Show 265: Vitex

Today, I tell you about the medicinal and culinary properties of Vitex, agnus castus, Monk's Pepper or Chaste Bush.  This common ornamental shrub has interesting medicinal properties that affect hormonal balance and can be used for injuries.
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
The name down to the clan, the clan to the.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Hey, y'all, welcome this week's show. Today we're going to
talk about a remarkably interesting plant, this one. It's called
vitex and you've probably seen it before, but maybe you're
not totally familiar with it. It's also called, especially an

(01:51):
old herbal medicine, monks pepper. Now, this is interesting. Why
would it be called monks pepper? Latin name is Agnes castis. Now,
this is a fairly popular plant. It's also called chaste tree.
That may give you a little clue why it's called

(02:13):
monk's pepper. It's a into a fairly large bush. I mean,
you know, it's a shrub. It'll get up to I
don't know, six feet tall, maybe eight feet. The leaves
are slender and sharply pointed. They almost look a little
bit like a marijuana leaf, but not. They're smooth, not jagged,

(02:34):
not as close together, but they could kind of resemble that.
The flowers are a beautiful blue, like Russian sage. And
it's a very popular ornamental plant. You'll see it in hedges,
you'll see it in people's yards. There was once used
very differently than it is today. Back when it was

(02:54):
called monk's pepper or chaste tree, the seed was used
by soldiers and monks to reduce sexual desire. Now the
herb is more used by women for the effect on hormones.
Far more often, though it's simply just planting. It's an
ornamental and the value is absolutely unknown to the landowner.

(03:16):
This is one of those that you could scout in
your neighborhood and keep an eye on. And you always
want to get permission to go on somebody else's land.
I mean, you've got to follow the law. I'm not
going to tell you to just go trespassing on somebody's property.
But you're probably not going to find this in the wild.
You're going to see it in the suburbs. You're going

(03:38):
to see it in residential areas, streets and yards. And
when it goes into seed. When it goes to seed,
I should say lake fall. Really about now, it should
be in seed, maybe a little bit earlier, depending on
where you live. It's really no big deal. Just take
a paperbag and go shake off some of those seats.

(04:01):
But like I said, you probably ought to ask permission.
But you know, if you can reach it from the road,
or from the sidewalk. Really nobody can stop you. Really
in most I know this is a case in North Carolina,
it was in Virginia. Most everywhere I've lived, about ten

(04:21):
feet from the edge of the road onto someone's property
is actually considered a public right of way. That's why
people can park on the side of the road and
you can't do anything about it, even if they're in
front of your house. You know, if you happen to
live in a residential area, not the case where I
live on gravel roads, but you know, if you happen
to live where you have a county and state and

(04:42):
city maintain roads, that's considered a right of way and
no one can really stop you if you want to
harvest something from that area. But of course, the same
rules apply with all of our urban and suburban foraging,
wildcraft or whatever you want to call it. Be careful

(05:02):
about you know, if it's too close to the road,
it could get run off from the road, if it's
in a parking lot, if it's planted ornamentally in a
parking lot, it can be a lot of chemicals, and
you know, oil and anaphreeze and all kinds of stuff.
Even tire residue, which is actually pretty nasty stuff that
can get on there, contaminate it, you know, really contaminate
the soil and be inside the plant. Because we're talking

(05:26):
of the seed, and because it's taller bush, I wouldn't
be as concerned with vitex. But still you want to
use common sense. It never harms anything like on a
golf course where it's has been sprayed with tons of
chemical fertilizers and pesticides, or the edge of an agricultural
field or an overly manicured lawn. Now, again, because this

(05:47):
is a shrub and because we're harvesting and seeds which
are higher up, I'm not really worried about stuff sprayed
on grass depending on what it is. You know, obviously,
if it can get down to the roots of the
plant and contaminate the plant, you got an issue. So
you know, just use common sense on that. But really,
this plant has a remarkable history. It was actually mentioned

(06:08):
by Homer and the Iliad as a symbol for chastity.
The hormonal effects of the chaste bush have been over
thousands of years. It was discussed by Theophrastus and the
most full account of this medicinal value recording the ancient
Greek literature in Rome comes from discorities. He said. Agnes

