Who are your ancestors and guides? How, specifically, can you best work with them for help with your life today? Don't miss these TWO guided exercises in this next level conversation with my guest, Sharon Anne Klingler about her newest book Answers from the Ancestral Realms.
Sharon Anne Klingler is a world renowned Intuitive Medium and Teacher who has worked with celebrities,; the FBI; members of Congress; and high-profile clients around the world. She has been featured on the Oprah Winfrey Network; BBC London and Scotland; the Discovery Channel; and on major outlets across the globe.
Her books have been international best sellers on three continents.
Sharon is a Registered Medium in Lily Dale and an ordained Spiritualist minister. You will find that your readings with Sharon will give you a profound experience of your guides and loved ones in spirit and the messages they bring.
Some Key Takeaways and their timestamps:
0:01 Welcome to the Spirit Speakeasy.
Who is Sharon Anne Klingler? 2:25
The importance of speaking easily to spirit.4:48
We can attract ancestors, guides, and inspirers.10:22
We have two parts of the brain: the left parietal lobe, where we do math, and the right brain, where spirit drops messages. 16:38
Working with past life guides in two different ways.20:26
Spirit can see around the bend a little bit better than we can.24:55
How to keep your head out of your head when doing readings. 31:57
The Importance of Public mediumship . 37:43
Why so many people don’t carry on their relationships with their loved ones after they die. 43:44
Why we should not be diminishing our biological ancestors by any measure.48:55
The connection between our freewill and our ancestors’.53:27
What is one thing that shocked you or was unexpected about your spiritual gifts? 58:38
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(00:01):
Hey beautiful soul Welcome tospirits speakeasy. I'm Joy
Giovanni joyful medium. I'm aworking psychic medium energy
healer and spiritual giftsmentor. This podcast is like a
seat at the table in a secretclub, but with mediums, mystics
and the spiritual luminaries ofour time. So come behind the
(00:22):
velvet ropes with me and seeinside my world is I chat
insider style with profoundlydifferent souls. We go deep
share juicy stories laugh a lotand it wouldn't be a speakeasy
without great insider secretsand tips. You might even learn
that you have some gifts of yourown. So step inside the spirit
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speakeasy. Hey, beautiful soul,I am joyful, medium Joy Giovanni
and this is spirit speakeasy. Inour conversation today, we get
the honor to speak with Sharonand Klingler. She has an
incredible psychic medium, butalso an international teacher,
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and speaker and best sellingauthor, which is one of the
things that we really dive intotoday, her new book, answers
from the ancestral realm. And wereally get into questions like
what's the difference betweenancestors and guides. And she
also goes into this explanationof what our ancestors actually
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are, who they are, what anancestor means. And it might not
be exactly what you think thedefinition might surprise you a
little bit, but it is so coolthe way that she perceives it
the way that she explains it andall of the exercises in this
book, it is quickly becoming oneof my top resources for clients
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wanting to just have someexercises and some experiences
and a place to start diving intothe work for themselves. She's
so generous in not onlyspontaneously diving into two
different visualizationexercises to answer different
questions in this episodeitself, but she shares a free
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resource that she has on herwebsite for anyone who's
recognizing patterns in theirlife and their behavior patterns
that they're just not seeming tobreak. So she's got a free
resource for you for that. Soyou won't want to miss that.
There is so much in thisconversation. I'm hoping that
listening to it really helpsopen your perspective. Maybe it
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validates some things thatyou've already been feeling or
sensing or knowing deep withinyourself some different ways of
thinking of ancestors and guidesand our connection to them. And
I've been a fan of Sharon's workfor a really long time. And she
is just a wealth of knowledgeand information and experience
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and I'm so excited to share thisconversation with you. And don't
miss the show notes because allthe important links are there or
you can also find them on mywebsite joyful medium.com/blog
Because I don't want you to missout on all of these incredible
resources that she talks aboutduring this episode. So let's
dive in. Hey, I am Joy Giovannijoyful medium and you are inside
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the spirit speakeasy. Our guesttoday is very special. So I'm
going to read her bio because Iwant to get right to talking to
her. Today we have with usSharon and Klingler. Sharon is
one of the world's leadingintuitive she's a psychic
medium, but she's also workedwith television anchors film
writers, producers Emmy TonyOscar Grammy winners, the FBI
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members of Congress and reallyhigh profile clients around the
world. Her books have beeninternational best sellers on
three continents. And she's beenfeatured on The Oprah Winfrey
net Oprah Winfrey Network BBCLondon and Scotland and the
Discovery Channel and all thesemajor outlets across the globe.
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And Sharon's even a registeredmedium in Lilydale, which is in
New York and an ordainedspiritualist minister and she
still has a practice doingreadings and in her readings,
you'll find that Sharon reallygives profound experiences to
her clients and helps themunderstand guides loved ones in
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the spirit world and themessages that they bring for our
lives. Today Sharon is going toshare with us about her newest
book answers from the ancestralrealms which is now available.
welcome Sharon I'm so happy tohave you here.
Thank you so much joy and thankyou so much for having me on
your program. I really reallyappreciate that. And I totally
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love love love the name of yourpodcast spirit speakeasy it
because they that's, that'sreally like one of my mottos. I
mean, speaking easily to spiritis people don't understand. It's
not some kind of jump through amillion hoops practice for a
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million years. You know, whatwas it the I love what the Dalai
Lama said about enlightenment.
And enlightenment takes a longtime, unless it doesn't. Because
literally, you can haveenlightenment like this. Or you
could just go through all ofthese machinations and your
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traumas and dramas and, or youcan't wake up, you know, and
that's the same with speaking tospirit, you, you could get it,
you could get it and you can getit now. And it's that easy. Or
you can make it really hard foryourself. And you can doubt no
good question. And you can throwblocks in your way. Or you can
just open yourself to yourimaging side of the brain, and
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you can get it. And peoplereally don't understand how easy
it is. And that's really one ofone of the important pieces that
I What motivated me to writethis book. So yes,
I love that you have thisphilosophy too, of making it so
accessible, I shared with youright before we popped on, I've
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been a fan of your work foryears, you at one point had a
radio show with your sister, andI used to listen to you guys
regularly. She's also anintuitive medium, and happens to
be your twin, which is so cool.
And a lot of your work at thattime you're focusing on, you
know, not just mediumship, butalso past lives. And I love how
now you've moved it into talkingabout, you know, the ancestral
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realms and how it really isavailable to everyone. You don't
have to, you know, of course, wewant to pursue more training so
that we can advance in our workand our own development and our
own, you know, whatever we wantto express in the world as
divine creators, but it's simplethat anyone their first day can
have access to this. Right,right,
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exactly. And that's actually oneof the might my most joyful
things about this book is myniece gave it to a friend of
hers who actually would neverhave even thought about talking
to her family or that type ofthing. And it wasn't even on her
radar. And she, you know, shetold me after just reading the
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the first second chapter, shesaid, I didn't realize that they
were here, I didn't realize howeasy it was to talk to them. And
it opened up this world to me, Ididn't know these people were
here. And I didn't know that Iactually had it inside me to do
it. And on the other hand, I'vehad professional mediums call me
who have been mediums fordecades. And say, Sharon,
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there's techniques in this bookthat I never knew about that,
you know, never occurred to methat take seconds and just
flipped me right into the spiritworld. I mean it just so I
really, really am delighted tofind that this is helping
newbies as well as really oldtimers like me. So
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well, I make a great point.
Because the truth is that thereare all different ways to tap
into the other side, it's notsome faraway place, and you give
so many tips and tools and easyto understand walkthroughs of
these techniques. But one of myfavorite things about the book
is the way that you define orredefine what the ancestors
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actually are. For us. It's notjust people who you are blood
related to in this time. Can youtalk a little bit of I don't
want give any spoilers about thebook?
No, that's okay. That's veryokay. Because that's an
important thing for people tounderstand. Most of the world
thinks and appropriately sothat, that their ancestors are
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their grandmas and greatgrandfathers and, and that type
of thing. And of course, thosepeople are your ancestors. But
the word ancestors means thosewho have gone before. So it's
everybody who has gone before invarious parts of our world. For
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instance, those who have gonebefore in government, you know,
our founding fathers are theancestors to those who are in
Washington DC trying to pull ourgovernment back together again.
Now, those are our ancestralgovernors, and those who gave us
governance then, or theancestors to those who are
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giving us government governancenow, and, and financiers, those
who are in the financialdistrict. Those who went before
in finance are there ancestors,you know, for instance, the
great financers of of, you know,the great magnets of you know,
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Rockefeller and Pierpont Morgan,you know, and all of the great
financers, from, from 100 yearsago, there are the ancestors of
the financers. Now, and so weall of us can tune into, if
we're a book writer, we can tuneinto the writers who have gone
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before. And we do, and even ifwe don't even intentionally do
it, for instance, if, if you'rewriting a book, and you're not
even a medium, and you're notcalling out to spirit, your
energies of writing a book, gointo your aura, and their aura
goes out into the ethers. Andthat aura acts as a beacon. And
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other book writers, those whohave gone before into spirit,
say, Oh, she's writing a book.
And oh, look, it's these colors.
And those colors. That's thekind of writing that I like, or
that's the type of subject thatI like, I'm going to go play,
I'm going to go help, I'm goingto go work. And so we attract to
us, the four runners, the fourrunners or ancestors who have
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worked on books before, and theyhelp us and even if we don't
even know it, they drop ideasinto our right brain. And we'll
get the idea, even if we thinkit's our own idea. And if we
don't meditate and start to talkto them, that's how the only way
they can help us except formaybe in our dreams, too.
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And I love that you talk aboutyou know that we can attract
ancestors guides, helpers,inspirers, just based on our
openness on what we're workingon what we're trying to put
forward. And they'll help useven if we don't know, on a
conscious level, that we'reengaging with them, what's an
easy way for someone, you know,to start channeling for writing,
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or just to start playing withthis energy, if they're brand
new, and just wanting to getstarted? What do you think, a
good suggestion for them? Well,as I say, in the book, you have
to really keep it very simple,you first of all, there's just a
really a couple of steps, youinvite the ancestors. And
really, the invitation is kindof a redundancy, because they're
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already hanging out with you,you know, we tell everybody, we
have a lot less privacy than wethink. Because Spirit comes,
comes right through the wallsand says Hi, you know, you know,
my son used to wake up in themiddle of night and say, Mommy,
the people in the living roomare making too much noise, I
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can't sleep. You know, so theycome around, but the invitation
also acts as centering focus ofintention for you. So when you
sent forth the invitation, itcenters your intention, I'm
going to talk to spirit now. Andthen you open your right brain,
you activate your right brain.
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And you can do that with avisualization. Or you could just
do that with a thought. But Ilike to do with a visualization.
Some people don't see things,but they can visualize
conceptional conceptually, forinstance, if I were to say, see
a red apple, you don't see it,you would actually conceptualize
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it in your mind. So I tellpeople when they're just getting
started to imagine a door, andthen once you imagine the door,
see, imagine that door open andsee one of your ancestors come
through the door. And it mightbe an ancestor that you know,
and it might not be an ancestorthat you know, but whatever
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happens, let it happen, and justsee who comes through. And then
the final thing is to just trusteverything that happens.
Yeah, so I think the biggestthing I think, right, we get in
our own way,right? So yeah, so so if you're
fine, I mean, everybody can dothis right now if you want to do
that everybody just close youreyes for just a couple minutes
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just a second here. Close youreyes. And and just just turn on
your right brain. Just take adeep breath and relax and turn
on your right brain that's wherespirit talks to you and spirits
shows you everything they needto show you and invite spirit
forward and start to feel theirloving energy don't expect
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anything, just let it happen.
