April 4, 2022 • 53 mins
Lynne Deschenes, Acupuncturist and Owner of the Access Clinic in Byfield, MA joins us for a discussion about acupuncture. We discuss different type of acupuncture, the methodology behind acupuncture and what you can expect if you try it. Also how she also incorporates traditional Chinese herbs into her treatment protocols.
Lynne also talk with us about Zero Balancing, an energy healing modality she also practices and how that can help with chronic conditions or things you just can't get rid of!
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Hi, everyone. I'm Lila and I'm Angel Amy.
And today we're super excited wehave with us, Linda Shane, from
an acupuncturist from the accessclinic.
Some Hi, Lynne. Hello, ladies.
Yeah, I'm so excited to haveLynn here, because I actually
don't know you like, I don'tknow, Lynn Nope. So I have
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pretty much known every guestthat we've had. And I love
strangers. And I love that thereis a stranger in the house.
Pretty excited. So I'm gonna getto know Lynn, as you all of you
start to listen and get to knowher. This is going to be a
really exciting, adventurousjourney. And I do want to say,
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I've never tried acupuncture,which is crazy. So we will kind
of learn why as we go. But yeah,I'm just so happy to have you
here. Lynn.
Thank you. I'm really excited tobe here.
And I do know Lynn. So Lynn,tell us a little bit about what
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got you into acupuncture.
What like every important thingin your life, it was totally by
accident.
I love that. I love that. Justso designed and meant to be
exactly likea Kismet injury moment. So I was
working out in a gym and I blewout my knee just it I was in so
much pain. And one of the womenthat I was training with said,
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Oh, I'm going to see myacupuncturist. Why don't you
just come? And I said, allright. And I'm thinking what the
heck's and acupuncture? Sohobbled, you know, from Copley
Square down Huntington forever.
It felt like I think it took usan hour to walk there because I
was hobbling and then up thisfour story brownstone thing and
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into these cavernous dark rooms.
And I thought, Oh, my God, whereit like, and three hours later,
I literally walked outcompletely healed. I have chills
from head to toe. Wow. And Ijust thought what in the world?
Did I just experienced? Becausethis is crazy. I was really
injured, and I really washealed. That's amazing. That's
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beautiful. Yeah, it was. And sofrom that moment, I just said,
What is this thing calledacupuncture? I know, it's 1000s
of years old. I know, it camefrom China. And so I decided to
do some volunteering work.
Because interestingly, or maybenot. There was a clinic right
below my office where I wasworking. Oh, wow. And the clinic
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focused in on working withpeople with HIV and AIDS. And I
thought, well, maybe they needto volunteer. And I went down,
and I volunteered. And Ihonestly, I was so moved by
working with the population andwatching the acupuncturist work
with the population that werejust truly suffering. And I
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thought about and I said, youknow, these are the best three
hours of my week,I'm getting emotional. I'm
getting emotional, because I Ihonestly feel that anyone that
works with a community such asthe HIV that is such, like a
labor of love in coming fromsuch an authentic place within.
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So like, Thank you for yourservice that is so beautiful.
Well, it really changed my life.
I mean, watching such compassionand true relief brought on the
faces of these patients. It wasjust, I thought, you know, I
just want to do this. I'm justquitting my job. I'm gonna go to
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school. And I did. Oh, wow. andI were you in the Pru?
I was right next to thePrudential I can see the
Prudential so yes, welke moment.
I actually take that back. Itwasn't the proof was the Hancock
Tower.
Oh, me too. So I was going toask you because I'm seeing a
high rise. So I was in theHancock. I'll have to get your
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dates to see if you were there.
Well, I was there in the early90s. Okay, mid 90s. And then I
left to go to acupuncture.
So this was not in the 90s Okay,I came on the scene in the late
90s. Okay, I started to work forBoston in the late 90s to for 10
years. Yep. So you 1000sYeah, so I was gone from from
Boston by 96.
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So you know that the thatcommute and the whole thing. We
have a lot in common. Oh my god.
Stranger and the wind tunnelbetween St. James St. Clarendon
It was frightening rightliterally you could be blown
away. You could don't follow itthat hairspray girl. Yeah, like
no, it's going it's gettingugly. Yeah. Like if it rained
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and like you're don't even trydon't have no there's no there's
no pointright? So, okay, so you, you
were feeling the love and youwere you were with this
community. So what happensnext? And then I went to
acupuncture school.
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So where do you do that? Like,where
do you Well, at the time, NewEngland School of acupuncture
was located in Watertown.
Awesome. And since it's beenabsorbed by the college
pharmacy, New England Collegepharmacy, oh, wow, Mr. Yeah,
it's kind of sad. But anyway, Igraduated in 99. And then I
opened a practice in Amesbury,and I've been in practice ever
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since that'samazing. So when you first quit
your job and say, I'm going toacupuncture school, what was the
reaction of the people aroundyou?
Like, what? What's acupuncture?
Yeah, especially in the 90s.
Yeah. And,but I'm that person who just
does what she wants to do.
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And I love that about you. Andthat's great.
I just, it was there was no,there was no going back. There
was no going back. That'samazing. Yeah. So I think in
life, you listen to those gutinstincts. Because that's your
inner that's your internalcompass. You know what's right
for you? And then you just walkthat path,
and it felt right to you. Yeah.
Okay. So why part ofacupuncture? Like weird, I want
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to know about like, theconnection? Like, what part of
that modality Do you reallyconnect to from from like,
within you?
That's no one's ever asked thatquestion before. That's a really
good question. So I'm deep Lynn.
Yeah, no, that's really good. Sothe, the energy of the organs is
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fascinating to me, okay. So theliver has a certain energy, the
spleen, the heart, the liver,the gallbladder, all your
internal organs have their ownenergies, and their own jobs.
Well, we know that from Westernmedicine, they all have a job.
But in Eastern medicine, theyhave a unique job unto
themselves. And then there's apathway that connects that organ
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throughout the body. So one ofmy favorite stories is, is when
you deal with someone with amissing organ, let's say their
gallbladder,yeah, Ryan's missing girlfriend,
so.
So they'll say, Well, I stillget this pain. And this pain
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shouldn't be here anymore,because I don't have my
gallbladder anymore. I said, butwhen they took up a gallbladder,
they didn't take out thepathway. Oh, wow. So the energy
is still in the pathway.
I just got chills. So that meansthat this woman is speaking the
truth. Telling the left side ofme just got chills. Yeah, they
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don't take out the pathway. No.
So it's an energetic pathway.
And even for an amputee, theydon't take away the energetic
pathway. So they can still thatwhole Phantom. Yes, yes. You
know, amputations they stillfeel the limb. Yeah, it's
because energetically, they theenergy still there. Even though
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it's not part of the limb.
It's just like, when I go intosomeone's house, and they're
say, their dog passes, and I canstill feel the dog present in
the home or a person. So when weenter a room being energetic
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beings, we have energy, and ourenergy is given off into the
room. And when you leave theroom, your energy is still in
the room. So that's when youhear a bunch of spiritualist
say, I need to energy clear myhouse. Yeah, I need to, I need
to say, I need to open a Windowsbecause I want to get it all the
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heck out. Right. Yeah. So thatit works for for positive
energies and also works fornegative energies. And so that's
similar to my world. So Iappreciate that. Yeah. And I can
see that connection.
Yeah, I so because your audienceis who they are, I can actually
talk about this sort of stuff.
But so a lot of times peoplewill be lying in a treatment.
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And I'll leave the room. Andthen we'll say, but when you
just somehow then you just cameback and you You did this to the
needle. And I know I haven'tactually gone back over again.
that'll explain to them I said,Well, you know, sometimes others
help. something extra needed tohappen. Somebody did so cool. I
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think you should tell them.
Well, you know, there's athere's actually a portrait in
my office of my best friend whopassed she we went to
acupuncture school together. SoKate is always in treatment
rooms with me. Kate's movingthose needles, right? She's
like, you know, she wasn't Thebest, the best. Yeah, so Kate
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will come in and clean up mymess and, and then we'll agree
that I'm still on this plane andthat she'll be on that plane
helping me out.
That's really cool. So so theycan kind of feel the needles. I
remember. So once I left Boston,I actually went to massage
school. Oh, cool. And I am Igive the worst massage ever.
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Right. But again, it was acalling it was a path to take me
into the land of energy. And Iremember being in a polarity
class. And I was the demo personon the table. And my teacher,
she was I felt two hands on myhead. But I could feel her on my
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feet. Right. And so I told herat the end, and she said, Amy,
that was your spirit guide. Andso it's just so beautiful how,
whether you're, you know,intuitive psychic, we all have
innate knowings. And everyonehas the ability to feel these
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things. And feel healers aroundus that aren't on this plane.
Right. So neat. Very neat. Whatdo you think of that? Lila? I
love it. Yeah.
I love it. It's so sounds socool. So
when you when when Lin hasworked on you? Yes, yes. Let's
talk a little bit about yourexperience.
So I went to Lynn, I thinkinitially about my digestion
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like my stomach, IBS. So withLynn, I've been to a couple of
different kinds of acupuncture.
I've done community acupuncture,where you kind of sit in a
chair, you're in a group, andthe needles are usually like
from your elbows down your feet.
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And there was always one on thetop of my head. In between your
eyes. I think it's the stressone she wouldn't really tell
us. I usually call that the teakettle point. So it actually
lets the steam out of thetunnel.
But I've also done you knowwhere I've had needles done all
across my back and they putsomething on there.
