October 2, 2025 • 53 mins
Join spiritual coach Vibecke Garnaas and Intuition Queen Kim Chesney for a transformative exploration of aligning with your soul's purpose. In this episode, uncover practical tools to harness your intuition and embrace your unique soul gifts as you navigate life's challenges with grace.
Discover the importance of divine timing, spiritual bypassing, and the quantum connection between intuition and universal energy. Vibecke reflects on channeling, soul sovereignty, and overcoming limiting beliefs, while Kim shares insights on grounding light codes, balancing duality, and healing through multidimensional awareness.
🔑Key Segments:
[00:06:02] Aligning with Your Soul Mission: The importance of intention, alignment, and flow in manifesting your soul path.
[00:07:42] The Quantum Connection of Intuition: How intuition connects us to the invisible field of universal energy.
[00:11:30] Soul Sovereignty & Energy Work: Reclaiming your power and navigating lower vibrations.
[00:20:15] Grounding Spiritual Energy: The necessity of grounding light codes and aligning the physical body with higher frequencies.
[00:27:11] Embracing Duality for Growth: Using friction and challenges as catalysts for soul expansion.
[00:30:51] The Enigma of Self-Discovery: Exploring multidimensional self-awareness and personal soul names.
[00:38:14] Healing Through Multidimensional Awareness: past lives, karma, and energy of money as growth tools.
[00:46:05] Holding Space for Yourself: The vital role of self-care and sacred space in your spiritual journey.
Whether you're a lightworker, starseed, or seeker of higher consciousness, this episode provides actionable guidance to reclaim your energy, expand into your highest potential, and confidently step into your soul work. Embark on your spiritual journey today—trust in divine timing and awaken your true path.
To learn more about Kim Chesney and her work, visit KimChesney.com
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I must say that we, we signed up for this.
I mean, we chose to come into this
duality,this this reality and create this reality.
And there is loss in order to create this,this reality.
And one of those laws is actuallywhat you just so beautifully
shared, the experiment of being human.
We have to experimentwith light and darkness
(00:22):
because we wouldn't know ourselvesunless we could cast
that shadow in order to see who we areand then to learn.
Oh well, that was interesting.
Let's see from a different perspective.
Is that really what is that?
Yeah. Like, is that me?
Is that actually my energy
or am I now playing out some other storythat I've been told?
(00:45):
Is it truly who I am?
Welcome to the Spiritual Quest podcast,a transformative journey
where we step into a world of wonderand exploration,
seeking answers to profound questions.
Why am I here?
What is my mission in life and how can Imake a positive impact in this world?
(01:09):
Join me and my inspiring gueston a spiritual quest to fully embrace
your uniqueness and speak your truthwith grace and gratitude.
I am your host,Rebecca Garner, always guided by spirit.
Hello, hello and welcome to
another episoderight here on the Spiritual Quest podcast.
(01:34):
I'm back from holiday,and it's been wonderful just to relax,
to really reconnect
with my family again without any devices
and just being in natureand enjoying what it means to be human
and to enjoy this life journey.
And therefore, I've decided to invite
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my very good friendKim Chesney for this discussion
we're going to have today,because it's a very,
well, let me just say this.
I'm very passionate about our discussion
because there are so many energy in motionright now.
And how do we navigate this?
Because we need to have some tools
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and we need to have some understandingas humans in order to navigate.
And I couldn't figure out anybodybetter than Kim Chesney intuition
Queen, to help us navigateand to dive into these topics
of how do we navigatethese transitional times.
So we know further ado.
Here is my good friend Kim Chesney.
(02:41):
Hello.
Hello.
Because so great to see you.
It's great to see you too.
And you know, for the viewersand listeners, I just want to say
that you and I, we've had a history
now we have actually history together,which I think is so beautiful.
We've had some really great experiencestogether, and I'm feeling and sensing
(03:05):
as we are transits, transitioning thesethis difficult times for some people,
but just moving with East, shiftsthat we're experiencing,
we are actually getting even closer,like the concept of oneness.
And so when I mentioned,you know, what I was feeling
(03:26):
and sensing when I speak to people,you could relate completely.
It's like reading an open book, right?
And so I wanted to bring you onand have you share
and your take on what's going on,
and especially that concept of divinetiming
and spiritual bypassing,because I experience both of it
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all the time.
So let's have a discussion around that.
But for those who don't know you,Kim, please just share a short intro of
who are you and what do you do?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm KimChesney and I have a passion for intuition
as because it's going to let you knowthroughout all of our work together,
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we've collaborated on a lot of thingsand some wonderful
international retreats together.
And, you know, my whole lifeI've really been,
pretty much obsessed with understanding,intuition and its role in our life
and how, the modern missed it can use itto really elevate our awareness
of what's going on in this realityand beyond this reality, in everyday life.
(04:33):
So I'm really excited to be hereand talk about this.
And the subject is really importantbecause I think it's something
we all grapple with
and really understanding that,you know, the difference between,
you know, the, our, our pathwaythat's guided
by external forces and our pathwaythat's led by our inner light.
So I think it's a really importantconversation.
(04:55):
Yes, I love that. Use it. That's why.
Yeah, you're my go tobecause you are the expert.
You're the intuition queen.I gave you that name.
I mean, seriously, you know this.
You know your work.
I mean, you'repassionate, real passionate.
And that actually brings us into divinetiming, because let's use our connection.
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I knew when I met you, that was what
I would refer to as divine timing.
And why do I say that?
Because I was aligned with my soulmission, my unique frequency,
and I had a really clear intentionof what I wanted.
With the Spiritual Quest podcastand the guests I wanted to bring on,
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also because I needed thatin a personal perspective
to explore more,to have different perspectives.
Right.
So I had a clear intention,I had my thoughts
and my creativity combined,and of course, my heart.
I felt really, really alignedand so it was a flow.
(05:58):
And I knew when I was just
writing outto ask people to get on my podcast
or if they wanted to be on my podcast,I started instead of receiving
emails of peoplewho had suggestions for me.
So in the beginning, I was out there
searchingfor guests based on my intention.
(06:21):
But as soon as I locked in that key,
which I called divine Timing,it all just flew.
Like when I was ready,
they showed up, you showed up.
And so I knew when I connected with youthat this was something special.
So for me, just giving,you know, our story to my belief
of what divine timing is.
(06:43):
I would love to hear your perspectiveon that.
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
I couldn't agree with you more.
Alignment, in my experience, really isthat sign of divine timing a lot of times.
And what happens is, for those of youwho know the way
I approach intuition,I see intuition as a quantum function.
So in my mind, what's really happeningwhen we are ready for change,
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when we're readyto invite new things into our life,
when we're following that inner light,that inner guidance,
that's actually a quantum connectionto the invisible field around us
that connects us all that allows, the part of myself that knows everything
to connect to your part of yourself,that knows everything.
Working behind the scenes, makingall these connections and dots, align
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even though our
small sort of conscious mindsthat are here, present in this reality
may not be aware of it, but there isour higher self, a higher part of us.
That's that's sort of lining
all of these things up for our growth,for our benefit, for our expansion.
Right.
And that's why intuition is so importantis because that that deep dimension,
moves through our intuitionand aligns us with these things,
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that really bring us to growth and,and show us the way and, and but.
Right.
Which I kind of want
to segue into this next topic that I thinkwhere you're going to take this,
it doesn't mean that only thingsthat are aligned
perfectly and sort of magically appearbefore us are the way,
because there is the way of growthand challenge and friction,
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which is also part of this divine timing.
And I kind of, in my mind, comes togetherlike this beautiful symphony
of ease and, and push and,and that's what makes life
sort of generate that energythat allows us to grow and expand.
I love that, and I love that you said thatbecause I was sitting
reflectingas you were speaking about what you were
(08:35):
actually talking about is harmonizing,right?
You're in harmonywith the universal forces.
And as we are being entangledwith that harmony, we're playing
that vibrationthat's resonating and it's harmonizing.
So when I called youin, I would say I called you in.
It was a calling on my soul.
(08:56):
I'm going to be I called you in. Yeah.
But that's the thing. It's the harmony.
We resonate.
It was the harmonizationthat this is what we need at this time.
And so that will also, like you said,
allow you to expand on that. Right.
So we can grow into thatand we can shift and rise it.
So there's new things coming in.
(09:18):
We can entangle with other energy.
So in other vibrations,that's how I see at the expansion level
when I channel, like, I started tochannel Zaharias in the order of seven.
I did that for seven years before.
Well, the truth is, I had 1 or 2that step forward energies wise,
but I, I was training myselfto harmonize with their vibration.
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They so I could separate to seewhat's mine and what's theirs,
so that I could actually feeland sense and know on a deep level
what was for my highest good like.
But it didn't mean that I didn't.
I wasn't put in difficult situation.
Kim, like you're saying to grow.
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So I did in the beginning allow
to channel lower entities.
I didn't do that for a long time.
I actually had people in the roomas I did that, so they assisted me.
So but the lesson here I want to shareis that
people would ask me,why would Zaharias, in the order of seven
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do that, allow you,if they chose you as a channel,
how would they allow energiesto step in negative or lower entities?
Well,hey, I'm the one who's on this journey.
I'm the creator of what I allow.
And, it's my vibration, my thoughts,
my well-being, soul sovereignty.
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I talk about that all the time,but it is me opening up.
They are never going to take awaymy lessons, so I cannot sit here and say,
Oh God, come and help me or Zaharias,help me out of this.
I can ask for guidance,but I would use my intuition.
I would have to come to a placewhere I could feel
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and sense that what I was,
my vibration,the resonance, was pure enough
for me to trust thatwhat came in was the right thing.
