December 18, 2024 • 51 mins
Step into the spiritual transformation of 2025 with renowned numerologist Novalee Wilder as she explores the influence of the Mars-ruled Nine energy. This episode reveals how 2025 invites endings, fresh starts, and alignment with your higher purpose.
Discover how numerology can provide intuitive tools to release old patterns, co-create balance, and awaken your true self. With a focus on personal leadership, ethical action, and spiritual growth, 2025 offers lightworkers and seekers the chance to impact the collective through conscious co-creation.
🌟 Key Topics Covered:
- Numerology’s role in your soul path and transformation (03:00)
- The Mars-ruled Nine energy and its meaning for 2025 (06:30)
- Endings, new beginnings, and spiritual awakening (10:45)
- Releasing old patterns and aligning with spirit (15:15)
- Tapping into intuitive guidance and higher consciousness (21:00)
- Manifestation, lightwork, and collective transformation (35:55)
🌌 What You’ll Learn:
- How numerology aligns you with your soul mission.
- Tools for lightwork, spiritual awakening, and sacred purpose.
- Practical insights to co-create your divine path with confidence.
Join us to explore the significance of 2025, empowering you to step into your unique power and a life of positive transformation.
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So on a global level, we are seeing thingswe have never seen before.
(00:04):
I feel like that in the US with certainthings we're seeing, things
we've never seen before,and we have to kind of go, I can't
when people are like, I can't believewith the election what happened.
I both want to sayyou haven't seen anything yet,
but also like, where have you been?
Like, let's be honest.
Yes, let's be really honest.
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Eight energy says,why are you pretending to be blind?
Saturn says this lesson is not going away.
Welcome to the Spiritual Quest podcast,
a transformative journeywhere we step into a world of wonder
and exploration,seeking answers to profound questions.
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Why am I here?
What is my mission in life and how can Imake a positive impact in this world?
Join me and my inspiring gueston a spiritual quest to fully embrace
your uniqueness and speak your truthwith grace and gratitude.
I am your host,Rebecca Garner, always guided by spirit.
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Hello.
Hello beautiful people.
Welcome to another exciting episodeof the Spiritual Quest podcast.
Today we'll be looking intothe hidden messages of 2025
through the power of numerology,
and I'm thrilled to have Novalee Wilderback on the show with us.
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She's a visionary professional neurologistrenowned for her transformative guidance
in both personal and business realms,
and as the authorof A Little Bit of Numerology
and a Little Bit of Angel numbers novel,Lee channels her profound
understanding of numbersinto empowering insights.
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She's also the founderof the Numerology school
and the voice behind the numerologypodcast, bringing clarity and purpose
to how numbers will shape our future.
So please join us.
Novelli unveilswhat 2025 holds and discover
how you can harnessthe power of numerology
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to navigate the upcoming yearwith confidence and insight.
It's my pleasure to welcome NovaleeWilder to the Spiritual Quest podcast.
Hello.
Thank you so much.
Thank you Rebecca.
It's such a pleasure to be here.Always such a pleasure.
Oh, I'mso excited for this upcoming session
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because we're diving into the forecastfor 2025,
and you were the one who kind ofmade me fall in love with numerology.
So why don't we start there?
For those who might not know who you are,
a little bitabout short interview and numerology.
I know it's a huge thing, but let's yeah,
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keep it slowand then we'll move into 2025.
Sure. Sure.
So a little bit about me.
So originally I'm from Denmark.
I grew up in Denmark and in 2014I moved to New York to study acting.
And as I was in this acting school,we're like,
you know, I didn't know anyone.
The language was new.
I was living in a new place.
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The stuff in the supermarket was new.
Like everything was new.
I was really faced
or confronted with my old patterns.
I was like, wow, I'm in a totally newplace with people who don't know me.
I can be anyone, and I want to be like,which I really recommend
if you ever have to start over.
Take that as an opportunity to figure outwho do you want to be now?
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You don't have to repeat patterns,but I was repeating patterns and and I
was introduced to numerologyand the idea that our names
impact our life, not just,
like names that people call uswhere we're like, oh, I am this person,
I am the sound, I am this nameand everything that comes with it.
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But also there is an energetic patternto a name.
There's an energetic imprintor like a filter.
We know this in the age of Instagramthat like, things can be filtered
and that filter can actually truly changehow we view ourselves, review others.
So I went to this neurologist
who could look at names,
and they told me, you know,this is a very challenging name you have.
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And they told me everything about it.
And I was like, that's really horriblebecause everything you say is true.
Like, it's really. Oh,
I wish I could do some fronting by sayingeverything you're saying is not true.
And they were like, well,if you were interested,
you would probably have to changeyour entire name to, like, change things.
And I was like, you know what s it like?
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Let's just do it.
So I changed legally, changed my entire
name in 2015, and
I can't understate or overstate,I don't even know what word to use.
Like the impact was so profound.
And I think there's two things to this.
Something I'm writinga new book on numerology right now.
This is going to be a long answer
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is like I'm
really thinking about the impactof the identity we choose to have
and not just, again, like there is
energetic implicationsof changing your name
that are really powerfuland they're hard to convey.
But what's easy to conveyis that like shift in identity.
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Like choosing to be someone else
and not make it like,oh, I should be acting in a certain way.
But being like I am the kind of person
who shows up
for myself, or who eats healthy,or who faces her
romantic patterns head on or whateverit is.
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So like everything changedwith that numerology aspect, and suddenly
I had a passion that was not just actingand creativity, but
like it opened upthis whole spiritual thing for me.
I got introduced
to so many, like I started channelingand things that I didn't even realize
I was able to channel around,and so I had to study it, you know?
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And like, I found a numerology school,I found my first teacher,
I became accredited or whateveryou want to call it.
Like, I took courses.
I found some old witches
because I find often on a spiritual path.
Sometimes we find thethe pretty website first,
and then laterwe find that that person in the forest,
you know, who doesn't even have likea, like a web presence.
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So I've also gone down that pathwith numerology.
And so
the kind of numerologythat I use is called Chaldean numerology,
and it's mostly used in, in Denmarkand Norway.
And like Scandinavia, it'sdefinitely more known there.
When I moved to the US, I realized thatthe kind of numerology that people are
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mostly used to over hereis Pythagorean numerology.
And while the two systemshave a lot in common,
they also differin pretty significant ways.
So in Chaldean numerology,we look at people's birthdays and we look
at their names, and we look at the cyclesthey are born into.
And we kind of go, okay, what does this?
So that is of coursebigger than just the birthday.
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I'm bigger than the name.
What are they here to do?
We were talkingbefore we went live about patterns
and like,
you know, it's a new level sometimes,but it's the same level.
So like, what are the patternsand challenges a gift of this soul
has decided to
deal with in this life?
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And then with the name, what are the kindof filters they have around?
Like what are they idea and the identitythey have around
what those patterns look like?
So yeah, numerology is like a sacredspiritual science
about the like energy and vibrationsbehind numbers and names.
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And they could be any name.
They could also be the name of an entityor a book or a pet or house.
You know, anythingthat's named gains power,
from being named
and looking at those names,
like, we can see some of the patternsand we can replace those patterns.
Just as, like, people can change names,they can change patterns in that way.
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They can't change the pattern they decidedto deal with in this lifetime.
So like, we can't change birthdays, but,we can't change names.
There's a lotwe can change. Definitely with the names.
Yeah, I guess, but I just reflectedwhen you were sharing that because,
it I kind of saw when you talkedabout shifting your name
when you decided to do that,that you shift a timeline.
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And so the energetic decision
that you made was allowing a new timeline
to step forward and for you to embodythat you have a choice.
But that was thatenergetic choice was so profound,
based on shifting such a powerful thingas your name.
So you actually took the jump quantum leapinto that new timeline.
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And here you aresharing this with the whole world.
I think that's a perfect example of howwe can shift timelines just by doing
some really deep kind of worklike you are sharing with numerology.
So now you're showing us a little bitabout what
your kind of numerology,what you, how you use it.
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So let's wrap up 2024 before we go in
and look at 2025,because you said to me prior
to going live that this was the year
eight and I got no kidding,because that's my number.
I was like, yeah, I've been struggling.
I've been you were the highest high.
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Like now I'm like, at the end of this yearI'm like on the highest high.
My my soul gift is wrapped.
You know, it's really powerful.
But I've had to go all the way downand I mean all the way down
like I couldn't move.
I was actually stuckbecause of a neck prolapse.
Yeah.
Earlier this year, till being so welland so powerful and feeling so good.
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So let's dive into this year, 2024.
What has this taught us?
Yeah, let's wrap up the teachings.
Yeah.
You could almost do this forecastor like this inside
because as an eightyou would feel this year more.
And when I say eight in Chaldeannumerology we look at the birth date.
So like we're not going to look at
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the month or the year,we're just going to look at the day.
So like, I was born on the 28, twoplus eight is ten one plus zero is one.
So until the numerology I'm a one.
But base number one or just a one.
And you were born on the.
26th of October ninth, so.
26 two.
Yeah, two plus six is eight.
