April 24, 2025 • 36 mins
What if healing didn’t require reliving every painful memory? Join us for an inspiring conversation with Erin Panzarella, a spiritual mentor and quantum healer whose life story is a testament to transformation and resilience.
Adopted and having faced abandonment issues after her father's early death, Erin found herself battling anxiety and depression. Yet, through her mother’s Reiki practice, she experienced a profound spiritual awakening that set her on a path of healing and self-discovery.
Erin’s journey emphasizes how energy work can release stored emotions and trauma without needing to remember every detail, offering hope to anyone navigating their healing journey.
Throughout this enlightening episode, we journey through the complex terrain of somatic healing and energy work, exploring how these modalities can regulate our nervous system and help us stay grounded.
Erin shares her insights on the balance between experiencing emotions and striving for presence, teaching us that feeling safe and connected in our bodies is vital for healing. We delve into the importance of honoring our current state and embracing authenticity as foundational steps in personal growth, all while learning to appreciate the rich tapestry of gifts we each bring to the world.
We wrap up our discussion by exploring the diverse talents within the spiritual community, with a special focus on the unique abilities of psychic and Akashic record readers.
Erin reminds us of the power in perseverance and the importance of sharing our light, even when faced with challenges. By holding space and staying true to our purpose, we can make meaningful contributions to the collective consciousness.
Don’t miss this opportunity to be inspired by Erin’s story and discover how you, too, can tap into your own inner strength and wisdom.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello everyone, Welcome to our Spiritual
Spotlight Series.
Today I am joined by ErinPantabella.
I love saying her last name,it's super fun.
She is a spiritual mentor andquantum healer.
Thank you so much for coming tothe Spiritual Spotlight Series.
I'm so happy you're here.
I'm so happy to be here.
So we're just going to jumpright in, Erin, and your journey
is both inspiring andtransformational.
(00:23):
Can you maybe start by sharinga bit about your background and
how your experience as anadopted child have shaped your
spiritual path?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, for sure.
So we'll start at the beginning.
Like you said, I'm adopted andalso 11 days before my fifth
birthday my dad passed away.
So I would say that this likecore wound sort of developed
from both, you know, beingadopted and my dad passing away
so young.
So this fear, I would say, ofabandonment was really really
(00:54):
big in my life.
So, of course, you know, I wasvery young so I didn't really
understand this and I was soconvinced subconsciously that I
was broken that everyone wasgoing to leave me.
And it really impacted the waythat I showed up in my
day-to-day life throughchildhood, through preteen
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teenage and early adulthood.
So I went down a pretty darkpath for many years because I
really was trying to fix myself.
I thought I was broken but Ididn't realize how big of an
impact the grief that I had wasreally like weighing on me and I
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think, being adopted and alsolosing my dad so young.
A lot of people don't reallyknow how to approach that
subject.
So even I was one of the onlyadopted people that I knew and I
feel like everyone didn't knowhow to approach the topic of
adoption and then when my dadpassed away, no one spoke about
death.
So there was these thingscoming up within me that I felt
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like I couldn't talk about withpeople, up within me that I felt
like I couldn't talk about withpeople and I had a lot of, I
would say, repressed sadness,grief, anger, whatever it was,
that kept bubbling up to thesurface and I really didn't know
how to manage it.
So, like I said, I kind of feltlike I was broken.
I felt like I was verydifferent.
I felt like I was weird and inmy first year of college I tried
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out for a sorority and I reallydidn't want to do it but
everyone was doing it and thiswhole group of you know girls,
women rejected me and that sortof experience really brought
that core wound that I'm brokenand I'm different up to the
surface to a point where I couldnot ignore it anymore.
So I really started to fallinto like a deep depression.
(02:52):
I had a lot of anxiety and mymom, who had been a Reiki master
healer for many years some ofthe things that she was doing I
was so resistant to.
You know, I thought my mom wasdoing this weird stuff.
You know, friends would comeover when I was younger and I'd
be like they're like, what isyour mom doing in the basement?
I was like I don't know, shedoes this weird things.
But some of the modalities thatshe started to use, I became
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really open to using thembecause I was so desperate to
feel better.
I just knew that the way that Iwas living my life, I was not
going to be here much longer ifI continue down that path.
And I definitely know that somuch of my own spiritual healing
journey has been connectingwith those core wounds,
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connecting with like what impactbeing adopted had, what impact
losing my dad so young, had.
And really the thread that mymom sort of planted with
spiritual healing journey is onethat I've been on now for like
almost 15 years at this pointand it has been, you know, so
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transformational.
But that's really what led meto the journey for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I love that.
So what was it about your firstexperience, you know, with a
Reiki healer probably your momthat resonates with deeply and
inspired you to need to pursuemore of a career in spiritual
healing.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, I love this question I'm going to share,
actually, one that's not relatedto my mom.
So when I was so, when I wasyounger, though, I would have
really horrible menstrual crampsand that was the only time I
would let my mom do Reiki on me,because I was like in so much
pain.
So she would be like, let me doReiki, and I was like, okay,
okay, fine, and it did help.
(04:32):
So there was this little likeinkling of like okay, whatever
she's doing, like sort of works,like whatever it is.
I don't get it, it's weird, butsomething works.
But I feel like so much of thebeginning of my own spiritual
healing journey was connectingto spirituality aside from my
mom, like without her, because Ireally needed to explore it on
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my own.
Now we have so manyconversations about it, but
really in the beginning it waslike, okay, let me do everything
I can like without her.
So I went to a Reiki healingcircle at a yoga studio like
near.
My friends were like, hey, youwant to go to this Reiki circle?
And I was like, yeah, sure, itwas the first time I was ever in
a Reiki circle and I just saw,you know, going with some
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friends to a yoga studio.
I didn't really have an idea ofwhat was going to transpire
there and that Reiki healingcircle was one of the most
transformational healings I'veever received in my life.
I essentially had sort offlashbacks of past lives.
I connected with Christconsciousness for the first time
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where, like, jesus came intothis Reiki healing circle and I
grew up Jewish, so I really hadno connection.
Yeah, I really was like what isJesus doing here?
But I really had this hugeawakening in that experience
that was so monumental becauseprior to that Reiki healing
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circle, because of my ownabandonment wounds, because of
the way I was navigating,because of fear of people
leaving me, I had a reallyanimate wounds.
Because of the way I wasnavigating, because of fear,
people leaving me, I had areally big pattern of lying.
I would like hide.
I was so afraid to like showpeople my authentic self.
I was like living in secret andso many things.
I had so much shame and afterthis Reiki healing circle I have
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like no desire to show up, likein that lying, in that secrecy,
and it was something that wassuch a big healing within me
that I was completelytransformed after that one
circle and I was like after thatit was kind of like, okay, I'm
sold, like let's dive in towhatever we can here.
But in that Reiki healing Ifelt unconditional love like I
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had never felt before before.
I had seen past lives whereenergy was getting like pulled
out of my body, this like darkenergy that I'd held on for so
long, and I saw this allhappening.
I never had experiencing likeexperience like that before that
.
It really was sotransformational for me.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I love that.
That sounds so amazing.
So one of the things thatyou've mentioned is that you
don't need to know your lineageor your heritage to heal.
