Sports Here, There, & Everywhere w/ Dick Jerardi & Mike Kern - 02/15/25 - Sports Here, There, & Everywhere

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:39):
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Jansen here with Mike Kurr and Kyle Nutnemaker. Dick Girardi
joining us on the phone. Super Bowl champions This is
the first thing I want to do before we do
anything else. Mike Kern, What is now the number of
Philadelphia teams and championship games?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
It's the rest game is Villanova? They three three three
what's the rector? Yeah, three, three and elevens eighty three, No,
three and twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
But Villanova's were bett in two fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
As Dick Giardi has pointed out many times, Villanova's three and.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Oh wow, and you took the Chiefs last week?

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Correct, As as I pointed out, I'm just messing. The
Chiefs had won like eighth straight, whatever was it. I said,
somebody's got to beat them.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
Well, you know what, Yeah, somebody beat They'll proven otherwise
and then the somebody will prove them.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Over the head with a mallet.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Good for the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yes, Uh, And obviously we're going to be talking all
about that game today. The celebration yesterday was going on. Uh,
Dick Gardy, I'll go with you first though, your thoughts
on the Eagles dismantling Uh, the Kansas City Chiefs who
are going for a potential three p.

Speaker 6 (01:48):
I know when we talked about the game last week,
one of the scenarios was, but the Eagles would physically
dominate the Chiefs, And that's precisely what happened. And you
could tell pretty early on especially their offensive line. The
Chiefs had no answer for the Eagles four man rush
and once that happened and the Holmes was just getting
sacked or running for his life. It was really, to

(02:10):
me just a question of what the final score was
going to be and the moment, John, and I know
you and I talked about this the other day. The
moment was obviously the Cooper de Gene picked six when
that happened, and it's seventeen to zerls. I know Kansas
City came back and beat Eagles two years before, but
this was a different scenario and this Eagles team had
not forgotten that day and they were angry about it.

(02:31):
They thought they had the better team. They kind of
gave the game away. They weren't given this game away.
They were great from start to thirty thirty four to nothing,
and then at that point it was irrelevant what happened
prem there. But it was a complete domination by one
of the great teams in the history of Philadelphia sports.
And we can discuss that where they rank is a
great professional teams in Philly sports.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
History, Yeah, we definitely can, and I think that's the
biggest sign of a dominating team and at least a
dominant performance.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Zero blitzes and.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Six all just four man rushes, simple rushes. And there's
not one quarterback that or at least one team at
the Super Bowl that has been able to win against
a team that had that doesn't blister against you. I
think it's like six times in Super Bowl history it's happened,
and all six times the team lost that had to
go against zero blitzes.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
And go see to me.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
All the numbers after like the middle of the third
quarter irrelevant. Oh yeah, I mean it was thirty four
to nothing. Thirty only numbers that are relevant after that.
Nobody cared. The Chiefs didn't care, The Eagles didn't care.
They just wanted to get to the celebration, which was
fine that that's what they should have been doing. That
that first two and a half quarters was nuts.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
I mean it was it was.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
You know, when they walked off the two years ago,
they were up ten, should have Priab been up more.
Mahomes comes out limping off the field. He comes out
after half time, takes his team down, drives. This team
wasn't driving dead. It didn't get past midfield, I don't
think til the end of the third quarter.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah. Something.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
This is just well, that's the thing that would worried
me early on after like the first quarter. You look
at the stats, the Eagles were dominating and they were
barely up ten to nine, and then the coup pick
six happens.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
You're like, okay, here we go. There's no turning. That
was the one Yeah, where like the was just taken
off and it was. It was because it.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Was very concerning. You're like, you're dominating this team right now,
you're only up ten.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
But after that, obviously that was the only worry I had.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
All that and then interception and the score again, and
then you're like, oh, okay, they have no answer. Give
the Chiefs the ball. It didn't matter at that point. Yeah,
give them the ball. It's they're not going.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
To put it in my home's hands.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Who cares, well, it's it's just keep your defense on
the field. Your defense was the is the best unit
in football.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
They proved it all season long.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
They were the best unit in football, and I thought
it was gonna win them a championship, and even in
the game itself.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
To the best units in football.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, to their offensive line is either the first or
second or whatever you want to character.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
But again last year, their offense, I said me and
Dick were talking last night. Last year, their offense or
seventh in the NFL in scoring. This year, they were
seventh in the NFL scoring. Okay, Saquon was Greatquon gave
them an element.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
They did that. But they think even more stability that
none of this happens.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
I mean it could have happened, that they could have
still that defense went from thirtieth to first.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
They they were. If we sat here in August, we said, man,
if they can just be the twelve best defense, this
would be really good. Because they were first.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, I thought I was aggressive with my prediction. I
thought they were going to be a top ten defense.
They flew, they were, Yeah, they were right. Yeah, I
was right, But it felt like I wasn't right because
they ended up being the best. And that was and
that was pretty evident early on because of because of
how I guess what happened last year. People are still
kind of skeptical of the Eagles going into the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Seven games last year messed everyone. Yeah, I think said
I understand why, because we're Philadelphia sixty four pills.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
We've we've seen things happen to our teams before.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
And the fact that we didn't have an answer on
why it would happened when people.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Were trying to judge Sirianne and jail him to a
certain degree. Go back to twenty two jailing could have
been the MVP, all right, probably should have been, could
have been the MVP to Super Bowl played tremendous.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Okay, they were ten and one last year.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Whether they were doing it with mirrors, whatever, they were
doing it.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
And then they if something happened, I don't know what happened.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Who knows, and then everybody was like, oh my god,
it's going to happen again.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Well you know what, Hey, Dick, think about this.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
If Saquan doesn't drop the pass, which he should have called,
but okay, he dropped it.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
If Smith doesn't.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Drop the pass, this team goes twenty and one. Say
how many teams in the history of whatever go twenty
and one.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
It's just that the only game they actually lost, right, Mike,
was a Game four against Tampa Bay when a lot
of the backups were and then they were still trying
to figure it out. The defense that the Gene hadn't
played yet, and he certainly changed things. Uh, make your
credit to Vic Fanjo and the defense. They had a
great plan for Mahomes and as John said that he