So I would have to clear andand work on my energy
and do other kind of energy workbefore I would put myself in the situation
of opening up and allowing energyin, again, soul sovereignty.
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So let's explore that concept for a bit.
Right from your perspective,how do we entangle with vibrations
and how can we,
knowing that we want to be in the flow,to have some alignment in order
to have divine timing unfoldand not go into spiritual bypassing?
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Because I think I did thatwhen I order allow that in.
Do you understand?
Like I wanted to expand on it and yes,it was a lesson, but I had to move
through it on the other side,if you know what I mean.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I think it kind of
goes back sometimes to that statementthat adversity builds character, right?
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It's those challenges that we havethat are our learning lessons.
So even though you might not have chosen
consciously to engage with those entities,
there is a part of you that needed youto understand what that was like.
And then you can actually talk about it,right, and share with other people
and explain, you know, how not to do thator why you shouldn't, right?
(12:34):
Because unless you personally experienceit, you might not even believe in it.
Right?
So there's that.
So, so we can we can engagein those challenging activities
to learn from them because everything isideally a learning experience.
But, you know,I think ultimately we want to align with,
you know, that highest path,that best path.
And that's what our intuitionalways wants us to connect with, even
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even if it does take us on some long route
somehow it's really all for our own good,our own expansion.
So I always say you're never in betterhands than when you trust your gut.
So, the short answer to that question is,I think
putting everything to,to the test of your intuition.
That is key, right?
Like, and, you know, we talked about thisa little bit earlier, but
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not relying on external forcesas people in the spiritual community.
We have, a lot of, you know, rituals.
And we have a lot of fun that we do thingslike angel numbers or, you know, signs.
Synchronicities are a very important partof how we relate to the universe.
But that's not the be all and end all.
And I think that sometimeswe can still get caught up on.
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Oh, if, you know, oh,if the stars aren't aligned a certain way,
then that's not the path for me.
Or, that's like a birdsflew over that way.
So I shouldn't go, right?
So we don't realize that we're stillputting our power outside of us, right?
So that's the key.
We don't want to put our poweroutside of us for anything.
Not other people.
Not the flock of birds. Not, I'm not.
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Saying your dog,not you know, social media. I,
Like all of these things.
Our friends and family. Sure.
We can take all of that stuffin as information,
but at the end of the day, we have onetrue God, and that's within us.
That's our intuition.
So everything we do, we have to be surewe are connecting with that.
(14:25):
Right?
So no, don't let whether or notlike some piece of technology works,
be your answer or don't let
like I was tell peoplewe work with insight cards a lot.
You know that.
So there's sort of like Oracle cards,but they're really just designed
to help you to really understand yourself.
Right.
And when people do readings.
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Yeah, I say don't ever ask someoneto make a decision for you.
Like,oh, should I go marry this person? No.
You know, you don't ask someone elsefor that information.
You could ask someone else for insightabout the situation, right?
Like, oh, right.
There's this dynamicor that dynamic or whatever.
But you never ask someone elseto make a decision for you
or to take away your power.
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That is a cardinal rule or prime directiveof all of the intuition work I do.
So, getting in the habitof turning into ourselves
to really rely on ourselves,check in with ourselves
and our heart, and that resonantfeeling like you were talking about.
You know the truth,by the way it feels right.
Do you have that feeling of resonancewithin you?
That's a better testthan any of these other things
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that allow us to sortof spiritually bypass making the decisions
that, can, can make or break usor to allow us to grow
or have those radical successesthat we may be a little afraid of,
and we just look for excusesnot to take those that path.
So at the end of the day,it's it's that tuning,
tuning in to that inner lightand that inner resonance.
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I think that really makes a difference.
It makes all the difference,I think, because
it's all about being awareof your own energy
and other people's energy in orderto be able to reclaim what is yours.
Because the thing is, we have a lot of
history, especially as females,
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of being imprinted with certain patternsor imprints
that holds us, that restricts
us or our energy in some way or another.
And so we are carrying those imprints,and they are a collective
that is now as we are ascending, it'sbecoming more available,
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more clear to usthat we have been suppressed.
And we need to reclaim our authenticityand our voice.
And that's the vibrational attunementwe're talking about
in order to embrace and accept our unique
energy signature.
Let's call it that.
(16:56):
Yeah.
And in that there is a lot of,
bypassing going on
because of the fear that's been pushed
upon us that we've been imprinted withand that we are not aware of.
Because when we're talking about, my experience
because I do workdo this work with clients, I can see that
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there's a lot of past livesas we are sending out and
and people are, you know,I want to fulfill my soul mission.
I feel I'm feeling the call.
But then
moving awayand letting go of the old time, to shift
for the highest good, it's suddenly,well, I'm not good enough.
(17:38):
Well, I'm not worthy.
I'm not safe in doing this.
All of this.
And my self-doubt is coming up,
and then it's like, well,if everything that we just shared
about divine timing, it's be now
being used as an excuse.
Well, if it's not meant, it'snot it's not divine timing.
(18:01):
Exactly.
Again, we are allowing the negativeforces, external forces
to dictate our own ascension process 100%.
And we need to stop.
We need to stop and say, okay.
That's the same thing.
We're tricking ourselves because we'relike, oh, we're doing something spiritual.
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We're doing this,but we're really self-sabotaging. Yes.
And we need to stop doing that.
And I'm yeah, I'm,I'm still a I've done it,
but at least I'm awarenow through the process, I've been there.
Like you've said, I've done the mistakesin order to learn and grow.
And I want to share with youjust to put that into perspective,
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when I did channelthose lower frequencies,
what I do in my work today, I actuallysupport others who have attachments.
I can clear that because I know howthe negative forces entities work.
So not only do
I have that as a social aspect, becauseI've been working with lower Vibrations,
I've actually channeled it.
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So I know the different frequency of high
frequency, low frequency,light darkness and I can use
because I've built up my own resiliencethrough reclaiming my power
and living in integritywith who I am as a multidimensional being.
I'm always safebecause I know and it's a knowingness.
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I know that whatever I decide,I can create.
And so as long as I vibrate and resonance,right, high frequency,
I co-create with spirit and I know how to discern my energy.
But I wouldn't have known all thisif I hadn't done what I shared.
Right.
And so then again.
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But it's all again, divine timing.
But it's a movement of frequency.
It's like a risein understanding and awareness.
So you can havethe different perspectives.
But the thing is, we need to ground it.
And a lot of people is very spiritual,not open.
They don't know howto ground those vibration
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because the physical bodyhas not been brought with the journey.
It's kind of it's been neglected.
We seek and we expand,and we're forgetting that
this beautiful human bodyneeds to carry that vibration
and that those light codesand the new templates
that are being activatedby the ascension process and by us
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consciously becoming aware that, oh,I do have a choice here,
right?
I choose something different from my lifeand we start doing that.
There will be a ring effectalso for the human.
You will see people and friendsand family members maybe question you,
you willfully negative.
You have to stand firmly in your powerand believe in yourself.
(20:57):
Yeah, we know that everything we carry,we have within us,
and we are the creators,and we know that we and we are inspired
and we are being creativeand we are being passionate.
Nothing touches us when we're in that. No.
Absolutely.
And so that is our safe space.
(21:18):
And and that's. What we should be making.
Yeah.
Your decisions need to comefrom that energetic frequency, right?
Yay I love it because that's why
I can never take awaythat creativity, that
passion that can never play that partin a relationship.
Never. It's an energy exchange.
That's something that just feeds youwhat you want to hear,
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and then shifts in the wayit addresses you,
in eluding you in to falling asleep,just in a different perspective, you know?
And it's so true.
That is so true.
It really is.
It's going to be really interestingwhere all the eye stuff goes,
you know, looking at it more, as you know,from a collaborative perspective,
(22:02):
like it's perspective is that it's thereto support us and help us create.
But where, where, you know, itis that sort of energy exchange.
And that's what's characteristic of like,living beings, sentient beings.
Yeah.
So it's that's going to be interesting tosee how that actually starts playing out.
And I, I honestly feel likewhere we're at with AI is like how we were
(22:24):
when the internet started,like we can't even really fully
comprehend, like, remember the first timeyou saw the internet?
Like we can remember thatright in our generation.
The first time I saw the internet,I was like, on, what can you do with this?
We can't even comprehendwhat what this AI is going to bring.
So we have to be vigilant.
We have to use our own intuitive,discernment to, you know,
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see where it takes usand to be very, very, watchful.
You, sir.
Right.
You're so right.
And I'm just reflecting on the kidsat this time because I do have, you know,
young adults. I would call them now.
There will always be my children,but they're young adults
just seeing how much time they spend
on social media and the algorithm and I,
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I was actually made aware through a client
that, was interacting with an AI,and the AI started to
and it was a spiritual AI,if you want to call it that.
I would tell you about your star originand who you were.
And we keep forgetting that everythingthat we put into our computer just our,
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you know, ourour keyboard, it's all being read.
It's all part of it.
Yeah,it's programing and it's being read by AI.
And so
everything that we are creating,putting into they have a footprint.
I call it footprintjust because it's not a blueprint, it's
a footprint of who they areand they can feed that back to you.
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So you just to hook you.
It's a good sales pitch.
They're going to get you
because they're going to get your emotionbecause they're going to speak your word.
They're going to do everythingthat you are always wanted to hear
and to make it interesting,to give you the importance
you're not feeling in yourself.
They're going to make everything
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sound so beautiful, is so interesting,
and you're going to start listening,and then you're going to wake up
and you're going to see, oh, wow,I just gave my power away.
Because then you're then you're controlled
in another perspective,being controlled by external forces.
All we are doingnow is reclaiming and learning how
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to not try to control anything.
Because like you said, intuition.