Can you maybe elaborate on thisand explain how someone can
begin their healing journeywithout this knowledge?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, I love this question.
So, even like, even with thisexperience, like in this Reiki
healing, so much healinghappened to me, but I didn't
really consciously know what Iwas healing.
So there was a lot of thingsthat came up, like I said, with
a past life, like I had no ideaabout any of that.
That was the first time I everexperienced it and when I was in
this Reiki circle I was so opento receive this, like knowing
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of my own innate wholeness.
I really believe that's whathealing is, that something
transformed within me that Ididn't need to consciously know.
And I feel a lot of the timeson my own healing journey, you
know I would connect withdifferent teachers and I would
find they were like, okay,connect with your inner child.
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But I was someone who barelyhad any memories of who I was
before my dad died.
You know I had a lot of thingsblocked out from traumatic
experiences in my childhood thatI didn't have conscious
memories of, like what thejoyful inner child was.
Yeah, I didn't have consciousmemories of what happened when I
was adopted.
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Like I know that somethinghappened, like energetically,
but I don't remember the momentI was born and then being pulled
from like the birth mother.
Yeah, really, my work was likehow do we work with the energy
of it?
How do you work with thesubconscious, who, I mean, I
believe, has the memories evenif we don't have to consciously
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remember it?
And I really decided to diveinto how can we, instead of like
getting obsessed with talkingabout the past or obsessed with,
like trying to figure out theroot cause, in a way that just
like talking it out, I was likehow can we get to the energy
underneath, how can we get tothe beliefs that are existing
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without necessarily needing torecall the memories there?
And that work has been soamazing.
It's been hard.
I definitely, as I started toheal, I started to recall more
memories and I'm someone whobelieves that number one, you
don't have to remembereverything, like I'm definitely
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living proof.
To do big healing, you don'thave to remember things.
And also, when it's relevantfor our own healing, in the
moment, the memory will surfaceAbsolutely.
So I really started to takethis, you know this, knowing
that just because he doesn't, Ican't remember, it doesn't mean
I can't heal it.
It doesn't mean that I'm broken.
(09:41):
This like running theme of likethinking I'm broken, like no,
there's just.
There's nothing wrong with me.
My body is doing what it needsto.
My brain is doing what it needsto to protect me.
And if I'm meant to recallsomething, I will.
And so many memories have comeup to the surface for me to
explore.
But I started this work withoutremembering anything, like I
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really had absolutely no memoryof so much of my childhood
preteen.
Like my friends used to joke,it's like someone took an eraser
to my brain.
It really was like sointeresting.
I was like why is my braindoing that?
Out of curiosity.
But I realized that I couldn'tjust go surface level with my
healing.
I had to go do that energeticand the subconscious underneath
it.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I think I love how you just answered that, because
it brings up such a valuablepoint that you don't have to go
and rehash every single traumaand every single memory in order
to be able to heal.
You know the energy will go towhere it needs to go.
It will release what needs tobe released when it's ready to
go, like I.
Just I resonate that so much asbeing an energy healer, which
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I'm sure you are as well.
You are as well.
It's just we don't have to knoweverything.
You just got to get in and dothe work and you don't.
It's like I.
But I feel like sometimes weget stuck on.
Well, what happened when youwere four?
What does it matter?
What happened when I was four?
Like, I'm ready to heal,girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I know and I was someone I like you know I did
try I get.
I got tripped up by it.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Like I think I did as well, for sure, and how I
explaining how it works too.
It just does.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It just does yeah, completely and even just um.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
There's so many things like I'm not sure if you
heard of like the body keepsscore.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So just so many elements ofthat deeply resonated with me,
cause I was like, even if Ican't remember, my body
remembers.
How can I connect with my bodyin a way that's helping me
release the energy here,somatically, like through breath
work, whatever modality,through energy healing, whatever
modality is really mostresonating for you in this
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moment?
But connecting to movementpieces with my body and getting
into the body and even a reallybig opening into this work was
yoga for me.
And I realized like, oh my God,when I do a hip opener, I start
to like release all theseemotions that I have no idea
where they're coming from.
So I did have to also likereally get this connection with
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my body and like being presentwith the body in order to
release things.
And, like I said that you don'thave to remember what you're
releasing.
You know that you're releasingwhen you start doing a hip
opener and you're hystericallycrying for no reason.
When you're like connecting andlike dancing to a song and you
can like feel emotions of it,you know that something's moving
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through your body when you'reengaging in those practices.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Absolutely, and you kind of bring up.
A really valuable point is thatcan you explain the
significance of somatics innervous system regulation and
the healing process?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I think it's one of the most important parts.
I think it's one of the mostimportant parts and I think it's
very nuanced as well becausethere's, I believe, that so much
of our healing is getting backto the knowing that we are
already whole and we're safe.
So we are safe to you know,connect in this moment.
And so much of my ownabandonment issues from when I
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was younger really was like I'mnot safe, like I'm going to be
abandoned, so I'm going to die,essentially Like that's a very
deep rooted, just survivalmechanism that we have as humans
.
When I started to connect thebody piece into it by getting
into practices that brought meout of that trauma response,
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that fight or flight or thefreezer fun brought me out of
the sympathetic nervous systeminto the parasympathetic nervous
system, into this rest anddigest mode, into a place that
reminds my body that I'm safe.
Because I know, with my ownspiritual practices, the
connection that I havespiritually is so connected to
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am I being present here in thismoment.
And I really know that wecannot be present if we're
constantly in a heightenednervous system, if we're
constantly feeling unsafe.
It's literally impossible forus to feel present.
So, using the nervous systemregulation tools that we have is
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so vital to connecting to thisnumber one, like knowing that
you're safe, and also likeexpanding you into a life that
you want to be living, a life ofjoy, a life, like I said.
I think all of these tools arereally bringing us back to
presence, so, like, can we getpresent in the here and now?
Can we respond to somethingright here, right now, rather
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than respond from a past mindset?
Right, can we respond to what'shappening right here, right now
, like when I'm having thisconversation with you, in a way
that's not so rooted in, likewhat my mother said that hurt me
20 years ago.
So true, and I know that, withthe body keeping the score, when
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I get into these heightenednervous system states from
interacting in the world, it'sreally my responsibility to say
like, okay, like, how can I getback to this, knowing that I'm
safe?
How can I get back to this,knowing that I'm safe?
How can I get back to this,knowing that it's okay also to
like be heightened at times, Ithink, with nervous system
regulation work.
(15:15):
I absolutely love that it'sbecoming more widespread and I
also feel a lot of the timeswe'll get into this idea that
you have to be calm all the time, and I am like someone who's
very guilty of likeover-regulating, like getting
myself out of my life byover-regulating and by like
thinking, like, oh, like, if I'mfeeling a heart palpitation, I
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have to stop and go use a tool.
Wow, and now I'm like okay, howcan I live in my life, have
like this expansion of capacityto experience what's going on in
my day-to-day life, use thetools of nervous system
regulation wherever I can, andalso know that, like, so much of
this purpose is like how do Irespond in my day-to-day life
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without overusing the tools aswell?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, I really liked that you you mentioned a lot
about being safe and also aboutthat it's okay to feel your
feelings, it's okay to feelwithin your body, and it sounds
like for you, balance is superimportant.
