Live Action Clone Wars, Good Idea?

Hell there, Star Wars fans! Welcome to episode 234.

We kick off with the future of the Obi-Wan Kenobi series, sparked by Ewan McGregor's recent remarks about potential storylines for a second season. The hosts reflect on the original series' reception, noting that while many fans appreciated McGregor’s return, others felt the series fell short of expectations. This dichotomy sets the stage for an exploration of how future content can better resonate with the audience while remaining faithful to the established lore. We also touch on the intricacies of storytelling, emphasising that any new series should not simply rehash past narratives but should instead build upon them, enriching the characters' journeys and deepening the emotional stakes.

Other news throughout the galaxy:

• We pay tribute to the late Robert Watts, acknowledging his contributions to the original trilogy and the importance of recognising his behind-the-scenes talent that shaped the Star Wars legacy.
• An upcoming documentary on John Williams has us excited, discussing how his musical genius has elevated the storytelling of Star Wars and other iconic films.
• A couple of amazing props are going up for auction next week in London including a screen-matched Sandtrooper helmet from the icon "Move along" scene as well as Yoda's cane. Oof, if only we had a recent lottery win!
• Fans have got their knickers in a twist as actor Will Poulter would throw his hat in for the live casting of Cal Kestis. Yep, fandom, lol.

Lastly, we tackle the tantalising idea of adapting the Clone Wars into a live-action format, a prospect that excites some fans while raising concerns for others. Could an adaptation live up to the beloved animated series while focusing on the darker, more brutal aspects of war that defined the Clone Wars? There's the potential for exploring character relationships, particularly the dynamics between Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Padmé, as well as the emotional fallout from the choices they make.

The news stories from around the galaxy that we discussed on this episode...

• Iconic ‘Star Wars’ Helmet Could Be The Memorabilia You’re Looking For
• "It would be so disrespectful not to cast him": Will Poulter Was Never the Best Choice to Play Cal Kestis as Fans Demand Cameron Monaghan to Make His Live Action Star Wars Debut
• Ewan McGregor Says Disney & Lucasfilm Are "Exploring" Ideas For 'Star Wars: Obi-Wan Kenobi' Season 2
• Music by John Williams | Official Trailer | Disney+ - Jedi News
• Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy Pays Tribute to Robert Watts - Jedi News

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we're going to drive straight into
some discussion on something that's
been popping up on socials I think
for the last few weeks now. I've
certainly seen it for a few weeks.
It's an interesting idea. So we're
going to dive into that. So stick
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hosts. Let's bring on the dude, my
co host. It's the guy that foolishly
thinks still that Sam, people do
not travel single file to hide their
numbers. Did Mister Mark Asquith.
Howyou doing, dude?

(01:59):
I'm all right, thanks, mate.That's just a vicious rumor spread
bythe natives.
As vicious, is it?
Leave the sand people alone.
That's the only rumor?
Yeah, the only room, the onlyone solid, otherwise sound, sound
people, good people, good people.
Yes,indeed. I'm alright, mate, thank
you.Yeah, yeah, yeah. I been blasting
through that galactic empire book.
It's really good. Really good.

(02:25):
Is the progress, like, waymore accelerated than.
Yeah, significantly. Yeah,because it's, like, cohesion. And,
you know.
That still cracks me up, dude.Like, we went for literally months.
Don't think. Star wars. He still
reading that book in ith.
I don't know how long it tookme, actually. I should look on my
goodreads. Like, if it's quick to
do this, I will look. And if it's
not, then I'm not gonna. Where is
it? Red. So what did it take me?
Does it do it in day order? Just
loading, that's all.

(02:58):
Good reads.
Yeah, that's good. Right, herewe go. The living force. Yeah. Three
months and eight days.
Crikey.
Well, to put this in context.Allegiance. So I read some of the
old legends. Took me a month. Choices
of one month. Dynasty of evil. Christ.
That took me two week. Two week for
the. All the Darth Bane ones. Took
me like two week, if that.

(03:29):
I think the thrawn ones, youblasted through those relatively
quickly.
Yeah, I did, I did, I did.It's like I said, I don't want to
be up on it, and I will talk about
itin more depth, I'm sure, at some
point. But I'd be keen to know what
everyone else thought of this one
on Twitter or any of the patrons,
any ofthe people supporting us. Like, if
you've read the living force, what's
the drill? Just felt too much. Just
too much going on.

(03:52):
I need to read. I've got it.I've just not read it yet. And I
think you're ready for it. Well,
you're not your review, but your
thought process and the way that
you've spoken about it doesn't make
me want to read it, put it that way.
Exactly.
I will at some point.
Sorry about that.
That's right. Talking of oldJJM, Kate and Batman book next week,
dude.

(04:16):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very good.
I'm keen for that.
Yeah. Needed. I think they'vedone a few bits with the old Batman.
Remember the comics came out a couple
years ago, you had, like, 89 Batman,
and then you had.
Yeah, they were good.
Yeah, not too bad. So I thinkwe need some more. Some more Keaton
stuff.
Yeah, it's funny, isn't it?Get that resurgence now that everyone
that was a kid back then has got
abit of spare money.

(04:40):
Oh, it's the way, mate. It'sthe way. Just big boys and their
toys, eh? Now they've got a bit of
spending money, bit of brass.
Keep it away from the missus.
Oh, what should we do withthat spare 50 quid we got.
Why don't we decorate the stairs?
Yeah. I'm not. I'm not sayingthis is an actual conversation that
took place in my house. I'm not going
to say that. Could be. Couldn't be.
But email from octopus energy the
other day, your usage has been way
below predicted, so we're going to
refund you this amount each month.
Sonow we're going to have, you know,
some spare change. What should we
do? Should we go to the garden center?