And with another deep breathjust imagine a door just see it
sense it feel it however it isthat you get it and as you sense
or see the Door, allow it tojust open up as it would open,
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perhaps slowly, maybe even here,a little creek at the hinge. And
as the door opens, one of yourancestors steps right through to
you, and steps right up to you,and perhaps even embraces you,
and let yourself see and senseand feel and know that ancestor,
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whoever that is, and trustexactly everything that you get.
And let this ancestor while thisancestor is with you right now,
just give you an image or a wordthat acts as a message to you
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could be a symbol could be acolor, or just a word. And feel
the embrace of love. And maybeyou feel other ancestors coming
through the door between behindhim or her. That's okay, you
might feel a whole gathering ofall bunch of ancestors, let that
happen. Let yourself feel all ofthe things that you feel with
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this ancestor or the otherancestors that gather around
you. And if you get anotherimage or word, let that happen
to now take a deep, happybreath. And say thank you to
this ancestor, trustingeverything that happened for you
start to bring yourself back andbring yourself back and open
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your eyes again. Wow, whata cool, simple exercise. That's
so simple, simple. It's thatsimple. But you know, the sad
part is people don't met let itbe that simple. Now they say, I
only imagining it, I must bemaking it up. Because they don't
realize that we have two partsof the brain, the left parietal
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lobe, which is where we do math,where we observe where we judge
and measure now judging andmeasure is the egos domain,
okay? That's all ego still selfstuff. But the right brain is
where spirit where we image. Andthat's where spirit drops their
messages. And we don'tunderstand that spirits been
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working with us since we werebabies. Since we were baby
spirit, there's probably beensomeone in our family who even
died before we were born, whohelped us get ready to be born,
and have been walking behind ussince we were in diapers. And
that spirit has been dropping ananswer to our questions before
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we even started the questionright into the right frame. And
so this spirit and all our otherspirits answer are us by putting
things into our right brain. Andthose messages come to us right,
so the right brain. And so butbecause we've been using the
right brain to pretend and toimagine, we think we're only
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imagining it. And so we are wethink we're making it up or
pretending. But we've got tostop that. We've got to stop
undermining what we get. Iwouldn't have a job if I did
that.
Right. Exactly. Well, and forthose that don't know, your
work, you are a trained Youngin.
Psychologists. So yeah. Yeah,the medium, of course. But I
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mean, on top of, on top of yourmediumistic gifts that you've
taught around the world, I mean,literally around the globe.
Several times over, you havethis background, also in
psychology, so you're able tospeak as That's right, you know,
exactly more of the scientificworkings of the brains and how
all of this makes perfect sense.
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I have a little bit of a strangequestion that I've just been
pondering recently, kind ofpersonally. I wonder if since we
have potentially many pastlives, are we able to connect
with spend time with have wisdomfrom people that were in our
ancestral bloodlines in otherlifetimes? who maybe were not
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part of our group in thislifetime?
Yes, but I want to, I want tojust pull back on the word
bloodlines. Because it might notbe biological are passe.
Interesting. Our past livesdon't only run from biological,
biological, biological,biological, we don't we don't
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reincarnate to the samebiological line every single
time we get reincarnate. So butwe are certainly we certainly
can meet our past life guidesfrom this life and that life and
the previous life to that andfrom 1000 years ago, when from
5000 years ago. I mean, theworld's been around a long time
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the human race has been a longtime. We've had hundreds of past
lives. So you have a lot of pastlife guides. Now. And of course,
consequently, we have a lot ofkarmic lessons too, right? If we
have a lot of past lives, wehave a lot of karmic lessons.
So, but we don't work on all ofour karmic lessons in each every
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life. I mean, that would be likegoing to college and taking
every single class they offer.
Right. So true. Right. But, butwe do certainly work on the ones
that are the most significant,and the ones that we have two,
that that are, that are the mostcompelling to us to really heal.
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And so the past life guides thatare in spirits still, that are
linked and connected to thethose karmic lessons that we
want to heal will certainly comeforward and help us with those
karmic lessons. Now, it is alsotrue that some of the past life,
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people, participants that werein those past lives may actually
be present in this life. So wemight be working on that with
them now. And they were there.
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Okay. So, so yes, so we could beworking on with past life people
in two different ways. One,actually,
I love that layer, too. Well, goahead. Yeah, cuz we're here. I
love that layer, too, because Iknow you've just you've talked
before and I know a lot of usknow that sometimes where
incarnating with some of thesame soul, some of the same
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people in differentrelationships and different. We
show up in different ways foreach other in different
lifetimes. So certainly, likeyou said, some of it may be
people that have incarnated withyou before who are also
incarnated with you now andothers may be people that you
were incarnated with, in thatlifetime, who can help to
understand I think what I hearyou saying is to understand a
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lesson that we're workingthrough in this lifetime, that
maybe they have someinformation, some guidance, some
assistance they can give us soin that way, they could be
really instrumental in us movinga little bit forward on our
path,very helpful, but doesn't always
have to be a lesson. Forinstance, there could be a
grandmother from a past life,who helped you with one of your
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children from a past life, andyou're having that child again.
And she could be an interestingchild again, this time. Okay. So
it might not have anything to dowith a lesson. It's not always
hard work. God help us I hopeit's true. So she might be
bringing this child again, andyou know, this blessing forward.
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So so there and there could becertainly a lover, a happy love
relations from up for ship froma past life, who is wanting to
help you find a lover and happylove relationship and this life.
So there's a lot of differenttypes of overlays that we have
from past lives to present.
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Yeah,it sounds like As with most of
this work, we're really onlylimited by our own creative
thinking as to who we couldengage with and for what topics,
right really is just whatever wecan come up with as like, oh,
let's try this. And I one of myfavorite things about your work,
just all around is thispermission to explore this
permission to just try it, justtry it and see just have an
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experience and see what what youunderstand from it.
That's right, because, um, andwe should also call our
ancestors or different types ofancestors, you know, in the
various places of our not justpast lives, not just healing,
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healing is a really bigimportant thing, healing
patterns, you know, ancestralhealing and karmic healing.
Those get mixed up a lot. Andsometimes we might get a little
bit confused with ISIS ancestralhealing is as karmic healing
and, and we don't want to gettoo confused with trying to name
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it. We just want to get heal, wejust want to heal it, you know,
because we certainly could havesome personal healing patterns
that are also global healingpatterns and ancestral healing
patterns, you know, so, but wedo want to work on those healing
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things. But we also want to justcall our ancestors for help in
our daily lives. Our financialdecisions are, you know, gee,
should I sell my house yet? Youknow, kind of things or, you
know, which job would be bestfor me because they're hanging
out, you know, and, and as youknow, spirit can see around the
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bend a time, just a littlebetter than we can. It's not
that it you can't, you can'tgive a life reading I can't
can't even to me can't even givea 10 year reading Otherwise,
there would be there would be,you know, no free will, you
know, everything would bepredestined, you know, right?
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Otherwise it so. So I mean,yeah, you can see the trends, I
mean, spirit can see around thebend at time, a couple of years,
they can see the trends and thetendencies and opportunities. So
you can ask them, and you canask them simple questions. And
they can give you simple, easy,they Spirit works with symbols a
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lot, you know, and so they cangive you really simple and easy
symbols. To give you someanswers. For instance, if you're
asking about a relationship, wecould do a quick little symbol
for relationship. Now if youwant to try that. Yeah, I would
love it. Let's do it. Soeverybody, close your eyes, and
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take a deep breath. And justrelax as you take another deep
breath and just invite yourspirit ancestors forward,
they're hanging out already,because they always are. But
they already were already. Sojust feel their loving embrace
there with you. And all of yourdifferent ancestors grandma and
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grandpa and the gang but yourwork ancestors and you know your
uncle who helped you pick outyour new car, even though he was
already dead? You didn't knowit, but but all of them the
whole gang is there. Okay. Sonow I want you to think about a
relationship in your life. Okay?
Now, it could be a relationshipthat you're having with someone
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else. Or it could be arelationship that you'd like,
and for me, no, take that back.
Think about a relationshipyou're having with someone else.
And it could be a relationshipthat you're having with your
boss. Or, I mean, it could be arelationship you have with your
mom or your dad or your sister,your brother. Any relationship,
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okay? It doesn't have to be aspousal type relation doesn't
have to be a romanticrelationship could be a
relationship about what you haveany questions or need a little
insight. Okay, just so you noneed to just ever relationship
that you'd like to get someguidance about. So take a deep
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breath and just hold the idea ofthis relationship, my
relationship with whomever,okay. And think about that
person. And now, Spirit is goingto bring to mind visually and
sensually spirits going to holdup in front of you a blanket,
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and this blanket represents thisrelationship. And I want you to
notice everything about theblanket. I want you to notice
the color it is I want you tonotice the texture it is I want
you to notice everything aboutit. Does it have tatters? Does
it fill holes? Is it soft? Is itwoolly and rough? Is it does it?
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Does it have any tatters? Doesit torn on the edges? How big is
it? Now spirits going to put theblanket around you? This is the
blanket of this relationship.
How does this blanket wraparound you? Does it wrap all the
way around you? Does it make youfeel warm? Is it itchy? What
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colors do you feel with it?
You've already seen the colorsHow did the colors feel? How
does the texture feel? Does itcover you enough to make you
feel warm and safe and easy? Howdo you feel about this
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relationship ring blanket? Whatdoes this blanket tell you about
this relationship? And justnotice everything that you
notice about the colors, thetextures, the feelings
everything. And let yourselftake a nice deep breath and
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thanking all of your ancestralguides and your spirit lovely
guides. Take another deep breathlet the blanket fall away from
you. And open your eyes asyou're ready to come back. What
did you get some insight aboutyour relationship?
I think I did. I actually chosemy relationship with one of my
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kids. My kids are adults. Um,and so as you know, as a mom,
our relationships shift with ourchildren when they move into
adulthood and yeah, so it was itwas, it was very cool. One of
the things I love about the waythat you work these exercises
with symbols is that it almosttakes the pressure off or the
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Panic of, oh, now I'm supposedto see a color, because we all
have some reference point for ablanket. And it's just whatever
shows up. So it almost takesthat fear charge off of when you
just tell someone, okay, you'regonna do an intuitive exercise,
and there's this resistance orthis panic. So I love the way
that you do that.
Yeah. Because, well, you know,people think that people fill
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their minds with expectations.
And, and they're even I'm surethat even some of the people who
were listening, or were saying,Oh, I'm supposed to say, a
blanket, what kind of blanket amI supposed to cry, you know,
that type of thing. But if youreally let yourself go, you'll
have the experience of theblanket, you know, but there's
so many. I mean, my book is fullof this full of coins for
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investments and real estatesigns and Monopoly board. I
mean, did you there's so manydifferent types of symbols that
spirit can use and, and theyplay with them, and they, they,
you know, they just fill them upand move them and and it's, if
we just give our right brainsover to spirit and trust
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everything they do with them, wecan, you know, get a very full
and complete message aboutabsolutely anything. And then,
you know, we can also do youknow, a lot of people say, Well,
what if I'm only creating theimage that I want to create, and
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we can do we can do somethingabout that as well. And it's an
old time spiritualist. I'm aspiritualist, Reverend and, and
church of the living spirit andLilydale. And, and, and it's
called billets, and which is aFrench word, I think that means
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tickets or paper, but I thinkit's ticket. And, and so what
you can do to keep your own headout of your questions is like,
if you have like four or threeor four or five different
questions or different topics,so you put you put, you'd like
it like index cards, and you putdown like my job and put an
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index card in an envelope, putmy job on that. And then you put
down my relationship and you putthat in an envelope and you put
down, you know, my move and youput down you know, and you put
all of those different things onan index are different things,
put them in different envelopes,and you seal the envelopes. And
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then you do with a sealedenvelope, you put them in your
hands, and you do a differentvisualization with H sealed
envelope. Okay, you write downthe visualization that you get
on the outside of the envelopeon a separate piece of paper.