Like we may, and I feel like,even as spiritual practitioners,
we swing so far to, oh, I'vegot to do this in the light and
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use these tools, and then weswing back over to we're not
present.
So how do you?
It sounds like being balancedis super important to you and
how do you manage that when youknow that you're feeling the
pendulum swing back and forth?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, I love this, and balance is a really big word
that's been coming up latelyand I am horrible at balance.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Aren't we all, so please teach us I don't be the
first to admit.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
We try so hard, we try so hard and I will be the
first to admit that like it'shard to find balance and I think
that, yeah, I think that somuch of this human experience is
that contrast, is feeling allthe feelings, feeling this whole
range of spectrum, and I thinkthat's the thing that I think is
.
And really I mean what you justmentioned of like how can I
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allow myself to feel?
Whatever is coming up sort offeels like balance to me,
because it's like saying likeokay, if I let myself go into
the deep sadness, if I letmyself go into the anger, if I
let myself go to these places, Iwill also let myself experience
, like, the joy that this worldhas to offer.
I'll let myself experience thebeauty of the world rather than
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just the horrible things thatare going on, and balance is
something that I look to strivefor.
But I feel like I'm like alwayslike all right, we, the
pendulum swings and I'm just howcan I really, like I said,
expand my capacity to say likeokay, when this is going on, let
me really connect to myself ina way that's going to help me be
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present.
So constantly bringing myselfback into the present moment has
been the way that balance islike the most attainable for me.
But, like I said, I'm alsohorrible at it.
I think I think that it's anever evolving journey.
We're never really in balance isa really big like thing that I
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would love to experience in mylife and also know that like
it's okay if I'm not feelingbalanced.
You know, sort of acceptingwhat is feels like balance to me
, like accepting the emotions,accepting what is and also
recognizing like where is mypersonal responsibility, Like
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really connecting to what do Ihave, what is my responsibility
and what's not, yeah, and thatbrings me more into balance.
So I'm not kind of going allover the place trying to search
or trying to control things Ican't control.
Over the place, trying tosearch or trying to control
things I can't control.
So I think coming back home towhat is my responsibility and
what's not, and how can I takeradical responsibility, is, like
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, my best key tip for navigatingbalance, for sure, and I also
think, a gentle, like beinggentle with yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
you know, I think sometimes we get so fixated on
our spiritual journey and ourspiritual path and where we are,
and it's like sometimes we justneed to maybe, maybe take a
pivot and maybe maybe just siton the bench for a minute you
know, and then just it's okayyeah.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I think that it's so important that you mentioned
that, because I was someone youyou know, even with these ideas
of like connecting with yourhigher self and expanding into
that ideas.
I absolutely love like I do alot of that in my work, but I
was kind of like pedestalizingthe higher self as this version
of me.
That was better and I was, yeah, and I was like trying to like
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meet the standard of my higherself.
I was, you know, I was tryingto like achieve what I thought
the life that my higher selfwould be living was, and I kept
falling short because it wasthis impossible standard I was
making for myself.
So, like sometimes we just gotto like go sit on the bench,
like be here now, and I think alot of the times we'll get like
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obsessed with like oh, am Iliving my life in alignment in
the perfect way?
When really like it's not aboutperfection at all.
It's really like how can I takelike one messy step, one messy
action forward and like givemyself so much grace in this
process?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
That's such a that's such a good point and I really
like that.
You kind of brought up yourhigher self and it's you're
right, it's almost as idolized,it is an idolized version of
ourselves.
And where are we beingauthentic in this process to our
true selves, you know, whiletrying to achieve this higher
self essence?
So, and that is a struggle and Ican be, I can feel the tug of
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war, and sometimes it's likeagain, we are a soul having a
human experience and how are wehonoring our human experience by
trying to be our higher self?
Like it's an interesting.
So you're bringing up a lot ofvery good, valid points.
Today I'm like, hmm, reminderto self, but it's a good point
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because I know for even formyself, like struggling, like
okay, bring in your higher selfand make sure to connect and
make sure to do this and makesure to be centered.
And it's like, well, why don'tyou just be, you know, why don't
you just chill?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I know, and that's why, that's why I feel like the
balance of it is so hard,because we can, you know, I
think I know personally, when Iconnect in meditation just like
10 minutes, if I'm connectingconsistently I feel better, but
if I'm saying, if I didn'tmeditate today, there's
something bad.
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That's where we get into like alittle bit of sticky you know,
sticky situations.
I'm like how do I hold thenuance that showing up for
myself consistently feels reallygood and I feel really like
settled in my body and it reallyis helpful, without getting
into that perfectionism or likethe like if I don't do it then
I'm bad, sort of thing andyou're very authentic with you,
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know how you are, which I wouldimagine that translate to like
your membership groups and liketo how you.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
you know your coach or clients and I know one of the
things that you do is you havea mentorship method that's
designed to help anyone heal,you know, regardless of their
past.
Can you maybe describe some ofthese methods and how they
differ for maybe sometraditional healing practices?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, for sure, and I think I mean authenticity is
really one of my big values,because I lived a life like that
was really inauthentic.
You know I lied all the time.
So I like to approach it aslike, come as you are, like I'm
like this is a safe space foryou, like I definitely know the
importance of creating safespaces.
I also know the importance ofbeing trauma informed of, like
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not going too much too fast,like that's really what I
believe trauma is is too muchtoo fast where you're not having
the capacity, and I've been inspaces where they went too much
too fast and they weren't awareof what impact that was having.
So I'm definitely mindful ofthat in my spaces.
But I take a multi-dimensionalapproach because I know that
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there's so many differentelements.
I also know there's so manydifferent modalities, so many
different practices.
I know, like, in certain partsof my life, really like
connecting with somatowork andmy body is really, really
important for me in that moment.
And then I also know thatthere's other parts, when I'm
connecting in the Akashicrecords, which is very much like
taking a higher spiritualperspective rather than like the
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nitty-gritties of human life,like some points, that's really
important for me.
So I'm like, how do we approachthis from a holistic level
rather than one size fits all?
Yeah, and I, you know, I've hadthe privilege of doing this
work for, like I said, almost 15years now, where I've dove into
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so many different modalities.
I've seen what works, I've seenwhat doesn't.
Yeah, I'm definitely aspiritual seeker in that way,
and I know that there's up anddowns of the human journey.
So I'm going to be someone whosits with you in the ups and
sits with you in the downs.
I think a lot of the times we'reafraid to show those parts of
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ourselves.
We're afraid to show up whenwe're down.
We're afraid to show up in ourshame.
We're afraid to show up whenwe're down.
We're afraid to show up in ourshame.
We're afraid to show up in oursadness.
We're afraid to show up in allof it.
So the tools that I have isnumber one how do we honor
whatever is going on right nowand then?
We have to honor it first andthen we can work on shifting it
if you feel called to shift it.
I found that honoring it andletting it be as it is is like
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the key piece in shifting what'shappening.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, absolutely.
It's almost like once youuncover that layer, I feel like
energies will align to help youshift and heal it.