(07:10):
can rush. It doesn't matter who it is. You can
put that kind of heat on what four guys, the
quarterback has no chance, no quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
When you get to a quarterback, the whole team feels it.
So when you're hitting Mahomes or doing whatever you're doing,
the whole team. But I heard somebody say this this week,
and I've never really thought about it this way, but
the Eagles had two new coordinators. Okay, they don't play
in the preseason, none of the players play. So they
were saying our first four, five, six, seven games even was.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Like exhibition season. I never thought about it that way.
Once the whole league is like that. Once they hit mid.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Season and they had decided how they were going to play,
We're not going to turn the ball over. We're gonna
give the ball sake one man, they were almost unbeaid.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
Close to perfect. Yeah, they really were on eat Well.
The only game they lost is the Washington game where
Hert's got hurt. And they don't lose that game if
he doesn't have a concus because they right, they hold
the ball longer and Barkley's more effective in that situation.
But yeah, I mean, remember back to the beginning of

(08:18):
the NFL season, right when all the favorites were losing. Mike,
It's exactly what your point is. Nobody's right, not just
the Eagles, none of the teams are ready. And then
after about four or five weeks, all of a sudden,
the favorite started to dominate the rest of the season.
So yeah, it's it's really the first four weeks have
now become the exhibition season, except the games count. It's

(08:39):
totally bizarre. And then by the end of the season,
the best teams show up and they prove who they are,
and I can't wait to see who they decided that
on the Thursday night game for the opener next year.
Mike and I were talking about this yesterday. Are you
guys thinking Detroit? John and Kyle? We think in Detroit?
Here it's Alinklan Thursday night for the opening.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
I think, so that's that's what I'm guessing.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
You look at the home the eight opponents are going
to play here. The only other one who made sense
to me was Washington.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
But I don't think they're gonna They're gonna do with
the Vision game. Detroit makes too much sense. It absolutely does.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
The two best teams in the NFC, and especially you
kind of don't know what Detroit is going to be
after it.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Just but that's the thing. I want to see that
matchup later on in the year. I don't want to
think the NFL wants to see a Week one because
they in the NFL. Of course Detroit worries.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
Your point, Yeah, your point is to go with, yeah,
who wants to see it? Then when they're still in
the exhibition.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Exactly their best down the road.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
But they're not going to give you like Chicago, They're
not going to do that. They're they're they're going I
mean all those Chicago.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Maybe with the new who Ben Johnson, I think it's
going to be Detroit, but it might not be. I mean,
it might be somebody else. You know, I don't think
it's going to be the AFC team.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
But Mike as a Philadelphia guy more certainly, I didn't
grow up here, but it's a guy growing up around
the sports.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
I've been living a long my entire life, and you
been here a lot longer than I have.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
What are you trying to.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
Say, I've been here long enough. But Mike As, You're
watching the game and you and you come to the
realization you watched it up sports. You know how it's going,
you know what's going to happen. You know the Chiefs
are not coming back. What are you thinking in your
mind as you're watching the Eagles play.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, I'm thinking of all the older championships that I've experienced,
the Two Flyers, the Sixers in eighty three, the Phillies
in eighty and the two Eagles, And there were some
of them like like the Phillies and O eight you
kind of knew they were going to win, you know,
it was just a matter of whatever. Sixers, you knew

(10:44):
they were going to win, especially the Lakers had two starters.
At if the Lakers had all their teams, the Sixers
were going to win. But this was just I've never
sat there doing a game dick of this magnitude.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
And he wasn't worried.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
All he was worried was about my Blackpool because I
had a chance to win black.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Andy started going for two pointers.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
I mean, it was again, I don't want to get
carried away with this was the best ever of this
Maybe it is maybe maybe again I'll say this. The
eighty three Sixers and the sixty seven six ers, different years,
different sports. They are considered among the best teams in
NBA history. That's just a fact. That's what people.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Whether this team is among the best teams in NFL history,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
I mean, you know, you had the Steelers, you had
the forty nine Ers, you had the Dallas Cowboys in
the euro you had all.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Those Patriots teams.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
So again you're you're up against a different kind of whatever.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Is it the best Eagles team?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I would think so, although you know, people forget in
seventeen that team was damn good. Oh yeah, they lost
two games with Wentz, you know, and I think lost
three overall.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Right, they only lost they only they didn't lose in.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
The Bats, right. I told Mike this story yesterday. Guys,
you get a kick out of this. So Sunday morning,
I'm in California right there for a couple of basketball games,
and I wake up Eastern time and it's like four
in the morning. So at seven o'clive my clock still
hasn't justice And I turned on the TV and the
NFL Network has the Chiefs Eagles from two years ago,

