October 25, 2024 • 24 mins
Hello there! Garry is flying solo this week to bring you up to speed on what's happening around the galaxy including...
The recent turmoil surrounding the upcoming Star Wars film, "New Jedi Order," which has lost its screenwriter, Stephen Knight, leading to further delays in production. Daisy Ridley's optimistic comments about the project now seem overshadowed by this setback, raising questions about the film's future.
On a more positive note, James Mangold's "Dawn of the Jedi" appears to be on track, with indications that filming could begin next year, exploring the origins of the Jedi in a captivating new storyline.
Additionally, intriguing hints from the upcoming "Skeleton Crew" series suggest connections to deeper Star Wars lore, particularly regarding the Sith's forerunners.
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Hello there and welcome toSpark of Rebellion. This is your
weekly Star wars podcast andwelcome to episode 235. Welcome aboard
another episode, everyone. Myname is Garry, I'm ofyour cohosts
hereatSparkRebellionandit'soneofthoseweeks whereit'sasolo
(00:36):
showformeasmycohost.Markiscurrentlyreallybusywiththedayjob.He'shadto doabitofa.Bit
ofa layoveroverinDatdare,London to get some workdone.Sohe's
that there London to get somework done. So he's unfortunately
unavailable merunningthroughalittlebitofnews.We weregoingtoleaveitthis
weekbut.ButsomereasonablybignewshasdroppedinrelationtoupcomingStar warsmoviesandthestatus
(01:00):
ofacertaincoupleoffilms. I'mgoingto runyouthroughthatstuffandalsoatastylittletidbitwhichcouldrevealsomeinteresting
stuffforthe Skeleton crew,TVepisode orTV seriesthat'sgoingtolandliterallyinwhat,six
weekstime,eightweekstime,something likethat.SoI'mgoingtorunthroughthatwith
(01:22):
youaswell.Soyeah,myname'sGarry.I'moneof yourhosts andIhopeyou
havehadacrackingweek.Ihopeyou've donesomethingStarWarsyand
ifnot,I hopeyouarelookingforward tosomethingStar
Warsy. Whether it'stheupcomingBlu Rays.They'regoing tolandsoon.Ithink
it'sseasonthreeoftheMandalorianandAhsoka.They'redroppingon blu
(01:45):
ray and4kblurayveryshortly.Soyeah,if that's yourbag
andyou'reintoyourphysicalmediaandallthat stuff,byallaccountstheyshouldlook
reallygoodaswell.Anythingthat'sthat'sfilmedwithareallydecent quality
stuffasthe StarWarsTVstreamingstuff is,thenthat'lllookreallygoodontheold
big.Theoldbig4KTVwithaDolbyVision,allthatstuff.So yeah,gotsomecool
(02:10):
stufftolookforwardto.There'salsorumorsofabigVenatorStarshipLegosetdroppingaswellsoon, whichishuge,thousandsofpieces.Bitof
adetailedinterioraswell.Thatmightbe coolwithChristmasaroundthecorner.So
keepaneyeoutforthat.We'llletyouknowifthat's goingtodrop.But
otherthanthat,yes,I hopeyouarekeepingwell.Thisisepisode 235andmakesureyou'refollowing
(02:38):
orsubscribingtothispodcastinwhateverappyouget yourpodcastsonsoyouwon'tmiss236onwardswe
putanewepisodeoutmostweeksnormallywhere it'smuchmyselfandmycohostonwafflingthroughallthenews.Ifoneofusisn'taroundwe'llpop
asoloshow outorwemighttakeaweek off hereandthere.Butgenerallyspeakingitisa
(02:59):
weeklypodcastepisodesosomakesure youareyouarefollowingtogetallofthatstuff.Andahugebigthankyoutoour
membersandsupporterswhosupport us over@sparkbellion.com
forwardslashsupport.Denise,Danny,Pascal,Kev,Mark, allyouguys
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areveryverycoolandthankyouverymuchforyourcontinuedsupport.And ifyou
want tolobussomebeermoneyifyoulikewhatwe dohereat
SparkRebellionthenyoucandothatas well.AsIsaidsparkrebellion.com
support.Youcanalsohitusuponthesocialsifyouwanttochat Star
warswewepostlittletidbitsthroughouttheweekinbetweenepisodes. Socomeandgetinvolvedoverthere.We'reonTwitter,Instagram,threads,allthatstuff.Justdoa
(03:43):
searchforSparkofRebellionpodcastoryoucangotosparkrebellion.comTwitter or/instagramthatwilltakeyou
straightoverthere. Giveusalike andafollowandandstartchattingwith
us about alltheStarwarsthings. Right,withoutfurther ado,let'scrackintoafewofthesestoriesthathavelandedforthisweek.Thenthefirstoneand
thisthefirsttwostoriesarekindofweirdbecausetherearepolaroppositesof what'sactuallyhappeningwithacertainproject.Soa
(04:12):
fewdaysagoDaisyRidleywasdoingsomepressforadifferentfilm.Itwasfor amoviecalledMagpiewhichiswhichwasdoingtherounds
in termsof pressjunketsandwhatnot. AndColliderweredoing
theirpresseventsandtheyweredoingaQAwithwith Daisyandandhercostarandsomeotherpeople.Andasisalwaysthecase,anyonethat's
(04:42):
ever beeninStarwars,regardlessofwhatever projectthey'rebeinginterviewedon,thesubjects
will alwayscomeroundtosomething todowithStarWars.
AndbecauseDaisyRidleyandtheupcoming,supposedlyupcomingfilm thatshe's
meanttostarin,thenewJediOrderstuffthat'squite hotintermsofStar
wars newsattheminute.So it'snosurprisethatshewasaskedaboutStarwars andshe
(05:07):
saidtheyaskedhercanyougiveussome moreinformationabouttheprogressofNewJediOrder?Shesaid
veryShortandsweetthingsareevolving.Icontinue tobeveryexcited.Therewillbe
anupdatesoon.Sothat'swheresheleftit.She didn't alludeto
anything.Shedidn't expand onthatat all.Justniceandtothepoint.Andthis
(05:30):
waspublishedtwodaysago.SothiswasWednesday23rdOctober 2024.