You know, and it's kind of likeyou and I are very similar in
the fact that you know we wehave a lot of healing modalities
that we're trained at, butyou're going to bring what's
best for that client in thatmoment, and it may be the
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records, it could be moving yourbody, it could be quantum
healing, it's like.
But you know intuitively whatto bring to them and they'll
meet you, you know what, withwhat they need as well, and I
like that meet you, you knowwhat, with what they need as
well, and I like that it soundsvery intuitively driven your
programs.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, and I love the way that you just said this too,
because I believe that theperson who I'm working with
they're the one who has theanswers with themselves.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
They just bring the you just, you just uncover the
light Like you know they healthemselves and they empower
themselves.
And I and I, and I I reallyappreciate that you bring that
up as well, because I thinksometimes it's like, well, I'm
up on this pedestal because I'mthe healer, no, we're all in the
same playing field here, guys,and I'm going to get, I'm going
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to help you, but ultimatelyyou're going to choose to heal
yourself because some people,they're good, they don't, they
don't need that.
You know what I mean.
It's like on my journey.
I'm fine and I'll come back toyou in 10 years when I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, completely yeah , and I think that that's like
another core piece, like I feellike I want to show up
authentically, to like let elsealso know.
Like I'm not perfect, please donot put me on a pedestal.
I am your guru, like you are theone who gets to have
responsibility for your life, soI can, like you know, guide
with the tools that we have, butI know it's it's really all you
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.
And like, when people thank me,like I'm always like I received
that, thank you so much.
And also like, please thankyourself in this as well I
received that, thank you so much.
And also like, please, thankyourself in this as well, where
you were the biggest part ofthis equation and I know what
it's like to get onto thespiritual path and put people on
pedestals.
I like to think that they knowme, that they're more present,
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they're more aligned with theirhigher self than me and I'm and
I know that using the tools thatI've had have helped me get to
the spot.
That it's like I am you and youare me, like we are really like
all this, like collectiveconnection, like we are all one
Absolutely and we're reallyrooted in that.
I think that we can have waybigger of an impact on the
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people that we work with, thepeople who hold space for, yeah,
knowing like we are, like yousaid, we're on the same level.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, and we're all like I feel like we're
collective consciousness, likewe're all here together for one
purpose, you know, and it's it'sinteresting to see how that
falls out.
And I do think that sometimeswe do have a tendency and I know
I'm guilty of it myself whereI'm like, well, I read the
records, but why, why am I notpsychic?
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Like it's just like you knowwhat I mean.
It's like you get that, compareitis.
And then I have to remindmyself like okay, like let me
honor where I'm at with my gifts, and I respect the fact and I
appreciate the fact that you cando all of that and let's work
together to bring out all ofthis knowledge and wisdom, like,
and I, it's like we can be inawe of each other, like not in
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awe of, well, that person.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Mm-hmm.
I love this point too, becauseso much of what I want to like
convey to people is like we allhave a special, unique gift
within us.
Yes, like, yes like you know,when I like help people in
reading their own records, I'mlike it might look completely
different than the way that Iread records amen yeah, like,
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and I and I'm like, and neitherof those things is wrong, like.
I remember believing I wasn'tpsychic because I didn't connect
with the other side in the waythat I saw mediums and psychics
do and I like really had anexperience in the records where
they were like that is not yourpurpose here.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I love that.
I love that you had thatexperience.
I really do, because I do thinkwe get, we shame ourselves.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
It's like, well, you and yes, I love that you had
that experience, yeah, I mean,and it really was life-changing
for me, wow, I can feel it.
I can feel it.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It's like yes, Because you're right, it's not
part of your purpose.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
No, it's not.
It's part of, like I know, alot of really gifted mediums and
psychics.
I definitely believe I havepsychic energy as well and it
looks completely different andlike I have a lot of clients
that are psychics and I'm likeit's so cool that you come to me
for the record.
You would think that like okay,if they have the like, the gift
of clairvoyance or whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But it's like it's different, it's a different
channel, it's a different threadand and and.
And I'm sorry, aaron, like I'mhijacking your interview, but
it's like what you're saying isresonating with me so much as a
cause.
I'm also an Akashic recordreader and it's very much like
I've had the same challenges andsame with my friends, mediums
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and this and that and.
But I've it's like, it's okay,I'll be like be like listen, if
you want to take a grandma,here's my friend, here's my pal.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
But if you want to know your soul's purpose, let's
go.
I know, yeah, and it's.
It's such a beautiful likeinterwoven web.
Yes, because I I know thatwe're all here.
We all decided to come here atthis point in time together for
a specific reason, for like thisawakening.
So for all of us to have thesame gifts would be like very
boring, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
It'd be like Rachel in five years.
You're going to.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, it'd be very boring and like, even with that
too, like a lot of the timesI'll like connect in the records
and certain things are not like, I can't see them and I'm like
I know for a fact you are notmeant to know this.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yes, there's a reason why it's not being shown
there's a reason why it's notcoming forward.
You don't need to know thisright now.
It's not meant for you to knowit now, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
And I think, just like you know, like the
butterfly effect, I'm like ifyou knew this right now, you're
going to change, You're going tochange all of it.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I bet you and I have the same spiel in our readings.
I'm like, listen, you couldleave this reading and take a
left when in the records it'sgoing to take a right and
everything has changed.
Yeah, I love that, I love that.
That's so true.
And I think you you also bringup a point of you're not going
to, you're not going to make upor embellish things in a reading
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just so somebody can get ananswer, and that's okay.
It may not be the time for youto reveal that answer, it may
not be time for you to know andbe okay with delivering that
message.
And I think sometimes, as ahealer and as a reader, people
do get hung up on that.
Well, I better tell themsomething.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, yeah.
And I think that's when, likecoming back to, like just
holding space for someone andsafe space is more transfer,
more like transformative thananything.
So I've had to come back tothat time and time again,
especially as, like a healer andreader, it's like you want them
to have the best experience.
You want to heal everything inthis world.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Do it now.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, you put so much pressure on yourself and I
always have to come back home tothe knowing.
Like me, just showing up andbeing here and present with them
is transformative enough.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Absolutely, and sometimes just sitting in the
energy is all that they need.
You know, you may not even haveit, doesn't even matter what
you've said and what you'vecommunicated, it's just the
energy that's being transmittedand the channel to them.
Sometimes that's all that theyneed.
So, before I wrap up thisamazing interview, where is the
best place for somebody to go tothat want to learn more about
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you?
I know you have a podcast.
You have.
You have a lot of offerings.
Where's the best place for themto go to?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, I definitely go to my Instagram, so that's at
Aaron Panzarella.
My website is also AaronPanzarellacom.
I do have a free Facebook groupwhere I'll do free Akashic
records readings and like youcan just like, come, have a safe
space for your to hang.
So that's spiritually embodiedlightworkers on Facebook and
those are like the places reallyto find me.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I love it.
So for our last question.
So, based on your extensiveexperience and challenges that
you've overcome, what?
What is one piece of advicethat you would offer to our
listeners who, maybe, areseeking to heal and transform
their lives?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, love this question.
Um, I mean, the words literallyjust came in like keep going.
Um, I know right now energy isvery heightened, um, and I feel
very, very certain that you havethe capacity to handle whatever
energy is coming up.
