Sports Here, There, & Everywhere w/ Dick Jerardi & Mike Kern -- 8/5/23

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of course, starting off early today. Dick Girardi joining us along with Mike
Kern, also Kyle Namaker. Myname is John Jansen. I hate to
say, no standing ovation for mewhen I came into Parks today didn't.
Yeah, I'm probably hitting worse thanthat, so I'm probably Kyle Schwarber.

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So I did get attacks from Mike. I think it was after one of
the Pirates games, maybe over theweekend last weekend. I know I run
the half you said, Yeah,you said they're starting to irritate me.
Oh, yes, starting, Andthat was right, And that was before
the rest of it happened. Thefiasco in Florida. Uh that they should

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have won all four down there.They did win a couple of maybe they
maybe they shouldn't have, but theypulled him out. Then last night was
kind of pathetic on the game atPittsburgh was the worst game they played all
year. So we have that,So we'll let Mike lose in a minute.
You're not gonna be able to staythe whole show, but he's gonna
stay for enough that people will beenough understanding. He's gonna fit two hours

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worth into a one half hour rentright. Mike was a longtime college football
writer at the Philadelphia Daily News,and I just can't wait for him to
rant about conference real college football is. Temple is getting invited to join the
which left in the back ten,and he's kind of think he's I think
he's Caroline. I think it's apackage deal. I like it. The

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Temple, East Carolina's Stanford, calOregon State in Washington State. That's a
good league. I think. I'msure they're gonna be a lot of East
Carolina and Temple fans and gonna goall the way over to Stanford. Works
out. If you told Temple todaythey could be in with Stanford Cal what
they would they would jump at it. Well, you just said they would,

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but again, so what they wouldonly get at some point your fans
in the games, right, Butit's right. At some point though,
Temple is gonna be like, oh, we're gonna Oregon State, Okay,
we gotta play cow. So whatthis was really all about is I have
three states I've never been to.One of them is arguing now you're gonna
get them. They want me togo for Penn stay hoops to of course.

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So with that league, now youmight only play them once every five
good point Big eighteen at the moment, uh starting next year. So we
have that the round about we have. You were you were not happy about
something involving the Sixers. I believeuh McHale bridges the guys that are in
the USA watching the show on ESPNyesterday a basketball the NBA today or whatever.

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Yeah, so I turn on there'shald Burton and mcgel right play whatever,
and then I know that Jalan's alsoon the Josh Hard I think a
right was there. I think fora practice by the way, jail and
congratulations got married to his high schoolsweetheart. Pick for that awesome wedding in

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Chicago. Arch I think was thearch was the best man. He was
doing something there A few they saidhe was officiating. I assume that means
best man was. He was veryheavily involved apparently. So anyway, and
I'm watching this and I'm saying,okay, what is wrong here? These
two guys could be could be sixers correct with the MVP, correct with

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Maxie correct, Um, thank youcould have jail and two made. I
don't know how, I don't know. Yeah, you could have absolutely because
in eighteen, the year Michael cameout, they could have taken jail.
Instead they took the guy from LandryChef. And I'm thinking, and now
going a situation where we're we're tryingto trade a guy didn't Nobody wants to
pay that much money for its correct, And I'm like, it doesn't compute.

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And you know, it's hard toblame any one person since every one
that they put in charge screwed.Right, You're right, it's I mean
from Hanky to Angelo to Brown toElton Brand to the clown that's there now,
it's what a joke of a franchise. And they want to they want
a new arena so let's get anew Let's get a competent GM first,

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and then we'll talk about that.Would that would be health When they hired
and I'm not do I think thatDoc would have done some things better?
Sure, I also think he wasdealing with Ben. He was dealing he
was dealing with some stuff. Okay. When they hired Morey and they hired
Doc, we all basically said,hey, they came on the market.
A. I didn't say beauting.I thought they were both clowns. That's

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fine. The most people seem tothink Doc Rivers had stopped working five years
yea, and Morey was strictly inHouston, which one what exactly nothing.
But the first year Doc was here. They finished with the date they were
number one seed yea, and lostto the Atlanta Braves. The Hawks Game
seven not even a good Atlanta team. Game seven Phillies contemns playoff, Duck

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kicked in and the team struggled.Just pathetic. So the Sixers are pathetic.
Uh the Phillies, Yeah, Iguess they'll get there because the competition
is so bad. Nation competition isbad. But they still, yeah,
they still can't beat the bed ofaverage baseball teams. Yeah, Aaron Knowle
is trying to set a world recordfor most home runs allowed. Either he's

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like the he's like the modern daybaseball he's the modern day baseball position player
in reverse. Yeah, either homeruns are strikeout. Yeah, it's bizarre.
I don't know what's going on withthem. But this isn't the guy
that finished last year and he's goingto get He's gonna get what in the
off season for the four years,he's gonna get a lot of money.
Yeah, he's gonna get paid.Probably not here. No, I think

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look in front, it's course here. I think it'd be best for both
parties. Is just kind of moving. He's still got two moneys. I
mean, if God forbid, hepitches well and they make a God forbid
make a run again, which I'mnot saying they can. I don't think
they are, but I'm not sayingthey can't. Then then they might say,
hey, what are we think ofthis whole Trade Turner? Oh,
getting innovation. That's my first frantbecause I'm gonna feed off of it my

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current go No, I like tradeI'm rooting for Trade Turner. He's here
for ten You well, maybe whoknows but and I understand the fans.
I give him a standing innovation,you know, show him you're sort of
support his charity. Whatever you're gonnado. But I'm sick of the talk
about it. We've been talking fora month now. Maybe he will hit

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the last two months, maybe hewon't. Maybe we should buy him a
second Maybe we should him said,Maybe we should sit him down, Maybe
we should send them to the DollyLama for a week every single And I
understand people. People need things totalk about him talk radio, just like
we need things to talk about Iunderstand the concept, but I'm sick of

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it. I'm sick of Trade Turnerhaving God forbid. He answers the questions,
he tries real hall, he doesthe batting practice to like midnight or
whatever he's doing. Just let itgo. It's gonna you know, he's
gonna have a three hit game someday, and everyways, oh he's out
of it. Well, and it'llgo out for five to next He's suffering
through a horrible season for reasons thatwho the hell knows. I don't know,

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he doesn't know. He's totally,yeah, totally lost. He lost.
It's Castellanos from last year, it'sdoes sitting now. I think he's
worse than casting call. He's worstbecause you paid him more money. But
well, I think Castianos wasn't greatlast year. But Sias is really bad
last ye know, he was bad. He contributed to Trey Turner's losing them
games. He lost them that morn. I think you're forgetting how bad the

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right shielder was last year. Theright shielder was bad. He still hit
two sixty. Yeah, but he'shitting two forty. I mean, give
me the difference between two six.It's it's this and the catcher. The
catcher I think is just getting older. He's still a great catcher, but
he doesn't hit two forty. Yeah. I think the best three hitters on
their team were Boone Stop Well Castellanosuntil last month, I guess. And

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that's basically it Harp no Harper City. He just isn't hitting for power.
Yeah, And maybe this is justwho they are. Maybe maybe I don't
red four months now it's starting well, Yeah, this is this is currently
this team, this season is whatthey are. Like, I think that's
it. Next year it could bedifferent. Next year, Swarber could have
one of his better years, orTurner probably. I'm betting that Turns probably

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gonna have his best year as ofPhilly, probably in year two. But
you know, well, yeah wegot two years. It's going to be
better. But I think for thisyear this is I think, get right.
This is just what they are.It's not a good lineup. It's
a really good starting rotation with agood bullpen. But that's what they have
to rely on because it's not goingto be their line about this. It
never will be. These two thoughts. First of all, the Phillies built
this team to be like a sluggingteam. Then Baseball change the rules,

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pitch clock still we all thought tradeTurners. There's still thirty forty fifty bases.
Well he's not okay, so thatyeah, I don't know how to
show he gets third steal. Idon't know how to pitch clock is messing
with no, I don't know.Whatever think about this. They got Harper
five, this is his fifth season. Now, I know the first couple
of years was still clintach and whateverhave they now? Since they got him?

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They added Schwarber, Wheeler, RiaMalto Castellanos, and I think I'm
leaving one guy out, Turner,Turner. Have they ever been a league?
No, no, no, howmany how many more offensive? He
had great month? Now they've gotthis team's coming back next year, probably
for the moment they might get eladedat some point. This team has never

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been. They won eighty seven gameslast year, throwing pace to win about
eighty seven this year? What amI missing? And you get Harper's fall?
Now ever won an MVP. Healmost won another MVP to Dwayne.
But my god, should this teambe better? But I don't know what
you're sassing either. I'm trying tofigure out what I'm missing, because,
like you said, they added thosebig pieces in the off season, and

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they have young guys from their farmsystem that are hitting the crap out of
the ball. Why can why canthey not collectively put it together? I
feel like they have the recipe,they just can't get it. Got six
All Stars. The right fielder,the left I'm counting Schwarber's and all say
its fifth home runs last year?Yeah, the shortstop, Harper, the
catcher. We were we were,I mean, I mean star Yeah,

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but just even going a little bitfarther those closer was the All Star closer,
even going a little bit farther Jhrmutagot MVP votes last season, Harper's
been an MVP, trade Turner hasbeen close to winning an MVP. These
guys are legitimately MVP candidate type players. They just aren't playing two cy young
runner up. Yeah, and maybethey all just hit Maybe it's complacency.

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I don't know, maybe they justall hit a wall. Maybe the Riesaskins
injury really screwed them up, whichI'm you know, Harper's injury doesn't help,
even though he's batting like two ninetyor whatever he's doing. But my
god, but just can we justleave trade Turner alone? I mean,
really, let the guy we're tryingto be. I think we're trying to
help him, which is which goodfor Phillies fans because we get such a

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bad rep that we're gonna I'm nota booer guy. Yeah, I was
not removed. I look it fromthat aspect. But a boo you're a
ranner. You're a rann The onlytime, really, one of a few
times every boot in my life wasBurt Hooton was on the mountain that bird
are you billing or going? Whoknows? So no, we were.
We booted him off the Mountain andthat was black Fried. But I was
telling losing. I was telling Johnlike, it's good for Phillies, it

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gives him a good rep. ButI feel like there's some delusion involved,
like if we give him a standingovation, he's gonna snap out of it.
This is what he needs. Thereason he's struggling is because he cares
what the fans. The thing likea show supported. I guess great,
it's nothing's gonna help. Nothing's gonnahelp. Guy's not gonna do well this.
Ye, No, I agree withWell, yeah, yeah, he
had an rb I knock last night. He's on the right track. Y.
You know why I had You knowwhy I had an rb I knock

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last night. He was against theworst pitcher in baseball and Jordan Live like
he gave him the worst pitch I'veever seen. You can support him,
do all you want, but don'tit's gonna help him in any whatever I
feel you're gonna Yeah, Well,that's the thing is he should have pulled
that. I mean, because itwas a pitch that was almost a problem
with the Phillies. Let's they allcatch fire, which they did. There's
only one problem now, Well,the problem is they're good. They're just

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not good enough. That's where I'mThat's it's kind of like a basketball team.
Yeah, they're good. I'm notgoing to sit here and say to
six or stink. They won fiftygames that he had, the MVP had,
the assistant. They're better in theregular season than the Phillies. They're
Yeah, they're the opposite of thePhillies. Yeah, I mean that's that's
at least once you get into theplayoffs, you know, the whole thing
in baseball, anything can happen.But the Phillies at least have the top

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end talent that if it does sohappen to get hot at the right time,
they have enough talent to beat thoseteams. But who knows that I
have three or four years from now. Trade Turner is just an average short
stop. He's not bad. Yeah, you're paying him for another five years
after. It makes me wonder whynow we saw Anthony Davis got the three

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years for and again he's not Whydo teams feel compelled to give these guys
because if they didn't give somebody elsehim. Yeah, this is why John.
He gets back to my running back. It's a hot if running backs
are getting short. So what that'sthe markets? The market babies, and
why why um, Taiwan Walker isgetting twenty Now he's having a good year.