And then you don't open theenvelopes until you've done the
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mall so that your head doesn'tknow which thing you're getting
the information about.
I love this I'm a big proponentof doing these type of
experiments with our intuitionwith you know, because then it
does take that element of humanmind of doubting ourselves out
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of it and it's you just get tohave this experience. Oh, thanks
for sharing that. That's a coolYeah,
it's fun. And you know whatreally fun fun thing to play.
When you're doing a meditationgroup or even at a party and
different people you just putyour name on the outside of the
art your initials or some kindof thing and you mix up the
envelopes and different peopledo put their readings on the
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outside of the envelopes andthey don't know whom they're
reading for.
Oh, that is really fun. I assureyou have so many fun Lilydale
with that party is full ofmediums and psychics and
sensitives and the games youguys come up with I'm sure it's
nominal. I have to say I have tosay if if you haven't been there
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give it a try because I haven'tI'd love to get there yeah yeah
it's the largest and oldestspiritualist town and community
in the world and there are manyplaces where you know you ask
somebody to come you hiresomebody to come paint your
house and they come in they havetheir you know, painting
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overalls and their ladders andeverything and they put
everything up on your porch and,and, and the two painting guys
some bend down on one knee Andthey invoke Spirits help with
the pain.
I love it. Why not? I mean, weclearly know they're masters
greater than us, right? Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. Are there anycommon mistakes that you find?
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When people are trying to dothis work and connect with their
ancestors in this way? Are thereany like things to watch out
for? For example? I mean, you'vejust given us some great ones.
Yeah, what the biggest, biggest,biggest mistake is not is first
of all, getting into the leftbrain with what's supposed to
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happen, what I'm not gettinganything, what am I supposed to
get, I don't know what I'msupposed to get. And, and the
biggest, and that happens,because they think they're
supposed to experience thingsvisually with their eyes, audio
ly with their ears, okay? Theseexperiences don't happen with
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physical senses. Spirit is notphysical, everything that's
spiritual is not physical, andwhatever's physical is not
spiritual. You know, those aretwo different worlds. And so you
shouldn't expect anything in thephysical arena. Now, there are
times where I'll get a cough,because Spirit had broken neck
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or cough, or whatever have you.
So that happens, and because I'mvery sensitive, but that's not
what you should expect. Okay.
All right. So, but the biggestbiggest mistake people have is
going into the left brain, andkeeping themselves out of the
right brain with their doubtsand expectations. You have to
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make yourself go into the rightbrain. And and so what happens
is all they hear themselvesthinking left brain doubts and
questions, and they can identifythat. And then they start
saying, Oh, I gotta go into theright brain. I gotta go in the
right brain. Well, that's a leftbrain. Yeah. So the only way you
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can go into the right brain doesto activate. And that's why it
created the door image, but youcan create any kind of image,
anything that activates theright brain will take you into
the right brain. And then thenext thing is trusting
everything that you get, notbelieving in what you get is, is
the is the next biggest mistake.
That actually probably the firstbiggest mistake, you know, even
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even professional mediums, youknow, we'll get something and
then hold their tongue. Yeah,and hold their tongue the whole
third time, because I'm stupid.
I don't know if this is right. Idon't know if I should say this,
you know, especially in publicmediumship when you're doing
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mediumship, which is a bigthing. And Lola Dale happens
all day long. Tapes and friendsthat are there. Yeah. Yeah.
And, and, and, you know, youcan't hold your tongue, you're
just, you get it, you get it.
So,yeah, well, I think that's where
there's something to be saidabout good training and
understanding that discernmentof you know, how to work with
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particularly like sensitiveinformation and how to interpret
it and then say it in a waythat's appropriate, or that
doesn't get, you know, sometimeswe know details and they don't
all necessarily need to bestated to say what's happening.
And there's, there is agentleness that needs to happen.
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You certainly have to havecertain discernment, especially
in public mediumship. Certainly,even public or private, I never
predict death. I never predict,oh, you know, I'm not a doctor,
I don't diagnose. You know,those types of things are not in
my wheelhouse. So I don't dothat, you know, so. But, yeah,
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certainly in public mediumship.
You don't say, oh, it's the guysitting next to your husband,
you're getting that type ofstuff.
But if someone is in a space,where they're, you know, having
experiences, they're doingmeditations, visualizations like
this, but they're, they'rehaving that bit of a hurdle,
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where they just are not findingtheir ability to trust
themselves, or they're receivingsigns in the world and then
doubting them, do you have anyguidance that or any particular
thing they can work on to kindof move through that place into
a place of okay, I'm just gonnasurrender and trust what I
receive, I think,actually, yes, there. They have
to work that they have to, thefirst thing you have to do to
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work through it is to workthrough it, you have to move
beyond and that's experience andgo into the next receptive state
and having it but there aredeclarations actually, there's a
number of different declareddeclarations in my book that
are, are about declaring yourabsolute connection and feeling
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your absolute connection to yourancestral spirit guides. And
when you have a sense of thosedeclarations, when you work with
those declarations, and thosedeclarations in the book, have a
little process with each one, sothat you can feel the
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declarative power with eachdeclaration. And then the
process immediately follows. Soyou can experience the power
that you felt with thedeclaration. And so it's a it's
a process that you stayed atmentally. And it's more than an
affirmation, I, in my book powerwords, it was important to me to
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take affirmations to a higherlevel. And that was to, to make
declare, declarations todeclare, to proclaim, not to
just affirm and, and so you inthis book, it didn't, you know,
you make declarations about yourconnection, your absolute
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connection, and then immediatelyfollowing that is this tiny,
little immediate, immediate,immediate response of connection
to spirit, so that you can havethat as a response to the
declaration. So it's, it'simmediate responsiveness. So
havingthat so great, and I'm so happy
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that you put that in the bookbecause I really feel like
anymore seems there are so fewresources like this for people
that are searching and seekingto have like a trustworthy,
almost like a guidebook of, youknow, if this then try this, if
this then try this. And I lovethat you give people permission
to understand that this is aprocess a journey, it's not, you
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know, the first time you try it,yes, you might have a profound
experience. But also it might beincredibly subtle, which is
probably much more likely and bea process over time that you get
to understand more about who'swho's coming through that door,
which ancestor it is what theemotion is that they're trying
to share. So I love that youreally highlight the journey of
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it as well.
Right? Yes, well, you know, whenI said you can have, you can, it
can either take a long time orcontent be right now. And it can
be right now. But then you haveto practice it being right now.
And you have to practice it andpractice it and practice. So the
practice of it being right nowdoes take a long time. So So
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yeah, it is that's the journey.
Yeah.
And it's good. I mean, becauseright now, they are all around
us at any time, just a thoughtaway, just a heartbeat away. I'm
also trained in the British,British and spiritualist
tradition of mediumship. So Ibelieve all of that the spirit
world is not a faraway place.
And we do have access to all ofour ancestors just either
through a visualizationtechnique, like you've given us
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incredible ones already in thisconversation, plus all the
delicious ones that are in thebook. But you know, once someone
doesn't need that visualizationanymore, they can just move
their awareness to who's joiningthem. I didn't ask you if I
could talk about this, but I'veheard you talk about it before.
So I'm hoping it's okay. You'veshared before that your second
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husband crossed over to thespirit world, and you have still
a very active partnership. Youyou guys were amazing partners
in life and then in thisdifferent relationship with Him
in the spirit side, you stillare able to have this
partnership experience. Wouldyou mind sharing a little bit
about how that is for you?
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Because I know several people,several of our listeners have
lost a significant person.
Yes, it's, it's really amazingto me, and so sad for me that so
many people don't carry on theirrelationships after their loved
ones die. It's, you know, mysecond husband, Rudy, and
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actually, just in the last year,my first husband Michael, who
was a really good friend to meand actually stood in my wedding
suit at my wedding in to mySeco. Yes. And was godfather to
our son, my son whatan incredible soul. Yeah. So,
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and I've been there, he's beencoming in. Since he passed two.
They both passed with cancerand, and so he a boat he, Rudy,
my second husband has been sohelpful to me. It when I have to
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do a workshop or when I havepreparation to do he was always
there for me. In the living andit's really kind of funny,
because when I have to do thatnow, I can say, oh my gosh,
Rudy, how am I getting all thisdone off to get that done? And
and then I kind of, I kind ofasked for his help and, and I
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kind of get an organizationalslots in my head. And I don't
know how that happens. And evenin the timeline, I think, where
am I get the time for this. AndI wake up in time, even though
wow, I set my clock for a littlelater so I can get more sleep. I
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wake up in time enough to do it.
It's like, holy cow. Well,thanks. You know, yeah, he's
drinking for, for sharing thattoo. Because I do think people
expect or assume how we'retalking about expectations can
be dangerous, they expect to seean apparition of that person
standing at their bedside,saying it's time to wake up. And
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it's not like that. And I thinkif people understood, you know,
as you are describing the waysit can be if people understood
the subtleties and the softnessof it, they would realize, oh,
no, this is already happening.
This is already a real part ofmy experience. I just thought it
was supposed to be somethingelse,
right? Yes. No, they don't standat the foot of your bed. They
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don't actually yes, no, and theydon't touch your shoulder. Not
typically, they just put theidea in your head, and they put
the help and the energy in yourmind and in your heart. And once
you start to have a relationshipwith them. Now, if you're
meditating, and you're doing avisualization, they'll give you
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the images like we've just beendoing. And you can count on them
that that is they who are doingthat. But But then, but as
you're going through life, ifyou ask a question, then the
idea of pop up or if you ask foran image, then they'll drop the
image in your mind. But But yes,no, it's it's quite a different
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story. It's like people, youknow, people expect it to be
like Hollywood movies. It's, youknow, a Nicolas Cage.
Yeah, definitely not. And Idon't know that we've what we
think we would want it to bethat way. But I don't know that.
I actually would I don't thinkI'd like that very much at all.
Now, I feel like there's someoverlap in I don't know, it's
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tough to put things in boxes, Ithink, which are human mind I
often wants to do for sorting,but I know that ancestors can
guide us. And I know that guidescan be ancestors. But is there
in your work. In yourperspective? Is there a clear
delineation between ancestorversus guide? Or are Is there a
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lot of overlap gray area, or allof the
above? To me, anybody who givesus guidance is a guide. Really,
if if they give us guidance,they're guides. They're guiding
us, right? So I know a lot ofpeople make distinctions between
spirit guides and ancestors. Andagain, because they're thinking
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of ancestors or It's grandma andgrandpa and that type of thing.
Yeah. But, but no. ancestors arealso the people who help you
write your book, the people whohelp you compose music, the
people who help you, with yourhealing tasks, the people who
help you with your psychicdevelopment. Those are your
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ancestors too. There's yourancestral spirit guides, because
they went before you in yourhistory of studying and working
with your psychic developmentand their psychic development.
