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Hey, everybody, it's Angel, Amy.
And hi, everyone.
It's Lila.
So today we are going to diveright in. Because we have a lot
of content in this episode. Andtoday, I'd love to introduce
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Miss Vita. And VITA is going todiscuss her very unique reverse
kundalini awakening. So welcome,Vita.
Thank you so much, Amy. Thankyou, Lila for having me today.
Absolutely. So first, let'sbegin with Vita and I are going
to explain to Lila what this bigword Kundalini means. So to the
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average person, or most of youlistening to this, you may not,
that may not be a common wordthat you've heard before. Some
of you may know. So it is aHindu word. And it's a form of
the divine feminine energy thatis located in the base of the
spine. So there's actually twocoils at the base of the spine,
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and one is feminine, and one ismasculine. And as you move
through life, as a soul, havinga human experience, the
Kundalini gracefully, in mostcases starts to rise in starts
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to heighten and when it gets toa certain point it you have an
awakening, right vida?
Yes, I mean, it takes a longtime to basically reach,
basically enlightenment. So youknow, enlightenment is, you
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know, more like Jesus and all ofthose beautiful characters that
we've heard aboutwhen you know, the character
that love that when you knowthings and you feel things, and
you have abilities outside ofthe human human senses, correct?
Yeah. And so when this Kundalinistarts to rise, it starts to
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move through what's known as thechakra system. And there are
seven chakras in the energybody. And so yeah, so Vita went
through an experience thatcaused a reverse kundalini
awakening.
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And so Vita, what is the reversepart of it.
So the reverse part of it isthat basically when somebody is
slowly getting closer to theirown self, there's a process that
happens that the Kundalini risesand each chakra that things that
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we need to learn aboutourselves, and they'd be maybe
situations that bring you closerto yourself. And it slowly
rises, and this goes foreverybody. And there's no one in
particular, there's no specialperson,
and you're consciously workingon that. You're trying to get
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the Kundalini to rise.
Well, I mean, some people areawake, and some people are
asleep. And that's the way Ititle. I shouldn't say title
people, but where I get a goodfeel of somebody who I'm getting
to know or understand theprocess of. So it's a slow
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process that happens throughoutyour lifetime. Okay. But the
reverse can happen.
And what is that? So tell mewhat, what happens in the
reverse kundalini awakening?
Well, I mean, there are a lot ofpeople, you know, through
Hinduism or Yogi's orspiritualist socialists, yeah,
that want to be enlightenedquicker than they think. Okay.
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So there's this pressure of, youknow, I want to be enlightened I
want to be, you have to reallygo through the work, per se, to
get to that point. And in thereverse of it. This Kundalini
can shoot Write up through thechakra system and come back
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down, where you're forced to dothe work. And,
and that's what you whathappened for you. Yes.
So let me explain to everybodywhat the work is. So what
happens is when someone wants toenhance or raise their
Kundalini, they first feel thisdeep desire to know things or,
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or learn things about beinghuman in relation to the the
energetic body. And so we liveour lives as humans, and then a
person would start to maybe haveproblems or themes and patterns
in their life, or feel reallystressed out or have triggers
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like anger or sadness, orwhatever the emotion may be. And
a person might say, hmm, I don'treally want to feel like this
anymore, or I don't want to havethis pain in my physical body
anymore. And so what they do is,they would seek some kind of
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emotional, physical, energeticrelease. And then what happens
in turn, is there there. When wedo these things like maybe Reiki
or emotional freedom technique,which is tapping, or it or
meditation, it begins toactually release energies or
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emotions from the chakras. Andwhen the energy is released from
the chakras, then the Kundalinigracefully starts to heighten
and then you become MotherTeresa. Yes. And so I just
wanted us here because hersdidn't happen gracefully. Like,
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it didn't, it basically beat us,he had to tell you it shot up,
and then it shot back down. Andwhen it shot back down, Vito
went through something calleddark night of the soul. And
we're going to talk about that,but I may as well just give the
definition while I'm here. Yeah.
Okay. So dark night of the soulis when you're a human. And
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you're living life and you feellike you have more negative
people's in situations or themesand patterns in your life. Or
you feel like you have a darkcloud over your head. Or you're
depressed, anxious, paranoid.
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everyone's out to get you thisis all happening to me. My life
sucks. And I basically don'twant to be here anymore. Is dark
night of the soul. So we aregoing to learn about what it
felt like when Vita for before.
Let's start with beforekundalini awakening, tell us a
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little bit of how you will livein your life and what you felt
like Yeah,yeah, I mean, I was living life
and you know, the whole nineyards, married, you have kids,
you have the white picket fence,and you're working, and you're
just trying to balance all ofit. And everything seemed to be
fine.
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So do you didn't realize likethat you were unhappy or that?
No, no, I just was going throughthe motion. And, you know,
trying to make ends meet andjuggle all the balls that we all
have to deal with. Right? I useon a daily basis, spiritual veto
or religious? No, I'm, you know,I have a Catholic background.
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Was I a person that went tochurch every week? No. Did I
have faith? Yes. Did I believein God? Yes. But I didn't
practice it. You know, it wasjust like, I know that there's
something higher than us. And Ihave no idea what that is. So I
just, you know, just wentthrough life.
