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Hello there and welcome toSpark of Rebellion. This is your
weekly Star wars podcast. Myname's Garry. I'm one of your hosts
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here and welcome to episode204. 42. This is our last one for
a little while. If you listen,last week we gave you the heads up,
we gave you the skinny onwhat's going to be happening with
Spark Rebellion movingforward. We have just a very quick
recap. We decided to go alittle bit a change on the format.
We're going to move to aseasonal format instead of the ongoing
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episodic. It just means thatwe can put some better content together
for you guys and not feel likewe turn up every week and talk about
the same stuff and and not beas enthusiastic about Star wars which
is the last thing that anybodywants. So this is the last one for
our. We will be back I'llremind you at the end of the show
as well. But we will be backafter Star wars celebration mid to
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late April to give you ourthoughts on the the probable big
announcements from from Disneyand Lucasfilm there for upcoming
Star wars projects etc. Sotune back in then. And then after
that we will be back to reviewthe second season of Andor. Plus
some other fancy schmancy bitsof Star wars content, some interviews
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and whatnot. So we'll keep youup to date on that. But this week
we have got a few news itemsto go through. Surprisingly this
is one of the reasons why wewent seasonal because the news is
very light thin on the groundthese days. But we have got a few
things. We've got Luke, LukeSkywalker turning up at some point
in the future to Galaxy'sEdge. We've got some stuff going
up for auction. Daisy Ridleygiving a non update as usual on the
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upcoming project for her filmand also going to pull out the big
guns. One of Syfy's mostrenowned female actors in a couple
of big franchises, SigourneyWeaver gives an update on her involvement
in an upcoming Star warsthing. So plenty to talk about. Let's
bring on my co host then.Let's bring him on. It's. It's Palpatine's
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right hand man. I'm not gonnasay what he does with that right
hand, just that yeah.
Someone'S got to do it.
Someone's got to do it mate.And I think your hand skills are.
You're overqualified.
But I am actually whatever.It's not through practice. It's more
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through natural talent and arequirement to serve on anything
else? Yeah, yeah, andwhatever, you know, whatever. And
it is a good pub up there aswell. Yeah. So it's. Don't judge
until you've been in. Whathappens in lock ins. Not that there
are lock ins. You know, don'tget them anymore, does it?
No.
Up to them, in a way.
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It's their. It's their choice.And this is Mark Asquith.
Hello.
Coaster number two or numberone? Yeah, he's most important, I
would say. He's the voice.Yeah, Number one.
You've got the. You've got thepro voice. Think about it as well.
Like, Palpatine did havesexual intercourse with someone in
order to get the children.
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No, he didn't. No.
Are you sure?
Yeah. Wasn't it that cringystoryline with he. He used the. The
Force to impregnate shmee.
Now, was it that?
I'm sure it was via the Force.Cheeky Force.
How has he not got cancelledthen? You know what I mean? Gino
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de Campo, he's gone.
Oh, God. Yeah.
You know what I mean?Palpatine's like just doing. From
like 42 million light yearsaway. He's getting away with it.
Yeah. I mean, sound alibi.
Yeah.
So you. Yeah, I was on a DeathStar. Yeah.
Yeah.
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Prequel too. Yeah.
It's a trap. It is. And that'sthe problem.
Yeah.
Christ. No.
Well, we kind of believe youmore than her.
Yeah.
Because she's saying that noone's touched her. Just like a, you
know. You know, the. The markof God. Impregnated without intercourse.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So what are you saying? Whyare you getting involved? Are you.
What? Yeah, just leave her alone.
Spoke to on the phone.
God, you've not learned fromJesus, have you, Internet? Not learn.
You do not learn anything, you lot.
That was a cringe storyline. Ihave to be fair. It was kind of weird
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when they. I'm sure that wasfrom the comics, though. Not. It
wasn't a book. I'm sure it wasa comic.
Well, the panel as well, likethe Shmee Skywalker panel is properly,
like, weird because it's likePalpatine's just in the background
like some wanky uncle, youknow, like he's literally in the
background there like somesort of weird Nancy Force ghost.
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And you're like, leave it out.Like, pint of Fosters in one hand,
some Port Scratchins in theother. You know what I mean?
Do you know what? He woulddrink some wanky beer like that as
well, you know?
Yeah, he would.
Fosters Carling. No, what wasit? Castle main forex.
Castle main forex.
Whatever it was, you know thatLightly bitters. Yeah.
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I always sort of think aboutlike that, like if he was to go down
the pub. Not always thinkabout it, but sometimes I have thought
about it. Like if he goes downthe pub, right, so he's finished
work Friday night, he's likesorted, done, shagger corusante,
done. Right, Takas pub. Let meget changed. And he's just there,
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like brown, brown Chelseaboots, you know, I mean, Diesel jeans,
like, whips off the blackrobes, gets the lightsaber, back
pocket, job, wallet, keys,phone, lightsaber tacking. We're
out. Do you know what I mean?Got his nice coat on, North Face
coat, baseball cap, and thenjust nipped down the wagon.
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So I can't like. Oh, youdressed up. Are we going out?
Tell me, what's the vibe fortonight? Is it. Is it out out or.
We're just having a couplePalpatine's, like. Well, you never
know what happens, dear. Youknow me, I get a bit non touchy after
2:00am Exactly. But someonewill be pregnant.
Any luck.
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That's how it gets.
Bad sign of a good night.
It is for a lot of people.