Nowthatwouldhavegotfansexcitedif therewasn't thiswholestormaroundthefilmbeingputonhiatusor
indefinitelypaused,whatever.Thelastthingthatweheardthatwasactualsomething tangible
(05:54):
that was,sorry,factualoutofLucasfilmorDisneywasthatthefilm wasputonhold
just becausetheyweren'thappywiththescript.Potentiallyabitofthestory.Sonarrativelyitwasn'tquiteclicking.Sotheywhackedit onholdand
wewerejustgoingtowaittohearwhatwasgoingto happen atsomepoint,presumablynextyear,aswehadaverysimilar
(06:14):
situationwiththeKenobiserieswherewe were lookingforwardtothat.
Andthenthere was abit ofapauseandthenEwanMcGregorcameoutand said,youknow,
don'tworryaboutit.Youknow,thishappensallthetimewith TVandfilm.Justneedsabitofrefinement
withthestorytomakesurewe've.We'rereallyhappywithitandthenwe'llbebackonboard.So itseemedlikethatwasgoingtobethedealforthis.So
(06:36):
thiswasacoupleofdaysago,nothingreallyhappenedofficially. AndthenDaisyRidleysaidthatshewasexcitedandthere'llbean
updatesoon.Butthentherug hasbeenpulledoutfrombeneatheverybodywiththis.So thisis
astorythatwasbroadcastyesterday.Thiscomesfromvariety.comwhichannounces officiallythatthenewJediOrder,theDaisy
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Ridleyfilm,haslostitsscreenwriter,StephenKnight.He hasdepartedtheprojectandwe'renotreallysurewhyatthispoint.So
VarietysaythatbackinMarch2023,theyexclusively reportedthat
StephenKnighthadsignedontotheprojectandhe replacedtheoriginalscreenwriters,
(07:22):
whichwerewhoareDamonLindelhofandJustinBrittGibson.Thoseare the
twoguysthatkickstartedtheproject.IthinktheyleftStephenKnight,thenhoppedon.Now itseems
thatStephenKnighthas nowleft.Sohedidn't last.Hedidn'tlast very
long onthisoneandhasalreadydonethe offski.So,yeah,twostories
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andataleoftwohalves.We'renotsure whetherDave,
Daisyreally.Daisyreallywasawareof thisandshesaidthatwas
happeningbecauseinherstatementadayortwo beforethis,shesaysthat
shecontinues tobeExcitedandthere'll be anupdatesoon. Maybefromher
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pointof view,shewas justtoldbysomebody,oh,yeah,we'regoingto make.We'regoing
tobreaksomenewsaboutthis.Potentiallynotthenews thatshewashopingfor.Oritcouldjustbethatthis
has blindsidedeverybody.Therewasmeanttobe adecentupdateaboutthefilm,
andthen StevenKnight'sdecidedtoleave.Sothey've hadto pausewhatevertheyweregoingtoannounceandnowsaythattheproject'sgoneback
(08:31):
afewpacesandwhatever.So.Oh,man. Asusual,alittlebitofamess,really,with,withwhat'sgoingonoveratLucasfilmandDisneywhereitconcernsStarWars.And
wereallydon'tknowwhat'sgoingtohappenatthispointbecausethe whole,thewholereasonwhytheypauseproductionorpre
productiononitisbecausetheyweren'thappywiththescriptandsome ofthenarrative
(08:53):
and soon.Sowhenyouhaveyour,yourscreenwriterleave,it'sobvious youcanreadbetweenthelinesalittlebit.Althoughthere's
noofficialwordastowhyhe'sleft.Wecanreadbetweenthelinesandsay,right,okay, themovie
waspausedbecausetheyweren'thappywiththescriptandnow thescreenwritersleft.It'sclearthat
(09:14):
hewasn't happywithwhatcertainpeoplewherethedirection theywantedtogoin.
Heobviously wantedtotakethefilmincertaindirectionthathasn'treallygone down
thatwell,itseems.Sohe'slike,well, soditthen.I'll seeyoulater.Goodluckwith
whoeverelse yougetontodoit.Sothat's,that'swhatit seemsintermsof
timinganyway,whatitseemshashappened.Sothere'snoofficialwordonwho'sgoing to
(09:37):
replacehim.AllweknowfromVariety isthatLucasfilm
isactivelytalkingwithpotentialwriters who
cannowtakeonthestoryandpushit.Butthatdoesmeanthat,as Varietysayhereaswell,thatthedelayhaslikelypushed
productionbackuntilwellinto2025attheleast,before theyget
(09:58):
thissortedandgetthescript.Sotheyneedto getanotherscreenwriterorscreenwritersin,fixwhatevertheywantedtofix,
tweakit,whatever.Oncethey'vedone that,thenitneedstogothrough,youknow,
thatprocessagainofgettingschedulessorted out andalltheproduction
stuff,logistics.So,guys,Ithinkthisisgoingtobe. IthinkthisRayfilmisgoingtogo
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one of twoways. ThisdawnoftheJedifilm.It'seithergoingto beprobablya
2027releaseonthisOne which Ithinkthat's goingtoconflicta littlebitwithsomeoneelse's
film,which I'llgetontoinasecondbecausethiswasmeanttobe, ifI'm
correctin,inrememberingthis,this wasmeanttobea 2026 releasebecause
(10:45):
MarkandIspokeaboutLucas'sfilmsschedule that
theyreleasedacoupleofmonthsago.Andwewent tohavetwo
filmsin2026,onearoundMay,June, Ithink,andthenoneat Christmas.AndweguessedthatoneofthemwasgoingtobethisRaymovie.Butwho
knowswhat'sgoingtohappenwiththisnow?Sothiswill either benowa2027releasefilmorifthis
(11:12):
carrieson,they'reprobablyjustgoingtocountitandunfortunatelydowhatthey've donewith
afewotherprojectsoverthelastfiveorsixyears,whereitseemslikethings have
gottoacertainstage,acertainbitof. Theykickedthecandown theroad
andthenthey'vejustdecided,youknow what,this isjustmore, moretroublethan
it'sworth,sowe'llgetridofit.So, yeah,that'sthe, that'sthedealiowith
(11:34):
thedawn,thenewJediOrderfilm.Raythinksitwasgoingtobe cool.Sorry,Ray.