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So you're an eight in Child Urology two.
So people are like,wait, what? What do I am. Yeah.
Eight energy
is connected to Saturn and Saturn
is the ruler of time and lessons,and he is the teacher.
And you just can't outrunyour curriculum like you cannot outrun.
He will throw a book after you when he
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he will make you
come back to the to to the classroom.
When when he's like you,you need to learn this.
So eight energy is I love me some eights,
but it's a very wide energy.
It's a very, deep energy.
You guys are not herelike eight people in eight
years asks us to go deeper.
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It is not necessarily like
broad strokes.
And like, even though lots of eightshave, like, impacts on lots of people,
it's usually like the kind of like deeperconnection you guys are interested in.
Like, we're not scratching surface shit.
So 2024 is also not like
scratched the surface here.
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Some of the themes for the eights
is like balance, like
eight years are good at extremes.
And I could say thatlike on a global level, in the US, like
there's been some extremesthis year, there's been some extreme lies,
some extreme highs, a lot of hope,a lot of despair.
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Like we're recording this,you know, right after the election,
I was not surprised by the outcome,
but that didn't mean thatI hadn't hoped for something else.
So eight energy really makes us go deeper
and it questions likewhere is there an imbalance in your life.
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And we can if you look at eight energy,you look at these two circles
that are connectedwhich is what they're supposed to be.
But if we cut them in halfwe just make these two circles.
One is like your physical life,which might also have come up for people
in your physical body, your livelihood,
the home you live inlike your connection to earth,
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and also like not thinking beyond that,being like there is nothing else.
There's just what I can seeand touch and feel and taste like.
It's a very basic part of the eightthat they can never leave behind.
Because if we leave it behind
and we go to the second circleof the eight, that's everything.
You can't see
and touch
everything that is beyond likeyour spiritual self, your connecting
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to God, your higher self,
beyond this planet, beyond this,star system.
But you can't live only bothif you're an eight.
But also that's the lesson of 2024.
You can't livejust in one of those circles.
They're supposed to connectand they're supposed to be balanced.
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We are not just our physical body,but we're definitely
not just our spiritual body either.
And if you kind of only
if you only support one of them,
the other circleis going to make a lot of noise.
So if we are imbalanced,2024 would have made
noise, would have made a lot of noise.
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I. Had to find a new balancebecause it's all always an expansion.
The new energies and how
you're you're growing, you're expandingas you're doing this kind of work.
I've been doing this nowfor 16 years, and channeling,
for 12 of those 16 years.
And it's been a roller coasterthis last year
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just because of the physical aspect of,
like you said, finding the structureor looking at the livelihood,
looking at different partsof the physical reality
and acknowledging that I'm not happy
and having to see go deepto figure out what patterns
that I have that do not serve,which is stuck in the 3D matrix,
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in order to shift that and transform that,
to create a new, more sustainable
and more powerful structure for
a higher matrix.
So it's been looking at allpatterns, belief system and starting
new or allowing I would more say that
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this year has been allowing myself
giving myself some grace.
And I hope a lot of people
have been doing that because it's beena turbulent year, like you said.
So allowing ourselvessome grace and feeling
now that we have moved beyond
the chaos,now we can start building a new structure
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and then looking at ourselvesin the balance of the eight and saying,
okay, now in this balance,I feel more powerful.
I can stand solidly within who I am.
I feel I have the clarity of whereI'm going,
and now I'mready to take it to the next level.
At least that's how I feel it.
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So let's move into the forecast of 2025.
What can we expect?
So first of all, thereis this like overlap of the years.
It's not like they shift immediatelyon New Year's Eve at midnight.
They do stretch into, you know, like
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the astrologically likethe New Year's is around.
When we go into Aries.
So that would be April
and of March, April.
So there's like an overlap of the energiesand that can sometimes feel depending
on what, based on where we havewhen we were born, like kind of intense
when an eight year meets, a nine year,and 2024 is an eight year because two
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plus zero plus two plus four is eight,and 2025 is a nine year plus.
Because two plus zeroplus two plus five, right? Yes.
Yes is not.
I'm getting lost on the math here too.
So when these two years meet they create
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17 eight when nine
energy meets anythingit amplifies it and recreate it.
If you add nine to any number,you will recreate that number.
So we're getting an extra dose of this
seven or the 17 eight energy right now
like November, DecemberI would say all the way into April
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and 17 eightis kind of like a spotlight energy,
a one that says, like on a global level,it says you need to pay attention
because what's happening right nowis like once
in a generationor once in a lifetime energy.
So on a global level, we are seeing thingswe have never seen before.
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I feel like that in the US with certainthings we're seeing, things
we've never seen before,and we have to kind of go, I can't
when people are like, I can't believe withthe election what happened.
I both want to say you
haven't seen anything yet, but also like,where have you been?
Like, let's be honest.
Yes, let's be really honest.
(18:09):
Eight energy says,why are you pretending to be blind?
Saturn says this lesson is not going away.
Like why would it be going away.
Like this is the next page in your bookand you can get to the next chapter
unless you like, read this or fulfill this
or like show up for this. So.
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For eightspecifically I would think you would
there'd be some intensity.
But around the end of the yearand the beginning of the next year,
because eight and nine energies
that kind of like each other,nine is ruled by Mars.
So we got anger, aggression, boundary
leadership, leadership in all its forms.
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And if you need to translate itto something more feminine,
because sometimeswhen people hear leadership,
they immediatelysee something very masculine or very,
single minded, or they
see like a one person ruler,
which is not how leadership really is.
We're all leaders.
We all show up for ourselvesand other people.
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And there are people looking at you rightnow, both you, me and everyone listening.
And they look to you for like,how do you show up?
Like there's some personal leadershipenergy nine is all about leadership,
but it's very like rooted in ethics,
integrity and the bigger vision. So.
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A question I would ask
people is like,who are you giving your power away to?
Good question.
Yeah. Like what are youwhat are you saying?
Like and and it could be bothyou give the power away to
this would be a nine year question.
It could be people,but it could also be like future you like,
I will do the thing when I'm skinnier,
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or I'll do the thing when I have a betterwardrobe, or I'll do it in the summer
where I have a little bit of a tan,or I'll do it when I get it.
I'm sayingall of these like physical things,
but that's just because I really seepeople get hung up in the physical of like
when I feel like I look
better in whatever way, shape or form
or like I have that I have an accent.
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Sometimes when I talk to Americans,I can hear my own accent and I go, oh,
I'll get a little bit bigger.
I get a little more impactwhen I work on my accent.
Yeah,
or I'll get my teeth fixed.
Or like, there's just a lot of like, it's
we get hung up in these, like, surfacelevel things and we say,
I'll do the big thing onceI fix this physical thing about myself.
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And it's just bullshit.
You can be called it now.
Yeah, you can be a leader now.
I follow this wonderful,
money mindset mentor,
Denise Duffel Thomas, who gives peoplethe job to look in a mirror
or take a picture of themselves and say,this is what a wealthy woman looks like.
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True.
And whether you were a woman or a man orhowever you identify that thing of like,
I am the person I need to be for the job
I have right now,
like I am the leader.
And I'm not waiting for someone elseto save me
or I'm not waiting for my physical realityto be better.
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I am taking care of the shit now,
and I'm also taking care of myself.
Like nineenergy is a very, very physical energy.
So a very practical thing.
I would really recommend everyonenow before the
before your inbox gets filledwith like get skinny in January
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or sign up for the gym in January or lose,you know, blah blah blah.
I would say like investin your physical reality right now.
Like if it is because you need a coach,because you want to lose weight,
or if you are getting olderand you really should be strength training
to like retain musclemass and feel powerful in,
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your wisdom years.
Like now is the time to do itlike it's November 7th.
Like just sign up for the thing now.
Like invest in your physical realityright now.
Because.
To create that thing,
like to create that identity,you need to take action.
So that's what we're saying.
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It's also the year of action.
Yeah.
I just want to mention somethingbecause it's so fascinating
because like I said, I do channeling.
So I allow the guidance and the spirit.
You see this from spiritQuest always guided by spirit.
I have my team's recent order of sevenand this.
It's not been that long.
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I think it was in the beginningof October.
This said, or in one of my channelswith them, they said
that I needed to open up for mentorship.
Never done that to guide people one onone through mentorship, three spots.
And I
okay, I'll I'll do
it because I know this yearI have to lead now they I know
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it's the time, reading energyand working with high frequency energy.
So you can see what the shift I seevibrations.
So when I'm in the tranceI can see how the energy is moving,
how the grids and how the matrixand how it all plays in together.
So it's it's a visual expressionthat is unfolding within me.
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And so I could see the necessityof what they were saying, and,
but I had to go through what I wentthrough to be able to come to that place.
And that realization where I was ableto let go of the 3D matrix
that was still left,that kept me in that old belief system,
keeping me
small in certain aspects of the workI was doing.
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Also, the fear of being rejectedbecause I've been rejected by family
and friends prior,you know, for coming out
and being a channel and going all inbecause I quit my job and I started it.
I just listened to the guidance,the spirit.