You don't need to control anything.
Your intuition will guide you.
What we need
is trust in our self and the intuition
and being able to release controlbecause we are the creators.
So why do you need to control what you arecreating?
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Great question, great question.
Especially if you know we're Scorpios.
So control is a real issue for us.
I know
I'm a recovering control freak,I admit it.
Right.
So, I think it's it is really important
to realize that,
you know, we are as co-creators.
(25:22):
No one's ever in control, right?
We're just riding the wave.
And we can be on that surfboard, andwe can determine which way we want to go.
But we're, you know, we're
participating in this with the universeas a co-creative venture.
And the morewe try to actually control things,
and the morewe squeeze the life out of it, right?
And the smaller our world becomes.
(25:44):
So having that sort of relaxed controlthat, you know,
that's sort of control and so farthat we are aligned with our self.
That's really the best form of controlfor us is knowing I'm always doing
what's true to myself, alignwith my heart, align with my vibration.
That's the control I have.
I have the ability to alignor dis align with,
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with the energy frequency of expansionand growth and light
and all the good thingswe want to do in the world.
And that that'sthat's the main point of control.
And then from there, lifecan just take us to these beautiful places
and show us these things,and take us even to challenges.
Right.
Again, it's not always going to be easy
that we weren'twe didn't come here for an easy life.
(26:26):
Earth is not an easy place.
I mean, obviously,
I mean, it goes without saying,look around at what happens in this place.
We're here to learn through it,through duality and adversity.
That's what duality is.
It's,you know, adversity, change, friction.
All of those things are characteristicsof the physical reality that we live in.
So, embracing that understanding that,you know, friction
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gives us an opportunity to growand see something a new way
and to face ourselvesor to, open up our minds.
All of these things are things that we
can't necessarily do with the flow,because when we're in the flow,
we're we're just going along with,you know, where we're being taken.
But what you really wake up,we do need friction.
So many of us have had awakenings throughpainful experiences or through loss
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or grief or, you know, these sort of painlike, oh, I can't take this anymore.
So it's a beautiful thing, frictionin a way.
Right. And all of this,we understand why it exists.
So, when you're going throughall this, though, at the end of the day,
it just comes back to thatvery simple concept of
of aligning with your intuitionand going with your intuition
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no matter what, whether it's the easy wayor whether it's a challenge.
If you stay, you know, true to thatfeeling, that resonance within you.
And just hold on eitherway, hold on for the ride.
And that's really the secret sauce,I think, to to having a magical,
happy, challenging, beautiful, messy,but wonderful life.
(27:55):
Yeah. And I so agree with you.
And I must say that we,we signed up for this.
I mean, we chose to come into this
duality,this this reality and create this reality.
And there is loss in order to create this,this reality.
And one of those laws is actuallywhat you just so beautifully
shared, the experiment of being human.
(28:15):
We have to experimentwith light and darkness
because we
wouldn't know ourselvesunless we could cast that shadow
in order to see who we areand then to learn.
Oh well, that was interesting.
Let's see from a different perspective.
Is that really what is that?
Yeah. Like, is that me?
(28:36):
Is that actually my energy
or am I now playing out some other storythat I've been told?
Is it truly who I am?
So again,I love the way that order says it,
because there are two souls,mainly on this planet today.
I don't like to like really.
I'm sure there's more,but let's say 80% just to give a number.
(28:59):
It's just for the discussion.
So you have the souls coming here to grow
mainly focus,growing, expansion, grow, grow, grow.
And then you have the soulscoming here to serve.
And of course, it's not one or the other,
but it's it's something that they told methat I thought was beautiful.
They said, if you want to findyour authentic vibration,
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you find your callingor your soul mission.
Call it what you wantand you find your karma.
And when you work them equally,you will get a harmony,
a frictionwhich will activate your own channel.
And from that the creative forcesis flowing through your channel
and you becoming that creatorof all of heaven on earth.
(29:47):
And you can ground that groundedinto this physical experience.
And that's how we shift our reality,right? Yes.
It meansthen we have to deal with the dark things,
and we have to understandour multidimensional nature
and be aware of not,you know, not only the physical energy,
but the energy of the whole universethat we are entangled with,
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that we are choosing based on our soulsexpansion and this human journey
and what we're here to teachor to expand on or to learn
whatever you want to say or call it,it needs to.
It's entangled.
It needs to flow. Yes,we need to be aware.
And so it's allabout just knowing ourselves.
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And I wantto share this because I just got this.
I just found peace with thislike the last year.
And that was in the beginning of mechanneling.
It's in the first book.
The first time I met Zacharias,I asked him or I didn't ask,
but I was asked by another and I asked himin channeling, what is my soul name?
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And he said, just, I call you Enigma.
Here's I miss Enigma.
I was like, okay,what the heck does that mean?
But then I got itbecause I could never figure myself out.
And when I thought I knew what I was,everything shifted and I was like, what?
What's that?
And then I finally found peace to say,oh, wow, I don't think I ever going
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to really understand myself,but as long as I'm authentic
in my exploration and I'min my experimental in this reality,
I will always have the resources availablethrough my multidimensional aspects
to choose them to move around
and to move in a directionof high vibration. Yes.
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And and I just finally said, oh,
I love Enigma because it's just fun,because I never know
what I'm going to get.
And that's the right attitude, right?
Because we areI mean, it is actually impossible for us
to fully understand ourselvesbecause we only know a part of ourself,
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or we're like a glacier
with a little bit above water,and that's what we call ourselves.
But there's this whole other deeper thingthere that's part of us
that we just don't have full access towith our brains.
The human brain can only store and processso much information,
and it does enoughfor us to live in this moment
and live in this reality. It'swhat we need to be here
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and learn our lessonsand have our life adventures.
We just can't fully conceiveof all of this other stuff.
So, you know, recognizing thatand knowing that you have we all sort of
have that deep enigma within usthat that we don't
we can't fully know ourselves,but we can know ourselves enough.
And astrology is actually a
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really good tool for for learning to knowthat the top of the glacier.
Right.This is the energy I'm working with.
This is sort of the energy packetI've been given in this reality.
And, and I'm going to work with this,and this is who I am.
And I call me here.
But the real me is so much more right.
It's so much more.
And that's why I love using your insightscards.
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Also with my clients, becauseit allows you to explore that enigma.
It takes you down a pathyou didn't even know.
It depends on your intentionfor using the card.
Of course it called intention cards,
but it like when we use it,we can get all the answer.
It's like itopening a gateway to your soul
and to that multidimensional nature.
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And so if you practice
being in stillnessand being in that sacred space of yours,
your sacred space and making time,
prioritizing, listening and tuning inwards
and then going into that deeper aspect,as you say, of this iceberg,
to get to know it, not to judge it,because we're learned to judge parts
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of ourselves, but to explore.
It's an adventure.
And when you look at everythingthat you even your fears,
even your insecurities,even your self-doubt,
if you could be curious enoughto deep dive and see, oh, I wonder why.
Let's see what my intuition can tell meabout this.
Let's see what this cards can bring,and just allow yourself to open up
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and just see what comes.
And then write.
Write it downso beautifully as you teach people to do.
And then see what comes up.
I always, always get the most beautiful,beautiful answers.
And you know how it isto work on yourself.
I don't know about you,but I it's difficult.
I cannot read myself.
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I have to meet myself and go,let's do this to be with you.
Okay? Let's get this.
So I have to kind of shiftmy perspectives,
and I'm going to give this gift,this to people
if they want to try this,because I love this.
In order for me to shift perspectiveswhen I'm integrating,
I always let me see this.
If I am in a situation where I'm triggered
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an old wound or somethingthat I've been working on,
like let me use money issue,a lot of people have money issues
or have a lack or limitationwhen it comes to money.
And so I've figured outwhy I've done the work,
and it's nothing to do with this lifetime.
But I used to blame my fatherbecause he loved money,
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and I thought, oh, you're greedyand you're just flashing your money.
No, he's passionate about it.
I didn't get it until now that he.
I have to look at him now and say how funmoney just falls in his lap.
Right?
But I was like, growing up.
And I was like,oh, no, I don't look at me.
I lived in a nice houseand people would judge me.
And I was like, no, I don't want to
have all this money around mebecause whatever, right.
(35:35):
Another form of disempowerment, right?
Yes, yes.
Right. So I. Said, yeah, correct.
But then I woke up and I said, well,this is ain't working
because this is sabotaging my soulmission.
I'm never getting to express who I amand live the life
my heart and soul desire,because I'm so stuck and afraid
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of investing in anything that I'm
not going to get on my way to do anything.
And so I was like, I need to,you know, get into the root cause of this.
And it turned out it's not one thing.
So it ended up going back to my childhood,not in this lifetime,
but me experiencingother multidimensional aspects of myself
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in this lifetime, but as a childand as an adult, young adult,
meaning I had visitation from me.
My energy from other timewas playing their part
in other experiences coming to me
as a introduction, if you want to call itthat, for my karma that I'm working out.
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And I actually turned out I was
blaming coercing money in
because I was had several liveswhere I had
I was wealthy and I had a lot of money,
and I cursed it because all I wantedwas connection, relationship, all that.
And I got just fake relationshipsbecause people wanted me for my money,
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or I chose work over my wifein one of those lifetimes.
And she passed awayand I cursed my gold mine.
Because
what could I do with all the moneyand my gold
when my the only person I lovedpassed away?
Yeah.
So all of this came flushing upand I had to work on that.
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I had to go into those aspects and look,because the emotions of it
were still so much alive in my field.
And I had to see what really happened.
And so when I could turn around my
and understand that energy moneyspecifically is just a form of energy,
and I could unlock it from the spell,the curse that I put upon it,
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and to really dive deep and clear out allthat and forgive and ask for forgiveness.