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And so then what startedhappening?
So at one point, I, you know, asI said, we're here juggling
life, and we're living in thewhite picket fence, and we're
working and we're raisingchildren. And, you know, I ended
up I remember one dayspecifically, and this was what
sticks into my mind is, youknow, here I am, I just had, you
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know, graduated, massage school,and I got myself a job and, you
know, I was coming home and Iremember I had groceries in my
hand walking up the stairsafter, you know, working and
doing five, six massages thatday. And I stopped in the middle
of a staircase and I said, Thisis it.
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This is it. Like this is it forme, right?
Like, okay, I did what I wassupposed to do. You know, I'm
married. I'm happily married. Ilove my husband. I have two
beautiful kids and we're doingwe're just doing doing and I
said, is that it? Like, there'sgotta be more to life than us.
Yeah.
So in that moment, Vita, yoursoul had an energetic calling,
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there was a recipe in theatmosphere that called your
soul. And when your soul feltcalled, it ignited the Divine
Feminine inside of you in thatbase chakra, which is the
Kundalini. That was the firststart. So you were starting to
feel something. So what happenednext?
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So I didn't obviously didn'tknow the spiritual world as I
do. Now,the feeling of you know, is this
all there? Is? Did you feel likeyou had to act on that? Or did
it just kind of go by you? Like,is this all there is? Or did it
like nag at the back of yourmind? Like,
it did not get the back of mymind? So because you knew there
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was something more I knew therewas something more? Yeah, you
know, there there. You know, wetend to just go with the flow
and do what we have to do. Butdeep down inside, I knew that
there was more to life than justthat. Yep. And I didn't know
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anything about it. I was justcompletely lost. I was just this
last little lamb, right? Youknow, trying to figure it all
out. Right.
So that uneasiness that youknow, like, but the universe had
a whole different plants.
Right. So you do there wassomething? Is this what you're
saying? You knew there wassomething but you didn't know
what to do? No. And you didn'tknow what it was?
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No. Okay, zero. It was just afeeling. And it wouldn't leave
you alone. No. No.
Because I always find that sointeresting, right? Because you
always just try to ignore thatlike, oh, no, that's not really
happening. Like, yeah,everything's great. Right.
Exactly. I mean, just push thatback down.
Right. Good. Impose painful do.
Yeah, absolutely.
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So then, so then tell us more.
So then what happened? So you'rewith this feeling? It's, it's
poking at the back of your mind?
Is there more,but I left it at that. Okay. I
questioned it. Yeah. But Ididn't understand any of it.
Yeah. And I just, I left it mysecond. I don't know, you know,
fine. Oh, actually, this is howit all began. My mother in law
passed away in January of 2010.
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And it was a major loss for allof us. Yeah. Amazing woman, God
rest her soul. You know, goingthrough the grieving process, I
ended up with a pneumonia overthat same summer, and in bed for
three months. Not knowing thatthat was actually grief that I
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was holding on to and then, youknow, things started to unfold.
I had to go back to work and tryto get myself moving again.
Because as we were spoke of is Igotta get to work. You know,
we're raising a family here.
Let's get moving. And I wasstill weak. And I and one of my
colleagues at the time shelooked at me and said, I think
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you need a massage. And I said Ithink I do too.
So for those that don't know vthat is a massage therapist. So
at this time Vida you werepracticing as massage
therapists, yes, touchingbodies, but you had taken time
off. And now you know, I can'twait. You just said that the
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grief manifested itself at thatat that time as pneumonia? Yes,
it did. Yeah,it was it was a bad one. Yeah, I
think I should have beenhospitalized at that point.
Because with the pneumonia Yeah,three rounds of different
antibiotics. I still nothing. Soyeah, it was it was difficult.
It was difficult, but I gotthrough it.
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Yeah. And I think I mean, it'sit Amy I'm sure you you know
obviously with grief. You see alot of people but it a lot of
people do get sick right duringthat time period, like
physically, like cold. Yeah,sort of thing like when they're
in that grief.
Yes. And a lot of people thinkit's because it weakens the
immune system. And that may betrue. But from an energetic
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lens. Grief is a low vibration,which we all need to grieve when
the time is right. That's a veryhuman healthy thing to do and a
healthy thing to release. Itlike comes knocking on your
door. Like you're not releasingme, you're not the grief, you're
not releasing the grief. So I'mgoing to help you push you right
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along. Right. And so it was thepneumonia was saying Vita you
got a lot of gunk to release andyou're not listening.
Yeah, and I'm gonna slow youdown enough. Yeah, you start to
like maybe you'll see me right.
But veto power. Through Ipowered through because
that's what neither does.
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completely determined. I'm gonnafind the other side for sure.
So, when we leave off so thiswoman
offered you a massage, right,okay,
woman offered me a massage. AndI was a little sketchy about it,
because I didn't like hervibration. But he has another
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thing that I learned that youalways have to listen to your
own gut intuition. Yeah. And soI went forward with it made an
appointment with her and beingpolite.
Oh, workers exactly react to it.
