February 28, 2025 • 50 mins
In the finale episode of Finding Hope Through The Storm, we tackle the pressing themes of hope, resilience, and social justice in today's turbulent times. Conversations unfold around the critical role of the church in activism, drawing parallels with its historical significance and its waning presence in modern discussions. We explore the unique challenges faced by today's youth and emphasize the necessity for communities to engage deeply with them, uplifting the next generation to foster lasting change.
Join us for this gripping exploration, where we not only seek to understand the societal landscape but also provide a roadmap for positive engagement rooted in faith and community. This conversation is essential for anyone looking to cultivate hope and inspire action in an increasingly complex world. Be sure to subscribe, share, and leave a review to continue this journey with us!
magic mind: You have a limited offer you can use now, that gets you up to 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one time purchases with code
SPADEPOD20 at checkout. You can claim it at: https://magicmind.com/SPADEPOD
Check out my website, and remember to subscribe/follow to get notifications for new content being released weekly throughout my social media pages! Thank you again for your support.
magic mind: You have a limited offer you can use now, that gets you up to 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one time purchases with code
SPADEPOD20 at checkout. You can claim it at: https://magicmind.com/SPADEPOD
website: www.spadementalhealth.com
TikTok: @spadementalhealth
If you are seeking help, call the SAMHSA’s National Helpline:1-800-662-HELP (4357), or The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration: 1-800-487-4889.
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
yo, what's up everybody?
It's your boy, anthony.
Welcome to another edition ofthe podcast.
What's going on y'all?
Welcome to part two of FindingHope Through the Storm.
Now, if you ain't found hopethrough the storm in part one,
you need to find some hope firstbefore you listen to this
(00:36):
episode.
So I need you to find some hopein that part one before you
listen to part two.
If you ain't found it yet, soclick that link before this
episode and find some hopethrough the storm in part one.
Okay, okay, all right.
(01:01):
So this is again a continuationof part of finding hope through
the storm.
This is part two and before weget started, I just wanted to
actually update you guys on howI'm doing with Magic Mind.
So, just in case you guysdidn't know, so Magic Mind is a,
like I talked about before.
(01:22):
If you listened to the firstepisode, is a mental performance
shot and I've been adding it tomy daily routine and it's going
to get you focused, mentallyclear, motivated, productive
while reducing stress.
(01:43):
And it's with mushroomnootropics and has 100% of your
daily vitamin C and D per bottle, as well as adaptogens.
So just want to let you knowknow this is 100% safe.
(02:04):
All ingredients are third-partytested, sourced from the best
suppliers.
And again, this is not a coffeereplacement, so you're not
replacing your coffee.
I'm not advising that.
This is just an addition toyour morning routine, so it's
(02:24):
just like your daily essentialvitamins, but it's just for your
mind.
So I wanted to have everybodyto go on a journey with me so
y'all can see how it's workingfor me.
Now.
I told y'all in the beginningthat when I first started it,
(02:49):
you know, I couldn't really tellwhat was going on.
Slightly I was feeling a little, had the energy boost, but the
taste was ugh.
But since I have been drinkingit, I've gotten used to the
taste.
So the taste isn't that bad atall.
(03:09):
I've gotten used to it.
So I'm good with the taste.
It's a shot, literally.
So all you got to do is justtake it to the head and I have
noticed that when I'm like supertired, I just take it and I get
that big jolt of energy and,yeah, I'm definitely liking it.
(03:41):
So you have a limited offer thatyou can use now.
So what you can do is you cango on my page and this will get
you up to 48% off your firstsubscription, or 20% off a
one-time purchase with the codeof SPADEPOD20.
That's all caps.
S-p-a-d-e-p-o-d 20 at thecheckout, p-o-d 20 at the
checkout, and then you'll claimit at uh.
(04:04):
H-t-t-p-s.
Um colon, uh backspace,backspace, magicmindcom.
Um slash spadepod, and that'sall caps.
So again, and that will be uhposted in my description so you
(04:24):
can see exactly the correctspelling, et cetera, and you can
just copy and paste.
Other than that, we are goingto get started on the episode.
So I hope you enjoy.
This is the last part, this ispart two.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
So stay tuned and I'll be right back with the
interview.
So I want to shift to our secondtopic, and we actually kind of
(05:19):
alluded to this in church, tothis in church, jaden and John
we were talking about how thechurch nowadays are not as
active as far as being on theforefront of activism, whereas
(05:49):
back in the early in the 60s, inthe 70s, they were so like with
the civil rights movement andeverything like that.
So yeah, during the civil rightsmovement, black churches were
at the forefront.
So yeah, during the civilrights movement, black churches
(06:38):
were at the forefront pastors,faith leaders and congregations,
you know, they were riskingeverything for the fight, for
needs to stay out of thepolitics and it needs to be a
separation of church and state.
Particularly, we can also lookat the fact that our evangelical
churches I'll give an exampleas far as, like our George, what
(06:59):
happened with George Floyd orwith Breonna Taylor or any of
those cases, george Floyd orwith Breonna Taylor, or any of
those cases I could not, I couldcount on let me rephrase this I
(07:21):
could probably count on onehand where some of my
evangelical churches spoke outduring those particular
incidents that happened.
So, with that being said, hasthe modern church in today's
(07:41):
time abandoned the role in itsfight for justice.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I would say not truly abandoned.
I would say more laws in howthey actually should lead.
Some are scared, some feel asthough that it will be what's
the word.
I'm looking for Retaliations Ifthey do commit any action.
Compared to back then, theywouldn't care.
(08:14):
It was life or death.
Nowadays too, oh, I'm scared.
Just like Brother Jadenmentioned, you have more fear of
man than fear of God.
God could do anything he wants.
There's two things that Godcould do.
He could either provide justiceor he could do mercy so many
(08:36):
times that he provided mercy forus and I'm not going to go
ahead and put my fear of manabove him.
He will always be number onepriority.
I just feel, as though, that weneed to go ahead and go back to
the basics.
We need to go ahead and startto build our foundation, because
a house cannot stand without afoundation.
It will be shaky.
(08:57):
The moment a wind comes through, it's just going to knock it
over.
Go ahead and rebuild, have ourfront base and then build up
from it, and then we could goahead and start leading the
younger generation.
We start leading once we getright ourselves.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I believe the youth plays a big factor in what's to
come in the future.
The youth in our age factor inwhat's to come in the future.
The youth in our age younger,because I look at the youth as
the root of the foundation aswell when it comes to just you
(09:41):
know on earth.
Because once they're, if peopleare able to train them up, if
people are able to correct them,if people are able to really
nurture their mind and todiscard or be put away what they
(10:02):
see when they're in school,when they're out in the street,
right it's separating who theyare.
And it's separating especiallyif you've grown up in a church
and when you hit 17, 18, 19,life kind of hits and you start
separating, right, the youthwill build that church.
(10:25):
The youth will be able to speakfor itself because we can be on
fire, we can be, but we got tobe able to renew our mind.
We have to be able to get thoselost souls back to realizing
they are the church.
(10:46):
Yeah, get back to the youthrealizing their worth and that
they don't have to be followersof man but followers of God to
(11:06):
realize that and get back tothat mindset or even introduce
people to that mindset andintroduce people to Christ and
who they are as a, as a, as abeautiful and wonderfully made
person in the image of God.
Once they know that, then we'llbe able to, like John said,
have a good foundation to keepbuilding up and keep building up
(11:27):
, because I feel like we're notgoing out, man, and speaking
this gospel, we're not going outenough and being able to tell
enough people about God.
I agree with that.
Like, like what, we were allexcited and we still are excited
(11:49):
, but when we first came tocrisis, like we don't know
everything that's about tohappen, but I just know I feel
much better than I did before.
Right, right, don't you wantsomebody else to feel the exact
same way?
Right, don't you want to seethat, that joy in somebody's
eyes from what they've just beengoing through?
You come up to people and belike, yeah, my dad died, my baby
(12:15):
died, but to give them hope anda future from what you've
learned in church, from whatyou've learned through the
future, from what you've learnedin church, from what you've
learned through the Bible.
I love seeing that joy and thatlove in somebody's eyes when
they're like I am saved, yeah, Iam healed.
(12:39):
Right, right, and once we havea group of people that can be
able to do that, then we can beable to go forth and preach the
gospel, not worrying about thepolitics, Right, not worried
about what's going on.
So that's what I will commenton, just that question, just
(13:01):
continually building.