DaisyRidleythoughtitwasgoingtobecool.Expectinganupdate.She'sexcited.Andthenliterallywithin 24hours,thescreenwritersleftandit'sabitof
amessalready.Sowewillkeepyouupdated.Starwarslistening,ofcourse,if wegetanymorenewson
(11:55):
anynewscreenwritersthathavejumpedon boardandanyprogressandwhatnot.Butfornow,I
wouldjustforgetaboutthisfilmfornow.It'sgoingtobeawhilebeforetheygetanything moving
again.So,yeah,I'dforgetaboutthisoneforaweebit.Movingontosomemoremovienewsthough,andthis isslightlymorepositive.It's
nothing,nothingtooheavy,nobigconfirmationoranything. Butremember
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endoflastyear,beginningofthisyear,wespokeaboutJamesMangold's dawnoftheJedifilm.Thatseemedtobetickingalongreasonablynicely.Therewasn't
anybigcontroversyaroundJamesleavingorstayingor,youknow,theproductionbeingindefinitely on,onpauseoranyofthatrubbishthatwe'vegotsomeof
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theother projects.Andifeveryinterviewthathedid,andagain,whenthesubjectgot ontoStar
wars,hewasalwayslike,yep,youknow,there'snoreasontoworryaboutanythingat the
minute.We'revery,veryearlyoninproduction.I'mtickingalongnicely with
itfornow.It'sallgoodandhewas.Hewasinterviewedrecently,andthiswasfor. Thiswasfor.Wherewas
(13:17):
heinterviewedonthisfor?Sohewasbasicallydoing aroundagain,likethisDaisyRidleythingwiththeMagpie
film.Hewasdoingtheroundsaboutadifferentproject.So hislatestthingthathewantstogetrocking
androllingisthisBobDylanbiopicwhichismeanttocomeoutthisDecember.And that
(13:41):
projectiscalledACompleteUnknown,theBobDylanThing.Andsourceshavenow saidthatthey'reaware
ofJamesMangold'sschedule,His.Hiscreativeschedulefor hisupcomingprojects.
Now,thiscomes fromapersoncalledDaniel Reitman.SoheisapparentlyasourcewithinthesortofHollywoodindustryandwhatnot.He's.Heoftengetsthescoopon,like,
(14:09):
theMarvel stuff.DisneyLucasfilmapparentlygetsascoopon stuff.And
heissayingthataftertheCompleteUnknownisfinishedanddone,he's alldonewiththat.
ApparentlyhisnextprojectisgoingtobetheStarwars film.Sodawn
oftheJedicouldstartfilmingnextyear.So thisisgreatnews,obviously.Soweknow,obviously,thatdawnoftheJedi
(14:34):
isgoingtoexploretheoriginsoftheJedi,takingplaceway backin,like,theearliesterathatweknowof,withinstarwars,about25,000
years,preSkywalkerstuffandalltherestofit.Sothat'salwayssoundedveryintriguing.LikewhenMarkandIfirstspokethroughtheconceptforthefilm,wewerebothlike,you know,we.Our
(15:01):
interestwaspeaked. We'relike,okay,thiscould becool,becausewe'venevergoneback
thatfarbefore.We'veneverseenthe originsoftheForceandhowtheJedifoundout
abouttheForceandhowthey.Then,youknow,whicheverwayaroundyou wanttodoit,whethertheForce
createdthe.TheJediwayorwhethertheJediweresomethingelsetobeginwithand thentheyadoptedtheForce
(15:25):
and allthatstuff,we've noidea.Soit was.Itdoes soundlikeaverycoolthing.Andthe
goodnews is, sofar, Touchwood,fingerscrossed,thingsaremoving inthe
rightdirectionforJamesMangold'smovie,whichiswhatwewant to
hear.Soin.InstarkcontrasttothenewJediOrderfilm,thisoneseemstobeokay.Now,Idon'tknowthehow.HowgoodthisDanielReitman thingiswiththevalidity
(15:56):
ofscoopsandleaksoranythinglikethat.Youknow,it'sjusta sourcethatthisiscoming
from.WorldofReal,bytheway.Worldofreal.comRE ELNotrealasin,youknow.Andsowe'llkeepthepost
onthisoneas well,but sofar,sogood.Andthenlastly,Ijust wantto
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finishuponthisweelittleupdatethatwe'vegotfor Skeleton
Crew,whichhintsatsome.Something elsethat'swaybackin
thepast, whichistheoriginsoftheSithforerunners and alsoaslightconnection
withtheAhsokastuff.SoEmpireMagazine, theirlatestissue,they'vegot
(16:43):
some.They've gotawholesectiononSkeletonCrew,andthey'veputa newora
coupleofnewphotosinthere.Andoneofthemisthecharacter,youknow,JudeLaw's character.That'swho'squoteunquote,aJedi.