And I don't recommend people do thatbecause that had to be my job.
Like I said, I'man eight. It's a. Very eight energy.
Like it is.
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So don't you.
Know any of the circles you're like,there is for at least for a while.
There's only this circle.
And then at some pointyou go, you know what?
What's in my fridge?
Like how how amI in the physical world? But,
you know, I support it.
Yeah.
And I can see that
people who's been on this path for a whileis already catching up on this energy.
So just what you said, nowthat, you know, invest in yourself.
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As soon as I sent out one email,it was just one little line
at the end of the email to my email listand somebody jumped on
and the next time I went out,somebody jumped on.
And it's justthe way the energy is working now.
I think we're all feeling it,feeling our souls calling on us
because the order saysthat the veil is so much thinner
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going into this energyand the nine energy.
So it kind of feels likeI would just want to pull the sand
like it's all the same thing,but you're using the numbers, and I'm
just sensing and getting the informationof how to navigate the energies.
Well, you can actually say, okay, this isthe energies that are playing out now.
How do we navigate it?
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so let's seenow let's look at the professional life.
We did a little bit.You said the leadership part.
So say that somebody now is in the energyworked a lightworker
a visionary whatever we want to be hereand create something
more powerful, a new Earththrough that vibration of consciousness.
So how do we how do we navigate.
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So I mean, nine
energy is like looking at thingsfrom on high.
So we're assuming out like nine energyoften
zooms out and there's like
I use this image
and I think some people get confrontedby it, especially in the spiritual world.
But it's just a very realI use the image of war
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and we have three numbers
that are connected,to specific leadership.
It's one three and nine.
So it's the beginning,
with the one like the one is the general
in front of the army going like,this is, this is where we're going.
And I don't even care if you're following,but this is where we're going.
Like one often says,like there's like some trailblazer
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or like some,some first seeds energy in the one,
then the three energy isthe whole damn army, because those people,
they show up early and they go home lateand they get the job done. And
they are
ambitious and they are hard workingand they are willing to sacrifice.
And then we have the nine energy, which iswhere we are at the end of the line.
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It's also ending.
So it's the thing that says, I'mwilling to die for this,
which is also why I use that in the war.
Like there's certain things that wewe should be willing to sacrifice for.
And if it's not a physical death,it might be identity death, you know, like
it might be something that a part of youthat you've been carrying
that has been small,
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and we might have to kill it, oryou might be willing to die a little bit
to to let it go, to be like I am willing
to give up this belief system.
I'm willing to give up.
I'm gonna use that in that, patternwith the accent again.
Like, I see that with some peoplewhere they're like, I want everything.
But I have this one thing.
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For example, my accent.
And I still feel so connected to it,like I need to sound like I'm
from a specific place. I don't want to be
a new thing yet.
I feel connected to this thing.
Yeah, there can be all this things,but if you're not willing to die,
if you're not willing to give up somethingthat might tether you to a country
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or an identity or a family,then you can't become that new thing
like the Phoenix cannot riseif it has not been burned.
Like you cannot shy away from that fire.
And so the nine energy is that thing like,this is why we fight.
So the question is like,what are you fighting for?
What are you building?What is the world you're building?
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And are you crying about
the worldthat other people have built for you?
Are you deciding to create your own?
Because that's the only waythat worlds get built,
and only way that wars get foughtand won is if someone says, I'm
fighting for something bigger than myselfand I'm building something
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bigger than myself, and even if it doesn'tget done in my lifetime,
or even if I don't get to see this thingfulfilled, I will like,
put bricks in this house,like in this wall.
Like I will build this thing.
I will be someone, and I will believe
that other people will be looking at mewhile I'm building my thing.
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And they will go, oh, that's coolthat she's building that.
Oh, that's coolthat he believes that. Yeah.
And they will go in on that vision
and they will be like,
you know, likethey will commit to that cause.
And nine energy also really, you know,we have to look at anger
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because, anger is that thing that pointsthat says, hey, you right there.
That thing. No no no no, don't do that.
Don't, don't, don't do that to meor don't do that to other people.
Like anger is the thing that, like, drawsa line in the sand, and it activates us.
It activates our nervous system,it activates our life, spiritual defenses.
Something in us go like,
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no, like I will I will rise up to this.
I will not hide.
I will not freeze or will not run,
I will fight.
So, like, yeah, I,
I'm really excited, actually,to see what this
period of, like,some people call it uncertainty,
but I call it like, you know, the worldmoves globally through these nine years,
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these nine stages, and it comes to the endand it has to wrap up shit.
And it's like, we're done with this level.
We're done with this class.
You're moving up. We're moving on.
So like, let go, cut the cords.
You know, finishthat friendship, declutter that closet.
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Like, what is not moving on with youinto this next version.
Or if it's movingon, you might need to detach.
This could also be likeyou asked about professionally.
I'm like,
maybe you can stay if you're ina corporate or more like conventional
field.
Like maybe you can stay where you are, but
maybe you do need to negotiate salaryand responsibilities.
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A sub energy in 2025
because of the 2525has to do with responsibility,
and it's just as much what we areresponsible for as what we're not.
We're not like, if you were a secretary,
that would probably bea personal assistant in this day and age.
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If someone who was not your boss came
and put a bunch of stuff on your deskand were like, can you do this?
You would be like, I don't work for you.
I work for this other guyor this other girl.
I'm going to do their job, their stuff.
And maybe in your life right nowand maybe in your professional lives,
a lot of people have puta lot of stuff on your desk
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that is
not your job or not what you get paid for.
Or maybe you need more compensation and
and you need to figure out a way to say
that is not my job to these people
and get that shit off your desk.
Because also, with all this leadershipstuff, like,
what would it look likeif you went all in?
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You know, what would it look like?
And what are you scared of?
Would it also be mine is also being,
there's some perfectionism,
in benign.
So like sometimes it's that thing of like,is your perfectionism holding you back
from getting really good thingsor afraid of failing?
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Do you think that this version of youthat's bigger, better and better paid,
has to be like,I know, contorted into something weird?
Do they have to be
more perfect in some way?
I would say no, you don't have to bemore perfect in any way.
You can do the thing as you are right now.
(32:45):
But there are about that question like,what are.
Yeah. Leaning back to like,what's holding you back?
Identify it. Let it go. Cut it down.
Drop it in to little pieces and burn it.
Yes, 2025 would also be a year to burn.
Shit. Yeah. And energetically,
it's a fire year.
So, like, I actually don't know what it isin Chinese,
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astrology.
But to me, as I look at it, I'm like,there's some things that we could burn.
Yeah.
And you might already knowwhat you need to burn.
As you'relistening to this, you would go, like
it is something you need to burn.
Yeah.
It's actually activating the firewithin the element of fire, which again,
is the power, right?
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The rising of the soul.
The soul's calling.
Like I said, if the veil is thinning,meaning that you're you're tuning
more into your authentic self,this is this year has been a big being,
your authentic self coming out, expressingwho you truly are, finding that path.
And now we're have the opportunityto light that fire.
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It's being lit for us.
So if we're tuning in to that,
we will allow the guidance of our soul,which it's easier for us.
I, I feel in this number,I know it can seem difficult
if you're in the lower vibrationsof uncertainty, fear and all that,
but if you're constantly working,doing energy work, you're willing
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to look at what you're doingfrom also a soul perspective
if you're tuning into, okay,so how can, like you said,
what that version of me,what does that look like?
And then tuning into that energeticallyso that you can get the response
from your soul, which will activate spiritthrough that fire.
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So you can actually use the fireas a symbol, as you're
allowing yourselfto step into that power of number nine.
And for that, that can really expandto something truly beautiful.
That's how I feel.
It is for meat this moment, as I've kind of already
been in
the well, I think I've embodied or I'm
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in that flow of the nine energybecause I can feel its senses.
I'm tuning into the vibrations because ofthe channeling, and I know what's coming.
I see the winds of change and how tonavigate it for my own personal benefit.
And so being a channel, it's easierfor me to express
that energy in my work,being call it an example
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or mentoring other othersin order to finally step
into their empowermentto be that empowering person,
that leader in their own life,to cut out those lower vibration
energy cords bonds to anybodywho does not serve your life.
That is not for your highest good.
This is the year that you decidewhat's for your highest good.
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By allowing spirit to step fully inand to embody it in a more profound way,
I think that's going to really shiftthe vibration of what's
going on in the collective.
The more lightworkers, visionaries.
That's whyI'm very tuning into those people today.
And I want to say,if you're a lightworker, define yourself.
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It's just a label, but you're working forthe greater good of the whole
then the nine year we need you.
We need you to step into your power.
We need you. We need your power.
We need to stay in unity and startco-creating
a new structurefor the new Earth vibration.
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I'm just calling a new Earth vibration.
I know it's a consciousness,but let's work on that together this year.
I think that's going to be really powerfuland not let us be distracted
by the external forcesor what's going on in the world.
We know. We know that the answer lies
within the powerwe can solidly stand in our power.