So atthe time, you don't really know
what a vibration is. So describeto me how she felt to you, just
so people can know what to lookfor.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm, I was alwaysa very intuitive person, as even
as a child. And I didn't reallyunderstand all of the vibrations
and, you know, grief and all ofthe stuff that I was going
through. And I think a lot ofpeople go through this and not
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understand what it is in. At thetime, I just like you said,
Lila, you know, you're, you'rebeing polite. You're being
respectful. And you know, right.
You don't want to hurt heryelling, exactly. offering them.
Exactly. So I said, You knowwhat, I'm just gonna go with it.
I really needed one and right,she offered it to me and I went
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forward with it. So deepin your gut, though, now that
you're you're a highly intuitiveperson, would you say that? Like
she felt heavy? Or did she like,can you describe that feeling
that you didn't listen to? Itwas? I'm sorry, because it might
help someone when they feel inthat feeling in that gut? Yeah,
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it was it was a gut, it was agut feeling of this woman is
very odd. Yeah. And I don't meanthat in a respectful way, at the
time, it was a feeling. It wasan icky feeling in my solar
plex. And I just like, I knewdeep down inside that it wasn't
for me, butso. So this is what we call
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discernment. And at the time,Vita had really beautiful, clear
discernment, but it wasuntrained. So at no fault of
yours. So discernment is when wefeel gut feelings. And we mix it
with perception in the absenceof judgment. So not judgment by
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perceiving. And when youperceive, and you have these gut
feelings, and they cometogether, that is discernment.
So when everyone is doing thesame thing, and you discern, and
you say, Hmm, it's not right forme, and you go in a different
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direction. That's listening toyour inner discernment. Now,
when someone knows why,specifically, they shouldn't do
the thing, that's when it'spsychic ability. So I just
wanted to clarify discernment.
Yeah. So at this point, youignore the discernment, which
most people do,and I was just at a dinner
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party, actually. And I thinkthere was seven of us there. And
I said, we were talking aboutwhatever. And I said, when you
have that gut feeling, doesn'tmatter who it is, you go into a
dentist's office, you gowherever. And you just get that
feeling like you don't know whatit is, or whatever. But you're
like, I don't want to be here.
Like, I mean, obviously,dentists bad because no one
really actually wants to bethere. But you get that feeling.
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Yeah. And I said to this group,seven women I said, Who would
leave? Like, who would actuallyget up and say, like, I'm not
gonna be one. One. All of ussaid, we would just, like, go
about it. Go into it. Yeah. Andsay, like, I'm just never coming
back here again, or for allthose like those crazy reasons.
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Like, I don't want to be rude.
You know, I don't want to startan argument. I don't, whatever.
So I'm just gonna,isn't that interesting?
Very, very interesting. Yeah. Imean, we all do it. We all do
it. We do. And I think it'ssuper super important to just
Yeah, excuse yourself and nohard fail
absolute or just, you know, justrun out. I just got a call and
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run out the door. Nice thing isyour bot, like you're
disrespecting your, your body'stelling you your soul. You're
being all the energy of yourbody's saying, like, you don't
belong here.
Right? Exactly.
And you're like, No, it's fine.
I'll be polite, it will allwork. Right? And then in your
experience, Vita, what happens?
Same thing, same thing happened.
I'm like, Okay, well, I'm gonnago forward with this. I really
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could use one. And I, you know,I sat with her and I explained
where I was feeling some achesand pains and, you know,
muscular system and she's like,sure, sure. Sure. Sure. Sure.
And she started me facedown. AndI literally just felt hands on
me. I didn't get into themuscular system. So I was like,
okay. It's not what I waslooking for.
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It didn't feel like a realmassage. No, absolutely not.
Okay. And during the massage inmy, I didn't eat that didn't
listen to my gut instinct. Okay,because I didn't want to just
get up and leave. Right? Yep.
And be rude. I'm like, legit bejust suck it up and get through
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it. Yeah, totally. And I did.
And by the time I left, it wasokay, fine. Thank you. It was
great. Moving on, I was drivinghome and I didn't feel like
myself at all.
How did you feel Vita? It,it felt very. I want to get the
right words for this. I didn'tfeel like I was in my body. I
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felt like there was somethingdividing me from my body.
So you go on in, you live yourlife for how long?
A couple of weeks went by, and Iwas, you know, noticing
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different things about myself.
The things that I wasn't doing,that I usually do, or even
watching a movie and feelinglike the same sensations that
you I used to, it just didn'tfeel right.
So you would say the biggestchange for you was the emotional
body.
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Yes, that's what where I caughton to it. Okay. The two weeks
went by. And then I finallysaid, I need to know something
else. Because this is not who Iam. Because it's not getting
better. No, not at all. I gaveit a shot and like, oh, I don't
know, this is weird. Maybe we'lljust move forward, something
will come my way to make meunderstand why I feel this way.
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And I reached out to peoplemore. Actually, a friend of
mines friend was a card reader.
And I said, You know what, letme just give it a shot and see
if she may know something. Idon't know, read my cards.
Like, tell me what's wrong withme. Tell me all my problems? I
don't know. Yeah.
What are you picking up here?
Yeah,you know, I know what that's
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like.
So I sat down with her and sheread my cards. And I explained
to her what I was feeling. Andshe left it at that she didn't
move forward just yet. Andhotel, like complained enough.