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I'll give him that. But atthe time, I thought, why
is Taiwan Why is Taiwan Walker gettingall this money? He's just a guy.
But if you're a pitcher in baseballand you can suppose six innings,
and if you're a running that's whyArenell is gonna make a ton of You're
running back from the market. Theycan replace you. Now, they might

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not replace you. You might notget Sa Kuan for sa Quon. But
and when you have a salary capworld, which the Phillies don't have,
correct, But when you have asalary cap world, rightly or wrongly,
when you give your quarterback this muchmoney, whether we think they should have
given the quarterback that much money ornot. And then the offensive lineman comes
in. He says, well,I'm the guy protecting this guy, and

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that's the problem. And running backsright now as just they're they're the ones
that are not going to get it. And but I worry about trade turners
here for ten Yeah, I meanit's gonna happen with harperd tars Let.
I mean, it's it's the samething that happened to Look at mcgil Cabrera
at the end of his career,MVP, I get it. I think
the Mets was horrible. It wasthe first year Barndoor was just as Tray

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Turner is gonna be the new BobbySee. Now that's that's a good,
good, kind of example of aplayer that was really good. Now,
I think Trade Turner was always betterthan Lindor, but yeah, there's that
possibility that Turner just ends up beingLindor and never quite lives up to it.
I think he's too good, nottoo I think you're gonna get agree.
I think you're gonna get great years. I think you're gonna get MVP
caliber years. But you know,obviously I don't expect it to happen this

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year. Yeah, that's that's that'swhat I keep landing on with all of
these guys. I think Harper,you're never gonna get one hundred percent Harper.
I think, you know, theelbow injury is gonna hold him back
for the entire season. It's justcame back from it fastest look at anybody
to me. Ronald Coulney junior.He had the a c L injured me
last year that he came back fromand now look at him. He's an
envy. I mean he is farand away. He might be the best.

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Well Freeman apparently Freeman's having a reallygood Freeman's having a great year.
Yeah. Um, here's what I'llsay about the Phillies. And I look,
the world can change in a year, right and whatever and the next
the world can change. But Imean three four, next, three four
or five years. Yeah, Imean this is that's what this is.

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Yes, Yeah, And the Bravesain't going anywhere. Braves are better.
The Dodgers are always are better.The Dodgers are going to happen. Well,
I don't know if the Braves havebetter players making less money correct,
which is bigger problems. That's butthat's the that's the luxury of having homegrown
players in the luxury because you havethem for a certain amount of time.
If they signs on the Dodgers,because he will be he could be absolutely

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no, they don't till a bunchof money. They're the favorites. I
don't know if they're going to gethim. Yeah, and the West Coast
team that has the money. Theteam stink, and I love it.
No, I's love the fact thatboth those teams and met said, hey,
we're not even trying. By theway, we're trying next this this
is just let's put Shoeyo Tani intoperspective yet again. So Atani. They

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somebody compared his numbers to Aaron Judgefrom last year. I thought Aaron Judge
had one of the best modern baseballseasons without any controversy of steroids anything like
one of the best modern seasons.Great numbers. Shootany's doing better in some
respects. Obviously if you look atops plus was a big number Aaron Judge.
I think it was two thirteen.Shooti's at one ninety two, which
it means he's always double the averagementof the baseball player, and he has

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a three point three two r A'sSomebody was saying the other thing that he
might not be a great like youknow, you might have arm whatever.
Let's say let's say he never pitchesagain still, and in fact, then
he might hit seventy home runs becauseyou're be worried about pitching every fifth.
Yeah, I mean that could happenat least what I can and say now

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is this is the most dominant I'veever seen a baseball player, ever player
question. And I don't even thinkshoheo tani. He continues to one up
himself. So I hate to puta limit on what he can do.
I can say probably though, thiswill be his best season ever, always
in his prime, in his prime, he's healthy, and he's yeah,
I think so. Yeah, twentytwenty nine. What I would love to

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see him do break Barry Bonds recordsent four seventy four was still at Daily
News. They were just saying youto if he if he ever does it.
It gets to a point where canI cross the Ben Franklin Bridge,
Chlis get you in there or something? Yeah, No, I got the
I got the Saint Louis from MartinMcGuire to the last day sixty nine and

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seventy and then uh, we allhave a press fans for you really,
So whoever somebody was in charge ofcalling it in and didn't do it?
And of course I always called myafter that, Bernie Banks a Colums so
you were able to see think nineseventy yeah, six this post dispatch.
I called Bernie. I said,yo, Bernie says he was here he'll

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take care of those there for thelast day Detroit Tiger Stadium. I wasn't
there for the last day. OhI thought you were. I was there
for We do that? We thatwith Ernie Harwell, yes he is calling
the game. I went up andintroducing myself legendary play by play guy before
the game. He says, Hey, come on and send a couple of
room. So that's amazing. Thatdoesn't happen. There's no many reasons to

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go see the Detroit Tigers. No, no, it wasn't had nothing to
do with the Tigers. It wasthe Tiger Stadium closing and it was one
of the had laces insane amounts ofmoney and the newspapers and do you go,
Hey, you know what, whydon't you just go there and spend
a ground make sure he get anice hotel, eat at the best restaurants
good I like? And you knowwhat restaurant good? Now do you remember?

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I don't remember. But now goto McDonald's and do not cross.
Do not cross the bridges in NewJersey only from the value men yet unless
you have an easy you're only seeingour boss air about when they said stores
brought a good story, he didn'tcare if you stayed at the expensive I
mean we look, we didn't,but I mean, well I should,

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I know you did. Don't stop, don't tell it you didn't. Yeah,
Joe and I used to try tosave them a lot of more.
N you did well, but wedid, we did. Mike did well.
Those it was a married Mike eatewell, Mike very well. Oh
I bet Mike new were all thegood restaurants were can say jacking Nack in
the box and even in Springfield,Massachusetts. One time I turned in an

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expense report and Rich Bojas our boss, Rich Hofman. He starts laughing.
He goes, Mike goes, you'rethe only person puts an expense before with
Jack in the Box. Arm andI would have a receipt for like three
eighty because you had to turn intoreceipt. Yeah, I'd be like,
yeah four times four Tacos and Asotahave to final four in Houston going over

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wins. We're all going at thenice restaurants. He's going to Jack in
the box everything. That would beme. Yeah, I'd probably that.
Yeah, where we go that onetime the Papadopo, that was good.
Yeah, we took the train out. Remember it's right next to the train.
Remember two miles later to the Stateplace too, the State Place.
Yeah, we were well, welook, we worked hard, but man,

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when when it was time to play, yeah we let's plod. Yeah,
so that's an aside. You wantanother rand I do, I really
do. Keep them coming, keepthem coming. I covered college football for
a lot, and in the aroundtwo ten, eleven twelve, somewhere near
all this expansion crap was going on. I had to cover all of it.
I hated every minute one because Ilove college football. I don't care

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about college football. I mean,I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna you
know, and because you're gonna havea to the college football we know and
love. His dad was completely good. We died yesterday officially. Yeah,
when the price Can stopped playing Oklahoma, it's that good. That's not right.
And then other things would have Yeah, the Big ten's gonna have twenty
teen teams, are twenty two teams. And I was only half joking about

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Temple because at some point, soyou got Stanford sitting aft there. Stanford,
Stanford won more NCA championships than anyStanford doesn't have the football money sports
they have one of the biggest athleticprograms swimming all those home right, they're
gonna be in the Mountain West.And this is all about it's all about

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now Florida State once a year afterClemsons in North Carolina. But here's the
thing, they'll be in the Bigten soon. North Carolina thinks Clemson.
Yeah, the state goes. I'dsay North Carolina to the Big ten,
Florida State to the SEC for sure. Okay, I think maybe Miami Clemson's
are really Humpton's are really good school. I could see them in a Big

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ten. Yeah, yeah, definitely, he'll be in one. And the
biggest one, of course, willbe Notre Dame. And as long as
Notre Dame as a TV contract awhere. But once that TV contract is gone,
they follow the money. Yeah,and the and the com ty to
pack and the conferences hold all thepower because like, let's say, no,
one of the things Florida States arguingabout that they should get more money

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or something. I don't know exactly. Now they're saying they're worth more as
a football Well then they shouldn't havesigned or Syracuse. They're not wrong,
but they like said all about themoney, correct, Kansas basketball does not
matter. Okay, North Caroline ofbasketball, Duke basketball or get basketball.
College basketball doesn't matter. They're well, yeah, it matters to those schools,

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and it matters in March because thatis one of the great stuff.
But even March, March is gonnachange because and your guy Brandon Quinn wrote
an amazing like it's it's almost likea doomsday scenario for college basketball. You
know, it's we've been saying,why. What's gonna happen, Mike,
is that these schools that all thesePHAs are gonna say, why are we
paying a middleman? The middleman isthe NCIA, right, they're being financed

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ninety five percent of the money thatthe nc OPERATION has comes from the men's
basketball tournament, and they're to say, why are we kids there? They
have nothing to do with the footballplayoffs, football playoffs or they administer the
NSA basketball tournament. They do agood job of it, but other people
can do that, right, Sothese conferences, the four that are left
or the five that are gets moneyfrom the NCAA tourna not a lot and

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why are we giving why are weand Saint Joe's and we're not doing it
anymore. We're out, You're out. We're going to where nowhere? Yeah,
And here's what Quinn wrote, AndI think it's a really good it's
a good I guess picture of whatyou know college athletics is going to be.
And he said, in time,In time, those leagues saying,

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hey, why not just have ourown tournament, The skies will darken,
the earth will split open, sendingplumes of hot lava spewing high into this
guy. In the laughter of wildeyed university presidents and bloodthirsty TV execs will
shake the truth. Saint Joe's grandwill be two tournaments and like a group
of five or whatever they like.Get what there'll be is there'll be the

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Big Boys Tournament and everybody else willbe like, then I should swoop in
and have this big toura. Theyprobably will. But Villanova, a two
time national champion just a question,will just be and Connecticut will be the
same thing. And that's why Villanovamate was thinking very seriously about moving it,
and why I said to them tenyears ago when they were free,