And I did that through.
It's safe for me to have money.
And then I wouldsay, it's safe for you to have money.
And then I would say it's safefor her to have money.
And I would repeatthat as a multidimensional aspect.
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And I'm telling you, it work like magic.
And I love that. Like affirmations.
Yeah, yeah.
That's one of the thingsthat we've learned from quantum physics
is that we are actually really ableto interconnect, multidimensional
with our other lives.
We, you know, we call them past lives,but really
they're other live simultaneous livesthat we're still engaged with.
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And, you know, when wewe do this past life work that that we do
when we really want to go into the innerdimension with our intuition,
it can be so valuable because we can healour own, like life in this time, right?
We can heal our other lives as well.
So it really can bethis beautiful interdimensional experience
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guided by your intuitionand that that gives very real, tangible,
evidence and validation of themulti-dimensional reality that we live in.
So can I tell youI want to share something?
I'm sorry.
I'm so excited just to say that, toactually confirm everything that you said.
Because when I nailed that thing, it'sthat was divine timing also.
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But I felt the alignment.
I felt a shift in me, very huge shift.
My vibration was very much high.
And every time I used to get a billor I would something,
I would be like stressing.
I just felt nothing of that came up.
It was like, oh, thank you.It was so beautiful.
It was like, I get to now work with money,the energy of money.
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I completely forgot the energy partof the money because I cursed
and so wouldn't allow itself into my lifebecause I said no,
no, not in here.
I'm not entangling with you.
But when I finally got in, I was said,I'm healed.
This is I love money.
It's safe for me to have money.
It's safe for me to, invest money.
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It's safe for me to save money.
It's safe for me to give away money.
Like when I said all that,it just shifted my whole perspective.
And it only like, it's.
It's like you won't believe it,but it is true.
I shifted fromnot making almost any money
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to in one month, earning
three times what I did the last year.
Yep. Did you hear the whole last year?Three times.
I've only one month.
I'm not getting people.
I'm not getting I'm not going.Breakthrough.
I know what it's like for me.
It's either that or I'm like, are
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yeah,I know when I get it, I get huge rewards.
And so I could start using that moneyto expand, to move on my dreams,
to put more passion, to live and sell
all of my needs and wants and desires.
Did you see?
I did all three of them because I'm human,so I do have some preferences,
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but it was safe for methen it's safe for me to be me.
It's safe for me to love nice things.
Who are we to judge that path?
Right?
Where does that judgment come from?
Well,I can tell you part of it is because of,
you know, thethe forces that be the powers that be have
wanted us to stay in ain a low vibration state of lack,
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which is what we feel likewe are when we don't have money.
It's a psychology, right?
So not only does it lower our vibrationbecause we feel like we're dependent
and we don't have any control
over our lives or all of those things,the fear is living in the fear state.
All that createsthis sort of energetic frequency,
around money, even though we don't evenrealize we're dealing with it.
(41:49):
Right.
It's like unconscious,like always that hum that's sort of hum.
Right.
So there's that.
And then there's alsothis idea of materialism.
So and living in America,I, you know, we have,
the potentialto become very materialistic.
Right.
And we've been criticizedfor being very materialistic.
And that's sort of like the one sideis overreliance on materialism, right?
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We don't want to do that.
We don't want to, be gluttonous.
We don't want to be greedy,all of those things.
But at the other time, you know,none of the spiritual traditions
really said you have to be poor to see Godor to see the universe, right?
Poverty.It doesn't matter if you're rich and poor.
What matters is how attachedyou are to being rich or poor.
Right? Either rent right?
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It doesn't matter.
Correct. And the thing is, I can why?
I can stand in my power and love moneythe way I do
is because I live with integrity.
So even though I love the finerthings in life, it's not like
I will always choose because I am me
living with that high frequency.
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Choose what to where I put my money.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
I'm very aware of whereI'm spending my money, so it's not like
I'm going wild and being,you know, just buying things or whatever.
It's not that at all.
I'm actually very more aware of what,
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who and what do I wantto spend money on that.
But it high vibration that I could,you know, resonate with.
So it's again a resonance.
If I start loosing integrity,that's when it's going to fall apart
because you have to be trueto who you are.
And we have to rememberwe are all here on our separate journey,
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but togetherto learn through the oneness, right?
But then again,we're part of a collective.
But you have to honoryour individual journey.
And I was born into this familywhere I was taught about these things.
Why should I be judged for that?
I will not judge myself,but other people might do that.
But I can live in integrity with that.
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And I can, you know, use that energyfor the highest good of all.
That's the thingwe have to start understanding and not,
you know, I usually say that if I can do
all the shifts that I've gone through and,and come to a place and this realization
and open up to love money,which is my karma then,
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and say it proudly, like I'm doing thatwith no shame, then you can do it too.
I'm seriously because I was like,
horrible when it came to that.
I wouldn't even talk about it. I wouldn't.
Yeah, I've got so many stories.
I'm not going to just share them here.
But you know, I was like, no.
Yeah, it's something you hold space for.
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Like anything else.
You know, you have toyou have to be able to hold that space
and hold that energyas you sort of grow and evolve.
I think it becomes easier because ityou realize it isn't something that's
this sort of magical thingthat's really going to change your life.
It's just this thing on the perimeterthat you can embody or
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you cannot embody, or you can hold spacefor it or not hold space for it.
But why not hold space for it
if it's something that's goingto make your walk on Earth, a better
walk, more peacefulwalk with less fear, less anxiety,
ability to travel and see placesand expand your horizons.
All the good things about money, you know,
sharing, sharing a meal with peopleyou love, things you can do.
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You know, you don't have to be rich to dothe things that come with money, right?
But it's about using that moneyas an energy force to enrich your life
and not looking at itas something to either, really hide
or like brag about or oh, I'm rich or oh,I'm not like my kids, like,
you know, oh, I don't want to like peopleto see where I live, whether it's
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because it's a really nice placeor a really icky place, whatever.
It's just is. Right.
And all of the stuff is reallyjust comes to us based on the space
that that we are prepared to hold for it,good or bad.
It just is.
You know, I think it's key what you saidholding space.
Very much a fact. That's what I do.
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I think that, like I said, always
when I have my guest onthis is a sacred space.
I hold space for my guests.
I want my guests to feel the energy,to feel welcome to to vibe high,
to be at their bestso that they don't feel
that they're being questionedor judged or anything.
It's it's holding spaceand and we're very good.
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Some most of us are very goodat holding space for our children.
And for other people.
And then when it comes to ourselves,
we are not feeling worthy of holdingthat space, or we just have forgotten.
And we haven't been taughthow to hold space.
And I think that is essential
in order for usto allow these physical bodies to embody
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more of the light codesor the light frequencies
that are coming inthat's helping us ascend.
In order to be that new human,we have to hold that space for ourselves.
And we can do that throughusing into intention cards in order,
you know, to open sacred spaceand to have time for ourselves.
So I usually say that the seven stepfrequency activation that the order speak
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of is it's very simple when you look at itfrom a human perspective.
But when you start diving into goingdeeper into it,
we meet our limitation straight away.
We all our own fearsand limitation is like the first step is
you have to make time.
Sounds easy enough while you go aheadin your day and you try to space out time
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and then you say, well, I'm so busy,I'm this, my mother, I'm that.
And here goes the stories. Well, right.
We have to hold that space to know whowe are, how many people haven't,
you know, given theirall to their families and and children?
I, I love my family and y'all,but they don't get my very sense of self.
They don't get that right.
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Because then I'm depleted.
Then I can't be there for them.
I don't that mistake.
I've been all the way down to the bottom.
I had to dig myself out of a black hole.
I was depressed,and I didn't want to be around my children
because I had bad conscious,because I had bad energy, I had bad vibes,
and I didn't want to affect them.See how the spiritual thing
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in the Bad Thing in the Dark Placecan make you think?
It's like, you know,spiritual, bypassing people. Yes.
So to take ownership
and make that time,that hold that space for yourself,
if that's the only thing people takefrom this conversation, I think that's
powerful.
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Yeah.
Because at the end of the day,that's the thing that's going to shift
the needleis, is our ability to invest in ourselves
and to, really put our own personal growth,
as part of this, you know, thiswhole spectrum of experience we have, it's
so easy to get lost in, again,external things, supporting the families,
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making, making the money, whatever it isthat we're caught up in, in the world.
But that that sense of selfthat core sense of self,
that time, that space for the self hasto be the hub in the middle of all that.
Right?That's making all of that stuff work.
And we are pretty much taught inthis society that just forget about this
little self,just just give your energy away to this,
give your energy away to that.
Just just get depleted,depleted, depleted.
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And then that's how we have so many peoplethat are depressed or have anxiety
because we've lost thatthat anchor, that core self, that.
And what comes with that core self
is our connection to our deeper self,our higher self, our all knowing self
that allows us to make all the choicesas we go out into the world.
And so really shifting back to that,I say it all the time.
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I mean, it's really simple andbut it's like the hardest thing, right?
Sometimes it's the hardest thing.
But but making time, holding that spacefor yourself and your interconnection,
all that stuff flows from that.
Love it.
Well, once again, it's always beautifuland enlightening to speak with you, Kim.
But before we leave,
would you please tell the listenersor viewers, where can they find you
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and what's going on for youthis fall of 2025?
I'm just have to mention it.
Just because people get to this later on.
Yeah, this is an exciting time.
I'm launching,
a new pathway for intuitiondevelopment called the Illuminated Way.
And, it's really just, you know,I call it, like, yoga for your intuition.
(50:33):
We get together and
we create this sort of ritualfor ourselves, and, everyone's invited.