Normally it's a pint and aburger at Spoons.
Yeah, it will be for themsaving money, but. Yeah, no, not
for me. I. I'm a day sesh guynow. Go out at 12 midday, owned by
half, 10, 26, five guys, twokebabs of pizza and a sandwich.
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Yeah, that's a good. That's agood shout.
Can't eat that in this Uber shagger.
Yeah, goes everywhere. No, youdon't want to throw up either.
Well, that's the thing withUbers as well. You can't hear that
in here, man. I'm not nine. Iknow how to eat. Like, it's fine.
No, they've been burnt one toomany times before, mate.
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Yeah, but then you've got mymate. Big win. He literally would
just throw up in the car. He'sallowed to do that, you know what
I mean? Whereas I'm sat therewith a piece that's going nowhere
apart from in my mouth andlike, can't do that. What about him?
He's literally sat next to youin the front seat throwing up right
now.
You'd capitalize on thatthough, if you were an Uber driver.
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You can eat that. You give mea slice. Yeah, go in.
That's not.
I should buy dinner then.
You know, maybe you could doit like, you could be like that guy.
You could just buy like extralike, listen, man, got to go at McDonald's.
I'll get you a burger. Or I'vegot in the car, like you said, with
a pizza. I'll use a little sixincher for you. And I got your pizza.
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It's a win, win. Couple ofBobby Dazzlers. There you go.
Exactly. Yeah.
And this all happens in onenight on a work do listener.
Yeah. This is just a Tuesday,Christmas Day. Manchester. We are
mate. Ben.
Ah, you're gonna miss allthis, aren't you? Me? Every. Every
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week, all this.
There's no Star wars talk.
No Star wars bollocks. No.Let's talk about Star wars, though.
We should probably.
We should probably do that.
Otherwise we just become oneof those bro podcasts that people
hate, where it's like, youknow, podcast is not just two bros
talking about and you're like,well, a lot of time they sort of
do do that. Yeah, A lot of thetime it's crap, but a lot of the
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time it's not, you know,different strokes for.
Different folks to rule theworld. Indeed. Dude. Luke Skywalker
and R2D2.
Hang on. We've not done any ofthe usual stuff. We've not. We've
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not. We've not done the like,forward slash support thing. We've
not, like done. What have youdone this week in. In Star Wars?
Not done any of that. Can'tjust not do that just because, you
know, we're nine minutes in.
You're not the boss of me, allright? I'm running. I'm running things
on this episode.
You are, actually.
But what I was just about tosay was obviously.
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Yeah, funny you mentionedthat. I was going to say, Luke Skywalker,
what the next words out mymouth were going to be can wait because
I got to do this stuff.
Exactly. You read my mind.Hey, make sure that you are following
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Or if you work online, ifyou're a busy beaver, your work from
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you following the show so thatas we move to a seasonal format,
you'll get notifications whenthe new episodes drop and all that
jazz. So make sure you'redoing that. We're still going to
chat Star wars over on thesocials we're on these days. I'm
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just going to can of Facebook.I'm making a decision now, dude.
We're going to count offFacebook because we're not on there
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Spark Rebellion. So that's allthe things that Mark told me to do,
dude. Luke Skywalker and R2D2are going to come to Galaxy's Edge
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at Disneyland park at somepoint. So this is one of the kind
of biggest shake ups, I guessto the content offering through Galaxy's
Edge listeners. You all knowwhat this is. If you don't know.
Galaxy's Edge is a themed areawithin the Disney parks where you've
got all the full size shipmodels, you've got experiences, you've
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got Star wars themed cafes andrestaurants and it's all very cool
and usually it's themed aroundthe sequel trilogy. You've got Rey
knocking around, you've gotthe first Order, Stormtroopers, Kylo
Ren, all of those dudes. Butthey're going to change it up a little
bit. So from March 28 throughto May 11 this year, Luke Skywalker
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and R2D2 are going to be doingsome kind of themed appearances there
at the park. So it's the firsttime that they've injected some classic
Star wars stuff there or it'sthe Luke in between that stuff, who
knows. But not a huge amountof details at moment. But this is
cool. And one thing to that'simportant before you go booking your
tickets to fly over toFlorida. It's not in Florida. It's
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not a Disney World importantcaveat. It's only at Disneyland on
the west coast for now. Theymight bring it over to Disney World,
but there's not too much to goon there's a cool little clip that
Disney Parks have put out ontheir. On their X feed and a few
little bits. It's essentiallyLuke walking up to Millennium Falcon
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joined by R2. All very cool,Moody. Nice little bit of music.
So, mate, I assume you'regoing to book your ticket to go and
meet Luke.
Oh, God, yeah.
Gosh, you are.
Big time. It's a funny one,this in it. Like when we did Galaxy's
Edge over in Thor Lando. It'sbrilliant. It is good. But it is
all sequel stuff, which issort of. Alright, I get that. So
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you do feel like that. You dofeel the lack of original and even
prequel stuff when you're acertain age. But it's. There's also
like a reasonably good reasonfor that and that's that most many
of the characters from thesequel trilogy, I've got masks on
certain main ones. I knowwe've got Darth Vader and whatever,
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but. So you can talk aboutanyone in there. And this is the
weird thing with Luke. Like,it's not going to look like Luke
because he's a fella, just abloke in it. And you know he's supposed
to be Luke, but then you get apicture with Luke and R2 and you're
like, well, R2 was alreadythere, so I could just do R2. Anyway,
it's fine. So then I'm gonnaget home. When? In three weeks. I'm
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gonna be like, seeing thisnow. What is it? Me and Luke, you're
like, that's not Luke. Just afella. Do you know what I mean? So
it's great. It's just a fella.