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Some MoxaYeah, yes, they light that.
Yeah, I don't know what any ofthat is. That was totally
different to it's called. Sopause there for me and everyone
else that does Okay, her MoxaNo. moksa so it's moxibustion.
moxibustion is an herbarredamento For Garrus I believe
Artemesia vulgaris, and it is,it treats pain. It's very
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moving. We use it to actuallyturn breech babies. Oh, yeah,
chill. So it brings the heatdown through the needle and into
into the structure of the bodyso that you get a nice deep heat
treatment. And yeah, it's it's agreat are.
Okay, that's great. Okay, keepgoing. I'm sorry. No. So
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learning as I go,I mean, these were the just the
different ways that I've had itdone. lenses. A lot of it was
because my knees down. And mystomach.
Yeah. Yeah. So I practice moreof a traditional Chinese
medicine style. And Iincorporate Chinese herbs. With
my treatment for some people,some people just want herbs,
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some people will do both. Somepeople just want acupuncture.
But some people do zerobalancing, especially if the
acupuncture is not moving. Inthe in the way that I think it
could, then we work a little bitdifferently.
So what are the different typesof acupuncture? Because you
mentioned Do you practiceChinese? Are there others?
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Yeah, I also do a non insertion,Japanese style of acupuncture
where the needle doesn'tactually go in the body. It's
called toI Hari. And that is forpeople who are either very young
and they're needle phobic, orpeople that are needle phobic
just to begin with. But also forpeople's energies, who are their
energy travels verysuperficially. So their energy
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is very easily influenced. Soyou don't even actually need to
insert the needle in order toaffect the same change.
So what do you do with theneedle?
It looks very like looks likepoetry. It's kind of cool. So I
have so many questions we'll usewe'll use the same points. But
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that we I'll use a gold needle.
In fact, I was using a goldneedle a lot with my equine
clients. Where I would, becausehorses energy is just, I mean,
they can sense Madrigal. Yeah,they sent you from many yards
away. And you can So I when Itreat horses, I actually don't
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use insertion, I just use a noninsertion style of acupuncture.
And that's really cool. So forthe very energetically
sensitive, I don't insertneedle, because I don't need to.
Oh, I love this. So cool.
Japanese is a non essentialneedle technique.
Well, Japanese is a very shallowinsertion or a non insertion.
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Okay. And then Chinese isinsertion. Yeah. Is there a
third one?
Well, then there's differentmodalities where you just use
the ear. Oh, or just the hand inKorean. I don't have any
training Korean handacupuncture, but certainly the
auricular Yes, I did some workwith them working in a drug and
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alcohol detox center, where Itreated patients going through
detox. Mostly doing earacupuncture. Oh, wow. But also
somebody acupuncture.
So in. I don't know if you knowthis Lin, EFT, practitioner
tapping love tapping me toemotional freedom technique. And
there are acupressure points onthe air air. And I bet it's
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similar.
Well, yeah, all of the EFTpoints or acupuncture points.
Yes. Yeah.
So this is actually I have tojust tell this quick little
story. But um, when I first metAmy, I had been going to
acupuncture, and the acupuncturesaid I was going to was moving.
So she was leaving. And then Amyand I were at a school function
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like a party and the kid. And Ihad said, like, Oh, something
about acupuncture. And Amy said,oh, you should try tapping
because it works along the samemeridian. Exactly. Acupuncture.
Yep. And that was I was like,Oh, I'm in
school. So the truth goes likethis is that Lila and I were
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talking in a group of otherwomen. And when I started to
lean into talking about energy,and how it connects back to the
emotions, they it was like, thesea parted. Like they
immediately got up and movedaway.
Right? I tapping away. Yeah.
And this is a lesson foreveryone. You when in situations
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like that, you just you dropright into your authentic place
within, and you hold yourselfand you stick with the
conversation. And you focus onyour intention, and not
everybody and everyone else'sreaction. Because let's talk
about what happened to you afteryou started talking. I'm
tapping. I loved it. Right.
Yeah. And back got back up. Itwas much better. He said the
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recipe everybody. Yeah, she didsee, she tapped in. You had an
awesome chiropractor at the timein in acupuncture. Yep. And
yeah, so it was a it was, I wasI stuck with it with Lila,
because I could feel that apiece of her recipe was the
emotional connection. Wherethere needed to be a little
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emotional healing, which that'swhat tapping offers. Yeah,
right. Yeah. Now, that leads meto Lynn, to kind of explain why
I've never done an acupunctureis because I haven't found a
practitioner that can linkeverything together with the
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emotional component. So I'm veryrooted in having natural
abilities to kind of know, whensomeone has a problem, whether
it's physical, mental,emotional, spiritual, I can see
the root of it. So naturally, Iwould need to I would need to
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find another healer, that wasable to get to the root of it as
well, in order for me to benefitfrom it.
Yeah. So how I explain who I amto people, is that I'm an
advocate for the body. So weare, you know, we're up in our
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sort of heads a lot. We're inour spiritual brain, we're in
our emotional brain, but thatthe body tends to be, I don't
know, maybe taken for granted,maybe ignored, maybe not paid
attention to enough maybe notcared for enough. And my job is
to listen to the body, and thenconvey that information back to
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you. And then you Oh, oh, geez,maybe, maybe I do need to sleep
more than four hours. Or, maybeI could stop lifting this in
this particular way. BecauseI'll say you know, your body
doesn't really like it.
Or not eat two Oreos before yougo to bed. Because that was me
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last night when I roll railhere. Yeah.
So So yeah, choice. Oh, But attimes, we just, you know, we're
so interested, and those otherrealms that we kind of forget
about this plane and this vesselthat we have to walk around in.
Yep, yes. And then we do load itup too much. You know, like, I'm
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guilty. I, when my boys aren'treally ready to help me lift all
that hay and stack that, hey, Ijust do it myself. And then my
back hurts. And I say, Well, whyis my bad hurting? Yeah, because
you lifted the hay by yourselfand you take the time to have a
good conversation about guys.
Can you just maybe help me?
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Because I really shouldn't dothis by myself.
Right. So now she's talkingabout Lila tuning in to what she
needs. Yes.
Well, what I was gonna say wasthat, you know, through like,
endurance training andeverything like it people will
tell you like, what are some ofthe slogans right? Shut up leg,
like, ignore your body, like,literally are trained to ignore
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pain. It's happening. Right.
So and your pain? Your body hastwo ways of communicating pain
and dysfunction. Yeah, correct.
So if you don't pay attention,it's just gonna get louder.
Right, right. Yeah. So itstarted out with just tiny
little pain and thatoccasionally, and then you go on
and you ignore it, and then youjust push through it, just push
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through that pain. And then itgets louder. And then it's like,
Well, she didn't pay attentionto the low back pain. What if I
took out her hip?
Right, so so. So this is babyboomer and Gen X, right? And
some millennial energy, and thenit started, when we get into
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Gen, my favorite Gen Z, six to24. In the little app, baby
alphas, they're in tune withwhat we're talking about. Like
they know I need to stop, I canremember I most you know, I have
a 14 year old. And when she waslittle, she would be on a
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playdate. And she would be shewould remove herself. And the
little like the little childwould say, we had Julie ago, and
I'd say she's just gonna goupstairs for a few minutes, and
then she'll rejoin you. Shewould actually remove herself,
and then rejoin smart. And itshe's still like that. And it's
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just something that they'reteaching us. Yeah.
If we're listening if, if, if wechoose to listen, right? Because
because we go, go, go go rightuntil we're completely
overwhelmed. And then I couldstart to lean into how then most
of us start to numb the pain,whether it's to Oreos on the
couch, or a bottle of vodka,right? We could just go on and
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on. Right? So you're on themoney when you're onto
something.
So I just wanted to say reallyquickly that I think it's
important that the needles don'thurt, right? So anyone who's
afraid of needles like that toeverybody says like, Is it
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painful? No, it's it's not.
It's,I absolutely love the phone
calls will someone will say, Allright, you know what, I've been
putting this off, you're my lasthope. And I'm even willing to
try acupuncture. And I said, Oh,my gosh, you're so lucky.
Because you're not even going tofeel the needles, you're going
to feel like, did I just have amassage? But no one touched me.
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Yeah, I would agree withtotally.
I needed to hear that because Idon't love needles. No, I, I
don't really love physical pain.
But who does? I mean, somepeople can push when we talk
about like being at the gym, andlike push through that feeling a
lot more than others, but Idefinitely have not picked
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acupuncture over the needles. SoI'm glad you said that. There's
you don't bring it in, right?
That's why you know, yes.
Well, the reason that they don'thurt is because when you're when
you go to the doctor and you getan injection, well, they are
injecting something. So thatneedle has to have multiple
points of insertion because it'sa hollow piece of metal, right?
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an acupuncture needle is reallylike a pin. So it's solid, okay,
with a single point ofinsertion. So if you've ever
plucked an eyebrow, it's noteven gonna be half of that.
Okay, that's hopeful. Yeah. Ilike that. It's all right. And
then you so then Lynn comes in,she puts the needles we'll talk
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about where she decides to putthem but the needles and then
you like snoozy and they're,like heat on you and there's
wonderful like ocean sounds.
It's like you're out.
Yeah, most people do actuallyfall asleep.
How long is an average session?
You're probably On the table agood 4550 minutes. Okay. Yeah.
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And is this covered by anyinsurance yet?
Yeah, actually many, many PPOplans will have acupuncture as a
benefit.
I have a feeling mine does.