(06:31):
or vitex is a shrub almost as high as a tree,
bearing long sprigs, growing near and in watery fields, in
rough and unevil even places. It is hard to break
that is true. It's very hard to break off a
stem of itexs. Try it sometime, you really, if you
do go out harvesting and you want to take a stem,
like to make a cutting or something, take a pair

(06:51):
of clippers. You're not going to be able to break
it off cleanly. You're just stand there and twist and
twist and twist, and eventually someone's going to come out
and ask you what you're doing until you to leave.
He says. The leaves are similar to that at the
olive tree. Yes, they do have that kind of similar shape,
yet are more tender and bigger. Some of not always true.
They're not always bigger on the the ones we use

(07:13):
for ornamental plantings these days. But they do resemble an
olive leaf. Yeah. Some of them bear white flowers inclining
to purple and other purple flowers, and the seed is
like that of pepper. Now the reason one of the
other reasons called Monk's pepper is it was literally used
as a pepper substitute. He says, it is warming and
a stringent, and the fruit taken as a drink helps

(07:34):
those stung by snakes and the splenetic or those who
had inflamed spens spleens and those would drop. See it
is it's a good diuretic. A tea spoonful taken as
a drink in wine brings down the milk. Yes, like
I said, this is hormonal effects. It can is actually
a galactagog, meaning that it increases breast milk and expels

(07:57):
the minstrel flow. Again, it has those hormonal properties, and
it does bring on minsis it destroys generation? Now he
said that basically was using the ancient world as a
form of birth control, not necessarily. It was probably more
of the bringing on of minsis, So it was being

(08:17):
used for and of course that would could be. Well,
you've got the gist, and he said, it is rubbed
on the head to bring on a deep sleep. Now
that's an interesting use. I have never been able to
find out exactly how or why that works or even
if it works. Again, he said, steeped seed in wine

(08:41):
rubbed on the head would help increase sleep. I haven't
tried it. I haven't encountered anyone who has. So that's
what we're gonna have to look into. Decoction of the
herb and seed is good for a hip bath for
disorders and inflammation around the womb. The seed taken in
a drink with pooh something I don't even recognize, and

(09:03):
I know most of this old stuff. Hmm. Well, anyway,
the seed taking in a drink or the smoke in
hailed causes purgation, so it could actually I wonder what
that pull p U L E G I U M.
Maybe we can look that up real quick, because I mean,

(09:24):
you know, he said in wine it did one thing,
but taken with this it causes diarrhea apparently. Pull polygium
polygium hmm. What does Google say? Polygium is Oh, it's
a mento polygium penny royal. There you go. Polygium is

(09:46):
an old term for penny royal. One of the stronger mints,
actually has some liver toxicity, can cause a miscarriage. Yeah,
I could probably give you the ones. Let's try not
to try that one. I don't think now. Penny royal
is natural state is nowhere near as dangerous as an

(10:08):
essential oil penny royal, of course. I mean you can
be used medicinally and a little bit used culinarily. It's
not necessarily gonna hurt, but it is one of the
mits that's so strong that it does have some toxicity. Says.
It dissolves headache as applied as a poultice, and is
gently poured on the lethargic and mentally ill with vinegar

(10:31):
and oil. Hey, I guess it beats shock therapy. But
someone mentally ill having oil and vinegar oiled poured on
their head with the chase tree plant, it might relax them,
or they might if their apparentoid schizophrenic might freak them out.

(10:52):
I'm thinking. But anyway, the leaves either smoked or inhaled,
and inhaled or scattered around drive away venomous creatures, So
I guess the snakes have to inhale the smoke anyway,
scattered around drive away venomous creatures, and applied as a poultice.
They help those stung by such beasts. So if you're
bitten by a venous snake or spider, it's supposed to help.

(11:14):
I don't know. Applied with butter and vine leaves, they
soothe hardness of the testes. They seeds smeared on with
water lessened cracks in the perineum, and with the leaves
it heals dislocated joints and wounds. Really interesting use. It
must have some tightening astringent type quality. Again, that's something

(11:37):
I haven't explored, but we need to look into that.
It is thought to be a preventative for chafing and blisters.
If anyone is he travels holds a rod of it
in his hand, that's probably just folklore and superstition. But again,
give it a shot. Get a stem from a vitex bush.
Agnes castis chase tree, whatever, Monk's pepper, Everyone call it