And don't forget, and a lot ofpeople forget this. I can't
count the number of times whenI'm doing reading and I will see
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a higher guide like an AscendedMaster come to one of the people
that I'm one of my clients, and,and one of the grandmothers are
great grandmother's or somebodywill walk up and stand right
next to the the Ascended Master.
And the client will wonder Well,yeah, I know she went to church
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a lot, but why she with theAscended Masters? She doesn't
seem like a psychic person. Butthey don't remember that these
people had past lives too. Yeah.
And grandma might probablyworked in the ashram of the
Ascended Master. We don't forgetwe don't remember that our aunts
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and uncles and grandmothers andgrandfathers maybe it's all they
were they might not have everhad any ideological inkling, or
mental awareness of a history ofthat might have had a profound
history of that and onlyrecollected it once they passed,
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and had a memory of their pastlives. And so they might be even
closer to this Ascended Masterthan we are. And so we should
not be diminishing our, ourbiological ancestors by any
measure whatsoever. So becausethey work with them, as we do.
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And so they are our guides to soeven when no matter what their
their past life history is,well, you make so many good
points, not only, like youmentioned, do we not know the
entire past life history ofsomeone mean, we may have
crossed paths with in thislifetime. But certainly, as you
mentioned, earlier on in ourchat, if someone's in
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government, if someone's infinance, of course, there are
going to be ancestors of thatlineage of that tradition of
that study that are taking aninterest steal, if someone's a
scientist or an inventor, or,you know, profound musician, of
course, there are musicalprodigies that have come before
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that are going to want toinspire support, facilitate, you
know, do their part of theenergy to continue that work in
some way doesn't mean becausethey've crossed over to the
other side, suddenly, they areall love and light and have no
interest in, you know, thishuman side or in the work
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anymore. They still areinterest,
right? Absolutely. As a matterof fact, I It's you wouldn't be
surprised the world would be sosurprised at how frustrated this
those in Spirit are. They triedto talk to us, our you know,
grandmas and grandpas certainlytried to talk to us and, and the
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writers who are, you know,floating into the spirit world,
and they see our beacons oflight, and we're writing it,
they want to say, Okay, put thisin there, put that there and no,
no, take that chapter out, youknow, that type of thing. And
they want to roll up anewspaper. And I mean, think of
how frustrating it would be foreach of us to well, it doesn't
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happen anymore, because phone,phones don't get busy signals
anymore. If you tried to callsomebody and never got through,
ever, that's what the spiritworld experiences when they try
to make a direct phone call tomost of the physical world.
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nobody's answering but themediums. What percentage of the
world is that? Did you did? Didanybody teeny? Yes. Sad. So many
people want to talk to theirloved one. So many writers want
to talk to the writers. So manybusiness, people want to talk to
the business people. So manyquantum physicists want to talk
(53:15):
to the quantum physicists, forsure. Heck, nothing's happening.
They're throwing their arms upand saying, holy cow, when are
they gonna get it? That's what.
And so I just think they havesuch a different vantage point
on the other side that they cansee more clearly, the
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interconnectedness here, andthe, what I often perceive as
the ripple of our, you know,every choice that we make now,
how you were saying, you know, a10 year prediction is not
necessarily possible, becauseit's the potentials of what
could happen based on choiceswe're making here and now that
then open up and potentially anew segment of our map, so to
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speak, right, we, you know,it's, it always reminds me of
those, it's a little oldfashioned, but those choose your
own ending books, where it'slike, you know, you're at the
bridge, do you want to go to inthe door? Or do you want to take
the trolley, you know, so it'skind of is how it is for us? Our
choices that we're in it is forme, I know, You've spoken on
this extensively and taught onit. It is this connection
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between our freewill and thepart of our life that's not pre
determined. And the things thatwe do, perhaps agree beforehand
that we're going to experiencebut they don't have to
necessarily show up in a certainkind of way. Do you know what I
mean?
Right, exactly. We do makecontracts to meet certain people
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and perhaps even at certaintimes, but we and we do probably
make contracts to try to workon, you know, certain karmic
lessons. But whether or not wemade those karmic lessons,
whether or not we follow throughwith with what we're supposed to
be doing, you know that It's allfree, well, that's all free
(55:02):
well, and so, you know, it's allbased on then this is the most
important spirit relationship,and it's based on whether or not
we find our own spirit, and meetour own spirit and say, Hey,
this is, this is an importantvoice to find. And this is an
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important voice to, to, to makereal in the world. And, and
let's do this.
And I love that the underpinningof all of your work like so many
spiritualists and mediums andpeople in this work is about the
empowerment of the individual inthis lifetime in this here and
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now experience. And rather thanit, you know, of course, there
are lots of amazing parts of thespiritual work but really
empowering people that Okay, nowthat you know that you are in
are connected, and that you cantalk to everyone, what are you
now empowered to do to live yourbest life right now or the life
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you choose to live right now?
They love that that's such apart of why we're even talking
to the ancestors. Right?
Right, right. Yeah, but youknow, a lot of people have a lot
of healing to do, we really,really get stuck in our
patterns. You know, like I said,before, you know, karmic healing
and ancestral healing have a bigoverlap. As a matter of fact, I
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have a new workbook, theconnection of karmic and
ancestral healing, it's actuallyfree on my website, Sharon
klingler.com. So if you go to mywebsite, page, it's on my
homepage, Sharon klingler.com,it's got a lot of new processes
(56:58):
and journaling work that you cando to try to get out of the
patterns. We live, relive, andrelive and relive and relive and
relive our patterns in our mind.
And, and we hold ourselves back,and we have to break out of
those self made prisons, youknow, but we can do that, we can
do that with the right work. Andwe can do that with the help of
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our ancestors. And, and so wecan invoke the help of our
ancestors with that. So if yougo to Sharon klingler.com, on
our on my homepage page, you'llfind out how to get that free
workbook, the connection ofkarmic and ancestral healing.
Oh, that's soexciting. I will definitely link
it in the show notes. Andeverywhere that you find this
(57:44):
you can, you'll be able to findthe links, it's so timely, and
it's such necessary work for usto be doing that introspection
so we can recognize that lightwithin and do the healing that
we need to do. I'm I wish we hadmore time to dive into it. But I
love that you brought this upbecause for anyone, which I
believe is everyone who canidentify any patterns of
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behavior patterns of thoughtpatterns of, you know, you seem
to keep recreating similarrelationships, and you don't
understand why Sharon has a freetool for us. It's gonna help us
start diving in, which is sogenerous that you're willing to
share that. So thank you so muchfor that resource. For sure. Are
you up for a bit of a change ofgears? I have these four
(58:29):
questions the spirit speedround, and I would love to hear
your off the cuff answers tothat up for that. Sure. Okay,
exciting. Okay, so question one,share one thing that really
shocked you, or was unexpectedabout your personal spiritual
gifts as a medium or as apsychic, whatever you like. It
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was kind of shocking orunexpected about your own gift.
How bold I was, when I finallylearned how to do it. I'm I got
to the point where I didn't carewhat anybody was thinking about
me.
I really wow, is that differentthan what you were before?
(59:12):
I'm gonna say. And that's reallyactually when when I had the
breakthrough, that's what Ineeded to actually to have the
breakthrough of trustingeverything. Wow, I love and, and
and was my breakthrough at thesame time.
It's pretty incredible. Okay,question two. If you've got to
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spend a whole day in the spiritworld, you got the full tour got
to spend time with all of yourancestors plus everyone who you
have ever known that you want tospend time with. And it's almost
time for you to return to yourlife here. And your guide tells
you you have one hour left andyou can spend it with anyone
who's on the other side that youwant. Who do you choose and why?
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It would have to be two It wouldbe Jesus and Buddha. And, and
actually, I would choose themboth for the same reason.
Because before I would want tocome back, I would want to try
(01:00:18):
to absorb, suck all of theirpeace and compassion and wisdom
and compassionate love as Icould possibly get before I go
(01:00:42):
back here. Wow, that'sa beautiful answer. I love it.
Okay, this one's a littledifferent pace. Even though we
have the spiritual gifts, wehave very human lives. What is
one quirky thing about you thatpeople might be surprised to
learn?
I'm obsessive compulsive.
Everything, pretty much has tobe in its place. Although it
(01:01:08):
doesn't seem like that. Now,I've been too busy to this
place. And I buy a lot of bedclothes, bed linens, and rugs.
That's my motto money on.
(01:01:28):
Pillow. It's interesting thethings that we're drawn to two,
that's kind of a cool, quirkything. So you always have cozy
bedding is what it sounds likeover there. If you would leave
us with one pearl of wisdom,what's one piece of advice that
you wish that you had had earlyon in your understanding of your
gifts?
(01:01:56):
I wish I understood earlier. Notto care what people think. The
thing that made me bold came toolate. But it's here now. But I
wish I'd gotten that earlier.
Don't count people think it putsyou into your left brain. It
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puts you into your judgement ofyourself. Stop judging yourself.
Stop caring what people thinkthat doesn't mean stop caring
about people. It means stopcaring about judgment.
Wow, that's a really that is apearl of wisdom. That's some
(01:02:36):
great advice. And I think theearlier that anyone can take
that on board, the better fortheir journey. Well, thank you
so much for being with us today.
For so generously, sharing yourwisdom and your light, it has
been a delight to talk to you.
And of course, we can find yournewest book, which we've just
(01:02:57):
been talking about the answersfrom the ancestral realms is
available and I'm going to putthat link, you can find it
sharing klingler.com There's alink there. And you can also
find it at Star Bringer.
associates.com. But we'll have alink in the show notes. I did
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(01:03:19):
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(01:03:40):
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And you can get the book and getthat extra bonus gifts.
Wow, that's amazing. And don'tworry, we'll have a link in the
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that down, just check out theshow notes. And I'll have all of
those links. Don't miss thosegifts. Because like I mentioned
at the top, Sharon has beendoing this work and sharing it
(01:04:01):
globally for a really long time.
So don't miss those treats. Andthis book is just a wealth of
information and an incredibleresource. So thank you for
taking the time to put it intothe world and taking the time to
have this conversation with ustoday. Thanks for being here,
Sharon.
Thank you joy.
(01:04:21):
Thanks for sharing your light.
What an incredible conversationwith Sharon and Klingler. I am
still processing everything thatwe talked about. I got to ask
some really specific questions,which I was excited about. And
like I said, I'm still kind ofprocessing the information.
Those exercises. I didn't expecther to spontaneously spring into
(01:04:44):
two visualization exercises withus. So how cool if you haven't
had a chance to get the bookalready. I would highly
encourage you to because it'sjust an incredible resource tool
gives lot So I have examples andexercises and tips and tricks.
So of course, that link will bein the show notes as well as on
(01:05:09):
my website joyfulmedium.com/blog. You can find
the full video, the fulltranscript, plus all the links,
you want to check out this bookanswers from the ancestral
realm. And don't miss those freebonuses don't sleep on all of
these free offerings that comealong with this book, all of the
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teachings and meditations andlessons that she's sharing just
as free gifts alone. Plus, I'llput a link to her website where
she was talking about theprocess to break through
patterns or to understand ourpatterns to heal patterns, right
on the homepage of her website.
