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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello everyone,
welcome to our Spiritual
Spotlight Series.
Today I'm joined by RachelLevine.
She is an herbalist, a humandesign guide, yoga therapist and
the founder of her lifestylebrand Intuitively Wild.
Rachel, thank you so much forcoming on the Spiritual
Spotlight Series.
I'm so happy you're here.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I am so happy to be
here.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
So, with your skill
set and your abilities being an
herbalist, being a human designguy, yoga, a yoga therapist and
the founder of this lifestylebrand like where did your path
start with this to where you aretoday?
It's like that's a broad rangeof a skill set, an amazing skill
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set.
But how does one become anherbalist and a human design
guide and also a yoga therapist?
So tell me all about it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, it's definitely
been a long and winding path.
I would say for me it allstarted with yoga.
Yoga was my first love, Ialways say, and I fell in love
with it at a pretty young ageand it was my whole life, for a
very long time.
And I went to school for yogatherapy and just like, really
immersed myself in that world.
And then I started to becomeaware that I wanted to bring
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other modalities into my life,and that's how I found herbalism
.
I just became, honestly, all ofthese modalities found me.
Really, I just found myselfbecoming immersed in them and
obsessed and just wanting tolearn more and more.
And then all of a sudden I waslike I guess I'm going to get
trained in this and althoughthey might seem not connected
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and very different and they arethey're very different Me.
They're all just tools that Iuse to help people connect with
themselves.
So when I'm working with people, I'm not just working with
people as a human design guideor as a yoga therapist.
Those are the tools I use tohelp people find that connection
within themselves and reallytap into who they are and what
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their path is in this life.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah.
So one of the things that youdo is you like, let me ask you
this why is connecting to nature, yourself and others?
Why is that the best way totool, the tool to live in
alignment and to thrive?
Cause I'm somebody who I livein a I live in the country sort
of, but I find myself it's hardto feel reconnected back to
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nature Like, and I and I do feelout of alignment when that does
happen.
So why is that so important forus as individuals?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well, nature we are
meant to live in tune with
nature.
That's how we were created andthat's our rhythm is in
alignment with nature.
And then our current daysociety kind of brings us out of
that and so bring ourselvesinto balance can be facilitated
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by connecting.
Yeah, and you know when you askabout in your first question,
like my personal path was ajourney of disconnecting and
then using these tools toreconnect.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I really feel like
the pillars of self-connection,
nature connection, communityconnection.
You need all three to reallylive a truly well and full life.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, so you
personally experienced struggles
with mental health and maybe atoxic lifestyle.
Like, how did you overcome ormaybe coming to terms with, you
know, having a positive mentalhealth mindset?
Cause I do feel like mentalhealth ebbs and flows and we all
maybe cycle into struggles withmental health.
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Like, how did you, how did youfind yourself like hitting that
wall of being like I need to dosomething else with my life?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, it's really
interesting because when I was
at my most mentally unwell, youcould look at me and think I was
thriving.
I and everyone.
That was the feedback I wasgetting.
People always praise me for mydiscipline and my diet and my
exercise regime and howstructured I was, and that just
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fed into it for me more and more.
And I think the surface veryfew people knew I was struggling
and I think the surface veryfew people knew I was struggling
but I was very unwell and myrock bottom happened in a place
where externally I looked veryhealthy, and so I think folks
can be deceiving, which is, Ithink, very important for
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everyone to remember.
And I hit that wall and I knewthings had to change.
When I was just waking up overand over, not knowing how I was
going to get through the day andnot wanting to live like that
anymore, I was very anxious.
I had an eating disorder and Ididn't even have the full
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awareness of at the time, I justknew that I couldn't.
I couldn't keep going.
How it?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
was Right.
Right, I find that interestinghow you kind of talked about.
You know, looks can bedeceiving and I do feel like we
have such a fixation on how weshould look, how we should
present, how we should be, andit's interesting that only a
little, some people only knewabout your true struggles.
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And do you find that now withyour clients that maybe you know
that they're also maybeexperiencing the same kind of?
You know it sounds like alittle bit of perfectionism and
you know how you want tooutwardly present.
Do you do you find that withyour clients and how do you work
with that kind of?
I have this presentation of howI want to be, but yet it's not
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working for me anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Absolutely.
So many of my clients deal withperfectionism and people
pleasing and trying to stick tothe status quo or expectations,
and a lot of the work I do isabout aligning people with their
true values and help them livein alignment with that and
understanding what is getting inthe way of us doing that,
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because it's not just aboutknowing what our values are,
it's also about being able toactually embody them, and
knowing might stop us from doingthat, and so it's a
multi-layered process and Ithink a lot of it comes down to
intentionality.