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you got to go, because ifyou want to be in that Yeah,
I guess what are the chances ofa basketball only going into because the Big
East is existing in its own basketballnow and they've done fine. But like
as these conferences gets bigger as longas you look, as long as the
TV money's there for the Big East, and it could be, but it's
how much team is willing to beWhat is that worth? And at some

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point, see what happened if peoplearen't paying attention to the PAC twelve ten
whatever they're quality these days? Happy, Yeah, what happens three at the
moment. But what happened was theirnew commissioner could not get a television contract.
Big end upside with the ball havinga deal with Apple, who says
we'll get you X amount of subscriptionsand the other school said, nonsense,

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we're out of here. Good Bob, I'm gonna buy Apple to watch Washington
State play Oregon State. Yeah,I don't think, no question. But
which side is I mean Pack twelveman the Rose Bowl, the pack of
the Bag against the Big ten RoseDog gone. I mean they're still having
the playoff any far the playoff,but as we know it. I think
of some of those games you covereda couple, I mean, did those

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games legendary and Big ten taking fiftythousand people out to the West Coast on
January first play. It's all theydon't care anybody see Dion yesterday. Dion
was darker than the Big twelve.I don't know what twelve pack twelve media
because they're still in the PAC twelve. And he goes, nobody cares what

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conference we're in. I don't care, he says, I just want to
win. He says. It's allabout the money. He says, Just
go get the bags, he says. And it's laughable. They're going,
wait a second, the players can'tget paid, but these guys can get
paid, and they can move conferences. The players got to think it's a
joke. As guys whacked out ashe is, he does, he's not
about it, you know. AndI'm probably going to be very naive in

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saying this, and but this ishopefully just wishful thinking on my part that
this all is just not going towork. But you know, we've seen
so many examples of this. Ithink with streaming. I think we're seeing
it with things like the Athletic andthings like that. They're following, you
know, viewership, they're following allof these numbers. But what happens when
you take away the essence of whatmakes college football great, and that's regionality.

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That's you know, not just rivalriesof who's in your conference, rivalries
within states and within you know,miles apart from each other. What happens
when you take that away? Youknow, is it going to be the
same when USC goes over to HappyValley where they go over, Yeah,
it will have the same John becauseI guess again, Nebraska Oklahoma was the
best game on the counter every yearand then they stopped playing because Nebraska joined

(27:57):
the Big Ten. Of whatever happened, I can't wait. I can't wait
for Rutgers organ because but yeah,I'm sure Rutgers can't wait for that.
As long as you have a twelveteam playoffs at the end of the year,
Yeah, that's all people will get, right that goes They're going and
there will be sitting there. Okay, when USC plays Ohio State in November,

(28:21):
that game could determine who makes theplayoff. Fuck, college football will
go on. It won't be butnobody cares. For nobody cares about the
Indianas of the of the world.They don't. It's just it will go
on, and the Ohio State,mother of the quarterback. Yeah, Ohio
State guarantee you when they go tothese mega they're gonna be two Mega conferences
and whatever, You're still gonna havethe same best ten teams. I can

(28:42):
tell you every year years the tenbest it well that that ain't going to
change. Where's the twelve team playoffsstart? Next year? Next year?
Football belief? John, Why don'tyou get us to break We'll wind Mike
Dwan a little bit and then we'llwind it back up. You got you
check where your ECU people. You'retelling you there will be an in connects
ECU to the pack four once thatPhiladelphia market they fight, no question.

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Why wouldn't they, Washington State,Temple? You wonder what did the guy
from you from our good friend?Um? But isn't that like the backlist
things. Everybody takes a look atmarkets and TV, but nobody anybody watching.
One person said to me many years, they don't own the Philly He
says, Mike, you have toown the market. Yeah, Sana Villanova.

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In terms of college football teams,I would even say they're like third
in the market for college football teams, Penn State, Notre Dame and then
Temple. That's a They're not wrong, John, It's certainly not Temple football.
It's definitely not. Except when onenight when one night, God bless
God, bless bro Bradshaw for sake, schedule take that was. That was

(29:52):
that was the greatest night a photossixty five thousand people at the South Philly
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That was the hell of a day. And I was there for all of
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quarters do you remember? It onlyheld all of them? Man and beverages
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dictorarity Mike Karn, what's up withsile? Not a maker? What's up
with feming x? X? ManI go and says X, yeah,
now you know how bad you don'tthink any more you X? You know
how bad you mess things up?When I see a quote on Sports Center
and it's from a tweet and theyhave to pour it um x comma formerly
known as Twitter, to make sureeverybody knows. So if you're not tweeting,

(33:10):
what do you you're at your posting, you're posting and reposting American.
So twitter Twitter became a word literallyput into the dictionary because of this,
and they took that and the verysmart. Yeah. I thought it was
similar, similarly smart to our thefilm Inquire getting rid of Philly dot com

(33:30):
and making an inquire dot com.Yeah, Philly dot com was a brand,
yes, yes, and a lotof people can't and a lot of
people don't know how to spell inquire, So just what are you doing?
I do need help from dot com? Just catching to correct dot com.
It was simple, It was straightto the point. And see what somebody

(33:51):
probably good news is you still goto anyway, But somebody probably sat,
how can we confuse things Philly dotcom? People don't know it's and that's
the college athletics departments? Yeah,whatever, Two can we confuse things?
Let's have USC in Penn State andHappy Valley in November. That'll really actually

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I would look forward to that I'mmore I'm more interested in the trip in
February to USC and UCLA for basketball, where I can go out to Santa
Anita between the Will they do thatlike you think you'll do You have to
when you're going to West you gotto play two games. Yeah, you
can't play one. If that twelvedid that anyway, they might their road
trips. You always want to Washingtonand Washington that there for like a week.

(34:34):
I like, you'll do Oregon,Washington, and then you'll go south.
Better than Yeah, they go justone better as weep of the West
coast. Better there than somewhere inthe snow in the Midwest, like being
in Iowa in the middle of nowhere, better here there everywhere. You know,
it's making out in all this airlinesthinking, no, seriously, think
about that was the argument with Templethat they got to go like the Texas

(34:58):
and and play Texas. It lookslike a drilling trip. West Virginia now
gets to go to Arizona and ArizonaState. Nice, but that's not bad
Arizona, Like, it's not bad, but it's not close either. Yeah.
Their closest trip before was ames Iowain the Big twelve Bobby Huggins be
going on those trips, will atleast Cincinnati and West Virginia in the same

(35:21):
comp Huggins, Now he's not He'snot not alone, at least not so.
So I think here's a thought forthese guys, and we're gonna get
into some baseball picks in a second. Um, these conferences, So you
have all the mics just mentioned anairline, So you have Oregon field hockey

(35:42):
playing in Piscataway, So why wouldthey not just not do that? Have
them play Washington and UCLA and USCright, why are you Why are you
even trying to do that? Football? I understand it's what's a week you
have charters. I mean, theymight never get there given the airlines.
So what what does that all ofthat? What happens to all these minor

(36:05):
sports, especially at the school likeStanford, which is legendary for all the
Olympic sports? What happens all theI don't know. Katie Loeki, one
of the great athletes of all time, would have no home. Now it's
crazy, Well, you have ahome somewhere else, right, I mean
it's nuts. The cynical person tome now just seeing you know, college
athletic directors following money. If it'snot gonna make the money, they're gonna

(36:28):
find every way not to correct.Yeah, that's right, that would end,
that would be. But they can'tbecause the title nine. That's the
thing that we like to talk aboutthis like this is new bro, it's
not. No, it's just takento an extreme. I think now it's
the money. Wasn't this big backin the day. Notre Dame back in
the sixties. Is why do youthink they're Notre dame? Because because they

(36:50):
can be their Notre dame. Butwhen Penn State was an independent, they
pretty much did this. By theway, let's blame it all on Penn
State. They're the ones that startedall this. Oh yeah, they went
to the Big Ten. They werethe first dominant. If somebody would have
yeah, because it was at thetime, Oh my god, Penn State's
gonna go to the Big Ten?What is going on? They barely made

(37:10):
it in. Yeah, they gotin by one vote. The Big Ten
was outraged, what we can't havethis now? Teams Penn States. One
of the reasons why the Big Tennow Oregon and Washington got in in five
seconds. That amazing. It takesand I think daniel'deal tweeted this that it
takes months to get things done incollege, not anymore, and not takes

(37:37):
three minute. I'm a little confused. Somebody might be able to explained to
me why. I guess it's morehomes that will get the Big ten network
is what is the reason they're doingthis? Because they got to now share
money with Oregon and Washington. Yeah, I think it, Yeah, it
is all part of it, butBig ten. The thing is BIGEN gets
ratings. SEC gets ratings because theirEast Coast team. I don't market,

(38:00):
they want the Portland market. Theproblem with the Pack twelve is they were
the eight ten o'clock games. Theywere at night. The ratings were bad,
and so whatever network wasn't going togive them the same money the Big
ten. How are you gonna doin that noon game at Michigan? How's
that gonna work? I think theSEC and the Big ten look at it
like Moore's more more is more poweryou have more. So let's say the

(38:23):
SEC gets Clemson and Florida State.I'm just throwing them again. You're splitting
them more. But then when theygo for their next TV contract, for
all I know, they'll be ableto go and say, hey, Florida
State just want a national touch.I don't know how old this works.
Yeah, that's not a TV marketthing. That's more of a cachet thing,
the TV no TV markets and talents. All right, let's get some

(38:45):
baseball picks. Um as we alwaysdo. We start with our man and
before I'll preface this, we wantover baseball last week. Oh yeah,
so you had the heavyweight foot.I did have to. I did have
bud crawl one. I took theCubbies. No, I think, yeah,
no, I don't believe it.Yeah, I took the Cubbies.

(39:05):
I'll trust car. Kyle was theonly one that was two weeks ago.
Yall can't keep up everybody else.I'm saying Kyle's lying. I'm saying he's
probably not remembering correctly. I'll trustKyle. Anyway. We we were bad.
We'll try to do better this week. John Jansen, Uh it is.
I think it's kind of an uglycar today. A lot of big

(39:25):
favorites, a lot of like minustwo sixties to fifties on teams that I
wouldn't want to spend two fifty twosixty on. I guess the one I
would go for, probably Baltimore runline. It's about even money. Kyle
Gibson to the Mountain. He's notgreat, but Mi Gil's not having a
good year. Mets just continue toget worse. And the Orioles, you

(39:46):
know, solid team at home,great lineup, and I just trust that
line up to hit what I wantto say. I haven't checked the run
line to know it's minus one minusone Timpty for the money line, so
I'm assuming for the rune's probably gonnabe abou How could you ever think about
not playing against the Mets with youor correct. I'm not saying gonna win,

(40:07):
yeah, but I'm gonna get outof parlight today. Oh, the
run lay is actually plus one eighteen. I like it. So what do
you mean to run? You're layingagain playing a run and a half.
Okay, you're getting plus one eighteenplus playing a run and a half three
last night. Even if you losethat bet, it's good. It's a

(40:30):
good bet. Kyle. What doyou got our only winner from last week?
We think we'll have to go backto check, uh check the receipts.
You're the tape. Welcome back,Justin Verlander I'm gonna take the Houston
Astros. I know it's making aleap back into the AL but the month

(40:50):
of July Verlander has been vintage Verlanderone six nine. Uh. The Mets
won five of those six games thathe pitched in. Yeah, the only
games they won. I think thisteam's gonna be I mean, Houston's already
a good team, but I thinkthey're gonna rally behind the return of Verlander.