I take advantage? Yeah.
I have a feeling mind does Iactually take people's What's it
H F O to set the health savings?
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Yes. Yes.
For tapping? Yeah. In that goesthrough, which is really
exciting. So it's it's neat tosee that insurance is starting
to recognize this aspreventative care. Yeah, too.
Yeah. Yeah. Are there differentsize needles?
There are so depending uponwhere the issue is. So
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obviously, when I do facialacupuncture for like things
like, why don't like mywrinkles, they're really tiny,
short, tiny needles. And forpeople who have even know that
was an option, wait a minute whyam I not getting? Because you
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don't have any wrinkles. Butthen there are longer needles
for areas of the body, likegoing into the buttocks. So you
know that deep piriformismuscle? Yeah, you know, you go
in there. So you know, we mightbe going in a good inch or two.
Yeah, not on the trunk of thetruck.
So does that make a difference?
Like what youknow, you won't feel it anymore?
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Okay. Yeah. Because really, thethe nerve endings are right
below the surface of the skin.
So you could go in as deep asyou need, and you're not going
to feel it.
When you can, can we now leaninto Lila? Can we lean into a
little bit about like, how shedecides like where it's okay. So
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so when you someone comes toyou? I'm sure there is a few
minutes of like, what do youhave going on? Yeah. What do you
want to work on? I'm surethere's
a quest exactly what I say. Whatdo you want to work? Yeah. And
then they'll say what they wantto work on. Okay. And I keep
that in the back of my mind. Andthen they lie down. And then I
feel their pulses, because theirpulses, ultimately tell me what
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I need to work.
Hold there. So pulse is likeyour heartbeat pulse.
Yep. So your wrist pulse. Soeveryone has representation in
their pulses of all the internalorgans that we've got. Okay, so
on the right side, we call thatyour chi side or your energy
side. And that's the spleen inthe stomach. It's the kidney
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pulses, the lungs in the largeintestine, the left liver,
gallbladder heart. So you canpretty much access any pulse
that you need by going to aspecific side of the body.
I've learned something new.
That's really neat. So thattells you now what's highest and
best right to work on. Right? Sothey may say, Oh, I'm having
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digestive problems. Yes. Andthen I'll feel the pulses. And
I'll say I was a little excessin the stomach. I feel that
there's a little deficiencygoing on in the liver. I feel
that so then I choose liverpoints, stomach points on the
body to affect treatment. Andthen while someone's lying on
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the table, I can check in withthe pulses and say, oh, yeah,
no, it's feeling better. Thingsare moving in the right
direction.
Are you checking pulse with yourhands? Yeah. With my fingers.
Okay. Yeah. Awesome. And then,so then that tells you kind of
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where to go. Have you had anyonethat starts to have an emotional
release? While they're layingthere?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure.
And I always let people knowthat. It's energy. Absolutely.
And it's moving. And it's okay.
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So I would look at them and backyou up and say in this release,
right now, it's going to changeyour life. Yes, that's when the
magic starts to happen.
Yeah, right. For sure. I've seenI mean, I can't talk about
stories because they'repersonal, right. But I have seen
absolutely transformativemoments with someone on the
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acupuncture tale. It's reallyhumbling right
and let's talk about your own.
So when your knee was healed,yeah, at at on some level, there
was an emotional, spiritual,energetic shift, because by the
time it gets into the physical,it has now gone through Oh,
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yeah, all those moving parts,right?
Yeah, knees, you know, in some,in some realms knees are all
about transition. They are howwell do we transition from one.
And I knew I needed to make achange professionally what I was
doing, and that it was time forme, but I didn't know where I
was, what was going to happen?
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So look at that you the thingthat healed you ended up being
or the thing that offered youhealing I should say right ended
up being the path. Yeah. So seeeverybody how it finds you
totally finds you I almost wantto say just stop looking. Like
just stop looking. And just beand be open and it will find
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you. Yeah, be receptive and willbe receptive. Yeah. To your
highest and greater good, right.
Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Yeah.
So then tell us a little bitabout the herbs. So those work.
They're complementary toacupuncture?
Yeah. So, you know, in China,not a lot of acupuncture is
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practiced. Really? Yeah. Lookat. In fact, I had a Chinese
woman come to me from China. Andshe said, What's acupuncture?
And I said, Oh, really? It'sfrom your culture? Wow. Yeah.
Because their medicine isherbal. Their original medicine
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is herbal medicine.
Well, and I had understood thatin Chinese or in China, when
they practice acupuncture, it'smuch more of a community style
as woman said to me, like,you're just gonna sit in a
chair. Yeah, it's gonna be noteven quiet, like people are
gonna be talking or whatever.
And you're gonna sit there,right. So when I first went into
practice, I said, you know, I'mgoing to practice authentically,
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I'm just going to open a shop,say, Come on in. And, and I did,
and people just came on it. Andso I practiced, and then I
started the first communityacupuncture clinic in probably
Massachusetts. That's awesome.
And I started it back in theearly 2000s. And I took no
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appointments. And I just said,Come on in. And if they needed
herbs, I went into my pharmacyput together herbs, I put people
in chairs, I put people ontables. I didn't just treat from
the knees and the elbows down.
If you had sciatica, I threw ona table and I said, you're gonna
need to wait 25 minutes, and I'mworking over here. And I was
like, That person spinning the12 plates. Yeah. And just, and
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then 10 years later, I said, Ithink I'm tired. I'm just gonna
take appointments now. So yeah,the hard part was when I had to
put together herbal stuff. Atthe same time as then I gotta go
change needles, and thank Godfor my dog, my dog would come to
clinic. Marie, everyone lovedMarie. And Marie would be the
greeter he'd everyone would comein, and Marie would be sweet
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Mary, and then he check onpeople. And then he'd come find
me and look at me with thattilting his head like, she's
been on the table like an hour.
You got people waiting. Oh,okay. All right. And then I go,
I love that change thingsaround. Marie was the real boss,
Marie Moran the clutter? Yeah.
Everyone loved Marie. So, soyes, I have larger pharmacy. And
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then when people are willing todrink the stinky tea, because it
doesn't taste good, unless youneed it. Now. That's the beauty
of herbs. So if you really needthese herbs, and they're really
resonant with your condition,somehow, in a crazy way, you
really enjoy the taste.
(33:41):
Are you hearing this Andy?
That's my husband, becausethere'll be a tea and then he'll
say, I can't drink that everagain. And I'll say, I'll look.
And it's like the one he needsthe one he just connected it.
Yeah, I'll just put words Yeah,in my interest. But
if Andy kept drinking it, itwould he'd get he would actually
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start saying, dude, are yougoing to get more of that tea
for me? Because I think aboutWow, that's fascinating and is
fast. Yeah.
Is it all teas?
Hills? Yeah, no, there are pillsdo your best. But the true
authentic experiences that youknow, is you take the raw or so
there's a wonderful practitionerBJ way down in Austin. What's
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the best experience? You don'tmake an appointment, you
literally walk into hisstorefront and he's got just
beautiful herbs everywhere thatsmells amazing. Wonderful child
Chinese practitioner. He'll feelyour pulse doesn't talk very
much to you. And then we'llwrite out in characters what
your formula is. And then hisassistants will put it together
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for you. Oh, wow.
Let's go. Very cool. That'sreally cool. Yeah, it's very
cool. So my My parents are bothstill alive and my mom is going
to be 71 on Sunday. You And shehas been into herbs my entire
life, like back when no onetalked about doing our biology.
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And so I grew up around herbs.
And still to this day I preferhealing through herbs as my
number one go to. And so that'skind of like a needed me and I
just like, I feel like I neededto give her a little plug.
Because, yeah, Paula was veryhip in the 70s and 80s Whenever
I thought she was a freak show,ya know?
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She's She's cool.
Yeah. So she she definitelyleaned into that in till this
day. She takes no meds. Zero.
Yeah. So and I think it's herher her health and her eating in
her herb ology. Yeah,she's in balance. Yes, right.
She is now she lost 100 poundsduring COVID Oh my Wow. Yeah,
(35:57):
she did when 2020 struck rightbefore. She was like, I'm either
gonna get, you know, sicker anddie, or I'm gonna get healthy.
And she got she did. She changedher eating habits. She's very
inspiring.
That is amazing. Good for her. Imean, she she took that lesson
of this experience. Right?
She did. Yeah. Let's talk alittle bit about the zero
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balancing that you do, becauseLila told me about it. Before I
met you. And I was like, thatreally? Like resonates for me.
And so let's just tell peoplelike what it is and we can hear
about Lila is experience andyeah,
so zero balancing is is a is ait's a bodywork that was devised
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by Dr. Fritz Smith, and he's inhis 90s now living out in
California, and he still teachesand he has zero balancing
Association and where you canget certified and all that kind
of thing. And most people gointo zero balancing are people
that are body workers, somephysical therapists, some
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acupuncturists, chiropractors,pts. So it's it's a marriage of
all of his training as anosteopathic doctor. So he's done
Rolfing he's done cranialsacral. He's obviously an
osteopath, chiropractic. I thinkhe even studied acupuncture. So
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he took all of his theories anddevised this system called zero
balancing. Cool. And the idea isthat true to his osteopathic
background, that energy isreally stored at the bone level.