If you are, interested in deepeningyour interconnection, join us, please.
We'll just be spending time togetheron camera, off
in our own space, with our intuition,doing insight card work.
I will do you in a guided,intuitive meditation.
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We're going to be doing pathwaystuff, quantum consciousness stuff,
soulmates, exploration, all thiskind of really powerful inner work.
And doing this on a weekly basisso that we stay connected
and really can bring our intuitioninto our life.
So, really excited about that.
You can learn more about it.
My website,Kim testing.com or Intuition lab.com.
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And you can play with my insightcards on either website.
They're free.
So you can, start a conversation withthe part of you that knows everything.
Love it.
And I will, of course, place your websitein the episode description
so people can just check that outand find you right there.
Thanks so. Much.
Thank you so much,my friend, for being here.
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And I can't wait for our next conversationbecause we're going to
you're going to keep showing upbecause we have so much to share.
And in these transitional times,we we need to dive into other themes
and topics that will help us ascendand to reclaim our power and truly tune
into our intuition, to start trustingthat that is going to be very,
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very powerful in the future now as well,but in the path we're creating.
So thank you again and thank youeveryone for listening, tuning in.
We are sending you,Kim and I much love and light from us.
Bye bye.
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Rate.
I must say that we, we signed up for this.
I mean, we chose to come into this
duality,this this reality and create this reality.
And there is loss in order to create this,this reality.
And one of those laws is actuallywhat you just so beautifully
shared, the experiment of being human.
We have to experimentwith light and darkness
(00:22):
because we wouldn't know ourselvesunless we could cast
that shadow in order to see who we areand then to learn.
Oh well, that was interesting.
Let's see from a different perspective.
Is that really what is that?
Yeah. Like, is that me?
Is that actually my energy
or am I now playing out some other storythat I've been told?
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I'm back from holiday,and it's been wonderful just to relax,
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and just being in natureand enjoying what it means to be human
and to enjoy this life journey.
And therefore, I've decided to invite
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my very good friendKim Chesney for this discussion
we're going to have today,because it's a very,
well, let me just say this.
I'm very passionate about our discussion
because there are so many energy in motionright now.
And how do we navigate this?
Because we need to have some tools
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and we need to have some understandingas humans in order to navigate.
And I couldn't figure out anybodybetter than Kim Chesney intuition
Queen, to help us navigateand to dive into these topics
of how do we navigatethese transitional times.
So we know further ado.
Here is my good friend Kim Chesney.
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Hello.
Hello.
Because so great to see you.
It's great to see you too.
And you know, for the viewersand listeners, I just want to say
that you and I, we've had a history
now we have actually history together,which I think is so beautiful.
We've had some really great experiencestogether, and I'm feeling and sensing
(03:05):
as we are transits, transitioning thesethis difficult times for some people,
but just moving with East, shiftsthat we're experiencing,
we are actually getting even closer,like the concept of oneness.
And so when I mentioned,you know, what I was feeling
(03:26):
and sensing when I speak to people,you could relate completely.
It's like reading an open book, right?
And so I wanted to bring you onand have you share
and your take on what's going on,
and especially that concept of divinetiming
and spiritual bypassing,because I experience both of it
(03:50):
all the time.
So let's have a discussion around that.
But for those who don't know you,Kim, please just share a short intro of
who are you and what do you do?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm KimChesney and I have a passion for intuition
as because it's going to let you knowthroughout all of our work together,
(04:10):
we've collaborated on a lot of thingsand some wonderful
international retreats together.
And, you know, my whole lifeI've really been,
pretty much obsessed with understanding,intuition and its role in our life
and how, the modern missed it can use itto really elevate our awareness
of what's going on in this realityand beyond this reality, in everyday life.
(04:33):
So I'm really excited to be hereand talk about this.
And the subject is really importantbecause I think it's something
we all grapple with
and really understanding that,you know, the difference between,
you know, the, our, our pathwaythat's guided
by external forces and our pathwaythat's led by our inner light.
So I think it's a really importantconversation.
(04:55):
Yes, I love that. Use it. That's why.
Yeah, you're my go tobecause you are the expert.
You're the intuition queen.I gave you that name.
I mean, seriously, you know this.
You know your work.
I mean, you'repassionate, real passionate.
And that actually brings us into divinetiming, because let's use our connection.
(05:16):
I knew when I met you, that was what
I would refer to as divine timing.
And why do I say that?
Because I was aligned with my soulmission, my unique frequency,
and I had a really clear intentionof what I wanted.
With the Spiritual Quest podcastand the guests I wanted to bring on,
(05:37):
also because I needed thatin a personal perspective
to explore more,to have different perspectives.
Right.
So I had a clear intention,I had my thoughts
and my creativity combined,and of course, my heart.
I felt really, really alignedand so it was a flow.
(05:58):
And I knew when I was just
writing outto ask people to get on my podcast
or if they wanted to be on my podcast,I started instead of receiving
emails of peoplewho had suggestions for me.
So in the beginning, I was out there
searchingfor guests based on my intention.
(06:21):
But as soon as I locked in that key,
which I called divine Timing,it all just flew.
Like when I was ready,
they showed up, you showed up.
And so I knew when I connected with youthat this was something special.
So for me, just giving,you know, our story to my belief
of what divine timing is.
(06:43):
I would love to hear your perspectiveon that.
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
I couldn't agree with you more.
Alignment, in my experience, really isthat sign of divine timing a lot of times.
And what happens is, for those of youwho know the way
I approach intuition,I see intuition as a quantum function.
So in my mind, what's really happeningwhen we are ready for change,
(07:05):
when we're readyto invite new things into our life,
when we're following that inner light,that inner guidance,
that's actually a quantum connectionto the invisible field around us
that connects us all that allows, the part of myself that knows everything
to connect to your part of yourself,that knows everything.
Working behind the scenes, makingall these connections and dots, align
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even though our
small sort of conscious mindsthat are here, present in this reality
may not be aware of it, but there isour higher self, a higher part of us.
That's that's sort of lining
all of these things up for our growth,for our benefit, for our expansion.
Right.
And that's why intuition is so importantis because that that deep dimension,
moves through our intuitionand aligns us with these things,
(07:51):
that really bring us to growth and,and show us the way and, and but.
Right.
Which I kind of want
to segue into this next topic that I thinkwhere you're going to take this,
it doesn't mean that only thingsthat are aligned
perfectly and sort of magically appearbefore us are the way,
because there is the way of growthand challenge and friction,
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which is also part of this divine timing.
And I kind of, in my mind, comes togetherlike this beautiful symphony
of ease and, and push and,and that's what makes life
sort of generate that energythat allows us to grow and expand.
I love that, and I love that you said thatbecause I was sitting
reflectingas you were speaking about what you were
(08:35):
actually talking about is harmonizing,right?
You're in harmonywith the universal forces.
And as we are being entangledwith that harmony, we're playing
that vibrationthat's resonating and it's harmonizing.
So when I called youin, I would say I called you in.
It was a calling on my soul.
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I'm going to be I called you in. Yeah.
But that's the thing. It's the harmony.
We resonate.
It was the harmonizationthat this is what we need at this time.
And so that will also, like you said,
allow you to expand on that. Right.
So we can grow into thatand we can shift and rise it.
So there's new things coming in.
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We can entangle with other energy.
So in other vibrations,that's how I see at the expansion level
when I channel, like, I started tochannel Zaharias in the order of seven.
I did that for seven years before.
Well, the truth is, I had 1 or 2that step forward energies wise,
but I, I was training myselfto harmonize with their vibration.
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They so I could separate to seewhat's mine and what's theirs,
so that I could actually feeland sense and know on a deep level
what was for my highest good like.
But it didn't mean that I didn't.
I wasn't put in difficult situation.
Kim, like you're saying to grow.
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So I did in the beginning allow
to channel lower entities.
I didn't do that for a long time.
I actually had people in the roomas I did that, so they assisted me.
So but the lesson here I want to shareis that
people would ask me,why would Zaharias, in the order of seven
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do that, allow you,if they chose you as a channel,
how would they allow energiesto step in negative or lower entities?
Well,hey, I'm the one who's on this journey.
I'm the creator of what I allow.
And, it's my vibration, my thoughts,
my well-being, soul sovereignty.
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I talk about that all the time,but it is me opening up.
They are never going to take awaymy lessons, so I cannot sit here and say,
Oh God, come and help me or Zaharias,help me out of this.
I can ask for guidance,but I would use my intuition.
I would have to come to a placewhere I could feel
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and sense that what I was,
my vibration,the resonance, was pure enough
for me to trust thatwhat came in was the right thing.
So I would have to clear andand work on my energy
and do other kind of energy workbefore I would put myself in the situation
of opening up and allowing energyin, again, soul sovereignty.
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So let's explore that concept for a bit.
Right from your perspective,how do we entangle with vibrations
and how can we,
knowing that we want to be in the flow,to have some alignment in order
to have divine timing unfoldand not go into spiritual bypassing?
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Because I think I did thatwhen I order allow that in.
Do you understand?
Like I wanted to expand on it and yes,it was a lesson, but I had to move
through it on the other side,if you know what I mean.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I think it kind of
goes back sometimes to that statementthat adversity builds character, right?
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It's those challenges that we havethat are our learning lessons.
So even though you might not have chosen
consciously to engage with those entities,
there is a part of you that needed youto understand what that was like.
And then you can actually talk about it,right, and share with other people
and explain, you know, how not to do thator why you shouldn't, right?
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Because unless you personally experienceit, you might not even believe in it.
Right?
So there's that.
So, so we can we can engagein those challenging activities
to learn from them because everything isideally a learning experience.