(41:12):
The Yankees are on the brink ofjust almost shutting it down for the
season. I was watching the highlightsthis morning. The Yankees fans. Put
the Yankees in the Mets together,they would make wild exactly. It's insane
watching the Yankee fans in last night'sgame, and I think they're on the
brink of, you know, goingto the nearest bridge. But I am

(41:35):
gonna take Verlander and the Houston Astros. Uh. My Yankees are gonna give
their players a standing ovation. Yeahthey should. It could help you never
you never known one way more savvy. Mike car Oh, I hadn't really
good, but I'm gonna you haven'tgiven anything. Just a shot. That's
serious. My mind My mind's onfootball. My mind is on football.

(42:00):
I'm gonna go back. Get yourmind out of what screwed me last week.
All right, I'm gonna get thePhillies laying a run and a half.
I know that stinks because the Phillieswin by a run. Sanchez,
who always pitches, well, Idon't even know who the Royals pitcher is,
and I realized the Royals of one. Can they get this man to
win? Sanchez? I'm laying arun a half and it's minus one fifteen.

(42:23):
And if the Phillies lose today,I swear to God I'm off them
for life. That's it. Yeah. Minus fifty, Yeah, minus two
fifty on the money line, I'mnot set up. They can lose my
bet and only win by one,but they got You can't be losing to
the Royals at home. Yeah,what what is up with this? The
Super Bowl wasn't enough. Now theygot to lose the Kansas City again.

(42:45):
Yeah, this is an outlet exactly. Well, Kyle Swerber be down into
the one seventies after will what ashort? Can you bet? Like?
What a short? I have threeturners like total base three team parlor.
Let me get my pen and paper, good against bad raise over Tigers in

(43:07):
Detroit. You just bet them towin, Orioles over Max. You were
taking Baltimore and the Coup de grathe Giants over the thirty and eighty Athletics,
and O what would that pay?What can you get for that?
I'm betting? I'm um, youknow what I'm gonna do. What I'm

(43:29):
gonna bet the entire one point fivebillion? Then I'm gonna win in Mega
million Tuesday on Always you give mea million, I'm giving you not a
dime and there you get nothing?You get you? Can you give me
a jacket franchise, free jacket,P I will get you where would you

(43:52):
like in Northeast film? Yes,I will get my Um. I will
not give you any money, butI will give you what would happen?
I'll let you ride on my jet? What would that pay? It's plus
three nineteen therega. Okay, soI get three to one on against three
dogs three terrible team. Yeah,Giants minus one seventy five, Orioles minus

(44:13):
one seventy five, Tampa minus onefor I noticed shooting. Vote to Phillies
in there and make it a fourteenparlay. Why would you want to ruins
a city in this town? Man? Why would you want to pick it?
Why would you want to ruin yourparlay. I haven't beaten Kansas City
since the eighty World Series. It'sa sad commentary on this city. Truly
a set. But that was abig get though, in nineteen eighty.
That was That was a big get, that big one. First World Series

(44:37):
for the losingest team in sports.Sister sold her soul against You can't make
that up. No, that's true. Ten thousand hells. I remember when
they lost their ten thousand one tripto ten years ago, one trip to
the conference finals in almost four decadesfor best kids one one? I kid

(44:57):
do it? Why but might theheavy MVP and he comes up to them?
I mean, who really won Denveror US? Because we have the
NBA. I thought it was Ithought, yeah, I think so.
I was thinking about they did notwin. That did not happen. One
thing. Though, we think aboutfranchises like we the Celtics. Celtic it's
great, they've only won one championshipsin TIS right now again they've been to

(45:22):
also won twenty. But we thinkof so many's franchises. It just go
along. Lake Christian Antonio got reallygood. The Lakers were really good,
and then Golden Steak got really goodand Detroit is in that mix to Yeah.
Yeah, but I'm just it's funnythough, because I'm thinking Celtic something
they only and it was Lowry Brown, right, no Pistons. Yeah?

(45:45):
So who was coach? Doc?Was coached? Doc? Doc Man the
great dos It should have retired fiveminutes later. Yes, oh god.
So who's the next Philly to geta standing Oh? Kyles, James Harden.
We're gonna make them feel good.You know what, Mike, that
is a really good point. Youknow what they want to do. They

(46:07):
had to have a James Harden appreciationCity Hall next week. I give everybody
a fake beard. Yeah yeah,I just strip club. Strip Yeah,
the strip club. Who's gonna sponsorthem? Now we're gonna go to Vegas.
We're gonna go to Vegas right now? Bring him here to Parks.
That's gonna be. Let's come tothe club at Parks. No, I
know, strip club, but wecan hang out with James wants to go

(46:27):
to the club club. They gotsome nice chairs back here in that.
I like the fake beards the job. Yeah, fake beards, Jesus God,
fake beers. So here's the goodnews. The Eagles are in training.
Yeah, that's my next rand oryou better get it rans You're not

(46:49):
gonna be here that much long.I gotta give my golf to Yeah,
we can never have enough. Iunderstand the Eagles almost won a Super Bowl,
and even if they didn't, canyou stop couch in your argument?
No, just go out people.But they've been nine and eight last year,
right, whatever we put these dailyupdates from training camp drive me insane,

(47:10):
hurts through an interception? Oh mygod? Um whatever us thirty to
thirty five. I'll read Jeff mcclean'sstory because Jeff's pretty good at what he
does, and he'll give me thisat the end of the day. Are
these guys nuts? I saw JohnClark the other day. Yes they are.
And I looked at John, Isaid John, John, and he's
just laughed. He guys, Mike, it is what it is. We

(47:30):
can't people want all exting. Thinkabout what you just said, John,
that's what people want. How nutsare wings? Commentary? When they play
nuts? And I don't care aboutthe extra when they play that first game
against I will care. I'll care. You're not gonna care about the preseason
game. You didn't watch the youdidn't watch the Jets and the Brown Thompson

(47:54):
Robinson. Why when John Jansen hadthe hut that that's fine, you bet
it, you watch it and loseit. Yeah, I and and it's
all this is angst about the Eagles. I saw the other day. A

(48:15):
Quez Watkins is the real deals.He's coming on, He's coming on on.
Q Watkins is the real deal.Like I'm six ft Philly has one
catch for negative two yards, andand you're not. I think Quess is
okay. I don't think Question isas good as ques thinks he is.
I don't think he's as good asthe Eagles think he could be. That's

(48:36):
just my opinion. Then he dropa pass in the Super Bowler. He
could have been like a big game. You know, dude, you're whatever.
You got two great receivers. Allyou have to do is be the
third receiver. Nobody's even going tocover you, right, You're gonna be
open on And he's got competition thisyear too, with the guy that got
from Atlanta. Uh, but startswith a Z. I'm not even gonna

(48:57):
try and pronounce his name. Zacchius. Wake me, wake me up,
Wake me up in uh at fourthirty and in exactly, yeah, exactly.
I mean, I'll be happy totalk about it, absolutely. I
don't want to hear this and thatand the next thing we could talk to.
It wasn't Hurts like really bad intraining camp last year, according to

(49:17):
all these stuff. I think hewas just all right. He's having the
best training camp Ever's blowing something unforeseen. Just don't get going to make the
playoffs. Okay. I don't knowif they're gonna win the division. They
forgot twenty at um I mean,do make I think we're going to win
the super Bowl. No, becausetargets hard. But they're good, I

(49:39):
mean super Bowler bust. Last year, nothing happened wrong for them until the
second half of the last game.Nothing actually actually the first half. If
Hurts didn't fumble, they win thegame. But they roped ten and we
all felt good about it, andMahomes is limping off the field. Could
have been up twenty, could havebeen huld have been up, it should
have been over and a half.But again, that team faced zero adversity.

(50:01):
But for them, that's that wasgreat. This is not going to
be zero adversity this year. Thatdoesn't mean the sky is gonna fall in.
I think this guy is gonna fallNo, I'll camp ends. That's
it. You're ready. I gottaI gotta see what's going on. Let's
see under eleven eleven and a half. Eleven and a half eleven a big
number, that is. I thinkthat's a good number. The number I

(50:22):
would that's a tough time. I'dprobably leaned it you over only real why
I think twelve could be their numberthree team Parlam. That's the most confidence
in yukon thirteen. I think thirteentie because of their schedule and in the
division. They're not going six andoz in the division. They never do.
They're not. No, it's alwaysyou're probably not going five and one.

(50:44):
They're probably going that's two losses rightthere, you know, and then
you gotta place Chief, you gottaplace in the division. Giants their stone
legion. Did they lose to Washingtonlast year? Yeah? They did?
They did again. Who was playingquarterback? I don't even know who was
playing Taylor Taylor. He was againstfake ruffing the passer? Yeah, that

(51:06):
was as pathetic. You ever noticewhen Eagles lose fake penalty? That's right.
They never lose they got cheated mightwell, I know they did.
They absolutely got cheated at the SuperBowl. I think on that sixty five
yard pump retort, I think therewas three clips, no question that I
saw no argument. I thought theysaw three. I thought the field goal
at the end was no good.Then the two Kansas City there was a

(51:30):
false start they didn't call where theydidn't cover the guy. Well that was
there was offensive. They picked theguy that was a fake pedal also should
have been illegal. Kansas City actuallyshould not have scored in that game when
you think if the refs called thegame correctly, it should have been forty
five nothing. Yeah, Eagles gotcheated. Their fans got cheated, we
got cheated, we got cheat.The lead got cheated. Well, you

(51:52):
know the refs in the NFL,they just hate Philly. They just hate
I've heard that he actually the announcershate him too. It's as in the
side, does anybody paying any attention? This is san Reddick like Mike Like.
Somebody asked m a question one dayand he just said, yeah,
I don't I'd like more money.I don't think it's gonna conclude until like

(52:15):
hold out. He's not playing boyhe's kind of he's injured, right,
Yeah, I think it's like aninjury. What does anybody think hasan Reddick's
not gonna play hard now he's gonnabe so I think that. I mean,
he said what he should like.Of course the player should say they're
under value. They if they talkedabout him for a week and a half,
they've been talking about what you're gonnasay he's over value? Yeah,
exactly. No, I'm making toomuch money I'm making. He's out of

(52:37):
his mind that I would be like, Okay, what's wrong, Barkley,
I'm okay, YaST As long ashe doesn't do crunches in his uh in
his drives at all he can sayis thank god I'm not a running back.
Yeah. Most importantly Mike Current Golfcoming up in a minute, the
Windham did uh? Did did jateam make the cut? Actually he shot

(52:59):
five Owner Yester, we didn't getthe fight. He was even the first.
He's got to finish eighteenth or better, I think to make the playoffs
next week. He's twenty first.Right now, he's got a shot.
Because I was actually one of thethings I was thinking about. But I'm
Russell Hanley in the league. Ihave him in my pool. Done,
that's scary. Billy Horshell. Second, Yeah, he shot eight under yesterday.