And as you do that,the most powerful thing that I felt
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in that shiftas I reawakened to my power again,
it was the fire and me
being able to just be groundedand having a perspective
without the acknowledgment or fear
or feeling unsecure or unsafe
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in any part of my life anymore.
Because as long as I embodythat vibration, it doesn't exist.
If I lose it, it's back.
But if I can keep the keep it upand then create
that structure that I'm workingon, the what I call the five D
matrix structure, because it startswith us to have that shift in paradigm.
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And so it is it's a powerful can you see.
So it's my energyI'm so excited for next year I truly am.
I think it's going to be amazing.
If lightworkers really understandthe power they
embody and start using thatand not play small.
As you said, it's time.
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It's time. Yeah, well, it's also,
It's that thing of like
without getting tested,we don't know what we can do.
And so I don't I don't see
the world always as, like,this big test, like it would be.
Not everything is Saturnruled in that way.
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But I do think that there's somethingabout like.
Dealing with uncertainty
in a self empowered way.
Because just as we could all get hit
by a bus tomorrow,
like I'm tying this to the election,but it's other things like big, big, scary
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things can happen in the world and you'restill just responsible for yourself.
And sometimes it can be helpfulto go back. And,
one of the tools I use
for people is that I go like,well, let's look at another personal
nine year or like,you know, a year, a global nine year,
(38:44):
and see if you had any tipsor tricks for your future self,
which is your current selflike so, or 2025.
You could go back to 2016,
which was
also an intense year,and you could go, what, what
what, what happened in 2016if there's anything I could tell myself
right after,like pretend like it's the end of 2016
(39:06):
and you had like a little post-it noteor maybe just one page in your journal
or on your noteapp on your phone and go like, hey,
these are the three things I wishsomeone had told me at the beginning
of the year.
And just like,
write like go back to 2016,write that little thing for yourself.
You could also go all the way backto, 2007.
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And because there will be overlap,
there's always somethingreally interesting when we change,
the thousands and
we see like the first timewe hit a nine year,
which was in 2007 and then 2016
and then 2025 is the third time.
And there is something aboutthe third time where, like there is like
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like a resonance in the
energy, like it anchors deeper.
Yeah.
Like the first time you hear something,the second time you hear something
and then the third timewhere you can kind of sing the song.
So like you heard some of the song in 2007and it was very foreign.
And then you heard it waystronger in 2016.
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And maybe it was a little scarybecause you were like, oh, that's,
that's a big song.
And then 2025, the song comes backand you're like, okay,
let me sing it like I know the chorus now,
or I know some of these vibrationsand colors and energies,
and I can tell myself how to, like,stay on pitch,
like I can,like I have some tips and tricks here
(40:39):
and then apply them,because we have such a tendency to be
like, oh, I don't know about the future.
And I'm like,
but you do know about the future,because while I also tell
my clients is the exact same thingis probably not going to happen.
So like, say
weird image,you got a horse or a pet or something.
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In 2016.
Even if you get a new petof the exact same, or a new horse,
or like a new thing in your life,that's like an unpredictable lives
and or like something gets introducedand you're like,
I need to get to know this thing,this pet, this new energy animal.
I might need to get to know it.
(41:23):
It's never going to bethe exact same animal,
but it's still going to be okay.
This is such a weird time,but it's still going to be that pet.
Like, if it's a horse,you will know about horses.
If it's dogs, you will know about dogs.
If it's a job that like got introduced,
then you know about this job now.
So in some ways2025 is not going to be new to us.
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There'sgoing to be a lot of repetition of things.
You probably like lessonsyou've already known, anger issues,
boundaries, building blocks,finishing things.
People to say goodbye to.
You know,2025 is also like an ending year.
It's an end of one cycle.
Nine years are always like,what are we closing?
What are we killing? What are we?
(42:06):
Can I love it?
Yeah.
Like I mean, in that way,it's always epic.
you just reminded me of,I think that tip that you gave go back
and look at the last nine yearthat I think that was a wonderful tip,
because I just recognized that in 2016,
that was the first timeI brought a group to Sedona.
I was called by spirit to do a spirit walkthere, and I channel chief.
(42:29):
Oh, you're doing it again?
Yes. Right. 2019 in March.
Yeah, we're 2025.
I'm doing it again.
Yes. So it's like, yeah.
Just yeah.
Very like, oh it's perfect. Wow.
I would say
that if you are
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scared of power,
then people will have more power over you.
And if you're scared of your inner leader,
then other peopleare going to take charge.
And if you're afraid to be angry,
then you will have to run or put up with
other people's,
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Influence.
And so.
You cannot.
I mean, of course you can run from it.
We can always run
like there's always that opportunityto not engage with a challenge.
You can always postpone the lesson.
You can always say,this is not my dark night of the soul.
Or like, this is not it.
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I'm not far enoughdown the ladder like I'm.
I'm not challenged enough.
I'll just tread water.
And I would just say that, like,
sometimes the things we are afraid of
are just so colored by our fear
that they become very, very big.
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And kind of like in a horror movie
when you don't see the scary thing,it grows and grows and grows.
And sometimes when it steps into the lightyou're like, this is a monster.
Suddenly not so scary anymore.
Or like just a dude with a maskon, like it doesn't even look that tall.
Like I think I can take.
So I would say,
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whatever you're scared of.
Maybe you don't even have to fight it.
Maybe you just have to face it.
I know I talked about dying.
Maybe you don't have to die.Maybe you just have to sit with it.
You know, sometimesthe the big scary thing is sometimes
people come to me and, for example,with, like, anger, they were like,
(44:42):
my anger is too big.
I'm too afraid if I really felt itor allowed it, what I would do.
And I'm like,
as someone who spent a lot of yearsbeing angry
and as an actor, also being very angry,wonderfully angry on stage,
which can be like catharticfor other people to see.
Like sometimes we're like,I can't allow this thing, but I'll go
(45:05):
watch some art that has the energythat I'm not allowing myself,
and I will, like, live through that,you know,
I would just say you can survive
anything that will come up,and it's probably
not as scary as you thinkit is, or it will also feel good,
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like we're afraid of feeling bad.
But sometimes just feelingit is a lot better
than staying numbor staying back or holding back.
It's like it's painful to play small.
It's also painful not to be loved
because we're not being authentic.
I guess there's just so much good stuff
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on the other side of, like, facing it.
So I would just say with a lot of love,say like, face it,
show up for it, take action.
And if you feel very
challenged by these things,like sometimes it really helps to go back.
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You could get a numerology reading,right here.
You could get a reading with Rebecca.
You could get a reading
with anyone you're attracted to,like someone who has like an energy.
Because it's not just what we tell people,it's who the channel is.
So, like,find someone you want to listen to.
Like, find someone you feel safe with,someone you're like, I want to.
I my nervous system,feel safe with this person.
(46:33):
Like I can breathe deeply.
I can
see their face like I can, I can engage,I feel like
I feel like I can be presentwith this person and maybe get like a
reading of, like, your birth chartor like your, your origin.
Because also like at the end of the line,sometimes
we need to be remindedabout where we started.
(46:55):
And I mean, I feel like that's my work isoften like reminding people who they are.
And it's not
to me, it's very, very simple
and very,very beautiful to share those things
and be like, look how simple and beautifulyou are in some way.
Like this.
This is so pretty.
Like, look at it like, oh, there you are.
(47:16):
And just like thatreminder makes us feel stronger
because we can also pretend a lot,but we're something else.
We can play a lot of parts,
something we might not felt in 2024said, oh, I play all these parts.
I'm all these different people.
I can't consolidate them.
I don't know who I am.
I'm this personwith my friends, with my family,
(47:38):
my coworkers.
Who am I really?
And you are all those people,but you're also something bigger.
So like just also a reminderthat like there is help and support
and sometimesjust the reminder of who we are
can help us like
become and again.
Reclaim our power.
Yeah.
Start shifting from the external world
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to the internal worldwhere everything is created.
Yes, yes yes.
Yeah. It's up to us to express it.
So it's beautiful.
Thank you so much, Novalee.
It's beautiful to have you here.
I love your energy. Azure.
next year.
I'm sure there's going to be some monthsthat's going to be exciting to dive into.
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Yes. Now we just had a broadlook at the number nine
and how that can help us.
And it,it enlightens me because it's like, yes,
we can see the synchronicitiesin everything
and all the spiritual aspectsand all the fragmented parts that
are being called into play
in the numbernine that needs to be expressed.
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And so I think it'sa beautiful, beautiful time.
And I just want to lift itbecause yes, we can see the doom
if we're focused in the external world.
But look at us, look at you normally.
Look at us coming together,people watching where we're here
with an open heart.
We're herebecause we believe in something greater.
We herebecause we want to express, to support,
(49:07):
to be of servicesomehow and just to live in unity.
And I think that's beautiful.
There's so much hope inwhatever is going on.
Let's focus our attention,our energy towards
what brings hope,what brings peace, what brings love.
And, yeah,let's hold space for each other.
We can hold space for thosewho are struggling.
(49:28):
We're here holding space.That's what we do.
That's how we show up for each other.
So with that,I want to thank you again, Novalee.