And, as I shared before, we allcame here right here at this
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time.
I believe we chose to be heretogether right here, right now.
So, if there's any doubt thatyou have, my message to you is
like keep going.
Like, if you are tired, restand then keep going Like really
the world needs your gifts rightnow.
They need your light, and it isnot doing the world any favors
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for you to like hide, for you todoubt yourself.
So keep going, do it messy andreally like.
The world needs your magic andyour gifts amen.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Thank you so much, erin, for coming to the
spiritual spotlight series.
It's truly been amazing tospeak with you today.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Thank you so much thank you for having me.
Hello everyone, Welcome to our Spiritual
Spotlight Series.
Today I am joined by ErinPantabella.
I love saying her last name,it's super fun.
She is a spiritual mentor andquantum healer.
Thank you so much for coming tothe Spiritual Spotlight Series.
I'm so happy you're here.
I'm so happy to be here.
So we're just going to jumpright in, Erin, and your journey
is both inspiring andtransformational.
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Can you maybe start by sharinga bit about your background and
how your experience as anadopted child have shaped your
spiritual path?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, for sure.
So we'll start at the beginning.
Like you said, I'm adopted andalso 11 days before my fifth
birthday my dad passed away.
So I would say that this likecore wound sort of developed
from both, you know, beingadopted and my dad passing away
so young.
So this fear, I would say, ofabandonment was really really
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big in my life.
So, of course, you know, I wasvery young so I didn't really
understand this and I was soconvinced subconsciously that I
was broken that everyone wasgoing to leave me.
And it really impacted the waythat I showed up in my
day-to-day life throughchildhood, through preteen
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teenage and early adulthood.
So I went down a pretty darkpath for many years because I
really was trying to fix myself.
I thought I was broken but Ididn't realize how big of an
impact the grief that I had wasreally like weighing on me and I
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think, being adopted and alsolosing my dad so young.
A lot of people don't reallyknow how to approach that
subject.
So even I was one of the onlyadopted people that I knew and I
feel like everyone didn't knowhow to approach the topic of
adoption and then when my dadpassed away, no one spoke about
death.
So there was these thingscoming up within me that I felt
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like I couldn't talk about withpeople, up within me that I felt
like I couldn't talk about withpeople and I had a lot of, I
would say, repressed sadness,grief, anger, whatever it was,
that kept bubbling up to thesurface and I really didn't know
how to manage it.
So, like I said, I kind of feltlike I was broken.
I felt like I was verydifferent.
I felt like I was weird and inmy first year of college I tried
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out for a sorority and I reallydidn't want to do it but
everyone was doing it and thiswhole group of you know girls,
women rejected me and that sortof experience really brought
that core wound that I'm brokenand I'm different up to the
surface to a point where I couldnot ignore it anymore.
So I really started to fallinto like a deep depression.
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I had a lot of anxiety and mymom, who had been a Reiki master
healer for many years some ofthe things that she was doing I
was so resistant to.
You know, I thought my mom wasdoing this weird stuff.
You know, friends would comeover when I was younger and I'd
be like they're like, what isyour mom doing in the basement?
I was like I don't know, shedoes this weird things.
But some of the modalities thatshe started to use, I became
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really open to using thembecause I was so desperate to
feel better.
I just knew that the way that Iwas living my life, I was not
going to be here much longer ifI continue down that path.
And I definitely know that somuch of my own spiritual healing
journey has been connectingwith those core wounds,
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connecting with like what impactbeing adopted had, what impact
losing my dad so young, had.
And really the thread that mymom sort of planted with
spiritual healing journey is onethat I've been on now for like
almost 15 years at this pointand it has been, you know, so
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transformational.
But that's really what led meto the journey for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I love that.
So what was it about your firstexperience, you know, with a
Reiki healer probably your momthat resonates with deeply and
inspired you to need to pursuemore of a career in spiritual
healing.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, I love this question I'm going to share,
actually, one that's not relatedto my mom.
So when I was so, when I wasyounger, though, I would have
really horrible menstrual crampsand that was the only time I
would let my mom do Reiki on me,because I was like in so much
pain.
So she would be like, let me doReiki, and I was like, okay,
okay, fine, and it did help.
(04:32):
So there was this little likeinkling of like okay, whatever
she's doing, like sort of works,like whatever it is.
I don't get it, it's weird, butsomething works.
But I feel like so much of thebeginning of my own spiritual
healing journey was connectingto spirituality aside from my
mom, like without her, because Ireally needed to explore it on
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my own.
Now we have so manyconversations about it, but
really in the beginning it waslike, okay, let me do everything
I can like without her.
So I went to a Reiki healingcircle at a yoga studio like
near.
My friends were like, hey, youwant to go to this Reiki circle?
And I was like, yeah, sure, itwas the first time I was ever in
a Reiki circle and I just saw,you know, going with some
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friends to a yoga studio.
I didn't really have an idea ofwhat was going to transpire
there and that Reiki healingcircle was one of the most
transformational healings I'veever received in my life.
I essentially had sort offlashbacks of past lives.
I connected with Christconsciousness for the first time
(05:37):
where, like, jesus came intothis Reiki healing circle and I
grew up Jewish, so I really hadno connection.
Yeah, I really was like what isJesus doing here?
But I really had this hugeawakening in that experience
that was so monumental becauseprior to that Reiki healing
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circle, because of my ownabandonment wounds, because of
the way I was navigating,because of fear of people
leaving me, I had a reallyanimate wounds.
Because of the way I wasnavigating, because of fear,
people leaving me, I had areally big pattern of lying.
I would like hide.
I was so afraid to like showpeople my authentic self.
I was like living in secret andso many things.
I had so much shame and afterthis Reiki healing circle I have
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like no desire to show up, likein that lying, in that secrecy,
and it was something that wassuch a big healing within me
that I was completelytransformed after that one
circle and I was like after thatit was kind of like, okay, I'm
sold, like let's dive in towhatever we can here.
But in that Reiki healing Ifelt unconditional love like I
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had never felt before before.
I had seen past lives whereenergy was getting like pulled
out of my body, this like darkenergy that I'd held on for so
long, and I saw this allhappening.
I never had experiencing likeexperience like that before that
.
It really was sotransformational for me.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I love that.
That sounds so amazing.
So one of the things thatyou've mentioned is that you
don't need to know your lineageor your heritage to heal.
Can you maybe elaborate on thisand explain how someone can
begin their healing journeywithout this knowledge?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, I love this question.
So, even like, even with thisexperience, like in this Reiki
healing, so much healinghappened to me, but I didn't
really consciously know what Iwas healing.
So there was a lot of thingsthat came up, like I said, with
a past life, like I had no ideaabout any of that.
That was the first time I everexperienced it and when I was in
this Reiki circle I was so opento receive this, like knowing
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of my own innate wholeness.
I really believe that's whathealing is, that something
transformed within me that Ididn't need to consciously know.
And I feel a lot of the timeson my own healing journey, you
know I would connect withdifferent teachers and I would
find they were like, okay,connect with your inner child.
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But I was someone who barelyhad any memories of who I was
before my dad died.
You know I had a lot of thingsblocked out from traumatic
experiences in my childhood thatI didn't have conscious
memories of, like what thejoyful inner child was.