(05:19):
No. Spunk it on toys.
Let's not do that. Absolutelynot. Let's go to forbidden Planet,
though. See what they've got. Nothing
about plastic. Right? Let's dive
into some new, shall we? Dude, first
one, right? This is one that is like
a bit of a bobbin and weaving situation.
Since the first season drops, it's
always been a case of, will they
doanother one? Will they won't? Because
Ifind this weird, the reception to
this one. On one hand, I feel like
the original series of Obi Wan Kenobi
landed really well. I felt like six
episodes short and sweet to the point.
Pretty cool. Ewan McGregor was fantastic
as Obi wan. As always, I thought,
yeah,this landed pretty well. But then
when you dive into this a little
bitmore, either on Reddit or the socials,
whatever. Not that you pay attention
tothat too much anyway, but there's
quitea lot of people that thought this
was pretty average. Like, meh, I'm
not gonna say it was ten out of ten.
I'm not gonna say it was one. It
was like, there's a lot of people
thatfeel like this is. It was very middle
of the road. Like, we're talking
fivesixes out of ten, you know, watch
itonce. Enjoyed it. That was it. Which
surprised me because I honestly thought
it just. It. I don't know, maybe
thatwas my perception. It just seemed
toland a lot better than that. So since
that came out, and maybe because
ofthat reason, perhaps it's always
beena case of, are they going to come
back and do a second season? They
left it on a little bit of a cliffhanger,
Iguess, with Qui gon coming back,
andthat opens up the door to a lot more
conversations between those two and
what they can get up to. And seemingly
heleft Luke alone. He came to the realization
at the end of the season that Luke
just needs to be your average kid
and grow up to be your average kid.
And as long as he's left alone, nothing
should happen. He's in good hands,
blah, blah, blah, so he can go off
and do whatever he wants. And so
because of those reasons, it's like,
do we need a season two? I don't
know. Ewan McGregor was interviewed
recently and said, look, we're talking.
Yeah, we are kicking around some
ideas at the office for a season
two.So that's obviously nothing to buy
into as concrete, like, that's coming,
but that is a lot more progress than
just, I'd love to do it because that
was his line for a couple of years
after that or year after it came
out, it was always, are we gonna
getanother one? He's like, I'd love
todo another one. And that was it.
But now it's a case of we're talking
toLucasfilm, kicking ideas around,
blah,blah, blah, so he could be in for
asecond season, dude, what do you
reckon?

(08:00):
I think it's sort of, it's afunny one, isn't it? Because, like,
the fandom just doesn't like anything,
right? That's the thing. So I wouldn't.
We talked about it last week, and
I've been thinking about it this
week, like, just don't. Just don't
listen to them. That's probably the
best way, isn't it? Just don't listen
to those ones. I think there are
some challenges. I mean, you and
McGregor's always funny. Like, he
was, I don't know if you watched
theinterview, but it was like having
abit of band, having a bit of fun.
So, like, there was a guy booing
andit was like, did someone boo who
booed? That's great. Like, you know,
that's. I think that's what Star
wars needs, a little bit like that,
going out and being like, shut up.
Like, you know, we got this. We're
all right. You know, I'm you and
McGregor, I'm pretty good at this
stuff. And obviously the Clone wars
stuff, I think it's a very difficult
thing with Obi Wan season two because
people, the people that didn't like
it, didn't like that. There was a
black woman that was an inquisitor.
Let'sbe honest. That was it. Absolute
stupidity that people could even
think that. It's just moronic and
they didn't like the pace of it.
But it's tv, you know, it needed
tobuild up. Like, it built up. It needed
to show the way that Obi Wan was
feeling and basically getting his
ass dragged back in because of bail
organa and Leia, and it was just,
youknow, it was, it was an. I felt it
was a nice balance between action
anda character piece. I did. I thought
itdid all right. And I feel that when
people. When you see the flashbacks
andwhen you see the flashbacks in Ahsoka,
it's brilliant. It is brilliant.
And itfeels like what people want is, like,
a full season of that, because it
was. I saw it again yesterday on,
like, Instagram and all over. Oh,
would you want to watch a live action
clone wars tv show? Like, no, we
did that. It would be good. It would
be fantastic to see those two. But
what. What's the point? What's the
point? So I feel like we've got a
disjoint, like, these flashbacks
from ObiWan season two. You know, I mean,
it's gotta be a case of, like.

(09:55):
Right?
If we're gonna. They will do.If they do Obi Wan season two, it's
not gonna be a series of flashbacks.
It'snot gonna be like, here's Obi Wan
season two set fully in the clone
wars. Like, it isn't gonna be that.
So I think that leaves you with a
bit of a challenge, because you want
more Anakin, you want more Vader,
youwant more Hayden Christensen, you
want more interaction between them
two. But the reason it worked so
well in the first season is because
itmirrored what was going on in Obi
Wan's present. You know, the moves,
the aggression. That's how Obi Wan
bet him again, knowing how his emotions
would take over, and he knew what
todo. And we've seen that with Obi
Wan before with Darth Maul, when
helearned from what happened with qui
gon. So, like, that worked really
well. But you can't tread old ground.
Idon't think. I don't think you could
just do more of that. I don't think
there'll be any need for Vader and
Obi Wan to meet again. I don't think
there would be. I think Obi Wan's
nowgot ten years. It was closure for
him. He's got ten years now until
anew hope where he can get to the
point where he truly believes that
Anakin is dead, that he delivers
it soconvincingly. When Luke asks, you
know, he's got that ten year gap.
SoI feel like there wouldn't need to
be any more of that. We don't need
to see more of Vader and Obi Wan
inthe. In the imperial timeline. But
that's not to say there's not amazing
stories that couldn't be done. That's
not to say that you couldn't do a
bit of a mix of stories where, you
know, Luke's. Luke needs a bit of
a protector because he's just doing
stupid shit cause he's 14 or he's
getting into bother or his, you know,
biggs is taking him on. You know,
they're going out getting pissed.
Youknow what I mean? And that's very
flippant, but there's no reason that
you couldn't do a, you know, season
one of the mandalorian style vibe
with. With the undercurrent and the
subtext of what is going on out in
the galaxy. You know, you've got
mon Mothma, you've got bail organ
arestill around. We know that Andor
takes place six years after season
oneof Kenobi. So there's plenty of subtext
that you could deliver. You could
actually use that season two to tell
more of a story of the galaxy. But
underpinned through conversations
with bailorgana, you know, he's now got the
comlink. He can talk to Obi Wan,
andthen the consideration between him
and Qui gon as well. I do think there's
a lot of good stories that could
betold, and I think that Hayden Christensen
would be. There's absolutely no reason
that we couldn't see Vader in that
series. And the way that you angle
itis that the emperor said, you need
to sort of get over this Chaga. And
he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. No, no, no, I'm good, man.
I'mgood. Like, totally dialed in on
this inquisitor shit. Like, totally
dialed in on it. Definitely not doing
anything else. But actually, he is.
Like, he's still obsessed in his.
Sothere's definitely stories to be
told, but I think the mistake that
they would make would be putting
Vaderand Obi wan back together in that
timeline. Like, just use Ewan McGregor
and Hayden Christensen in the back
end and use the flashbacks as a way
of, you know, Vader's dealing with
some emotional stuff, whatever. It's
Empire Day, which is the anniversary,
the10th anniversary of Padme's death,
orwhatever. Use the flashbacks as a
way of showing how he and Obi wan
dealt with something regarding his
mum, for example, how that mirrors
howhe feels now. So there's so much
that could be done just for me. Just
don't make that mistake of going,
Vader, Obi Wan, we need a rematch
because I don't think we do.