(12:01):
and hold it in your hand while you're walking and
see if you have fewer blisters. I doubt you will,
but I'm not willing to dismiss something out of hand
if I haven't tried it. It is called agnes because
in the Sacrifices to series, the chase matrons use it
for sprinkling under them, and it is called ligos, that

(12:22):
is venom because the difficulty of breaking the stems. As
I said, they are quite hard to break, is also
called well always gets into all kinds of different what
the Egyptians call it, what the Romans call it, you know,
et cetera, et cetera. And by this time it was
also known as lagusticum, which is also a fairly common

(12:46):
modern name for it. Oddly enough, although vitex was known
to have been widely used by monks, it's largely absent
from their writings. You do not find a lot of
mention of monks pepper in the writings of bunks. Likely
it was you know, lower that was passed down through
oral tradition, but wasn't really used in monastic medicine, because

(13:11):
while the monks themselves used it to promote chastity, it
lowers the libido most people coming to them for help
in that regard, we're looking to go in the other direction,
just like they are today with you know, all the
fiagar and stuff sold on television. But also, interestingly enough,

(13:31):
the plant does have some aphrodisiac effects, especially for women,
so there may have been another reason why it was
not included in a lot of the monastic medicine of
the Middle Ages. I can't find any mention in fact
of vitex in German folk medicine.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
But.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Really in a lot of the writings of Central Europe.
But though in England it was well known Gerard fifteen
hundreds England says that well again he goes through a
lot of names. What the Grecians call it, and all that. Yeah,
skipead skip heead skip ahead. He says, the virtues agnes

(14:12):
castis is a singular medicine and remedy for such as
would willingly live chaste, for it withstandeth all uncleanliness or
desire the flesh, confirming and drying up the seed of generation.
In what sort soever it be taken, whether in powder only,
or did a coction be drunk, or whether the leaves
be carried about the body for which it was called castis,

(14:34):
that is to say, chase clean and pure. So you know,
if you were a monk or soldier, sailor or whatever
in the Middle Ages, that would be quite useful, Probably
could be quite useful today. But that's not exactly something
that's desired in our culture, is it. Chastity is not
exactly selling products on television. The seed of the cast

(14:57):
as he says, I remember this is a little bee
than English so stick with me. I'll try to pronounce
as best I can. Drunketh delivered the seed. Drunketh delivereth
away and dissolveth all windiness of the stomach or gas.
In other words, openeth in cureth the stoppings that deliver
and the spleen and the beginning of dropsies. It is

(15:19):
good to be drunken wine in the quality of a dram.
The leaves stamped with butter, that means mashed together with butter,
dissolve and assuage the swellings of the jenitories and CODs
being applied there too, um reduces testicular inflammation. The decoction
of the herb and seed is good against the pain

(15:40):
and inflammations of the matrix. What is the matrix, you
may ask, has nothing to do with the movie. It's
another word for the womb. Essentially, if women be caused
to sit and bathe their privy parts. Therein the seed
being drunk with Penny Royal bringeth down the mint seeds. Again,
we're seeing it combined with Pennyroyal. It could be extremely

(16:03):
dangerous for pregnant women. Women. Of course, she's not looking
to bring on administration, but you want to be very
careful with penny royal, as I said many times, and
in a poltice at Kurth headache, the frantic and those
who have lethargy are wont to be bathed here with
with oil and vinegar being added there too. So if

(16:24):
you find a frantic person and you can apply salad
dressing with monks pepper seeds to their heads, you tell
me if that works. You know, growing up in a
hippie town, a lot of a lot of college town hippietown,

(16:47):
a lot of people had some bad trips, so we
shall say. And there were a lot of paranoid schizophrenics
that I grew up with in school and out in
the community. And I just don't think it would be
a good idea to grab a and try to apply
salad dressing to their head. But you know who knows.
He says, the leaves used in fume and also strewn

(17:09):
driveaway serpents and being laid unto to cure their bitings.
The seed laid on the water doth heat the clefts
or rifts of the fundament with its leaves. Fundament disaperaneum again,
so this is he's actually just repeating what Diascord, he said,
He said, the leaves are a remedy for limbs out

(17:30):
of joint and for wounds. I would definitely try that.
You know, I have a tendency to be a little
too reckless with things and get both broken bones and
dislocations and sprains and such. Maybe I can get that
a try next time. Hopefully I never have another dislocated knee.
I've popped my blown out my knee almost completely and