And if we have a church, wehave to continually build, have
different classes, trainings, sopeople can know how to defend
their faith, tell their faith,even tell their testimony.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Because a lot of people, they don't like to share
their testimony.
Again, we talked about this inchurch.
They don't like to share whatthey've gone through because, I
mean, you got to look at thefact that your testimony can
save souls.
You know people, people dealwith this, we all deal with
(13:39):
similar situations and if younever share how God delivered
you from X, y and Z and thenanother person is dealing with
the same thing and they're on athreshold of about to lose it,
you know you've lost.
You've lost the battle.
So it's very important to justcontinue to just hear that
(14:01):
testimony, like I made itthrough.
God did this for me.
If he did it for me, then hecan do it for you.
You know, tell it and then I'llget to you real quick.
But going going real quick.
Back to the youth.
It's also important to get theyouth into the church, because
(14:24):
the youth, to get the youth intothe church, because the youth,
um, we we've lost the youthwithin the churches, churches
and I think again, it's, it'svery important to get them, like
you said, get them involvedinto the church so, and while
(14:46):
you were talking, I was thinkingback to Mount Sinai days.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
They had us doing everything.
We had step teams, choirs, wewere going to different churches
, we were doing a whole bunch ofstuff and just thinking about
some of the main fruit that wasalways there, just thinking
about where we all are today,when you're not here wilding out
(15:12):
, most of us are still in church.
So, to your point, while we mayhave did our own thing once we
left and got old enough, I thinkthe Bible is true when it says
when you train up a child in theway they should go, when they
grow older they won't depart.
I mean, they won't try to dotheir own thing.
It just means that what you,what foundation you gave them
(15:32):
will always reel them back in.
So I think that is definitelyimportant.
I just think it goes back fullcircle to your question which
man you, you really made methink on this particular
question and I think to fullyanswer it we really have to look
at.
I don't think the churchabandoned their role.
I think what happened was weallowed too many people who had
(15:57):
the wrong intentions to becomeleaders or to become what we
call, you know, preachers, thepastors.
The Bible says that we testevery spirit, and a lot of
people say test every spirit bythe spirit.
No, it just says test everyspirit and we test it by the
word of God to see what they'resaying, their theology, their,
whatever it is that they'rebringing before us.
(16:18):
The Bible said that there werethe Bereans.
They didn't just take Paul'sand every and other, every other
teacher and leader, by theirword.
They went and they had theBible open to see.
Did this match up with what wasgoing on, with what we already
have written?
And so you know, I tell peopleall the time, when we start
talking about racial things inthe church and politics, that
(16:40):
it's very easy to stand up andtake a stand in wartime, but the
real revolution starts inpeacetime.
What are we doing when thesethings die down?
And then we start talking aboutgiving your money so that God
will bless, and we start talkingabout the material things, the
wealth and the health that's notguaranteed to us anyway, and
(17:00):
while we still have a communityof people who are suffering, who
are dying, who are addicted todrugs because not because
they're bad people they decidedto be druggies one day.
People were molested, peoplewere raped, people were beaten,
people were abused and we closedthem out because now we want to
have the people in here.
Who's going to line our pocketswith whatever it is that we are
(17:24):
preaching to them making themthink is real.
So I think that not so much asthe church has abandoned it, I
think we just allow people intothe pulpits.
Who has led us astray?
And I think also on the flipside of that, when we talk about
the 50s and 60s and the civilrights movement, I think if we
(17:45):
go back to the 20s or evenbefore, then our people who
looked like us, who looked likethe four of us Black people once
slavery was, I think, booker TWashington.
His mindset was that if you'renot going to give me a job and
here it is, 200-something yearslater we're still dealing with
it when you talk about DEI andstuff but if you're not going to
(18:08):
give me a job, I'm going totake my idea and I'm going to
materialize it and I'm going tobecome your competitor.
Now, and I think we rely toomuch on what is the government
going to give us.
I watched the preacher I'm notgoing to call his name, very
popular preacher and when Ithink it was the week after
(18:30):
Trump got elected and he startedtossing out all these executive
orders, and I mean literallyfor an hour straight.
He used scripture to berateDonald Trump and berate people
who voted for him and do allthese weird things that had
nothing to do with the gospel.
But in the same, in the samebreath, when, when the sermon
was over with he, he, he usedanother the Rosewoods, the Tulsa
(18:52):
, oklahomans and the Black WallStreets, who we were our own
community.
We had hospitals, we had ourown grocery stores.
(19:17):
It was us like FUBU back in theday, for us, by us.
And then, once they came in anddestroyed those communities, now
we had liberal people come inand say you know, in order for
you to truly get help now you'regoing to need government
assistance.
And I think it was Lyndon BJohnson who said that I'm going
(19:38):
to give these people just enough, not for them to make a
difference, but I'm going togive them enough programs to
keep them distracted and youknow so that we can be so caught
up in what they're doing.
But they didn't give us enoughto to make a difference.
And here it is, 60, 70 yearslater and we're still dealing
with the same things.
I think this may be a hot take,and I don't mean as far as not
(19:59):
standing up for what's right,but I think that the church and
state should be separated.
And the only reason why I saythat is because, when you look
at Acts, the church and stateshould be separated.
And the only reason why I saythat is because, when you look
at Acts, the church, the Biblesays they had all things in
common, which means they broughteverything that they had and
they made sure that their sectorof people didn't want for
anything.
So I think, until we can getsome leaders who can come in and
(20:22):
say you know what we're goingto take care of, not just the
people in our church, but we'regoing to go and we're going to
take care of our surroundingcommunities, instead of telling
people that if they don't givetheir money, they don't give
this because they may or may nothave it, because the church is
comprised most of our churchanyway mostly of single mothers.
So mothers who may bestruggling, mothers, especially
(20:43):
now with inflation or whatevereven regular families with both
mother and fathers arestruggling.
Mothers, especially now withinflation or whatever even
regular families with bothmother and fathers are
struggling.
So if we take those things andwe tell them, you know, give out
of your heart, like the Biblesays, not out of compulsion, but
God loves a cheerful giver, youknow, giving what he may so we
can take care of each other aswell as take care of the
(21:03):
communities, then maybe we cancome and say you know, we don't
have to even worry about DEI, wedon't have to worry about this
because we're creating our ownjobs.
We're doing this and, yes, itmay be hard because essentially,
we're starting over fromscratch because of the different
things that we've had to endureas a community.
But if these people, who werefresh out of slavery, could do
it with all the technology andeverything that we have today,
(21:29):
you can't tell me that we don'thave the brilliance.
You can't tell me we don't havethe fortitude to be able to do
the same things as just now.
We have to work and we have toget the community involved and,
like my brother said, not justget them involved.
You know, it's all aboutreaching them.
No, no, no, we got to reachthem and we got to.
We got to tell them.
You know this, and that ishappening because of the need of
repentance, god's lovingkindness, the Bible says, is
(21:49):
because he wants to draw youinto repentance.
So now we have to mirror, wehave to confront and love them
and confront the issues thatthey're dealing with.
But then, once we're able tobuild that relationship now we
got to usher in the spiritualaspect of it and then we can
usher in the discipline and, youknow, being able to have make
jobs and everything of thatnature, just as the Booker T
(22:12):
Washington's and everybody elsedid.
So I really think that wedidn't abandon our role.
I think we've allowed people totake the reins over what we're
supposed to do and they'vetotally scattered the flock of
god I like that.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
So, speaking of um, finish the fears.
So we've been talking about theuncertainty, with division and
fear in the world, et cetera,especially within the Black
community, and people withstruggle with stress and anxiety
(22:57):
and even hopelessness.
So how do we protect our mentalhealth without becoming numb to
what's happening around us, andhow do we balance staying
informed without I mean stayinginformed with maintaining our
(23:18):
peace?
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I mean, and it's tough, it's tough, it's tough
and mental health is a realthing.
But, man, when you absolutelytrust in the Lord and wait on
(23:43):
the Lord, and when thescriptures say he shall renew
your strength, and you were sore, and you were sore like an
Eagle, it's, it's, it's thosepromises like that.
But also what helps and thishas helped me, I can say it in
the sense of this is that theencouraging part, when I hear
(24:06):
different testimonies or when Ihear what people have been
delivered from, it's like man,man, whatever I'm going through,
I'm not comparing it to thatperson's situation, but I'm
(24:29):
looking at it as that they'vejust been delivered through so
much.
They've been delivered throughso much and you'll be
complaining about something sosmall.
Or even because sometimes Ilook at myself like, why are you
being so selfish?
Because now you're like man, Iwant this, I want that.