So when you experience a trauma,it's sort of surface right? And
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then it goes through your softtissue, connective tissue, and
then we'll wind up basicallyimprinting itself into your
bone. And of course, we know ourour cells are coming from our
bone or bone marrow. So I thinkthat's how we're able to
constantly lay down patterns ofdisorder, or bad memory or bad
(38:18):
trauma. And it becomes imprintedin us that that's who we kind of
are. Right? So what zerobouncing does, in my experience,
is that it on Earth, thoseimprinted codes, if you will,
yeah, those traumas, we talkedabout this Lila, yeah. And
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surfaces so that you can releaseit. So your zero balancer
practitioners, number one goalis to allow you to release what
needs to be released. Sometimeswe go in thinking one thing that
we want to release, and anothertime, something completely
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different releases, and I justexplained that that's what was
the priority.
And so you again, if I came andI talked about, like, kind of
what I'm working, what I want towork on, or what I'm working on
personally, you would be able toknow where to go on the body to
achieve a release.
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So there is a format that we allfollow as a zero balancing
practitioner, okay, sort of aformula. So we start at A to Z,
and you follow these things.
However, probably mostpractitioners will spend more or
less time on one particular areaof the body because they're not
necessarily drawn to that area.
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And therefore they put theirfocus on what's calling them.
Okay, beautiful. Yeah, what wasyour experience Lila? I loved
it.
So I mean, for me, it was Idefinitely felt like the
manipulation of the joints likefor me in your your hip, like if
you pull on my leg, pulling thatout pulling like my neck, like
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gently pulling. Yeah. Verygently pulling, but, you know,
my neck out and stuff that wasgreat. I was like, I was so
relaxed when I was done wasamazing felt
like release. Oh, yeah. So mytrainer, my personal trainer,
usually once a week he'll, he'llstretch me out. And I really try
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to tune in and see what I'mwilling to let go of while he's
doing it. So that's just asuggestion for people that
stretch at home. You know,seeing Lynn would be amazing.
But if you're not able to dothat, or can afford that you
could do some stretches at homeand start to tune in to, I
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guess, listening to the tensionand listening to the pain. And
just bringing yourself to apoint of maybe discomfort, not
not pain, pain. If you feelpain, we want to get out of it.
Right? But really takingyourself to a point of
discomfort in using the breathand breathing through it. Did
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you breathe at all I love whileshe was doing it.
I'm sure I breathe. Okay.
What's interesting is that weactually follow people's
breaths. So their eyes areclosed.
I'm saying this then for thatknow about that we so we follow
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people's breath.
So we can sense when the energyis almost like a wave. Right?
Yeah. So we can feel the energyand then what will happen is, is
the person will go okay, so thatdid that. Okay, now I can move
on.
And then when like someone likeme when like, I kind of stopped
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breathing, just like stuckenergy, right? Yeah. Oh, this
Amy needs a little love there.
She's a little assistancereleasing something from this
area.
Or just reorganizing it? Not wedon't always need to release.
But sometimes we need to reorgreorganize it.
Okay, good. Oh, that's good.
Yeah. Now, I am kind of puttingyou on the spot here at the end
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of this little podcast, but Ifeel like you can see like in
your third eye. So sometimeswhen you work on certain people,
are you able to see things?
Yeah. So not with acupuncture.
Okay. It it's like I'm adifferent person, when I'm, when
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I'm when I'm when I when I'm anacupuncturist. I'm performing my
role as a diagnostic, Titian andthen someone who does the
treatment, but with zerobalancing a whole lot of stuff.
You can like, see and feel andknow.
Yeah, I see.
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A lot. I feel like you maychannel with acupuncture. Some
some. I honestly feel it'sdifferent than universal energy.
That's kind of like a broadform, when people don't really
know who they're connecting to.
But you you have some sourcethat you're connecting to.
That's directing you through theacupuncture, like Yeah, I feel
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that.
Yeah, sometimes. I'll have theintention that I'm going to do
X, Y, and Z. And then I lookstand back and I go, Oh, I did.
C, D and E.
Something else takes over.
So yeah, I have an intention forthe for the treatment, but I
don't always actually end updoing that.
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Right. I love that. So somethingelse is leading it. Yeah. And
then when you were in do zerobalancing. Do you feel like it's
a higher self connection? Like,is it coming from like, like,
inside of you, like a knowingit's a it's like a conversation
in my head almost. Okay. Sosometimes people show up. Pets
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show up. Okay. Past life stuffshows up.
So that's okay. So that this isthe difference. Lila she's
traveling through thedimensions. So in the first
she's doing this, yes. So I'mgoing to back up the bus. So in
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Accu puncture, Lin is channelingin a healer or a collective
consciousness that's that isconnected to healing. And then
when you're in zero balancing,it is more of like, what did I
(44:58):
just say to you? switches last.
Laurie,you said that she was in the
universal?
Yes. So then sorry, then she'syou're moving through the
dimensions, right, which meansyou're connecting to your, your
soul, your higher self. So mostlikely this is what it means
Lynne is that you've been ahealer in many lives. And when
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you go into that zero balancing,you're leaning into those, that
part of you that old, that oldhealing part of you, and it's
coming through. Where when, whenLin isn't acupuncture, it's more
of like, I'm here to serve.
Something that's up, my handsare going up to heaven, up to
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the other side. And it's comingthrough you. Yeah. Is any of
this landing did this land foryou, Lila? Because if it didn't
land for you, it's not gonnaland for anybody listening? No,
totally landed. Yeah. Okay.
I just I'm curious if LynnHolland feels about?
Yeah,yeah, no, I, I know, everything
that you've said to be.
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I'm just validating, like,probably what you like it's
true. Like, I could feel youwere about to explain it from
two different places. Like whenyou're in acupuncture, it's
coming from one way, whenyou're, you're in zero
balancing. That's beautiful, inthat I work similar. So
sometimes I'm with the angels.
Sometimes I want the Christconsciousness. Sometimes I'm
(46:31):
with Melchizedek. And yeah, Ijust kind of like know where I'm
going to get what, who'smale kills? Oh,
we never talked about now kills.
Oh, I just yelled that into themicrophone. So now kill the duck
reigns, the seventh dimension.
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Gen Z is connected strongly toMelchizedek Melchizedek was a
lord. So basically in Quick,quick wording, he is an Ascended
Master, which means he's aleader on on in the dimensions
like on the other side, he leadsseventh dimension. So he can go
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up to higher dimensions and comeback down. So everybody with
third dimension Melchizedek wasa lord that lived pre Christ
walked on Earth and was joyfulwas super happy. People were
drawn to him. And he was sohappy he would give off
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happiness into the room, whetherhe was talking or not talking.
And Jen, a lot of Gen Z has thatMelchizedek energy. And right
now the metaphysical explanationis he controls color on the
other side. So color has avibration, every color has a
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different vibration. And he canalter Earth with the flip of a
switch from color. And we willmost likely walk outside after
this and see a rainbow. Just sojust so if we do we'll write
something somewhere on theInstagram page. And so that's
Melchizedek. It's hope he's veryhopeful. And so a lot of times
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when I'm funny, and we'relaughing, we're connecting to
Melchizedek energy. That sillylike, yeah, oh, I love that.
Yeah, I need love that you'resilly. Yeah, it's true.
So when if someone wasinterested in like zero
balancing, what sort of thing isthat record? Like? What would
somebody presenting with thatyou would recommend that for
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them.
So anyone who has a chronicproblem, so chronic low back
pain, I got chronic shoulderissue. In fact, sometimes when
I'm working with someone withacupuncture, and we're not
really getting anywhere as muchas I thought we would, I'll put
them on the table and I'll, I'lljust pick up their feet and I'll
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say, oh my gosh, okay. Allright. So then I'll do a zero
balancing to clear whatever Ican, and then we can go back to
acupuncture, because they workdifferently. So I think if
you're looking to get rid ofsomething that is rooted deeply,
whether it's a belief system,whether it's an old injury,
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perfect case was I treated thisguy with zero balancing for low
back pain, right? Because that'swhat he needed. And he called me
like, a day after he's like,when my wrist is really killing
me. What what did you do? And Isaid, I don't really remember
really touching your wrist. Butlet's talk about that. He goes,
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Well, you know, it feels justlike when I was in that
motorcycle accident when I was18. And they brought me to Anna
Jakes and they had to set mywrist without anesthesia. It
hurts so Bad, he said, but thenhe said, you know, two days
later after the Zb, I don't havewrist pain anymore. Wow. And I
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thought, okay, so obviously thelow back pain needs to be worked
on. However, we cleared thereally old pain that he totally
forgot about because he livedwith it for so long. Wow, he
just forgot about his wrist. Butthen I love
all of them. I love I couldlisten to you all day with all
these stories.
(50:31):
Yeah. 22 years leave that. I gota lot.
And how the how pain it movesaround the body? Oh, yeah. As
its energy moves.
Yeah. Oh, that's cool. And thebody decides what's going to do?
Yeah, you know, we think we'rein charge. Now your body is in
charge. Totally. Your body is incharge. So whatever releases is
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what your body was willing atthat time to release?
Yes. Yeah. Great. It is. So dowe talk about where they can
find you? Come in, I'm coming tofind you. I'm writing it down.
Where do we find you? Soyou can visit my website, which
is the access clinic.com. Or yougonna call me and you know what?
(51:12):
Text me because if you leave mea long voicemail, I probably am
not going to listen to it tillthe end of the day. But and I
actually don't make phone callswhen I'm at work, because I'm
work. So if you needed to textme or leave me a message, it's
978-407-0204.
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That's great. Thank you so much,Lynn. Oh, interesting.
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Be well
Hi, everyone. I'm Lila and I'm Angel Amy.