Yeah, I didn't have consciousmemories of what happened when I
was adopted.
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Like I know that somethinghappened, like energetically,
but I don't remember the momentI was born and then being pulled
from like the birth mother.
Yeah, really, my work was likehow do we work with the energy
of it?
How do you work with thesubconscious, who, I mean, I
believe, has the memories evenif we don't have to consciously
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remember it?
And I really decided to diveinto how can we, instead of like
getting obsessed with talkingabout the past or obsessed with,
like trying to figure out theroot cause, in a way that just
like talking it out, I was likehow can we get to the energy
underneath, how can we get tothe beliefs that are existing
(08:59):
without necessarily needing torecall the memories there?
And that work has been soamazing.
It's been hard.
I definitely, as I started toheal, I started to recall more
memories and I'm someone whobelieves that number one, you
don't have to remembereverything, like I'm definitely
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living proof.
To do big healing, you don'thave to remember things.
And also, when it's relevantfor our own healing, in the
moment, the memory will surfaceAbsolutely.
So I really started to takethis, you know this, knowing
that just because he doesn't, Ican't remember, it doesn't mean
I can't heal it.
It doesn't mean that I'm broken.
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This like running theme of likethinking I'm broken, like no,
there's just.
There's nothing wrong with me.
My body is doing what it needsto.
My brain is doing what it needsto to protect me.
And if I'm meant to recallsomething, I will.
And so many memories have comeup to the surface for me to
explore.
But I started this work withoutremembering anything, like I
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really had absolutely no memoryof so much of my childhood
preteen.
Like my friends used to joke,it's like someone took an eraser
to my brain.
It really was like sointeresting.
I was like why is my braindoing that?
Out of curiosity.
But I realized that I couldn'tjust go surface level with my
healing.
I had to go do that energeticand the subconscious underneath
it.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I think I love how you just answered that, because
it brings up such a valuablepoint that you don't have to go
and rehash every single traumaand every single memory in order
to be able to heal.
You know the energy will go towhere it needs to go.
It will release what needs tobe released when it's ready to
go, like I.
Just I resonate that so much asbeing an energy healer, which
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I'm sure you are as well.
You are as well.
It's just we don't have to knoweverything.
You just got to get in and dothe work and you don't.
It's like I.
But I feel like sometimes weget stuck on.
Well, what happened when youwere four?
What does it matter?
What happened when I was four?
Like, I'm ready to heal,girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I know and I was someone I like you know I did
try I get.
I got tripped up by it.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Like I think I did as well, for sure, and how I
explaining how it works too.
It just does.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It just does yeah, completely and even just um.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
There's so many things like I'm not sure if you
heard of like the body keepsscore.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So just so many elements ofthat deeply resonated with me,
cause I was like, even if Ican't remember, my body
remembers.
How can I connect with my bodyin a way that's helping me
release the energy here,somatically, like through breath
work, whatever modality,through energy healing, whatever
modality is really mostresonating for you in this
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moment?
But connecting to movementpieces with my body and getting
into the body and even a reallybig opening into this work was
yoga for me.
And I realized like, oh my God,when I do a hip opener, I start
to like release all theseemotions that I have no idea
where they're coming from.
So I did have to also likereally get this connection with
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my body and like being presentwith the body in order to
release things.
And, like I said that you don'thave to remember what you're
releasing.
You know that you're releasingwhen you start doing a hip
opener and you're hystericallycrying for no reason.
When you're like connecting andlike dancing to a song and you
can like feel emotions of it,you know that something's moving
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through your body when you'reengaging in those practices.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Absolutely, and you kind of bring up.
A really valuable point is thatcan you explain the
significance of somatics innervous system regulation and
the healing process?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I think it's one of the most important parts.
I think it's one of the mostimportant parts and I think it's
very nuanced as well becausethere's, I believe, that so much
of our healing is getting backto the knowing that we are
already whole and we're safe.
So we are safe to you know,connect in this moment.
And so much of my ownabandonment issues from when I
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was younger really was like I'mnot safe, like I'm going to be
abandoned, so I'm going to die,essentially Like that's a very
deep rooted, just survivalmechanism that we have as humans
.
When I started to connect thebody piece into it by getting
into practices that brought meout of that trauma response,
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that fight or flight or thefreezer fun brought me out of
the sympathetic nervous systeminto the parasympathetic nervous
system, into this rest anddigest mode, into a place that
reminds my body that I'm safe.
Because I know, with my ownspiritual practices, the
connection that I havespiritually is so connected to
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am I being present here in thismoment.
And I really know that wecannot be present if we're
constantly in a heightenednervous system, if we're
constantly feeling unsafe.
It's literally impossible forus to feel present.
So, using the nervous systemregulation tools that we have is
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so vital to connecting to thisnumber one, like knowing that
you're safe, and also likeexpanding you into a life that
you want to be living, a life ofjoy, a life, like I said.
I think all of these tools arereally bringing us back to
presence, so, like, can we getpresent in the here and now?
Can we respond to somethingright here, right now, rather
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than respond from a past mindset?
Right, can we respond to what'shappening right here, right now
, like when I'm having thisconversation with you, in a way
that's not so rooted in, likewhat my mother said that hurt me
20 years ago.
So true, and I know that, withthe body keeping the score, when
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I get into these heightenednervous system states from
interacting in the world, it'sreally my responsibility to say
like, okay, like, how can I getback to this, knowing that I'm
safe?
How can I get back to this,knowing that I'm safe?
How can I get back to this,knowing that it's okay also to
like be heightened at times, Ithink, with nervous system
regulation work.
(15:15):
I absolutely love that it'sbecoming more widespread and I
also feel a lot of the timeswe'll get into this idea that
you have to be calm all the time, and I am like someone who's
very guilty of likeover-regulating, like getting
myself out of my life byover-regulating and by like
thinking, like, oh, like, if I'mfeeling a heart palpitation, I
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have to stop and go use a tool.
Wow, and now I'm like okay, howcan I live in my life, have
like this expansion of capacityto experience what's going on in
my day-to-day life, use thetools of nervous system
regulation wherever I can, andalso know that, like, so much of
this purpose is like how do Irespond in my day-to-day life
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without overusing the tools aswell?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, I really liked that you you mentioned a lot
about being safe and also aboutthat it's okay to feel your
feelings, it's okay to feelwithin your body, and it sounds
like for you, balance is superimportant.
Like we may, and I feel like,even as spiritual practitioners,
we swing so far to, oh, I'vegot to do this in the light and
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use these tools, and then weswing back over to we're not
present.
So how do you?
It sounds like being balancedis super important to you and
how do you manage that when youknow that you're feeling the
pendulum swing back and forth?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, I love this, and balance is a really big word
that's been coming up latelyand I am horrible at balance.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Aren't we all, so please teach us I don't be the
first to admit.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
We try so hard, we try so hard and I will be the
first to admit that like it'shard to find balance and I think
that, yeah, I think that somuch of this human experience is
that contrast, is feeling allthe feelings, feeling this whole
range of spectrum, and I thinkthat's the thing that I think is
.
And really I mean what you justmentioned of like how can I
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allow myself to feel?