(13:40):
Yeah, no, I agree.
There's your pitch, everyone.
There's your pitch. Not surehow many flaws that was, but it's
good. I like it. So I think, yeah,
it's. I mean, it's a. I'm sure there's
something in lore as well. I'm pretty
sure there's some. When Obi Wan first
went out, I'm pretty sure there was
something that said, this is the
last time that these two sort of
throw down. There aren't any more
instances where these two do their
thing. So, yeah, it would be. It
would be superfluous just to add
Vader back in for the sake of another.
Another go round, you know, so that.
Yeah, and the thing that I like about
Ewan McGregor as well is that he
recognizes that this is a finite
story, which is cool. So with a lot
of actors and a lot of series and
stuff, you just want to keep doing
itand doing it because. For many reasons,
I guess. But mainly, you know, you
want a bit of coin. You want that
Disney money, you know, as an actor,
you want to keep doing seasons and.
And all the rest of it. Like, longevity
seems to be a mark of success almost
for a lot of series. But Ewan's like,
no, no, no. From this point on, I
want to tell stories that take Obi
Wan where we left off at the end
ofseason one, up to the point where
wesee Alec Guinness as Obi Wan in a
new hope. So he understands that
there's a. You know, if they were
todo a season two, that really would
beit. Like, there'd be no season three
of this show. So that's cool. It
sounds like, you know, he just wants
to do. He just wants to tell a few
more stories.

(15:15):
And there's a lot of, like,reflection stuff in there as well.
There's a lot of stuff that could
bedone if you really wanted to get
into, like, the mythology of it all.
Like, qui gon's there. There's the
whole. What the fuck happened, dude?
You know, dude, what the fuck?
I leave you alone for 15years, man. What the actual fuck,
dude? What the hell?

(15:40):
Put the kettle on.
You're too busy pissing aroundwith your beard and your fancy hair.
Didn't catch me fucking about with
that shit. What did I end up doing?
That's right. Sorting stuff, dickhead.
Yeah, there probably would bean element of that as well. I can
imagine qui gon, you know, after
afew Guinness, like, mate, you have
let the ball drop just a little bit
with this one.

(16:03):
Yeah, it's like those YouTubevideos. You seen that, where they
imposed a face on and it's their
genius. They're hilarious. Yeah.
Ifeel like there is a lot that could
be explored, and I think, like, Hayden
Christensen and Ewan McGregor have
got that much Star wars goodwill
withmost of the fandom, that you could
write a pretty straightforward story
and probably stand a better chance
ofmore of the fandom liking it.

(16:34):
Hmm. Yeah.
You could even do silly littlethings where, you know, you've got
Obi Wan. Because we know in a certain
point of view that, like, Obi Wan
goes back and communes with Qui Gon
during the events of a new hope.
WhenLuke pisses off back to find Lars
and Beru, you know, Texas BBQ'd in
that gap, Obi Wan and Qui Gon have
alittle chin wag, and there's opportunity
for little things like that where
Luke can remain involved because
he'sgot to know him now. You know, it
gets to a point where Luke knows
himas old Ben Kenobi. It can't be just
from that one meeting, because he
wasn't really that old. He's not
going to be just like, oh, it's old
Ben Kenobi. He looked like 42 last
time I saw him, but he's probably
definitely old now. And it's just,
you know, you could deal with, like,
the latent force aspects of it, you
know, a little bit smallvilly, where
it's like, how's this guy always
inthe right place at the right time?
Why is the guy so lucky? You know,
almost leaning into the. Anakin was
really good at pod racing. Shit.
Howcan this guy shoot womp rats? Do
you know what I mean? And sort of
just start to. You could have a not.
I don't want to say fun, because
Starwars gets pissed off with fun, but
you could have very light hearted
elements to it as well. That would
really, I think, really work. You
know, if you're bouncing from, you
know, Vader choking someone out because
he's heard rumors of a Jedi that's,
youknow, that's been dealing with something,
and then it's Luke that's like, oh,
these womp rats are easy. Like, there's
that. There's some buoyancy in there
somewhere that I think Star wars
might benefit from.

(18:10):
Agreed. Yeah. I also like theidea of Obi Wan. Just to quickly
finishup. I like the idea of Obi Wan helping
out Luke now and then without Luke
knowing that sort of thing, because
Ithink you'd need to interject a little
bit of that as well. And just to
mention, for the 267th time, whatever
itis the original Star wars radio dramas,
NPR. If you've not listened to them
yet, go and listen to them. The first
one, which is a new hope. And the
good thing about those radio dramas
isthat they fill in a lot of the gaps
between the scenes from the films
that you didn't see. And the opening
sort of 1015 minutes of a new hope
is Luke just getting into some shit
on. On Tatooine with his mates. Like
speeder bike racing, you know, nearly
killing himself, wanting to be like
biggs, the record around, whatever.
Justgetting up to stuff that, you know,
all the teenagers did, you know,
inthat area. But because he's a little
bit. Wants to prove himself, wants
tobe one of the lads, all the rest
ofit, he's just a bit dangerous with
stuff. So you could see Obi Wan popping
up like, yeah, I used the force a
little bit and moved your bike around
so you didn't fucking smash into
awall and, you know, kill yourself,
sortof thing. And then there's other
bits, like where his uncle sends
himoff to whatever, I don't know, mo's
Eiseley to get some parts and runs
into, you know, not looking where
he's going, runs into someone like
that. Someone is like, you know,
abit of a bad news. Character, wants
to slice him down. Obi Wan interjects
alittle bit, saves him. Yeah. Cause
there's a bit in that radio drama
where the bit where he meets Luke
after he gets attacked by the sand
people, they have a bit of a conversation
and he's like, do you know what?
Ithink you've been sort of looking
outfor me, haven't you? Because I've
seen you around, and when you're
around, you know, I'm getting out
of scrapes and I'm safe. So cheers
forthat, Chaga. So there's a little
bitof that as well. They could do. They
could bring. And then they could
fastforward up to the end of it where
Sebastian Stanley, he's Luke, meets
whoever they cast as Alec Guinness.
Whatever you want.