How do we know that MarkHamill is not doing this? They can't
afford that Disney money.
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That would be good.
How do you know it's not that?
Nah. For two months? No chance.
Well, what's he doing working?
He was in London at the awardsto the night, weren't he?
Yeah, but he's not, you know,Luke's dead. He's not filming any
more Star Wars.
No, that's true, actually. ButI mean, it could be, but I mean,
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it's not gonna be. But yeah,that's just the weird thing in it.
It's just a weird thing. It'slike, yeah, there was talk about
Denzel Washington coming intoStar wars and you're like, don't
do that. It's a similar sortof thing because then you get an
action figure and it's like,Denzel Washington. It's not the characters
just Denzel. That's cool. It'sjust that big. There's just Denzel.
Yeah. That's unavoidablethough, right. With some. Some actors,
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you know, it is.
And I think it's like, whythey don't really cast them as big
stars. Sorry. Cast big starsas like some of the main characters.
Because it's not always greatto have toys of, you know, a massive
star. Because people like.It's like, you know, a hot toys is.
It's just Denzel, you know,And I think like Ewan McGregor was.
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He's massive, obviously, butit was not massive. Back in 99, he'd
only done a few sort of indishfilms. Trained, spoiling a few others.
It was not like mega style,was it?
That's true. Yeah. And youalso run into problems, don't you?
Like if you're a sideshow orhot toys or something and you start
making figures. Like, what ifKevin Spacy was like a big Star wars
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actor?
Well, I mean, that'sdefinitely going somewhere. Yeah.
Do you know what I mean? Soyou got to be careful. I'll read
you anyway. Luke turning up atGalaxy's Edge. And I want to make
that point very clear becauseI know. We'll get it. Email. All
right, shaggers. We went toDisney World on your advice to meet
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Luke. Not there. It's not aDisney World in Florida. It's a Disneyland.
California. The Sunshine State.
Yeah.
Okay. Right. Daisy Ridley onher new Star wars film. This story
came in a couple of weeks ago.We didn't cover it then because it
wasn't important, but we'llmention it now just for the sake
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of archival purposes to referback to. So she was doing a press
tour for her other film noone's heard of. And she was obviously
asked about Star wars and theupcoming change with writers and
all that stuff. And she said,I have not read the latest script,
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but I know what's happening. Iknow the story. And I think what
feels really good is thatGeorge is a phenomenal writer. This
was back when George Nolfi. Ishe still writer? I can't keep up
with what's going on. She sayshe's a phenomenal writer and said,
I think we're making sure thisstory is the best. This is the best
way. The script is the bestway to tell the story. And I think
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it will be worthwhile foreveryone watching it. And I'm very
excited. Yeah. So, mate, as Imentioned earlier, a bit of a non
update from Daisy Ridleytalking about Star wars, but is George
Nofi, the. Is he still on? Ican't remember.
Yeah, he was the guy that wesaid had taken it over to the day.
Oh, that was him, was it?
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Yeah. So it's I think likethis is just, this is quite literally
the problem with the show thatwe're having, isn't it? Because it's
the only news that's comingout now. You're getting these little
tidbits of like oh there's,you know, which we'll cover later.
Like here's this thing that'sbeing sold. But yeah, we're just
getting the. And like she'snot gonna come out and go no, it's
wank, is she?
Of course, yeah, yeah, she'snot going.
To be like, yeah, I'm gonnastar in Star wars, get a bit of brass,
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bit of buns, sort them agarage out, you know, so I'm not
paying my hours payments untilI die bit in the pension. Keep attacked
under the threshold andprobably bob a bit into my eyes.
But it is shy, it is properlywank. Like I don't even know why
I'm doing it apart from thebrass. She's not gonna do that, is
she? She's not John Viega. Butwhat she will say is yeah, it's going
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to be decent, it's going to bereasonable and guess what else they
said that about. That's right.Rise of Skywalker everybody. So yeah,
I mean I always look forwardto Star wars but I'm never re. Yeah,
I just, I've got nothing onthis one just is what it is, man.
Yeah, yeah, you're absolutelyright. She's never gonna someone
saying the job's.
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All right in it.
Yeah, I've read the script andit's satisfactory. You know she's
going to say it's amazing andall the rest of it. So yeah, I get
that dude. The only thing Iwould say is that sometimes actors
are just like no, you knowwhen you, they get interviewed, even
if these little snippets, evenif it's not a full length interview,
just red carpet stuff.Sometimes you get the agents and
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the advisors and stuff thatare with them and they're like no
questions about that, noquestion about that. So that's the
only sort of positive thingyou can say is that they're still
open to answering questionsabout it. Just to make sure that
public aware of it, I guess.But yeah, not a great deal going
on.
Yeah, I'm curious about likeCelebration. Will we get anything?
I mean they're not startedfilming but Are they going to release
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tidbits? I just don't know,man. I don't know what feels Celebration
done it. Because, like, theredoesn't seem to be that much apart
from the TV that's that faron. Like, we'll get more. I know
we'll probably get an Ahsokateaser, or maybe it's Socrates, maybe.