(12:10):
and I'm watching it and I'm looking at the Eagles
wide outs and I see Zach Pascal and Quez Watkins,
and I immediately said, they can't lose this game today.
Look at they're bringing out there today. You know, even
the backup guys.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Won that game, even with Pascal and Quasi.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
No question. Well that's not the point, right, They were
so much better. I mean, as Mike said, they should
have been up by I don't know, twenty one points
at a half, but two years ago, and the game
would have been over. It was the Hurts fumble for
those pick six that changed the whole game in gave
Kansas City life. And I said, man, they are just better.
And we had talked about it on the last Saturday show.

(12:50):
Player for player there was no comparison between these teams.
But you know, Mike said it, and he wasn't wrong.
He said, look, the problem is they got fifteen. They
got my homes up. But it turned out that he
is mortal like everybody else that's ever played the position
where he has zero time to throw the ball, and
he's getting and he's getting enough, and he's starting to

(13:10):
freak out and he's throwing interceptions and then next thing,
you know, to.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Get some people on the radio tap I was listening
to a show in National show and speculated that Mahomes
might have gotten hurt early in that game, because if
you remember the Bucks game when they lost, he was
running around, he was trying to make things happen.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
This game, it just seemed like he was kind of like.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
They felt defeated pretty quickly. And I think they figured out.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
He threw too many passes that were really horrible passes
for him.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
I don't know, you know who knows, whatever.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
He Here's what I would say. I saw the shot
where they said he might have hit his had right,
and it was pretty early and he potentially I did
see that, and look, that's possible. But here's what I think.
He was already under duress before that even happened.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Oh, they weren't losing, Beagles weren't losing, but maybe.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
When and I think, you know, fight, I think what
happened was, Yeah, I think what happened was they weren't
doing anything and he felt like I gotta do something.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
And he said after the game.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
You know what he said, after the game, you know
what I should have done? All right, it's ten to nothing.
We have a great defense. Let him just play defense
and punk the ball. We have to, but he wanted
to be a hero and it cost him two Hero packs.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Interception for the Hero of seventeen.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
All they had to do the did punt the ball
and maybe they hold you.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
But again, yeah, I was thinking about this too.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
It's funny, like, was this the best defense ever that
the leagle right people were running? Check out the ninety
one defense. I went back to the midle of them all.
I mean this team was this team was better. Okay,
that defense was one of the best in NFL history.
They lost Randall in Game one, Randall goes down, Boom.

(14:57):
They finished ten and six. They went on that three game,
the body Bags game I think was that year. The
House of Paying game was that year you had Reggie White,
Jerome Brown. I can name you, like three other guys
down who's now fighting. This is why we lose track
of because that happened thirty five years ago. As Dick
always talks about with horse racing and revetting, there's a

(15:18):
re recency bias.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
What Diegos did last week was tremendous.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
It may be one of the best Super Bowl efforts
of this century or whatever, or I'm.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Not trying to deny you.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Just remember that other teams have done stuff that was
just as good.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
But for Philadelphians to be celebrating two championships in eighteen
seven years or eight seasons, however you want to look
at it, and there may be more on the horizon.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
I mean, we don't know this, We don't know what
this could hold. What makes you forget about the sixers?
Who is still on the team And I don't know,
I don't know who's on the team. I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
And I think that that image yesterday was the best
image and shows that this has been the best air
of Eagles football. What this franchise is now two Super
Bowls right next to Brandon Graham, two Super Bowl Lombardi
trophies next to them. This is a franchise number fifty
two years, didn't have one the one that you almost
almost won. But I mean, this is a franchise that
was snake bitten, couldn't win a Super Bowl. It was

(16:19):
one of those teams that were just you never know
if they're going to win. And to now the reality
b you are one of like very few franchises that
have multiple Super Bowls.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
To me, now, Andy made all those those NFC to
but that I'm not county. The Phillies from eight to eleven,
they had a run where they were a factor every year.
They could have won it a couple of times. You know,
they made it back to one World Series. This reminds
me of that, and I can't think of any other
thing in I mean, the Sixers in the early eighties

(16:53):
and late seventies were going through a lot of finals.
They won one, but that was forty five years ago.
Most people don't remember that. You bring up those teams
and they just look at you funny, like euh. And
that's the way it should be. I mean to this generations,
just like I say to my generation, the Phillies winning
in eighty was every bit the same as Eagles winning
in seventeen. Phillies had never won, they were the worst