So I'll put the link to Sharonklingler.com Because you're
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going to want to get thatresource. Thank you for being
here with me today. My mind is alittle bit blown. Because I've
been following Sharon's work formany years now we have several
friends in common as well. So Ihope you really enjoy this
conversation. What a treat suchan incredible way to set
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ourselves up for the rest ofthis year. Thanks for being here
with me inside the spiritspeakeasy I hope that you enjoy
this let me know your experiencewith a book or with these
exercises that she gave usduring this talk. I'm so curious
to hear your experiences andanything that you got or learned
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Hey beautiful soul Welcome tospirits speakeasy. I'm Joy
Giovanni joyful medium. I'm aworking psychic medium energy
healer and spiritual giftsmentor. This podcast is like a
seat at the table in a secretclub, but with mediums, mystics
and the spiritual luminaries ofour time. So come behind the
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velvet ropes with me and seeinside my world is I chat
insider style with profoundlydifferent souls. We go deep
share juicy stories laugh a lotand it wouldn't be a speakeasy
without great insider secretsand tips. You might even learn
that you have some gifts of yourown. So step inside the spirit
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speakeasy. Hey, beautiful soul,I am joyful, medium Joy Giovanni
and this is spirit speakeasy. Inour conversation today, we get
the honor to speak with Sharonand Klingler. She has an
incredible psychic medium, butalso an international teacher,
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and speaker and best sellingauthor, which is one of the
things that we really dive intotoday, her new book, answers
from the ancestral realm. And wereally get into questions like
what's the difference betweenancestors and guides. And she
also goes into this explanationof what our ancestors actually
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are, who they are, what anancestor means. And it might not
be exactly what you think thedefinition might surprise you a
little bit, but it is so coolthe way that she perceives it
the way that she explains it andall of the exercises in this
book, it is quickly becoming oneof my top resources for clients
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wanting to just have someexercises and some experiences
and a place to start diving intothe work for themselves. She's
so generous in not onlyspontaneously diving into two
different visualizationexercises to answer different
questions in this episodeitself, but she shares a free
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resource that she has on herwebsite for anyone who's
recognizing patterns in theirlife and their behavior patterns
that they're just not seeming tobreak. So she's got a free
resource for you for that. Soyou won't want to miss that.
There is so much in thisconversation. I'm hoping that
listening to it really helpsopen your perspective. Maybe it
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validates some things thatyou've already been feeling or
sensing or knowing deep withinyourself some different ways of
thinking of ancestors and guidesand our connection to them. And
I've been a fan of Sharon's workfor a really long time. And she
is just a wealth of knowledgeand information and experience
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and I'm so excited to share thisconversation with you. And don't
miss the show notes because allthe important links are there or
you can also find them on mywebsite joyful medium.com/blog
Because I don't want you to missout on all of these incredible
resources that she talks aboutduring this episode. So let's
dive in. Hey, I am Joy Giovannijoyful medium and you are inside
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the spirit speakeasy. Our guesttoday is very special. So I'm
going to read her bio because Iwant to get right to talking to
her. Today we have with usSharon and Klingler. Sharon is
one of the world's leadingintuitive she's a psychic
medium, but she's also workedwith television anchors film
writers, producers Emmy TonyOscar Grammy winners, the FBI
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members of Congress and reallyhigh profile clients around the
world. Her books have beeninternational best sellers on
three continents. And she's beenfeatured on The Oprah Winfrey
net Oprah Winfrey Network BBCLondon and Scotland and the
Discovery Channel and all thesemajor outlets across the globe.
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And Sharon's even a registeredmedium in Lilydale, which is in
New York and an ordainedspiritualist minister and she
still has a practice doingreadings and in her readings,
you'll find that Sharon reallygives profound experiences to
her clients and helps themunderstand guides loved ones in
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the spirit world and themessages that they bring for our
lives. Today Sharon is going toshare with us about her newest
book answers from the ancestralrealms which is now available.
welcome Sharon I'm so happy tohave you here.
Thank you so much joy and thankyou so much for having me on
your program. I really reallyappreciate that. And I totally
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love love love the name of yourpodcast spirit speakeasy it
because they that's, that'sreally like one of my mottos. I
mean, speaking easily to spiritis people don't understand. It's
not some kind of jump through amillion hoops practice for a
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million years. You know, whatwas it the I love what the Dalai
Lama said about enlightenment.
And enlightenment takes a longtime, unless it doesn't. Because
literally, you can haveenlightenment like this. Or you
could just go through all ofthese machinations and your
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traumas and dramas and, or youcan't wake up, you know, and
that's the same with speaking tospirit, you, you could get it,
you could get it and you can getit now. And it's that easy. Or
you can make it really hard foryourself. And you can doubt no
good question. And you can throwblocks in your way. Or you can
just open yourself to yourimaging side of the brain, and
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you can get it. And peoplereally don't understand how easy
it is. And that's really one ofone of the important pieces that
I What motivated me to writethis book. So yes,
I love that you have thisphilosophy too, of making it so
accessible, I shared with youright before we popped on, I've
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been a fan of your work foryears, you at one point had a
radio show with your sister, andI used to listen to you guys
regularly. She's also anintuitive medium, and happens to
be your twin, which is so cool.
And a lot of your work at thattime you're focusing on, you
know, not just mediumship, butalso past lives. And I love how
now you've moved it into talkingabout, you know, the ancestral
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realms and how it really isavailable to everyone. You don't
have to, you know, of course, wewant to pursue more training so
that we can advance in our workand our own development and our
own, you know, whatever we wantto express in the world as
divine creators, but it's simplethat anyone their first day can
have access to this. Right,right,
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exactly. And that's actually oneof the might my most joyful
things about this book is myniece gave it to a friend of
hers who actually would neverhave even thought about talking
to her family or that type ofthing. And it wasn't even on her
radar. And she, you know, shetold me after just reading the
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the first second chapter, shesaid, I didn't realize that they
were here, I didn't realize howeasy it was to talk to them. And
it opened up this world to me, Ididn't know these people were
here. And I didn't know that Iactually had it inside me to do
it. And on the other hand, I'vehad professional mediums call me
who have been mediums fordecades. And say, Sharon,
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there's techniques in this bookthat I never knew about that,
you know, never occurred to methat take seconds and just
flipped me right into the spiritworld. I mean it just so I
really, really am delighted tofind that this is helping
newbies as well as really oldtimers like me. So
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well, I make a great point.
Because the truth is that thereare all different ways to tap
into the other side, it's notsome faraway place, and you give
so many tips and tools and easyto understand walkthroughs of
these techniques. But one of myfavorite things about the book
is the way that you define orredefine what the ancestors
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actually are. For us. It's notjust people who you are blood
related to in this time. Can youtalk a little bit of I don't
want give any spoilers about thebook?
No, that's okay. That's veryokay. Because that's an
important thing for people tounderstand. Most of the world
thinks and appropriately sothat, that their ancestors are
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their grandmas and greatgrandfathers and, and that type
of thing. And of course, thosepeople are your ancestors. But
the word ancestors means thosewho have gone before. So it's
everybody who has gone before invarious parts of our world. For
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instance, those who have gonebefore in government, you know,
our founding fathers are theancestors to those who are in
Washington DC trying to pull ourgovernment back together again.
Now, those are our ancestralgovernors, and those who gave us
governance then, or theancestors to those who are
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giving us government governancenow, and, and financiers, those
who are in the financialdistrict. Those who went before
in finance are there ancestors,you know, for instance, the
great financers of of, you know,the great magnets of you know,
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Rockefeller and Pierpont Morgan,you know, and all of the great
financers, from, from 100 yearsago, there are the ancestors of
the financers. Now, and so weall of us can tune into, if
we're a book writer, we can tuneinto the writers who have gone
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before. And we do, and even ifwe don't even intentionally do
it, for instance, if, if you'rewriting a book, and you're not
even a medium, and you're notcalling out to spirit, your
energies of writing a book, gointo your aura, and their aura
goes out into the ethers. Andthat aura acts as a beacon. And
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other book writers, those whohave gone before into spirit,
say, Oh, she's writing a book.
And oh, look, it's these colors.
And those colors. That's thekind of writing that I like, or
that's the type of subject thatI like, I'm going to go play,
I'm going to go help, I'm goingto go work. And so we attract to
us, the four runners, the fourrunners or ancestors who have
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worked on books before, and theyhelp us and even if we don't
even know it, they drop ideasinto our right brain. And we'll
get the idea, even if we thinkit's our own idea. And if we
don't meditate and start to talkto them, that's how the only way
they can help us except formaybe in our dreams, too.
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And I love that you talk aboutyou know that we can attract
ancestors guides, helpers,inspirers, just based on our
openness on what we're workingon what we're trying to put
forward. And they'll help useven if we don't know, on a
conscious level, that we'reengaging with them, what's an
easy way for someone, you know,to start channeling for writing,
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or just to start playing withthis energy, if they're brand
new, and just wanting to getstarted? What do you think, a
good suggestion for them? Well,as I say, in the book, you have
to really keep it very simple,you first of all, there's just a
really a couple of steps, youinvite the ancestors. And
really, the invitation is kindof a redundancy, because they're
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already hanging out with you,you know, we tell everybody, we
have a lot less privacy than wethink. Because Spirit comes,
comes right through the wallsand says Hi, you know, you know,
my son used to wake up in themiddle of night and say, Mommy,
the people in the living roomare making too much noise, I
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can't sleep. You know, so theycome around, but the invitation
also acts as centering focus ofintention for you. So when you
sent forth the invitation, itcenters your intention, I'm
going to talk to spirit now. Andthen you open your right brain,
you activate your right brain.
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And you can do that with avisualization. Or you could just
do that with a thought. But Ilike to do with a visualization.
Some people don't see things,but they can visualize
conceptional conceptually, forinstance, if I were to say, see
a red apple, you don't see it,you would actually conceptualize
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it in your mind. So I tellpeople when they're just getting
started to imagine a door, andthen once you imagine the door,
see, imagine that door open andsee one of your ancestors come
through the door. And it mightbe an ancestor that you know,
and it might not be an ancestorthat you know, but whatever
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happens, let it happen, and justsee who comes through. And then
the final thing is to just trusteverything that happens.
Yeah, so I think the biggestthing I think, right, we get in
our own way,right? So yeah, so so if you're
fine, I mean, everybody can dothis right now if you want to do
that everybody just close youreyes for just a couple minutes
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just a second here. Close youreyes. And and just just turn on
your right brain. Just take adeep breath and relax and turn
on your right brain that's wherespirit talks to you and spirits
shows you everything they needto show you and invite spirit
forward and start to feel theirloving energy don't expect
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anything, just let it happen.
And with another deep breathjust imagine a door just see it
sense it feel it however it isthat you get it and as you sense
or see the Door, allow it tojust open up as it would open,
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perhaps slowly, maybe even here,a little creek at the hinge. And
as the door opens, one of yourancestors steps right through to
you, and steps right up to you,and perhaps even embraces you,
and let yourself see and senseand feel and know that ancestor,
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whoever that is, and trustexactly everything that you get.