And, for everyone who's been watching ustoday, thank you so much for joining us,
and I hope to see you back next time.
Any final words I leave you,I will give you the final words.
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Well, if numerology sounds interesting,
go check out my website at NovaleeWilder A.com.
I also have books,a little bit of numerology,
and a little bit of angel numbersif you want to dive into that.
And then I just don't lose hope.
I love that, I love that.
Handle the word like, don't lose hope.
thank you very much
(50:12):
and have a wonderful day, everyone,wherever you are in this beautiful world.
Bye now. Bye.
(50:48):
Eight.
So on a global level, we are seeing thingswe have never seen before.
(00:04):
I feel like that in the US with certainthings we're seeing, things
we've never seen before,and we have to kind of go, I can't
when people are like, I can't believewith the election what happened.
I both want to sayyou haven't seen anything yet,
but also like, where have you been?
Like, let's be honest.
Yes, let's be really honest.
(00:25):
Eight energy says,why are you pretending to be blind?
Saturn says this lesson is not going away.
Welcome to the Spiritual Quest podcast,
a transformative journeywhere we step into a world of wonder
and exploration,seeking answers to profound questions.
(00:45):
Why am I here?
What is my mission in life and how can Imake a positive impact in this world?
Join me and my inspiring gueston a spiritual quest to fully embrace
your uniqueness and speak your truthwith grace and gratitude.
I am your host,Rebecca Garner, always guided by spirit.
(01:11):
Hello.
Hello beautiful people.
Welcome to another exciting episodeof the Spiritual Quest podcast.
Today we'll be looking intothe hidden messages of 2025
through the power of numerology,
and I'm thrilled to have Novalee Wilderback on the show with us.
(01:31):
She's a visionary professional neurologistrenowned for her transformative guidance
in both personal and business realms,
and as the authorof A Little Bit of Numerology
and a Little Bit of Angel numbers novel,Lee channels her profound
understanding of numbersinto empowering insights.
(01:52):
She's also the founderof the Numerology school
and the voice behind the numerologypodcast, bringing clarity and purpose
to how numbers will shape our future.
So please join us.
Novelli unveilswhat 2025 holds and discover
how you can harnessthe power of numerology
(02:13):
to navigate the upcoming yearwith confidence and insight.
It's my pleasure to welcome NovaleeWilder to the Spiritual Quest podcast.
Hello.
Thank you so much.
Thank you Rebecca.
It's such a pleasure to be here.Always such a pleasure.
Oh, I'mso excited for this upcoming session
(02:34):
because we're diving into the forecastfor 2025,
and you were the one who kind ofmade me fall in love with numerology.
So why don't we start there?
For those who might not know who you are,
a little bitabout short interview and numerology.
I know it's a huge thing, but let's yeah,
(02:56):
keep it slowand then we'll move into 2025.
Sure. Sure.
So a little bit about me.
So originally I'm from Denmark.
I grew up in Denmark and in 2014I moved to New York to study acting.
And as I was in this acting school,we're like,
you know, I didn't know anyone.
The language was new.
I was living in a new place.
(03:17):
The stuff in the supermarket was new.
Like everything was new.
I was really faced
or confronted with my old patterns.
I was like, wow, I'm in a totally newplace with people who don't know me.
I can be anyone, and I want to be like,which I really recommend
if you ever have to start over.
Take that as an opportunity to figure outwho do you want to be now?
(03:40):
You don't have to repeat patterns,but I was repeating patterns and and I
was introduced to numerologyand the idea that our names
impact our life, not just,
like names that people call uswhere we're like, oh, I am this person,
I am the sound, I am this nameand everything that comes with it.
(04:01):
But also there is an energetic patternto a name.
There's an energetic imprintor like a filter.
We know this in the age of Instagramthat like, things can be filtered
and that filter can actually truly changehow we view ourselves, review others.
So I went to this neurologist
who could look at names,
and they told me, you know,this is a very challenging name you have.
(04:25):
And they told me everything about it.
And I was like, that's really horriblebecause everything you say is true.
Like, it's really. Oh,
I wish I could do some fronting by sayingeverything you're saying is not true.
And they were like, well,if you were interested,
you would probably have to changeyour entire name to, like, change things.
And I was like, you know what s it like?
(04:49):
Let's just do it.
So I changed legally, changed my entire
name in 2015, and
I can't understate or overstate,I don't even know what word to use.
Like the impact was so profound.
And I think there's two things to this.
Something I'm writinga new book on numerology right now.
This is going to be a long answer
(05:10):
is like I'm
really thinking about the impactof the identity we choose to have
and not just, again, like there is
energetic implicationsof changing your name
that are really powerfuland they're hard to convey.
But what's easy to conveyis that like shift in identity.
(05:31):
Like choosing to be someone else
and not make it like,oh, I should be acting in a certain way.
But being like I am the kind of person
who shows up
for myself, or who eats healthy,or who faces her
romantic patterns head on or whateverit is.
(05:53):
So like everything changedwith that numerology aspect, and suddenly
I had a passion that was not just actingand creativity, but
like it opened upthis whole spiritual thing for me.
I got introduced
to so many, like I started channelingand things that I didn't even realize
I was able to channel around,and so I had to study it, you know?
(06:14):
And like, I found a numerology school,I found my first teacher,
I became accredited or whateveryou want to call it.
Like, I took courses.
I found some old witches
because I find often on a spiritual path.
Sometimes we find thethe pretty website first,
and then laterwe find that that person in the forest,
you know, who doesn't even have likea, like a web presence.
(06:38):
So I've also gone down that pathwith numerology.
And so
the kind of numerologythat I use is called Chaldean numerology,
and it's mostly used in, in Denmarkand Norway.
And like Scandinavia, it'sdefinitely more known there.
When I moved to the US, I realized thatthe kind of numerology that people are
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mostly used to over hereis Pythagorean numerology.
And while the two systemshave a lot in common,
they also differin pretty significant ways.
So in Chaldean numerology,we look at people's birthdays and we look
at their names, and we look at the cyclesthey are born into.
And we kind of go, okay, what does this?
So that is of coursebigger than just the birthday.
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I'm bigger than the name.
What are they here to do?
We were talkingbefore we went live about patterns
and like,
you know, it's a new level sometimes,but it's the same level.
So like, what are the patternsand challenges a gift of this soul
has decided to
deal with in this life?
(07:41):
And then with the name, what are the kindof filters they have around?
Like what are they idea and the identitythey have around
what those patterns look like?
So yeah, numerology is like a sacredspiritual science
about the like energy and vibrationsbehind numbers and names.
(08:03):
And they could be any name.
They could also be the name of an entityor a book or a pet or house.
You know, anythingthat's named gains power,
from being named
and looking at those names,
like, we can see some of the patternsand we can replace those patterns.
Just as, like, people can change names,they can change patterns in that way.
(08:27):
They can't change the pattern they decidedto deal with in this lifetime.
So like, we can't change birthdays, but,we can't change names.
There's a lotwe can change. Definitely with the names.
Yeah, I guess, but I just reflectedwhen you were sharing that because,
it I kind of saw when you talkedabout shifting your name
when you decided to do that,that you shift a timeline.
(08:50):
And so the energetic decision
that you made was allowing a new timeline
to step forward and for you to embodythat you have a choice.
But that was thatenergetic choice was so profound,
based on shifting such a powerful thingas your name.
So you actually took the jump quantum leapinto that new timeline.
(09:15):
And here you aresharing this with the whole world.
I think that's a perfect example of howwe can shift timelines just by doing
some really deep kind of worklike you are sharing with numerology.
So now you're showing us a little bitabout what
your kind of numerology,what you, how you use it.
(09:35):
So let's wrap up 2024 before we go in
and look at 2025,because you said to me prior
to going live that this was the year
eight and I got no kidding,because that's my number.
I was like, yeah, I've been struggling.
I've been you were the highest high.
(09:55):
Like now I'm like, at the end of this yearI'm like on the highest high.
My my soul gift is wrapped.
You know, it's really powerful.
But I've had to go all the way downand I mean all the way down
like I couldn't move.
I was actually stuckbecause of a neck prolapse.
Yeah.
Earlier this year, till being so welland so powerful and feeling so good.
(10:17):
So let's dive into this year, 2024.
What has this taught us?
Yeah, let's wrap up the teachings.
Yeah.
You could almost do this forecastor like this inside
because as an eightyou would feel this year more.
And when I say eight in Chaldeannumerology we look at the birth date.
So like we're not going to look at
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the month or the year,we're just going to look at the day.
So like, I was born on the 28, twoplus eight is ten one plus zero is one.
So until the numerology I'm a one.
But base number one or just a one.
And you were born on the.
26th of October ninth, so.
26 two.
Yeah, two plus six is eight.
(10:58):
So you're an eight in Child Urology two.
So people are like,wait, what? What do I am. Yeah.
Eight energy
is connected to Saturn and Saturn
is the ruler of time and lessons,and he is the teacher.
And you just can't outrunyour curriculum like you cannot outrun.
He will throw a book after you when he
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he will make you
come back to the to to the classroom.