(17:15):
franchise in sports. They won a World Series, but most
people now weren't around for that. They just weren't. It
was forty five years ago. So the seventeen Eagles, to
you guys generation, was that team.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
You know, the Eagles had never won a Super Bowl. Hey,
they won it. And now you're looking at the possibility
maybe in the next.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
I don't know, four, five, six years, they're gonna be
in the mix every year unless Jay Mike.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
Yeah, I would look at it this way too. Let's
think about this. John Kyle mentioned this. So, the Eagles
were in two Super Bowls in a half a century, right,
in the first fifty years of the Super Bowl, they
were in two of them, right, And now they've been
in three and eight years and they've won two of them.
The only comparison in my memory of local filled up
the sports is when the Phillies were the playoffs the

(18:02):
five straight years with all the great players that they had.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Back to back World Series was extra.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
Yeah, it's baseball, and it's harder. It's much harder to
win in baseball because of the nature of the sport, right,
because there are fewer runs. The best team doesn't always win.
The Phillies had the better team, certainly the last year,
the eleven when they had that great team and they
lost to the Cardinals. I mean, that was probably the
best team they ever had. They didn't get out of
the first round. But it's just so much harder to

(18:31):
win in baseball. But yeah, the fact that the Eagles
have not only been there three times, they won twice.
In this latest thing, a police domination over a team
that people feared. People had gotten to the point where
they you can't beat this team. They just find a
way to wind your reasoning. Was the reason most people

(18:52):
thought that the Chiefs would win. They said, they always
find a way to win.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
The Eagles were better.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
There's nothing but I'm sitting there going to show me,
to just show me what the bills.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Go and show me. But in the history of Philadelphia sports,
most of.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
The teams we look back on that we cant our
champion teams. We always sit there and go, they should
have won more, Like the O eight two eleven Phillies,
They should have won more.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
The eight Phillies.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
The next year they were the best team in baseball,
and then the strike happened, and.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Then they didn't win.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
And then they went back to the World Series against
the Orioles in eighty three and they just whatever.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
We looked at the uh even the.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
Right right about the eighty three, like the eighty three
six years were the dominating team. They lost one playoff game. Yeah,
they in the first round the.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Next year, and and then you look at Andy's four
years where they were going to the NFC title game
every year and losing, and we just say that.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Team should have won more. This team has the chance
to win more.

Speaker 6 (19:51):
Now, Yeah, yeah, two two is sufficient. Anything beyond that
is is historic. Yes, win two in eight years. And
obviously some of the same players are on both of
those teams, not not a lot of Brandon Graham.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
They did it with a different coach and a different
quarterback and they had the big in the middle that
twenty twenty years where they just bottomed out and even
the next year wasn't great.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
But it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
The to me, this win puts the owners going to
the Hall of Fame because all over he win multiple
he's going. I think Halie Roseman how he has a
really good chance, especially if they win another one. But
what it does to Jalen Hurts may not be Allen,
he may not be lamar.

Speaker 6 (20:36):
In how people he's as good as any of them.
I don't care what the numbers say. I don't care
what the numbers say. Right, he wins the games, he rushes,
he does whatever.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Because he doesn't throw for four thousand yards and forty
two people people judge it.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Kyle exactly.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
I fell in love with Jalen Hurts when he was
a freshman at Bama and you the SEC offense player,
and he led his team down the field against Clemson,
they scored, he scored the touchdown, but he left two
minutes on the clock for Deshaun Watson. And then Deshaun
comes back. The next year, he gets benched for Tua
in the title game and.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
He accepts it. He can.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
I mean the way Jalen Hurts acted that next year
when Tua took the and then came off the bench
to beat Georgia.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
And yes, and I love I watched that and I said,
that guy love me. I love that dude.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
And again, can we pick on him because he doesn't
have personality and this and that.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
I don't work on him, this guy all along, but
people don't. I think people pick on him. They just
they don't understand sports, Mike. There's something about certain players
that they just have the it back. He's got it.
I love the fact that he had on his phone
for two years the Kansas City celebrate. He had forgotten it,