(24:56):
I'm going through this in mymind.
But what if some of the thingsthat you're going through in
your mind is just because youwant something so quick?
What are some of the thingsthat you're going through in
your mind?
Is because you couldn't haveyour way on something.
Sometimes you just got to wait,Sometimes you just got to sit.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
sometimes you just gotta wait.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Sometimes you just gotta sit.
Some people going throughanxiety and I'm not diminishing
anxiety, but what I remember inthe word is he said don't be
anxious about anything, prayabout everything.
So it's we gotta be filled withthe spirit.
We gotta be filled with thespirit, we gotta be filled with
(25:44):
the word cause soon as thatquick thought hits your mind,
cause them thoughts, man them.
Thoughts can really get you toa place where you've never been
before they will get you to adark place that you've never
gone before right.
So if I had something to tellsomebody that's going through,
just thoughts in general andsomething that always helps me,
(26:09):
you back it up with somescripture, you back it up with a
promise, and I know sometimesit's tough for people to look at
scripture and be like man.
That ain't really helping me.
Take your eyes off of yourselfand cast it onto God.
Don't feel like you can carrythis burden, because the devil
(26:34):
is a spirit and he know how toget you, because he know your
trigger points.
He know how to attack your side.
He know your trigger points.
He know how to attack your side.
It's tough for you to fightagainst a spirit where you're
just in a body, a mortal body.
So, what you do, okay, god, Igot you.
I'm going to give it up to you.
(26:57):
I'm going to let you carry this.
Even when I'm weak, you arestrong.
Even when I don't see thingscoming my way, I know it's
coming.
I know you're going to deliverme.
I know you're going to do this.
It all resembles hope and faith.
(27:17):
It's just like a cloud.
Okay, if I have hope, if I havefaith, okay, now I'm able to
trust.
Now I'm going to keep onbelieving.
Now I've seen the things.
I'm just waiting on my turnOnce that waiting comes, because
waiting really is thatdiscipline, waiting is really
(27:37):
that obedience, because mentalhealth, it can come and it can
go, but you got to speak lifeinto yourself, deaf, and life is
in the power of the tongue.
So what you going to do, how yougoing to say your words, what
you going to do this day?
You going to get up in themorning and be like man dang, I
(27:58):
got to go to work, or is it wellI got to go to work, or is it
well I get to go to work today?
Right, what we talking about?
What we really talking about?
Speak life into yourself.
Speak life of yourcircumstances, because the
circumstances is only for that,for that one thing, for that one
(28:19):
time.
Then, when you get past it,you're like dang man, I wish I
was happy through that.
Yeah, I wish I was joyfulthrough that.
I made it out, I made it out.
So that's what I say, it's thepower of your words, that's what
I say, it's the power of yourwords.
(28:42):
And once people realize whatthey have within them, they'll
be able to be functional and beable to be aware of the Holy
Spirit, and they'll befunctional and know what God can
do in their life, because theyknow the fruits of the Spirit is
in them.
But they know all they got todo is break out of that bondage,
break out of them generationalcurses by using a simple act of
(29:03):
words and courage.
So yeah, man, that's my take onthat question.
That's a good question, john,what you thinking.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Oh.
I have a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
So, 40 days, three nights, jesus out of the
wilderness, right the momentthat he left the wilderness, or
at the end of his 40 days, 40nights, that's when the devil
came through over attemptingJesus, man of God.
Like that, he experiencedhunger, he experienced
frustration, depression, allthese things that we as mortals
(29:40):
experience.
Devil him up, all thesedifferent that we as mortals
experience.
Devil him up with all thesedifferent things.
Like, hey, can you go ahead andchange this, can you change the
bread?
We didn't want to test him.
And imagine if Jesus had thementality, if he was not
emotionally, mentally preparedto go against that, if they
(30:00):
didn't want to go ahead andthink like a man, like, hey, I'm
going to just go ahead and dothis.
Nah, he went ahead and backedup with the word, just like
Brother James stated.
The moment that happened, guesswhat?
Now?
The devil man?
He frustrated Okay, I'm goingto do a number two.
Number two he went in and what?
I think it was like a castle.
And then he was like hey, heput it in that scripture.
(30:23):
He was like hey, the angel willgo ahead and bless you, your
foot will not hit the stone.
That didn't happen.
Jesus went ahead and backed upwith the word.
The last time, the devil waslike hey, I can go ahead and
bless you All of these differentthings.
All you have to do is just goahead and bow to me Again.
Jesus hit him with just theword.
(30:44):
The word alone will get youthrough so many situations, and
it's the difference betweenhappiness and joy.
Happiness is something that'stemporary, something that just
happened for a moment but easilycan be taken away.
Compared to joy, that'ssomething that only God can give
you.
You can never be taken away.
Compared to joy, that'ssomething that only God can give
you.
You can never be taken away.
One of my favorite songs is Joyin the Morning.
No matter what's happening, youcan have a family passing.
(31:08):
You could just get fired, yourgirlfriend left you, you got
evicted.
Whatever the case is, it willbe joy in the morning and we
have to rejoice in it.
One of my other scriptures Ilike to say I think of what?
4, 6, I think it's 10,philippians All situations, you
be content because you alreadyhave hope, you already have
(31:29):
trust, you already have faith inthe Lord that he will bless you
.
The same promises that he gaveto Abraham, elijah, moses is the
same promises and blessingsthat he will give to you.
So all this about hey, my dayis bad or I'm not going to be
good curses Brother Jadenmentioned about that it's not
just about generational curses,but it's about curses that we
(31:51):
actually say A lot of times.
We say we can't, we never.
Why are we doing this Already?
Psychologically, we've takenourselves out of the game before
we even start.
So we need to change ourmindset and we need to change
the way how we believe, not justfor ourselves, but for others,
because that will impact othersas well.
(32:12):
If I'm supposed to be aspiritual leader and I'm telling
you guys like, hey, I can't dothis because I'm afraid that's
fear as well and that's using acurse, and I'm telling you guys
like, hey, I can't do thisbecause I'm afraid that's fear
as well and that's using a curse, how would that make you guys
feel?
Try to follow me.
(32:34):
If I'm supposed to be theleader Moses?
Moses kept saying, hey, I can'tlead, I got speech impediment,
all of this.
Hey, get my brother.
My brother, yeah, he could bethe one that save everybody.
God said no, you the one, Ichose you.
And Moses realized that he hadsomething inside of him that he
never realized.
But we have to go through thesetests in order to have these
(32:57):
testimonies, hey man should notlive by bread alone.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Amen, xavier, what you thinking.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
I think Brother John just mentioned the joy in the
morning, scripture.
We remain due for a night, butjoy comes in the morning.
I think a lot of times what wemiss is the morning starts when
it's still dark.
So we think, just because it'sdark or we can't see that it's
not morning, we have to.
Just all you got to do is justcheck around you to see you know
what.
Maybe it is morning.
(33:33):
And I think all that goes backto the original.
While we're here, it's becauseof hope.
Bible says I hope in you, I hopein him, I hope in God.
So our hope, our anticipationwith joy, anticipation with
knowing that he's able to do it,has to precede everything that
(33:54):
we're going through, and I meanit's so much easier said than
done when you're going throughit.
So it seems.
But the Bible says we have tocast down every thought that
presents itself against what weknow about God.
What do we know, Even if wehaven't seen a move in a while
in our life, even though we have, because we wake up every day,
(34:16):
which means, you know, we stillhave a purpose to fulfill, like
you said earlier, but also whatwe've seen him do, like we've
said many times since we've beenhere of what he did for the
people that we read about in theword.
So I think it's imperative torenew your mind.
The Bible says you know, wehave to renew our minds and it's
not something that we just dowhen we get saved.
No, we got to renew this mindevery day because we're still in
(34:38):
this flesh and our flesh isnothing good.
So we're going to have thosethoughts, we're going to have
those feelings.
But also I think what isimportant, the Bible says seat
wise counsel.
So whether that's a biblicalcounselor, whether that's a
pastor, whether that's my uncleGod rest his soul.
He, for three years he movedfrom California here and I sat
(34:59):
under him just hearing him.
He was in ministry for over 40years.
He moved from California hereand I sat under him just hearing
him.
He was in ministry for over 40years working as a pastor,
prison chaplain, going throughso many different things and
knowing what I was trying towalk in in my life, just being
able to sit under him and gainthat knowledge.
So we have to also, we have toseek that wise counsel because,
(35:19):
like my brother said, sometimesit seems like the word is not
enough and it is.
That's all we need.