When when he's like you,you need to learn this.
So eight energy is I love me some eights,
but it's a very wide energy.
It's a very, deep energy.
You guys are not herelike eight people in eight
years asks us to go deeper.
(11:44):
It is not necessarily like
broad strokes.
And like, even though lots of eightshave, like, impacts on lots of people,
it's usually like the kind of like deeperconnection you guys are interested in.
Like, we're not scratching surface shit.
So 2024 is also not like
scratched the surface here.
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Some of the themes for the eights
is like balance, like
eight years are good at extremes.
And I could say thatlike on a global level, in the US, like
there's been some extremesthis year, there's been some extreme lies,
some extreme highs, a lot of hope,a lot of despair.
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Like we're recording this,you know, right after the election,
I was not surprised by the outcome,
but that didn't mean thatI hadn't hoped for something else.
So eight energy really makes us go deeper
and it questions likewhere is there an imbalance in your life.
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And we can if you look at eight energy,you look at these two circles
that are connectedwhich is what they're supposed to be.
But if we cut them in halfwe just make these two circles.
One is like your physical life,which might also have come up for people
in your physical body, your livelihood,
the home you live inlike your connection to earth,
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and also like not thinking beyond that,being like there is nothing else.
There's just what I can seeand touch and feel and taste like.
It's a very basic part of the eightthat they can never leave behind.
Because if we leave it behind
and we go to the second circleof the eight, that's everything.
You can't see
and touch
everything that is beyond likeyour spiritual self, your connecting
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to God, your higher self,
beyond this planet, beyond this,star system.
But you can't live only bothif you're an eight.
But also that's the lesson of 2024.
You can't livejust in one of those circles.
They're supposed to connectand they're supposed to be balanced.
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We are not just our physical body,but we're definitely
not just our spiritual body either.
And if you kind of only
if you only support one of them,
the other circleis going to make a lot of noise.
So if we are imbalanced,2024 would have made
noise, would have made a lot of noise.
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I. Had to find a new balancebecause it's all always an expansion.
The new energies and how
you're you're growing, you're expandingas you're doing this kind of work.
I've been doing this nowfor 16 years, and channeling,
for 12 of those 16 years.
And it's been a roller coasterthis last year
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just because of the physical aspect of,
like you said, finding the structureor looking at the livelihood,
looking at different partsof the physical reality
and acknowledging that I'm not happy
and having to see go deepto figure out what patterns
that I have that do not serve,which is stuck in the 3D matrix,
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in order to shift that and transform that,
to create a new, more sustainable
and more powerful structure for
a higher matrix.
So it's been looking at allpatterns, belief system and starting
new or allowing I would more say that
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this year has been allowing myself
giving myself some grace.
And I hope a lot of people
have been doing that because it's beena turbulent year, like you said.
So allowing ourselvessome grace and feeling
now that we have moved beyond
the chaos,now we can start building a new structure
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and then looking at ourselvesin the balance of the eight and saying,
okay, now in this balance,I feel more powerful.
I can stand solidly within who I am.
I feel I have the clarity of whereI'm going,
and now I'mready to take it to the next level.
At least that's how I feel it.
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So let's move into the forecast of 2025.
What can we expect?
So first of all, thereis this like overlap of the years.
It's not like they shift immediatelyon New Year's Eve at midnight.
They do stretch into, you know, like
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the astrologically likethe New Year's is around.
When we go into Aries.
So that would be April
and of March, April.
So there's like an overlap of the energiesand that can sometimes feel depending
on what, based on where we havewhen we were born, like kind of intense
when an eight year meets, a nine year,and 2024 is an eight year because two
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plus zero plus two plus four is eight,and 2025 is a nine year plus.
Because two plus zeroplus two plus five, right? Yes.
Yes is not.
I'm getting lost on the math here too.
So when these two years meet they create
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17 eight when nine
energy meets anythingit amplifies it and recreate it.
If you add nine to any number,you will recreate that number.
So we're getting an extra dose of this
seven or the 17 eight energy right now
like November, DecemberI would say all the way into April
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and 17 eightis kind of like a spotlight energy,
a one that says, like on a global level,it says you need to pay attention
because what's happening right nowis like once
in a generationor once in a lifetime energy.
So on a global level, we are seeing thingswe have never seen before.
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I feel like that in the US with certainthings we're seeing, things
we've never seen before,and we have to kind of go, I can't
when people are like, I can't believe withthe election what happened.
I both want to say you
haven't seen anything yet, but also like,where have you been?
Like, let's be honest.
Yes, let's be really honest.
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Eight energy says,why are you pretending to be blind?
Saturn says this lesson is not going away.
Like why would it be going away.
Like this is the next page in your bookand you can get to the next chapter
unless you like, read this or fulfill this
or like show up for this. So.
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For eightspecifically I would think you would
there'd be some intensity.
But around the end of the yearand the beginning of the next year,
because eight and nine energies
that kind of like each other,nine is ruled by Mars.
So we got anger, aggression, boundary
leadership, leadership in all its forms.
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And if you need to translate itto something more feminine,
because sometimeswhen people hear leadership,
they immediatelysee something very masculine or very,
single minded, or they
see like a one person ruler,
which is not how leadership really is.
We're all leaders.
We all show up for ourselvesand other people.
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And there are people looking at you rightnow, both you, me and everyone listening.
And they look to you for like,how do you show up?
Like there's some personal leadershipenergy nine is all about leadership,
but it's very like rooted in ethics,
integrity and the bigger vision. So.
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A question I would ask
people is like,who are you giving your power away to?
Good question.
Yeah. Like what are youwhat are you saying?
Like and and it could be bothyou give the power away to
this would be a nine year question.
It could be people,but it could also be like future you like,
I will do the thing when I'm skinnier,
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or I'll do the thing when I have a betterwardrobe, or I'll do it in the summer
where I have a little bit of a tan,or I'll do it when I get it.
I'm sayingall of these like physical things,
but that's just because I really seepeople get hung up in the physical of like
when I feel like I look
better in whatever way, shape or form
or like I have that I have an accent.
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Sometimes when I talk to Americans,I can hear my own accent and I go, oh,
I'll get a little bit bigger.
I get a little more impactwhen I work on my accent.
Yeah,
or I'll get my teeth fixed.
Or like, there's just a lot of like, it's
we get hung up in these, like, surfacelevel things and we say,
I'll do the big thing onceI fix this physical thing about myself.
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And it's just bullshit.
You can be called it now.
Yeah, you can be a leader now.
I follow this wonderful,
money mindset mentor,
Denise Duffel Thomas, who gives peoplethe job to look in a mirror
or take a picture of themselves and say,this is what a wealthy woman looks like.
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True.
And whether you were a woman or a man orhowever you identify that thing of like,
I am the person I need to be for the job
I have right now,
like I am the leader.
And I'm not waiting for someone elseto save me
or I'm not waiting for my physical realityto be better.
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I am taking care of the shit now,
and I'm also taking care of myself.
Like nineenergy is a very, very physical energy.
So a very practical thing.
I would really recommend everyonenow before the
before your inbox gets filledwith like get skinny in January
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or sign up for the gym in January or lose,you know, blah blah blah.
I would say like investin your physical reality right now.
Like if it is because you need a coach,because you want to lose weight,
or if you are getting olderand you really should be strength training
to like retain musclemass and feel powerful in,
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your wisdom years.
Like now is the time to do itlike it's November 7th.
Like just sign up for the thing now.
Like invest in your physical realityright now.
Because.
To create that thing,
like to create that identity,you need to take action.
So that's what we're saying.
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It's also the year of action.
Yeah.
I just want to mention somethingbecause it's so fascinating
because like I said, I do channeling.
So I allow the guidance and the spirit.
You see this from spiritQuest always guided by spirit.
I have my team's recent order of sevenand this.
It's not been that long.
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I think it was in the beginningof October.
This said, or in one of my channelswith them, they said
that I needed to open up for mentorship.
Never done that to guide people one onone through mentorship, three spots.
And I
okay, I'll I'll do
it because I know this yearI have to lead now they I know
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it's the time, reading energyand working with high frequency energy.
So you can see what the shift I seevibrations.
So when I'm in the tranceI can see how the energy is moving,
how the grids and how the matrixand how it all plays in together.
So it's it's a visual expressionthat is unfolding within me.
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And so I could see the necessityof what they were saying, and,
but I had to go through what I wentthrough to be able to come to that place.
And that realization where I was ableto let go of the 3D matrix
that was still left,that kept me in that old belief system,
keeping me
small in certain aspects of the workI was doing.
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Also, the fear of being rejectedbecause I've been rejected by family
and friends prior,you know, for coming out
and being a channel and going all inbecause I quit my job and I started it.
I just listened to the guidance,the spirit.
And I don't recommend people do thatbecause that had to be my job.
Like I said, I'man eight. It's a. Very eight energy.
Like it is.
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So don't you.
Know any of the circles you're like,there is for at least for a while.
There's only this circle.
And then at some pointyou go, you know what?
What's in my fridge?
Like how how amI in the physical world? But,
you know, I support it.