(53:19):
I want Mike Current golf after thebreak and then Mike Current is off
to a birthday party. JT.Tinplin very nice. Uh. Brendan Todd
is third. You're a man again. Mike keet up with another guy you
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(53:43):
uh, what's his actual name,blow bird Beto Beethoven. Yeah, he's
an eight hundred. Just sweet,the sweetest sensation there is. The Windham
Championship. That's a good question.I should notice Edgefield country Club. We're
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(54:07):
know that the top of the tournamentnot anymore. The last two weeks.
The last two weeks, the guywho was leading, but they were leading
by a lot more than russ was. Lady won the tournament. Um,
I have Russell in a pool,my year long pool. So this would
really help me if he would playwell. Um, just save it all.

(54:30):
Yeah, we're gonna see it upto Mike. I'm gonna let you
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first, I'm going to do areal quick public service announcement. I got
a carcinoma thing cut off my noseon Thursday, and they got it.
You know, at least that's whatthey told me. They did what they
had to do. I would telleveryone out there, guy, see a
dermatologist every six months. And apparentlyI'm paying for stuff I did when I
was twenty years old. Is alot of us sing sat out there and

(57:51):
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Be semi diligent about it. Andif you don't already, especially if you're
older, go see a dermatologist everysix months. Let the dermatologist look at
you. That's all the dermatologist did. We saw something on my nose and
said, I think we should checkthat out. Did a biopsy turned out,

(58:12):
you know, and it's done.I mean, I got I'm gonna
have some stitches and stuff, butbut well, it's better than the alternative
of not knowing. My son hadsomething cut off his back about two years
ago. Um, but please,skin cancer is nothing to screw around about,
and it could have been a lotworse. You know, there's there's
other forms of skin cancer that areworse. Um, and it so please

(58:34):
just just you know, just bea little diligent about it. If you're
outside in the bar and you're playinggolf, you're doing whatever. If you're
in the parks, you casino,you're okay, we're just sitting here and
it's just the light from the lights. Um, okay, all the bright
lights, thought machines will not hurtyou. No. Now, the golf
within the golf I have just inmy pool. Next week. He's not

(58:55):
eligible to play next week yet becauseand I don't think he'll do any next
week even he did. He's eightyto one to where I would eighty to
one. He's seven and I don'tthink that's going to happen. But he's
he's nine to one to finish inthe top five. I think that might
see a little bit of a stretch. But he's three twenty, he's seven

(59:16):
seven, But he's in twenty firstplace. He's tied for twenty first.
He's three twenty two. Finish inthe top ten. How mighty take a
shot at that plus three twenty.You know he's not he's gonna move up
three to watch and it would bea good story for golf if he was
to finish eighteen out And your seminteresting, Nay, Look, I'm this is

(59:37):
a tough week for me because HenleyI have him in my pool. He's
only two to one. What isyour pool? What does that mean?
It's like a year loan pool?Are you winning at the moment? Yes?
We pick it is their money involved. Um, they're like, um,
A golf company sponsors so you getgifts like so if you finish first,
you might get a set of clubs, a set of clubs, Well,
I'd rather have the money, butthe set of clubs is nice.

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Um, so you pick him inDecember, and you can only pick guy
once and won mulligan. So ifthe guy's not playing, like I like
this year, Um, who wasguy zalat Tours? Got hurt and I
had him into Memorial, so Igot to pick another guy. But if
you pick like if I have Thomas, Actually, if you don't play,
I get zero. Yeah, becauseyou already used your mulligan, right,
so and he is so if hedon't play, I get zero. He

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probably ain't gonna do much even ifhe does play. But come in hot
now. If this guy Henley caneither win or finish real high, I'd
be in a pretty good spot.And I got Scheffler and we don't do
the Tour Championship because the Tour Championshiphad too much money involved. It was
distorting what you did. But I'vehad a lucky year. I've had like
three. You're not lucky or goodat this. No, you are picking

(01:00:44):
him in December, totally different pickinghim on picking him on Saturday. It's
a little better, a little better, right, Um So anyway, so
do we like this week? Well, we're going to go with Beethoven Beetos
simply on a lock. He's eighteento one. What's his actual name?
Uh a Berg. I would takethat Thomas top ten at plus three twenty,

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and I don't want Iteths eighteen eighteen. Um, I don't want to
jinx Henley so and I don't wantto take anybody against him. You got
two possibilities. I'm rooting for Henleyand my finished his second. Does that
help you? And yeah, whywe get whatever money he wins? No?
Whatever money was money? Right?So like let's say he wins two

(01:01:30):
million, I get two millions inpoints, not in real cash. No,
So right now I have about whatdo you two million lead on the
second I got like fourteen million league. I've done good, I've done well.
Um where his first place in thistournament this week? I don't know,
it's seven million one point five maybesomething like that. But I've led

(01:01:53):
the whole year because I had JohnRam in the first tournament loose on the
league. Now I'm other people pickedthe same guy as you. Sure that
could happen? All right? Yeah, because we don't know who we picked.
Nobody knows who you picked in tooland you can pick a guy once
one time. It's like I hadMcIlroy in the British. Uh no,
no, no, it's Beak inthe British. McIlroy in the PGA I

(01:02:14):
had. Um. I didn't doreal well in the majors this year.
A little impressed with you, yea, so it was I, but um
very disappinted. I will say thisnow posting who's twenty eight to one?
Watch taking a triple bog in thelast home which you love. This cost
my friend like five hundred thousand dollarsbecause he felt from second to like um

(01:02:37):
time first my friend had him andfirst day the first eight places pay and
my friends in ninth. But it'sinteresting because he keeps you following it the
whole year. Ye So, sowe'll go just on a pure lock because
I can't take we're taking Beethoven andThomas Thomas for a top ten. There

(01:02:58):
we go, Mike Hearn, Ladiesand gentlemen on golf anymore. Rants.
We need a video of you onthe trampoline too. I'm about ranted out.
Really, UM, I didn't thinkthat was even possible. We had
a conference get conferences, pillies training. I say, college football, and

(01:03:22):
you know you were to college basketball. Guy, I love college football.
I used this to my favor.I'm really disappointed. And I knew it
was going to happen because you heardthings. It just it bothers me.
And there's nothing in college football isgoing to go on. You know,
you're still gonna have Georgia and Alabamaevery year, you know, in the

(01:03:44):
semi finals or whatever the hell you'regonna have. But it just like no
Pac twelve, no, no,no West Coast Football. That's weird and
might go belly up. And I'mserious. I mean, yeah, looks
like their next I'm joking, butat least they have a t I'm joking
about Temple. But at some pointsomebody might say, let's say Clemson,

(01:04:05):
Florida State, North Caroline will leavethe ACC in Miami. They might look
at Temple. I don't know untilthey actually notice how many people go to
the that's true, but they mightnot be there, might not be anybody
else, might be anybody laugh.Well, that's that's what I mean.
There's gonna be too many spots availablethat they want filled and just not enough
teams to fill it. And sothat's where the Temples, the Memphis is

(01:04:27):
the That's the only reason, that'swhy Temple gets in every league because they
look down the list. And no, I'm not saying I'm just saying they're
always available. They're always the teamthat's the last team. Kind of.
But college football is an and Dick'sexactly right, those fifty or sixty schools,
and we said this fifteen twenty years, they're going to go their own
way. They don't care about basketball. They will play basketball because Ohio State

(01:04:50):
cares about basketball, Michigan cares aboutbasketball. There are schools that care about
basketball make money in basketball. Imean, now, Obama last year was
maybe the best team the country,or one of them, right, they
played the aste, but they playedthe Aztecs. Whoever it was? Was
it San Diego State that knocked themney? It's a good question. I'm
not sure. And it was onethat No, No, wasn't it the

(01:05:11):
team from I can't remember anything barelyremember who? I mean, all I
remember is fau who in San DiegoState? Where the final? Yeah?
And that's why I remember. Iremember writing this thirteen fourteen years ago.
Villanova knock and Jane knew this could, Jay and I would have it was
the greatest thing that never happened.They dominated the conference, they won two

(01:05:33):
national titles, it turned out.But for their football program, it's it's
it's not now. So if youdon't have football, basically, you can't
make money. Villanova's basketball has tosupport basically whatever because football loses money,
and football loses money in a lotof Division one. If you took football
away from Penn State, that wasa lot of state. Ain't playing athletics,

(01:05:56):
correct, Michigan ain't playing athletics.There's a lot of schools like that.
Stanford, Dick Bark great, butStanford has won the greatest collegiate programs
anyway, have the greatest collegian allsports program in history. Wasn't that the
four taste daughter is never Brook fortyswam for them and the seam it happens
like and look, wasn't that longago? To Harbor had some good teams.

(01:06:18):
They had the luck they had,they were they were good. McCaffrey,
right, absolutely, I mean theyreally good. Um, Cow hasn't
been good. I get that.Um, but it's just you look at
it and you're just like, mygod like what's happened, But this was
inevitable. And the Big twelve,God bless the Big twelve. They're trying
real hard, but they're but they'redistant. Third. Oh yeah, they're

(01:06:41):
gonna become what the American Athletic Conferencewas. A conference that's like barely just
on the outside, you know,looking in look at the ACC. We're
basically saying the ACC is irrelevant.Clemson won two titles like not that long
ago. Florida States rank third.That's why I eventually they're gonna one out.
But that's the ACC. It's notgonna happen anytime soon. Those teams
are locked in. First. Theywant to make a bad TV deal?

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Was that what they did? Like, I'm trying to understand that. I
don't think the PAC twelve guy madea bid. They made it that was
a bad TV right, Well,they couldn't get a new one because their
ratings weren't good. If you haveClemson Florida State. I know if Kalahas
he's not a media market, butMiami could be good. I like,
what is it about the AC.There's a lot of interest. They just
have the ACC network and all theright, it's a lot of interesting stories

(01:07:24):
out there today. I would adviseeverybody to get on SI dot com read
PAC forty. Story about the PACtwelve is really good. It sounds like
I gotta read Brendan's really hard feltif Brendon was actually involved in a three
man squad talking about all that happened, three different players from the athletic,
writers from the athletic And then therewas a great story and I can't remember
who wrote it, just about thebusiness and how they screwed up the PAC

(01:07:45):
twelve. The PAC twelve network,you know, they wanted to be like
the Big twelve, Big ten networksaid, Well, the problem was the
guy Larry Scott, the commissioner,came up with this idea and had no
clearances. They weren't on anywhere.You couldn't find them. So it's basically
like you have a network that's noton any cable network, cable system,
so you're you're not You're don't exist. They didn't have the clout of the

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Big tench I want to ask youa progan question, what doessolve this,
if anything, mean for Penn State? Good question. Uh, I don't.
I think it's I think it's irrelevantfor football. I mean Penn State
football is a brand. They're gonnasell games out, They're gonna contend for

(01:08:26):
a playoff spot almost every year,I would think, So I'm thinking,
why would think? Yeah, Iwould Yeah, once it moves to the
twelve teen. Yeah, because they'rethey're essentially going to be a top ten
to fifteen team almost d Now,I think that now that the twelve team
thing is coming, in the factthat they're in the same division with Michigan
and Ohio State, it's going tobe less relevant. You know, they're
just gonna need there won't be divisionswhere yeah, right there, I don't
know what they're gonna be getting ridof divisions as of that year, right,

(01:08:48):
and you know, I don't knowwhether there's eventually going to be a
West and an East, but there'smore of an East than a West.
I mean, who's in the WestIowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, Oregon.
Yeah, they don't want to hearabout that, yes, but yeah,
I don't think it's gonna be relevantfor football as far as the other sports.