But also I was says how canthey hear without a preacher?
A preacher is just someone whounderstands the word but can
also understand what you havebeen through and be able to
break it down to you where youare and then build you up.
So that way, when these thingscome now I have the hope and I
(35:40):
have the faith to get over it.
Because the Bible says fromfaith to faith, from glory to
glory.
So there's different places offaith, there's different places
of glory, because the glory, allit means, is the weight of who.
God is the weight of it.
So sometimes in certain placesin life, because we're not built
up with the word, we may not beable to handle certain glory,
(36:05):
certain places of weight.
So we have to seek wise counselthat's rooted in the scripture.
We have to get into itourselves so we can hide that
word in our heart so that we maynot sin against him.
So it's all about not what'sgoing on externally, it's
everything.
What's going on externally iseverything was going on
internally.
What do you do, what do we doto build our faith, to build our
(36:27):
character, and who are wesurrounding ourselves with?
You can't get over youraddictions.
You're hanging with the samepeople who's doing what you're
trying to get away from, who youknow.
It may be entertaining, it maybe fun, it may be this, but now
some people we have to severties with because we may not
understand what we're connectingourselves to, Maybe draining
(36:53):
the very life out of us, thevery spiritual things that we
are looking toward.
It all sounds easier said thandone, but it's really not.
We have to rely on the word andrely on the people that God
will place in our life.
We have to pray and we have toallow the Holy Spirit to lead us
, the people, people that canproperly pour into our lives.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, I agree with that, Idefinitely agree with that, and
not only just praying, butdefinitely just fasting, fasting
and praying, because it goeshand in hand.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Because with fasting, that is starving your flesh,
that is starving and almostkilling the flesh and almost
killing the flesh, and that waythat will allow you to be able
(37:48):
to connect more so you can heara better, get a better
understanding from God when youpray, because you won't hear
that clouded judgment, you won'thear those voices or anything
like that, it'll just be.
You can hear him clearly.
So definitely just goes hand inhand with fasting and praying.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Amen, sure Well said, anthony Well said.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
That about wraps it up, guys.
So, um, I really appreciatey'all for coming on.
Um, thank you so much y'all.
This has been a blessing, um,not only for the audience but me
(38:40):
.
You guys were amazing and y'allsaid some things that I needed
to hear.
So, thank y'all for coming on,and I definitely hope that we
all can get back together onfuture episodes and continue to
(39:03):
spread this message.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Thank you for having us.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Thank God because we're just a service to him.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
That's it.
I definitely agree with thatfinal final words to our to our
audience out there that are inthis storm and they need,
they're looking for hope and forthose that have listened to
(39:38):
this and they're just like, okay, I hear this religion mumbo
jumbo, but I mean, I'm stilldealing with X, y and Z.
What do you say to that?
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Surrender.
Don't do it by yourself.
You do it by yourself.
You do it by yourself, thenyou're going to look at the
storm rather than you looking atGod.
You surrender, you'resurrendering your rights over to
God.
There's a lot going on and it'sgoing to keep going on.
(40:21):
So you're either going to flowwith the tide or you're just
going to be able to let go andlet God make his way into your
life.
It's tough.
Do think about this.
Everybody got a differentsituation, everybody got a
problem.
Everybody got something goingon.
But two things that I learnedthat you can't control is your
(40:44):
attitude and your actions.
So what you need to do, what Irecommend you doing, is
surrendering to God.
Let him have his way, and youwill see I'm saying this with
confidence, and you will see I'msaying this with confidence
(41:04):
because you will see it, I'mgiving you hope right now you
will see what God is capable ofdoing.
That's it.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
That's right, man, that's true, yeah.
I like that.
That's right, man, that's true.
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
That's it, anybody else?
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I would say keep your faith, keep your hope, no
matter what the fact that youcould get knocked down two times
, three times, four times.
It's not about how many timesyou get knocked down, it's about
how many times you actually getback up.
You got to keep pushing.
If anybody in the past, someright leaders, if they just gave
up because they was lynched orfirehose got shot, anything like
(41:57):
that, we would not be in thissituation right now.
We would not have a civil race.
If Jesus did not go to hell andcrucify us on the cross for us,
we would not be here right now.
So I give you a spiritualleader, I give you a physical,
natural leader.
All these individuals continueto do what's needed for us to be
(42:18):
here.
So, no matter what, everythingcould look bleak, keep pushing,
because God has a way to prosperyou, to bless you, and the only
way you will know is havingthat breakthrough.
That breakthrough couldliterally be on the other side
of the door.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Yeah, I like that Amen.
Speaker 5 (42:39):
Amen brother Don, yes , sir.
Speaker 6 (42:42):
Amen, for real.
I would say you are looking ata guy in myself who's there's
two things that I thought wouldhalt whatever it is that I
wanted to do in life.
And I was molested as a youngman and as a child, as a boy,
(43:06):
and my mother passed when I was17 years old and both of those
things carried major weight thatI had to carry through life.
You talk about anger.
You're talking about differentaddictions.
You're talking about so manythings that I thought man, god
can't use me, or man, how am Igoing to make it through this?
(43:28):
And here it is Now.
I'm 30 years old, be 31 thisyear, and am I still going
through things in life?
Absolutely, but those thingsthat I thought would kill me
spiritually, mentally andsometimes even physically.
I'm over that.
I can look at those things nowand use it as a testimony.
One thing that I love about yousaid storms.
(43:49):
My favorite storm story is whenJesus walked on water with
Peter, and one of the accounts Ithink it's the account in Mark
or Luke, I can't remember whichone, but one of those accounts
said that Jesus meant to passthem by, and when I first saw it
I was like man, that's kind ofharsh Jesus, why would you mean
(44:09):
to pass them by?
And they're making waypainfully in the storm without
you there.
And then I had to keep readingand he pointed out that I had
meant to pass them by because Itold them I was going to meet
them on the other side.
So the Bible says that his wordcannot return back to him void.
So, yes, you may be goingthrough many situations, but if
God promised you something, ifhe told you something, then you
(44:32):
can rest assured that he's goingto meet you on the other side
of it.
The storm is causing the ship towreck, it's causing you to be
fearful, but if you can juststay in the boat and trust his
word of what he told you, Ipromise you while we're all here
, if you keep that hope on theinside, like my brother said,
you will see him.
It may not be in the way thatyou want him to show up, but he
(44:55):
will show up in the middle ofyour storm Because, remember,
before he walked through thestorm, he calmed more.
So we have a God who's perfect,who has a perfect record
against storms.
So just remember that if yousurrender to him and if you
submit to the God who's perfectin storms, then, I promise you,
you can make it through yours.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Oh, I like to go ahead and answer that as well.
Man, yes, sir, man, that'sgreat.
So you mentioned about thestorm, jesus walking on water.
So Peter went ahead and walkedon water as well, and that's
what we need to do we need to goahead and focus on God.
The moment that he was focusedon Jesus, he was walking on
water.
He had no issues.
The moment he started to lookat distractions, look to the
left and right or look at thewaves, that's when we start to
(45:37):
sink.
We need to focus on what isabove.
We need to focus on the hill,nothing else.
Once we do that, we can doanything.
Yeah, everything is possiblethrough Jesus Christ, who
strengthened us.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Everything is possible.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
So that's it.
Just keep our eyes on him.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
Everything is possible for those who love God.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
I'm telling you God made a way.
He's still making a way.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Yes, yes, yeah, make a way out of no way.
God is just he's awesome, he'sawesome man, he's awesome, he's
awesome for those that I justpray that, if you don't know God
(46:26):
, that you would truly justaccept him into your heart and
just believe that he died foryou and he rose again, and just
believe that he died for he diedfor you and he rose again.
That God is.
(46:50):
He is magnificent, king ofkings, lord of lords, and I just
pray that you truly surrender,accept him and then you just
believe and have hope and youwill pass through this storm.
(47:15):
This is me lost.
Amen, amen, amen, amen Amen.
Thank you guys for coming onand to my listeners out there.
Thank you all for listening andI will see you guys next time,
(47:37):
because this is going to be atwo-part series.
Maybe it's because of the time.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
That's dope right there.
Speaker 5 (47:50):
Yes sir, we're going to lock in.
We're going to lock in.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Man, this might be like a Trinity out here, okay.
Good man, this might be a three.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Like a Trinity out here, okay good, but thank y'all
again for listening and mylisteners out there.
Y'all stay tuned because in theupcoming weeks we will release
my preview for my new show,tricky Cards at Hand, and you
(48:19):
will get a sneak preview of thefirst.