It's not necessarily what we'redoing, it's why and how we're
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doing it, and understanding thatpiece is really important.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I find that
interesting how you brought up
like what are your true values?
Do you find that and this is, Iguess, the reason why I want to
like kind of shift to this isthat I'm wondering.
I'm like I wonder if my truevalues aren't really maybe like
at the core.
Maybe they're, maybe I thinkthey are, but maybe they're not.
Have you ever found that, maybewith yourself or maybe with
some of your clients, thatyou're like um, that's not your
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true values.
Like?
Have you ever experienced?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
that, oh my God, all
the time, all the time.
I think that we can think we'veour value is something, but
that's just based onconditioning, or what we've been
told should be and, or whatlike what we see other people
doing or have told us to told itshould be, and or what like
what we see other people doingor have told us to it should be.
Or we think that our value issomething, but then, when we dig
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a little deeper, that's notactually what it is.
So, for example, say, you thinkthat luxury travel is a value
of yours, but really you don'tcare if it's luxurious, you just
want the freedom to be able totravel whenever you want, and so
for you it's more freedom.
Right, and so it's.
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It's again getting to the rootof it all, and knowing yourself
is so important.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Right, I really like
how you just put that too,
because I'm somebody who wantsto travel.
I don't care how I travel, butI love the idea of freedom and I
like that.
You, kind of like you, youunveiled that layer of well, you
might want to stay at afive-star hotel, but really is
it because you just want freedom?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
That's really
interesting, exactly, exactly,
because having the freedom tospend our money how we want,
that's an important value.
And I think words are sopowerful, right, the wording we
use, especially when we're kindof creating these pillars for
our values, can impact how weframe ourselves in our mind and
then how we then go off andcreate our life.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Oh, I love that so
much.
So, being an herbalist, I lovethe fact that you help people
work with the seasons, so likeherbs, flowers and plants to
support you through each cycle.
We're going into winter rightnow.
As we're doing this recordingwhat would be some
recommendations that you wouldhave for your clients right now.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, I am just
launching two new products for
the winter season.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Tell us all about it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You can go to my
online apothecary to check those
out.
I'm really excited about those,and one is a fire cider and one
is a tea.
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I'm sorry to cut you
off, but I have been desperately
wanting to find somebody thatsells fire cider and I am not
even kidding you, I am soexcited.
But please tell me more.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I am obsessed with
this fire cider.
I love fire cider.
For those who don't know, it'san elixir.
It's made with apple cidervinegar and cinnamon and there's
many different recipes.
I have really honed in on onethat I love, that I think is
really powerful and potent andalso tastes really good, and it
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has honey and rosemary and onionand garlic.
It's my fire cider is my numberone recommendation when it
comes to the seasonal shifts ininto because it strengthens our
immune system, it strengthensour nervous system, it is, it's
so nourishing and it has so manybenefits.
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You can, you can and you cancook with it.
You can add it to your teas, toeven just warm water shoes, all
the things.
So I'm really passionate aboutthis fire cider.
I'm'm so excited, I really am.
And then I have a tea, also forthe winter season, called soft
strength, and for me, this tea.
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Actually it might be gettingthat Now I'm nervous, I'm
getting the names confused, butwe're just very excited about
your products.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
It's okay, we'll,
we'll, we'll make sure to link
your apothecary to this, thisepisode.
I think that's so cool.
Well, did you said softstrength is the name of the tea.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'm pretty sure,
cause the tea is all about
grounding into the softness thatthis winter season can bring,
yes, and nourishing ourselvesthrough that.
I think so much.
So many of us can get reallycaught up in the holidays and in
the busyness and the go, go, go, the activity.
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But winter is a time to slowdown and a time to soften into
ourselves and reflect, and thistea is hopefully a ritual you
can add to your day to createthat space for yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I have to say I love
that name soft strength going
into, like the winter, when weshould be reflective and we
should be turning inward and weshould be gentle with oneself.
Like it sounds like a verypowerful but yet soothing tea,
like I just think that's so cool.
Now let me ask you this forwhere we are we're in New York
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and a lot of we it's very darkhere.
You know all the time what willbe soon.
We get very sad and depressedin the winter months.
Do you?
Is there anything like that youwould recommend, with your
skillset, or maybe being anherbalist, that you would
recommend for the listeners tomaybe help ease the feeling of
our seasonal affective disorderthat we all have?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, absolutely.
I think that staying connectedto nature during this time and
really shift things, because Igrowing up I hated winter.