(17:54):
twice in the last three years. Anything that will help
reduce that inflammation and tighten up the joint would be
quite good. It is reported that if such a he
again says Carrie, a branch of it in your hand.
So Gerard basically just repeats what discority said, but in
less clear language. I think you did add a little

(18:17):
to it, maud Greve, though in the English tradition nineteen thirties,
apparently it had mostly fallen out of use. Because she
describes a deciduous shrub the leaves opposite. We don't need
to get into all that was used in the Sacred
Rights of series in Athens. Again we've covered that, but

(18:41):
medicinal actions are used to she says, the fresh ripe
berries are pounded into a pulp and used as a
tincture for the relief of paralysis, pain in the limbs,
and weakness. Now that's interesting. Now, of course you're talking
fresh ripe berries, so we're talking more like probably all
is September to go out and harvest. So let's put

(19:03):
it with mark our calendars and used for paralysis, pain
in the limbs, weakness, et cetera. That's a very interesting use,
and that's one we haven't encountered before. As I mentioned before,
it seems most herbalists in most cultures and eras had
very little interest in herbs that promote chastis. I can

(19:25):
find no mention of vitex in early American herbalism. You know,
human nature is what it is. But I have found
vitexts listed in plants for a future. It's his medicinal
use of Agnes castis agnus castis has been used for
thousands of years for its beneficial effect on the female

(19:45):
hormonal system. Modern research has confirmed this use, the seeds
being used to restore balanced function to the female reproductive system.
The seeds and fruits are afrid are an aphrodisia, or
in other words, the opposite of an afrodisiac but also aphrodisiac.

(20:06):
They list both. Now what does that mean. I think
it's more of an afrodisiac for women, in an aphrodisiac
for men, or anti afridisiac. Or it could depend on
one's hormonal balance and constitution. I don't know. Galactic glog
galactagog increases milk ophthalmlic. It can be used as an eyewash,

(20:28):
soothing to the eyes, sedative, systematic, and good for women's complaints.
Prolonged usage restores corpus luteum function, so it actually really
does have some good uses in minstrual issues. Unfortunately, the
berries are unlikely to be produced in the British climate.
That is true that the plant is more of a

(20:53):
hot weather more of a Mediterranean plant. It does form
berries here in the American South, and I need to,
I guess start collecting them because it is very useful.
The barriers of the plant have a range of medicinal actions,
but possibly the most important is the ability to rectify
hormonal imbalances caused by an excess of estrogen and an

(21:13):
insufficiency of progesterone. It acts upon the pituitary gland, reducing
the production of certain hormones and increasing the production of others,
shifting the balance in favor of gestygens gestogens. I guess
gestage ns as I often say, I am not an

(21:34):
expert in women's heerbalism. If you know that term, whatever,
look it up. I don't know. Thus, it has a
wide application of uses in malfunctions of the female reproductive system,
and has been used with great effect in restoring absent menstruation,
regulating heavy periods, for restoring fertility when this is caused
by hormonal imbalance, relieving pre menstrual tension, and easing the

(21:58):
change of menopause. Cautions advice its excessive doses can cause
a nervous disorder known as formication. Boy, I read that
worder on the first time f O R M I
C I f O r M I C A T
I O N, which manifests as a sensation of insects

(22:21):
crawling over the skin. Never a good thing. So don't
use this in large doses. You do not want to
have that feeling. A lot of those people I mentioned
that paranoid, schizophrenia and various things would experience that and
freak out. And I don't think bathing their head in

(22:41):
salad oil at that time would be a good idea.
The so don't use this on large amounts. You don't
want the feeling of insects crawling over your skin, which
is called formication. Interestingly odd the berries are considered to
be an aphrodisiac, though other reports say they they are
in an aphrodisiac. The reason for this apparent disagreement is

(23:05):
that the berries have a regulating effect on the body
and so are likely to increase sexual activity in those
who are not very active in this area, whilst reducing
it in those who are very active. Now that's interesting.
So it's essentially an adaptogenetic type property, but more opposite way. Actually,

(23:27):
it's very interesting. The fresh berries are pounded to a
pulp and used in the form of tincture for the
release of releef of paralysis, pains in the limbs, weakness,
et cetera. Other interesting uses for this herb are culinary.
Vitex is in the verbena family. It is quite bitter
and the seeds are somewhat of a pepper substitute. I mean,

