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July 21, 2025 55 mins

Link To YouTube Episode On 4Collectors


Join Brett McGrath of  @stackingslabs  for a special hour-long Hobby Palooza livestream as he welcomes a true hobby thought leader — Chris McGill, co-founder of Card Ladder and the voice behind the  @chris_hoj  YouTube channel.This episode dives deep into one of the most important conversations in the sports card world today: how to bridge the gap between vintage and ultra modern collectors. With Brett’s passion for modern collecting and Chris’s extensive knowledge across eras, this dialogue hits at the heart of hobby culture — appreciation, evolution, and connection.🔹 Why the divide exists between vintage and ultra modern🔹 How each side can learn from the other🔹 The role of storytelling, data, and emotion in collecting🔹 Hobby trends and where the market might be headedWhether you love cracked ice or cardboard with creases, this is a can't-miss conversation for anyone who truly cares about the hobby.-

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