I'll give you the first fiveminutes of the first episode so
y'all can hear what you willexpect to hear and that series
will be releasing I'm stillgoing to say 2025.
(48:42):
This year so y'all stay tuned.
Y'all stay tuned for that.
So y'all listen to my outromusic.
See you later.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Next time on.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Spade.
The podcast featuring Dr NinjaDika Alatunde.
We suffer physically, mentally,emotionally, spiritually and
financially with all of theissues that are happening in our
life.
We've got to understand thepain-stress connection.
(49:31):
The two go hand in hand.
You do not have pain withoutstress and you do not have
stress without pain.
You have to understand thatconnection and what that
connection is.
Outro Music.
yo, what's up everybody?
It's your boy, anthony.
Welcome to another edition ofthe podcast.
What's going on y'all?
Welcome to part two of FindingHope Through the Storm.
Now, if you ain't found hopethrough the storm in part one,
you need to find some hope firstbefore you listen to this
(00:36):
episode.
So I need you to find some hopein that part one before you
listen to part two.
If you ain't found it yet, soclick that link before this
episode and find some hopethrough the storm in part one.
Okay, okay, all right.
(01:01):
So this is again a continuationof part of finding hope through
the storm.
This is part two and before weget started, I just wanted to
actually update you guys on howI'm doing with Magic Mind.
So, just in case you guysdidn't know, so Magic Mind is a,
like I talked about before.
(01:22):
If you listened to the firstepisode, is a mental performance
shot and I've been adding it tomy daily routine and it's going
to get you focused, mentallyclear, motivated, productive
while reducing stress.
(01:43):
And it's with mushroomnootropics and has 100% of your
daily vitamin C and D per bottle, as well as adaptogens.
So just want to let you knowknow this is 100% safe.
(02:04):
All ingredients are third-partytested, sourced from the best
suppliers.
And again, this is not a coffeereplacement, so you're not
replacing your coffee.
I'm not advising that.
This is just an addition toyour morning routine, so it's
(02:24):
just like your daily essentialvitamins, but it's just for your
mind.
So I wanted to have everybodyto go on a journey with me so
y'all can see how it's workingfor me.
Now.
I told y'all in the beginningthat when I first started it,
(02:49):
you know, I couldn't really tellwhat was going on.
Slightly I was feeling a little, had the energy boost, but the
taste was ugh.
But since I have been drinkingit, I've gotten used to the
taste.
So the taste isn't that bad atall.
(03:09):
I've gotten used to it.
So I'm good with the taste.
It's a shot, literally.
So all you got to do is justtake it to the head and I have
noticed that when I'm like supertired, I just take it and I get
that big jolt of energy and,yeah, I'm definitely liking it.
(03:41):
So you have a limited offer thatyou can use now.
So what you can do is you cango on my page and this will get
you up to 48% off your firstsubscription, or 20% off a
one-time purchase with the codeof SPADEPOD20.
That's all caps.
S-p-a-d-e-p-o-d 20 at thecheckout, p-o-d 20 at the
checkout, and then you'll claimit at uh.
(04:04):
H-t-t-p-s.
Um colon, uh backspace,backspace, magicmindcom.
Um slash spadepod, and that'sall caps.
So again, and that will be uhposted in my description so you
(04:24):
can see exactly the correctspelling, et cetera, and you can
just copy and paste.
Other than that, we are goingto get started on the episode.
So I hope you enjoy.
This is the last part, this ispart two.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
So stay tuned and I'll be right back with the
interview.
So I want to shift to our secondtopic, and we actually kind of
(05:19):
alluded to this in church, tothis in church, jaden and John
we were talking about how thechurch nowadays are not as
active as far as being on theforefront of activism, whereas
(05:49):
back in the early in the 60s, inthe 70s, they were so like with
the civil rights movement andeverything like that.
So yeah, during the civil rightsmovement, black churches were
at the forefront.
So yeah, during the civilrights movement, black churches
(06:38):
were at the forefront pastors,faith leaders and congregations,
you know, they were riskingeverything for the fight, for
needs to stay out of thepolitics and it needs to be a
separation of church and state.
Particularly, we can also lookat the fact that our evangelical
churches I'll give an exampleas far as, like our George, what
(06:59):
happened with George Floyd orwith Breonna Taylor or any of
those cases, george Floyd orwith Breonna Taylor, or any of
those cases I could not, I couldcount on let me rephrase this I
(07:21):
could probably count on onehand where some of my
evangelical churches spoke outduring those particular
incidents that happened.
So, with that being said, hasthe modern church in today's
(07:41):
time abandoned the role in itsfight for justice.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I would say not truly abandoned.
I would say more laws in howthey actually should lead.
Some are scared, some feel asthough that it will be what's
the word.
I'm looking for Retaliations Ifthey do commit any action.
Compared to back then, theywouldn't care.
(08:14):
It was life or death.
Nowadays too, oh, I'm scared.
Just like Brother Jadenmentioned, you have more fear of
man than fear of God.
God could do anything he wants.
There's two things that Godcould do.
He could either provide justiceor he could do mercy so many
(08:36):
times that he provided mercy forus and I'm not going to go
ahead and put my fear of manabove him.
He will always be number onepriority.
I just feel, as though, that weneed to go ahead and go back to
the basics.
We need to go ahead and startto build our foundation, because
a house cannot stand without afoundation.
It will be shaky.
(08:57):
The moment a wind comes through, it's just going to knock it
over.
Go ahead and rebuild, have ourfront base and then build up
from it, and then we could goahead and start leading the
younger generation.
We start leading once we getright ourselves.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I believe the youth plays a big factor in what's to
come in the future.
The youth in our age factor inwhat's to come in the future.
The youth in our age younger,because I look at the youth as
the root of the foundation aswell when it comes to just you
(09:41):
know on earth.
Because once they're, if peopleare able to train them up, if
people are able to correct them,if people are able to really
nurture their mind and todiscard or be put away what they
(10:02):
see when they're in school,when they're out in the street,
right it's separating who theyare.
And it's separating especiallyif you've grown up in a church
and when you hit 17, 18, 19,life kind of hits and you start
separating, right, the youthwill build that church.
(10:25):
The youth will be able to speakfor itself because we can be on
fire, we can be, but we got tobe able to renew our mind.
We have to be able to get thoselost souls back to realizing
they are the church.
(10:46):
Yeah, get back to the youthrealizing their worth and that
they don't have to be followersof man but followers of God to
(11:06):
realize that and get back tothat mindset or even introduce
people to that mindset andintroduce people to Christ and
who they are as a, as a, as abeautiful and wonderfully made
person in the image of God.
Once they know that, then we'llbe able to, like John said,
have a good foundation to keepbuilding up and keep building up
(11:27):
, because I feel like we're notgoing out, man, and speaking
this gospel, we're not going outenough and being able to tell
enough people about God.
I agree with that.
Like, like what, we were allexcited and we still are excited
(11:49):
, but when we first came tocrisis, like we don't know
everything that's about tohappen, but I just know I feel
much better than I did before.
Right, right, don't you wantsomebody else to feel the exact
same way?
Right, don't you want to seethat, that joy in somebody's
eyes from what they've just beengoing through?
You come up to people and belike, yeah, my dad died, my baby
(12:15):
died, but to give them hope anda future from what you've
learned in church, from whatyou've learned through the
future, from what you've learnedin church, from what you've
learned through the Bible.
I love seeing that joy and thatlove in somebody's eyes when
they're like I am saved, yeah, Iam healed.
(12:39):
Right, right, and once we havea group of people that can be
able to do that, then we can beable to go forth and preach the
gospel, not worrying about thepolitics, Right, not worried
about what's going on.
So that's what I will commenton, just that question, just
(13:01):
continually building.
And if we have a church, wehave to continually build, have
different classes, trainings, sopeople can know how to defend
their faith, tell their faith,even tell their testimony.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Because a lot of people, they don't like to share
their testimony.
Again, we talked about this inchurch.
They don't like to share whatthey've gone through because, I
mean, you got to look at thefact that your testimony can
save souls.
You know people, people dealwith this, we all deal with
(13:39):
similar situations and if younever share how God delivered
you from X, y and Z and thenanother person is dealing with
the same thing and they're on athreshold of about to lose it,
you know you've lost.
You've lost the battle.
So it's very important to justcontinue to just hear that
(14:01):
testimony, like I made itthrough.
God did this for me.
If he did it for me, then hecan do it for you.
You know, tell it and then I'llget to you real quick.
But going going real quick.