And I knew she knew somethingthat I didn't. It's just that
gut feeling again. So here I ammoving forward with her. And she
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basically told me, you know,let's meet up. I you know, I
would love to see you. And wesat down at the kitchen table
and she opened up a window, shecracked up a window about a
couple inches and she had thisconcoction at the table and
she's you know, doing her thingand I'm like, have no idea what
she's doing.
So this is in the second visit asecond bit. Yeah, she's making
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like, was it herbal? Was it?
What I remember? I think it wasHimalayan salt. Oh yeah.
Don't you love VITAS so polite?
She still doesn't even say like,what are you doing over there?
No, he just sits there. Nope. Sopolite. I was aware of my
surroundings. I knew somethingwas in the air, but I wasn't
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sure what. She puts it in theziplock bag and she gives it to
me. She says I want you to rubit over your heart center. And
for a few minutes and she'slooking at me and she's staring
at me and she's talking to meand I'm saying okay. All right.
So those you can't see our VITASrubbing it on our high right
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now.
Yeah. And she took the bag forme and she stood beside me and
she placed it on the back of myheart center. And she was Robin,
same thing. She was looking atme and talking to me. And I
said, Okay, great. All of asudden, she hits me in the back
of my back.
Oh, she gives you an Italianlove slap. Yeah. It was like a
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nice little smack off the back.
Yeah. And all of a sudden, Ifelt this overwhelming feeling
of relief and lightness that Ihad no idea what happened.
And she and does she sayanything to you? Yeah.
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She looked at me and she said,There it goes. I said, What?
Their guts what goes right? WhatWhat are you talking about? And
I said, What just happened? Isaid it's this is amazing. And
she says, Well, you had anentity and you're a male entity
in your body, and I just removedhim. And I see she says a nice
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saw him fly right out thewindow.
Yeah. And had you not feltbetter? You probably would have
been like,oh, good okey. Exactly. But you
felt bad I felt the difference.
Yeah. I felt lighter. I felt my,my emotional body again. And it
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went into a, I want to say to aplace of bliss. I felt that I
needed to be outdoors. I saw thegreen the trees, the grass, it
was the colors were very, veryvibrant for me.
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So you really felt better. Likeyou were like, oh my god, like I
feel it was beyond better. Yeah.
Better. So like, was it rightwhen you went home? Was it the
following day?
No, it was at that moment thatsplit second Wow. went right
into the evening. I needed toleave the house to go outside. I
needed nature. I needed to feeland breathe it all in.
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Yep. So at this point, your yourfive senses were heightened?
Yes. When the five senses areheightened. We reach
enlightenment and bliss. So youfeel this for how long?
I would say that happened likeabout three o'clock in the
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afternoon. I felt it throughoutthe evening. And then the next
morning when I woke up. My wholelife changed.
So when you came home thatnight, I'm just curious. Did you
like say to anybody, you'renever gonna believe what just
happened to me. I went to thiscard reader and she told me I
had a male entity. She sent iton its way and it flew out the
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window and I feel fantastic.
Absolutely not. You just quietlysaid like, this is fantastic.
Yeah, whatever it is. I'll takeit.
Yeah. Yeah. I just I how manypeople would look at you and
say, Are you okay, right.
Right. Yeah. Okay, so then thenext day,
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I kept it to myself. And thenext morning I woke up with this
burning, burning, burning, likereally burning sensation in my
solar plexus, which is the thirdchakra. Okay,
so it's like Sun Valley,everybody. Yeah, top of the
valley Lexus yet.
And it was in, that's when mywhole life turned upside down.
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And I couldn't understand whatwas happening. I ended up
calling her and I said, Listen,this is what's happening. Why do
I feel this way? I went fromfeeling amazing. And feeling
this bliss in this beauty infront of my eyes to you know,
the complete total opposite. Canyou like get out of bed? Like
does your body hurt? Are you areyou functioning?
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So my body was functioning? Myenergy level was skyrocketed.
Oh, my energy level was I mean,I was how can I? I mean, I was
cleaning chandeliers and wallsand you know, wow. I mean, it
was like an energy that I neededto get out of my body. Yeah. So
just think of, you know, four orfive caffeinated coffees
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tenfold. Because, you know, itwas a very, very high vibration
that I couldn't sustain. Okay,now that I know that but at the
time I didn'twrite right. So at that time, so
So now you're feeling likereally energetic? And how else
do you feel?
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Now I'm I know that something'sdifferent about myself. And I
didn't know what it could be.
And as the days went on, thingsstarted to shift there was
fogginess in my mind anxiousnessvibration, very high, my body
would tweak. It would jolt itwould shake. Like I said, there
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was just this huge fog over myhead and my eyes. I could not
focus. I could not decideanything. There was massive
confusion. I heard buzzing in myears like they were bees beside
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my ears. Were you sad? I wasn'tsad just yet. So that eventually
started to happen after all ofthese symptoms where I was like,
Okay, maybe this will be over inone day. I don't know what to
think. And as the days went on,it would progress. One thing
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after another, it just happenedin all of those symptoms. was
that I couldn't understand andput my finger on. Where just it
was so heavy that I could whenwhen I couldn't understand what
it was. That's when it startedto get me anxious. Nervous,
angry. Frustrated, veryfrustrated.