And today we're super excited wehave with us, Linda Shane, from
an acupuncturist from the accessclinic.
Some Hi, Lynne. Hello, ladies.
Yeah, I'm so excited to haveLynn here, because I actually
don't know you like, I don'tknow, Lynn Nope. So I have
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pretty much known every guestthat we've had. And I love
strangers. And I love that thereis a stranger in the house.
Pretty excited. So I'm gonna getto know Lynn, as you all of you
start to listen and get to knowher. This is going to be a
really exciting, adventurousjourney. And I do want to say,
(00:45):
I've never tried acupuncture,which is crazy. So we will kind
of learn why as we go. But yeah,I'm just so happy to have you
here. Lynn.
Thank you. I'm really excited tobe here.
And I do know Lynn. So Lynn,tell us a little bit about what
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got you into acupuncture.
What like every important thingin your life, it was totally by
accident.
I love that. I love that. Justso designed and meant to be
exactly likea Kismet injury moment. So I was
working out in a gym and I blewout my knee just it I was in so
much pain. And one of the womenthat I was training with said,
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Oh, I'm going to see myacupuncturist. Why don't you
just come? And I said, allright. And I'm thinking what the
heck's and acupuncture? Sohobbled, you know, from Copley
Square down Huntington forever.
It felt like I think it took usan hour to walk there because I
was hobbling and then up thisfour story brownstone thing and
(01:57):
into these cavernous dark rooms.
And I thought, Oh, my God, whereit like, and three hours later,
I literally walked outcompletely healed. I have chills
from head to toe. Wow. And Ijust thought what in the world?
Did I just experienced? Becausethis is crazy. I was really
injured, and I really washealed. That's amazing. That's
(02:18):
beautiful. Yeah, it was. And sofrom that moment, I just said,
What is this thing calledacupuncture? I know, it's 1000s
of years old. I know, it camefrom China. And so I decided to
do some volunteering work.
Because interestingly, or maybenot. There was a clinic right
below my office where I wasworking. Oh, wow. And the clinic
(02:41):
focused in on working withpeople with HIV and AIDS. And I
thought, well, maybe they needto volunteer. And I went down,
and I volunteered. And Ihonestly, I was so moved by
working with the population andwatching the acupuncturist work
with the population that werejust truly suffering. And I
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thought about and I said, youknow, these are the best three
hours of my week,I'm getting emotional. I'm
getting emotional, because I Ihonestly feel that anyone that
works with a community such asthe HIV that is such, like a
labor of love in coming fromsuch an authentic place within.
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So like, Thank you for yourservice that is so beautiful.
Well, it really changed my life.
I mean, watching such compassionand true relief brought on the
faces of these patients. It wasjust, I thought, you know, I
just want to do this. I'm justquitting my job. I'm gonna go to
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school. And I did. Oh, wow. andI were you in the Pru?
I was right next to thePrudential I can see the
Prudential so yes, welke moment.
I actually take that back. Itwasn't the proof was the Hancock
Tower.
Oh, me too. So I was going toask you because I'm seeing a
high rise. So I was in theHancock. I'll have to get your
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dates to see if you were there.
Well, I was there in the early90s. Okay, mid 90s. And then I
left to go to acupuncture.
So this was not in the 90s Okay,I came on the scene in the late
90s. Okay, I started to work forBoston in the late 90s to for 10
years. Yep. So you 1000sYeah, so I was gone from from
Boston by 96.
(04:29):
So you know that the thatcommute and the whole thing. We
have a lot in common. Oh my god.
Stranger and the wind tunnelbetween St. James St. Clarendon
It was frightening rightliterally you could be blown
away. You could don't follow itthat hairspray girl. Yeah, like
no, it's going it's gettingugly. Yeah. Like if it rained
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and like you're don't even trydon't have no there's no there's
no pointright? So, okay, so you, you
were feeling the love and youwere you were with this
community. So what happensnext? And then I went to
acupuncture school.
(05:11):
So where do you do that? Like,where
do you Well, at the time, NewEngland School of acupuncture
was located in Watertown.
Awesome. And since it's beenabsorbed by the college
pharmacy, New England Collegepharmacy, oh, wow, Mr. Yeah,
it's kind of sad. But anyway, Igraduated in 99. And then I
opened a practice in Amesbury,and I've been in practice ever
(05:34):
since that'samazing. So when you first quit
your job and say, I'm going toacupuncture school, what was the
reaction of the people aroundyou?
Like, what? What's acupuncture?
Yeah, especially in the 90s.
Yeah. And,but I'm that person who just
does what she wants to do.
(05:57):
And I love that about you. Andthat's great.
I just, it was there was no,there was no going back. There
was no going back. That'samazing. Yeah. So I think in
life, you listen to those gutinstincts. Because that's your
inner that's your internalcompass. You know what's right
for you? And then you just walkthat path,
and it felt right to you. Yeah.
Okay. So why part ofacupuncture? Like weird, I want
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to know about like, theconnection? Like, what part of
that modality Do you reallyconnect to from from like,
within you?
That's no one's ever asked thatquestion before. That's a really
good question. So I'm deep Lynn.
Yeah, no, that's really good. Sothe, the energy of the organs is
(06:44):
fascinating to me, okay. So theliver has a certain energy, the
spleen, the heart, the liver,the gallbladder, all your
internal organs have their ownenergies, and their own jobs.
Well, we know that from Westernmedicine, they all have a job.
But in Eastern medicine, theyhave a unique job unto
themselves. And then there's apathway that connects that organ
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throughout the body. So one ofmy favorite stories is, is when
you deal with someone with amissing organ, let's say their
gallbladder,yeah, Ryan's missing girlfriend,
so.
So they'll say, Well, I stillget this pain. And this pain
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shouldn't be here anymore,because I don't have my
gallbladder anymore. I said, butwhen they took up a gallbladder,
they didn't take out thepathway. Oh, wow. So the energy
is still in the pathway.
I just got chills. So that meansthat this woman is speaking the
truth. Telling the left side ofme just got chills. Yeah, they
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don't take out the pathway. No.
So it's an energetic pathway.
And even for an amputee, theydon't take away the energetic
pathway. So they can still thatwhole Phantom. Yes, yes. You
know, amputations they stillfeel the limb. Yeah, it's
because energetically, they theenergy still there. Even though
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it's not part of the limb.
It's just like, when I go intosomeone's house, and they're
say, their dog passes, and I canstill feel the dog present in
the home or a person. So when weenter a room being energetic
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beings, we have energy, and ourenergy is given off into the
room. And when you leave theroom, your energy is still in
the room. So that's when youhear a bunch of spiritualist
say, I need to energy clear myhouse. Yeah, I need to, I need
to say, I need to open a Windowsbecause I want to get it all the
(08:51):
heck out. Right. Yeah. So thatit works for for positive
energies and also works fornegative energies. And so that's
similar to my world. So Iappreciate that. Yeah. And I can
see that connection.
Yeah, I so because your audienceis who they are, I can actually
talk about this sort of stuff.
But so a lot of times peoplewill be lying in a treatment.
(09:15):
And I'll leave the room. Andthen we'll say, but when you
just somehow then you just cameback and you You did this to the
needle. And I know I haven'tactually gone back over again.
that'll explain to them I said,Well, you know, sometimes others
help. something extra needed tohappen. Somebody did so cool. I
(09:41):
think you should tell them.
Well, you know, there's athere's actually a portrait in
my office of my best friend whopassed she we went to
acupuncture school together. SoKate is always in treatment
rooms with me. Kate's movingthose needles, right? She's
like, you know, she wasn't Thebest, the best. Yeah, so Kate
(10:06):
will come in and clean up mymess and, and then we'll agree
that I'm still on this plane andthat she'll be on that plane
helping me out.
That's really cool. So so theycan kind of feel the needles. I
remember. So once I left Boston,I actually went to massage
school. Oh, cool. And I am Igive the worst massage ever.
(10:30):
Right. But again, it was acalling it was a path to take me
into the land of energy. And Iremember being in a polarity
class. And I was the demo personon the table. And my teacher,
she was I felt two hands on myhead. But I could feel her on my
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feet. Right. And so I told herat the end, and she said, Amy,
that was your spirit guide. Andso it's just so beautiful how,
whether you're, you know,intuitive psychic, we all have
innate knowings. And everyonehas the ability to feel these
(11:13):
things. And feel healers aroundus that aren't on this plane.
Right. So neat. Very neat. Whatdo you think of that? Lila? I
love it. Yeah.
I love it. It's so sounds socool. So
when you when when Lin hasworked on you? Yes, yes. Let's
talk a little bit about yourexperience.
So I went to Lynn, I thinkinitially about my digestion
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like my stomach, IBS. So withLynn, I've been to a couple of
different kinds of acupuncture.
I've done community acupuncture,where you kind of sit in a
chair, you're in a group, andthe needles are usually like
from your elbows down your feet.
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And there was always one on thetop of my head. In between your
eyes. I think it's the stressone she wouldn't really tell
us. I usually call that the teakettle point. So it actually
lets the steam out of thetunnel.
But I've also done you knowwhere I've had needles done all
across my back and they putsomething on there.
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Some MoxaYeah, yes, they light that.
Yeah, I don't know what any ofthat is. That was totally
different to it's called. Sopause there for me and everyone
else that does Okay, her MoxaNo. moksa so it's moxibustion.
moxibustion is an herbarredamento For Garrus I believe
Artemesia vulgaris, and it is,it treats pain. It's very
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moving. We use it to actuallyturn breech babies. Oh, yeah,
chill. So it brings the heatdown through the needle and into
into the structure of the bodyso that you get a nice deep heat
treatment. And yeah, it's it's agreat are.