But it just doesn't feel likethere's that much going on. So I
don't know. I don't know whatthey're gonna do. And it's when we
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said like two years ago, therace stuff would maybe have been
further on, you know, and it'sjust. Yeah, just stagnating, man.
But we'll see. We'll see.
Yeah, it could have been. ButI think from what we've covered so
far the last few months, it'sgone back to script. So they probably
won't be able to show anythingat Celebration, but I don't know.
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That's probably going to bethe Mandalorian verse stuff at Celebration,
I would say.
Oh, yeah. Mando and Grogustuff's pretty solid, actually. Yeah,
it's not a bad shout.
Yeah. And they'll leave thisone for celebration 2028, you know,
first trailer during 2020,whatever. I don't know. So Sigourney
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Weaver, here's another one.Look. Powerful women in science fiction
are everywhere. Bit of alegend, though. Old Weaver, she was
interviewed recently againabout something else. This is so
funny, man. Every time these.They go on a tour, a bit of a press
junket tour about somethingelse, they get really pissed off.
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It's like, ah, come on in.Y'all know you've got a Star wars
question. Let's get this outof the way. Of course she was asked
about it because she's goingto appear in the Mandalorian and
Grogu film. And she says sheplays a wonderful character and she's
in a position of authority,apparently, whoever she's playing.
But a very quick snippet here.She says I get to have scenes with
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little Grogu, which isprobably why I did the movie. She
tells games Radar plus, whichis a lie, and he's a little badass,
too. It's going to bewonderful if people see what Grogu
is up to now because he'sgrown up a little bit and he's capable
of much more than maybe, wethink, just watching the series,
which is interesting. So wecan take from that, that his force
powers have grown, etc. Shewent on to, you know, say a Few more
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bits, but then just want towrap up to say that she says she
was asked why she didn'tappear in Star wars sooner because
she's been in some massiveother franchises and she said she
admires Star wars, but she'snever sat around wishing that she
was in another big franchisebecause she's been so lucky to being
some wonderful ones. But atthe time when it was offered, she
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was delighted and she's a bigfan of Jon Favreau, so. And. And
she was already a big fan ofthe Mandalorian, which is a lie.
So a couple of little fibsthere, couple little white lies,
I reckon. But dude, what doyou reckon on Weaver appearing in
Star wars then?
It's one of those interestingthings where like potentially supporting
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roles, you know, I just hopeit's not like position of authority
because she says I'm going tosend the Mandalorian out on a task
to the Outer Rim. That's partof the interview, like she said.
I just hope it's not like, oh,position of authority. Gravitas actor.
Oh, it was. The twitch is abad person. Like. Sure, that's just
obvious. So I just hope it'snot that. But generally speaking,
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like anyone that's in, youknow, back to that, what we said
a second ago, like, if she's asupporting character, getting people
like that of major Gravitas, Ithink he's always a good thing because
it's those kind of roles thatcan let films and TV series down.
If you've got like, like theacolyte across the board was generally
averagely acted apart fromKhmer, that was like just hamming
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it up and was brilliant withit. And it's when you've got like
any, any. For me, any kind ofmedia property, TV movie style property
can sort of falter a littlebit with one or two actors if there's
gravitas throughout the cast.And it just feels like people like
Sigourney Weaver andpotentially supporting, more supporting
roles. And I'm assuming it's asporting role. It might not be, but
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it just. It always just adds alayer of quality, I think, like,
she could hate the rules. Shecould not. It could be a bad role,
it could be a bad movie, butshe's not going to be bad because
she's gone.
Yeah.
So I think. I always thinkit's quite a good idea. It's like
the old Superman issue, isn'tit? You know, Christopher Reeve was
an unknown, but Gene Hackmanreally wasn't, you know.
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Yeah.
And yeah, yeah. There was,there was a lot of that, that sort
of went on back then and I, I,yeah, I, I just know. I think that's
just always a wise move.Especially because like Pascal's
probably not going to take hismask off that often. He might do
so it doesn't really matterwhether it's him under there or not.
It's probably not going to bethat much. I would imagine they'll
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be doing a lot of voiceoverstuff and that's probably it. Maybe
a little, you know, mask offappearance and if he's allowed to
do that anymore, whatever. Soit's, there might just not be a ton
of star power which I think islike the risk as well for it being
a movie because it's, it's,it's interesting with Amanda movie
because you sort of like mymum was used to watching this on
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Disney plus and she liked itbecause it was in Disney plus. It's
like high quality Star wars onDisney plus. But can I get, can I
be asked getting my shoes andI'm going out to the cinema to see
it? Probably not. Just waittill it comes on Disney plus because
that's where I watch theMandalorian. So it's, it's I, I worry
that this will die a death inthe box office regardless of whether
it's brilliant or not becauseit comes from Disney plus. So I think
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inserting people likeSigourney Weaver is also a player
to be like, aha, need somefaces on posters, you know. So yeah,
yeah, it's a, it's a bit of acomplex beast. It's a very interesting
decision they've made to turnit into a theater based film because
the risk is that it getsbattered from a box office perspective.
A bit like Solo, you know,didn't make the money that they wanted
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it to make to be classed as aquote unquote success. But actually
it's pretty decent and, andwhatever else. So yeah, I, I feel
it's, it's, I feel it's asmuch a marketing play as it is. You
know, we need someone, agravitas in the cast could be because
they're bloody good as well.So it'll be interesting. Dude.