(20:17):
Well, dude, I mean, that'sactually, like, quite a really interesting
point because there's a lot of reflection
that could happen there as well.
Youknow, you've got this all. You never
guess what's happened. Qui gon, he's
fucking done it again. Oh, he's like
his dad. He's like his dad, but he's
not as natural quite yet as his dad
is. You know what I mean? But, yeah,
but remember that shit on naboo?
Thatwasn't natural, was it? That was
potluck. And Artoo probably sorted
that out. You know, you could have,
Ifeel like the element of the loneliness
ofKenobi in season one could be really
kind of mitigated and built on now
that it can commune with qui gon
alittle bit. Plus, it can the reflections
ofhow does Obi Wan end up so peaceful
in anew hope? And there's actually a
really nice story there that we've
probably pitched, and there's just
alot in there that you could really
do.And I love the idea of actually fast
forwarding. You could even. I mean,
it would be a massive twist and shock
at the end, but the entire season
could literally be a recounting of
Luke. You know, Luke recounting these
things, and it's actually, that's
thespringboard for something else. And
it actually, shit. We have recast
Luke, and, like, I just. I don't
knowwhy they're not doing this. I don't
know why they're just not getting
MarkHamill to narrate some shit and be
like the tales of Luke Skywalker
and thenjust get Sebastian to play him in
the young. Like, it's money, right?
Itreally is money. And, like, if you
tied it to Kenobi, you can leave
themandoverse alone. You can leave all
that alone. That exists. It's doing
well. But there's this other interconnected
stuff back here. So, yeah, I mean,
Iknow they want to tread new ground
andall that stuff. And we talked about
it last week that's not working out
as well as they want. And I actually,
Kevmessaged to say he really enjoyed
thatepisode last week. And I was. I was.
I was. I appreciate that. I said,
thanks. And I said to. I said to
him that I've been my usual reading
this week, and it just appears that
there's been a lot of that this week.
The Hollywood reporter put something
out,saying a similar thing to what we
said. Why can't they stick the land
in? It might have been someone else,
like variety, but there was two or
three, certainly over the last couple
of weeks, that have all put that
time into reflecting on why Disney
can't get it right. And it feels
silly that, you know, we've got two
different time periods. They're not
exclusive. You can still do this
stuff that you're doing now, but
just maybe just try this other stuff
as well. Like, that's. It's almost
like being a business. Like, if we,
if we're building captivate out and
we don't listen to people, then more
fool us, you know, we may as well
listen to people.

(22:48):
This is a business. Yeah.
Fitness.
No, you're right, dude. I tellyou, Kath, put that Starbucks down.
I'm telling you now, if there's a
season two of Kenobi and these things
are in it, like we've just pitched
andmentioned, we're coming for you,
allright? We know Dave's solicitor down
at Barnsley. He's going to file a
suit. We'll be on it. So, circling
back,we might get a Kenobi season two.

(23:20):
Yeah.
Ewan's up for it. And also,they're talking about stuff, which
ismore than just, yeah, I'd love to
do it. So that's cool, dude. Old
Johnny. Old Johnny Williams, the
myth, the legend. You know the one.
Spoke to him a few times. New documentary
about him and his music and his work
over the. What's like, staggeringly
many,many years that he's been in the
industry. So we're talking about
this, obviously, from a Star wars
perspective, mainly. But I just.
Somany cool. So many cool themes that
have made our. I guess, have made
our childhood, in a way, and have
influenced, you know, a lot of stuff.
I mean, you're probably the same
asme. I probably listened to a piece
ofmusic by John Williams at least once
a week, I would say, whether it's
Star wars or, you know, whatever,
anything. And so Disney plus have
just made and put out, or about to
put out a new documentary called
Musicby John Williams, the official documentary.
And it's going to land on November
1.There's a Wii trailer. Check the
show notes. There's a link over to
go and have a wee look at that. And
it's got all the classics, right?
It'sgot all, you know, Jaws, Superman,
obviously, Star wars, home alone.
Allthese, like, cool stuff. Harry Potter.
So this will be worth a watch, right?
Just for a bit of a trip down memory
lane, check out all the themes that
he's done over the years. But also,
it's really nice to have some big
hitters, right, to basically say,
yeah, he's the man. He's like, Spielberg's
in there, Cath's there. Not with
aStarbucks. Lucas is there in his
plaid shirt. Absolutely. A web designer
in his former life. They're all just
like, you know, saying, he's just
aman. So in a way, this seems like
anobvious documentary, right? Because
he's John Williams. Seems like the
sort of guy that nobody's ever got
a bad word to say. So it seems like
an obvious one where it's just like,
yep, his music's amazing. He's amazing.
You know, that's all there is to
it. But you got old Johnny at the
piano. He's explaining some of the
chord progression, some of the movements,
the motifs. I think this would be
a good little watch, dude. Defoe.

(25:43):
Oh, it looks fantastic. Yeah.Really, really keen for this one.
I'm always interested in the composition
side of it and, like, a huge fan
ofthat element of it being a bit of
a museo. And I think it's nice and
rare to see someone that's so prolific,
sort of given the time to shine a
little bit and go into the process
alittle bit with such a high production
value, you know. Yeah, there'll be
interviews and there's things on
YouTube and whatever else, but to
actually dedicate a documentary on
Disney with a bit of budget and a
bit of time spent on it, I think
thisis a real treat, man. Very, very
keen for this. I think this will
besomething that I'll probably watch
within the first week of it dropping.
Without a doubt, man. It looks really,
really good.

(26:27):
Same. Yeah. So, November 1,you'll be able to check that out
onthe old Disney. Plus, another bit
of timely news. We had to say goodbye
to one of the original ogs from the
original trilogy. Robert Watts passed
away at the age of 86 recently, and
old cath paid tribute and said some
really nice words, actually. She
said it was a difficult day for the
company when they found out that
hehad passed. And she said not only
did he bring his own skills, the
production of several milestone films,
but also gave opportunities to so
many other important crew members
to doas well. If you don't know who Robert
Watts is, if you've seen any of the
documentaries about the original
Starwars, he was the guy that essentially
wasjust handling all of the stuff alongside.
I think it was Garry Kurtz was the
main producer on it, but he was the
guy that was down on set sorting
everything out, location work, sorting
out crew members, extras, doing all
that stuff. And he's got a little
coollittle directing credit as well,
fora new hope, I think he did a lot
ofthe third unit stuff and, you know,
he said that was always a proud little
moment for him. Nothing crazy, he
said. It was like he was the guy
that filmed, like, R 2d two's foot
coming down and moving across the
floor, and when they rushed to finish
the film and stuff. So, by all accounts,
a lovely guy. And, yeah, really important
in those early days of Star wars.
So,yeah, dude, one of the ogs has left
us.

(28:04):
Yeah, man. Always sad to seeit. It's nice that you get these
quality, really in depth, really
heartfelt obituaries as well. I think
that's important for people that
arebehind the scenes. Harrison Ford
orMark Hamill or Carrie Fisher or anyone
else that we know. James Earl Jones.
Alot of the time, they'll get a lot
of the limelight, rightly, but the
people behind the scenes that make
these things happen don't often get
that. So I think it's really nice
that that's happened to always sad
to lose people. But I think, you
know, it's nice that Star wars and
Disney put out the memories as well,
because, like I said, it's not always
these types of people that do get
that type of send off from the big
brand. So I think it's important
for thatto happen. So, yeah, it's a sad loss,
but nice that it's nice that it's
been handled so gracefully, I think.