Okay, that's great. Okay, keepgoing. I'm sorry. No. So
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learning as I go,I mean, these were the just the
different ways that I've had itdone. lenses. A lot of it was
because my knees down. And mystomach.
Yeah. Yeah. So I practice moreof a traditional Chinese
medicine style. And Iincorporate Chinese herbs. With
my treatment for some people,some people just want herbs,
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some people will do both. Somepeople just want acupuncture.
But some people do zerobalancing, especially if the
acupuncture is not moving. Inthe in the way that I think it
could, then we work a little bitdifferently.
So what are the different typesof acupuncture? Because you
mentioned Do you practiceChinese? Are there others?
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Yeah, I also do a non insertion,Japanese style of acupuncture
where the needle doesn'tactually go in the body. It's
called toI Hari. And that is forpeople who are either very young
and they're needle phobic, orpeople that are needle phobic
just to begin with. But also forpeople's energies, who are their
energy travels verysuperficially. So their energy
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is very easily influenced. Soyou don't even actually need to
insert the needle in order toaffect the same change.
So what do you do with theneedle?
It looks very like looks likepoetry. It's kind of cool. So I
have so many questions we'll usewe'll use the same points. But
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that we I'll use a gold needle.
In fact, I was using a goldneedle a lot with my equine
clients. Where I would, becausehorses energy is just, I mean,
they can sense Madrigal. Yeah,they sent you from many yards
away. And you can So I when Itreat horses, I actually don't
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use insertion, I just use a noninsertion style of acupuncture.
And that's really cool. So forthe very energetically
sensitive, I don't insertneedle, because I don't need to.
Oh, I love this. So cool.
Japanese is a non essentialneedle technique.
Well, Japanese is a very shallowinsertion or a non insertion.
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Okay. And then Chinese isinsertion. Yeah. Is there a
third one?
Well, then there's differentmodalities where you just use
the ear. Oh, or just the hand inKorean. I don't have any
training Korean handacupuncture, but certainly the
auricular Yes, I did some workwith them working in a drug and
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alcohol detox center, where Itreated patients going through
detox. Mostly doing earacupuncture. Oh, wow. But also
somebody acupuncture.
So in. I don't know if you knowthis Lin, EFT, practitioner
tapping love tapping me toemotional freedom technique. And
there are acupressure points onthe air air. And I bet it's
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similar.
Well, yeah, all of the EFTpoints or acupuncture points.
Yes. Yeah.
So this is actually I have tojust tell this quick little
story. But um, when I first metAmy, I had been going to
acupuncture, and the acupuncturesaid I was going to was moving.
So she was leaving. And then Amyand I were at a school function
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like a party and the kid. And Ihad said, like, Oh, something
about acupuncture. And Amy said,oh, you should try tapping
because it works along the samemeridian. Exactly. Acupuncture.
Yep. And that was I was like,Oh, I'm in
school. So the truth goes likethis is that Lila and I were
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talking in a group of otherwomen. And when I started to
lean into talking about energy,and how it connects back to the
emotions, they it was like, thesea parted. Like they
immediately got up and movedaway.
Right? I tapping away. Yeah.
And this is a lesson foreveryone. You when in situations
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like that, you just you dropright into your authentic place
within, and you hold yourselfand you stick with the
conversation. And you focus onyour intention, and not
everybody and everyone else'sreaction. Because let's talk
about what happened to you afteryou started talking. I'm
tapping. I loved it. Right.
Yeah. And back got back up. Itwas much better. He said the
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recipe everybody. Yeah, she didsee, she tapped in. You had an
awesome chiropractor at the timein in acupuncture. Yep. And
yeah, so it was a it was, I wasI stuck with it with Lila,
because I could feel that apiece of her recipe was the
emotional connection. Wherethere needed to be a little
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emotional healing, which that'swhat tapping offers. Yeah,
right. Yeah. Now, that leads meto Lynn, to kind of explain why
I've never done an acupunctureis because I haven't found a
practitioner that can linkeverything together with the
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emotional component. So I'm veryrooted in having natural
abilities to kind of know, whensomeone has a problem, whether
it's physical, mental,emotional, spiritual, I can see
the root of it. So naturally, Iwould need to I would need to
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find another healer, that wasable to get to the root of it as
well, in order for me to benefitfrom it.
Yeah. So how I explain who I amto people, is that I'm an
advocate for the body. So weare, you know, we're up in our
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sort of heads a lot. We're inour spiritual brain, we're in
our emotional brain, but thatthe body tends to be, I don't
know, maybe taken for granted,maybe ignored, maybe not paid
attention to enough maybe notcared for enough. And my job is
to listen to the body, and thenconvey that information back to
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you. And then you Oh, oh, geez,maybe, maybe I do need to sleep
more than four hours. Or, maybeI could stop lifting this in
this particular way. BecauseI'll say you know, your body
doesn't really like it.
Or not eat two Oreos before yougo to bed. Because that was me
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last night when I roll railhere. Yeah.
So So yeah, choice. Oh, But attimes, we just, you know, we're
so interested, and those otherrealms that we kind of forget
about this plane and this vesselthat we have to walk around in.
Yep, yes. And then we do load itup too much. You know, like, I'm
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guilty. I, when my boys aren'treally ready to help me lift all
that hay and stack that, hey, Ijust do it myself. And then my
back hurts. And I say, Well, whyis my bad hurting? Yeah, because
you lifted the hay by yourselfand you take the time to have a
good conversation about guys.
Can you just maybe help me?
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Because I really shouldn't dothis by myself.
Right. So now she's talkingabout Lila tuning in to what she
needs. Yes.
Well, what I was gonna say wasthat, you know, through like,
endurance training andeverything like it people will
tell you like, what are some ofthe slogans right? Shut up leg,
like, ignore your body, like,literally are trained to ignore
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pain. It's happening. Right.
So and your pain? Your body hastwo ways of communicating pain
and dysfunction. Yeah, correct.
So if you don't pay attention,it's just gonna get louder.
Right, right. Yeah. So itstarted out with just tiny
little pain and thatoccasionally, and then you go on
and you ignore it, and then youjust push through it, just push
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through that pain. And then itgets louder. And then it's like,
Well, she didn't pay attentionto the low back pain. What if I
took out her hip?
Right, so so. So this is babyboomer and Gen X, right? And
some millennial energy, and thenit started, when we get into
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Gen, my favorite Gen Z, six to24. In the little app, baby
alphas, they're in tune withwhat we're talking about. Like
they know I need to stop, I canremember I most you know, I have
a 14 year old. And when she waslittle, she would be on a
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playdate. And she would be shewould remove herself. And the
little like the little childwould say, we had Julie ago, and
I'd say she's just gonna goupstairs for a few minutes, and
then she'll rejoin you. Shewould actually remove herself,
and then rejoin smart. And itshe's still like that. And it's
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just something that they'reteaching us. Yeah.
If we're listening if, if, if wechoose to listen, right? Because
because we go, go, go go rightuntil we're completely
overwhelmed. And then I couldstart to lean into how then most
of us start to numb the pain,whether it's to Oreos on the
couch, or a bottle of vodka,right? We could just go on and
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on. Right? So you're on themoney when you're onto
something.
So I just wanted to say reallyquickly that I think it's
important that the needles don'thurt, right? So anyone who's
afraid of needles like that toeverybody says like, Is it
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painful? No, it's it's not.
It's,I absolutely love the phone
calls will someone will say, Allright, you know what, I've been
putting this off, you're my lasthope. And I'm even willing to
try acupuncture. And I said, Oh,my gosh, you're so lucky.
Because you're not even going tofeel the needles, you're going
to feel like, did I just have amassage? But no one touched me.
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Yeah, I would agree withtotally.
I needed to hear that because Idon't love needles. No, I, I
don't really love physical pain.
But who does? I mean, somepeople can push when we talk
about like being at the gym, andlike push through that feeling a
lot more than others, but Idefinitely have not picked
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acupuncture over the needles. SoI'm glad you said that. There's
you don't bring it in, right?
That's why you know, yes.
Well, the reason that they don'thurt is because when you're when
you go to the doctor and you getan injection, well, they are
injecting something. So thatneedle has to have multiple
points of insertion because it'sa hollow piece of metal, right?
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an acupuncture needle is reallylike a pin. So it's solid, okay,
with a single point ofinsertion. So if you've ever
plucked an eyebrow, it's noteven gonna be half of that.
Okay, that's hopeful. Yeah. Ilike that. It's all right. And
then you so then Lynn comes in,she puts the needles we'll talk
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about where she decides to putthem but the needles and then
you like snoozy and they're,like heat on you and there's
wonderful like ocean sounds.
It's like you're out.
Yeah, most people do actuallyfall asleep.
How long is an average session?
You're probably On the table agood 4550 minutes. Okay. Yeah.
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And is this covered by anyinsurance yet?
Yeah, actually many, many PPOplans will have acupuncture as a
benefit.
I have a feeling mine does.
I take advantage? Yeah.
I have a feeling mind does Iactually take people's What's it
H F O to set the health savings?
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Yes. Yes.
For tapping? Yeah. In that goesthrough, which is really
exciting. So it's it's neat tosee that insurance is starting
to recognize this aspreventative care. Yeah, too.