I was very impacted by it.
I avoided it all as soon as Icould.
I moved to Hawaii and was justlike avoided summer.
And now I'm back living in NewYork and this is one reason I'm
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so passionate about seasonalliving, because it really has
supported my mental health andmy connection to the
ever-evolving seasons.
And now I love the seasons.
And one way I embrace that isby embracing, leaning into the
shift in weather.
So making sure to still gooutside, making sure to, you
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know, take in anything I canlike.
When it's getting darker, I usethat to light my candles and
step outside and look at thestars and just walking around in
nature, observing the trees,the leaves falling off the trees
, like really being present.
Right seasons are shiftingaround us and noticing what is
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happening in nature, becauseit's also happening within
ourselves.
You know, going intohibernation, and so are we and
that's a part of the process andembracing that and finding the
magic in that.
So my biggest suggestion is tokeep going outside, especially
first thing in the morning andin the evening, as you're kind
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of transitioning to restingafter your busy day.
Having those moments in natureto pause and connect to that
stillness and that softness andjust look around you and be
present can help you stay.
See the positives and the magicin this in the darker times.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I love those.
I love that.
I love those suggestions.
I really do.
I'm somebody who I'm not thebiggest fan of winter, so it's
like cause, I'm like oh, but I'mgoing to, I'm going to
implement these ideas and I'mgoing to be a lover of all
seasons.
I think that's amazing.
I like the idea of lighting thecandles, like in the evening.
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I like that.
That's that sounds like againlike softening and making things
you know when you get out ofyour hustle and bustle, which I
think a lot of us get stuck in,that you know mode and then
maybe going home and doing likea rest and relax.
I like, I really liked thatidea.
It's really good, practicaladvice.
So you have this amazing brand,intuitively wild.
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Um, can you tell us about this?
And like how can we learn moreand tell us more about it?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, so intuitively
wild is a lifestyle brand that
helps you reconnect to yourself,nature and others, and really
the intention is connection.
All our products and servicesare rooted into that and we have
many different offerings, fromfree offerings such as a podcast
, youtube, substack, and also Ihave a mentorship, I have the
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online apothecary and very soonI'll have in-person events and
many different things in personas well, if you're in upstate
New York, but I am oh, that'sexciting.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I guess it depends on
what our definition of upstate
New York is.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
That's very true.
But yeah, for me I really didlive so much of my life I mean
up until a certain age verydisconnected, and the way that I
found myself, the way that Ifound my path, this vitality is
by is through connection, and Imy whole purpose in life, what I
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live for now, is to help othersfind that sense of connection,
and so that's all.
I hope that all my offeringsbring through Intuitively Wild.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I love that so much.
Tell us a little bit more aboutyour podcast.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, so my podcast
every.
So twice a month we have soloconversations, which what?
The first episode of the monthis an reflection of the month
that passed and intentionsetting episode for the month to
come, and the other, solo, is aritual for the month and that's
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really dependent on what'shappening that month.
It might be for the solstice orthe full moon or the equinox
that you know, it depends.
And then the other two podcastsare conversations with guests
like yourself, and we go deep.
I really my intention with thatis to have people on to share
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conversations that previouslymaybe were harder to talk about
and get vulnerable.
I think it's really importantto shed light on conversations
that we're told to feel shamearound or not talk about,
because that eradicates theshame and shows us that we're
all moving through life togetherand deeper into connections.
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So that's my, my podcast.
It's also everything's underthe name intuitively wild, and
starting that podcast was a hugetransition for me into using my
voice and showing up moreauthentically.
So I I love the podcast so much.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I love that so much
and I love the fact that you're
you're giving practical tools.
You know, in the solo episodesyou're you've brought up a
couple times like intentions,intentional living.
That seems like a very strongpoint in your life.
Could you tell us a little bitmore why that's important to you
?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, reflections,
intentions and rituals are key
pillars in my life, and that'sfor a lot of reasons.
I think that they areactionable and tangible tools
that can bring that spiritualrealm down into embodiment and
really feel approachable for allof us.
And I think that only throughreflecting can we understand who
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we are and understand who wewant to be moving forward, and
then setting those intentionsallows us to actually create the
steps to do so, to actuallyembody that, to actually bring
that into our day-to-day life.
And the rituals are thepractice of that.
That's what it was.
It's the reminder and theconstant reconnection to who we
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are and who we want to be andbringing that into our life,
because it's not just abouthaving those mindfulness
practices or having those youknow wellness practices as
one-offs.
It's actually embodying thatdaily and letting that soak into
who we are.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Right.