But, you know,I think ultimately we want to align with,
you know, that highest path,that best path.
And that's what our intuitionalways wants us to connect with, even
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even if it does take us on some long route
somehow it's really all for our own good,our own expansion.
So I always say you're never in betterhands than when you trust your gut.
So, the short answer to that question is,I think
putting everything to,to the test of your intuition.
That is key, right?
Like, and, you know, we talked about thisa little bit earlier, but
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not relying on external forcesas people in the spiritual community.
We have, a lot of, you know, rituals.
And we have a lot of fun that we do thingslike angel numbers or, you know, signs.
Synchronicities are a very important partof how we relate to the universe.
But that's not the be all and end all.
And I think that sometimeswe can still get caught up on.
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Oh, if, you know, oh,if the stars aren't aligned a certain way,
then that's not the path for me.
Or, that's like a birdsflew over that way.
So I shouldn't go, right?
So we don't realize that we're stillputting our power outside of us, right?
So that's the key.
We don't want to put our poweroutside of us for anything.
Not other people.
Not the flock of birds. Not, I'm not.
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Saying your dog,not you know, social media. I,
Like all of these things.
Our friends and family. Sure.
We can take all of that stuffin as information,
but at the end of the day, we have onetrue God, and that's within us.
That's our intuition.
So everything we do, we have to be surewe are connecting with that.
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Right?
So no, don't let whether or notlike some piece of technology works,
be your answer or don't let
like I was tell peoplewe work with insight cards a lot.
You know that.
So there's sort of like Oracle cards,but they're really just designed
to help you to really understand yourself.
Right.
And when people do readings.
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Yeah, I say don't ever ask someoneto make a decision for you.
Like,oh, should I go marry this person? No.
You know, you don't ask someone elsefor that information.
You could ask someone else for insightabout the situation, right?
Like, oh, right.
There's this dynamicor that dynamic or whatever.
But you never ask someone elseto make a decision for you
or to take away your power.
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That is a cardinal rule or prime directiveof all of the intuition work I do.
So, getting in the habitof turning into ourselves
to really rely on ourselves,check in with ourselves
and our heart, and that resonantfeeling like you were talking about.
You know the truth,by the way it feels right.
Do you have that feeling of resonancewithin you?
That's a better testthan any of these other things
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that allow us to sortof spiritually bypass making the decisions
that, can, can make or break usor to allow us to grow
or have those radical successesthat we may be a little afraid of,
and we just look for excusesnot to take those that path.
So at the end of the day,it's it's that tuning,
tuning in to that inner lightand that inner resonance.
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I think that really makes a difference.
It makes all the difference,I think, because
it's all about being awareof your own energy
and other people's energy in orderto be able to reclaim what is yours.
Because the thing is, we have a lot of
history, especially as females,
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of being imprinted with certain patternsor imprints
that holds us, that restricts
us or our energy in some way or another.
And so we are carrying those imprints,and they are a collective
that is now as we are ascending, it'sbecoming more available,
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more clear to usthat we have been suppressed.
And we need to reclaim our authenticityand our voice.
And that's the vibrational attunementwe're talking about
in order to embrace and accept our unique
energy signature.
Let's call it that.
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Yeah.
And in that there is a lot of,
bypassing going on
because of the fear that's been pushed
upon us that we've been imprinted withand that we are not aware of.
Because when we're talking about, my experience
because I do workdo this work with clients, I can see that
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there's a lot of past livesas we are sending out and
and people are, you know,I want to fulfill my soul mission.
I feel I'm feeling the call.
But then
moving awayand letting go of the old time, to shift
for the highest good, it's suddenly,well, I'm not good enough.
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Well, I'm not worthy.
I'm not safe in doing this.
All of this.
And my self-doubt is coming up,
and then it's like, well,if everything that we just shared
about divine timing, it's be now
being used as an excuse.
Well, if it's not meant, it'snot it's not divine timing.
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Exactly.
Again, we are allowing the negativeforces, external forces
to dictate our own ascension process 100%.
And we need to stop.
We need to stop and say, okay.
That's the same thing.
We're tricking ourselves because we'relike, oh, we're doing something spiritual.
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We're doing this,but we're really self-sabotaging. Yes.
And we need to stop doing that.
And I'm yeah, I'm,I'm still a I've done it,
but at least I'm awarenow through the process, I've been there.
Like you've said, I've done the mistakesin order to learn and grow.
And I want to share with youjust to put that into perspective,
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when I did channelthose lower frequencies,
what I do in my work today, I actuallysupport others who have attachments.
I can clear that because I know howthe negative forces entities work.
So not only do
I have that as a social aspect, becauseI've been working with lower Vibrations,
I've actually channeled it.
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So I know the different frequency of high
frequency, low frequency,light darkness and I can use
because I've built up my own resiliencethrough reclaiming my power
and living in integritywith who I am as a multidimensional being.
I'm always safebecause I know and it's a knowingness.
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I know that whatever I decide,I can create.
And so as long as I vibrate and resonance,right, high frequency,
I co-create with spirit and I know how to discern my energy.
But I wouldn't have known all thisif I hadn't done what I shared.
Right.
And so then again.
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But it's all again, divine timing.
But it's a movement of frequency.
It's like a risein understanding and awareness.
So you can havethe different perspectives.
But the thing is, we need to ground it.
And a lot of people is very spiritual,not open.
They don't know howto ground those vibration
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because the physical bodyhas not been brought with the journey.
It's kind of it's been neglected.
We seek and we expand,and we're forgetting that
this beautiful human bodyneeds to carry that vibration
and that those light codesand the new templates
that are being activatedby the ascension process and by us
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consciously becoming aware that, oh,I do have a choice here,
right?
I choose something different from my lifeand we start doing that.
There will be a ring effectalso for the human.
You will see people and friendsand family members maybe question you,
you willfully negative.
You have to stand firmly in your powerand believe in yourself.
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Yeah, we know that everything we carry,we have within us,
and we are the creators,and we know that we and we are inspired
and we are being creativeand we are being passionate.
Nothing touches us when we're in that. No.
Absolutely.
And so that is our safe space.
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And and that's. What we should be making.
Yeah.
Your decisions need to comefrom that energetic frequency, right?
Yay I love it because that's why
I can never take awaythat creativity, that
passion that can never play that partin a relationship.
Never. It's an energy exchange.
That's something that just feeds youwhat you want to hear,
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and then shifts in the wayit addresses you,
in eluding you in to falling asleep,just in a different perspective, you know?
And it's so true.
That is so true.
It really is.
It's going to be really interestingwhere all the eye stuff goes,
you know, looking at it more, as you know,from a collaborative perspective,
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like it's perspective is that it's thereto support us and help us create.
But where, where, you know, itis that sort of energy exchange.
And that's what's characteristic of like,living beings, sentient beings.
Yeah.
So it's that's going to be interesting tosee how that actually starts playing out.
And I, I honestly feel likewhere we're at with AI is like how we were
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when the internet started,like we can't even really fully
comprehend, like, remember the first timeyou saw the internet?
Like we can remember thatright in our generation.
The first time I saw the internet,I was like, on, what can you do with this?
We can't even comprehendwhat what this AI is going to bring.
So we have to be vigilant.
We have to use our own intuitive,discernment to, you know,
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see where it takes usand to be very, very, watchful.
You, sir.
Right.
You're so right.
And I'm just reflecting on the kidsat this time because I do have, you know,
young adults. I would call them now.
There will always be my children,but they're young adults
just seeing how much time they spend
on social media and the algorithm and I,
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I was actually made aware through a client
that, was interacting with an AI,and the AI started to
and it was a spiritual AI,if you want to call it that.
I would tell you about your star originand who you were.
And we keep forgetting that everythingthat we put into our computer just our,
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you know, ourour keyboard, it's all being read.
It's all part of it.
Yeah,it's programing and it's being read by AI.
And so
everything that we are creating,putting into they have a footprint.
I call it footprintjust because it's not a blueprint, it's
a footprint of who they areand they can feed that back to you.
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So you just to hook you.
It's a good sales pitch.
They're going to get you
because they're going to get your emotionbecause they're going to speak your word.
They're going to do everythingthat you are always wanted to hear
and to make it interesting,to give you the importance
you're not feeling in yourself.
They're going to make everything
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sound so beautiful, is so interesting,
and you're going to start listening,and then you're going to wake up
and you're going to see, oh, wow,I just gave my power away.
Because then you're then you're controlled
in another perspective,being controlled by external forces.
All we are doingnow is reclaiming and learning how
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to not try to control anything.
Because like you said, intuition.
You don't need to control anything.
Your intuition will guide you.
What we need
is trust in our self and the intuition
and being able to release controlbecause we are the creators.
So why do you need to control what you arecreating?
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Great question, great question.
Especially if you know we're Scorpios.
So control is a real issue for us.
I know
I'm a recovering control freak,I admit it.
Right.
So, I think it's it is really important
to realize that,
you know, we are as co-creators.
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No one's ever in control, right?
We're just riding the wave.
And we can be on that surfboard, andwe can determine which way we want to go.
But we're, you know, we're
participating in this with the universeas a co-creative venture.
And the morewe try to actually control things,
and the morewe squeeze the life out of it, right?
And the smaller our world becomes.
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So having that sort of relaxed controlthat, you know,
that's sort of control and so farthat we are aligned with our self.
That's really the best form of controlfor us is knowing I'm always doing
what's true to myself, alignwith my heart, align with my vibration.
That's the control I have.
I have the ability to alignor dis align with,
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with the energy frequency of expansionand growth and light
and all the good thingswe want to do in the world.
And that that'sthat's the main point of control.
And then from there, lifecan just take us to these beautiful places
and show us these things,and take us even to challenges.
