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February 11, 2025 80 mins

What happens when your dream is at odds with the world around you? In a time when towering developments are replacing small businesses, Kathie Chadbourne carved out an oasis of history, culture, and connection in downtown Salt Lake City. Her rock shop, From the Ground Up, isn’t just about selling stones—it’s about creating a sanctuary where people can reconnect with something deeper. This episode is an exploration of what it means to build something meaningful in a world obsessed with progress.

Kathie’s journey from running a beloved farm-to-table restaurant to following her lifelong dream of opening a rock shop is a lesson in resilience, vision, and trust. In this conversation, she shares how she turned a personal passion into a thriving business, the importance of preserving community spaces, and why sometimes, the smallest shops can hold the biggest wisdom. We also dive into the deeper spiritual and environmental themes—how can we stay grounded in a world that’s always moving?


Chapters:

00:00 – The Cost of Growth: What’s Lost in the Race to Build?

05:15 – Creating an Oasis in the Middle of Change

11:40 – From Restaurant to Rock Shop: Kathie’s Unexpected Journey

18:22 – The Magic of Following a Long-Held Dream

24:50 – More Than Rocks: Building a Space for Connection

32:15 – A Spiritual Take on Business and Community

38:00 – Why the Small Shops Matter More Than Ever


If you’ve ever felt the pull to build something that truly matters—whether it’s a business, a movement, or simply a life that aligns with your values—this episode is for you. Let’s talk about finding beauty in change, creating space for real conversations, and embracing the unknown with confidence.

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