(21:54):
but he wanted it. And that that means something if
you're willing to put into work and obviously to get
better at your craft, and he's done all of that.
He's a legend in this town.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
In November and December, there were national people, there were
local people who were saying, the thing that's going to
hold the Eagles back is the coach and the quarterback. Okay,
I was listening to it. I'm like, no. I first
of all, I think sae Quan's going to, you know,
do what he does. And you know, but eventually, if
if Jalen has to do what.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
He does, he's going to do it. Yeah, that's you know,
it's going to do it.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
And again, if Carter doesn't sack Stafford on that third
and fourth play, we may never know because the Rams
might have won that game.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
But again they didn't.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
And then Jaalen was great against Washington, he was great
in the Super Bowl. And these people like Sirian he's
like fifty two and twenty.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
What are I getting here? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
I'm not saying he's Vince Lombardi. I'm not saying that.
But whatever they have him do well. He doesn't call
the place.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
I don't care. Mike Tomlin doesn't call the place.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Coaches that they tell me are these great coaches you
know them, don't I mean.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Andy might call it a place for the Chiefs. I
I don't know. And he's also one of the best
head coaches, right.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
But what I'm saying is why am I Look, I
don't know if Nick Syrian he's gonna win another time.
He's fifty two and twenty, he's a he's the third
best winning percentage I think in NFL history for a
guy that's coached.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
So he had a one horrible stretch of games he
did yeah and again.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
And I appreciate the fact that they didn't fire him,
and then they bought in the defensive coordinator that they
brought in, and they bought in Kellen.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Moore and and whatever.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
I mean, it's just you know, and then they're I
don't care if they're the favorite next year.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
I've seen things. They're in the mix. Somebody's gonna have
to beat them next year and good luck.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
I mean, they're definitely the team to beat in the NFC.
I mean not if you.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Look at the odds, Kyle, I mean that they're they're
even with the Lions.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
They're even with Yeah, that's a mistake. Yeah, I think
that's a mistake.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
But still even I mean the Super Bowl just solidify
and that they by definition or the team to beat
that year.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
You start zero and zero, you start over all, they're
going to be the Chiefs because everybody's going to give
them their best shot.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
But even before they won the Super Bowl this year,
I mean before the collapse last year, they were the
most all around best team. Now, whatever happened last year happened.
But then they came back and they proved that they
they got better than last year.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
They walked and they're still the best team.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
When they walked off the field against Buffalo last year
and one Jaalen was the MVP favorite. Now again, I
don't know what happened to the last six games.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
You know it happened.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
Nobody knows what happened to this day. Nobody has an
answer for that.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Now, I think I'm sorry to to just go along
the lines of Super Bowl hangovers are real and when
when you lose one, it's really tough to come back
the next season.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
It's a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Even though they were ten and one, there were a
lot of things saying like they were never really that good, but.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
They still won. They definitely won. Like the Chiefs this year.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
They just won and well and liked it.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
Might look the Chiefs when somebody finally punched back.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
But it took nineteen or twenty games for somebody to
do that finally.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
That is what a great the greatest quarterbacks of all
time does for you is I think he pulled them
out of a lot of bad situations. The Chiefs have
to look themselves in the mirror, go, we need to
be much better around our court.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
They know it like they have to know it well.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
They had a lot of noise and look at we
had a lot of noise off the field in the
middle of last season. Remember that there was like, oh yeah,
look at what a bunch of disagreements that.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
But the Bucks three years ago, four years ago, whenever
that was, they went and fixed their their problems. They're
not stupid. I mean, they have a great organization. The
Eagles have a great organization. They're going to go fix
it now. They might not be able to fix it
in time to win a championship next year.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
I don't know. But Mahomes is twenty eight or twenty
nine years old.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I just think Mahomes has masked a lot of problems
they had last year, and like now it finally caught
up to them that you need to do better around him.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Tune or what best wide receivers went down, didn't have
no year, not having received got hurt.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
He missed like ten games.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Andy lost his mind in the Super Bowl because he said, oh,
we're not going to run the ball.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
And Eagles defense had a lot like that. No, but
the Eagles defense had a lot to do with that. Yeah,
they dictated how the Chiefs. Oh, the just they suffocated him.
I mean it was just, hey, Dick, besides the line
next year, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
A couple of gambling, A couple of gambling thoughts. I'm sorry,
I'm before I get.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
I was just gonna say, you know, as we're looking
ahead here to next year, because the Super Bowl is over,
we can't celebrate anymore.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
We got to look hill next year.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
We can we can celebrate.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
We celebrate. I'm just messing.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
But yeah, as we were just looking here and looking
at the odds, I mean, outside of Detroit, who who
in the NFC would you put remotely close to the
Eagles in terms of San Francisco.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
San Francisco, if their players are healthy, they have the
same problem the Lions had this year, right, everybody was.
They also have a Super Bowl loss hangover, so I
think you can put a line through their season. They're
clearly better. The Rams, I thought by the end of
the year were a pretty good team, and I think
they proved it when they came in there played the
Eagles that well, Dallas, who knows what the new coach,

(27:15):
you know, I'm not buying that. Washington, right, Washington, if
they get a defense maybe uh, Minnesota I think was
most likely a one hit wonder. I'm not buying it.
Green Bay, I think, yeah, I think. I think Green
Bay is kind of I mean, they're very young, there

(27:35):
is some talent, they're they're world coached. I think they
potentially could be dangerous for that. For that, I don't
I don't see.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
A bunch of ifs, and this happens.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
If that happens, no solidified like that going to be
a team or two that we don't.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Nobody expect this year expected Washington, Green Bay had.

Speaker 6 (27:54):
Or Minnesota exactly.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Went the other way. They went sideways. So there will
be a TV.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
But the Eagles are going to be barring like an injury,
it'll be good.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
They're gonna be one of two.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Or three best teams in the NFC, if not the NFL, you.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
Would you would have to think so a couple of
gambling thoughts. Mike brought this up on the show last week.
The bet of the day on Sunday was, Jail Hurts
is the fv PI. Would you get better than three
to one? Mike three five three plus three seventy five and.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Or three seventy five and some so three.

Speaker 6 (28:31):
And a half to one. So basically, the Eagles were
to pick them to win the game. If they win
the game, Hurts is going to be the m v
P unless Barkley runs for three hundred yards and they
weren't go a let them up for three hundred yards.
That was all very predictable, all made sense. So that
was a great bed and you guys will love this.
So I was at sant Anita Sunday for the races
and then went across the street to a nice spot.