Yeah. Yeah. Are there differentsize needles?
There are so depending uponwhere the issue is. So
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obviously, when I do facialacupuncture for like things
like, why don't like mywrinkles, they're really tiny,
short, tiny needles. And forpeople who have even know that
was an option, wait a minute whyam I not getting? Because you
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don't have any wrinkles. Butthen there are longer needles
for areas of the body, likegoing into the buttocks. So you
know that deep piriformismuscle? Yeah, you know, you go
in there. So you know, we mightbe going in a good inch or two.
Yeah, not on the trunk of thetruck.
So does that make a difference?
Like what youknow, you won't feel it anymore?
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Okay. Yeah. Because really, thethe nerve endings are right
below the surface of the skin.
So you could go in as deep asyou need, and you're not going
to feel it.
When you can, can we now leaninto Lila? Can we lean into a
little bit about like, how shedecides like where it's okay. So
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so when you someone comes toyou? I'm sure there is a few
minutes of like, what do youhave going on? Yeah. What do you
want to work on? I'm surethere's
a quest exactly what I say. Whatdo you want to work? Yeah. And
then they'll say what they wantto work on. Okay. And I keep
that in the back of my mind. Andthen they lie down. And then I
feel their pulses, because theirpulses, ultimately tell me what
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I need to work.
Hold there. So pulse is likeyour heartbeat pulse.
Yep. So your wrist pulse. Soeveryone has representation in
their pulses of all the internalorgans that we've got. Okay, so
on the right side, we call thatyour chi side or your energy
side. And that's the spleen inthe stomach. It's the kidney
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pulses, the lungs in the largeintestine, the left liver,
gallbladder heart. So you canpretty much access any pulse
that you need by going to aspecific side of the body.
I've learned something new.
That's really neat. So thattells you now what's highest and
best right to work on. Right? Sothey may say, Oh, I'm having
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digestive problems. Yes. Andthen I'll feel the pulses. And
I'll say I was a little excessin the stomach. I feel that
there's a little deficiencygoing on in the liver. I feel
that so then I choose liverpoints, stomach points on the
body to affect treatment. Andthen while someone's lying on
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the table, I can check in withthe pulses and say, oh, yeah,
no, it's feeling better. Thingsare moving in the right
direction.
Are you checking pulse with yourhands? Yeah. With my fingers.
Okay. Yeah. Awesome. And then,so then that tells you kind of
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where to go. Have you had anyonethat starts to have an emotional
release? While they're layingthere?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure.
And I always let people knowthat. It's energy. Absolutely.
And it's moving. And it's okay.
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So I would look at them and backyou up and say in this release,
right now, it's going to changeyour life. Yes, that's when the
magic starts to happen.
Yeah, right. For sure. I've seenI mean, I can't talk about
stories because they'repersonal, right. But I have seen
absolutely transformativemoments with someone on the
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acupuncture tale. It's reallyhumbling right
and let's talk about your own.
So when your knee was healed,yeah, at at on some level, there
was an emotional, spiritual,energetic shift, because by the
time it gets into the physical,it has now gone through Oh,
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yeah, all those moving parts,right?
Yeah, knees, you know, in some,in some realms knees are all
about transition. They are howwell do we transition from one.
And I knew I needed to make achange professionally what I was
doing, and that it was time forme, but I didn't know where I
was, what was going to happen?
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So look at that you the thingthat healed you ended up being
or the thing that offered youhealing I should say right ended
up being the path. Yeah. So seeeverybody how it finds you
totally finds you I almost wantto say just stop looking. Like
just stop looking. And just beand be open and it will find
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you. Yeah, be receptive and willbe receptive. Yeah. To your
highest and greater good, right.
Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Yeah.
So then tell us a little bitabout the herbs. So those work.
They're complementary toacupuncture?
Yeah. So, you know, in China,not a lot of acupuncture is
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practiced. Really? Yeah. Lookat. In fact, I had a Chinese
woman come to me from China. Andshe said, What's acupuncture?
And I said, Oh, really? It'sfrom your culture? Wow. Yeah.
Because their medicine isherbal. Their original medicine
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is herbal medicine.
Well, and I had understood thatin Chinese or in China, when
they practice acupuncture, it'smuch more of a community style
as woman said to me, like,you're just gonna sit in a
chair. Yeah, it's gonna be noteven quiet, like people are
gonna be talking or whatever.
And you're gonna sit there,right. So when I first went into
practice, I said, you know, I'mgoing to practice authentically,
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I'm just going to open a shop,say, Come on in. And, and I did,
and people just came on it. Andso I practiced, and then I
started the first communityacupuncture clinic in probably
Massachusetts. That's awesome.
And I started it back in theearly 2000s. And I took no
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appointments. And I just said,Come on in. And if they needed
herbs, I went into my pharmacyput together herbs, I put people
in chairs, I put people ontables. I didn't just treat from
the knees and the elbows down.
If you had sciatica, I threw ona table and I said, you're gonna
need to wait 25 minutes, and I'mworking over here. And I was
like, That person spinning the12 plates. Yeah. And just, and
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then 10 years later, I said, Ithink I'm tired. I'm just gonna
take appointments now. So yeah,the hard part was when I had to
put together herbal stuff. Atthe same time as then I gotta go
change needles, and thank Godfor my dog, my dog would come to
clinic. Marie, everyone lovedMarie. And Marie would be the
greeter he'd everyone would comein, and Marie would be sweet
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Mary, and then he check onpeople. And then he'd come find
me and look at me with thattilting his head like, she's
been on the table like an hour.
You got people waiting. Oh,okay. All right. And then I go,
I love that change thingsaround. Marie was the real boss,
Marie Moran the clutter? Yeah.
Everyone loved Marie. So, soyes, I have larger pharmacy. And
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then when people are willing todrink the stinky tea, because it
doesn't taste good, unless youneed it. Now. That's the beauty
of herbs. So if you really needthese herbs, and they're really
resonant with your condition,somehow, in a crazy way, you
really enjoy the taste.
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Are you hearing this Andy?
That's my husband, becausethere'll be a tea and then he'll
say, I can't drink that everagain. And I'll say, I'll look.
And it's like the one he needsthe one he just connected it.
Yeah, I'll just put words Yeah,in my interest. But
if Andy kept drinking it, itwould he'd get he would actually
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start saying, dude, are yougoing to get more of that tea
for me? Because I think aboutWow, that's fascinating and is
fast. Yeah.
Is it all teas?
Hills? Yeah, no, there are pillsdo your best. But the true
authentic experiences that youknow, is you take the raw or so
there's a wonderful practitionerBJ way down in Austin. What's
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the best experience? You don'tmake an appointment, you
literally walk into hisstorefront and he's got just
beautiful herbs everywhere thatsmells amazing. Wonderful child
Chinese practitioner. He'll feelyour pulse doesn't talk very
much to you. And then we'llwrite out in characters what
your formula is. And then hisassistants will put it together
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for you. Oh, wow.
Let's go. Very cool. That'sreally cool. Yeah, it's very
cool. So my My parents are bothstill alive and my mom is going
to be 71 on Sunday. You And shehas been into herbs my entire
life, like back when no onetalked about doing our biology.
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And so I grew up around herbs.
And still to this day I preferhealing through herbs as my
number one go to. And so that'skind of like a needed me and I
just like, I feel like I neededto give her a little plug.
Because, yeah, Paula was veryhip in the 70s and 80s Whenever
I thought she was a freak show,ya know?
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She's She's cool.
Yeah. So she she definitelyleaned into that in till this
day. She takes no meds. Zero.
Yeah. So and I think it's herher her health and her eating in
her herb ology. Yeah,she's in balance. Yes, right.
She is now she lost 100 poundsduring COVID Oh my Wow. Yeah,
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she did when 2020 struck rightbefore. She was like, I'm either
gonna get, you know, sicker anddie, or I'm gonna get healthy.
And she got she did. She changedher eating habits. She's very
inspiring.
That is amazing. Good for her. Imean, she she took that lesson
of this experience. Right?
She did. Yeah. Let's talk alittle bit about the zero
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balancing that you do, becauseLila told me about it. Before I
met you. And I was like, thatreally? Like resonates for me.
And so let's just tell peoplelike what it is and we can hear
about Lila is experience andyeah,
so zero balancing is is a is ait's a bodywork that was devised
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by Dr. Fritz Smith, and he's inhis 90s now living out in
California, and he still teachesand he has zero balancing
Association and where you canget certified and all that kind
of thing. And most people gointo zero balancing are people
that are body workers, somephysical therapists, some
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acupuncturists, chiropractors,pts. So it's it's a marriage of
all of his training as anosteopathic doctor. So he's done
Rolfing he's done cranialsacral. He's obviously an
osteopath, chiropractic. I thinkhe even studied acupuncture. So
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he took all of his theories anddevised this system called zero
balancing. Cool. And the idea isthat true to his osteopathic
background, that energy isreally stored at the bone level.
So when you experience a trauma,it's sort of surface right? And
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then it goes through your softtissue, connective tissue, and
then we'll wind up basicallyimprinting itself into your
bone. And of course, we know ourour cells are coming from our
bone or bone marrow. So I thinkthat's how we're able to
constantly lay down patterns ofdisorder, or bad memory or bad
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trauma. And it becomes imprintedin us that that's who we kind of
are. Right? So what zerobouncing does, in my experience,
is that it on Earth, thoseimprinted codes, if you will,
yeah, those traumas, we talkedabout this Lila, yeah. And
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surfaces so that you can releaseit. So your zero balancer
practitioners, number one goalis to allow you to release what
needs to be released. Sometimeswe go in thinking one thing that
we want to release, and anothertime, something completely
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different releases, and I justexplained that that's what was
the priority.