Right.
Again, it's not always going to be easy
that we weren'twe didn't come here for an easy life.
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Earth is not an easy place.
I mean, obviously,
I mean, it goes without saying,look around at what happens in this place.
We're here to learn through it,through duality and adversity.
That's what duality is.
It's,you know, adversity, change, friction.
All of those things are characteristicsof the physical reality that we live in.
So, embracing that understanding that,you know, friction
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gives us an opportunity to growand see something a new way
and to face ourselvesor to, open up our minds.
All of these things are things that we
can't necessarily do with the flow,because when we're in the flow,
we're we're just going along with,you know, where we're being taken.
But what you really wake up,we do need friction.
So many of us have had awakenings throughpainful experiences or through loss
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or grief or, you know, these sort of painlike, oh, I can't take this anymore.
So it's a beautiful thing, frictionin a way.
Right. And all of this,we understand why it exists.
So, when you're going throughall this, though, at the end of the day,
it just comes back to thatvery simple concept of
of aligning with your intuitionand going with your intuition
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no matter what, whether it's the easy wayor whether it's a challenge.
If you stay, you know, true to thatfeeling, that resonance within you.
And just hold on eitherway, hold on for the ride.
And that's really the secret sauce,I think, to to having a magical,
happy, challenging, beautiful, messy,but wonderful life.
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Yeah. And I so agree with you.
And I must say that we,we signed up for this.
I mean, we chose to come into this
duality,this this reality and create this reality.
And there is loss in order to create this,this reality.
And one of those laws is actuallywhat you just so beautifully
shared, the experiment of being human.
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We have to experimentwith light and darkness
because we
wouldn't know ourselvesunless we could cast that shadow
in order to see who we areand then to learn.
Oh well, that was interesting.
Let's see from a different perspective.
Is that really what is that?
Yeah. Like, is that me?
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Is that actually my energy
or am I now playing out some other storythat I've been told?
Is it truly who I am?
So again,I love the way that order says it,
because there are two souls,mainly on this planet today.
I don't like to like really.
I'm sure there's more,but let's say 80% just to give a number.
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It's just for the discussion.
So you have the souls coming here to grow
mainly focus,growing, expansion, grow, grow, grow.
And then you have the soulscoming here to serve.
And of course, it's not one or the other,
but it's it's something that they told methat I thought was beautiful.
They said, if you want to findyour authentic vibration,
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you find your callingor your soul mission.
Call it what you wantand you find your karma.
And when you work them equally,you will get a harmony,
a frictionwhich will activate your own channel.
And from that the creative forcesis flowing through your channel
and you becoming that creatorof all of heaven on earth.
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And you can ground that groundedinto this physical experience.
And that's how we shift our reality,right? Yes.
It meansthen we have to deal with the dark things,
and we have to understandour multidimensional nature
and be aware of not,you know, not only the physical energy,
but the energy of the whole universethat we are entangled with,
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that we are choosing based on our soulsexpansion and this human journey
and what we're here to teachor to expand on or to learn
whatever you want to say or call it,it needs to.
It's entangled.
It needs to flow. Yes,we need to be aware.
And so it's allabout just knowing ourselves.
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And I wantto share this because I just got this.
I just found peace with thislike the last year.
And that was in the beginning of mechanneling.
It's in the first book.
The first time I met Zacharias,I asked him or I didn't ask,
but I was asked by another and I asked himin channeling, what is my soul name?
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And he said, just, I call you Enigma.
Here's I miss Enigma.
I was like, okay,what the heck does that mean?
But then I got itbecause I could never figure myself out.
And when I thought I knew what I was,everything shifted and I was like, what?
What's that?
And then I finally found peace to say,oh, wow, I don't think I ever going
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to really understand myself,but as long as I'm authentic
in my exploration and I'min my experimental in this reality,
I will always have the resources availablethrough my multidimensional aspects
to choose them to move around
and to move in a directionof high vibration. Yes.
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And and I just finally said, oh,
I love Enigma because it's just fun,because I never know
what I'm going to get.
And that's the right attitude, right?
Because we areI mean, it is actually impossible for us
to fully understand ourselvesbecause we only know a part of ourself,
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or we're like a glacier
with a little bit above water,and that's what we call ourselves.
But there's this whole other deeper thingthere that's part of us
that we just don't have full access towith our brains.
The human brain can only store and processso much information,
and it does enoughfor us to live in this moment
and live in this reality. It'swhat we need to be here
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and learn our lessonsand have our life adventures.
We just can't fully conceiveof all of this other stuff.
So, you know, recognizing thatand knowing that you have we all sort of
have that deep enigma within usthat that we don't
we can't fully know ourselves,but we can know ourselves enough.
And astrology is actually a
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really good tool for for learning to knowthat the top of the glacier.
Right.This is the energy I'm working with.
This is sort of the energy packetI've been given in this reality.
And, and I'm going to work with this,and this is who I am.
And I call me here.
But the real me is so much more right.
It's so much more.
And that's why I love using your insightscards.
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Also with my clients, becauseit allows you to explore that enigma.
It takes you down a pathyou didn't even know.
It depends on your intentionfor using the card.
Of course it called intention cards,
but it like when we use it,we can get all the answer.
It's like itopening a gateway to your soul
and to that multidimensional nature.
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And so if you practice
being in stillnessand being in that sacred space of yours,
your sacred space and making time,
prioritizing, listening and tuning inwards
and then going into that deeper aspect,as you say, of this iceberg,
to get to know it, not to judge it,because we're learned to judge parts
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of ourselves, but to explore.
It's an adventure.
And when you look at everythingthat you even your fears,
even your insecurities,even your self-doubt,
if you could be curious enoughto deep dive and see, oh, I wonder why.
Let's see what my intuition can tell meabout this.
Let's see what this cards can bring,and just allow yourself to open up
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and just see what comes.
And then write.
Write it downso beautifully as you teach people to do.
And then see what comes up.
I always, always get the most beautiful,beautiful answers.
And you know how it isto work on yourself.
I don't know about you,but I it's difficult.
I cannot read myself.
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I have to meet myself and go,let's do this to be with you.
Okay? Let's get this.
So I have to kind of shiftmy perspectives,
and I'm going to give this gift,this to people
if they want to try this,because I love this.
In order for me to shift perspectiveswhen I'm integrating,
I always let me see this.
If I am in a situation where I'm triggered
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an old wound or somethingthat I've been working on,
like let me use money issue,a lot of people have money issues
or have a lack or limitationwhen it comes to money.
And so I've figured outwhy I've done the work,
and it's nothing to do with this lifetime.
But I used to blame my fatherbecause he loved money,
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and I thought, oh, you're greedyand you're just flashing your money.
No, he's passionate about it.
I didn't get it until now that he.
I have to look at him now and say how funmoney just falls in his lap.
Right?
But I was like, growing up.
And I was like,oh, no, I don't look at me.
I lived in a nice houseand people would judge me.
And I was like, no, I don't want to
have all this money around mebecause whatever, right.
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Another form of disempowerment, right?
Yes, yes.
Right. So I. Said, yeah, correct.
But then I woke up and I said, well,this is ain't working
because this is sabotaging my soulmission.
I'm never getting to express who I amand live the life
my heart and soul desire,because I'm so stuck and afraid
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of investing in anything that I'm
not going to get on my way to do anything.
And so I was like, I need to,you know, get into the root cause of this.
And it turned out it's not one thing.
So it ended up going back to my childhood,not in this lifetime,
but me experiencingother multidimensional aspects of myself
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in this lifetime, but as a childand as an adult, young adult,
meaning I had visitation from me.
My energy from other timewas playing their part
in other experiences coming to me
as a introduction, if you want to call itthat, for my karma that I'm working out.
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And I actually turned out I was
blaming coercing money in
because I was had several liveswhere I had
I was wealthy and I had a lot of money,
and I cursed it because all I wantedwas connection, relationship, all that.
And I got just fake relationshipsbecause people wanted me for my money,
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or I chose work over my wifein one of those lifetimes.
And she passed awayand I cursed my gold mine.
Because
what could I do with all the moneyand my gold
when my the only person I lovedpassed away?
Yeah.
So all of this came flushing upand I had to work on that.
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I had to go into those aspects and look,because the emotions of it
were still so much alive in my field.
And I had to see what really happened.
And so when I could turn around my
and understand that energy moneyspecifically is just a form of energy,
and I could unlock it from the spell,the curse that I put upon it,
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and to really dive deep and clear out allthat and forgive and ask for forgiveness.
And I did that through.
It's safe for me to have money.
And then I wouldsay, it's safe for you to have money.
And then I would say it's safefor her to have money.
And I would repeatthat as a multidimensional aspect.
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And I'm telling you, it work like magic.
And I love that. Like affirmations.
Yeah, yeah.
That's one of the thingsthat we've learned from quantum physics
is that we are actually really ableto interconnect, multidimensional
with our other lives.
We, you know, we call them past lives,but really
they're other live simultaneous livesthat we're still engaged with.
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And, you know, when wewe do this past life work that that we do
when we really want to go into the innerdimension with our intuition,
it can be so valuable because we can healour own, like life in this time, right?
We can heal our other lives as well.
So it really can bethis beautiful interdimensional experience
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guided by your intuitionand that that gives very real, tangible,
evidence and validation of themulti-dimensional reality that we live in.
So can I tell youI want to share something?
I'm sorry.
I'm so excited just to say that, toactually confirm everything that you said.
Because when I nailed that thing, it'sthat was divine timing also.
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But I felt the alignment.
I felt a shift in me, very huge shift.
My vibration was very much high.
And every time I used to get a billor I would something,
I would be like stressing.