(01:09:09):
It's obviously relevant because there's travel involved. Um basketball is just it's so
unwieldy now with these twenty game conferenceschedules, now that you have eighteen teams,
you're gonna play everybody once and thena couple of teams twice. Is
that what you're gonna do? Imean, I don't nobody, nobody thinks
about any of that because they don'tcare, right correct, They don't even

(01:09:30):
care about the football, to behonest with you, Like, I've heard
these rumors that like, well,Michigan might not play High State? What
are you kidding me? Doesn't know. I think it could happen. I
think there's I don't think I thinkthat that's grandfather did um because TV TV
wants that game, so that game. I remember reading something that there was
a I know there was something thatcame out of on the road. It

(01:09:51):
might be years where they might notplay. One of the thoughts that I
agree with, TV's gonna step init. Yeah, one of the things
maybe should happen. So no,your dame for instance there, I believe
they're in the Big ten hockey.I believe they also might be in the
Big ten lacrosse. I believe,but also they have a foot probably,

(01:10:12):
but I believe they're in a Bigten hockey. I feel pretty competent of
that. So maybe that's what needsto happen. Football can do whatever they
want, right because it's once aweek. But maybe like that, that's
what the Pacific Coast teams could allstay in the same league. That's that's
what I think the hope would befor Villanova, that it just doesn't matter
what happens with football. Basketball doits own thing. Now again, it

(01:10:32):
all comes back to think, it'smoney. If there's gonna be right,
there has to be money for that. If there's money for the Big East,
which there could be because those schoolsget some attention, may be fine.
But five years from now, maybeUSC Penn State's a good game.
I mean that's probably a good game. Like if they played this year football,
yes, be a really good gamethis year Oregon. Let's Oregon,

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Michigan, Tech, Texas and Oklahomaare now going to the SEC to Texas.
Whatever it will go on, it'lljust be different. Some of the
rivalries and the bad teams that arennaget worse. The bad teams are going
to ruckers and football. You know. But somebody had no shot. Now,

(01:11:17):
somebody made a great point today Iwas listening to radio that it's not
just let's say the ACC teams asit presently make um thirty million dollars less
than a Big ten team. I'mjust throwing a number out that's probably right.
Go five years, I tell onehundred and fifty million out, not
just the thirty million for this year, but it's a cumulative effecting. Yea,

(01:11:39):
the Penn States get one hundred andfifty million more or higher states getting
and then they hire nine more assistantassociate headcat. You've got a recruit against
that guy. You know, money, money money for me. The hope
would be to give me some semblanceof what college football is now. Give
me the out of conference in stategames that I want. Give me Penn
State, Pittsburgh, give me NorthCarolina and se State if they're in differ

(01:12:00):
conferences. But that would be yourway of still giving the Big ten onces
to play more league games. Ohyeah, and more teams are just gonna
play all league games. No,but they're gonna play like nine, They're
gonna play more, and they alreadyplay what they pay three win one thing.
That would be nice, And Idon't know if it's gonna happen.
Penn State host I believe it's Delawareand umsund um, but maybe with a

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twelve team playoff. You could actuallyhost somebody that could beat you right or
go on the road and they're somebodyyou're not taking Delaware in that game.
I understand. I understand why theywant to SCU home games. Last year
The Wildcat Blue ends all I askof teams because this year Michigan has a

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pathetic non league schedule. Georgia hasa Patheticchigan's is gross. George is just
as bad. George is just playone Alabama every year three times. Oh
yeah, Now their first two gamesare like they're Georgia's mean Temples. Alabama
is playing Texas. They can losethat game, and then and then they'll

(01:13:04):
play Chattanooga, r Man somebody else. Um Arch, he's at the starter,
the other being a starter. Ina second, think Georgia opens up
against like Ball State or something.All I'm saying is be screaming for Arch.
If Penn still plays Delaware and youmask and then plays Pitt or plays
whomever they played West Virginia, theyeah, I mean, that's all I
ask. That's because in theory,you're gonna have two or three games in

(01:13:28):
your conference that are going to behard games that you have to win.
Georgia opens up against UT Martin andthen what's the number. I got to
look that up. Close to fifth, I would say Michigan is still worse.
I think they have Bowling Green.You on LV and East Carolina.
East Carolina is that GA. No, Michigan is not traveling from don't think.

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I don't think that one's a homeand home. I think, and
you're trying to figure out if elevenand one Michigan is better than eleven and
one whatever. Yeah, your nonleague schedule, if you've played a crap
non league schedule, that's you countagainst you. Yeah, I've always thought
that, but it never seems likeit's leading up to Michigan's one big game
that they could sway voters. Butit's going to be Ohio State. And

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if they lose against Ohio State,well they got Penn State. Penn State's
gonna be pretty good this year.Yeah, they I mean they're they're that
those three teams could all finish withone loss. I mean, if they
all beat each other, they takecharge being each other, and there I
mean a chance that could happen.Believe Penn State is home with Michigan and
at a sound state. I thinkI'm right about that, but I wouldn't
be serious. Sounds right. Thatline probably broke the charts because it's not

(01:14:36):
it's not even on you team Martin. Man, you team Martin. Who's
the most famous alumnus from you teammark? Oo? See? Do you
know that? Do you know thisanswer? I do? Well, he
wouldn't have asked the question if hedidn't know the answer. I don't know.
I thought it was just the Itdoesn't ask questions unless i'm looking up.

(01:15:01):
I'm getting so for college football,so I am. I'm it's my
favorite way have Eagles coming up atthe bottom because September, the second week
of the season, there's going tobe some game Texas Alabama. They hasn't
we get the season unless you FloridaStates. That's a monster game. Yeah,
I see the guy that is collegefootball playoff implications. That's that is

(01:15:23):
a monster game because both those teamscould be in the equation, right and
that game with sway the Martin guy, The answer is not a guy.
It's Pat Summit. Oh wow,that I did not know. Well,
look at this, there's a JulianNunamaker. Wow you Martin. Yeah,
I don't know a nun Amaker,four year defensive tackle, Buffalo Bills nineteen

(01:15:48):
sixty nine. John, Is thatgame at Florida State? Or is that?
I think it's a neutral site.I think it's in Florida, though
I think it's in Orlando. Oh, it's like that Atlanta game they play
some years goes it. Usually someof the big opening kickoff games are neutral
sets. I saw a lot ofpeople are picked an LSUE in that game
because they think this could be abig year for I'm not saying for both.

(01:16:10):
I mean it could be a bigyear for both because both have veteran
quarterbacks. Really good roster has hadgreat years last year. States three.
Yeah, Joy Trivis is getting alot of Heisman hugs. Still not soldering
the coach. But no, I'mnot even But I mean, I mean
it worked out for him last year. Yeah, I'm not completely convinced.
And he can continue double digit winseasons over and over. A a couple
of quick NFL thoughts before we getthe break, and we'll let Micael run

(01:16:34):
on the trampoline. NFC Eagles plusthree hundred forty nine Ers plus four hundred
Cowboys plus six fifty Detroit is thefourth choice. In the NFC at plus
nine hundred does that? So that'sto get to the super Bowl? Camp
at Dallas, and I love.I think Dallas is going to have a

(01:16:57):
great regular season plus six, butthey never do anything. I can't bet
them correct. I might bet wouldeither be the Eagles or the forty nine
ers. If the forty forty nineers lost five quarterbacks last year and still
got to where they got and theygot to a super Bowl with Yeah,
that coach can coach great. Yeah, great scheme and the person roster.
Their roster is as good as theEagles. I think. I think the

(01:17:19):
Cowboys is close to the Eagles,but the Eagles to me or the team
even the Cowboys taking a step back, I don't, not not entirely,
but I don't. I think thegap is kind of a little bit.
Well, the fact that Dallas isthat bridge to like you know, the
next tier defensive lineman being out,that's yeah, it's not good. And

(01:17:41):
like you said, I can nevertrust Dallas, So I'm not even touching
that. I think the team thatgot closer to that grouping is Seattle.
I know the history does not gowith the Eagles are the team to be
Yeah, that's that much, Iknow, because what they did last year.
I don't think they're gonna win fourteengames year jail, and I don't
him taking a step back necessarily theirdefense. I don't know, but I

(01:18:03):
think the Eagles are gonna win eleventwelve games somewhere in there, and they're
either gonna be the number one seedor they're gonna be the two seeds,
or you know whatever. A coupleothers before we good might get out of
here. How about this Detroit Lionsplus one thirty five to win the NFC

(01:18:24):
nor unheard of? But who wouldyou bet? And if you didn't bet
that, look they should be thefavorite. I don't have a problem.
I think the plus one thirty fiveis actually about this John Jansen AFC South
Oh, Jacksonville one. There's alot of pressure on they gotta win.

(01:18:44):
There is pressure. Oh absolutely,what a horrible division. Tennessee's the only
tends even Like, here's acceptable.Here's the bet I want to make.
I don't know if I can makethem. Tampa Bay to finish last in
the NFC South. Yeah, they'repicked and finished second to last. Who's
picked last? They're the worst team. Atlanta Atlanta might be Yeah, it
wasn't bad Atlanta at one point.Tampa they are picked Tampas and the Cardinals.

(01:19:12):
Yeah they're plus twenty five Cardinals.But can you bet. You go
to a book and say, Iwant to bet Tampa finish last, Yeah,
and you and you'd be laying bacon. You'd be like minus five hundred.
I want to bet that the Cardinalsin the Bucks have to the two
worst records in the NFC. Who'sthe quarterback of the Bucks? My uh,

(01:19:33):
it's either gonna be Baker Mayfield andHile Trick. Tampa. Bay is
minus one oh six to finish last. Baker and the coach can't coach can
see is he's a great defensive coordinator. Coach ari Zona is minus two zone
bet like brutal. The one betI have better for that, Jonathan,

(01:19:57):
You're a man. I don't thinkit has anything doing him. No,
the quarterback, it's gonna be ashame because everybody's gonna pilot on him because
of what happened at the end ofhis But he has no shot of winning
anything this season. No coach wouldhave any shot of winning anything. But
I actually, like Jackson, wantto get the number one seat A ten
to one. Well they can getso they can get rid. I like
it ten to one. Other thingis tough number one. That's good news

(01:20:21):
is they're gonna be seated high becauseof their division, their division, they
might go so they they're probably they'reprobably gonna finish second or third, I
would say. But they're good enoughtoo, And I think that's that's what
part of it. What is theChargers number? I'm interested with the Chargers.
Chargers are fifteen to one, andthat's because they're in their number over

(01:20:44):
number one seat. We don't havethat. I would say about nine and
a half, ten nine and ahalf. See, I I think I'm
going over on the Chargers. Idon't think they're gonna win the wet more.
But time they were the attend gameslast year. Yeah, at some
point they got to break through.Man, they get such a head coach.