Yeah, now you're right. It's abit like a bit like Goldblum these
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days. Excuse me. You know, hedoesn't really have like a big lead
in roles in films these daysbut he turns up in Wicked for like
the last half an hour becausehe's Goblin. You need that big sort
of name on the as you said onthe post and stuff. So. Yeah, I certainly
get that dude. And I justwonder if. Yeah. Such an interesting
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point you make around the riskof putting it in, in cinemas because
I don't know, I think the fearis a lot of people these days are
like, they've got that exactattitude towards it where it's like
it will probably be on Disneyplus within I don't know how many
months, not that long. So doyou just save your money, wait for
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it to land on there? Andthat's the annoying thing as well
about cinema. Like Hollywoodand all those dudes that are like,
piracy is ruining everything.Well, it's not really that much anymore.
Like back in the day, like allyour mates were on Pirate Bay and
Limewire, whatever, grabbingall your films. Sure, back then it
was. But these days it's likeit's you lot that's, you know, if
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you're gonna put a film out inthe cinema and then literally five
weeks later put it on all thethings like Apple, you know, you
know, all that stuff, thenwhat do you expect? I don't know.
Anyway, bigger conversation.
But it's a good point though,actually. Just. Yeah. To trap on,
to wrap on that quicklythough. Just a quick thought is that
you're right. Is that because.So fewer people are going to the
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cinema, the movie, the pricesof the cinema have to go up to cover
the costs of it. Which meansthat fewer people are going to go
because they're alreadyplaying a fortune for multiple streaming
services which in turn areputting the prices up because in
order to keep the streamingservices working really well, they
have to produce big budget HBOlevel stuff. And by virtue of doing
that, the producing stuff,that cinema quality stuff on tv,
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which in turn pulls morepeople out the cinema, which pushes
those prices up and just it'sthis kind of weird cycle. It's interesting.
Like I've been really in themidst of Game of Thrones at the minute.
I've never, I watched seasonone and then never snap and it's
mint and I've never actually,I watched up to season four to be
honest, and then thought, youknow what, I'm gonna stop and then
binge it again. So I did.That's what I'm doing now. And just
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the scale of that. And I mean,I know it's HBO and HBO has always
done that stuff, but the scaleof it is now like the standard on
streaming. Yeah. Especiallyfor big IP and. And everything's
got a HBO budget. Everything'sgot HBO level quality. And you know
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the cast is movie star cast.So it's. Yeah, it's a really odd
thing to just like, I'm notthat bothered about seeing the new
Captain America in the. Inthe. In the theater. Like, I just
don't really be asked. Itwould take like Avengers or Spider
(28:31):
man probably and Superman andstuff like that for me to go there
in terms of pop culture. So,yeah, it's an interest. Is an interesting
problem. Like you said, abigger, bigger issue for later. But
it's. I think that the. It'sinteresting through the lens of Star
wars because it pertains tothis whole plan that Star wars reset
itself and was like, you knowwhat? We're gonna do smaller quality
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stuff. And then they suddenlylike, well, we're actually gonna
put this in the cinema andkind of forget what we'd said a little
bit about doing smallerquality stuff. And we're gonna go
big budget. I suppose the onlycaveat is, is, you know, there's
the Heir to the Empire stuffthat's clearly tied to Ahsoka and
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clearly tied to Mandalorianand Grogu. Is it just a way of people
or them trying to get peopleused to seeing those characters on
the big screen so that whenThrawn turns up and it's heir to
the Empire, they think, allright, okay, that's a follow up to
that film.
Yeah.
Which is inherent with, youknow, sort of comes. Comes with these
inherent problems of. Well, doI need to have seen the four scenes
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of Mando and Booker, Boba Fettand one season of Ahsoka to go and
watch this film? Because ifso, I'm not going to spend the money.
So. Yeah, very, very odd, man.Very interesting decision.
Yeah. Interesting strategy.See if it plays out for him. Yeah.
That's so weird though, dude.I'm also watching Game of Thrones.
I just downloaded the lot on Sky.
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Yeah, same.
Just dumped a lot on goingthrough it.
Have you seen it again? Haveyou seen it before?
Yeah, not all of it. I watchedthe first two seasons when it was
first coming out. You know, itis fucking good years ago, but it's
a very. Well, it's justboobies and dragons and it is that.
That is all that, you know,it's like a guy's perfect TV program
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in a way.
It is the stories and just.There are just a couple of. A couple
of episodes in it, dude, thatare absolutely just unbelievable.
Like, just unbelievable stuff.I like the entire series is stunning.
(30:38):
But there's. There's threeepisodes in particular stand out
for me and you're like, wow.Like, holy crap, that's proper.
It's cast property as well.Like, there's a couple of characters
early on that really got thememo that they wanted the viewer
to hate them.
Oh, God. Dude. There's twocharacters throughout three, probably
(30:58):
throughout the entire series.And you're like, water prick. And
you know, you just want badstuff to happen to him.
Good.
And they're so well writtenand well acted and. And it's like,
I won't ruin it. But there's acouple of characters that come in
later and you're like, Ithought that one were bad, but Jesus,
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this one is bad. It's. It'smint. It is mint.
I think I got up to where.Who's the guy who got his hand chopped
off?
Oh, Jamie Lannister.
Yeah, Lannister. Yeah. He's incahoots with the woman that played
Phasma. Phasma.
Brianna of Tarth.
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Yeah, yeah, that's it. Theywere in a hot tub.
Good stuff to come, man.
They were chilling out in somehot tub. That's where I got up to
last time I watched it.