So one of the things that Ifeel is important and I would
imagine this is something that'svery important to you is
spiritual hygiene.
So, like, do you have any,maybe daily rituals or any daily
practices that you do to makesure that you feel connected,
true to yourself, authentic,that you would feel comfortable
sharing with the audience?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
true to yourself,
authentic, that you would feel
comfortable sharing with theaudience.
Yeah, of course, I think thatthis is so personal and everyone
is so different.
Yes, so true, yeah, and that'sa big thing for me as well, and
that's one reason why I loveworking one-on-one with people
is figuring out the rituals thatwork for you.
If you're asking for mepersonally, I'm a morning person
through and through, and I amdevoted to my morning practice,
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my morning ritual.
It's everything to me.
So I wake up and I get on mymeditation cushion, I sit with
my dog in my lap and I meditate,I breathe, I journal and I
light all my candles, and then Imove into some yoga, and that
is a key foundation of my life.
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That is how I stay connected tomyself every day.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I love that and I
really I love the fact that if
anyone's not listening orwatching the video as she's
saying, that, you could tell shejust lights up with joy.
Listening or watching the videoas she's saying that, you could
tell she just lights up withjoy.
Like it must.
It must bring you so much likepeace within, like for
struggling, but go ahead.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
It really does, and I
am a structured person.
I do like schedules androutines, and that's not always
possible.
And so not in my routine.
My anxiety can heighten, butthis ritual I can bring with me
everywhere and no matter what, Ican wake up I mean, I naturally
wake up earlier than everyonebut even so, even five minutes
by myself in the morning, I canjust sit with myself and know
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that that's going to bring methe peace I need throughout the
rest of my day, even when myanxiety is heightened, and that
really, that practice has savedme so many times.
I love that so much.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
So one of the things
that I I respect yoga so much,
but as somebody who is not veryflexible, do you have any like?
I mean, I'm sure that that's,that's okay, but I mean, do you
have any like?
Do you meet resistance withpeople that are like, oh, I
can't do yoga?
Like, how do you help overcomethat and help people realize
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that it's, it's a possibilityfor you.
You just have to change yourmindset.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Absolutely.
I get this all the time andthat was a common sentiment and
that does not matter at all.
Yoga is not for people who areflexible, it's for everybody,
because it's like saying I can'twalk fast, so I shouldn't walk.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Oh, I love that.
That's a good analogy.
I like that.
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
That's a good analogy
.
I like that Because, first ofall, yoga has so many different
pillars and the physical asanais only one of them, so you can
shape, shift into a certain form.
They're meant to serve yourbody, so it doesn't matter if
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you can touch your toes, it justmatters that you're getting the
benefits from the stretch toserve your body, and so you just
have to find the postures thatyour body needs in this moment,
and I take some digging, or Imight take finding the right
teacher, working one on one withsomeone.
Yeah, but yoga is here to serveeveryone.
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It's here to fit you.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Do you find that when
people are, you know, with
doing your yoga practices andwith your yoga therapy, that
they're releasing?
Because I do feel like it goesin line with somatics that
they're releasing like energythat's stuck to them, and that's
one of the reasons why yoga isso important.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yes, absolutely.
We store so many emotions inour body.
Pain, trauma, energy it's allheld in our body and it's like
the.
I don't know if you've heard ofthe book the body keeps the
score body, and it's like the.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I don't know if
you've heard of the book the
Body Keeps the Score, theEmotion Code the Body Keeps the
Score.
Like all of those amazing books, it's so true.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
It's so, it's so true
.
And then, when I first startedpracticing yoga, I would do hip
openers and just start bawling,and this is when I was like 15.
I had no awareness around any ofit.
I'm like why am I crying?
But I know that I need to becrying and that is an experience
that so many people have that Iwork with, and I think we can't
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disconnect from our bodies.
We can't just push our bodiesto the brink either.
We have to be really workingwith them and connecting to them
, and yoga is a physicalpractice that helps us do that.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, I love that.
And being an intuitive mentor,like what do you tap in for your
clients, cause it's you've saidthat it's individualized and it
sounds very personal.
Do you have, like, maybe somecommon themes that you're
finding with some of yourclients, or are you just
intuitively guided to where youneed to go with that person?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Definitely both.
There's uniqueness ineverything.
I would say.
Some common themes are kind oflike what we talked about before
the people using theperfectionism, the overwhelm and
the disconnection.
A lot of people who are feelinglike they're just living on
autopilot mode and they don'tknow what their purpose is, or
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they feel like they're justgoing along with what everyone
else is doing, but they don'twant to be.