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I only know because I workedwith you, but we'll get to that.
Yes.
And do the people around you,your family, like your husband,
your children? Are theynoticing? Like, what is going on
with you? Are people asking youlike, hey, vida, are you? Okay?
Well,my, my husband, I actually sat
down with him. And I explainedwhat happened to me at that
time, because now I am like,have no, I don't have control
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over this. Right? So I needhelp, right? Because this is
impacting everything. Now. It'simpacting my life. Okay, you
know. So I move forward with youknow, going on to internet and
all right, is this depression?
Is this anxiety? Right? Is this,I didn't know, what was
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happening, like, is this amedical condition is a medical
condition, right? Because I atthe time, a friend of mine was
like, Well, maybe you shouldjust go to the doctors and you
know, see what I'm like, I amnot going to the doctors,
they're going to look at me andsay that I am completely crazy.
And I refused it. Because I knewI knew deep down inside, that a
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person's life cannot change fromone day to the next in that way.
Okay. And I had thisdetermination inside of me that
I was going to figure it out.
And I did not go to the doctorsbecause I knew that they would
have medicated me, which I knewI didn't want medication. There
was another explanation deepdown inside that I knew that I
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needed to find. And that's whenI searched.
So the medical community has itsplace. Absolutely. And for for
some for some people in times oftrauma. And they would treat
this as from the mental body.
But what VITA is explaining andfrom helping Vita through this
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is that you had an innateknowing that this had to do with
the emotional body in this theenergetic body. Not so much the
mental body. Correct. Okay. Andso you went how long like this.
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So as I moved forward, and Ireally had no direction to go.
And I said to myself, thissomething wrong with me, and I
cannot understand why. And thisis why I'm gonna go take a yoga
class, I'm just going to see ifI can relax my body, get myself
out of my mind a little bit, andmaybe something will shift if I
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get take the nervous systemdown. So I did I took a class.
And luckily, there was only oneother person in that classroom,
went through the whole class andwent into Shavasana. shavasana
was a corpse pose at the end.
Yeah, so she knew that everybodyknew lay there everybody and go
Nighty night night. Yeah, it'stime for
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a nap. Yeah. And the minute Ilaid into Shavasana, my whole
body just started to the onlyway I could explain it like a
fish out of water flat,flat flat. What does that word
lightly? Yeah, like the whalelike a fishy?
Yeah, yes, was I was jolting andjust couldn't control it. I had
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no idea what was happening tome. And luckily, luckily, the
woman that taught the classlooked at me and she tried to
relax my body. And it was justuncontrollable. The other woman
in the class. God bless her. Iscared her. I'm sure. She ran
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out of there real quick.
But I had something to do itright.
I'm never going back.
The instructor looked at me andshe said to me, it's okay. And
she said, I know somebody thatcan help you. And I looked at
her and I said, what ishappening to me? She wrote down
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a name and a number.
How good did that feel? Vita. Iwas someone said, I just got
chills. I know what's happening.
Like, did you just feel sohopeful at that moment?
That point? Yes. I'm likesomebody has answers for me. And
I'm so grateful that this justhappened. Yeah.
Can we pause here for a moment?
Absolutely. So those of us thathave had a C section when you're
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given drugs And they tie yourarms down. I hope I'm not
scaring anyone that needs a Csection coming up. But this is
the truth. Tell your arms down.
Yeah, yeah. Like this. Oh, yeah,you're like a T. Did you have a
C section? No.
Oh, we got to talk about this.
Yeah, I did have a C section theyear right?
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You start to Flint flail is thatthe word you shake. And the
medical community is correct,that you shake us because of the
drugs. But from the energeticstandpoint, you are shaking
because you have an innateknowing that you're about to be
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cut with a Kundalini is andyou're also birthing a beautiful
baby that is coming out of thatarea. And so when I was shaking
during my C section, I'm like,Oh, we're about to open up my
Kundalini. And it was very,very, very psychic moment for
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me. I've told some stories onhere before.
Did they tell you that that wasgonna happen? No, they tell you
nothing. So I tell friends whenthey get pregnant. I'm not here
to scare you. But the C sectionis no joke. And they don't tell
you. Everyone shakes. Oh, okay.
The 10 They never knew that.
Yeah, so your arms in you knowit is because you're on a lot of
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drugs. And if someone is in themedical community and wants to
comment on here and tell us morewhy Lila and I are so open about
it. But I wanted to give you anenergetic interpretation of
like, the Kundalini is basicallyat the base of the spine. And
that's where they're opening youup. And you're also birthing so
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yeah, you It awakens theKundalini and helps you be have
intuition and heightened yourmama intuition to know how to
help your baby. Yeah. So fromnear vida, you, so we left off
where you're just about, oh, shesays, I know how to help you.
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And we had a she said you it'slike Dorothy and the Wizard of
Oz. Yeah, we hit the Scarecrow.
Yeah. That momentwhen somebody asks you like, I
can fix? Yeah.
Yes, it was. It was. It wasvery, it was very helpful. Yeah.