(23:51):
I imagine this plant would have been quite useful to
crease sexual desire for the monks you used, especially as
They also grew eight gardens of hops for their beer.
Beer in the Middle Ages was consumed with every meal
and between every meal, because the water was a sanitary
and hops have an estrogenic effect and sedative. Additionally, they

(24:13):
grew lavender for the officena and used the culinary herb
both as sedative and it s mildly estrogenic. So we
can imagine by an end of a hard day of prayers, gardening, writing,
and caring for the sick, these monks were so relaxed
that they had little desire for anything but sleep. Very
practical people were those monks. So anyway, called you may

(24:35):
have found you probably have found a new use for
a plant that's either growing in your yard or down
the street from you. Definitely worth looking into. You know,
last week we discussed by Burnham cramp bark and how
it can be used for all kinds of menstal issues. Really,
these two bushes, these two shrubs put together, would cover

(24:57):
such a huge range of what they call, you know,
female issues. But I could also have I mean this
for swellings and dislocations and all. This seems like a
good one. We need to really explore this one a
lot more. I haven't used by text myself. You know,

(25:17):
usually I just tell you about herbs I have used.
But you know by Burnham very good for muscle cramping.
You know it's not just for minstrel cramping. So that
one I know pretty well. I I texts I always
looked at as you know, I'm a single guy. I'm
not a monk. I probably don't need Monk's pepper, but
I hadn't really thought about its uses for dislocated joints.

(25:41):
And yeah, that's something I really have needed. So God
willing this knee of mine will stay in place. I've
been doing some slow rehab on it again since it
fell off a ladder about a year ago and popped
it out the second time. I've just located both shoulders
twice on the left and three times on the right.

(26:04):
You may say what's wrong with you by keep you
in your shoulders just located. I'm a very tall guy
with long arms, and when I was a kid playing
football and rugby or even basketball, my arms tend to
get tangled up in somebody tackling or somebody you know whatever,
rushing past, and yep, that shoulder get just ripped out
of joint. After that you know, later when I started weightlifting,

(26:31):
I'd be bench pressing, and I'm my joints and bones
are such that I tend to be much stronger than
most people. It's not so much a matter of muscle mass.
I mean, I'm a fairly solid guy, but I have
these like really long bones, right, So I mean I'd
be bench pressing three fifty four hundred and four hundred

(26:51):
and fifty pounds, and even with a spotter, they wouldn't know, Neil,
one of us would expect it. I'd be going along,
going long, get up there and suddenly shoulder pop out, joint, boom,
barfall on my chest, break a couple of ribs. Again,
playing sports and different things on the farm, I've dislocated

(27:12):
several fingers and toes. Yeah, i'd be Actually, I could
probably list more bones I've broken and joints have dislocated
than those I haven't. It's just life in the countryside
if you're a you know, tall slender guy. So yeah,

(27:33):
I am definitely going to look into by techs Agnus
cast as monks Pepper or whatever you want to call
it for that purpose, especially, and I'm thinking about maybe
combining with Arnica and you know, maybe a few other
herbs specifically to use in that situation to bring down inflammation.

(27:56):
It says it actually tightens the dislocated to loose joint.
That's one of the biggest problems when you do dislowcate
a joint. There's for the first few days, there's a
lot of swelling, and that's you know, it's actually a
protective thing your body does. It actually helps keep it
from slipping out again. But after the swelling goes down

(28:18):
and the bruising starts to subside, that joint can pop
back out very easily before you can strengthen the muscles
and tighten the tins around it to hold it back
into place. So I mean that's really the biggest issue.
I mean, it hurts like crazy when it first happens,
but after that you just like for weeks even months,

(28:39):
you like with my knee, I was walking with a
cane having to be so careful because that knee would
just slip right up back out again and do all
that tissue damage again. So anything that can really tighten
that tissue, along with maybe some comforty to help with
the healing process, I can totally see that. Yeah. Anyway, Yeah,

(29:01):
I'm thinking this as a very useful plant. I have
two that I've been growing in some pots. Come to
think of it, You know, when you're growing shrubs like
that and like buckets, they just sit out back and
don't really think about them. Thinking on one experiment with
this plant, at some point, I think, yeah, next year,