(28:59):
Yeah, yeah. And depending onwhat sort of person you are, I'm
the sort of person that doesn't really
stay sad for long about these sort
of people just because it's more
ofa celebration of, you know, their
achievements and their legacy, really.
So it's just great. It's great to
see, like, all these old photos that
have been brought out now from Lucasfilm
and like you said, all of these people
that have come out and said cool
things, so sad. And he's left us,
but what a crack in legacy and loads
of other cool films as well. Not
just Star wars that he's worked on,
really, like, climbed the ranks,
basically, and went on to do some
cool stuff. So, yeah, Robert Watts
leaves us at the age of 86. It's
onto some casting stuff. A bit weird,
this one, because it's always seemed
like a no brainer, but then somebody
else has come into the fray and is
like, actually, no. Just because
helooks like the character doesn't
meanhe has to play him. So this goes
back to the thing that you and I
spoken about for many, many, well,
acouple of years, I guess, since the
first Jedi game came out fallen Order.
And Cameron Monaghan, who plays that
character, we've always said, like
many people, that it's a no brainer,
right. If they ever were to cast
alive action cal Kestis, then they
would. It would be the obvious choice
because not only is he the face of
the character in the video game,
andthey modeled that character pretty
much identical, you know, to the
actor's face and whatnot. He's actually
a seasoned actor himself. You know,
it's not like he's just a, like a
voice actor. They are actors, of
course, but it's not like he wasn't
anon screen actor and didn't have the
chops and everything. He's, you know,
he's done all the tv work and. And
all that stuff. But Will Poulter?
Is itWill Poulter? That's his name? Yeah.
Will Poulter was interviewed recently
and said he would throw his hat into
the ring as Cal Kestis, which has
got some fans of the Jedi games.
A bitlike, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Dude,
you know that spit that seats taken?
Yeah, back up a little bit. But he's
like, nah, nah, I'd like to do it.
So he was basically said, look, it'd
have to be, right? I mean, it has
to continue the story or the character
insome way. I don't want him to just
kind of show up and stand around
andbe there. I want him to be. I want
him to mean something and for there
to be a significance for the character
itself. So, yeah, if it would make
sense in the right context, then,
yeah, absolutely, I'll do it. So
this is a throwaway thing, right?
Hewas just interviewed in the midst
ofother stuff, just happened to be
brought up, and he was like, yeah,
I'd love to do it. Fandom's latched
onto it and has gone nuts and has
said, well, you know, you're not
welcome here, dude, while Cameron
Monaghan's still alive. So a bit
ofan interesting one, dude. It's a
throwaway line in an interview. Didn't
really mean much, but, yeah, fans
are not happy.

(31:47):
It's hilarious as well. Like,some of the baiting on Twitter from
the Daily Star wars games, whatever
thatTwitter account is, is brilliant.
Like,Cameron Monan would also be a good
choice, don't you think? Little pictures
out showing the similarities between
Cal Kestis and Monan. He's just like,
yes, well played. Yeah, I mean, this
is a nothing thing, is it? It's just
a classic Star wars thing. This where
some, like, literally someone goes,
be cool to play Carl Kessis. And
the guy's like, yeah, fucking course
it would. Like, that's like. It's
like Michael Keaton being asked,
becool to do Skywalker, though, wouldn't
it? And I'm going, yeah, of course
itwould. It's Luke Skywalker. And then
everyone going, no, don't cast him.
We've got one. And he's much better.
You're like, yeah, he wasn't saying
that he was gonna do it, man. It
was like someone said, wouldn't it
be cool? And he said, yeah, it'd
benice. So, yeah, a bit of a non story
in this regard, but it's just sort
of hilarious to see. I mean, I don't
know if camera monoun's gonna do
it in live action. I mean, it's one
of those, innit? Backs you into a
corner.

(32:48):
Yeah. You know, all thatFiloni verse stuff that's coming,
maybe.
I get it, man. But you've thenjust got though, what were you doing
during the galactic civil war?
Oh, yeah, did this thing,didn't I?
Yeah, they've done it with,like, ahsoka. They've had to do it
with, like, we know that fulcrum
was athing. We know that the Ezra. They
had to get Ezra out of the way. They
had to get thrown out of the way
sothat it was just like, oh, there's
onlya few of them. So I get it, but I
just. What's the best way to say
it? I prefer them to finish telling
kalkets a story first. Do that. Right.
Really? Like, do a good job of that
story, and then if he's still around
and it makes sense, fine. Sure.

(33:35):
Yeah. No, of course there is athird video game coming. They're
gonna.Yeah, there is not that trilogy.
Sothat'd be interesting. But I think
the only thing that would carry any
sort of weight with this character
isthat he was embedded quite a lot
within the inquisitor stuff. And
healso did come up against Vader, albeit
briefly. So he has. He has been that
as a character. He's been, you know,
he's not just an extra, like a glorified
extra, basically. He has done a few
bits. So that's the only thing that
would, like, if Filoni was thinking,
yeah, I want to bring some extra
characters in, flesh out the universe
alittle bit. I think Calcassis probably
would be. Yeah, probably be all right
to shove in there, but not as, like,
a big hitter in any of that stuff,
youknow. Oh, you're the dude that did
that thing with the thing. Oh, nice
man, too.

(34:29):
Yeah, it's a tough one in itbecause this becomes fan service
again.It's like where the fans demand something
because they've got. They enjoyed
thevideo game, so now they're like,
wewant him in live action. But actually,
ifit's delivered in live action, it
might not be that good? Like the
best thing for him might be to go
the same way as they did in rebels
andjust kill him, you know? Yeah, just
kill.

(34:54):
Kill them off.
Yeah.
If they can kill off Kylo Ren,they can kill off anyone that's mine.
I was at the park the otherday and took the little one to the
park in Barnsley.
During the day.
Yeah. Knocking about. She'sgoing down the slide and whatever.
She'sgoing up these little steps and there's
other kids, like, you know. You know
where it's like kids be. Kids are
trying to. One's going first and
other kids waiting behind her and
he tries to go by like sort of the
same time as her. And it was wood,
they wouldn't fit, right, it was
fine. And then you just hear from
behind me, Kylo, just let that little
girl go up damn stairs.

(35:37):
No.
And you're like, you are Kylo,right, okay, how old is he? Right,
okay, so it's like eight. So, yeah,
that fits. And I thought. I didn't
hear that right. I didn't hear that
right. So fast forward three or four
minutes. Kylo does that. Want an
ice cream? Donna, does Kylo want
anice cream? No, right? And I'm like,
christ, they've done it. So I took
Beyonce off the slide.