You know, at least somebody knewsomething. Right. So meanwhile,
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behind the scenes spirit issending helpers to help theatre
Correct. Okay, so what's thefirst stop?
So the first stop was with awoman in I don't want to mention
any names, because I don't knowif I can. And she sat down with
me and basically told me that Ihad an kundalini awakening. Now,
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she has a background of youknow, she's a yogi. So I, and I
looked at her and I said, whatthat half is, like, right? What
is that? Yeah. Like? Do youunderstand what I'm just what
I've been going through here?
Like, you need to explain from Ato Z, exactly what's happening,
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right? And she did this littlestick picture of, how do I say
that? A stick figure in thechakras and she's drawing all
over this paper and she's like,You got to do the work.
So exactly what we explained inthe beginning, was she she
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explained to you Vita, that weall have a Kundalini at the base
of our spine, and it's a coil.
And when the entity was removed,it it caused your Kundalini to
rise all the way to the crownchakra everyone that's at the
top of your head.
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And is this the bliss that thatVita experience? Yeah,
okay, so the crown chakracompletely opens and Vita was
probably highly psychic forthose few hours, if not day, and
she reached enlightenment. Butwhat happened was the physical
body carries the emotional bodybecause the emotions live in the
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cells of the body. And theemotions were out of balance,
where there was more negativeemotions and beat his body than
positive at that time. Correct.
And so what it caused was thephysical body and the emotional
body in the spiritual bodycouldn't hold the enlightenment.
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So the Kundalini shot back down,and when the Kundalini shoots
back down, we go into what AngelAMI calls dark night of the
soul, and you start to feeldepressed Everything I described
a little bit ago. And that'swhat happened to you. Is that
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correct? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So Soyou meet this woman. And now she
wants you to do what?
Why he really didn't lead meanything, but she gave me the
title ofwhat was happening. Got it like
what you could do? Yes. And thenfigure out what resonates. It
reallywasn't that much help. But what
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she the way she explained it tome made sense. Okay, but I still
needed to search for more,because I still didn't know what
I needed to dowhen she said, like, you have to
do the work. Did she tell youwhat that was going to entail?
No, no,I had no idea what the word
meant is the work. Yeah, Ilooked at her and says, I'm
going to do all the work that Ineed to do. You need to tell me
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what the work is. Right? And,and that's Aveda. She like she
would 100 She's in 150%. Like,I'll do it. And yet no one's
telling you what know what.
Exactly.
So she was just an ingredient inthe recipe, but an important one
absolute. So she gave you thatingredient. And that was up to
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you. Now I Doris either go downthe yellow brick road, right?
Yeah. Okay.
And I needed to search more.
Yeah. And I searched and Isearched and another amazing
woman came into my life. And sheI don't even remember how it
happened. But I'm just gonnaleave it at she came into my
life at the right time. And shesaid, and I explained my story
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to her because I knew she knewwhat I was talking about. And
she so happened to purchase thiscourse online, that her and her
partner were actually educatingthemselves on. Okay. And sure
enough, it had to do with all ofmy symptoms.
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Wow. And what so what symptomsare those beta,
the symptoms were as we, as timewent on, it was just very, very
high energy, the buzzing of theears. But then it also started
to get into the depression pieceof it. And then I started to or
not, it was just so angry. Icouldn't understand why this was
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happening to me. And all theconfusion, the confusion, and
fog was very, very heavy in myhead. And the I couldn't grasp
things like you would tell mesomething in two minutes later,
I would completely forget whatyou said, Wow. I couldn't focus.
Just a lot of different things.
A lot ofhow long did this go on for? And
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then I have another question. Itwent that went on for my months
and months and months. I so Ithink I saw you probably like
seven months into it. Okay, Ididn't realize like, it was a
long period of time because myYeah, I couldn't find Yeah,
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happening.
So So you were having this darknight of the soul? Of course,
you don't know. That's what itis. But you're getting out of
bed.
Most days or every day. Okay.
Because I was determined. Andthen you're in your you weren't.
So you were you werefunctioning, but you weren't
functioning at full capacity.
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Correct. Oh, you werefunctioning from this very
depressed? Yes. State? Yes. Ordepressed and angry. And, like a
lot of really negative emotions.
Completelylost. Yeah. Okay. But I was
functioning. Yeah. Because of mydetermination of getting up and
figuring out exactly what washappening to me. Because all I
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kept thinking, Where are mybabies? And I needed to be here
for my babies. There was no wayin hell, I was going down.
For those that don't know, I'mgonna cry. Vita has two children
and Lila has two children. AndI'm a mom too. And sometimes
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these kids are given as gifts tohelp us keep going. Right?
Absolutely. Absolutely. So thenI know that if you're Dorothy,
I'm kind of liking this metaphorto lighten things a little bit.
I know your story. And you goand you see the Scarecrow and
then you see the tin man. Andthen you make it to the lion.
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Right? And they were friendlypeople along the journey, but
and they came with you rightlike skin Yeah, sang song, but
do you know and then eventually,the Lion said, You need to go
see Glinda right.
When I think they know who.
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So before I jump into what wedid, because it's fascinating.
Do you want to tell anything?