Whatever is coming up sort offeels like balance to me,
because it's like saying likeokay, if I let myself go into
the deep sadness, if I letmyself go into the anger, if I
let myself go to these places, Iwill also let myself experience
, like, the joy that this worldhas to offer.
I'll let myself experience thebeauty of the world rather than
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just the horrible things thatare going on, and balance is
something that I look to strivefor.
But I feel like I'm like alwayslike all right, we, the
pendulum swings and I'm just howcan I really, like I said,
expand my capacity to say likeokay, when this is going on, let
me really connect to myself ina way that's going to help me be
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present.
So constantly bringing myselfback into the present moment has
been the way that balance islike the most attainable for me.
But, like I said, I'm alsohorrible at it.
I think I think that it's anever evolving journey.
We're never really in balance isa really big like thing that I
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would love to experience in mylife and also know that like
it's okay if I'm not feelingbalanced.
You know, sort of acceptingwhat is feels like balance to me
, like accepting the emotions,accepting what is and also
recognizing like where is mypersonal responsibility, Like
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really connecting to what do Ihave, what is my responsibility
and what's not, yeah, and thatbrings me more into balance.
So I'm not kind of going allover the place trying to search
or trying to control things Ican't control.
Over the place, trying tosearch or trying to control
things I can't control.
So I think coming back home towhat is my responsibility and
what's not, and how can I takeradical responsibility, is, like
(18:59):
, my best key tip for navigatingbalance, for sure, and I also
think, a gentle, like beinggentle with yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
you know, I think sometimes we get so fixated on
our spiritual journey and ourspiritual path and where we are,
and it's like sometimes we justneed to maybe, maybe take a
pivot and maybe maybe just siton the bench for a minute you
know, and then just it's okayyeah.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I think that it's so important that you mentioned
that, because I was someone youyou know, even with these ideas
of like connecting with yourhigher self and expanding into
that ideas.
I absolutely love like I do alot of that in my work, but I
was kind of like pedestalizingthe higher self as this version
of me.
That was better and I was, yeah, and I was like trying to like
(19:50):
meet the standard of my higherself.
I was, you know, I was tryingto like achieve what I thought
the life that my higher selfwould be living was, and I kept
falling short because it wasthis impossible standard I was
making for myself.
So, like sometimes we just gotto like go sit on the bench,
like be here now, and I think alot of the times we'll get like
(20:10):
obsessed with like oh, am Iliving my life in alignment in
the perfect way?
When really like it's not aboutperfection at all.
It's really like how can I takelike one messy step, one messy
action forward and like givemyself so much grace in this
process?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
That's such a that's such a good point and I really
like that.
You kind of brought up yourhigher self and it's you're
right, it's almost as idolized,it is an idolized version of
ourselves.
And where are we beingauthentic in this process to our
true selves, you know, whiletrying to achieve this higher
self essence?
So, and that is a struggle and Ican be, I can feel the tug of
(20:45):
war, and sometimes it's likeagain, we are a soul having a
human experience and how are wehonoring our human experience by
trying to be our higher self?
Like it's an interesting.
So you're bringing up a lot ofvery good, valid points.
Today I'm like, hmm, reminderto self, but it's a good point
(21:06):
because I know for even formyself, like struggling, like
okay, bring in your higher selfand make sure to connect and
make sure to do this and makesure to be centered.
And it's like, well, why don'tyou just be, you know, why don't
you just chill?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I know, and that's why, that's why I feel like the
balance of it is so hard,because we can, you know, I
think I know personally, when Iconnect in meditation just like
10 minutes, if I'm connectingconsistently I feel better, but
if I'm saying, if I didn'tmeditate today, there's
something bad.
(21:42):
That's where we get into like alittle bit of sticky you know,
sticky situations.
I'm like how do I hold thenuance that showing up for
myself consistently feels reallygood and I feel really like
settled in my body and it reallyis helpful, without getting
into that perfectionism or likethe like if I don't do it then
I'm bad, sort of thing andyou're very authentic with you,
(22:13):
know how you are, which I wouldimagine that translate to like
your membership groups and liketo how you.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
you know your coach or clients and I know one of the
things that you do is you havea mentorship method that's
designed to help anyone heal,you know, regardless of their
past.
Can you maybe describe some ofthese methods and how they
differ for maybe sometraditional healing practices?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, for sure, and I think I mean authenticity is
really one of my big values,because I lived a life like that
was really inauthentic.
You know I lied all the time.
So I like to approach it aslike, come as you are, like I'm
like this is a safe space foryou, like I definitely know the
importance of creating safespaces.
I also know the importance ofbeing trauma informed of, like
(22:54):
not going too much too fast,like that's really what I
believe trauma is is too muchtoo fast where you're not having
the capacity, and I've been inspaces where they went too much
too fast and they weren't awareof what impact that was having.
So I'm definitely mindful ofthat in my spaces.
But I take a multi-dimensionalapproach because I know that
(23:18):
there's so many differentelements.
I also know there's so manydifferent modalities, so many
different practices.
I know, like, in certain partsof my life, really like
connecting with somatowork andmy body is really, really
important for me in that moment.
And then I also know thatthere's other parts, when I'm
connecting in the Akashicrecords, which is very much like
taking a higher spiritualperspective rather than like the
(23:41):
nitty-gritties of human life,like some points, that's really
important for me.
So I'm like, how do we approachthis from a holistic level
rather than one size fits all?
Yeah, and I, you know, I've hadthe privilege of doing this
work for, like I said, almost 15years now, where I've dove into
(24:03):
so many different modalities.
I've seen what works, I've seenwhat doesn't.
Yeah, I'm definitely aspiritual seeker in that way,
and I know that there's up anddowns of the human journey.
So I'm going to be someone whosits with you in the ups and
sits with you in the downs.
I think a lot of the times we'reafraid to show those parts of
(24:27):
ourselves.
We're afraid to show up whenwe're down.
We're afraid to show up in ourshame.
We're afraid to show up whenwe're down.
We're afraid to show up in ourshame.
We're afraid to show up in oursadness.
We're afraid to show up in allof it.
So the tools that I have isnumber one how do we honor
whatever is going on right nowand then?
We have to honor it first andthen we can work on shifting it
if you feel called to shift it.
I found that honoring it andletting it be as it is is like
(24:54):
the key piece in shifting what'shappening.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, absolutely.
It's almost like once youuncover that layer, I feel like
energies will align to help youshift and heal it.
You know, and it's kind of likeyou and I are very similar in
the fact that you know we wehave a lot of healing modalities
that we're trained at, butyou're going to bring what's
best for that client in thatmoment, and it may be the
(25:19):
records, it could be moving yourbody, it could be quantum
healing, it's like.
But you know intuitively whatto bring to them and they'll
meet you, you know what, withwhat they need as well, and I
like that meet you, you knowwhat, with what they need as
well, and I like that it soundsvery intuitively driven your
programs.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, and I love the way that you just said this too,
because I believe that theperson who I'm working with
they're the one who has theanswers with themselves.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
They just bring the you just, you just uncover the
light Like you know they healthemselves and they empower
themselves.