(36:11):
And fucked off and took her toa party. Britney's party.
Britney, bitch. Yeah, Ithought that was funny.
Dude, come on.
I know, dude.
In it, parents call your kidswhatever you like. You know, you
do, you whatever. But come on, kai.
I don't know, man. You just. You.
What you're doing is you're saying,
look, love, I want to call the lad.
I want to call our lad Kylo. Right?
She's like, that's going to open
himup to just years of ridicule and
bullying. I'm good with it because
I'vegot a kid called Kylo. Him up. All
right, fine. Your dad's got his way
again.

(36:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. Bad one.
Yeah. So calcarest this, mate.Live action, yay or nay, who knows?
But definitely not WillPoulter, though.
I don't know. He's got a weirdface. Will Poulter. I think he'd
belike the comedy version. Like the
evil version of countless that showed
up with like the weird eyebrows and
the frown all the time.

(37:10):
And the. He's got like thelittle goatee beard to make sure,
youknow, that he's a bad guy.
Exactly. Yeah. I would say, asusual, sor, listener, that we'll
keepyou posted on this story, but we
won't. It's just a non thing, so
it.
Won'T even be a story. Thenext thing that we'll hear about
thisis Jedi survivor three, and then
probably maybe something. Live action,
maybe. But I mean, what do you. What
you said that Jedi survivor three
isprobably not going to drop to, what,
2027?

(37:39):
I would say 2026 at theearliest, because.
Yeah, that's a stretch.
Yeah, just because I thinkRespawn have just absolutely wrecked
the landing for the first two games.
Like, it's taken. Like, the games
come out, and then they're borderline
unplayable on some platforms for
about six months until they patch
it,and then people sort of dive into
itand stuff. So you wouldn't want sort
of train wreck release number three
in a row. So I think they probably
wantto spend a bit more time on this
one, make sure it's all good. So,
yeah, I think a couple of years at
the earliest, dude. And my guess
would be 2027.

(38:19):
Yeah, I think so as well. ButI just don't see calc Estes coming
inbefore that to live action.
Live action. Oh, yeah. No, Ican't see it. No. Nope. Memorabilia,
dude.We spoke about these a few times.
Theold props that gets put up for sale.
Screen accurate on screen props.
Allthe rest of it. Pretty decent one.
This one, the sand trooper from that
scene in a new hope where you get
three or four of them around the
land speeder and Obi wan for the
first time, does the mind trick.
Youdon't need to see our identification.
You know,all that. So the sound trooper that
he's talking to, they've matched
thishelmet that they've put up for sale
to the screen, used version, and
that's going up for auction, dude.
Sothis is over at. I'm sure it's prop
store. Yeah. In London. And it's
going up for just over $300,000.
Up to.That's the estimate. Up to 600,000,
which is 250 grand. Up to. Up to
half a million sterling british pounds.
Uh, that's gonna be on November 17.
So next month. So gives you another
month to save a little bit more in
the penny jar to get this one. Uh,
dude, I think this is a cool one
because it's not the kind of, um.
It's not the in your face, like,
youknow, here's Luke's lightsaber, or
here's, you know, whatever this is.
Like, oh, that could be one of a
hundred stormtroopers. But it's like,
no, no, no. You got to read the card,
dude. That's next to it. You know,
this is screen accurate soundtraper
fromthat iconic scene. So I think that's
agood one. And then we've got some
other props as well. We've got Yoda's
little cane that he used in Empire
strikes back, return the Jedi. That's
pretty cool. That'll only set you
back 25 to 50 grand, which is not
too bad. So that's the Star Wars
ystuff. And then there's a few other
cool little movie bits as well. We
got Michael Keaton's bat suit from
Batman Returns. That's pretty sweet.
You've got Michael J. Fox's jacket
that he wore in part two. And you've
also got some other bits, like from
horror films. You got the hat that
Kurt Russell wore in the thing from
back in the day. You've got the Ghost
fast mask. Ghost face mask from the
original screen movie. So some really
cool bits, dude, in this one. But
obviously it's about the Star wars
stuff for us. But I'd have the Stormtrooper
one. Mandev Diomit Defo.

(40:46):
Yeah, I'd have that. And I'dhave a few of these. I'd have that
one. Definitely the Yoda cane. I
think that'd be pretty cool for the
same reason, because they'd be like,
oh, what's that? A replica cane.
Wow.Whatever. So that'd be. That'd be
quite cool. And it's such a subtle
little bit of memorabilia. It's not
like, in your face, do you know what
I mean? So I like that the Batman
return suit would be epic, as would
the mighty McFly jacket as well.
So,yeah, a lot of cool stuff in there.
You just can't afford it. It's just
absolutely silly price. But, yeah,
some of this stuff would be really
cool. Some collector's gonna really
land on a bit of a treasure trove
there, I think. And these are the
sort of things as well that I would
genuinely believe that there'd be
decent investments. Like, I don't
seethem losing value at any point. This
is only going to go up in value.
So,yeah, I suppose if you've got the
brass, that's actually not a bad
thing to put your money into.

(41:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Really like that. And I like.I like that the helmet's really still,
like, discolored. I think they've
madesure that it's not been too tarted
upand it's not been too, I say well
preserved because it's well preserved,
butit's not been refinished or anything.
So.Yeah, yeah, I think there's some
absolute beauties in there, dude.
I'dlove to. Love to be able to afford
toget one, but pipe dreams, if anything.

(42:10):
If anything. Yeah, yeah. I'dhave the stormtrooper helmet, man.
That'd be cool. Your mates would
buythis and you'd go around there and
I'd have Marty McFly's jacket over
the top of Keaton's batsuit with
thestormtrooper helmet and be like,
oh,yeah, just threw that together. That's
from films, right? You're like, jesus
Christ.

(42:32):
Here he is again. Uh, onlycome for a curry, Brett. Piss off.
Take off.
Old Brett has come back, eh?Right, so that's your auction, dude.
November 17. Mark your calendars
to spendyour pocket money on that. That's
thenews. Done. I just want to finish
upon this subject, dude.
What is it?
Yeah, well, you mentioned itvery briefly in the opening story.