You're actually pretty. That'sseason five, I think.
Oh, wow.
So after that it gets like.Season six is by far the best season.
It's amazing. So anyway, yeah,anyway, Game Thrones cast welcome
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everyone.
Yeah, it's a shame that thetwo guys that did that didn't work
out, their Star wars projectwith whoever was in charge because
that would have been coolbecause they're obviously very good
at that stuff. Characterdriven, you know. Anyway. Oh dear.
Finish up on a couple ofstories. Man, we love these type
of stories because it's likejell. It's like the green eyed monster
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reading it. The old Star warsauctions that happen with these screen
used original replicas that gofor silly money. There's a couple
here. The first one is anextremely rare saying. That quote
from the article Star warsmedal that Luke Skywalker wore after
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he destroyed the Death Star inStar Wars. So the big ceremony at
the end when Leia gives themthe medals and stuff, Luke's one
is apparently gone up forauction. It could sell, they reckon
up to four for up to £476,000here in the UK. Yep. So this is prop
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store again. These guysnormally get these kind of things
in. He says that it's got aspecial place in cinematic history.
Of course it goes on sale eventhough it's a UK auction. It goes
on sale in Los Angeles nextmonth and the estimate is going to
start at $300,000 and it willgo up to $600,000. And it comes from
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the collection of props masterGerard Bouck, who worked on the original
Star wars films when they wereshot at Elstree Studios. So this
is absolutely legit, 100%legit thing. And they say it's the
first and only medal to beoffered for public sale since the
movies were released. Sothere's that, which is cool. And
then the other prop which isgoing under the. The old hammer.
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Need your neck of the woods,dude. Up in North Yorkshire apparently
is a mint condition replica ofPrincess Leia's blaster. And this
one's not quite as pricey, butanyway, Rydale auctioneers estimate
it will go between 600 quidand a thousand pounds. This is the
(34:15):
auction house in KirbyMouldside. You probably know where
that is. I don't, but. Soyeah, dude, a couple of goodens up
for sale, man. I assume you'regonna, you're gonna have a punt just
for the crack, knowing thatyou're not gonna get it, but you
put a punt in anyway.
I probably would. Probablywould get it. No, no, I'm not gonna.
This is quite cool stuff.Yeah, it's only about. The second
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one's only about an hour fromus up, up in, like I said, up in
Naf Yorkshire. These are quitecool little things actually. You
sort of, you wonder like, arethese a genuine investment? Like
will they go up in price? Younever sort of know with stuff like
this, especially the blaster,because it's really clearly, you
know, you, a lot of peoplewill recognize the form of that blaster
(34:58):
and see it. Even people aren'tnecessarily massive, massive fans.
And the metal obviously,inevitably is, is a great bit of
kit as well. I mean the personto buy that's chewing is like, I'm
having that, you know, didn'tget one. So who's laughing now? So
sell the falcon. But yeah, no,I think I, I always like seeing stuff
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like this come up. I thinkthat it's quite fascinating to see
that these things are stilldotting around and people are still,
you know, still give a crapabout them. I think that it's always
nice to see that they'vesurvived and someone's looking after
them and. And hopefully thatcontinues. Yeah, I do wonder like
the Layer Blast. I think theLayer Blaster would be the one that
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I'd probably have a little,little smasher. I think that, that
what would sell that one wasgoing for. I mean that's only a grand.
I'd Be all right with that.
I only made.
Look at hot toys. The price ofhot toys.
Exactly. Yeah. You buy a fewof them pushing a grand. Yeah. So
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this is not important note onthis one listener, if you're thinking
about having a go at this aswell. It's not a screen used item,
it's a replica. But it's alegit replica that they proper job.
Yeah, yeah.
They only made a couple ofthousand of them and according to
the auction house, they rarelycome up for obvious reasons. If you
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get one of these, you're goingto keep hold of it, of course. So
that's pretty cool. And yeah,chuffing eck. Miss out on that. You'll
be Marty, wouldn't you? Yeah,you will.
If you want to be Mardi. You'dbe like mildly grumpy.
(36:44):
Mildly grumpy.
You'd be like, oh, you slag.
Oh, God. Yeah. You wouldn'tsleep over it, I guess.
No, make a brew.
You'd be like, ah, make itbrew. Proper coffee tap on here.
Don't like coffee, man. You know.
You know what? Mark is not acoffee drinker.
I wish I liked it because Iwalk into Starbucks or any, any absolute
(37:06):
coffee shop in London whereit's like, you've got to wear your
tweed jacket, your top hat,part your unicycle outside and just
bring your little poodle inwith. And you walk in, you're like,
oh, yes, squire, can I have abrew, please? And they're like, yeah,
man, you just behind these 26macchiatos with donkey milk and two
lots of cats fur in them, youknow, Bon Jovi size cups and 42 croissants
(37:32):
and you're like, tea bag and abit of water. Should I just pop it
in a cup? I don't want to waitsix months for this. So I don't like
coffee in multiple ways, thetaste nor the concept of twati coffee
shops. But I will take a brew off.
Your hands all day long in alittle polystyrene cup.
(37:53):
I do ask for a takeout cupmore often than not, you know, because
it keeps it a bit warmer.
Yeah, yeah. First time I metMark in, in down in that London.
Oh, ldn.
I think it's like LeicesterSquare or something around that area.