And let this ancestor while thisancestor is with you right now,
just give you an image or a wordthat acts as a message to you
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could be a symbol could be acolor, or just a word. And feel
the embrace of love. And maybeyou feel other ancestors coming
through the door between behindhim or her. That's okay, you
might feel a whole gathering ofall bunch of ancestors, let that
happen. Let yourself feel all ofthe things that you feel with
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this ancestor or the otherancestors that gather around
you. And if you get anotherimage or word, let that happen
to now take a deep, happybreath. And say thank you to
this ancestor, trustingeverything that happened for you
start to bring yourself back andbring yourself back and open
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your eyes again. Wow, whata cool, simple exercise. That's
so simple, simple. It's thatsimple. But you know, the sad
part is people don't met let itbe that simple. Now they say, I
only imagining it, I must bemaking it up. Because they don't
realize that we have two partsof the brain, the left parietal
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lobe, which is where we do math,where we observe where we judge
and measure now judging andmeasure is the egos domain,
okay? That's all ego still selfstuff. But the right brain is
where spirit where we image. Andthat's where spirit drops their
messages. And we don'tunderstand that spirits been
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working with us since we werebabies. Since we were baby
spirit, there's probably beensomeone in our family who even
died before we were born, whohelped us get ready to be born,
and have been walking behind ussince we were in diapers. And
that spirit has been dropping ananswer to our questions before
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we even started the questionright into the right frame. And
so this spirit and all our otherspirits answer are us by putting
things into our right brain. Andthose messages come to us right,
so the right brain. And so butbecause we've been using the
right brain to pretend and toimagine, we think we're only
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imagining it. And so we are wethink we're making it up or
pretending. But we've got tostop that. We've got to stop
undermining what we get. Iwouldn't have a job if I did
that.
Right. Exactly. Well, and forthose that don't know, your
work, you are a trained Youngin.
Psychologists. So yeah. Yeah,the medium, of course. But I
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mean, on top of, on top of yourmediumistic gifts that you've
taught around the world, I mean,literally around the globe.
Several times over, you havethis background, also in
psychology, so you're able tospeak as That's right, you know,
exactly more of the scientificworkings of the brains and how
all of this makes perfect sense.
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I have a little bit of a strangequestion that I've just been
pondering recently, kind ofpersonally. I wonder if since we
have potentially many pastlives, are we able to connect
with spend time with have wisdomfrom people that were in our
ancestral bloodlines in otherlifetimes? who maybe were not
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part of our group in thislifetime?
Yes, but I want to, I want tojust pull back on the word
bloodlines. Because it might notbe biological are passe.
Interesting. Our past livesdon't only run from biological,
biological, biological,biological, we don't we don't
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reincarnate to the samebiological line every single
time we get reincarnate. So butwe are certainly we certainly
can meet our past life guidesfrom this life and that life and
the previous life to that andfrom 1000 years ago, when from
5000 years ago. I mean, theworld's been around a long time
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the human race has been a longtime. We've had hundreds of past
lives. So you have a lot of pastlife guides. Now. And of course,
consequently, we have a lot ofkarmic lessons too, right? If we
have a lot of past lives, wehave a lot of karmic lessons.
So, but we don't work on all ofour karmic lessons in each every
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life. I mean, that would be likegoing to college and taking
every single class they offer.
Right. So true. Right. But, butwe do certainly work on the ones
that are the most significant,and the ones that we have two,
that that are, that are the mostcompelling to us to really heal.
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And so the past life guides thatare in spirits still, that are
linked and connected to thethose karmic lessons that we
want to heal will certainly comeforward and help us with those
karmic lessons. Now, it is alsotrue that some of the past life,
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people, participants that werein those past lives may actually
be present in this life. So wemight be working on that with
them now. And they were there.
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Okay. So, so yes, so we could beworking on with past life people
in two different ways. One,actually,
I love that layer, too. Well, goahead. Yeah, cuz we're here. I
love that layer, too, because Iknow you've just you've talked
before and I know a lot of usknow that sometimes where
incarnating with some of thesame soul, some of the same
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people in differentrelationships and different. We
show up in different ways foreach other in different
lifetimes. So certainly, likeyou said, some of it may be
people that have incarnated withyou before who are also
incarnated with you now andothers may be people that you
were incarnated with, in thatlifetime, who can help to
understand I think what I hearyou saying is to understand a
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lesson that we're workingthrough in this lifetime, that
maybe they have someinformation, some guidance, some
assistance they can give us soin that way, they could be
really instrumental in us movinga little bit forward on our
path,very helpful, but doesn't always
have to be a lesson. Forinstance, there could be a
grandmother from a past life,who helped you with one of your
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children from a past life, andyou're having that child again.
And she could be an interestingchild again, this time. Okay. So
it might not have anything to dowith a lesson. It's not always
hard work. God help us I hopeit's true. So she might be
bringing this child again, andyou know, this blessing forward.
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So so there and there could becertainly a lover, a happy love
relations from up for ship froma past life, who is wanting to
help you find a lover and happylove relationship and this life.
So there's a lot of differenttypes of overlays that we have
from past lives to present.
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Yeah,it sounds like As with most of
this work, we're really onlylimited by our own creative
thinking as to who we couldengage with and for what topics,
right really is just whatever wecan come up with as like, oh,
let's try this. And I one of myfavorite things about your work,
just all around is thispermission to explore this
permission to just try it, justtry it and see just have an
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experience and see what what youunderstand from it.
That's right, because, um, andwe should also call our
ancestors or different types ofancestors, you know, in the
various places of our not justpast lives, not just healing,
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healing is a really bigimportant thing, healing
patterns, you know, ancestralhealing and karmic healing.
Those get mixed up a lot. Andsometimes we might get a little
bit confused with ISIS ancestralhealing is as karmic healing
and, and we don't want to gettoo confused with trying to name
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it. We just want to get heal, wejust want to heal it, you know,
because we certainly could havesome personal healing patterns
that are also global healingpatterns and ancestral healing
patterns, you know, so, but wedo want to work on those healing
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things. But we also want to justcall our ancestors for help in
our daily lives. Our financialdecisions are, you know, gee,
should I sell my house yet? Youknow, kind of things or, you
know, which job would be bestfor me because they're hanging
out, you know, and, and as youknow, spirit can see around the
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bend a time, just a littlebetter than we can. It's not
that it you can't, you can'tgive a life reading I can't
can't even to me can't even givea 10 year reading Otherwise,
there would be there would be,you know, no free will, you
know, everything would bepredestined, you know, right?
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Otherwise it so. So I mean,yeah, you can see the trends, I
mean, spirit can see around thebend at time, a couple of years,
they can see the trends and thetendencies and opportunities. So
you can ask them, and you canask them simple questions. And
they can give you simple, easy,they Spirit works with symbols a
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lot, you know, and so they cangive you really simple and easy
symbols. To give you someanswers. For instance, if you're
asking about a relationship, wecould do a quick little symbol
for relationship. Now if youwant to try that. Yeah, I would
love it. Let's do it. Soeverybody, close your eyes, and
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take a deep breath. And justrelax as you take another deep
breath and just invite yourspirit ancestors forward,
they're hanging out already,because they always are. But
they already were already. Sojust feel their loving embrace
there with you. And all of yourdifferent ancestors grandma and
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grandpa and the gang but yourwork ancestors and you know your
uncle who helped you pick outyour new car, even though he was
already dead? You didn't knowit, but but all of them the
whole gang is there. Okay. Sonow I want you to think about a
relationship in your life. Okay?
Now, it could be a relationshipthat you're having with someone
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else. Or it could be arelationship that you'd like,
and for me, no, take that back.
Think about a relationshipyou're having with someone else.
And it could be a relationshipthat you're having with your
boss. Or, I mean, it could be arelationship you have with your
mom or your dad or your sister,your brother. Any relationship,
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okay? It doesn't have to be aspousal type relation doesn't
have to be a romanticrelationship could be a
relationship about what you haveany questions or need a little
insight. Okay, just so you noneed to just ever relationship
that you'd like to get someguidance about. So take a deep
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breath and just hold the idea ofthis relationship, my
relationship with whomever,okay. And think about that
person. And now, Spirit is goingto bring to mind visually and
sensually spirits going to holdup in front of you a blanket,
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and this blanket represents thisrelationship. And I want you to
notice everything about theblanket. I want you to notice
the color it is I want you tonotice the texture it is I want
you to notice everything aboutit. Does it have tatters? Does
it fill holes? Is it soft? Is itwoolly and rough? Is it does it?
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Does it have any tatters? Doesit torn on the edges? How big is
it? Now spirits going to put theblanket around you? This is the
blanket of this relationship.
How does this blanket wraparound you? Does it wrap all the
way around you? Does it make youfeel warm? Is it itchy? What
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colors do you feel with it?
You've already seen the colorsHow did the colors feel? How
does the texture feel? Does itcover you enough to make you
feel warm and safe and easy? Howdo you feel about this
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relationship ring blanket? Whatdoes this blanket tell you about
this relationship? And justnotice everything that you
notice about the colors, thetextures, the feelings
everything. And let yourselftake a nice deep breath and
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thanking all of your ancestralguides and your spirit lovely
guides. Take another deep breathlet the blanket fall away from
you. And open your eyes asyou're ready to come back. What
did you get some insight aboutyour relationship?
I think I did. I actually chosemy relationship with one of my
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kids. My kids are adults. Um,and so as you know, as a mom,
our relationships shift with ourchildren when they move into
adulthood and yeah, so it was itwas, it was very cool. One of
the things I love about the waythat you work these exercises
with symbols is that it almosttakes the pressure off or the
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Panic of, oh, now I'm supposedto see a color, because we all
have some reference point for ablanket. And it's just whatever
shows up. So it almost takesthat fear charge off of when you
just tell someone, okay, you'regonna do an intuitive exercise,
and there's this resistance orthis panic. So I love the way
that you do that.
Yeah. Because, well, you know,people think that people fill
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their minds with expectations.
And, and they're even I'm surethat even some of the people who
were listening, or were saying,Oh, I'm supposed to say, a
blanket, what kind of blanket amI supposed to cry, you know,
that type of thing. But if youreally let yourself go, you'll
have the experience of theblanket, you know, but there's
so many. I mean, my book is fullof this full of coins for
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investments and real estatesigns and Monopoly board. I
mean, did you there's so manydifferent types of symbols that
spirit can use and, and theyplay with them, and they, they,
you know, they just fill them upand move them and and it's, if
we just give our right brainsover to spirit and trust
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everything they do with them, wecan, you know, get a very full
and complete message aboutabsolutely anything. And then,
you know, we can also do youknow, a lot of people say, Well,
what if I'm only creating theimage that I want to create, and
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we can do we can do somethingabout that as well. And it's an
old time spiritualist. I'm aspiritualist, Reverend and, and
church of the living spirit andLilydale. And, and, and it's
called billets, and which is aFrench word, I think that means
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tickets or paper, but I thinkit's ticket. And, and so what
you can do to keep your own headout of your questions is like,
if you have like four or threeor four or five different
questions or different topics,so you put you put, you'd like
it like index cards, and you putdown like my job and put an
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index card in an envelope, putmy job on that. And then you put
down my relationship and you putthat in an envelope and you put
down, you know, my move and youput down you know, and you put
all of those different things onan index are different things,
put them in different envelopes,and you seal the envelopes. And
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then you do with a sealedenvelope, you put them in your
hands, and you do a differentvisualization with H sealed
envelope. Okay, you write downthe visualization that you get
on the outside of the envelopeon a separate piece of paper.
And then you don't open theenvelopes until you've done the
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mall so that your head doesn'tknow which thing you're getting
the information about.
I love this I'm a big proponentof doing these type of
experiments with our intuitionwith you know, because then it
does take that element of humanmind of doubting ourselves out
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of it and it's you just get tohave this experience. Oh, thanks
for sharing that. That's a coolYeah,
it's fun. And you know whatreally fun fun thing to play.
When you're doing a meditationgroup or even at a party and
different people you just putyour name on the outside of the
art your initials or some kindof thing and you mix up the
envelopes and different peopledo put their readings on the
(34:07):
outside of the envelopes andthey don't know whom they're
reading for.