And I and I, and I I reallyappreciate that you bring that
up as well, because I thinksometimes it's like, well, I'm
up on this pedestal because I'mthe healer, no, we're all in the
same playing field here, guys,and I'm going to get, I'm going
(26:08):
to help you, but ultimatelyyou're going to choose to heal
yourself because some people,they're good, they don't, they
don't need that.
You know what I mean.
It's like on my journey.
I'm fine and I'll come back toyou in 10 years when I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, completely yeah , and I think that that's like
another core piece, like I feellike I want to show up
authentically, to like let elsealso know.
Like I'm not perfect, please donot put me on a pedestal.
I am your guru, like you are theone who gets to have
responsibility for your life, soI can, like you know, guide
with the tools that we have, butI know it's it's really all you
(26:44):
.
And like, when people thank me,like I'm always like I received
that, thank you so much.
And also like, please thankyourself in this as well I
received that, thank you so much.
And also like, please, thankyourself in this as well, where
you were the biggest part ofthis equation and I know what
it's like to get onto thespiritual path and put people on
pedestals.
I like to think that they knowme, that they're more present,
(27:06):
they're more aligned with theirhigher self than me and I'm and
I know that using the tools thatI've had have helped me get to
the spot.
That it's like I am you and youare me, like we are really like
all this, like collectiveconnection, like we are all one
Absolutely and we're reallyrooted in that.
I think that we can have waybigger of an impact on the
(27:30):
people that we work with, thepeople who hold space for, yeah,
knowing like we are, like yousaid, we're on the same level.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, and we're all like I feel like we're
collective consciousness, likewe're all here together for one
purpose, you know, and it's it'sinteresting to see how that
falls out.
And I do think that sometimeswe do have a tendency and I know
I'm guilty of it myself whereI'm like, well, I read the
records, but why, why am I notpsychic?
(27:58):
Like it's just like you knowwhat I mean.
It's like you get that, compareitis.
And then I have to remindmyself like okay, like let me
honor where I'm at with my gifts, and I respect the fact and I
appreciate the fact that you cando all of that and let's work
together to bring out all ofthis knowledge and wisdom, like,
and I, it's like we can be inawe of each other, like not in
(28:20):
awe of, well, that person.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Mm-hmm.
I love this point too, becauseso much of what I want to like
convey to people is like we allhave a special, unique gift
within us.
Yes, like, yes like you know,when I like help people in
reading their own records, I'mlike it might look completely
different than the way that Iread records amen yeah, like,
(28:48):
and I and I'm like, and neitherof those things is wrong, like.
I remember believing I wasn'tpsychic because I didn't connect
with the other side in the waythat I saw mediums and psychics
do and I like really had anexperience in the records where
they were like that is not yourpurpose here.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I love that.
I love that you had thatexperience.
I really do, because I do thinkwe get, we shame ourselves.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
It's like, well, you and yes, I love that you had
that experience, yeah, I mean,and it really was life-changing
for me, wow, I can feel it.
I can feel it.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It's like yes, Because you're right, it's not
part of your purpose.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
No, it's not.
It's part of, like I know, alot of really gifted mediums and
psychics.
I definitely believe I havepsychic energy as well and it
looks completely different andlike I have a lot of clients
that are psychics and I'm likeit's so cool that you come to me
for the record.
You would think that like okay,if they have the like, the gift
of clairvoyance or whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But it's like it's different, it's a different
channel, it's a different threadand and and.
And I'm sorry, aaron, like I'mhijacking your interview, but
it's like what you're saying isresonating with me so much as a
cause.
I'm also an Akashic recordreader and it's very much like
I've had the same challenges andsame with my friends, mediums
(30:10):
and this and that and.
But I've it's like, it's okay,I'll be like be like listen, if
you want to take a grandma,here's my friend, here's my pal.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
But if you want to know your soul's purpose, let's
go.
I know, yeah, and it's.
It's such a beautiful likeinterwoven web.
Yes, because I I know thatwe're all here.
We all decided to come here atthis point in time together for
a specific reason, for like thisawakening.
So for all of us to have thesame gifts would be like very
boring, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
It'd be like Rachel in five years.
You're going to.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, it'd be very boring and like, even with that
too, like a lot of the timesI'll like connect in the records
and certain things are not like, I can't see them and I'm like
I know for a fact you are notmeant to know this.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yes, there's a reason why it's not being shown
there's a reason why it's notcoming forward.
You don't need to know thisright now.
It's not meant for you to knowit now, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
And I think, just like you know, like the
butterfly effect, I'm like ifyou knew this right now, you're
going to change, You're going tochange all of it.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I bet you and I have the same spiel in our readings.
I'm like, listen, you couldleave this reading and take a
left when in the records it'sgoing to take a right and
everything has changed.
Yeah, I love that, I love that.
That's so true.
And I think you you also bringup a point of you're not going
to, you're not going to make upor embellish things in a reading
(31:45):
just so somebody can get ananswer, and that's okay.
It may not be the time for youto reveal that answer, it may
not be time for you to know andbe okay with delivering that
message.
And I think sometimes, as ahealer and as a reader, people
do get hung up on that.
Well, I better tell themsomething.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, yeah.
And I think that's when, likecoming back to, like just
holding space for someone andsafe space is more transfer,
more like transformative thananything.
So I've had to come back tothat time and time again,
especially as, like a healer andreader, it's like you want them
to have the best experience.
You want to heal everything inthis world.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Do it now.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, you put so much pressure on yourself and I
always have to come back home tothe knowing.
Like me, just showing up andbeing here and present with them
is transformative enough.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Absolutely, and sometimes just sitting in the
energy is all that they need.
You know, you may not even haveit, doesn't even matter what
you've said and what you'vecommunicated, it's just the
energy that's being transmittedand the channel to them.
Sometimes that's all that theyneed.
So, before I wrap up thisamazing interview, where is the
best place for somebody to go tothat want to learn more about
(33:00):
you?
I know you have a podcast.
You have.
You have a lot of offerings.
Where's the best place for themto go to?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, I definitely go to my Instagram, so that's at
Aaron Panzarella.
My website is also AaronPanzarellacom.
I do have a free Facebook groupwhere I'll do free Akashic
records readings and like youcan just like, come, have a safe
space for your to hang.
So that's spiritually embodiedlightworkers on Facebook and
those are like the places reallyto find me.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I love it.
So for our last question.
So, based on your extensiveexperience and challenges that
you've overcome, what?
What is one piece of advicethat you would offer to our
listeners who, maybe, areseeking to heal and transform
their lives?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, love this question.
Um, I mean, the words literallyjust came in like keep going.
Um, I know right now energy isvery heightened, um, and I feel
very, very certain that you havethe capacity to handle whatever
energy is coming up.
And, as I shared before, we allcame here right here at this
(34:02):
time.
I believe we chose to be heretogether right here, right now.
So, if there's any doubt thatyou have, my message to you is
like keep going.
Like, if you are tired, restand then keep going Like really
the world needs your gifts rightnow.
They need your light, and it isnot doing the world any favors
(34:24):
for you to like hide, for you todoubt yourself.
So keep going, do it messy andreally like.
The world needs your magic andyour gifts amen.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Thank you so much, erin, for coming to the
spiritual spotlight series.
It's truly been amazing tospeak with you today.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Thank you so much thank you for having me.
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