And so you again, if I came andI talked about, like, kind of
what I'm working, what I want towork on, or what I'm working on
personally, you would be able toknow where to go on the body to
achieve a release.
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So there is a format that we allfollow as a zero balancing
practitioner, okay, sort of aformula. So we start at A to Z,
and you follow these things.
However, probably mostpractitioners will spend more or
less time on one particular areaof the body because they're not
necessarily drawn to that area.
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And therefore they put theirfocus on what's calling them.
Okay, beautiful. Yeah, what wasyour experience Lila? I loved
it.
So I mean, for me, it was Idefinitely felt like the
manipulation of the joints likefor me in your your hip, like if
you pull on my leg, pulling thatout pulling like my neck, like
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gently pulling. Yeah. Verygently pulling, but, you know,
my neck out and stuff that wasgreat. I was like, I was so
relaxed when I was done wasamazing felt
like release. Oh, yeah. So mytrainer, my personal trainer,
usually once a week he'll, he'llstretch me out. And I really try
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to tune in and see what I'mwilling to let go of while he's
doing it. So that's just asuggestion for people that
stretch at home. You know,seeing Lynn would be amazing.
But if you're not able to dothat, or can afford that you
could do some stretches at homeand start to tune in to, I
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guess, listening to the tensionand listening to the pain. And
just bringing yourself to apoint of maybe discomfort, not
not pain, pain. If you feelpain, we want to get out of it.
Right? But really takingyourself to a point of
discomfort in using the breathand breathing through it. Did
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you breathe at all I love whileshe was doing it.
I'm sure I breathe. Okay.
What's interesting is that weactually follow people's
breaths. So their eyes areclosed.
I'm saying this then for thatknow about that we so we follow
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people's breath.
So we can sense when the energyis almost like a wave. Right?
Yeah. So we can feel the energyand then what will happen is, is
the person will go okay, so thatdid that. Okay, now I can move
on.
And then when like someone likeme when like, I kind of stopped
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breathing, just like stuckenergy, right? Yeah. Oh, this
Amy needs a little love there.
She's a little assistancereleasing something from this
area.
Or just reorganizing it? Not wedon't always need to release.
But sometimes we need to reorgreorganize it.
Okay, good. Oh, that's good.
Yeah. Now, I am kind of puttingyou on the spot here at the end
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of this little podcast, but Ifeel like you can see like in
your third eye. So sometimeswhen you work on certain people,
are you able to see things?
Yeah. So not with acupuncture.
Okay. It it's like I'm adifferent person, when I'm, when
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I'm when I'm when I when I'm anacupuncturist. I'm performing my
role as a diagnostic, Titian andthen someone who does the
treatment, but with zerobalancing a whole lot of stuff.
You can like, see and feel andknow.
Yeah, I see.
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A lot. I feel like you maychannel with acupuncture. Some
some. I honestly feel it'sdifferent than universal energy.
That's kind of like a broadform, when people don't really
know who they're connecting to.
But you you have some sourcethat you're connecting to.
That's directing you through theacupuncture, like Yeah, I feel
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that.
Yeah, sometimes. I'll have theintention that I'm going to do
X, Y, and Z. And then I lookstand back and I go, Oh, I did.
C, D and E.
Something else takes over.
So yeah, I have an intention forthe for the treatment, but I
don't always actually end updoing that.
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Right. I love that. So somethingelse is leading it. Yeah. And
then when you were in do zerobalancing. Do you feel like it's
a higher self connection? Like,is it coming from like, like,
inside of you, like a knowingit's a it's like a conversation
in my head almost. Okay. Sosometimes people show up. Pets
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show up. Okay. Past life stuffshows up.
So that's okay. So that this isthe difference. Lila she's
traveling through thedimensions. So in the first
she's doing this, yes. So I'mgoing to back up the bus. So in
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Accu puncture, Lin is channelingin a healer or a collective
consciousness that's that isconnected to healing. And then
when you're in zero balancing,it is more of like, what did I
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just say to you? switches last.
Laurie,you said that she was in the
universal?
Yes. So then sorry, then she'syou're moving through the
dimensions, right, which meansyou're connecting to your, your
soul, your higher self. So mostlikely this is what it means
Lynne is that you've been ahealer in many lives. And when
(45:22):
you go into that zero balancing,you're leaning into those, that
part of you that old, that oldhealing part of you, and it's
coming through. Where when, whenLin isn't acupuncture, it's more
of like, I'm here to serve.
Something that's up, my handsare going up to heaven, up to
(45:45):
the other side. And it's comingthrough you. Yeah. Is any of
this landing did this land foryou, Lila? Because if it didn't
land for you, it's not gonnaland for anybody listening? No,
totally landed. Yeah. Okay.
I just I'm curious if LynnHolland feels about?
Yeah,yeah, no, I, I know, everything
that you've said to be.
(46:08):
I'm just validating, like,probably what you like it's
true. Like, I could feel youwere about to explain it from
two different places. Like whenyou're in acupuncture, it's
coming from one way, whenyou're, you're in zero
balancing. That's beautiful, inthat I work similar. So
sometimes I'm with the angels.
Sometimes I want the Christconsciousness. Sometimes I'm
(46:31):
with Melchizedek. And yeah, Ijust kind of like know where I'm
going to get what, who'smale kills? Oh,
we never talked about now kills.
Oh, I just yelled that into themicrophone. So now kill the duck
reigns, the seventh dimension.
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Gen Z is connected strongly toMelchizedek Melchizedek was a
lord. So basically in Quick,quick wording, he is an Ascended
Master, which means he's aleader on on in the dimensions
like on the other side, he leadsseventh dimension. So he can go
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up to higher dimensions and comeback down. So everybody with
third dimension Melchizedek wasa lord that lived pre Christ
walked on Earth and was joyfulwas super happy. People were
drawn to him. And he was sohappy he would give off
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happiness into the room, whetherhe was talking or not talking.
And Jen, a lot of Gen Z has thatMelchizedek energy. And right
now the metaphysical explanationis he controls color on the
other side. So color has avibration, every color has a
(47:54):
different vibration. And he canalter Earth with the flip of a
switch from color. And we willmost likely walk outside after
this and see a rainbow. Just sojust so if we do we'll write
something somewhere on theInstagram page. And so that's
Melchizedek. It's hope he's veryhopeful. And so a lot of times
(48:19):
when I'm funny, and we'relaughing, we're connecting to
Melchizedek energy. That sillylike, yeah, oh, I love that.
Yeah, I need love that you'resilly. Yeah, it's true.
So when if someone wasinterested in like zero
balancing, what sort of thing isthat record? Like? What would
somebody presenting with thatyou would recommend that for
(48:41):
them.
So anyone who has a chronicproblem, so chronic low back
pain, I got chronic shoulderissue. In fact, sometimes when
I'm working with someone withacupuncture, and we're not
really getting anywhere as muchas I thought we would, I'll put
them on the table and I'll, I'lljust pick up their feet and I'll
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say, oh my gosh, okay. Allright. So then I'll do a zero
balancing to clear whatever Ican, and then we can go back to
acupuncture, because they workdifferently. So I think if
you're looking to get rid ofsomething that is rooted deeply,
whether it's a belief system,whether it's an old injury,
(49:25):
perfect case was I treated thisguy with zero balancing for low
back pain, right? Because that'swhat he needed. And he called me
like, a day after he's like,when my wrist is really killing
me. What what did you do? And Isaid, I don't really remember
really touching your wrist. Butlet's talk about that. He goes,
(49:47):
Well, you know, it feels justlike when I was in that
motorcycle accident when I was18. And they brought me to Anna
Jakes and they had to set mywrist without anesthesia. It
hurts so Bad, he said, but thenhe said, you know, two days
later after the Zb, I don't havewrist pain anymore. Wow. And I
(50:10):
thought, okay, so obviously thelow back pain needs to be worked
on. However, we cleared thereally old pain that he totally
forgot about because he livedwith it for so long. Wow, he
just forgot about his wrist. Butthen I love
all of them. I love I couldlisten to you all day with all
these stories.
(50:31):
Yeah. 22 years leave that. I gota lot.
And how the how pain it movesaround the body? Oh, yeah. As
its energy moves.
Yeah. Oh, that's cool. And thebody decides what's going to do?
Yeah, you know, we think we'rein charge. Now your body is in
charge. Totally. Your body is incharge. So whatever releases is
(50:52):
what your body was willing atthat time to release?
Yes. Yeah. Great. It is. So dowe talk about where they can
find you? Come in, I'm coming tofind you. I'm writing it down.
Where do we find you? Soyou can visit my website, which
is the access clinic.com. Or yougonna call me and you know what?
(51:12):
Text me because if you leave mea long voicemail, I probably am
not going to listen to it tillthe end of the day. But and I
actually don't make phone callswhen I'm at work, because I'm
work. So if you needed to textme or leave me a message, it's
978-407-0204.
(51:36):
That's great. Thank you so much,Lynn. Oh, interesting.
Now this was fun.
Super, super amazing. Super. Sothank you so much for coming.
Thank you for inviting me in.
We hope that you all found thisreally enlightening. And we want
to make sure that you'resubscribing to our podcasts.
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comments, please message usthere. And thank you very much
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(52:45):
Be well
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