Oh, that is really fun. I assureyou have so many fun Lilydale
with that party is full ofmediums and psychics and
sensitives and the games youguys come up with I'm sure it's
nominal. I have to say I have tosay if if you haven't been there
(34:29):
give it a try because I haven'tI'd love to get there yeah yeah
it's the largest and oldestspiritualist town and community
in the world and there are manyplaces where you know you ask
somebody to come you hiresomebody to come paint your
house and they come in they havetheir you know, painting
(34:49):
overalls and their ladders andeverything and they put
everything up on your porch and,and, and the two painting guys
some bend down on one knee Andthey invoke Spirits help with
the pain.
I love it. Why not? I mean, weclearly know they're masters
greater than us, right? Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. Are there anycommon mistakes that you find?
(35:12):
When people are trying to dothis work and connect with their
ancestors in this way? Are thereany like things to watch out
for? For example? I mean, you'vejust given us some great ones.
Yeah, what the biggest, biggest,biggest mistake is not is first
of all, getting into the leftbrain with what's supposed to
(35:33):
happen, what I'm not gettinganything, what am I supposed to
get, I don't know what I'msupposed to get. And, and the
biggest, and that happens,because they think they're
supposed to experience thingsvisually with their eyes, audio
ly with their ears, okay? Theseexperiences don't happen with
(35:57):
physical senses. Spirit is notphysical, everything that's
spiritual is not physical, andwhatever's physical is not
spiritual. You know, those aretwo different worlds. And so you
shouldn't expect anything in thephysical arena. Now, there are
times where I'll get a cough,because Spirit had broken neck
(36:20):
or cough, or whatever have you.
So that happens, and because I'mvery sensitive, but that's not
what you should expect. Okay.
All right. So, but the biggestbiggest mistake people have is
going into the left brain, andkeeping themselves out of the
right brain with their doubtsand expectations. You have to
(36:44):
make yourself go into the rightbrain. And and so what happens
is all they hear themselvesthinking left brain doubts and
questions, and they can identifythat. And then they start
saying, Oh, I gotta go into theright brain. I gotta go in the
right brain. Well, that's a leftbrain. Yeah. So the only way you
(37:05):
can go into the right brain doesto activate. And that's why it
created the door image, but youcan create any kind of image,
anything that activates theright brain will take you into
the right brain. And then thenext thing is trusting
everything that you get, notbelieving in what you get is, is
the is the next biggest mistake.
That actually probably the firstbiggest mistake, you know, even
(37:29):
even professional mediums, youknow, we'll get something and
then hold their tongue. Yeah,and hold their tongue the whole
third time, because I'm stupid.
I don't know if this is right. Idon't know if I should say this,
you know, especially in publicmediumship when you're doing
(37:50):
mediumship, which is a bigthing. And Lola Dale happens
all day long. Tapes and friendsthat are there. Yeah. Yeah.
And, and, and, you know, youcan't hold your tongue, you're
just, you get it, you get it.
So,yeah, well, I think that's where
there's something to be saidabout good training and
understanding that discernmentof you know, how to work with
(38:11):
particularly like sensitiveinformation and how to interpret
it and then say it in a waythat's appropriate, or that
doesn't get, you know, sometimeswe know details and they don't
all necessarily need to bestated to say what's happening.
And there's, there is agentleness that needs to happen.
(38:31):
You certainly have to havecertain discernment, especially
in public mediumship. Certainly,even public or private, I never
predict death. I never predict,oh, you know, I'm not a doctor,
I don't diagnose. You know,those types of things are not in
my wheelhouse. So I don't dothat, you know, so. But, yeah,
(38:55):
certainly in public mediumship.
You don't say, oh, it's the guysitting next to your husband,
you're getting that type ofstuff.
But if someone is in a space,where they're, you know, having
experiences, they're doingmeditations, visualizations like
this, but they're, they'rehaving that bit of a hurdle,
(39:18):
where they just are not findingtheir ability to trust
themselves, or they're receivingsigns in the world and then
doubting them, do you have anyguidance that or any particular
thing they can work on to kindof move through that place into
a place of okay, I'm just gonnasurrender and trust what I
receive, I think,actually, yes, there. They have
to work that they have to, thefirst thing you have to do to
(39:42):
work through it is to workthrough it, you have to move
beyond and that's experience andgo into the next receptive state
and having it but there aredeclarations actually, there's a
number of different declareddeclarations in my book that
are, are about declaring yourabsolute connection and feeling
(40:08):
your absolute connection to yourancestral spirit guides. And
when you have a sense of thosedeclarations, when you work with
those declarations, and thosedeclarations in the book, have a
little process with each one, sothat you can feel the
(40:28):
declarative power with eachdeclaration. And then the
process immediately follows. Soyou can experience the power
that you felt with thedeclaration. And so it's a it's
a process that you stayed atmentally. And it's more than an
affirmation, I, in my book powerwords, it was important to me to
(40:51):
take affirmations to a higherlevel. And that was to, to make
declare, declarations todeclare, to proclaim, not to
just affirm and, and so you inthis book, it didn't, you know,
you make declarations about yourconnection, your absolute
(41:12):
connection, and then immediatelyfollowing that is this tiny,
little immediate, immediate,immediate response of connection
to spirit, so that you can havethat as a response to the
declaration. So it's, it'simmediate responsiveness. So
havingthat so great, and I'm so happy
(41:32):
that you put that in the bookbecause I really feel like
anymore seems there are so fewresources like this for people
that are searching and seekingto have like a trustworthy,
almost like a guidebook of, youknow, if this then try this, if
this then try this. And I lovethat you give people permission
to understand that this is aprocess a journey, it's not, you
(41:56):
know, the first time you try it,yes, you might have a profound
experience. But also it might beincredibly subtle, which is
probably much more likely and bea process over time that you get
to understand more about who'swho's coming through that door,
which ancestor it is what theemotion is that they're trying
to share. So I love that youreally highlight the journey of
(42:17):
it as well.
Right? Yes, well, you know, whenI said you can have, you can, it
can either take a long time orcontent be right now. And it can
be right now. But then you haveto practice it being right now.
And you have to practice it andpractice it and practice. So the
practice of it being right nowdoes take a long time. So So
(42:40):
yeah, it is that's the journey.
Yeah.
And it's good. I mean, becauseright now, they are all around
us at any time, just a thoughtaway, just a heartbeat away. I'm
also trained in the British,British and spiritualist
tradition of mediumship. So Ibelieve all of that the spirit
world is not a faraway place.
And we do have access to all ofour ancestors just either
through a visualizationtechnique, like you've given us
(43:00):
incredible ones already in thisconversation, plus all the
delicious ones that are in thebook. But you know, once someone
doesn't need that visualizationanymore, they can just move
their awareness to who's joiningthem. I didn't ask you if I
could talk about this, but I'veheard you talk about it before.
So I'm hoping it's okay. You'veshared before that your second
(43:21):
husband crossed over to thespirit world, and you have still
a very active partnership. Youyou guys were amazing partners
in life and then in thisdifferent relationship with Him
in the spirit side, you stillare able to have this
partnership experience. Wouldyou mind sharing a little bit
about how that is for you?
(43:44):
Because I know several people,several of our listeners have
lost a significant person.
Yes, it's, it's really amazingto me, and so sad for me that so
many people don't carry on theirrelationships after their loved
ones die. It's, you know, mysecond husband, Rudy, and
(44:07):
actually, just in the last year,my first husband Michael, who
was a really good friend to meand actually stood in my wedding
suit at my wedding in to mySeco. Yes. And was godfather to
our son, my son whatan incredible soul. Yeah. So,
(44:30):
and I've been there, he's beencoming in. Since he passed two.
They both passed with cancerand, and so he a boat he, Rudy,
my second husband has been sohelpful to me. It when I have to
(44:51):
do a workshop or when I havepreparation to do he was always
there for me. In the living andit's really kind of funny,
because when I have to do thatnow, I can say, oh my gosh,
Rudy, how am I getting all thisdone off to get that done? And
and then I kind of, I kind ofasked for his help and, and I
(45:16):
kind of get an organizationalslots in my head. And I don't
know how that happens. And evenin the timeline, I think, where
am I get the time for this. AndI wake up in time, even though
wow, I set my clock for a littlelater so I can get more sleep. I
(45:39):
wake up in time enough to do it.
It's like, holy cow. Well,thanks. You know, yeah, he's
drinking for, for sharing thattoo. Because I do think people
expect or assume how we'retalking about expectations can
be dangerous, they expect to seean apparition of that person
standing at their bedside,saying it's time to wake up. And
(46:00):
it's not like that. And I thinkif people understood, you know,
as you are describing the waysit can be if people understood
the subtleties and the softnessof it, they would realize, oh,
no, this is already happening.
This is already a real part ofmy experience. I just thought it
was supposed to be somethingelse,
right? Yes. No, they don't standat the foot of your bed. They
(46:22):
don't actually yes, no, and theydon't touch your shoulder. Not
typically, they just put theidea in your head, and they put
the help and the energy in yourmind and in your heart. And once
you start to have a relationshipwith them. Now, if you're
meditating, and you're doing avisualization, they'll give you
(46:46):
the images like we've just beendoing. And you can count on them
that that is they who are doingthat. But But then, but as
you're going through life, ifyou ask a question, then the
idea of pop up or if you ask foran image, then they'll drop the
image in your mind. But But yes,no, it's it's quite a different
(47:09):
story. It's like people, youknow, people expect it to be
like Hollywood movies. It's, youknow, a Nicolas Cage.
Yeah, definitely not. And Idon't know that we've what we
think we would want it to bethat way. But I don't know that.
I actually would I don't thinkI'd like that very much at all.
Now, I feel like there's someoverlap in I don't know, it's
(47:34):
tough to put things in boxes, Ithink, which are human mind I
often wants to do for sorting,but I know that ancestors can
guide us. And I know that guidescan be ancestors. But is there
in your work. In yourperspective? Is there a clear
delineation between ancestorversus guide? Or are Is there a
(47:56):
lot of overlap gray area, or allof the
above? To me, anybody who givesus guidance is a guide. Really,
if if they give us guidance,they're guides. They're guiding
us, right? So I know a lot ofpeople make distinctions between
spirit guides and ancestors. Andagain, because they're thinking
(48:19):
of ancestors or It's grandma andgrandpa and that type of thing.
Yeah. But, but no. ancestors arealso the people who help you
write your book, the people whohelp you compose music, the
people who help you, with yourhealing tasks, the people who
help you with your psychicdevelopment. Those are your
(48:41):
ancestors too. There's yourancestral spirit guides, because
they went before you in yourhistory of studying and working
with your psychic developmentand their psychic development.
And don't forget, and a lot ofpeople forget this. I can't
count the number of times whenI'm doing reading and I will see
(49:03):
a higher guide like an AscendedMaster come to one of the people
that I'm one of my clients, and,and one of the grandmothers are
great grandmother's or somebodywill walk up and stand right
next to the the Ascended Master.
And the client will wonder Well,yeah, I know she went to church
(49:26):
a lot, but why she with theAscended Masters? She doesn't
seem like a psychic person. Butthey don't remember that these
people had past lives too. Yeah.
And grandma might probablyworked in the ashram of the
Ascended Master. We don't forgetwe don't remember that our aunts
(49:51):
and uncles and grandmothers andgrandfathers maybe it's all they
were they might not have everhad any ideological inkling, or
mental awareness of a history ofthat might have had a profound
history of that and onlyrecollected it once they passed,
(50:14):
and had a memory of their pastlives. And so they might be even
closer to this Ascended Masterthan we are. And so we should
not be diminishing our, ourbiological ancestors by any
measure whatsoever. So becausethey work with them, as we do.
