually the doctor Butler's formula, which is interesting. He said,
sixteen ounces of hydrange of bark. Now, this is the
seven bark. Specifically that one made into a decoction with

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six pints of water, boiled down and then mixed until
it evaporated until about half a pint and within mix
I meant to say, with two pints of honey and
then boiled again and evaporated to about you could deceive
two pints. So you boil a decoction down to about
a pint or I'm sorry, half pint, and then mixed

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with two pints of honey and boiled down again until
it's a pint. And it was taken as by a
teaspoonful two to three times a day. And let's see
if we got anything more modern here. Well, eighteen ninety
eight King's Medical Dispensatory describes it goes into detail about

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chemical composition. We don't need to get into that right now,
but under medicinal uses and actions, which just jumped away
from me as I went to it. I think the
track pad on this laptop is a little funky. Well, anyway, well,
it says the plant introduced the profession by doctor Butler. Again,

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they go through the same story one hundred and twenty bladderstones,
urinary stones pretty bad. I can't emphasize too much how bad.
But they talk about specific for urinary gravel and let's
see also used. Let's see there more uses good remedy

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for acute fritis. It's a kidney condition. The specific hydrange
and fluid extractor principally used for earthy deposits phosphates of calcium, ammonium, magnesium.
Again we're talking stones, alkaline in the urine, chronic gleat
and mucous irritation of the bladder and aged persons. Its
alternative powers, chiefly due to its washing away of strummers

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and other unhealthy products, are not to be underrated. Alternative
means it gradually brings you back to health. It is
not without some value in bronchial pulmonic affections in other words,
chest complaints, congestion, and such as that relieving irritation. Also
in some forms of gastric irritation. Specific indication uses vesicle

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and urethral irritation, gravelly deposits, difficult nation, bloody urine, deep
seated renal pain, hepatic pain, irritation of the bronchial tract.
It improves the nutrition of the urinary mucous tissue. More modern,
I guess we're probably the nineteen twenties je through closs.
So this is an old remedy that's very valuable in

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bladder troubles. It will remove and help prevent the formation
of bladder zones and I don't see okay. Also helps
with back ache caused by kidney trouble, good for chronic rheumatism, paralysis,
scurvy and dropsy, mild diuretic. The arabaks differently in different people.
That's also true. That's one reasons it's not used very

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much in herbal medicine now, but it is still very useful.
In some it may act as a laxative. Therefore, it's
better to start with smaller doses and to increase them
slowly as needed. Modern a really good book called The
Medicinal Plants of Southern Appalachis is the American indue use

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hydrange of bark as a poultice for burns, ulcers of rashes.
Bark was chewed to relieve high blood pressure. That's one
use we haven't discussed before, and also for stomach problems.
In folk medicine, wild hydrangea was used extensively in treating
kidney problems including blood in the urine, kidney stones, and infections.
Herbless Tommy Bass from Georgia overlid heavily on the wild

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hydrangea to treat gallbladder problems, kidney stones, dramatic inflammation, gout,
and liver congestion. So really, I mean, that's a lot
of use we haven't discussed now Botany and Da says
the fresh leaves contain a cyanide, but some species are
dried and powdered and us as a tea as actually
as a tea sweetener. You can actually dry and power
the leaves of some hydrangea and use it like you

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would stevia or something medicially. The roots are emetic and
cathartic vomiting and diarrhea if you need to purge your system.
This is actually for when you would want to have
such a set Diaphoretic means help with a fever, diuretic
antlementic reduce fever and gets rid of excess fluid and
can get rid of intestinal parasites. The plant might contain

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an anti malarial alkaloid. Very interesting. Peterson Field guides as
wild Hydrangea, American Indians used the root tea is a diuretic,
cathartic emetics scrape bark, poltice on wounds, sore muscles, sprains, tumors,
bark chewed for stomach problems, heart trouble. Root traditionally used
for kidney stones, mucous irritation, and bladder and bronchial affections.

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Warning experiment. Experimentally, it may cause bloody diarrhea, painful gas, centeritis,
and a cyanide like poisoning cell. Be large doses, and
the cyanid apparently send the leafs. So we're not talking
the root or the bark in that case, No, don noah,
But you know, obviously you'd want to be very careful
in that now. Physicians desk reference verbal medicine says the

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drug has a diuretic effect. Hydrangeurs use for the treatment
of conditions of the urinary tract, particularly the bladder and
kidney stones. No health hazards or side effects are known
in conjunction with the proper administration of designated therapeutic dosages.
According to information older medical literature, the take of larger
dosages can lead to dizzeyness, feelings of constriction of the

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chest and the central nervous system, and central nervous system disorders.
So even the physician's desk repherence urbal medicine, the doctor's
reference says pretty safe, probably don't absolutely don't use this
when during pregnancy. It could be very dangerous. Not one
to just use without any caution, one to research and

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use when necessary. If you have an issue with kidney
and bladderstone, you might want to really look into it.
You know, plantains really good. There's so many herbs plantainum, dandelion,
and and doc, and a lot of them can be
really well. Doc actually has that oh what's the name

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of it. There's a compound in docks and sorels that
can actually cause kidney stones. But usually, yeah, Plantain's really good,
Burdock's really good, verious formulas. Hydrangea salmon mark specifically may
not be your go to, but it's definitely worth researching
and knowing. It has a lot of good uses and

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they are very pretty. I have at least four varieties
of wild hydranger that grow in my yard. One of
them is a vining hydranger that is absolutely maddening. It is.
It's worse than kudzoo basically. I mean literally, I'll start
pulling one up and the vine goes one hundred yards
under the ground. I mean this just you cannot or

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you couldn't eradicate them if you tried. But fortunately that
makes for a lot of good basket weaving material, which
is a good use. So look into hydrangers and you
may find them a nice hobby as my grandmother did.
Growing hydrangs really cool. I will tell you if you
do have hydrangs, they seem to attract Jehovah's witnesses. I

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cannot tell you how many times someone has come knocking
on my door and saying, you have such beautif why
drangers which you might have cut a few flowers. Now,
let me please tell you about the watchtower, and like, okay, yeah,
y'all take some flowers if you want, but I'm not
interested in your wackado doctrines. Appreciate you, appreciate your genuine

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interest in and your good heart and all that. But
this this is real nutball stuff. But anyway, y'all have
a go. I'll talk you next time.

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