(29:22):
it'll be time to gather some of those seeds and
let's see what it does for soft tissue, joint injuries,
that kind of thing. I can think of maybe five
herbs that would be really well combined with it, and
you know, who knows, maybe I'll even see if it
does substitute for pepper. You know, I don't mind drinking

(29:44):
a beer three or four every now and then and
with a meal, and I don't worry too much about
the estrogenic effects of the hops in that regard. So
maybe a little of this monk's pepper and the food
every now and then might be an interesting thing to explore.
You know, we do have a couple of pepper substitutes
that grow in North America. We don't have piper was

(30:07):
it piper niagram or long pepper, which is actually very interesting.
Back in I'm you know, we got a little bit
of time. Let me just go and tell you a
little bit about pepper. It's one of the most interesting
spices in the world. Does have medicinal uses if you
go back to Diascorides and the writings of the ancient Greeks.
He was the first cookbook author officially, and they really

(30:31):
preferred long pepper. Now long pepper at that time I
think was coming from India and Indonesia maybe, and it's
very hard to find these days. You're not gonna find
in the grocery store. You have to get it from
a specially shop. They said it was actually preferable to
black pepper, very closely related. It's more aromatic and a

(30:55):
little bit sweeter. It's very interesting. I really do like
the long pepper. These days, we get various varieties of
black pepper, just your plain old black peppercorns. White pepper
is the same thing as black pepper, only the black
husk has been removed. Pink pepper is the same thing
as black pepper. It's usually a specific variety, but it's

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not for a minute to turn the color black. And
then we have green pepper, which is ripe undried peppercorns
usually preserved in vinegar. Now, if you haven't tried all these,
you really should. Each one has a different flavor, each
one affects a dish differently, and if you can get

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some long pepper, definitely do Now we can actually grow
long pepper in the South. It does need protection. It
works better in greenhouses. As such, I'm not aware of
anyone doing it. So if you're an entrepreneur and you're thinking,
you know, I might want to grow a spicic, it
actually be quite valuable. We're looking to growing long pepper.

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It's good to depend to in your climate and region
and all that. You know. It always does. But then
we'd have a couple of pepper substitutes, and we talked
about the vitex amongst pepper. The other is pepper grass. Boy,
I need to get it. I do need to do
a whole program on pepper grass. It's it's actually an

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adaptogenic herb with strong what we say, some people say
it has somewhat of an aphrodisiac effect. It doesn't. It
actually has strong libido enhancing effects or uh, sexual performance
enhancing effects, which is why most people value it for

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centuries before then, especially the version that grows into Mexico
and South America. It was used for warriors and athletes,
as you know, really enhancing physical performance. It's remark plant.
It really grows really all over North America. There are

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different varieties of them. Some have more of those adaptogenic
properties than other. But the seed is a peppery flavor
and it's a very good substitute for black pepper if
you couldn't get black pepper's I almost had the Latin name,
but it just escaped me. These starts with an L. Anyway,

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it's called pepper grass, and it's also very immuno supportive.
It's one of the best things to take, especially the
onset of a cold. It actually warms the body. It
can help break a fever. Really interesting plant, really interesting plant.
There's well, of course, then you have your brassica family,

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your mustard seeds, shepherd parse. Some of those have a
more peppery flavor than others. So there are actually several
several good native to just about wherever you are substitutes
for black pepper. So anyway, that's something to think about.
They all have anti cancer properties, you know, antiox and effects,

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anti inflammatory, good for the respiratory system, can help break
a fever, good for digestion just really interesting properties. And
really that's almost a forgotten aspect of herbal medicine, is
that a lot of the medicinal herbs that we use, well,

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you know, we know sage and parsley and fennel seed,
and you know carraway and basil and mint and all
that have a culinary purpose. We understand that they're both
culinary medicinal herbs, but we think of them as like
culinary herbs that have a medicinal use, where if you
want to flip that around, there are also medicinal herbs

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that have a culinary use, and I don't think maybe
we think about that enough. But anyway, yea, y'all have
a great way. I hope you're still enjoying your Thanksgiving
leftovers and absolutely stuffing yourself on turkey and dressing and
gravy by the gallon. You know, James Gregory said it best.
He said, where I come from, gravy is considered a beverage.

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And that's one of the reasons, was one of the
main reasons this is like my favorite time of year.
I love all the food and I'm enjoying it thoroughly.
I hope you are as well. Have a great week,
and I'll talk to you next time.

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