Did I leave anything out?
I do want to just add to thatreal quick about the symptoms
and the motions and everythingthat I was feeling it was. I had
to distance myself from peoplebecause I wasn't who I was. And
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a very close friend of minenoticed that there was something
up. And when she looked at me,and I didn't explain anything to
her, because I don't didn'tthink she would understand any
of it. But she looked me in theface, and she said Wii U. She
looked me deep in the eyes andsay, there's a complete void
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there. Where are you? Oh, wow.
So that's what it looks like.
Yeah, you know, there's athere's another perspective of
it, or another view of it. So,you know, really looking deep
into somebody's somebody's eyesand noticing that there's a
complete void. Like they'rethere, but they're really not.
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Yeah, that makes sense. Yes,it does. So you, you were when
someone has a void, they'reliving 95% in the ego. And
they're only like, a very smallpercentage in their soul. So
what that means is like, whenyou feel depressed, or angry, or
sad, or abandoned, or guilty, orwhatever it is, blame shame,
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you're those are all emotionshoused in the ego. And you only
have those so you can learn fromthem. And they can very easily
be released from the body sothat you don't, they don't
trigger or trigger in some way.
And then the soul houses alllike the peace, the joy, the
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love, harmony, hope, andfreedom. And so the goal is, is
that if we want to feel present,and we want that Kundalini to
rise peacefully, we begin towork on the patterns and themes.
And this is what Vita and I didwhen she finally came to see
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Glinda. And we, you work onthose patterns and themes. But
before I go there, let's kind ofjump to when you came to me. So
a friend. Can I add one more?
Yes, please do. Because youmay have a better explanation of
this. I felt like I was hoveringover my body. Yeah, you know, I
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didn't feel like I was in mybody. But I was moving through
the motions and trying to dowhat I needed to do on my daily
for my family and my loved onesand I couldn't get into my body
was just a complete. So I thinkyou have something about how
that feeling of hovering overthe body. Better definite
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definition. Well,it's living in authentically is
one way to say it. But it's alsolike disassociation, because you
weren't able to connect to theemotions that are in your soul,
you were only able to connect tothe ones that were over in the
ego. So it disassociate you fromthe physical body. And you feel
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like you're hovering over. Yeah.
And so that was basically therecipe I used in your sessions.
So Vita ended up at thechiropractor, I'm quickly
telling her story. She's my verybest friend. So I can do this.
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And there's a woman that wasthere that we both know, that
whispered to you, you're havingan awakening, right? And you
looked big with big eyes, andyou're like, how do you know?
Yeah, well, I was I was in sucha deep state, that that's all I
did was cry, right? And sheliterally she was doing an exam
on my back. And she looked at meand she peeked over and looked
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me in the face and said, you'rehaving an awakening. And I
looked at her and I said, what,what did you just say? Like, how
did you know I was oblivious toall of this? Right? And so yeah,
and then she gave me Amy'snumber.
She actually gave you someoneelse. And so the Scarecrow sent
you to the tin man. Yeah. Andthen the Tin Man, whatever. So
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somehow we ended up as Glindaright. Okay. So so at this
point, you're in dark night ofthe soul. We just outline you're
depressed, you're anxious. Youbut you're determined that this
doesn't just happen to someoneovernight. So there's more to
this. Yes. And you had kind offigured out well, maybe not to
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saw me that it's the one I toldyou. It's the emotional body and
in the in the energetic body.
Okay. Vita comes into my office,and I felt her energy and was
like, I had you Tell me yourstory of how I can help you. And
you tell me I think you told meabout the entity and I haven't
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been the same sense. And VITASenergy was so heavy and so dark.
I wasn't sure quite where tobegin. So I don't necessarily
see auras, but I can see energyaround the physical body in
VITAS in it's like a feelinglike I take the scene with the
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feeling. And I'm seeing likedark color with heavy, which
means depressed, anxious, right?
Lost in so Vita wasn'tnecessarily disagreeing with me,
right at this point. And you allyou can about was like, Do you
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know what you can do to fix it?
Yeah, yeah. No, at this point,Vita just thought I was going to
be Glinda with my magic watch. Ireally did think that was
not looking for that.
Yeah. And we would just kind ofdo the magic wand in 45 minutes,
and then poof, VITAS kind ofVivi. And she's gonna know
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things and feel things and haveher little intuitive psychic
ability, but no. So I tell Vita,that if we go on this journey
together, we need to go intoyour inner child in go into
childhood, and I explain why.
Because it's connected to theemotional and energetic body.
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And that's why you feel thisway. And VITAS response was
what?
My childhood was perfect.
Of course, and I say to myself,Oh, no, she's never coming back
again. I was like, No.
And so let me just say, onequestion, because this one
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totally resonates with me.
Because of course, I was alwayslike, just fix my back, like,
stop asking me about when I waseight. Like, I'm not interested,
like the backerLila work with me doing like
Lila back when you were eight?
And it's like,no, no, I mean, my back hurts
now, love. So I'm just wonderingfor you, did you feel that same
sort of like when Amy startstalking, like, we gotta go back?