(42:54):
Actually, I knew I would do.
Yeah, because that's how youforward think.
Same wavelength. Yeah.Although for the listener, Garry's
notdisclosed what we're just about to
talk about to me. So I had no prior
knowledge of this.
Sure. I've seen this pop up afew times, dude.
Well, what is it? Just tell us then.
And it is this concept ofdoing a live action clone wars with
Hayden and Ewan, right? You mentioned
this earlier. You were like, yeah,
they could just do it, but it would
be pointless. Now, I'm of the same
opinion, and I think a lot of fans
are, because the Clone wars was such
an in depth animated show with so
many episodes, loads and loads of
content there. How, how would you,
how would you bring something new
to the table by doing a live action
version? You either just set the
tone, I guess, straight out the gate
and say, look, we're going to redo
alot of stories, but just in live
action version, or we're gonna, you
know, dive into some bits that you
didn't see in the animated series.
Butthat'd be hard. Like I said, there's
somuch there already, but I've seen
itquite a few times pop up now. And
there's been a couple of articles
aswell. This one that I'm looking at
comes from Forbes and the who's this
written by Paul Tassie. Basically
says,look, yep, we could have a Kenobi
season two. We could do all these
other things, but why don't you just
do live action clone wars? And the
justification is that it satisfies
a lotof people who want more clone wars
in the first place. So there's a
lot of fandom that was like, oh,
man. Gutted that that ended because
it's such a cool animated show. I'd
love to see more of it. Then you've
also got the fans that just want
tosee Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen,
and then you've also got the subset
offans that were just absolutely losing
their mind when we saw Clone wars
version, live action Anakin in the
Ahsoka series, and then that episode
when you see the little Ahsoka, and
it was very much a, wow, this is
avibe. Like, this is a whole. This
isfucking awesome. So, yeah, like I
said, I've seen it pop up. What.
Whatare you all like? If someone said
toyou, like, mark, here's like, 200
million quid, you've got the choice
tomake something brand new in the Star
wars universe, or we'll give you
300 million quid, and we want you
to do a live action clone wars, and
you and Hayden said he'd star in
it along with you and everyone. Where
would you go with that, dude?

(45:31):
I feel it would need to focuson two specific things. It would
needto focus on the genuine. And this
isbuilding on what was in a circuit,
because a lot of the feedback was,
wow, that was fucking brutality.
Like,that looked dirty and grimy and scary,
and it was a kid. Soka was a kid
inthe middle of a war. They would have
to hone in on the brutality and the
idea that even Padawan kids were
being thrust into fight in a war.
Ithink that's one thing. And it would
have to be hard. It would have to
be dirty. It would have to be a war
piece. That's it. And I know it's
wars with lasers and shooting droids.
That's fine. We can keep the Star
wars sensibilities. I think the second
thing that it would have to do to
keep it interesting, number one,
everyone's got to come back. Natalie
Portman's got to come back. Jimmy
Smitz has got to come back. McDermid's
gotto come back. Everyone has to come
back because you've got to tell the
story. You can't. For me, you wouldn't
remake the Clone wars animated. There
would be stories that existed. And
because they jump around in time,
there very rarely are things that
are butted up together. You would
have to build all these relationships
withthe rexes of the world and all the
clones, but in particular, you would
have to strengthen the relationships
betweeneveryone on screen. You'd have to
show Obi Wan's suspicion of Anakin
andPadme, you'd have to show how he
gets to the point of making the little
quips in season seven of the Clone
wars. You'd have to get to the point
of referencing other Clone wars episodes
that did happen in animation, but.
But creating new stories around it.
And the point would have to be to
strengthen Anakin's fall while showing
the horrors of war. And now that
could be badass. And I don't even
think that's fan service. I think
it's just, it's the Skywalker saga.
Do some of that, you know? Yeah,
Ijust feel like you could do that
andyou could even. There's plenty of
opportunities for time jumps. You
know, do three seasons, do one per
year, you know, even have, you know,
Padme and Anakin talking about having
kids and leaving the order and all
the stuff that they didn't get time
to do in the movies, I think you
could really do. So I don't think
it's a bad concept. What I don't
think we need is just a retreading
ofeverything else and just, you know,
let's do the same stories, but in
live action. It's pointless. It's
just pointless to do that if you've
got that budget, you know, listen
tothe feedback from the prequels. What.
What did people feel was missing
fromthe prequels? And it was like, wait
a minute. We know that the revenge
ofthe sith probably takes place over
three months, for six months, nine
months, maybe, but it doesn't feel
like that. It feels like it takes
place over, like, two days, you know,
but you don't. You know, Padme is
not heavily pregnant, and then at
the end, she has kids, you know,
sothere's a time period in there somewhere.
Um, so I think you could just show
that. I think you. I do think you
could do a great job of it. The problem
that you've got is it's constant
deaging. Um, you know, what would you
do with the clones? Granted to me,
you could maybe just show the clones
without the helmets on, I guess.
But,um, it would need some thought. But
there's a lot in there that could
bedone. I don't think that's an issue.
Um, it's just what people would react
to that, like, you know, because
that,that's the other thing. If you just
remake the animated stories, people
just don't. They'll not like it,
you know, fans. Whoa, we didn't want
that. You know, it was better on
animation or blah, blah, blah, blah.
So you'd have to be real careful
withit. But I think there's something
in that.

(49:05):
Yeah, it's interesting one init because. Yeah, I think that would
be a fail straight away if you just
remade for live action. I think just
because a lot of, a lot of people
thatwatched this show when they were
relatively young probably formed
somekind of emotional attachment to the
voice actors and the way that those
characters were done within those
stories and whatnot. So as an animated
show, it was quite emotional at times.
There was that sort of emotional
undertone. It wasn't just a. It wasn't
just a lightsabers and pew, pew,
pewfor kids, like some cartoons are,
itdid have a. Almost a mature matureness
toit. So I think a lot of people would
have connected with that. And if
you were to redo it in live action,
belike, yeah, you know, I felt that
way about the story back then. I
don't, you know, I don't have that
now. So I think, yeah, that it's
aninteresting one because I think you
could. You could hash out some, some
newer stories within that time period
just for me. I think the Clone wars
era has had so many stories told
around it. And in that time period,
notjust the animated show called the
Clone wars, but loads of books, loads
of other bits and bobs within Star
wars just focuses heavily on that,
that, that time period in the prequel
trilogy. So I would go with option
a.If someone presented that to me,
ifsomeone said, you got 200 mil for
something new or 300 mil for the
Clone wars redo, I think I'd go with
something new. Dude. I just don't
seewhy I have to see it.