There'sapictureofhim,andhe'sstudyingwhat lookslikeinscriptionsona.Onacavewallsomewhere.Andwhatwethinkhe'sstudyingisa
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languagecalledUrquitat,whichis theearlyversion
ofthe Sith language,basically.Andthiscomesfromaracecalled thePeridians.AndthePeridians
areapparentlytheforerunnerstotheSith.Sothisisgoinglike, wayback
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before,likethe wholeRuleofTwo,theSith Lords,allthatstuff.This
isway,wayback.Sothis photoisreallyinteresting. Andthereason whyis
becausetheshowSkeletonCrewwasoften viewed, especiallywhenwegotthattrailerthatdroppedalittlewhileago.It'soften
(17:59):
beenspokenaboutandviewedasthiskindofalmostdetachedbitofStarwarsstorytellingwhereitdoesn't.Itdoesn'tfeellikethere'slightsabers init.
There'sno,youknow,there'slittle bitstodowith
the Force,butthere'sno.There'snolightsabers.There'snoJediversusSith. There'snot.It'snot
(18:20):
likeyour typicalStar warsthing.Andit wasmeant.Well.It'softenbeenperceivedasthislittleGoonies
inspace thingthat'slikethisstoryoutontheperiphery that'sitsownfunlittle,littlething.However,basedon
thisphotoand alittlebitmoreinformationthat'sdropped,we nowknowthatSkeleton
Crew isn'tconfirmedtobesetinwhat's called WildSpace,whichis
(18:44):
an unexploredsectorofspacethatincludesthevery outskirtsofthegalaxy.
So itlookslikethis isgoingtocontinuethe.Someofthethings thatthey.
Theydidin Ahsoka.So whatImeanis,inAhsoka, theykindof,youknow,whenthey
(19:07):
did thewholethingwheretheytraveledto thefirsttimethat
inliveaction,at least theytraveledtoPeridia,whichisthatsortofextragalacticworldthat seemedtopinpointtheoriginofthe
Empire,whichwasEvenolderthanthe JediOrder andallthatstuff,youknow,with
thewholewhalesthing.Andthey,theywenttooutsideofthe,thetypicalStarwarsgalaxy.So itlooks
(19:31):
likethisconnectionbetweenthetwoshowsis,isnow confirmedbecausethePeridians,
suchassaidforerunnerstotheSith inAhsoka, theygotoPeridia.AndnowinSkeletoncrew,withthisphoto,JudeLaw'scharacteris
studying Urquhart,whichisthelanguageof thePeridians
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andtheforerunnersoftheSith.Sothere'sactuallyabitofaconnection herebetweentheseshows.Sothat'sreally
interesting.Iwouldsaythatthe,thebulkofthisshowisprobablystillgoing tobethe
Goonies inSpacevibe.That'swhatitlookedlike,looksliketome.But. But
basedontheselittlenuggetsofinfo thatwe'venowgotandtheseextrapicks,itfeelslikethere'sgoingtobeanundertoneofsome,
(20:17):
somedeeperStarwarslorethat'sgoingto goon here.SoI'mnot
sureifthis isgoingtobeanothersubtlelittleretcon,whichthey, whichtheykind
ofdidwithAhsoka, Iguess.Yeah,they kindofdid that. So
who knows.Butatleastagain,thisisgoodnews.Atleastwe'vegotsomeextra info
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that's gonnakeepthehypegoingalittle bitforskeletonCrewwhenthat,whenthatlands
shortly.Sotherewego.ThatskeletoncrewonthesurfaceatleastlookslikeafunStrangerThingsGoonysortofthing.Butitlookslikewearegetting somecool,
moreStarwarslore throwninthere,which isreallygood.SoI'm,I'mreallyinterested
(21:04):
inthisshow.Ithink it's.Idon'tthinkit'sgoingtosettheworldon fire.Idon'tthinkit's
goingtobeuptherewithsomethinglikeMandalorianseasononeandtwo and,and
thatstuff.However,Ithinkthisisgoingtobe betterthantheAcolyte,
whichIknowisnot.Which,dependingonyour viewontheAcolyteis
notgoingtobethatdifficult.ButIdothinkthisis goingto haveafun,A
(21:28):
fun Avibeto it.So,yeah,Ican'trememberwhenthislands.Ithink.I'm sureit'sinDecember
ortheendofNovember,somethinglikethat.December3rd. Therewego.
That's whenitstartsstreamingonDisneyPlus.Sonot toolong
to wait.TheendofOctobernow.Sothisisprobably seven,eightweekstogo.SothatisyourStarwarsnewsroundup.Andthatwill
(21:51):
conclude episode235,SparkofRebellion.Cheersears.Star warslistener.It'sWe've
hadacoupleofinterestinglittlestoriesthere breakinregardsto
(22:15):
upcomingStarwarsmoviesnow.Yeah,it'snosurprise,is it?I'm99
sure thatifMarkwashereandwewere talkingthrough this, hewouldn't
besurprisedonebit.Youknow,aswe'retalkingthroughthesestories, hissurprise
facewouldjustbeblankexpression.AndI'massumingyourswereverysimilaras well,listeners.Soit'sone
(22:37):
ofthosethings,isn'tit?Idon'tknow.Idon'tknowwhat's goingon
overthere.Butyeah,hopefullybetter newsisaroundthecorner,I'dimagineinthenewyear.Iwouldsay.Idon'tthink
we'regoing to getanythinggroundbreaking oranything
tooheavyfortheremainderof2024.Sowe'll probablygetsomebignewsonstuffnextyear.
Whetherthatwillcometofruition,who knows.Butfornowatleastwe'vegot
(23:00):
skeletoncrewaroundthecorner.Sothankyouforlisteningtoanotherepisode.Iwillbe backeithersoloorwithMarknextweekfor
episode236wherewe'llrunthroughall thelatestStarwarsnews.So
makesureyouarefollowingorsubscribingto theshow.Whereveryougetyourpodcasts,justgiveusalikeandafollowsoyougetthe
(23:22):
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(23:46):
willseeyounexttime.Sountilthen,takecare of yourselvesandmaytheForce
bewithyoualways.