Back to the youth.
It's also important to get theyouth into the church, because
(14:24):
the youth, to get the youth intothe church, because the youth,
um, we we've lost the youthwithin the churches, churches
and I think again, it's, it'svery important to get them, like
you said, get them involvedinto the church so, and while
(14:46):
you were talking, I was thinkingback to Mount Sinai days.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
They had us doing everything.
We had step teams, choirs, wewere going to different churches
, we were doing a whole bunch ofstuff and just thinking about
some of the main fruit that wasalways there, just thinking
about where we all are today,when you're not here wilding out
(15:12):
, most of us are still in church.
So, to your point, while we mayhave did our own thing once we
left and got old enough, I thinkthe Bible is true when it says
when you train up a child in theway they should go, when they
grow older they won't depart.
I mean, they won't try to dotheir own thing.
It just means that what you,what foundation you gave them
(15:32):
will always reel them back in.
So I think that is definitelyimportant.
I just think it goes back fullcircle to your question which
man you, you really made methink on this particular
question and I think to fullyanswer it we really have to look
at.
I don't think the churchabandoned their role.
I think what happened was weallowed too many people who had
(15:57):
the wrong intentions to becomeleaders or to become what we
call, you know, preachers, thepastors.
The Bible says that we testevery spirit, and a lot of
people say test every spirit bythe spirit.
No, it just says test everyspirit and we test it by the
word of God to see what they'resaying, their theology, their,
whatever it is that they'rebringing before us.
(16:18):
The Bible said that there werethe Bereans.
They didn't just take Paul'sand every and other, every other
teacher and leader, by theirword.
They went and they had theBible open to see.
Did this match up with what wasgoing on, with what we already
have written?
And so you know, I tell peopleall the time, when we start
talking about racial things inthe church and politics, that
(16:40):
it's very easy to stand up andtake a stand in wartime, but the
real revolution starts inpeacetime.
What are we doing when thesethings die down?
And then we start talking aboutgiving your money so that God
will bless, and we start talkingabout the material things, the
wealth and the health that's notguaranteed to us anyway, and
(17:00):
while we still have a communityof people who are suffering, who
are dying, who are addicted todrugs because not because
they're bad people they decidedto be druggies one day.
People were molested, peoplewere raped, people were beaten,
people were abused and we closedthem out because now we want to
have the people in here.
Who's going to line our pocketswith whatever it is that we are
(17:24):
preaching to them making themthink is real.
So I think that not so much asthe church has abandoned it, I
think we just allow people intothe pulpits.
Who has led us astray?
And I think also on the flipside of that, when we talk about
the 50s and 60s and the civilrights movement, I think if we
(17:45):
go back to the 20s or evenbefore, then our people who
looked like us, who looked likethe four of us Black people once
slavery was, I think, booker TWashington.
His mindset was that if you'renot going to give me a job and
here it is, 200-something yearslater we're still dealing with
it when you talk about DEI andstuff but if you're not going to
(18:08):
give me a job, I'm going totake my idea and I'm going to
materialize it and I'm going tobecome your competitor.
Now, and I think we rely toomuch on what is the government
going to give us.
I watched the preacher I'm notgoing to call his name, very
popular preacher and when Ithink it was the week after
(18:30):
Trump got elected and he startedtossing out all these executive
orders, and I mean literallyfor an hour straight.
He used scripture to berateDonald Trump and berate people
who voted for him and do allthese weird things that had
nothing to do with the gospel.
But in the same, in the samebreath, when, when the sermon
was over with he, he, he usedanother the Rosewoods, the Tulsa
(18:52):
, oklahomans and the Black WallStreets, who we were our own
community.
We had hospitals, we had ourown grocery stores.
(19:17):
It was us like FUBU back in theday, for us, by us.
And then, once they came in anddestroyed those communities, now
we had liberal people come inand say you know, in order for
you to truly get help now you'regoing to need government
assistance.
And I think it was Lyndon BJohnson who said that I'm going
(19:38):
to give these people just enough, not for them to make a
difference, but I'm going togive them enough programs to
keep them distracted and youknow so that we can be so caught
up in what they're doing.
But they didn't give us enoughto to make a difference.
And here it is, 60, 70 yearslater and we're still dealing
with the same things.
I think this may be a hot take,and I don't mean as far as not
(19:59):
standing up for what's right,but I think that the church and
state should be separated.
And the only reason why I saythat is because, when you look
at Acts, the church and stateshould be separated.
And the only reason why I saythat is because, when you look
at Acts, the church, the Biblesays they had all things in
common, which means they broughteverything that they had and
they made sure that their sectorof people didn't want for
anything.
So I think, until we can getsome leaders who can come in and
(20:22):
say you know what we're goingto take care of, not just the
people in our church, but we'regoing to go and we're going to
take care of our surroundingcommunities, instead of telling
people that if they don't givetheir money, they don't give
this because they may or may nothave it, because the church is
comprised most of our churchanyway mostly of single mothers.
So mothers who may bestruggling, mothers, especially
(20:43):
now with inflation or whatevereven regular families with both
mother and fathers arestruggling.
Mothers, especially now withinflation or whatever even
regular families with bothmother and fathers are
struggling.
So if we take those things andwe tell them, you know, give out
of your heart, like the Biblesays, not out of compulsion, but
God loves a cheerful giver, youknow, giving what he may so we
can take care of each other aswell as take care of the
(21:03):
communities, then maybe we cancome and say you know, we don't
have to even worry about DEI, wedon't have to worry about this
because we're creating our ownjobs.
We're doing this and, yes, itmay be hard because essentially,
we're starting over fromscratch because of the different
things that we've had to endureas a community.
But if these people, who werefresh out of slavery, could do
it with all the technology andeverything that we have today,
(21:29):
you can't tell me that we don'thave the brilliance.
You can't tell me we don't havethe fortitude to be able to do
the same things as just now.
We have to work and we have toget the community involved and,
like my brother said, not justget them involved.
You know, it's all aboutreaching them.
No, no, no, we got to reachthem and we got to.
We got to tell them.
You know this, and that ishappening because of the need of
repentance, god's lovingkindness, the Bible says, is
(21:49):
because he wants to draw youinto repentance.
So now we have to mirror, wehave to confront and love them
and confront the issues thatthey're dealing with.
But then, once we're able tobuild that relationship now we
got to usher in the spiritualaspect of it and then we can
usher in the discipline and, youknow, being able to have make
jobs and everything of thatnature, just as the Booker T
(22:12):
Washington's and everybody elsedid.
So I really think that wedidn't abandon our role.
I think we've allowed people totake the reins over what we're
supposed to do and they'vetotally scattered the flock of
god I like that.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
So, speaking of um, finish the fears.
So we've been talking about theuncertainty, with division and
fear in the world, et cetera,especially within the Black
community, and people withstruggle with stress and anxiety
(22:57):
and even hopelessness.
So how do we protect our mentalhealth without becoming numb to
what's happening around us, andhow do we balance staying
informed without I mean stayinginformed with maintaining our
(23:18):
peace?
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I mean, and it's tough, it's tough, it's tough
and mental health is a realthing.
But, man, when you absolutelytrust in the Lord and wait on
(23:43):
the Lord, and when thescriptures say he shall renew
your strength, and you were sore, and you were sore like an
Eagle, it's, it's, it's thosepromises like that.
But also what helps and thishas helped me, I can say it in
the sense of this is that theencouraging part, when I hear
(24:06):
different testimonies or when Ihear what people have been
delivered from, it's like man,man, whatever I'm going through,
I'm not comparing it to thatperson's situation, but I'm
(24:29):
looking at it as that they'vejust been delivered through so
much.
They've been delivered throughso much and you'll be
complaining about something sosmall.
Or even because sometimes Ilook at myself like, why are you
being so selfish?
Because now you're like man, Iwant this, I want that.
(24:56):
I'm going through this in mymind.
But what if some of the thingsthat you're going through in
your mind is just because youwant something so quick?
What are some of the thingsthat you're going through in
your mind?
Is because you couldn't haveyour way on something.
Sometimes you just got to wait,Sometimes you just got to sit.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
sometimes you just gotta wait.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Sometimes you just gotta sit.
Some people going throughanxiety and I'm not diminishing
anxiety, but what I remember inthe word is he said don't be
anxious about anything, prayabout everything.
So it's we gotta be filled withthe spirit.
We gotta be filled with thespirit, we gotta be filled with
(25:44):
the word cause soon as thatquick thought hits your mind,
cause them thoughts, man them.