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We gotta dig all this stuff out,are you? And you say like, oh,
you know, my childhood was wasperfect. Like, there was no
problem like, did you? Like, wasthere any part of you that was
like, maybe it wasn't,I had no idea where she was
going with us. I had zero. Imean, now. Now, here I am going
through this experience, thespiritual experience, right. And
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I'm forced into the spiritualworld, and she's thrown all
these things at me. I'm like, Idon't care what you have to do.
Just let me just help me like,but after that first session, I
noticed the shift. And that'swhen I just I'm like, I finally
found someone that could help mebecause now, rewinding here for
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a second, I saw many, manydifferent healers, because I
knew that was the route I neededto take. But I was determined, I
don't know 1015 Differenthealers, nobody could help me.
And that split moment when youknow, that woman actually sent
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me to Amy up there was hopebecause I felt a shift I felt a
differencein the biggest thing I can say
is yes, we did Emotional FreedomTechnique, and we tapped but
there's something more I want totalk about. That may help people
that helped you know, the thingthat helped you. But before I
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do, we did tap and we didrelease. But when we tied
together the energetics of yourcurrent day life with how it
connected emotionally to whenyou were little, and then
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released it and then give givingyou tips and tools on now how to
play out your current day lifewith those themes and patterns
differently. And you actuallyfollowed what I would tell you
in feel it inside your body,that it resonated. That's when
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you started to shift quicker.
Yeah. Did that make sense? LilaYeah, totally. Totally.
Yeah. And I saw you for twoyears. For two
years. She would come in withstories this happened to me and
I don't like it. And I don'tlike the way I'm acting angry
me. I want to punch this personin the face. And now is this all
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current day stuff? This we Youwould use current day to then go
into past. And then I would usesometimes psychic ability, when
she wasn't able to connect it.
And then all of a sudden, sheburst into tears. And I knew I
was on the money. And sometimesshe would come in and want to
work on one thing. And theangels would have me take her in
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a completely differentdirection. And then she would
feel 1,000% Better. And thethings I have to say about you
VITA is you were relentless infinding the path to peace, love
and harmony, the journey back toyou. You never gave up. The
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determination was off thecharts. But the other thing is
you 1,000% trusted me andrespected me. And even when you
will, like any, we got it, wegot to jump and I'd say no, we
need to lay down. you'd listen.
Or when you'd say we got to laydown and be like Vita today with
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jumping. Right? Yeah.
Because whatever you helped mewith, I felt the difference
inside. You know, I mean, like Isaid, I went to many different
healers, and they would make medo things that I had no idea
what they you know, and therewas no change, there was no
shift. But when I saw Amy, fromthe first day, there was a
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shift, and I'm like, oh, okay, Icaught on to it. And I was like
I said, I was relentless. Andthere was no stopping me. I
remember, my babies were mypriority. Yeah, they were my
priorityhere on Earth. But if that's
true in then your soulspriority, yes. Is to take you
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back to love and compassion.
Absolutely. But at the time,yeah, that's what making me. And
that's that. So anyone listeningto this, whatever motivates you
to get to the finish line,listen, and go for it, you're
worth it, whether it's yourbabies, or it's a job where
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people rely on you, or whateverit takes to get you to, you
know, to look at you and keepgoing. Right, yeah,
and all of those protectionsaround those emotions,
especially if they come up, whenyou're a child, your body does
that to protect you, it comes uplike you have to get rid of it
that's kind of along those linesof clearing the energy and
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facing what happened. You know,you can word it however way you
want to. But it's also importantto remember that you created it
out of protection, because youneeded it. And so your body was
we're gonna get you got you.
You'll forget about this.
Yeah, I mean, there's a wholeyou know, we're all here for a
reason, you know, and we gothrough our childhood the way
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it's supposed to unfold. Andthen eventually we reconnect
with that, and you know, alongthe years along your journey,
and it's super important toremember who you are, and bring
those pieces of puzzle backtogether again, to the
spectacular human being that youare, and the more people can all
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connect to this, the more we canall help each other. And why
frantically, authentically loveone another?
So beautiful Vita and Yeah, canyou tell everybody how you feel
now?
I feel amazing, I feel free. Ifeel light you know, the ability
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to see a person in front of youand actually see, the beautiful
soul that's within this humanbeing. It's a beautiful place to
actually not have judgment or,you know, discriminate or all of
the negatives that come with it.
And it's a beautiful, fulfillingfeeling within your heart. It's
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a it's a, I'm trying to explainjust the huge, heartfelt you
know, it's my heart is full. Youknow, do we still learn things
throughout our journey?
Absolutely. things creep up andsay, Well, I got more work to
do.
Yeah, you know, but you have thetools right. So I do you know, I
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do have the tools V that thankyou so much for coming on and
sharing.
Thank you so much for having me.
I really appreciate it. And Ihope that I bring light to
people that are struggling andhaving a difficult time and that
there is hope. There's alwayssomebody out there to help you.
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Absolutely. So Vita VITA is anamazing massage. therapist and
yoga instructor and where canpeople find you if they'd like
to talk to you about whatthey're experiencing or take one
of your classes?
Sure, sure. You can reach me atvita, vi ta Lima Li Li m o
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can help you, I'd be more thanhappy to help and if I can't,
I'll find someone to help you.
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