Yeah.
And I can see that
people who's been on this path for a whileis already catching up on this energy.
So just what you said, nowthat, you know, invest in yourself.
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As soon as I sent out one email,it was just one little line
at the end of the email to my email listand somebody jumped on
and the next time I went out,somebody jumped on.
And it's justthe way the energy is working now.
I think we're all feeling it,feeling our souls calling on us
because the order saysthat the veil is so much thinner
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going into this energyand the nine energy.
So it kind of feels likeI would just want to pull the sand
like it's all the same thing,but you're using the numbers, and I'm
just sensing and getting the informationof how to navigate the energies.
Well, you can actually say, okay, this isthe energies that are playing out now.
How do we navigate it?
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so let's seenow let's look at the professional life.
We did a little bit.You said the leadership part.
So say that somebody now is in the energyworked a lightworker
a visionary whatever we want to be hereand create something
more powerful, a new Earththrough that vibration of consciousness.
So how do we how do we navigate.
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So I mean, nine
energy is like looking at thingsfrom on high.
So we're assuming out like nine energyoften
zooms out and there's like
I use this image
and I think some people get confrontedby it, especially in the spiritual world.
But it's just a very realI use the image of war
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and we have three numbers
that are connected,to specific leadership.
It's one three and nine.
So it's the beginning,
with the one like the one is the general
in front of the army going like,this is, this is where we're going.
And I don't even care if you're following,but this is where we're going.
Like one often says,like there's like some trailblazer
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or like some,some first seeds energy in the one,
then the three energy isthe whole damn army, because those people,
they show up early and they go home lateand they get the job done. And
they are
ambitious and they are hard workingand they are willing to sacrifice.
And then we have the nine energy, which iswhere we are at the end of the line.
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It's also ending.
So it's the thing that says, I'mwilling to die for this,
which is also why I use that in the war.
Like there's certain things that wewe should be willing to sacrifice for.
And if it's not a physical death,it might be identity death, you know, like
it might be something that a part of youthat you've been carrying
that has been small,
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and we might have to kill it, oryou might be willing to die a little bit
to to let it go, to be like I am willing
to give up this belief system.
I'm willing to give up.
I'm gonna use that in that, patternwith the accent again.
Like, I see that with some peoplewhere they're like, I want everything.
But I have this one thing.
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For example, my accent.
And I still feel so connected to it,like I need to sound like I'm
from a specific place. I don't want to be
a new thing yet.
I feel connected to this thing.
Yeah, there can be all this things,but if you're not willing to die,
if you're not willing to give up somethingthat might tether you to a country
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or an identity or a family,then you can't become that new thing
like the Phoenix cannot riseif it has not been burned.
Like you cannot shy away from that fire.
And so the nine energy is that thing like,this is why we fight.
So the question is like,what are you fighting for?
What are you building?What is the world you're building?
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And are you crying about
the worldthat other people have built for you?
Are you deciding to create your own?
Because that's the only waythat worlds get built,
and only way that wars get foughtand won is if someone says, I'm
fighting for something bigger than myselfand I'm building something
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bigger than myself, and even if it doesn'tget done in my lifetime,
or even if I don't get to see this thingfulfilled, I will like,
put bricks in this house,like in this wall.
Like I will build this thing.
I will be someone, and I will believe
that other people will be looking at mewhile I'm building my thing.
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And they will go, oh, that's coolthat she's building that.
Oh, that's coolthat he believes that. Yeah.
And they will go in on that vision
and they will be like,
you know, likethey will commit to that cause.
And nine energy also really, you know,we have to look at anger
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because, anger is that thing that pointsthat says, hey, you right there.
That thing. No no no no, don't do that.
Don't, don't, don't do that to meor don't do that to other people.
Like anger is the thing that, like, drawsa line in the sand, and it activates us.
It activates our nervous system,it activates our life, spiritual defenses.
Something in us go like,
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no, like I will I will rise up to this.
I will not hide.
I will not freeze or will not run,
I will fight.
So, like, yeah, I,
I'm really excited, actually,to see what this
period of, like,some people call it uncertainty,
but I call it like, you know, the worldmoves globally through these nine years,
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these nine stages, and it comes to the endand it has to wrap up shit.
And it's like, we're done with this level.
We're done with this class.
You're moving up. We're moving on.
So like, let go, cut the cords.
You know, finishthat friendship, declutter that closet.
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Like, what is not moving on with youinto this next version.
Or if it's movingon, you might need to detach.
This could also be likeyou asked about professionally.
I'm like,
maybe you can stay if you're ina corporate or more like conventional
field.
Like maybe you can stay where you are, but
maybe you do need to negotiate salaryand responsibilities.
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A sub energy in 2025
because of the 2525has to do with responsibility,
and it's just as much what we areresponsible for as what we're not.
We're not like, if you were a secretary,
that would probably bea personal assistant in this day and age.
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If someone who was not your boss came
and put a bunch of stuff on your deskand were like, can you do this?
You would be like, I don't work for you.
I work for this other guyor this other girl.
I'm going to do their job, their stuff.
And maybe in your life right nowand maybe in your professional lives,
a lot of people have puta lot of stuff on your desk
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that is
not your job or not what you get paid for.
Or maybe you need more compensation and
and you need to figure out a way to say
that is not my job to these people
and get that shit off your desk.
Because also, with all this leadershipstuff, like,
what would it look likeif you went all in?
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You know, what would it look like?
And what are you scared of?
Would it also be mine is also being,
there's some perfectionism,
in benign.
So like sometimes it's that thing of like,is your perfectionism holding you back
from getting really good thingsor afraid of failing?
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Do you think that this version of youthat's bigger, better and better paid,
has to be like,I know, contorted into something weird?
Do they have to be
more perfect in some way?
I would say no, you don't have to bemore perfect in any way.
You can do the thing as you are right now.
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But there are about that question like,what are.
Yeah. Leaning back to like,what's holding you back?
Identify it. Let it go. Cut it down.
Drop it in to little pieces and burn it.
Yes, 2025 would also be a year to burn.
Shit. Yeah. And energetically,
it's a fire year.
So, like, I actually don't know what it isin Chinese,
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astrology.
But to me, as I look at it, I'm like,there's some things that we could burn.
Yeah.
And you might already knowwhat you need to burn.
As you'relistening to this, you would go, like
it is something you need to burn.
Yeah.
It's actually activating the firewithin the element of fire, which again,
is the power, right?
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The rising of the soul.
The soul's calling.
Like I said, if the veil is thinning,meaning that you're you're tuning
more into your authentic self,this is this year has been a big being,
your authentic self coming out, expressingwho you truly are, finding that path.
And now we're have the opportunityto light that fire.
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It's being lit for us.
So if we're tuning in to that,
we will allow the guidance of our soul,which it's easier for us.
I, I feel in this number,I know it can seem difficult
if you're in the lower vibrationsof uncertainty, fear and all that,
but if you're constantly working,doing energy work, you're willing
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to look at what you're doingfrom also a soul perspective
if you're tuning into, okay,so how can, like you said,
what that version of me,what does that look like?
And then tuning into that energeticallyso that you can get the response
from your soul, which will activate spiritthrough that fire.
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So you can actually use the fireas a symbol, as you're
allowing yourselfto step into that power of number nine.
And for that, that can really expandto something truly beautiful.
That's how I feel.
It is for meat this moment, as I've kind of already
been in
the well, I think I've embodied or I'm
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in that flow of the nine energybecause I can feel its senses.
I'm tuning into the vibrations because ofthe channeling, and I know what's coming.
I see the winds of change and how tonavigate it for my own personal benefit.
And so being a channel, it's easierfor me to express
that energy in my work,being call it an example
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or mentoring other othersin order to finally step
into their empowermentto be that empowering person,
that leader in their own life,to cut out those lower vibration
energy cords bonds to anybodywho does not serve your life.
That is not for your highest good.
This is the year that you decidewhat's for your highest good.
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By allowing spirit to step fully inand to embody it in a more profound way,
I think that's going to really shiftthe vibration of what's
going on in the collective.
The more lightworkers, visionaries.
That's whyI'm very tuning into those people today.
And I want to say,if you're a lightworker, define yourself.
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It's just a label, but you're working forthe greater good of the whole
then the nine year we need you.
We need you to step into your power.
We need you. We need your power.
We need to stay in unity and startco-creating
a new structurefor the new Earth vibration.
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I'm just calling a new Earth vibration.
I know it's a consciousness,but let's work on that together this year.
I think that's going to be really powerfuland not let us be distracted
by the external forcesor what's going on in the world.
We know. We know that the answer lies
within the powerwe can solidly stand in our power.
And as you do that,the most powerful thing that I felt
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in that shiftas I reawakened to my power again,
it was the fire and me
being able to just be groundedand having a perspective
without the acknowledgment or fear
or feeling unsecure or unsafe
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in any part of my life anymore.
Because as long as I embodythat vibration, it doesn't exist.
If I lose it, it's back.
But if I can keep the keep it upand then create
that structure that I'm workingon, the what I call the five D
matrix structure, because it startswith us to have that shift in paradigm.