(50:36):
And so they are our guides to soeven when no matter what their
their past life history is,well, you make so many good
points, not only, like youmentioned, do we not know the
entire past life history ofsomeone mean, we may have
crossed paths with in thislifetime. But certainly, as you
mentioned, earlier on in ourchat, if someone's in
(50:57):
government, if someone's infinance, of course, there are
going to be ancestors of thatlineage of that tradition of
that study that are taking aninterest steal, if someone's a
scientist or an inventor, or,you know, profound musician, of
course, there are musicalprodigies that have come before
(51:18):
that are going to want toinspire support, facilitate, you
know, do their part of theenergy to continue that work in
some way doesn't mean becausethey've crossed over to the
other side, suddenly, they areall love and light and have no
interest in, you know, thishuman side or in the work
(51:39):
anymore. They still areinterest,
right? Absolutely. As a matterof fact, I It's you wouldn't be
surprised the world would be sosurprised at how frustrated this
those in Spirit are. They triedto talk to us, our you know,
grandmas and grandpas certainlytried to talk to us and, and the
(52:02):
writers who are, you know,floating into the spirit world,
and they see our beacons oflight, and we're writing it,
they want to say, Okay, put thisin there, put that there and no,
no, take that chapter out, youknow, that type of thing. And
they want to roll up anewspaper. And I mean, think of
how frustrating it would be foreach of us to well, it doesn't
(52:28):
happen anymore, because phone,phones don't get busy signals
anymore. If you tried to callsomebody and never got through,
ever, that's what the spiritworld experiences when they try
to make a direct phone call tomost of the physical world.
(52:53):
nobody's answering but themediums. What percentage of the
world is that? Did you did? Didanybody teeny? Yes. Sad. So many
people want to talk to theirloved one. So many writers want
to talk to the writers. So manybusiness, people want to talk to
the business people. So manyquantum physicists want to talk
(53:15):
to the quantum physicists, forsure. Heck, nothing's happening.
They're throwing their arms upand saying, holy cow, when are
they gonna get it? That's what.
And so I just think they havesuch a different vantage point
on the other side that they cansee more clearly, the
(53:35):
interconnectedness here, andthe, what I often perceive as
the ripple of our, you know,every choice that we make now,
how you were saying, you know, a10 year prediction is not
necessarily possible, becauseit's the potentials of what
could happen based on choiceswe're making here and now that
then open up and potentially anew segment of our map, so to
(53:56):
speak, right, we, you know,it's, it always reminds me of
those, it's a little oldfashioned, but those choose your
own ending books, where it'slike, you know, you're at the
bridge, do you want to go to inthe door? Or do you want to take
the trolley, you know, so it'skind of is how it is for us? Our
choices that we're in it is forme, I know, You've spoken on
this extensively and taught onit. It is this connection
(54:19):
between our freewill and thepart of our life that's not pre
determined. And the things thatwe do, perhaps agree beforehand
that we're going to experiencebut they don't have to
necessarily show up in a certainkind of way. Do you know what I
mean?
Right, exactly. We do makecontracts to meet certain people
(54:41):
and perhaps even at certaintimes, but we and we do probably
make contracts to try to workon, you know, certain karmic
lessons. But whether or not wemade those karmic lessons,
whether or not we follow throughwith with what we're supposed to
be doing, you know that It's allfree, well, that's all free
(55:02):
well, and so, you know, it's allbased on then this is the most
important spirit relationship,and it's based on whether or not
we find our own spirit, and meetour own spirit and say, Hey,
this is, this is an importantvoice to find. And this is an
(55:25):
important voice to, to, to makereal in the world. And, and
let's do this.
And I love that the underpinningof all of your work like so many
spiritualists and mediums andpeople in this work is about the
empowerment of the individual inthis lifetime in this here and
(55:50):
now experience. And rather thanit, you know, of course, there
are lots of amazing parts of thespiritual work but really
empowering people that Okay, nowthat you know that you are in
are connected, and that you cantalk to everyone, what are you
now empowered to do to live yourbest life right now or the life
(56:12):
you choose to live right now?
They love that that's such apart of why we're even talking
to the ancestors. Right?
Right, right. Yeah, but youknow, a lot of people have a lot
of healing to do, we really,really get stuck in our
patterns. You know, like I said,before, you know, karmic healing
and ancestral healing have a bigoverlap. As a matter of fact, I
(56:36):
have a new workbook, theconnection of karmic and
ancestral healing, it's actuallyfree on my website, Sharon
klingler.com. So if you go to mywebsite, page, it's on my
homepage, Sharon klingler.com,it's got a lot of new processes
(56:58):
and journaling work that you cando to try to get out of the
patterns. We live, relive, andrelive and relive and relive and
relive our patterns in our mind.
And, and we hold ourselves back,and we have to break out of
those self made prisons, youknow, but we can do that, we can
do that with the right work. Andwe can do that with the help of
(57:21):
our ancestors. And, and so wecan invoke the help of our
ancestors with that. So if yougo to Sharon klingler.com, on
our on my homepage page, you'llfind out how to get that free
workbook, the connection ofkarmic and ancestral healing.
Oh, that's soexciting. I will definitely link
it in the show notes. Andeverywhere that you find this
(57:44):
you can, you'll be able to findthe links, it's so timely, and
it's such necessary work for usto be doing that introspection
so we can recognize that lightwithin and do the healing that
we need to do. I'm I wish we hadmore time to dive into it. But I
love that you brought this upbecause for anyone, which I
believe is everyone who canidentify any patterns of
(58:05):
behavior patterns of thoughtpatterns of, you know, you seem
to keep recreating similarrelationships, and you don't
understand why Sharon has a freetool for us. It's gonna help us
start diving in, which is sogenerous that you're willing to
share that. So thank you so muchfor that resource. For sure. Are
you up for a bit of a change ofgears? I have these four
(58:29):
questions the spirit speedround, and I would love to hear
your off the cuff answers tothat up for that. Sure. Okay,
exciting. Okay, so question one,share one thing that really
shocked you, or was unexpectedabout your personal spiritual
gifts as a medium or as apsychic, whatever you like. It
(58:49):
was kind of shocking orunexpected about your own gift.
How bold I was, when I finallylearned how to do it. I'm I got
to the point where I didn't carewhat anybody was thinking about
me.
I really wow, is that differentthan what you were before?
(59:12):
I'm gonna say. And that's reallyactually when when I had the
breakthrough, that's what Ineeded to actually to have the
breakthrough of trustingeverything. Wow, I love and, and
and was my breakthrough at thesame time.
It's pretty incredible. Okay,question two. If you've got to
(59:33):
spend a whole day in the spiritworld, you got the full tour got
to spend time with all of yourancestors plus everyone who you
have ever known that you want tospend time with. And it's almost
time for you to return to yourlife here. And your guide tells
you you have one hour left andyou can spend it with anyone
who's on the other side that youwant. Who do you choose and why?
(59:57):
It would have to be two It wouldbe Jesus and Buddha. And, and
actually, I would choose themboth for the same reason.
Because before I would want tocome back, I would want to try
(01:00:18):
to absorb, suck all of theirpeace and compassion and wisdom
and compassionate love as Icould possibly get before I go
(01:00:42):
back here. Wow, that'sa beautiful answer. I love it.
Okay, this one's a littledifferent pace. Even though we
have the spiritual gifts, wehave very human lives. What is
one quirky thing about you thatpeople might be surprised to
learn?
I'm obsessive compulsive.
Everything, pretty much has tobe in its place. Although it
(01:01:08):
doesn't seem like that. Now,I've been too busy to this
place. And I buy a lot of bedclothes, bed linens, and rugs.
That's my motto money on.
(01:01:28):
Pillow. It's interesting thethings that we're drawn to two,
that's kind of a cool, quirkything. So you always have cozy
bedding is what it sounds likeover there. If you would leave
us with one pearl of wisdom,what's one piece of advice that
you wish that you had had earlyon in your understanding of your
gifts?
(01:01:56):
I wish I understood earlier. Notto care what people think. The
thing that made me bold came toolate. But it's here now. But I
wish I'd gotten that earlier.
Don't count people think it putsyou into your left brain. It
(01:02:16):
puts you into your judgement ofyourself. Stop judging yourself.
Stop caring what people thinkthat doesn't mean stop caring
about people. It means stopcaring about judgment.
Wow, that's a really that is apearl of wisdom. That's some
(01:02:36):
great advice. And I think theearlier that anyone can take
that on board, the better fortheir journey. Well, thank you
so much for being with us today.
For so generously, sharing yourwisdom and your light, it has
been a delight to talk to you.
And of course, we can find yournewest book, which we've just
(01:02:57):
been talking about the answersfrom the ancestral realms is
available and I'm going to putthat link, you can find it
sharing klingler.com There's alink there. And you can also
find it at Star Bringer.
associates.com. But we'll have alink in the show notes. I did
want to really quickly say we'regiving five bonus gifts away. If
(01:03:19):
you Yes, if you go to ancestralrealms book.com ancestral rooms
book.com, that special website,we're giving away $500 worth of
audio, Web Audio, meditationsand two workshops. And yeah, if
(01:03:40):
you go to Audio realms book.com.
And you can get the book and getthat extra bonus gifts.
Wow, that's amazing. And don'tworry, we'll have a link in the
show notes. So if you aredriving and didn't get to jot
that down, just check out theshow notes. And I'll have all of
those links. Don't miss thosegifts. Because like I mentioned
at the top, Sharon has beendoing this work and sharing it
(01:04:01):
globally for a really long time.
So don't miss those treats. Andthis book is just a wealth of
information and an incredibleresource. So thank you for
taking the time to put it intothe world and taking the time to
have this conversation with ustoday. Thanks for being here,
Sharon.
Thank you joy.
(01:04:21):
Thanks for sharing your light.
What an incredible conversationwith Sharon and Klingler. I am
still processing everything thatwe talked about. I got to ask
some really specific questions,which I was excited about. And
like I said, I'm still kind ofprocessing the information.
Those exercises. I didn't expecther to spontaneously spring into
(01:04:44):
two visualization exercises withus. So how cool if you haven't
had a chance to get the bookalready. I would highly
encourage you to because it'sjust an incredible resource tool
gives lot So I have examples andexercises and tips and tricks.
So of course, that link will bein the show notes as well as on
(01:05:09):
my website joyfulmedium.com/blog. You can find
the full video, the fulltranscript, plus all the links,
you want to check out this bookanswers from the ancestral
realm. And don't miss those freebonuses don't sleep on all of
these free offerings that comealong with this book, all of the
(01:05:30):
teachings and meditations andlessons that she's sharing just
as free gifts alone. Plus, I'llput a link to her website where
she was talking about theprocess to break through
patterns or to understand ourpatterns to heal patterns, right
on the homepage of her website.
So I'll put the link to Sharonklingler.com Because you're
(01:05:53):
going to want to get thatresource. Thank you for being
here with me today. My mind is alittle bit blown. Because I've
been following Sharon's work formany years now we have several
friends in common as well. So Ihope you really enjoy this
conversation. What a treat suchan incredible way to set
(01:06:13):
ourselves up for the rest ofthis year. Thanks for being here
with me inside the spiritspeakeasy I hope that you enjoy
this let me know your experiencewith a book or with these
exercises that she gave usduring this talk. I'm so curious
to hear your experiences andanything that you got or learned
(01:06:36):
from this episodes, leave it inthe comments or join me in the
joy soul spot Facebook group andlet me know
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Ridiculous History
History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.