(01:21:06):
Yeah, I mean I was impressive. They're head coaching. Yeah,
you're right about and you know,I gush about this, but also I
was seeing a lot of people breakdown that game in the second half recently
just to see what happened with theChargers, and yeah, it really was.
Trevor Lawrence is kind of was amazing. Yeah, really, and he

(01:21:28):
got a coach and he survived Urbanbefore. Only pri in the AFC is
you got the Chiefs. That's it. And and you've also got there's some
good teams in the FCO. Allthe good teams, they're except for two.
Nobody seems to know about Cleveland.But if if the quarterback plays like
the quarterback play, okay, Um, Cincinnati's good. Okay, the Chets

(01:21:50):
I think are gonna be good.I'm not saying it gonna be. The
Bills are pretty good, and theDolphins are good. If two of us,
there's a lot of good teams inthe the Eagles could be the fourth
best team in the af You mentionedBaltimore too, Yes, I think Baltimore
is prime. That's why the Eaglesare gonna win the Super Bowl, because
they're gonna go um scathed. Anyother squads will come in. That's what

(01:22:13):
happened to last Vega. But that'swhat happened last year. That's they got
cheated last ves But they did comein on they got cheated. I don't
know how many times hears the Eaglesmade the Super cheated. He made it
act like he had a hurt act. Well, everybody's everybody's just out out
against Philly announcers especially. I stillgo back to what you said, and

(01:22:34):
they should have on side kicked whenthey tied the What did they have to
lose twenty yards? Yeah, andthey would have scored faster, yes,
yeah, and they could have gonedown and one the game. I wish
more teams, I thought. Ithought, if he didn't get the on
side kick, just let him scorewhere they were going to score anyway,
exactly faster time, you would havemore time. I mean, what nobody

(01:22:57):
who's stopping anybody? That game?It was it was like a college overtime
game that nobody was stopping. Well, the second half was like Georgia Versutam
Martin. I would say, MikeKerr, alrighty with it, irrespective of
what happens in the last thirty minutes, MVP of this show, without any
questions. Yes, I'll be theMVP. If baeto from which one of

(01:23:18):
us is the trade turner? ThenI thought that would think that would be
that would that be let's say,who's John's minus two fifty becoming less?
I mean it's natural. Kyle Nunamakeris Kyle Schwarberg, you know, batting
one when he does do something right, good taken turn or finished the season

(01:23:40):
over No, no, maybe twoforty man if he got to two sixty
at this point, and there's probablygonna be a couple of weeks or so
where he does sit well. ButI think overall it's a couple of weeks
but a couple of innings. Andyou know the thing is, I still
think the fillies you're in the playoffs. I definitely in the playoffs. Well,

(01:24:00):
I just think definitely anything, butit helps to be in against every
other wild card. Say there isa there is a very good chance they
make the playoffs. I think sobecause I look around the National Lake and
I'm just like Spats. They're they'reThey're not They're average. Everybody's just like
average there. They're Arizona has collapsed. Mmy has collapsed. Yeah, the

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NFL future numbers in front of me. Boys um at the AFC East,

(01:27:18):
the Jets are a better price thanthe Dolphins. The Jets are plus two
fifty, the Dolphins are plus threehundred. Aaron Rodgers just a spotlight.
Yeah, yeah, defense, defense, which is I think they have some
talent offensively, didn't didn't have aquarterback, and yeah one they're gonna get

(01:27:41):
Bruce hallback as well. The questionis Jack Wilson looked like he was in
mid season form. Uh So,the question is is Aaron Rodgers still good
enough to do what everybody in NewYork and all those Jets fans are hoping
that he will do. I thoughtthe last year in Green Bay he wasn't

(01:28:03):
as good as obviously he's been,But maybe it was personnel, maybe there
were other issues around there that that'sobviously people are banking on him, saying
you know, like the latter dayTom Brady and still having it. I
don't think he needs to go backto MVP forms because you look at what
they did last year with no quarterbacks. If he plays like he did last

(01:28:24):
year for this Jets team, they'regonna be a playoff team. Maybe they'll
win the division, but they'll bea playoff team and contend more than Maybe
I'm not remembering things correctly, butalso I don't think Tom Brady had the
competition at near the end of hiscareer the way Aaron Rodgers does. Now
that's true, the AFC is loaded. This may be the most loaded I've
seen more than an AFC or atleast the conference in a very long time

(01:28:46):
with quarterbacks. I mean, Iknow we've had the year with Philip Rivers
and Ben Roethlisberger and Brady and Manning, but this is top to bottom one
of the deepest quarterback conferences I've evertalking about quarterbacks that are in their mid
twenty. I mean, this isthis is close to what five to seven
Hall of Fame quarterbacks potentially, sir. You know, it's the guy that

(01:29:06):
I could say maybe better than allof them, and Patrick Mahomes so I
just Rodgers. You know, TomBrady wasn't getting passed over. Aaron Rodgers
may have gotten passed over by allthese guys. That's a great point.
So my homes in Kansas City,Allen in Buffalo, Burrow in Cincinnati,
now Rogers in New York, LamarJackson in Baltimore, your man Trevor Lawrence

(01:29:30):
to it in Miami, Herbert Herbertand Ella Lord, Russell Wilson. I
mean, if he could find right, yeah, if he could find anything
with Sean Payton, Russell Wilson's there. Yeah, the Browns, I mean,
if Watson can go back to whathe was in Houston or Thompson.
Good Lord, it's loaded. Imean, that's that's that's ten teams I

(01:29:51):
just mentioned. Yep, all withall with great quarterbacks and all all teams
that you would consider. In contrastthat with the other li where it's Jalen
Hurts and a bunch of Dak Prescott's. Dak Prescott would be second best.
Yeah, Gino would be third.Gino maybe Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins is

(01:30:15):
okay, but wow, look atthe fall off. Yeah, wow,
look at this. It's all It'sall in the about the Rams. The
Rams won the Super Bowl two yearsago and their thirty five to one.
They they don't they bought in thatone year for a couple of years for

(01:30:36):
a super Bowl. They got it. And we went from ten star quarterbacks
to one. One. Yeah,in the in the NFC one only one
and he's Jalen Hurts. Good God, that's incredible again, which is the
reason I think the Eagles are insuch great shape because even if they don't

(01:30:57):
have a great record the rest ofthe conferences. Yeah, and then you
know the quarter number one and thequarterbacks that are right behind him, Cousins
and dak are Yeah, they're they'relike, yeah, that's That's the exciting
thing about you know, the Eagles, And the exciting thing about Jalen Hurts
is I think the question is howmuch better can he get? You know,
how much? Because that's that's howyou can ask you know, Patrick
Mahomes are already seen the ceiling.But you know, I think you can

(01:31:18):
ask that with Trevor Lawrence justin HerbertUm, you can ask that with a
couple of other guys in the AFC. You know, how much better can
they get? And the only quarterbackyou can ask that question of in the
NFC, is is hurt? That'swhy you know, how much better easy?
That's why you rattled off the AFCquarterbacks. And I'm like these quarterbackers

(01:31:38):
three twenty four years Lamar Jackson stillI think only twenty five twenty. Yeah,
he's the best I know. Wewent through the top ten of the
AFC. San Francisco's quarterback is SamDarnold. To start now, Park Purty
looks like he's gonna he's gonna makeit back, all right, so they
you know, they like him,but he was still the last pick of
there. I don't, I don't, I don't. Um. There's Saints.

(01:32:00):
The Saints got the guy from Derekcarf that's Derek Carts, Okay,
whatever, Yeah, Gino Smith,he's not gonna he can't. He can't
repeat what he did last quarterback inAtlanta as a kid from Cincinnati Bears.
Justin Fields. Justin Fields is maybethe highest upside out of most of these

(01:32:20):
quarterbacks. Packers love we don't knowanything about. I don't know, and
I even I even hate to makeany kind of analysis. Shiance is not
good. Nobody can tell me DanielJones is good. Yeah, Bryce Young
and Carolina. Yeah, really,so you would try and project it to
be. But Stafford is still alivein hits his last year. He's not

(01:32:43):
gonna do. How about Jared Golf, Jared Goff is okay, Jars Okay,
yeah, Washing, But that's that'sthe good thing about the NFC Washington.
There's the quarterback in Washington, Samhow But that's a that's a good
thing about Jared goff Is. Yourgolf is okay. I'd like Jared Golf,
especially in that system works really well. Breaker Baker Rayfield or Kyle Trash,
it's pretty bad. Like Jared guffis just being okay. He had

(01:33:06):
a really good year. He did. He had a great Yeah. I
used to even really he had agreat year. He was awesome. Detroit
did not have like the worst defensein the history of the world. The
Wolf playoffs and they they should begetting Jamison Williams at some point unless he
goofs up again. We'll set someother games. Yeah, at that or
the side. One of my favoritethings the other day was I think it

(01:33:27):
was the I was the backup quarterbackat Iowa State made like ah, yes,
hundred deckers. Yeah, yeah,like three hundred bets and it was
like two thousand dollars. I said, that's seven dollars a bet. He
should be barred from future yea anddoing anything. If he's only got a
bet seven dollars, what are youdoing? So I I understand that maybe

(01:33:49):
there's like a conflict there because youknow, all these betting companies are being
sponsoring these college football shoes. Butalso correct the kid was under twenty one
and he was betting at some point. The responsibility just needs to be on
the immature kid that's that's doing it. Yeah, you know, I look
it's but what do I think hewas fixing any football games? Now?

(01:34:11):
So I see all the time justyou know, the the NFL players are
betting, but can't think bet becauseyou know they're being sponsored by betting companies
a this ye Also the NFL issponsored by like beer companies in Anaheizer Bush.
Does that mean they're allowed to drinkof the facilities? Are they allowed
to Are they allowed drinking work?Right? Like there's you can you can
separate responsibility and things that shouldn't bedone when you're at work, in the

(01:34:34):
workplace or wherever you're at and beable to decipher when you should be doing
this. Should not have any problemwith athletes, college athletes, pro athletes
betting on games other than their's ownsport. No, no, but and
just don't do it at the facility. It's common sense. There's it's really

(01:34:55):
not that hot. It's really Again, I think the kid's gonna get more
trouble, mostly be as he wasunderage betting. Yeah, which that's that's
the worst stuff, right, Yeah, he's not going to jail, nor
should he go to jail. Heprobably won't get to play college football anymore,
which is unfortunate, but that's justthe way it is. Did he
win his bets? I don't.I don't. He seemed to be I
don't, you know, somewhat Ihad to say responsible better he was not

(01:35:17):
betting, he wasn't. Yeah,he wasn't, he was, he was
good. Yeah. And my guesses, and I don't know this, My
guess is he was one of thoseguys who was betting this guy's gonna rush
for over forty yards. Yeah.Yeah, he probably wasn't even betting a
points bread. Yeah. I don't. Again, I don't know that he's
a player, prop guy. Imean, I mean that's what kids like.