(28:53):
We hung out, watched the game, and one of the
guys I was with loved the Eagles, but he was
he wasn't gonna take even money and you know, get
point to half. He made the Eagles minus six and
a half and got three to one. Uh so, and
he was yea, his bet. He had cash his bet.
They were trying, they were trying to buy him out
at a half time, and we'll give you. We'll give

(29:13):
you eighty percent of your bet. He said, that'll fix.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
I had a now hold on this.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
I had a guy who laid nine and a half
because he told me they were gonna win by ten.
And then when I told him about the jail in bet,
he goes, my god, I should have made that bet instead,
because in the parla is, all I had to do
was because there was no way that Spags was not
stopping Saquon. I mean that just and then you're gonna say, okay,
but we got aj Brown over here, and we got

(29:39):
and the tight end didn't even do very much, which
I was a little surprised at.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
And Jailen what Jayalen does best. I still say this.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
There was three or four plays in that and where
he ran for like fifteen yards. But Dick said last week,
just break just break it, break it and just go
and he did and that proved Kansas City's back.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
It's also you bet a quarterback of plus three fifty
when he's the third shortest odds because I think the
defense was like the MVP of the game, Like the
defense won the game.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
But it's not always gonna go to the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
They're not gonna give a collective defensive MVP award, And
like Josh Wet maybe was close, but it's always gonna,
almost by default sometimes just go to the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
And Jim played a really good game too, so like
that helps on top of what did he say? But
it's most game.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Plus three fifty for a quarterback you have my guy
got three seventy five seventy Yeah, I saw that number
a few But again, what did Jalen do on the
podium after the game, What did you do yesterday?

Speaker 4 (30:35):
The defense was great?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
It's the first word out of his mouth, because you
know what, Jalen ain't stupid. Jaylen knows and he knows, Hey,
I played great and Sa Kuan was great all year,
but man, that defense, it was thirty four to nothing.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
In the thirds.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Me a Donovan Yeah, to a certain degree.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Donovan Donovan was okay sometimes but when things were bad,
he was quick to point fingers.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
There's a perfect quarterback for this team, for this city,
and you know what, we're.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Lucky to have him. Yeah, and I do so I'm one.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I think Jalen Hurts has a lot of flaws and
there there are things that he will never be able
to do on a football field, and that's why people
look at him some times ago. That's why he's not
that great. But the good thing is, though, when you
have an environment like this to create really good habits
that I think it's gonna almost be like Russell Wilson
and Tom Brady in the way that they actually got
better once they started to win because they got more

(31:36):
comfortable with who they were. The team got more comfortable
with knowing what what that kind of quarterback was and
what he does best. I honestly, I think Jalen hurts
best years are actually in front of them, not behind him,
as he is.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Likely going to get much.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Well.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
I think he's going to become a better passer because
again he but he is going to understand more of
what he likes.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
They never throw over the middle ever, and that's a
right exactly, so I don't know why they don't. I mean,
they feel crossing patterns a lot that work, but they
never and I don't care. And as long as you
have slow Sue ain't gonna run for two theat But
what if Saquan runs for fifteen hundred or sixteen hundred
next year, which.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
He might, why he's not going to run for tooth
that well.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
I just think it's hard to have two historical you.
That's hard to have.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
It's like it's like asking Otani to hit sixty two
home runs and then hit sixty two home runs. I mean,
you know, I'm not saying he's not gonna have a
great year.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
I'm just saying, why wouldn't he have a great year, because,
by the way, hurts for the people that are interested,
Hurts complete almost seventy percent of his passes.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Yeah, in both Super Bowls.

Speaker 6 (32:40):
I'm talking about for the whole season.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Oh right, right, right, right right, yes enough.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
And he probably had more throwaways than any quarterback at
the wait right, I mean yeah, put no turnovers you know,
which are to me, they're incompletions, but they're smart incompletions exactly.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
And we're the point of him getting better. Uh he's
twenty six old, still.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
They all are.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
And the thing is the threat of Jailen I'm telling
you make better because the fact that he may pull
the ball down even though he doesn't do it as
much anymore. Just you know, I mean this team, the
whole construction of this team, from getting Saquon, from signing
Bond to draft into two corners to the Georgia guys

(33:24):
deciding they're going to play now, whether they played because
they just got better or Fangio put them in better spots,
I have no idea. But the whole defensive line, the
whole defensive line is playing for contracts basically because they're
all but and and and the offensive line, I mean, god,
we take it for granted, how good they are.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
We take that for We take that for granted.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
We do.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
We haven't seen offensive line of the Chiefs have gotten.
But yeah, sorry, we gotta take a break.

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Speaker 6 (35:55):
Right? Yeah? I'm in State College, penn State, Washington today
at nude here.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Mike pat Battle for the Ages.

Speaker 6 (36:01):
Yeah, it's battle for Battle for last place, Mike. He
just said something that I've been in town. I've been
in town for forty years. You know what? I think?
I was hired on February fifteenth, nineteen eighty five, so
that makes it forty years ago today, Happy, happy Happy.
I think it was definitely mid It was definitely mid February.