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And so it is it's a powerful can you see.
So it's my energyI'm so excited for next year I truly am.
I think it's going to be amazing.
If lightworkers really understandthe power they
embody and start using thatand not play small.
As you said, it's time.
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It's time. Yeah, well, it's also,
It's that thing of like
without getting tested,we don't know what we can do.
And so I don't I don't see
the world always as, like,this big test, like it would be.
Not everything is Saturnruled in that way.
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But I do think that there's somethingabout like.
Dealing with uncertainty
in a self empowered way.
Because just as we could all get hit
by a bus tomorrow,
like I'm tying this to the election,but it's other things like big, big, scary
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things can happen in the world and you'restill just responsible for yourself.
And sometimes it can be helpfulto go back. And,
one of the tools I use
for people is that I go like,well, let's look at another personal
nine year or like,you know, a year, a global nine year,
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and see if you had any tipsor tricks for your future self,
which is your current selflike so, or 2025.
You could go back to 2016,
which was
also an intense year,and you could go, what, what
what, what happened in 2016if there's anything I could tell myself
right after,like pretend like it's the end of 2016
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and you had like a little post-it noteor maybe just one page in your journal
or on your noteapp on your phone and go like, hey,
these are the three things I wishsomeone had told me at the beginning
of the year.
And just like,
write like go back to 2016,write that little thing for yourself.
You could also go all the way backto, 2007.
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And because there will be overlap,
there's always somethingreally interesting when we change,
the thousands and
we see like the first timewe hit a nine year,
which was in 2007 and then 2016
and then 2025 is the third time.
And there is something aboutthe third time where, like there is like
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like a resonance in the
energy, like it anchors deeper.
Yeah.
Like the first time you hear something,the second time you hear something
and then the third timewhere you can kind of sing the song.
So like you heard some of the song in 2007and it was very foreign.
And then you heard it waystronger in 2016.
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And maybe it was a little scarybecause you were like, oh, that's,
that's a big song.
And then 2025, the song comes backand you're like, okay,
let me sing it like I know the chorus now,
or I know some of these vibrationsand colors and energies,
and I can tell myself how to, like,stay on pitch,
like I can,like I have some tips and tricks here
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and then apply them,because we have such a tendency to be
like, oh, I don't know about the future.
And I'm like,
but you do know about the future,because while I also tell
my clients is the exact same thingis probably not going to happen.
So like, say
weird image,you got a horse or a pet or something.
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In 2016.
Even if you get a new petof the exact same, or a new horse,
or like a new thing in your life,that's like an unpredictable lives
and or like something gets introducedand you're like,
I need to get to know this thing,this pet, this new energy animal.
I might need to get to know it.
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It's never going to bethe exact same animal,
but it's still going to be okay.
This is such a weird time,but it's still going to be that pet.
Like, if it's a horse,you will know about horses.
If it's dogs, you will know about dogs.
If it's a job that like got introduced,
then you know about this job now.
So in some ways2025 is not going to be new to us.
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There'sgoing to be a lot of repetition of things.
You probably like lessonsyou've already known, anger issues,
boundaries, building blocks,finishing things.
People to say goodbye to.
You know,2025 is also like an ending year.
It's an end of one cycle.
Nine years are always like,what are we closing?
What are we killing? What are we?
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Can I love it?
Yeah.
Like I mean, in that way,it's always epic.
you just reminded me of,I think that tip that you gave go back
and look at the last nine yearthat I think that was a wonderful tip,
because I just recognized that in 2016,
that was the first timeI brought a group to Sedona.
I was called by spirit to do a spirit walkthere, and I channel chief.
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Oh, you're doing it again?
Yes. Right. 2019 in March.
Yeah, we're 2025.
I'm doing it again.
Yes. So it's like, yeah.
Just yeah.
Very like, oh it's perfect. Wow.
I would say
that if you are
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scared of power,
then people will have more power over you.
And if you're scared of your inner leader,
then other peopleare going to take charge.
And if you're afraid to be angry,
then you will have to run or put up with
other people's,
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Influence.
And so.
You cannot.
I mean, of course you can run from it.
We can always run
like there's always that opportunityto not engage with a challenge.
You can always postpone the lesson.
You can always say,this is not my dark night of the soul.
Or like, this is not it.
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I'm not far enoughdown the ladder like I'm.
I'm not challenged enough.
I'll just tread water.
And I would just say that, like,
sometimes the things we are afraid of
are just so colored by our fear
that they become very, very big.
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And kind of like in a horror movie
when you don't see the scary thing,it grows and grows and grows.
And sometimes when it steps into the lightyou're like, this is a monster.
Suddenly not so scary anymore.
Or like just a dude with a maskon, like it doesn't even look that tall.
Like I think I can take.
So I would say,
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whatever you're scared of.
Maybe you don't even have to fight it.
Maybe you just have to face it.
I know I talked about dying.
Maybe you don't have to die.Maybe you just have to sit with it.
You know, sometimesthe the big scary thing is sometimes
people come to me and, for example,with, like, anger, they were like,
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my anger is too big.
I'm too afraid if I really felt itor allowed it, what I would do.
And I'm like,
as someone who spent a lot of yearsbeing angry
and as an actor, also being very angry,wonderfully angry on stage,
which can be like catharticfor other people to see.
Like sometimes we're like,I can't allow this thing, but I'll go
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watch some art that has the energythat I'm not allowing myself,
and I will, like, live through that,you know,
I would just say you can survive
anything that will come up,and it's probably
not as scary as you thinkit is, or it will also feel good,
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like we're afraid of feeling bad.
But sometimes just feelingit is a lot better
than staying numbor staying back or holding back.
It's like it's painful to play small.
It's also painful not to be loved
because we're not being authentic.
I guess there's just so much good stuff
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on the other side of, like, facing it.
So I would just say with a lot of love,say like, face it,
show up for it, take action.
And if you feel very
challenged by these things,like sometimes it really helps to go back.
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You could get a numerology reading,right here.
You could get a reading with Rebecca.
You could get a reading
with anyone you're attracted to,like someone who has like an energy.
Because it's not just what we tell people,it's who the channel is.
So, like,find someone you want to listen to.
Like, find someone you feel safe with,someone you're like, I want to.
I my nervous system,feel safe with this person.
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Like I can breathe deeply.
I can
see their face like I can, I can engage,I feel like
I feel like I can be presentwith this person and maybe get like a
reading of, like, your birth chartor like your, your origin.
Because also like at the end of the line,sometimes
we need to be remindedabout where we started.
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And I mean, I feel like that's my work isoften like reminding people who they are.
And it's not
to me, it's very, very simple
and very,very beautiful to share those things
and be like, look how simple and beautifulyou are in some way.
Like this.
This is so pretty.
Like, look at it like, oh, there you are.
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And just like thatreminder makes us feel stronger
because we can also pretend a lot,but we're something else.
We can play a lot of parts,
something we might not felt in 2024said, oh, I play all these parts.
I'm all these different people.
I can't consolidate them.
I don't know who I am.
I'm this personwith my friends, with my family,
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my coworkers.
Who am I really?
And you are all those people,but you're also something bigger.
So like just also a reminderthat like there is help and support
and sometimesjust the reminder of who we are
can help us like
become and again.
Reclaim our power.
Yeah.
Start shifting from the external world
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to the internal worldwhere everything is created.
Yes, yes yes.
Yeah. It's up to us to express it.
So it's beautiful.
Thank you so much, Novalee.
It's beautiful to have you here.
I love your energy. Azure.
next year.
I'm sure there's going to be some monthsthat's going to be exciting to dive into.
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Yes. Now we just had a broadlook at the number nine
and how that can help us.
And it,it enlightens me because it's like, yes,
we can see the synchronicitiesin everything
and all the spiritual aspectsand all the fragmented parts that
are being called into play
in the numbernine that needs to be expressed.
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And so I think it'sa beautiful, beautiful time.
And I just want to lift itbecause yes, we can see the doom
if we're focused in the external world.
But look at us, look at you normally.
Look at us coming together,people watching where we're here
with an open heart.
We're herebecause we believe in something greater.
We herebecause we want to express, to support,
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to be of servicesomehow and just to live in unity.
And I think that's beautiful.
There's so much hope inwhatever is going on.
Let's focus our attention,our energy towards
what brings hope,what brings peace, what brings love.
And, yeah,let's hold space for each other.
We can hold space for thosewho are struggling.
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We're here holding space.That's what we do.
That's how we show up for each other.
So with that,I want to thank you again, Novalee.
And, for everyone who's been watching ustoday, thank you so much for joining us,
and I hope to see you back next time.
Any final words I leave you,I will give you the final words.
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Well, if numerology sounds interesting,
go check out my website at NovaleeWilder A.com.
I also have books,a little bit of numerology,
and a little bit of angel numbersif you want to dive into that.
And then I just don't lose hope.
I love that, I love that.
Handle the word like, don't lose hope.
thank you very much
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and have a wonderful day, everyone,wherever you are in this beautiful world.
Bye now. Bye.
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