Thoughts can really get you toa place where you've never been
before they will get you to adark place that you've never
gone before right.
So if I had something to tellsomebody that's going through,
just thoughts in general andsomething that always helps me,
(26:09):
you back it up with somescripture, you back it up with a
promise, and I know sometimesit's tough for people to look at
scripture and be like man.
That ain't really helping me.
Take your eyes off of yourselfand cast it onto God.
Don't feel like you can carrythis burden, because the devil
(26:34):
is a spirit and he know how toget you, because he know your
trigger points.
He know how to attack your side.
He know your trigger points.
He know how to attack your side.
It's tough for you to fightagainst a spirit where you're
just in a body, a mortal body.
So, what you do, okay, god, Igot you.
I'm going to give it up to you.
(26:57):
I'm going to let you carry this.
Even when I'm weak, you arestrong.
Even when I don't see thingscoming my way, I know it's
coming.
I know you're going to deliverme.
I know you're going to do this.
It all resembles hope and faith.
(27:17):
It's just like a cloud.
Okay, if I have hope, if I havefaith, okay, now I'm able to
trust.
Now I'm going to keep onbelieving.
Now I've seen the things.
I'm just waiting on my turnOnce that waiting comes, because
waiting really is thatdiscipline, waiting is really
(27:37):
that obedience, because mentalhealth, it can come and it can
go, but you got to speak lifeinto yourself, deaf, and life is
in the power of the tongue.
So what you going to do, how yougoing to say your words, what
you going to do this day?
You going to get up in themorning and be like man dang, I
(27:58):
got to go to work, or is it wellI got to go to work, or is it
well I get to go to work today?
Right, what we talking about?
What we really talking about?
Speak life into yourself.
Speak life of yourcircumstances, because the
circumstances is only for that,for that one thing, for that one
(28:19):
time.
Then, when you get past it,you're like dang man, I wish I
was happy through that.
Yeah, I wish I was joyfulthrough that.
I made it out, I made it out.
So that's what I say, it's thepower of your words, that's what
I say, it's the power of yourwords.
(28:42):
And once people realize whatthey have within them, they'll
be able to be functional and beable to be aware of the Holy
Spirit, and they'll befunctional and know what God can
do in their life, because theyknow the fruits of the Spirit is
in them.
But they know all they got todo is break out of that bondage,
break out of them generationalcurses by using a simple act of
(29:03):
words and courage.
So yeah, man, that's my take onthat question.
That's a good question, john,what you thinking.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Oh.
I have a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
So, 40 days, three nights, jesus out of the
wilderness, right the momentthat he left the wilderness, or
at the end of his 40 days, 40nights, that's when the devil
came through over attemptingJesus, man of God.
Like that, he experiencedhunger, he experienced
frustration, depression, allthese things that we as mortals
(29:40):
experience.
Devil him up, all thesedifferent that we as mortals
experience.
Devil him up with all thesedifferent things.
Like, hey, can you go ahead andchange this, can you change the
bread?
We didn't want to test him.
And imagine if Jesus had thementality, if he was not
emotionally, mentally preparedto go against that, if they
(30:00):
didn't want to go ahead andthink like a man, like, hey, I'm
going to just go ahead and dothis.
Nah, he went ahead and backedup with the word, just like
Brother James stated.
The moment that happened, guesswhat?
Now?
The devil man?
He frustrated Okay, I'm goingto do a number two.
Number two he went in and what?
I think it was like a castle.
And then he was like hey, heput it in that scripture.
(30:23):
He was like hey, the angel willgo ahead and bless you, your
foot will not hit the stone.
That didn't happen.
Jesus went ahead and backed upwith the word.
The last time, the devil waslike hey, I can go ahead and
bless you All of these differentthings.
All you have to do is just goahead and bow to me Again.
Jesus hit him with just theword.
(30:44):
The word alone will get youthrough so many situations, and
it's the difference betweenhappiness and joy.
Happiness is something that'stemporary, something that just
happened for a moment but easilycan be taken away.
Compared to joy, that'ssomething that only God can give
you.
You can never be taken away.
Compared to joy, that'ssomething that only God can give
you.
You can never be taken away.
One of my favorite songs is Joyin the Morning.
No matter what's happening, youcan have a family passing.
(31:08):
You could just get fired, yourgirlfriend left you, you got
evicted.
Whatever the case is, it willbe joy in the morning and we
have to rejoice in it.
One of my other scriptures Ilike to say I think of what?
4, 6, I think it's 10,philippians All situations, you
be content because you alreadyhave hope, you already have
(31:29):
trust, you already have faith inthe Lord that he will bless you
.
The same promises that he gaveto Abraham, elijah, moses is the
same promises and blessingsthat he will give to you.
So all this about hey, my dayis bad or I'm not going to be
good curses Brother Jadenmentioned about that it's not
just about generational curses,but it's about curses that we
(31:51):
actually say A lot of times.
We say we can't, we never.
Why are we doing this Already?
Psychologically, we've takenourselves out of the game before
we even start.
So we need to change ourmindset and we need to change
the way how we believe, not justfor ourselves, but for others,
because that will impact othersas well.
(32:12):
If I'm supposed to be aspiritual leader and I'm telling
you guys like, hey, I can't dothis because I'm afraid that's
fear as well and that's using acurse, and I'm telling you guys
like, hey, I can't do thisbecause I'm afraid that's fear
as well and that's using a curse, how would that make you guys
feel?
Try to follow me.
(32:34):
If I'm supposed to be theleader Moses?
Moses kept saying, hey, I can'tlead, I got speech impediment,
all of this.
Hey, get my brother.
My brother, yeah, he could bethe one that save everybody.
God said no, you the one, Ichose you.
And Moses realized that he hadsomething inside of him that he
never realized.
But we have to go through thesetests in order to have these
(32:57):
testimonies, hey man should notlive by bread alone.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Amen, xavier, what you thinking.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
I think Brother John just mentioned the joy in the
morning, scripture.
We remain due for a night, butjoy comes in the morning.
I think a lot of times what wemiss is the morning starts when
it's still dark.
So we think, just because it'sdark or we can't see that it's
not morning, we have to.
Just all you got to do is justcheck around you to see you know
what.
Maybe it is morning.
(33:33):
And I think all that goes backto the original.
While we're here, it's becauseof hope.
Bible says I hope in you, I hopein him, I hope in God.
So our hope, our anticipationwith joy, anticipation with
knowing that he's able to do it,has to precede everything that
(33:54):
we're going through, and I meanit's so much easier said than
done when you're going throughit.
So it seems.
But the Bible says we have tocast down every thought that
presents itself against what weknow about God.
What do we know, Even if wehaven't seen a move in a while
in our life, even though we have, because we wake up every day,
(34:16):
which means, you know, we stillhave a purpose to fulfill, like
you said earlier, but also whatwe've seen him do, like we've
said many times since we've beenhere of what he did for the
people that we read about in theword.
So I think it's imperative torenew your mind.
The Bible says you know, wehave to renew our minds and it's
not something that we just dowhen we get saved.
No, we got to renew this mindevery day because we're still in
(34:38):
this flesh and our flesh isnothing good.
So we're going to have thosethoughts, we're going to have
those feelings.
But also I think what isimportant, the Bible says seat
wise counsel.
So whether that's a biblicalcounselor, whether that's a
pastor, whether that's my uncleGod rest his soul.
He, for three years he movedfrom California here and I sat
(34:59):
under him just hearing him.
He was in ministry for over 40years.
He moved from California hereand I sat under him just hearing
him.
He was in ministry for over 40years working as a pastor,
prison chaplain, going throughso many different things and
knowing what I was trying towalk in in my life, just being
able to sit under him and gainthat knowledge.
So we have to also, we have toseek that wise counsel because,
(35:19):
like my brother said, sometimesit seems like the word is not
enough and it is.
That's all we need.
But also I was says how canthey hear without a preacher?
A preacher is just someone whounderstands the word but can
also understand what you havebeen through and be able to
break it down to you where youare and then build you up.
So that way, when these thingscome now I have the hope and I
(35:40):
have the faith to get over it.
Because the Bible says fromfaith to faith, from glory to
glory.
So there's different places offaith, there's different places
of glory, because the glory, allit means, is the weight of who.
God is the weight of it.
So sometimes in certain placesin life, because we're not built
up with the word, we may not beable to handle certain glory,
(36:05):
certain places of weight.
So we have to seek wise counselthat's rooted in the scripture.
We have to get into itourselves so we can hide that
word in our heart so that we maynot sin against him.