(36:23):
I came up here to cover the New Garden State
Park which opened on April one of nineteen eighty five,
which just happened to be the night fill and it
would be Georgetown and rub Arena in Kentucky. I was
watching it wasn't the first running races.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Wasn't the first thing you did some big pull out
like on Garden State Opening.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
I thought you did, like.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
So yeah, I'm sure I did. Yeah, we did. Yes,
Stan Hotman would have been involved, Stan with covering horse
racing with me at the time. That was awesome. But
yeah years worth.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Hey forty your goal was to be on the radio.
How'd your granddaughter?

Speaker 6 (36:56):
Uh so was swimming at Franklin Marshall? What the one
hundred fly and fifty eight seventy four which just misses
personal best which is fifty eight to fifty nine, And
just set a personal best in one hundred freestyle fifty
five fifty two at Franklin and Marshall. Tenth grader at
the George School. So very fast swimmer. And yes, I

(37:19):
was watching it while I was talking to you guys
all my time, so I can double, I can multitask here.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
It's very impersonal.

Speaker 6 (37:26):
And I actually saw it live last night on my
way to State College. Oh, I got appear pretty late
last night. So a little more eagles, then some golf
and then we do the little college hoops and we'll
finished with some eagles, and I think maybe maybe the
last half an hour, guys, we discussed the greatest teams
in Philadelphia sports history, and we think where this team.

(37:47):
I know we already mentioned a little bit, but you know,
where does it?

Speaker 4 (37:50):
I've seen them all, Yeah, Mike, Mike.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
The most perspective for sure. And obviously to qualify you
have to have won the chance. If you can't be
a good team that didn't win, you must have won it.
No team is only teams won like this. Maybe the
eighty three sixers might have just one lost one playoff game,
which is pretty impressive.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Somebody bought up that the sixty seven six ers and
I don't want to, you know, lost a game five
at home and then had to go beat the Warriors.

Speaker 6 (38:20):
I brought it up, you brought up. I told you
that tea was they were. They had the best record
in NBA history for quite a long time with the team.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
This the other day too, because it will never get
you know again, the forty eight forty nine Eagles were great,
but that was a different world.

Speaker 6 (38:37):
Whatever, Who got no idea?

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Sixty Eagles are the.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Only team to beat Vince Lombardi in a playoff game.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
Actually the Colts beat him, but they cheated him.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
I know.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
I did.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
But again, and that team never gets tall. I mean again,
I'm not going to say they were better.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
You know, is this team or whatever, but that team
only well there was a twelve game season and so
it was a different world. But they beat the Packers
and it was the first time in the playoffs and
then you never lost again.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
And and she.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
Did he did well, he didn't do it was the
record field goal. Yeah, that's a that's a whole other story.
So Kyle, for you and you and John, uh, when
when you're watching the game, you start with you, Kyle,
when you're watching the game Sunday, when when did it
dawn on you that like the Chiefs have no chance?

(39:32):
When did you get since there it's just not.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
Happening for that Well, there there was two parts to
it one and I know most people will agree with
me on this. Like leg I alluded to in the
first segment, when they were up ten to nothing, they
were I was like, they need to me by more.
They're dominating all fats into the game, and then the
pick six happened.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
I was like, here we go.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
Another small part of the game was when Mahomes was
just desperately trying to get something going. He finally had
time to throw the ball. He was loading up to
go deep and just could not let go of the ball.
He could not get himself to release that ball, which
just tells me the Eagles were getting pressure on him

(40:13):
and were dominating in coverage, and at that point I knew, like,
they just have no answers for this Eagles defense. So
that's kind of a smaller part of the game that
I saw that I was like, Oh, this is this
is gonna be a difficult time for Kansas City. I
don't think they have any adjustments that can make up
for for how much they're getting dominated.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
John uh I, it was pretty early for me that
it was. I think the Cooponen won solidified. Like I mean,
I was so confident in the Eagles all playoffs long.
I was so confident into the game. So once I
started to see the first couple of drives for Kansas
City and realized that they they couldn't do anything, that
was that was like the sign for me that it

(40:53):
was over. But yeah, I think the Cooper to Gene
picked six that was that was one of the kind
of because I was confident, but hurts.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
Through that pick.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
I'm like, okay, you know that's a possession you should
have had some points on. But then immediately it's like
a three now for Kansas City Eagles get the ball
back and he got.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Pressure in his face. I mean yeah, that interception.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Oh definitely it was a blitz that got to him,
and I think he just he he just tried to
make something out of a play that probably should have
just been look, you got beat. They called the right play,
but it was the koopera gene pick six was the one.
Once they once they went up seventeen, nothing, you knew
the Chiefs had absolutely zero chance they scored the got
It was funny. I was at my Super Bowl prey