I was like, dude, let's go fora coffee. He's like, don't drink
it, mate. And I was like, oh,here we go. He's one of them. Here
(38:19):
we go. Let's go and get you achai latte or a. No, no, gray Whatever
you want, it's fine.
Can't cope with it. Just anormal brew. It does piss me off,
man. And then you go to America.
No, here we go.
And it's like, hey, man, can Iget you a coffee with the breakfast?
Like, no, I'll have a tea,please. And, like, no worries. And
they bring you like a lemontea or an Earl Gray. And they're
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like, do you want milk withthat? They bring you cream or half
enough. I'm like, like, I wentto. When we went to Orlando for work
earlier this year, I'm like,right, 42 tea bags in the bag. Yes.
Single, packed. And then everytime I went down to breakfast, I'm
like, listen up. I need semiskim milk, dude. I don't want any
cream, I don't want skim milk.I don't want your egg whites. I don't
want any of that. Bring methis right big hot water. And they
(39:02):
did. And my trip was a lotbetter for it.
Good. Yeah, yeah. That's asign of a seasoned traveler. Me and
the missus do that. We alwaystake tea bags. Oh, you've got to
do always. Yeah.
Single, packed. Yeah. Onething I do get my.
Oh, yeah, yeah. One thing I doappreciate about North America, though,
with the tea is sometimes Ihave a little bottle of honey out.
(39:23):
Oh.
So if you're not like, I usedto have sugar in my tea years ago,
but I don't anymore. But everynow and then, just a little squidge.
Little squidge.
Oh, no. Why would you ruin it?
Because. Oh, God, I like it.Not all the time. Just as a little
treat.
Well, different strokes fordifferent folks, which is fine.
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You can tell, listener, can'tyou, that Marcus just said, you're
wrong. A born and bredhardcore, proper brew. No nonsense,
no around with it. Just giveme a cup of tea. Yeah, I appreciate
it. I respect that.
A lot of people do get itwrong. They're like, how do you like
your tea? I'm like, strong. Sowhat they'll do is they put a little.
(40:05):
They just basically leave thetea bag in for 30 seconds and don't
put much milk in because theythink that that means strong. And
I'm like, minimum three minutebrew plenty of milk to offset it,
to complement it. Yeah.Strength does not preclude milk.
Calm yourself. Brew it up.You're making 42 of these donkey
milk macchiatos for thislittle hipster guitar player that's
(40:28):
walking around. You've gottime. Brew me tea properly. I've
paid two pound fifty for this.Yeah. And there's no reward card,
so give me a proper brew. Andthat were it didn't happen in the
end.
This is a problem with Kath.Every single video that you see from
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her turning up at the soundstage to have a look what's going
on, whatever. Always a largeStarbucks of something. Just have
a proper brew, Cath. Have anice cup of tea.
I reckon we could do like booka meeting with Kath. Just be like,
kk. She's like, what? Listen,we'll whip you over, take you out
(41:11):
for a nice, all you can eatItalian meal. Do what you want, get
calzone if you want, whatever,doesn't matter to me. And then come
round our house, got a sparebedroom, just decorated. It's got
feature wall shagger. Yeah,Put what you want on it, bring your
own gear and we'll leave youwell alone. However, we'll nip out
for a brew property, have alittle chin wag about Star Wars.
(41:31):
You make some notes, yeah. Getit written down, use Apple notes.
Very good. Whip yourself backhome, get a meeting together over
there, Take a couple of theseindividually wrapped tea bags, get
them all on it, sit down, whipyour notes out, sort it all out,
scheduling done. Next 10 yearsof star Wars. Just announce it next
month, it's fine. What's thatgoing to cost you? A couple of grand?
(41:54):
Yeah, worth it.
You couldn't be more correctif you tried, mate.
That's what's wrong with Star Wars.
That's what's wrong. There'snot enough proper brews going around.
Wasn't there an advert thatwhat his face did for Yorkshire tea?
Sha Bean, Sean Bean. Talkingabout that lad in it. Yeah, your
(42:15):
proper brew.
He got killed in Thrones,didn't he?
I know, I was livid as well. Ireally like Sean Bean. I think he's
a right guy. I remember himfrom, like When Saturday Comes, the
Chef United football film,where he's like, it's the classic,
like, I'm a. I'm just a washedup plumber. Yeah, I used to play
a bit as a kid, but it's notfor me, you know, I couldn't. I couldn't
possibly. And then it's like,yeah, of course, wins FA cup or something.
(42:38):
So, yeah, it's. It's likeclass. It is. Classic 90s Northern
film. Like when everything wasfull Monty and all that stuff.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is like, he's the guy.Robert Baratheon is the guy from
Full Monty as well, which is hilarious.
Yeah, that's a right film as well.
It'S a right film, yeah.
American, Canadian,Australian, maybe. Not Australian
(43:01):
listeners. What are you guystalking about? They probably have
no clue.
But just watch some old 90sEnglish films with Sean Bean. And
then because everyone's like,oh, he's in Game of Thrones and he's
in Lord of the Rings, he'slike, no, he's not easy. When Saturday
comes and the Yorkshire teaadverts, you sort of seem dotted
around Sheffield sometimes,you know, and you. You can like,
(43:23):
I never. I've never been closeenough to talk to him, but if I was,
I'd just do. I'd be like, allright, Sean. And. But I have seen
it happen where it'll be likea Saturday afternoon. Is he often.