Hello there and welcome toSpark of Rebellion. This is your
weekly Star wars podcast andwelcome to episode 235. Welcome aboard
another episode, everyone. Myname is Garry, I'm ofyour cohosts
hereatSparkRebellionandit'soneofthoseweeks whereit'sasolo
(00:36):
showformeasmycohost.Markiscurrentlyreallybusywiththedayjob.He'shadto doabitofa.Bit
ofa layoveroverinDatdare,London to get some workdone.Sohe's
that there London to get somework done. So he's unfortunately
unavailable merunningthroughalittlebitofnews.We weregoingtoleaveitthis
weekbut.ButsomereasonablybignewshasdroppedinrelationtoupcomingStar warsmoviesandthestatus
(01:00):
ofacertaincoupleoffilms. I'mgoingto runyouthroughthatstuffandalsoatastylittletidbitwhichcouldrevealsomeinteresting
stuffforthe Skeleton crew,TVepisode orTV seriesthat'sgoingtolandliterallyinwhat,six
weekstime,eightweekstime,something likethat.SoI'mgoingtorunthroughthatwith
(01:22):
youaswell.Soyeah,myname'sGarry.I'moneof yourhosts andIhopeyou
havehadacrackingweek.Ihopeyou've donesomethingStarWarsyand
ifnot,I hopeyouarelookingforward tosomethingStar
Warsy. Whether it'stheupcomingBlu Rays.They'regoing tolandsoon.Ithink
it'sseasonthreeoftheMandalorianandAhsoka.They'redroppingon blu
(01:45):
ray and4kblurayveryshortly.Soyeah,if that's yourbag
andyou'reintoyourphysicalmediaandallthat stuff,byallaccountstheyshouldlook
reallygoodaswell.Anythingthat'sthat'sfilmedwithareallydecent quality
stuffasthe StarWarsTVstreamingstuff is,thenthat'lllookreallygoodontheold
big.Theoldbig4KTVwithaDolbyVision,allthatstuff.So yeah,gotsomecool
(02:10):
stufftolookforwardto.There'salsorumorsofabigVenatorStarshipLegosetdroppingaswellsoon, whichishuge,thousandsofpieces.Bitof
adetailedinterioraswell.Thatmightbe coolwithChristmasaroundthecorner.So
keepaneyeoutforthat.We'llletyouknowifthat's goingtodrop.But
otherthanthat,yes,I hopeyouarekeepingwell.Thisisepisode 235andmakesureyou'refollowing
(02:38):
orsubscribingtothispodcastinwhateverappyouget yourpodcastsonsoyouwon'tmiss236onwardswe
putanewepisodeoutmostweeksnormallywhere it'smuchmyselfandmycohostonwafflingthroughallthenews.Ifoneofusisn'taroundwe'llpop
asoloshow outorwemighttakeaweek off hereandthere.Butgenerallyspeakingitisa
(02:59):
weeklypodcastepisodesosomakesure youareyouarefollowingtogetallofthatstuff.Andahugebigthankyoutoour
membersandsupporterswhosupport us over@sparkbellion.com
forwardslashsupport.Denise,Danny,Pascal,Kev,Mark, allyouguys
(03:20):
areveryverycoolandthankyouverymuchforyourcontinuedsupport.And ifyou
want tolobussomebeermoneyifyoulikewhatwe dohereat
SparkRebellionthenyoucandothatas well.AsIsaidsparkrebellion.com
support.Youcanalsohitusuponthesocialsifyouwanttochat Star
warswewepostlittletidbitsthroughouttheweekinbetweenepisodes. Socomeandgetinvolvedoverthere.We'reonTwitter,Instagram,threads,allthatstuff.Justdoa
(03:43):
searchforSparkofRebellionpodcastoryoucangotosparkrebellion.comTwitter or/instagramthatwilltakeyou
straightoverthere. Giveusalike andafollowandandstartchattingwith
us about alltheStarwarsthings. Right,withoutfurther ado,let'scrackintoafewofthesestoriesthathavelandedforthisweek.Thenthefirstoneand
thisthefirsttwostoriesarekindofweirdbecausetherearepolaroppositesof what'sactuallyhappeningwithacertainproject.Soa
(04:12):
fewdaysagoDaisyRidleywasdoingsomepressforadifferentfilm.Itwasfor amoviecalledMagpiewhichiswhichwasdoingtherounds
in termsof pressjunketsandwhatnot. AndColliderweredoing
theirpresseventsandtheyweredoingaQAwithwith Daisyandandhercostarandsomeotherpeople.Andasisalwaysthecase,anyonethat's
(04:42):
ever beeninStarwars,regardlessofwhatever projectthey'rebeinginterviewedon,thesubjects
will alwayscomeroundtosomething todowithStarWars.
AndbecauseDaisyRidleyandtheupcoming,supposedlyupcomingfilm thatshe's
meanttostarin,thenewJediOrderstuffthat'squite hotintermsofStar
wars newsattheminute.So it'snosurprisethatshewasaskedaboutStarwars andshe
(05:07):
saidtheyaskedhercanyougiveussome moreinformationabouttheprogressofNewJediOrder?Shesaid
veryShortandsweetthingsareevolving.Icontinue tobeveryexcited.Therewillbe
anupdatesoon.Sothat'swheresheleftit.She didn't alludeto
anything.Shedidn't expand onthatat all.Justniceandtothepoint.Andthis
(05:30):
waspublishedtwodaysago.SothiswasWednesday23rdOctober 2024.