I just felt nothing of that came up.
It was like, oh, thank you.It was so beautiful.
It was like, I get to now work with money,the energy of money.
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I completely forgot the energy partof the money because I cursed
and so wouldn't allow itself into my lifebecause I said no,
no, not in here.
I'm not entangling with you.
But when I finally got in, I was said,I'm healed.
This is I love money.
It's safe for me to have money.
It's safe for me to, invest money.
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It's safe for me to save money.
It's safe for me to give away money.
Like when I said all that,it just shifted my whole perspective.
And it only like, it's.
It's like you won't believe it,but it is true.
I shifted fromnot making almost any money
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to in one month, earning
three times what I did the last year.
Yep. Did you hear the whole last year?Three times.
I've only one month.
I'm not getting people.
I'm not getting I'm not going.Breakthrough.
I know what it's like for me.
It's either that or I'm like, are
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yeah,I know when I get it, I get huge rewards.
And so I could start using that moneyto expand, to move on my dreams,
to put more passion, to live and sell
all of my needs and wants and desires.
Did you see?
I did all three of them because I'm human,so I do have some preferences,
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but it was safe for methen it's safe for me to be me.
It's safe for me to love nice things.
Who are we to judge that path?
Right?
Where does that judgment come from?
Well,I can tell you part of it is because of,
you know, thethe forces that be the powers that be have
wanted us to stay in ain a low vibration state of lack,
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which is what we feel likewe are when we don't have money.
It's a psychology, right?
So not only does it lower our vibrationbecause we feel like we're dependent
and we don't have any control
over our lives or all of those things,the fear is living in the fear state.
All that createsthis sort of energetic frequency,
around money, even though we don't evenrealize we're dealing with it.
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Right.
It's like unconscious,like always that hum that's sort of hum.
Right.
So there's that.
And then there's alsothis idea of materialism.
So and living in America,I, you know, we have,
the potentialto become very materialistic.
Right.
And we've been criticizedfor being very materialistic.
And that's sort of like the one sideis overreliance on materialism, right?
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We don't want to do that.
We don't want to, be gluttonous.
We don't want to be greedy,all of those things.
But at the other time, you know,none of the spiritual traditions
really said you have to be poor to see Godor to see the universe, right?
Poverty.It doesn't matter if you're rich and poor.
What matters is how attachedyou are to being rich or poor.
Right? Either rent right?
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It doesn't matter.
Correct. And the thing is, I can why?
I can stand in my power and love moneythe way I do
is because I live with integrity.
So even though I love the finerthings in life, it's not like
I will always choose because I am me
living with that high frequency.
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Choose what to where I put my money.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
I'm very aware of whereI'm spending my money, so it's not like
I'm going wild and being,you know, just buying things or whatever.
It's not that at all.
I'm actually very more aware of what,
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who and what do I wantto spend money on that.
But it high vibration that I could,you know, resonate with.
So it's again a resonance.
If I start loosing integrity,that's when it's going to fall apart
because you have to be trueto who you are.
And we have to rememberwe are all here on our separate journey,
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but togetherto learn through the oneness, right?
But then again,we're part of a collective.
But you have to honoryour individual journey.
And I was born into this familywhere I was taught about these things.
Why should I be judged for that?
I will not judge myself,but other people might do that.
But I can live in integrity with that.
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And I can, you know, use that energyfor the highest good of all.
That's the thingwe have to start understanding and not,
you know, I usually say that if I can do
all the shifts that I've gone through and,and come to a place and this realization
and open up to love money,which is my karma then,
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and say it proudly, like I'm doing thatwith no shame, then you can do it too.
I'm seriously because I was like,
horrible when it came to that.
I wouldn't even talk about it. I wouldn't.
Yeah, I've got so many stories.
I'm not going to just share them here.
But you know, I was like, no.
Yeah, it's something you hold space for.
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Like anything else.
You know, you have toyou have to be able to hold that space
and hold that energyas you sort of grow and evolve.
I think it becomes easier because ityou realize it isn't something that's
this sort of magical thingthat's really going to change your life.
It's just this thing on the perimeterthat you can embody or
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you cannot embody, or you can hold spacefor it or not hold space for it.
But why not hold space for it
if it's something that's goingto make your walk on Earth, a better
walk, more peacefulwalk with less fear, less anxiety,
ability to travel and see placesand expand your horizons.
All the good things about money, you know,
sharing, sharing a meal with peopleyou love, things you can do.
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You know, you don't have to be rich to dothe things that come with money, right?
But it's about using that moneyas an energy force to enrich your life
and not looking at itas something to either, really hide
or like brag about or oh, I'm rich or oh,I'm not like my kids, like,
you know, oh, I don't want to like peopleto see where I live, whether it's
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because it's a really nice placeor a really icky place, whatever.
It's just is. Right.
And all of the stuff is reallyjust comes to us based on the space
that that we are prepared to hold for it,good or bad.
It just is.
You know, I think it's key what you saidholding space.
Very much a fact. That's what I do.
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I think that, like I said, always
when I have my guest onthis is a sacred space.
I hold space for my guests.
I want my guests to feel the energy,to feel welcome to to vibe high,
to be at their bestso that they don't feel
that they're being questionedor judged or anything.
It's it's holding spaceand and we're very good.
(46:35):
Some most of us are very goodat holding space for our children.
And for other people.
And then when it comes to ourselves,
we are not feeling worthy of holdingthat space, or we just have forgotten.
And we haven't been taughthow to hold space.
And I think that is essential
in order for usto allow these physical bodies to embody
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more of the light codesor the light frequencies
that are coming inthat's helping us ascend.
In order to be that new human,we have to hold that space for ourselves.
And we can do that throughusing into intention cards in order,
you know, to open sacred spaceand to have time for ourselves.
So I usually say that the seven stepfrequency activation that the order speak
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of is it's very simple when you look at itfrom a human perspective.
But when you start diving into goingdeeper into it,
we meet our limitation straight away.
We all our own fearsand limitation is like the first step is
you have to make time.
Sounds easy enough while you go aheadin your day and you try to space out time
(47:38):
and then you say, well, I'm so busy,I'm this, my mother, I'm that.
And here goes the stories. Well, right.
We have to hold that space to know whowe are, how many people haven't,
you know, given theirall to their families and and children?
I, I love my family and y'all,but they don't get my very sense of self.
They don't get that right.
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Because then I'm depleted.
Then I can't be there for them.
I don't that mistake.
I've been all the way down to the bottom.
I had to dig myself out of a black hole.
I was depressed,and I didn't want to be around my children
because I had bad conscious,because I had bad energy, I had bad vibes,
and I didn't want to affect them.See how the spiritual thing
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in the Bad Thing in the Dark Placecan make you think?
It's like, you know,spiritual, bypassing people. Yes.
So to take ownership
and make that time,that hold that space for yourself,
if that's the only thing people takefrom this conversation, I think that's
powerful.
(48:42):
Yeah.
Because at the end of the day,that's the thing that's going to shift
the needleis, is our ability to invest in ourselves
and to, really put our own personal growth,
as part of this, you know, thiswhole spectrum of experience we have, it's
so easy to get lost in, again,external things, supporting the families,
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making, making the money, whatever it isthat we're caught up in, in the world.
But that that sense of selfthat core sense of self,
that time, that space for the self hasto be the hub in the middle of all that.
Right?That's making all of that stuff work.
And we are pretty much taught inthis society that just forget about this
little self,just just give your energy away to this,
give your energy away to that.
Just just get depleted,depleted, depleted.
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And then that's how we have so many peoplethat are depressed or have anxiety
because we've lost thatthat anchor, that core self, that.
And what comes with that core self
is our connection to our deeper self,our higher self, our all knowing self
that allows us to make all the choicesas we go out into the world.
And so really shifting back to that,I say it all the time.
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I mean, it's really simple andbut it's like the hardest thing, right?
Sometimes it's the hardest thing.
But but making time, holding that spacefor yourself and your interconnection,
all that stuff flows from that.
Love it.
Well, once again, it's always beautifuland enlightening to speak with you, Kim.
But before we leave,
would you please tell the listenersor viewers, where can they find you
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and what's going on for youthis fall of 2025?
I'm just have to mention it.
Just because people get to this later on.
Yeah, this is an exciting time.
I'm launching,
a new pathway for intuitiondevelopment called the Illuminated Way.
And, it's really just, you know,I call it, like, yoga for your intuition.
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We get together and
we create this sort of ritualfor ourselves, and, everyone's invited.
If you are, interested in deepeningyour interconnection, join us, please.
We'll just be spending time togetheron camera, off
in our own space, with our intuition,doing insight card work.
I will do you in a guided,intuitive meditation.
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We're going to be doing pathwaystuff, quantum consciousness stuff,
soulmates, exploration, all thiskind of really powerful inner work.
And doing this on a weekly basisso that we stay connected
and really can bring our intuitioninto our life.
So, really excited about that.
You can learn more about it.
My website,Kim testing.com or Intuition lab.com.
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And you can play with my insightcards on either website.
They're free.
So you can, start a conversation withthe part of you that knows everything.
Love it.
And I will, of course, place your websitein the episode description
so people can just check that outand find you right there.
Thanks so. Much.
Thank you so much,my friend, for being here.
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And I can't wait for our next conversationbecause we're going to
you're going to keep showing upbecause we have so much to share.
And in these transitional times,we we need to dive into other themes
and topics that will help us ascendand to reclaim our power and truly tune
into our intuition, to start trustingthat that is going to be very,
(52:02):
very powerful in the future now as well,but in the path we're creating.
So thank you again and thank youeveryone for listening, tuning in.
We are sending you,Kim and I much love and light from us.
Bye bye.
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