Or used to go to, like, theChef United games. So you'd see him
in the city center, and he'djust be having a drink and stuff,
and someone would, you know,say something, and he was always
(43:43):
solid. He'd just be like,somebody blow. All right, Sean, how's
it going? And just go, allright, that was it. But no one hassles
him because he's clearly hard as.
Yeah, yeah. You won't messwith him. No.
And even if he's not thathard, he looks it. And because he's
getting older as well, he'sjust looking harder and harder and
harder and harder. And you'relike, you know what? You have your
(44:06):
beer in Wetherspoons. Matt.
Yeah, respectfully, yeah.Enjoy your afternoon, mate.
All the other celebs aregetting hassled, you know, I mean,
Jarvis Cocker comes toSheffield again, he's getting hassled
and stuff because he's like,you know, he's not gonna. He's not
gonna batter you, is he? AndSean Bean. Sean Bean's just, like,
got this massive perimetercircle. No bodyguards. It's just
because he's hard.
(44:30):
I love Sean Bean. He's a great guy.
I do. As well. He should be inStar Wars. Why is he not in Star
Wars? Imagine him as a Jedi.Well, fucking hell, not this again.
The Sith chuffing everywhere.That. Joking.
What would you prefer, though,in Star Wars? His natural accent
or the Boromir from Lord ofthe Rings, where he's a bit more.
Because in Star wars, they dohave a habit of doing the classic
(44:52):
old British accent.
They really do.
So he can do both. Yeah. Range.
Yeah. It's still northern inLord of the Rings, isn't it? Clearly,
every time it slips out.
Yeah.
But I would prefer him as justthis Northern guy, you know, he Whips
up. It's like, oh, you know,Master Bina, you've been summoned
(45:12):
to the Jedi Council. You know,I mean, you're just like Master Beano.
Long time been away. You have.It's like years shagger overnight.
Couldn't believe it. Jocastaknew we're in there. I said, I don't
(45:32):
want to get some snapper orwhat? Just are all this in here?
She said, no, I can't. I saidthey were. I've not seen it for 24
years and they're saying nowI'm not having this. That's why I've
come to see the Order, love.That's why I've come to see the sweaty
tart shagger. How's this, dude?
I'm getting over a cold. Don'tmake me laugh because my chest is
(45:54):
hurting.
Oh, he would be hilarious in that.
Just that opening bit. Yeah,it's been parsec shagger.
I woke in a duck kessel runand all. But nobody's doing that
no more, are there?
Would it be. Would it be theusual sign off that you do a lot
(46:16):
like just quietly later.
All right. You're the lovemercy. Good to see the. Nice to see
the fisto. All right, I'll seethe. And then just lit. But like
just turns around, pisses offand there's just his apprentice there.
Like what the has justhappened? Like this really well spoken
(46:41):
little alien kid is likemaster, you know, bewilderment throughout.
How's that, Anakin? Likegetting on anyway, all right? Is
it doing all right? Is it R40?We're going to be all right. Little
bastard. You know when he comein with that ball there. But I said
we've just sort that out.We're not having that. We're not
(47:01):
having that.
Oh, genius, man. Kath, comeon. We've got it all here.
Gold.
Oh, cool. On that nice chirpy,funny note, let's end episode 242four
for not the last time, but thelast full on weekly time. We'll say
(47:22):
goodbye for 214. Thank youvery much for sticking with us over
the years as we've plottedthrough mostly every week to bring
(47:45):
you all the Star wars news andall the. All the MacGuffins that's
been going on within the worldof Star Wars. We are going to change
it up a little bit. As I saidat the beginning of this episode,
we're moving to a seasonalthing and we will be back at some
point towards the end of Aprilto give you the skinny on what happened
at Star Wars Celebration overin Japan. So hoping for some big
(48:05):
announcements, but with thecaveats, the asterisk that they're
sensible with it. Don't wantto see like 50 announcements for
20 films and all that stuffknowing that only one of them is
going to make it through. Sohere's hoping they're sensible with
that. We'll give you all theupdates on that and then we'll be
back again at some point inJune, beginning of June, around that
time to talk About AndorSeason 2 and to get some people on
(48:28):
the show, chat Star wars, somecool interviews and some other cool
bits. So we'll be back then.So, dude, it's been good. Good laugh,
this one.
Yeah, good crack, innit? Whenthere's no real Star wars news, it's
like, right, we'd better do ashow about something. We'll digress.
We'll digress. Yeah. I'mlooking forward to the new format,
man. We've got a couple ofguests that I'm gonna try and get
(48:49):
on. We spoke about them beforeoffline, but there's certainly two
of them that are chomping atthe bit, which I think were really,
really interesting. And we'lldo the andor recap as well as part
of that first quote unquoteproper season back. But the celebration
stuff, fascinated to see whatthat'll be like. A little bit good.
We're not going to Celebrationin Japan, but it's just, you know,
London was easy becausethere's no jet lag and real major
(49:11):
time cost or actual cost. Sowe'll see what comes out of that
as well, dude. But yeah,looking forward to it. And if anything,
I think if anything majorhappened as well, just a little caveat,
like if anything major doeshappen in the meantime, like if there's
a big news story drop that'sreally big enough to warrant it,
we might just dive in with abit of an episode on it as well.
So never say never.
(49:32):
Yeah, very true. It's not thelast time you'll hear us dive in
and talk about Star wars, ofcourse. So. And once again, make
sure that you're following thethe the podcast so you don't miss
notifications when these newepisodes do drop in the near future.
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