Nowthatwouldhavegotfansexcitedif therewasn't thiswholestormaroundthefilmbeingputonhiatusor
indefinitelypaused,whatever.Thelastthingthatweheardthatwasactualsomething tangible
(05:54):
that was,sorry,factualoutofLucasfilmorDisneywasthatthefilm wasputonhold
just becausetheyweren'thappywiththescript.Potentiallyabitofthestory.Sonarrativelyitwasn'tquiteclicking.Sotheywhackedit onholdand
wewerejustgoingtowaittohearwhatwasgoingto happen atsomepoint,presumablynextyear,aswehadaverysimilar
(06:14):
situationwiththeKenobiserieswherewe were lookingforwardtothat.
Andthenthere was abit ofapauseandthenEwanMcGregorcameoutand said,youknow,
don'tworryaboutit.Youknow,thishappensallthetimewith TVandfilm.Justneedsabitofrefinement
withthestorytomakesurewe've.We'rereallyhappywithitandthenwe'llbebackonboard.So itseemedlikethatwasgoingtobethedealforthis.So
(06:36):
thiswasacoupleofdaysago,nothingreallyhappenedofficially. AndthenDaisyRidleysaidthatshewasexcitedandthere'llbean
updatesoon.Butthentherug hasbeenpulledoutfrombeneatheverybodywiththis.So thisis
astorythatwasbroadcastyesterday.Thiscomesfromvariety.comwhichannounces officiallythatthenewJediOrder,theDaisy
(07:01):
Ridleyfilm,haslostitsscreenwriter,StephenKnight.He hasdepartedtheprojectandwe'renotreallysurewhyatthispoint.So
VarietysaythatbackinMarch2023,theyexclusively reportedthat
StephenKnighthadsignedontotheprojectandhe replacedtheoriginalscreenwriters,
(07:22):
whichwerewhoareDamonLindelhofandJustinBrittGibson.Thoseare the
twoguysthatkickstartedtheproject.IthinktheyleftStephenKnight,thenhoppedon.Now itseems
thatStephenKnighthas nowleft.Sohedidn't last.Hedidn'tlast very
long onthisoneandhasalreadydonethe offski.So,yeah,twostories
(07:48):
andataleoftwohalves.We'renotsure whetherDave,
Daisyreally.Daisyreallywasawareof thisandshesaidthatwas
happeningbecauseinherstatementadayortwo beforethis,shesaysthat
shecontinues tobeExcitedandthere'll be anupdatesoon. Maybefromher
(08:08):
pointof view,shewas justtoldbysomebody,oh,yeah,we'regoingto make.We'regoing
tobreaksomenewsaboutthis.Potentiallynotthenews thatshewashopingfor.Oritcouldjustbethatthis
has blindsidedeverybody.Therewasmeanttobe adecentupdateaboutthefilm,
andthen StevenKnight'sdecidedtoleave.Sothey've hadto pausewhatevertheyweregoingtoannounceandnowsaythattheproject'sgoneback
(08:31):
afewpacesandwhatever.So.Oh,man. Asusual,alittlebitofamess,really,with,withwhat'sgoingonoveratLucasfilmandDisneywhereitconcernsStarWars.And
wereallydon'tknowwhat'sgoingtohappenatthispointbecausethe whole,thewholereasonwhytheypauseproductionorpre
productiononitisbecausetheyweren'thappywiththescriptandsome ofthenarrative
(08:53):
and soon.Sowhenyouhaveyour,yourscreenwriterleave,it'sobvious youcanreadbetweenthelinesalittlebit.Althoughthere's
noofficialwordastowhyhe'sleft.Wecanreadbetweenthelinesandsay,right,okay, themovie
waspausedbecausetheyweren'thappywiththescriptandnow thescreenwritersleft.It'sclearthat
(09:14):
hewasn't happywithwhatcertainpeoplewherethedirection theywantedtogoin.
Heobviously wantedtotakethefilmincertaindirectionthathasn'treallygone down
thatwell,itseems.Sohe'slike,well, soditthen.I'll seeyoulater.Goodluckwith
whoeverelse yougetontodoit.Sothat's,that'swhatit seemsintermsof
timinganyway,whatitseemshashappened.Sothere'snoofficialwordonwho'sgoing to
(09:37):
replacehim.AllweknowfromVariety isthatLucasfilm
isactivelytalkingwithpotentialwriters who
cannowtakeonthestoryandpushit.Butthatdoesmeanthat,as Varietysayhereaswell,thatthedelayhaslikelypushed
productionbackuntilwellinto2025attheleast,before theyget
(09:58):
thissortedandgetthescript.Sotheyneedto getanotherscreenwriterorscreenwritersin,fixwhatevertheywantedtofix,
tweakit,whatever.Oncethey'vedone that,thenitneedstogothrough,youknow,
thatprocessagainofgettingschedulessorted out andalltheproduction
stuff,logistics.So,guys,Ithinkthisisgoingtobe. IthinkthisRayfilmisgoingtogo
(10:21):
one of twoways. ThisdawnoftheJedifilm.It'seithergoingto beprobablya
2027releaseonthisOne which Ithinkthat's goingtoconflicta littlebitwithsomeoneelse's
film,which I'llgetontoinasecondbecausethiswasmeanttobe, ifI'm
correctin,inrememberingthis,this wasmeanttobea 2026 releasebecause
(10:45):
MarkandIspokeaboutLucas'sfilmsschedule that
theyreleasedacoupleofmonthsago.Andwewent tohavetwo
filmsin2026,onearoundMay,June, Ithink,andthenoneat Christmas.AndweguessedthatoneofthemwasgoingtobethisRaymovie.Butwho
knowswhat'sgoingtohappenwiththisnow?Sothiswill either benowa2027releasefilmorifthis
(11:12):
carrieson,they'reprobablyjustgoingtocountitandunfortunatelydowhatthey've donewith
afewotherprojectsoverthelastfiveorsixyears,whereitseemslikethings have
gottoacertainstage,acertainbitof. Theykickedthecandown theroad
andthenthey'vejustdecided,youknow what,this isjustmore, moretroublethan
it'sworth,sowe'llgetridofit.So, yeah,that'sthe, that'sthedealiowith
(11:34):
thedawn,thenewJediOrderfilm.Raythinksitwasgoingtobe cool.Sorry,Ray.