So it's all about not what'sgoing on externally, it's
everything.
What's going on externally iseverything was going on
internally.
What do you do, what do we doto build our faith, to build our
(36:27):
character, and who are wesurrounding ourselves with?
You can't get over youraddictions.
You're hanging with the samepeople who's doing what you're
trying to get away from, who youknow.
It may be entertaining, it maybe fun, it may be this, but now
some people we have to severties with because we may not
understand what we're connectingourselves to, Maybe draining
(36:53):
the very life out of us, thevery spiritual things that we
are looking toward.
It all sounds easier said thandone, but it's really not.
We have to rely on the word andrely on the people that God
will place in our life.
We have to pray and we have toallow the Holy Spirit to lead us
, the people, people that canproperly pour into our lives.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, I agree with that, Idefinitely agree with that, and
not only just praying, butdefinitely just fasting, fasting
and praying, because it goeshand in hand.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Because with fasting, that is starving your flesh,
that is starving and almostkilling the flesh and almost
killing the flesh, and that waythat will allow you to be able
(37:48):
to connect more so you can heara better, get a better
understanding from God when youpray, because you won't hear
that clouded judgment, you won'thear those voices or anything
like that, it'll just be.
You can hear him clearly.
So definitely just goes hand inhand with fasting and praying.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Amen, sure Well said, anthony Well said.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
That about wraps it up, guys.
So, um, I really appreciatey'all for coming on.
Um, thank you so much y'all.
This has been a blessing, um,not only for the audience but me
(38:40):
.
You guys were amazing and y'allsaid some things that I needed
to hear.
So, thank y'all for coming on,and I definitely hope that we
all can get back together onfuture episodes and continue to
(39:03):
spread this message.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Thank you for having us.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Thank God because we're just a service to him.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
That's it.
I definitely agree with thatfinal final words to our to our
audience out there that are inthis storm and they need,
they're looking for hope and forthose that have listened to
(39:38):
this and they're just like, okay, I hear this religion mumbo
jumbo, but I mean, I'm stilldealing with X, y and Z.
What do you say to that?
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Surrender.
Don't do it by yourself.
You do it by yourself.
You do it by yourself, thenyou're going to look at the
storm rather than you looking atGod.
You surrender, you'resurrendering your rights over to
God.
There's a lot going on and it'sgoing to keep going on.
(40:21):
So you're either going to flowwith the tide or you're just
going to be able to let go andlet God make his way into your
life.
It's tough.
Do think about this.
Everybody got a differentsituation, everybody got a
problem.
Everybody got something goingon.
But two things that I learnedthat you can't control is your
(40:44):
attitude and your actions.
So what you need to do, what Irecommend you doing, is
surrendering to God.
Let him have his way, and youwill see I'm saying this with
confidence, and you will see I'msaying this with confidence
(41:04):
because you will see it, I'mgiving you hope right now you
will see what God is capable ofdoing.
That's it.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
That's right, man, that's true, yeah.
I like that.
That's right, man, that's true.
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
That's it, anybody else?
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I would say keep your faith, keep your hope, no
matter what the fact that youcould get knocked down two times
, three times, four times.
It's not about how many timesyou get knocked down, it's about
how many times you actually getback up.
You got to keep pushing.
If anybody in the past, someright leaders, if they just gave
up because they was lynched orfirehose got shot, anything like
(41:57):
that, we would not be in thissituation right now.
We would not have a civil race.
If Jesus did not go to hell andcrucify us on the cross for us,
we would not be here right now.
So I give you a spiritualleader, I give you a physical,
natural leader.
All these individuals continueto do what's needed for us to be
(42:18):
here.
So, no matter what, everythingcould look bleak, keep pushing,
because God has a way to prosperyou, to bless you, and the only
way you will know is havingthat breakthrough.
That breakthrough couldliterally be on the other side
of the door.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Yeah, I like that Amen.
Speaker 5 (42:39):
Amen brother Don, yes , sir.
Speaker 6 (42:42):
Amen, for real.
I would say you are looking ata guy in myself who's there's
two things that I thought wouldhalt whatever it is that I
wanted to do in life.
And I was molested as a youngman and as a child, as a boy,
(43:06):
and my mother passed when I was17 years old and both of those
things carried major weight thatI had to carry through life.
You talk about anger.
You're talking about differentaddictions.
You're talking about so manythings that I thought man, god
can't use me, or man, how am Igoing to make it through this?
(43:28):
And here it is Now.
I'm 30 years old, be 31 thisyear, and am I still going
through things in life?
Absolutely, but those thingsthat I thought would kill me
spiritually, mentally andsometimes even physically.
I'm over that.
I can look at those things nowand use it as a testimony.
One thing that I love about yousaid storms.
(43:49):
My favorite storm story is whenJesus walked on water with
Peter, and one of the accounts Ithink it's the account in Mark
or Luke, I can't remember whichone, but one of those accounts
said that Jesus meant to passthem by, and when I first saw it
I was like man, that's kind ofharsh Jesus, why would you mean
(44:09):
to pass them by?
And they're making waypainfully in the storm without
you there.
And then I had to keep readingand he pointed out that I had
meant to pass them by because Itold them I was going to meet
them on the other side.
So the Bible says that his wordcannot return back to him void.
So, yes, you may be goingthrough many situations, but if
God promised you something, ifhe told you something, then you
(44:32):
can rest assured that he's goingto meet you on the other side
of it.
The storm is causing the ship towreck, it's causing you to be
fearful, but if you can juststay in the boat and trust his
word of what he told you, Ipromise you while we're all here
, if you keep that hope on theinside, like my brother said,
you will see him.
It may not be in the way thatyou want him to show up, but he
(44:55):
will show up in the middle ofyour storm Because, remember,
before he walked through thestorm, he calmed more.
So we have a God who's perfect,who has a perfect record
against storms.
So just remember that if yousurrender to him and if you
submit to the God who's perfectin storms, then, I promise you,
you can make it through yours.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Oh, I like to go ahead and answer that as well.
Man, yes, sir, man, that'sgreat.
So you mentioned about thestorm, jesus walking on water.
So Peter went ahead and walkedon water as well, and that's
what we need to do we need to goahead and focus on God.
The moment that he was focusedon Jesus, he was walking on
water.
He had no issues.
The moment he started to lookat distractions, look to the
left and right or look at thewaves, that's when we start to
(45:37):
sink.
We need to focus on what isabove.
We need to focus on the hill,nothing else.
Once we do that, we can doanything.
Yeah, everything is possiblethrough Jesus Christ, who
strengthened us.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Everything is possible.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
So that's it.
Just keep our eyes on him.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
Everything is possible for those who love God.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
I'm telling you God made a way.
He's still making a way.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Yes, yes, yeah, make a way out of no way.
God is just he's awesome, he'sawesome man, he's awesome, he's
awesome for those that I justpray that, if you don't know God
(46:26):
, that you would truly justaccept him into your heart and
just believe that he died foryou and he rose again, and just
believe that he died for he diedfor you and he rose again.
That God is.
(46:50):
He is magnificent, king ofkings, lord of lords, and I just
pray that you truly surrender,accept him and then you just
believe and have hope and youwill pass through this storm.
(47:15):
This is me lost.
Amen, amen, amen, amen Amen.
Thank you guys for coming onand to my listeners out there.
Thank you all for listening andI will see you guys next time,
(47:37):
because this is going to be atwo-part series.
Maybe it's because of the time.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
That's dope right there.
Speaker 5 (47:50):
Yes sir, we're going to lock in.
We're going to lock in.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Man, this might be like a Trinity out here, okay.
Good man, this might be a three.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Like a Trinity out here, okay good, but thank y'all
again for listening and mylisteners out there.
Y'all stay tuned because in theupcoming weeks we will release
my preview for my new show,tricky Cards at Hand, and you
(48:19):
will get a sneak preview of thefirst.
I'll give you the first fiveminutes of the first episode so
y'all can hear what you willexpect to hear and that series
will be releasing I'm stillgoing to say 2025.
(48:42):
This year so y'all stay tuned.
Y'all stay tuned for that.
So y'all listen to my outromusic.
See you later.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Next time on.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Spade.
The podcast featuring Dr NinjaDika Alatunde.
We suffer physically, mentally,emotionally, spiritually and
financially with all of theissues that are happening in our
life.
We've got to understand thepain-stress connection.
(49:31):
The two go hand in hand.
You do not have pain withoutstress and you do not have
stress without pain.
You have to understand thatconnection and what that
connection is.
Outro Music.
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.