(50:48):
I still see why you can't doboth. I don't see why it's got the
shit, you know, if you take Kenobi,
it's called Kenobi, not Kenobi. During
this time period, it's called Kenobi,
you know, it's about him. So there's
absolutely no reason that you could
not do that and really make this
ashow about, like I said, the parallels.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, and almost, youknow, doing all of that clone wars
stuff but not needing to fill a season
with it. Like, we know what it's
like. Sometimes two good episodes
arebetter than eight slower episodes.
Or,you know, if you've got a series
orderfor six to eight 1 hour episodes
aboutthe Clone wars, you've got to tell
astory. And people complain about
thepacing very often. And if you've
gotthe same issue with Kenobi, there's
noreason that you can't. Mandalorian
did itpretty well, you know. Yeah, it was
a little bit. Felt a bit shitty towards
the Mandalorian proper, but they
needed to tell a bit of Luke Skywalker
story, and they needed to tell a
bit of a grogu story, and so they
did. And it just. It feels like there's
opportunity to just do that. You
know, let's bring Liam Neeson back,
bring Ewan McGregor back, make it
a very reflective thing. But get
Natalie Portman in for a couple of
episodes. You know, just fill a couple
of the gaps in, get bail organa in,
you know, put redo some of the scenes
at the fall of the Empire, you know,
with the rebellion, you know, the
deleted scene from revenge of the
Sith. Redo that with some fresh context
on it. And I just. Yeah, there's
just alot that you could do. Like, especially
things like, we don't really know
how Obi Wan felt when he got on,
when he snuck on the ship to go to
Mustafar. We don't know how he felt.
So much opportunity, we know, in
the kenobi. But the John Jackson
Millerone, what happened immediately after
Mustafar? He took Luke to Tatooine,
butnot, like, immediately. Immediately.
How didhe feel? What happened? And maybe
part of that healing towards a new
hope is qui gon saying, look, fucking
hell. You did what you could, man.
You did what you could. And you know
that because there's a lot of problematic
stuff in Obi Wan's head still. Like,
should I have killed him? It would
have been better for the galaxy if
I'd have killed him. You know? Who
else but his master can say to him,
look, yeah, I get that, but would
Ihave killed him? Who would have done
anything different? There's so much
good stuff, but I just don't know
ifit needs to be a Clone wars series.

(53:14):
Maybe it could be more aboutObi Wan than Anakin. Maybe. Maybe
Anakin's had his day in terms of
having so much content about him.
Maybe it could be a. You know, because
in that. In that book, there is a
bit of a conflict with. With Obi
wan as well, in terms of a love interest.
Mm hmm.
So he does have. As acharacter throughout that whole period,
he does have a lot going on in his
noggin.

(53:40):
Well, that's the other thing.Sorry to interrupt, but they're like,
dude, this whole satine thing has
not been told.
Oh, true.
Yeah, not being told really,in any depth. Maybe like it's been
alluded to in the Clone wars and
maybe a little bit in the books,
butabsolutely nothing of major depth.
There's a lot that could be done
there, especially when you start
tothink about tying it into, like,
boKatan. You know, you've got good
casting. And Katie sackoff right
there. So, Kate Blanche in Kath Valloni.

(54:10):
We're just giving these awayfor free now.
We are pretty much nailingsome ideas today, to be honest. I
feel like we're on. We are in a bit
of a role with this today.
Crikey. I'll tell you what,mate. If these things pop up, I'm
on it. Dave at Barnsley. Davesolicitors.com.
they're gonna have it.
Kylo. Do you want an icecream, Kylo?

(54:33):
Oh, God. Only if Ben wantsone. Oh. Why does he get to be called
something normal?
Yeah. Little Scott.
Scott. Yeah, little ScottyKylo, Scott.
What?
Four kids? Sarah. Yeah. Scott.Kyle. Kai. Do you know what I mean?
It's like, why, like, the odd one
out? Oh, your dad, Donna.

(55:02):
I want to call his other kidKyle. We've already got a Kyle, aren't
we, Brett? Yep. Right, well, why
can't we have another one? Because
it'dbe confusing, won't it, Brett? We
talked about this with the dog and
look what happened there. Right,
whatabout Kylo, then? Fuck it. Go on.
You have what you want, Bret, lad.

(55:24):
Yeah?
You have what you want to. ButI'll tell you what, you're dealing
witha school, you're dealing with a football
team. And you're dealing when you're
drunk and you call Kyle Kylo by mistake.
Because we all know it'll happen,
Brett. Now go to work.
And the school counsellor,because of the buddy, that's on you.

(55:45):
Hello, love. It's your littleKylo's school teacher here. All it
is, I don't like to bring it up,
but it got a bit mad today and he
bashed up all his computers with
astick that he'd painted red and then
pinned one of the other lads to a
chair, saying he was gonna, and I
quote him, read his bastard mind.
Socan you come and get him, please?

(56:14):
I wonder if he's an old schooldad. Yeah. Between nine and three
isyour problem.
Yeah, innit?
Hang up.
If my dinner's not on chuffingtable when I get out, I'm gonna batter
thee. I'm gonna batter thee and I'll
tell thee what, me and Kylo are gonna
pub. And then when we come back,
thatdinner best be on chuffin table.
Itbetter be, otherwise they're gonna
get kebabrant chops.

(56:36):
Observation, which I findhilarious. Mark is from Barnsley.
Whenhe's done an impression from somebody
else from Barnsley, his. Your accent
is even more.
Yeah, I get more Barnsley.
Yeah.
So, like, I'm more neutralbecause of work, aren't I? I'm not
like you think I'm properly Barnsley,
buttrust me, I am not properly Barnsley.

(56:56):
I do. I said this on a. On ourlast team meeting out talking to
Star wars names, Ben, one of our
colleagues, little Ben Brawler. And
I was saying, mark's got a real neutral
Yorkshire. Barnsley accent. I think,
Sam, I think your missus is more
Barnsley than you are.

(57:16):
Oh, she is, definitely. Yeah.Yeah. No, 100%. But a lot of people
that hang around with are massively
Barnsley, which is great. Like, I
used to be that, but I had to soften
it because of, like, public speaking
andpodcasting and stuff.
Yeah. You're impressions ofother Barnsley people.
Oh, yeah.
Like, proper.
You should hear Sam's uncle.Honestly. You walk in and it's. The
volume is off the charts. All right,
Mark. Glad as they've been golfing.
No,I've not. Let us know because it's
Christmas fucking day, Chaga. I've
not. It's the only time that I see
you. What you up to? Chip oil for
dinner Christmas day, Les chip oil.
If I don't get change out of that
fiver, I'm gonna go down there and
I'm gonna clatter them.

(57:58):
You've got all the nuancesbang on because obviously you grew
up with it. Do you know what I mean?
So it's.
You should watch. There's aguy from Barnesville that does a.
It does, like a bit of a meme page.
Started back in the day with, like,
aSnapchat filter. But he's hilarious.
He'scalled straight up Yorkshire and
it's just about. He's a guy from
Barnsley and just have a look at
him.

(58:21):
Just.
Just watch him. Straight upYorkshire is absolutely. He always
goes on about, like, what you doing
to me? And he's like, gwynedd Wickingman
Shagga. What lady?
Well, there you go. There'ssome education listeners, especially
ourus listeners, on some regional accents.
Yeah.
Here in UK ish. Right. Dude inwaffle. Let's put a pin in it there
for. Let's put pin in there for episode
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cool as always, dude.

(59:50):
See the next week, old Chaga and.
So, yeah, on that Yorkshirenote, we'll see you next time. Until
then, I take care of yourselves and
may the force be with you always.