DaisyRidleythoughtitwasgoingtobecool.Expectinganupdate.She'sexcited.Andthenliterallywithin 24hours,thescreenwritersleftandit'sabitof
amessalready.Sowewillkeepyouupdated.Starwarslistening,ofcourse,if wegetanymorenewson
(11:55):
anynewscreenwritersthathavejumpedon boardandanyprogressandwhatnot.Butfornow,I
wouldjustforgetaboutthisfilmfornow.It'sgoingtobeawhilebeforetheygetanything moving
again.So,yeah,I'dforgetaboutthisoneforaweebit.Movingontosomemoremovienewsthough,andthis isslightlymorepositive.It's
nothing,nothingtooheavy,nobigconfirmationoranything. Butremember
(12:20):
endoflastyear,beginningofthisyear,wespokeaboutJamesMangold's dawnoftheJedifilm.Thatseemedtobetickingalongreasonablynicely.Therewasn't
anybigcontroversyaroundJamesleavingorstayingor,youknow,theproductionbeingindefinitely on,onpauseoranyofthatrubbishthatwe'vegotsomeof
(12:44):
theother projects.Andifeveryinterviewthathedid,andagain,whenthesubjectgot ontoStar
wars,hewasalwayslike,yep,youknow,there'snoreasontoworryaboutanythingat the
minute.We'revery,veryearlyoninproduction.I'mtickingalongnicely with
itfornow.It'sallgoodandhewas.Hewasinterviewedrecently,andthiswasfor. Thiswasfor.Wherewas
(13:17):
heinterviewedonthisfor?Sohewasbasicallydoing aroundagain,likethisDaisyRidleythingwiththeMagpie
film.Hewasdoingtheroundsaboutadifferentproject.So hislatestthingthathewantstogetrocking
androllingisthisBobDylanbiopicwhichismeanttocomeoutthisDecember.And that
(13:41):
projectiscalledACompleteUnknown,theBobDylanThing.Andsourceshavenow saidthatthey'reaware
ofJamesMangold'sschedule,His.Hiscreativeschedulefor hisupcomingprojects.
Now,thiscomes fromapersoncalledDaniel Reitman.SoheisapparentlyasourcewithinthesortofHollywoodindustryandwhatnot.He's.Heoftengetsthescoopon,like,
(14:09):
theMarvel stuff.DisneyLucasfilmapparentlygetsascoopon stuff.And
heissayingthataftertheCompleteUnknownisfinishedanddone,he's alldonewiththat.
ApparentlyhisnextprojectisgoingtobetheStarwars film.Sodawn
oftheJedicouldstartfilmingnextyear.So thisisgreatnews,obviously.Soweknow,obviously,thatdawnoftheJedi
(14:34):
isgoingtoexploretheoriginsoftheJedi,takingplaceway backin,like,theearliesterathatweknowof,withinstarwars,about25,000
years,preSkywalkerstuffandalltherestofit.Sothat'salwayssoundedveryintriguing.LikewhenMarkandIfirstspokethroughtheconceptforthefilm,wewerebothlike,you know,we.Our
(15:01):
interestwaspeaked. We'relike,okay,thiscould becool,becausewe'venevergoneback
thatfarbefore.We'veneverseenthe originsoftheForceandhowtheJedifoundout
abouttheForceandhowthey.Then,youknow,whicheverwayaroundyou wanttodoit,whethertheForce
createdthe.TheJediwayorwhethertheJediweresomethingelsetobeginwithand thentheyadoptedtheForce
(15:25):
and allthatstuff,we've noidea.Soit was.Itdoes soundlikeaverycoolthing.Andthe
goodnews is, sofar, Touchwood,fingerscrossed,thingsaremoving inthe
rightdirectionforJamesMangold'smovie,whichiswhatwewant to
hear.Soin.InstarkcontrasttothenewJediOrderfilm,thisoneseemstobeokay.Now,Idon'tknowthehow.HowgoodthisDanielReitman thingiswiththevalidity
(15:56):
ofscoopsandleaksoranythinglikethat.Youknow,it'sjusta sourcethatthisiscoming
from.WorldofReal,bytheway.Worldofreal.comRE ELNotrealasin,youknow.Andsowe'llkeepthepost
onthisoneas well,but sofar,sogood.Andthenlastly,Ijust wantto
(16:19):
finishuponthisweelittleupdatethatwe'vegotfor Skeleton
Crew,whichhintsatsome.Something elsethat'swaybackin
thepast, whichistheoriginsoftheSithforerunners and alsoaslightconnection
withtheAhsokastuff.SoEmpireMagazine, theirlatestissue,they'vegot
(16:43):
some.They've gotawholesectiononSkeletonCrew,andthey'veputa newora
coupleofnewphotosinthere.Andoneofthemisthecharacter,youknow,JudeLaw's character.That'swho'squoteunquote,aJedi.
There'sapictureofhim,andhe'sstudyingwhat lookslikeinscriptionsona.Onacavewallsomewhere.Andwhatwethinkhe'sstudyingisa
(17:15):
languagecalledUrquitat,whichis theearlyversion
ofthe Sith language,basically.Andthiscomesfromaracecalled thePeridians.AndthePeridians
areapparentlytheforerunnerstotheSith.Sothisisgoinglike, wayback
(17:39):
before,likethe wholeRuleofTwo,theSith Lords,allthatstuff.This
isway,wayback.Sothis photoisreallyinteresting. Andthereason whyis
becausetheshowSkeletonCrewwasoften viewed, especiallywhenwegotthattrailerthatdroppedalittlewhileago.It'soften
(17:59):
beenspokenaboutandviewedasthiskindofalmostdetachedbitofStarwarsstorytellingwhereitdoesn't.Itdoesn'tfeellikethere'slightsabers init.