They want to know who they areand what their purpose is.
So those are some common themes,but underneath that there's
always personal layers aroundwhy that's showing up for that
person and what their block isto move through that.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I love that.
Can you tell us a little bitmore about your mentorship?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, so a lot of
what we talked about is woven
into it and, like I said, thehuman design, the yoga therapy,
the herbalism those are alltools that I use to then help
people connect with themselvesand, specifically, when we're
talking about intuition, connectwith this inner guidance, this
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inner wisdom within them.
And it shows up differently foreveryone and we kind of get to
the root of how it's showing upfor you.
And similarly, with the values,there's different layers to
that.
It's understanding how yourintuition speaks to you and then
strengthening that muscle sothat you can connect to it more
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easily, and then knowing why youmight have resistance to
listening to it and thenactually trusting your intuition
, following it and using that toguide your life, and so those
are kind of the different stepswe move through.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Oh, that's so perfect
, that's so perfect.
And if anyone is interested inlearning more about you I know
you have the pocket theory, youhave the podcast.
She has a website.
Where's the best place for themto go to?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Um, I would say it's
all on the website.
So maybe the website, yeah, butalso you can come find me on
Instagram and DM me and we canchat there and you can ask me
any questions you have and I canguide you.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I love it.
And for our final question, Iguess let me see if I can figure
out a good question for yourfinal question.
If somebody is, maybe, you know, maybe they're stuck in this
perfectionist model and they'refeeling like they're going going
, going going, but they knowthat it's not working for them
anymore and maybe they've hitthat wall and they're struggling
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within.
What is one piece of advicethat you can give to them to
maybe have them pause on thisjourney and realize that they're
not alone?
Yeah, have them pause on thisjourney and realize that they're
not alone.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, what's coming
up for me is don't be afraid to
do things differently.
And you know, change is reallyscary for all of us, and not
only do we get so used to who weare, but other people around us
do.
And when we start to makechanges or connect more to our
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authenticity, other people mightrespond negatively to that or
have reactions or responses tothat or have reactions or
responses to that.
And we have to really have theconfidence within ourselves to
stay true to ourselves.
Yeah, and I would say prioritizeyour sense of connection above
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all else and be willing to showup differently, be willing to be
the different person.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I love that, I love
that answer and I love the being
okay with being connected withyour true self and being able
being okay with that and I thinkwe do struggle as a society to
be okay with who I am as aperson and I would imagine that
your mentorship and everythingthat you offered people really
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helped them to reconnect totheir true, authentic beings.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yes, Authenticity is
one of the biggest things I work
with people on and you know itmakes me really frustrated,
because it should be easy for usto show up authentically in the
world, but it's actually one ofthe scariest things.
It's actually one of the mostchallenging things.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
It is so true.
And I'm going to pivot toanother thing.
Because it's so true, like eventoday, I was meeting with two
people and we were talking abouthow we didn't feel comfortable
to eat in front of certainpeople.
And I know, that's such asimple thing eating like eating
and you know, being exposed.
But it's so fascinating becauseit's and I was even like to
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myself.
I'm like I cannot believe thatthe three of us share this
concern and it's like, wow,that's not being tapped to my
intuitive, authentic self, youknow.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
And yeah, no, and I
think that that's so important
to share, because that's alsoanother testament to talking
about the things that we feelshame about, because now you see
that all three of you arehaving this similar situation,
experiencing like, oh, maybe itis okay, maybe I can show up
this way, maybe it isn't soserious or I don't have to feel
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ashamed of it or hide it.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yes, thank you.
Thank you.
I am not going to feel shamed.
I'm not.
It's, it's, and I feel like, asa woman and I feel like you
probably have experienced thistoo Like we go, we are
conditioned to feel shame andit's like unwrapping that is.
I love the fact that everythingthat you're doing is helping
(30:03):
people to unwrap that and peelthat layer off, to really truly
be their authentic, beautifulselves.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yes, the reason.
Often I've noticed that whatmakes us us, what makes us our
most authentic beings, whatmakes us most special and unique
, is what makes us different andis what we have the most shame
around and have to work throughthe shame and let ourselves be
different to be our mostauthentic selves and be willing
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to shine bright and willing tostand out.
And that is terrifying for alot of us.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
that is terrifying
and I will say, with that answer
, I now have chills.
I want to thank you, rachel, somuch for coming to the
Spiritual Spotlight Series.
It has truly been amazing toconnect with you today.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yes, Thank you so
much.
This was so much fun.
I love your energy and I'mreally grateful to be here.
I'm really grateful you're heretoo.