(01:35:40):
It's like fantasy fantasy stuff, right, I mean that's essentially what that
is. Yeah, you go,right, And that's why all the fantasy
guys, like our guy that wason with us a lot of times,
they're so good at at doing thatkind of stuff because Brad Feinberg, because
he's got he's got all that infoand he's really sharp at it. That's
where the trends and the matchups reallycome into playing. So afc uh your

(01:36:02):
Jacksonville Jaguars thirteen to one plus thirteento win the conference, which doesn't mean
the best record means they got toget them shot. Yeah, I gotta
get the super Bowl. Okay,it's tough. They're the sixth choice.
See. I think that's wrong fora couple of reasons because they have the
easiest division. When you pointed out, I mean by far, their division

(01:36:23):
has got awful. Yeah, AndI think what what hurts them in that
conversation is their division is so easyto have thought out. Jackson was just
gonna win the division. But oncethey play the tougher teams, you know
they're not good enough. That rosteris good enough. That roster is they
are deep. They were about ifwe e to four really good pass catchers
deep people all remember this, Jetsare too high. They had the Eagles
down fourteen nothing and they were drivingye and that was really the season where

(01:36:48):
Trevor Lawrence was still kind of workingworking through a lot of the issues that
happened during the erander. Here's whyI like your play. What do they
lose to the Chiefs buy in theplayoffs? Like ten and yeah, they
were in the game. They werein the game or a touchdown with eleven
minutes left to make it a threepoint they would have had a chance to
win the game if Jamal Agnew didn'tthat game they fumbled the Kansas City nine

(01:37:08):
yard They were in that game.Theack it was arguing with some buffoon on
Twitter, but he was saying thatwas like never a game. It was
definite. It was definitely a game. So here's why I like your thirteen
to one two Jacks. They gotthe Bills and the Jets ahead of them,
Well, jetsould not be They Jetshould not be ahead. That's strictly
New York and Aaron Rodgers. Andthey have the Ravens and the Bengals ahead

(01:37:30):
of them, and they're in thesame division, it seems unlikely to make
Bengals should be ad in the billshould be I don't think the Ravens should
be the Ravens. Yeah, well, I think the Ravens and the Jets
should be. What what the hopewould be with about like Jacksonville is Jacksonville
can get one of the higher seeds, you know, and I think they
will have a shot at the numberone seed. No, I'm betting that
most because it's ten to one.I think they have a legitimate shot.
Added. But even if they getlet's just say the number two seed,

(01:37:53):
they'll be ahead of Cincinnati, They'llbe ahead of Buffalo in that circumstance.
Uh, the Ravens will be ina wildcard team. So essentially what you're
getting is Jacksonville home field advantage,the route until they played let's just say
Kansas City is not that Calvin Ridleyto add to the young great quarterback Calvin
Riddley, Douglas Peterson is a isa proven big game, big moments coach.

(01:38:14):
He will not Yeah, they're they'reonly like They're only problem might be
is edge rusher. But they spenta lot of draft picks. There a
lot of topping draft picks, andthere are a lot of number one or
first round guys that are in theirdefensive line, and if any of them
kind of pan out play better thisseason, they're their defense could even get
a lot better. So yeah,I just love the offensive firepower in Jacksonville

(01:38:36):
is over will. So the Eaglesare the um the cheapest price of any
team to win their conference, andthey should pay. Yeah, they're they're
plus three hundred Kansas Cities plus threeforty. Interestingly, Kansas City is a
slight favorite to win at all.Or I guess the theory is if they
get there, they just beat theEagles. They're plus six hundred Eagles plus

(01:38:57):
longest Patch Mahomes and Andy Readers.He just goes back to the competition.
Yeah, yeah, No, Ijust think Kansas City's chances of getting there
are so much less than the Eagles. Yea. And it has nothing to
do with how good they are,it's just doing they're playing. One small
slip up, Yeah, it's itcould happen. Look, and they've had
a couple I mean they they hadfive conference championship games with Mahomes, all

(01:39:18):
at home. They won three ofthem, right, they lost two and
won three. That sound right,Yeah, lost early to the past the
Patriots in the Atrick Mahomes has neverlost a road division game in his career.
It's never lost. He lost thedivision game. Has he played a
road division game? I think thePatriots. No, I'm not even talking
about division, I say play.I was thinking, has he ever lost

(01:39:41):
a division game? Period? Itnever lost? That's crazy. I think
it lost to the Chargers moving.I know they're like, he's like fifteen
and ozer or something on the road. That is kind of ridiculous. So
there's that. Um, so let'sgot to We've done this a little bit,
but let's do it against since we'regetting closer now. September seventeenth,
twich today August fifth, So itwas six weeks away from Do I have

(01:40:05):
that right? Five weeks? Sixweeks five out the seventeenth. This is
the second week, the tenth.The tenth is the first week, So
five weeks from the opening of theNFL. So let's see if anything has
changed with the Eagles in the fourtwenty five game. Maybe they listen to

(01:40:29):
you and the spreads up to twentythey are minus five. I thought it's
been five. It's been fluctuating betweenI think five five and alight, so
that that's the easiest bet as youused, I think for the most part,
guys, thirty one three final.I'm hearing Mac Jones positive stuff out
of New England. Yeah, okay, not buying it to take that under
as well. Do they have anyguys on their offense that scare you at

(01:40:54):
all? That's Roman Stevenson's prob thebest way. I mean to have some
good tight ends, but their skillposition players just good enough, and I
think that's always going to be theirtheir Achilles heeal Darius Slay two pick sixes
sixes, not not one, buttwo two. So we like the Eagles
in the opener. We see MarcusMariota in that game in the fourth quarter

(01:41:14):
garbage time, Yes, we do, h maybe even in the third quarter.
John Jackson likes Detroit plus seven.Yeah against Kansas City, I think
I'm gonna stay within in the Septemberseventh opening game of the National Football League
season. Yeah, I just thinkseven's a good number to take. I
know, I look, this maybe a more popular play than I'm gonna

(01:41:35):
make it out to be, butit's Kansas See at home opening this stealing
money. Also one o'clock on thatSunday, Jacksonville giving three and a half
of those sad sack coals without everythingthat's going on with Jonathan Taylor. Oh
so there's this whole thing where Indianapolishas kind of been a thorn and j

(01:42:00):
acting side. But you know they'regonna start Anthony Richardson. I'm sure Anthony
Richardson's gonna have positive but yeah,I think it's his passing is going to
be a work in progress and thatthat's probably gonna hold it back back that
game. Why will that game beclose? Twenty seven ten Division game opening
Day. That's the same thing withCincinnati Cleveland. Cincinnati's a slight favorite,

(01:42:25):
Cincinnati's one a half. Well,Cleveland's getting a lot more Cleveland. I'm
not fine now until DeShawn Watson canprove that he should get back to what
he was. Well, I thinkwhat's being told is the roster is really
good, and I just don't Idon't think it's that good. I don't
think either. I'm not like theyput together a decent roster. The great

(01:42:46):
running backs Nick Chubb even got amarket, and the wide receivers look great.
Muss gonna take a lot for meto buy into months day night Football
opening week bills minus one and ahalf. Jacks think there'll be much hype
on ESPN about bad game. Ithink so No, no, probably,
no, probably won't be watching.How many times will Aaron Rodgers name be

(01:43:08):
mentioned on the Four Letter Network betweennow and that that it's gonna be we
get hard knocks too, I mean, it's just never gonna Well. I
don't even know if there was agame played the other night, because all
I saw was Aaron Rodgers in theUS sweet. Yeah. Yeah, they
showed that more than they showed ZachWilson. Trace around Wilson was so bad.

(01:43:29):
Yeah, they just said Rodgers witha headset on him. That's it.
Yeah, he'll be having it.Does he ever play in the exhibition
games? Ever? He hasn't played. No, I don't think he's going
to it's the point, No,there's no point. What point? So
I don't even think there's a pointfor preseason. But Zach Wilson's figured it
all out now, right, he'llturn Yeah, Aaron Rodgers gonna mentor him.
He's gonna learn all the tricks ofthe trade from you know, the

(01:43:51):
old vet and he's gonna be great. You know what his biggest problem is
he can't play. Yeah, otherthat is that is I think the biggest
problem that he has. Yeah,you can't play. He does not appear
to have the what it takes tobe and winning NFL quarterback. Other than
that, though not to like yeah, I think what kind of people got

(01:44:13):
trapped by and I did you know, I liked him early on in the
draft process. But what they gettrapped by is, you know, he
books the part, he throws sidearmy, he can, he can run
around the pocket, he has thebig canon arm but he doesn't do any
of the little things to make youa good quarterback. And that's why,
you know, that's why I gotlike Anthony Richardson. You kind of get
a little excited about because you getto see some of that you know in
college in Florida. Now wasn't thereall the time. And obviously he missed

(01:44:36):
the throws, but when you seehim making the right reads, then you
think, okay, well we justgot to work on mechanics a little bit.
And if that gets fixed, youare you are looking at the right
thing, You're seeing the right thing. Now we just got to make sure
you can get the target when it'sso here. Here's the final question.
That's what Zach Wilson can't do.Zach Wilson can't find it. There's the
final question to day three, UmYoung hot shot quarterbacks are all in the

(01:44:59):
AFC that are now rookies. Whodo we like of the players in Carolina,
Houston, and Indianapolis the best ofthe h I maybe, um I
would say not Richardson right away.C J. Stroud likely right away.
I love the size right away,but he also has the least amount of

(01:45:23):
talent on his team. But thething is Houston they did kind of go
for it in the drafts. Youknow, they do have some fun there.
And c J. Stroud is themost pro ready, I mean all
things, out of all quarterbacks.Now Bryce Young, I'm I love Bryce
Young. I think there are somethings to be kind of worried about with
the size and how how quickly heacclimates. Now, the thing is you're
doing him, Mike Kerr, whatis the answer. The answer to me

(01:45:45):
is Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson isthe best talent out of all because I
think there was enough in Florida tosee that he knows where to go.
I'll go situationally, I'll go BryceYoung just because of Frank re NFC Frank
Reich uh and they got they gotsomething. He's got some people through Frank
Brenk's offense is going to immediately givehim some I think Adam Feeland could be
a comfortable weapon for him. Ilike Straut. I like Strout the best

(01:46:10):
of the three, but he's inthe FC and Houston stakes. Yeah,
like the new coach dude and adefensive minded coach. That's the thing.
I like Wars. I think thefoundations being set a little bit better in
Houston. You know, you havea really good up and coming coach of
the Mika Ryans. So you finallyended up drafting players instead of kicking the
can down the road and trading awayto draft picks. So yeah, it

(01:46:30):
feels like the foundations being set forStrout, but that that's gonna take a
while to pick. All right,Well, that'll be our show for this
week, and John Jansen, we'llget us on out of here. We'll
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