There'sno,youknow,there'slittle bitstodowith
the Force,butthere'sno.There'snolightsabers.There'snoJediversusSith. There'snot.It'snot
(18:20):
likeyour typicalStar warsthing.Andit wasmeant.Well.It'softenbeenperceivedasthislittleGoonies
inspace thingthat'slikethisstoryoutontheperiphery that'sitsownfunlittle,littlething.However,basedon
thisphotoand alittlebitmoreinformationthat'sdropped,we nowknowthatSkeleton
Crew isn'tconfirmedtobesetinwhat's called WildSpace,whichis
(18:44):
an unexploredsectorofspacethatincludesthevery outskirtsofthegalaxy.
So itlookslikethis isgoingtocontinuethe.Someofthethings thatthey.
Theydidin Ahsoka.So whatImeanis,inAhsoka, theykindof,youknow,whenthey
(19:07):
did thewholethingwheretheytraveledto thefirsttimethat
inliveaction,at least theytraveledtoPeridia,whichisthatsortofextragalacticworldthat seemedtopinpointtheoriginofthe
Empire,whichwasEvenolderthanthe JediOrder andallthatstuff,youknow,with
thewholewhalesthing.Andthey,theywenttooutsideofthe,thetypicalStarwarsgalaxy.So itlooks
(19:31):
likethisconnectionbetweenthetwoshowsis,isnow confirmedbecausethePeridians,
suchassaidforerunnerstotheSith inAhsoka, theygotoPeridia.AndnowinSkeletoncrew,withthisphoto,JudeLaw'scharacteris
studying Urquhart,whichisthelanguageof thePeridians
(19:52):
andtheforerunnersoftheSith.Sothere'sactuallyabitofaconnection herebetweentheseshows.Sothat'sreally
interesting.Iwouldsaythatthe,thebulkofthisshowisprobablystillgoing tobethe
Goonies inSpacevibe.That'swhatitlookedlike,looksliketome.But. But
basedontheselittlenuggetsofinfo thatwe'venowgotandtheseextrapicks,itfeelslikethere'sgoingtobeanundertoneofsome,
(20:17):
somedeeperStarwarslorethat'sgoingto goon here.SoI'mnot
sureifthis isgoingtobeanothersubtlelittleretcon,whichthey, whichtheykind
ofdidwithAhsoka, Iguess.Yeah,they kindofdid that. So
who knows.Butatleastagain,thisisgoodnews.Atleastwe'vegotsomeextra info
(20:40):
that's gonnakeepthehypegoingalittle bitforskeletonCrewwhenthat,whenthatlands
shortly.Sotherewego.ThatskeletoncrewonthesurfaceatleastlookslikeafunStrangerThingsGoonysortofthing.Butitlookslikewearegetting somecool,
moreStarwarslore throwninthere,which isreallygood.SoI'm,I'mreallyinterested
(21:04):
inthisshow.Ithink it's.Idon'tthinkit'sgoingtosettheworldon fire.Idon'tthinkit's
goingtobeuptherewithsomethinglikeMandalorianseasononeandtwo and,and
thatstuff.However,Ithinkthisisgoingtobe betterthantheAcolyte,
whichIknowisnot.Which,dependingonyour viewontheAcolyteis
notgoingtobethatdifficult.ButIdothinkthisis goingto haveafun,A
(21:28):
fun Avibeto it.So,yeah,Ican'trememberwhenthislands.Ithink.I'm sureit'sinDecember
ortheendofNovember,somethinglikethat.December3rd. Therewego.
That's whenitstartsstreamingonDisneyPlus.Sonot toolong
to wait.TheendofOctobernow.Sothisisprobably seven,eightweekstogo.SothatisyourStarwarsnewsroundup.Andthatwill
(21:51):
conclude episode235,SparkofRebellion.Cheersears.Star warslistener.It'sWe've
hadacoupleofinterestinglittlestoriesthere breakinregardsto
(22:15):
upcomingStarwarsmoviesnow.Yeah,it'snosurprise,is it?I'm99
sure thatifMarkwashereandwewere talkingthrough this, hewouldn't
besurprisedonebit.Youknow,aswe'retalkingthroughthesestories, hissurprise
facewouldjustbeblankexpression.AndI'massumingyourswereverysimilaras well,listeners.Soit'sone
(22:37):
ofthosethings,isn'tit?Idon'tknow.Idon'tknowwhat's goingon
overthere.Butyeah,hopefullybetter newsisaroundthecorner,I'dimagineinthenewyear.Iwouldsay.Idon'tthink
we'regoing to getanythinggroundbreaking oranything
tooheavyfortheremainderof2024.Sowe'll probablygetsomebignewsonstuffnextyear.
Whetherthatwillcometofruition,who knows.Butfornowatleastwe'vegot
(23:00):
skeletoncrewaroundthecorner.Sothankyouforlisteningtoanotherepisode.Iwillbe backeithersoloorwithMarknextweekfor
episode236wherewe'llrunthroughall thelatestStarwarsnews.So
makesureyouarefollowingorsubscribingto theshow.Whereveryougetyourpodcasts,justgiveusalikeandafollowsoyougetthe
(23:22):
automaticnotificationwhenanewepisodelands,whichwillbeeverySaturday. Youcanalsolistenonlineover@sparklevallion.comandonceagain,
thankyousomuchtooursupportersover@sparklevallion.com support.That'swhereyou
cansignupaswellifyouliketheshow.Youwanttolob ussomebeermoney.Thankyouverymuchforall
your continued support.It's.It'svery, verymuchappreciated.Andonthatnote,we
(23:46):
willseeyounexttime.Sountilthen,takecare of yourselvesandmaytheForce
bewithyoualways.
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