(41:30):
super Bowl party and I'm telling everyone's like, this is
the celebration ou at halftime like they just won the
game to sit.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Like oh no, no, no, it's only twenty four nothing Like
I know. If I was, it was like, there's no
jez this this is.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Time in my life or recently that I saw the
Patriots or the Chiefs get the ball to start the
second hilf and I didn't care. Yeah, like every time
the Patriots they did that, they scored the end of
the half, they get the kickoff and they go the
Chiefs same way like they when when the coin flip.
I said to my friend, I'm like, that's bad. The
Chiefs are going to get the ball in the second half.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Didn't matter, It didn't did.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
I felt bad for the announcers because they were trying
so hard to keep it interesting. It was like thirty
four and I remember Burtkhart or Brady or both of
them said, we know the Chiefs got to score here. No, no, no,
it doesn't make it. If they score here, it's done.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
Like they were trying to make it like, trying everything
in their willpower to not be like, oh, this game's over.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
I was saying.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
I was saying this to Dick last night. The only
part and it doesn't matter now. And it might not
have mattered. I wanted to see the Eagles play Detroit
because Detroit was the one team if they were healthy.
I think them and the Eagles were the two most
talented teams in the NFL. Oh yeah, if you just
look at the rosters, you say, this is what the
Chiefs can play defense. I mean the Lions can play defense.

(42:50):
Their offense that can match up with the Eagles offense.
Their line can match up with the Eagles line is
one a few teams in the league that even can
remotely say that.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
And we never got to see it.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
And that's okay, because you know, the Lions got hurt
and they got rolled by the Washington and then the
Eagles roll Washington.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
But and again, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
And I'm sure the Lions are going to sit there
all off season, which is why I think the first
game next year is going to be Detroit of Philadelphia.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Not that they be the same, they won't.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
Yeah, Mike, if you remember two weeks ago or three
weeks ago now, before the Championship games, I desperately said
I wanted the Eagles to play Kansas City. Uh, And
I remember you said, you know, it'd be better if
they played Buffalo. I wanted Kansas City because I knew
how motivational it would be for the team, and I
was convinced that they were better than Kansas City two

(43:37):
years ago. And I think Kansas City was better two
years ago than they are now. And I just but yeah,
when I watched their team this year, they were so fortunate.
I mean, Denver gets a field goal block at the buzzer.
That stuff is not going to happen forever. And whenever
you're a team like that, it's been so fortunate for
so long. And what happens to them early in that game,

(44:00):
you were going to Kate. I've seen it happen over
and over again in sports, when you were a bully
and you keep winning and all of a sudden, it's
like because the thing like we're invincible, Well, nobody's invincible,
especially when the other team's physically dominating you. And that's
exactly what happened in the game, and Kansas City gave up,
and they gave up early. You could see it on
their faces, you could see their body language. They didn't

(44:23):
even want to be there. They couldn't believe what was
happening to them, and there was absolutely nothing they could
do about it because they were in against the superior
force that was totally motivated because they were so angry
and what had happened two years before. They left that
field convinced they were the better team and they'll show it,
and they.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Used the buffalo. But again I get your point. Your
point is I was just sitting there going this team
hasn't lost. They figure out ways to win, but they face.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
And they don't make. If you don't sit has not made.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
They made so many little detail mistakes too that I'm like,
are we watched so many.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Think of fick what you just said about the bully,
and we see it in college football sometimes right the
team you can't lose the you know, Miami Ohio State
in two thousand and two, I.

Speaker 6 (45:10):
Was at Ohio State this year and State this year
against Michigan.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
You're right, right, right, but not the I'm talking about
when you get to the final.

Speaker 6 (45:19):
I think the two.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Twenty thirteen Denver Broncos Peyton Manning throws fifty five TVs.
They averaged I looked up thirty seven point nine or seven.
They averaged average more. They had one hundred and twenty
more points than the Bears, who were like.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
The second team.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
But anyway, they got crushed in that Super Bowl they
got Then two years later you have Cam Newton, he's
the NBA.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
They lost one game.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
The Denver defense just said, yeah, you know, it ain't happening,
and you're right, there are sometimes you get in and
I underestimated.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
I think obviously I did.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
The the holdover from two years ago because I think
I knew it.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
I'm gonna be I knew it.

Speaker 6 (46:03):
Burn hurts, It hurts, hurts, was never did it.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
I don't think there was a team in the NFL
other than, like I said, a fully healthy or relatively
healthy maybe Detroit. There wasn't a team in the NFL.
And and look, the Rams almost beat them. Give the
Rams a lot.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Of credit, a ton of credit of credit, the staff.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Them, Washington wasn't beating them.

Speaker 6 (46:27):
And Kansas City, and the most importantly Kansas City wasn't
gonna beat him. That was the one team they were
gonna maul them, just because they I'm telling you, we've
watched it in sports forever and they had never forgot
that when they walked off that field. I mean, some
of those players that you know, and that that makes
up for it. It can't change it, right, you can't

(46:48):
change it. You can't have that one back. But look I.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Watched that they got it back.

Speaker 6 (46:53):
They got they did, they undred percent did. And I
think they proved what I thought was true two years
ago that they had the better team, and they clearly
proved it in Kansas City just when they got behind.
And again it happens to the teams all the time.
But they first of all, they can't score enough. If
you look at Mahomes numbers this year, they're pretty pedestrian.
That was a pedestrian. It wasn't very good.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Actually, statistically not a bad year.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
It's actually a really good year, but in terms of
compared to his past season, it's by far play a
different way they didn't have yet.

Speaker 6 (47:25):
But again, he was just average this year, except in
big moments when he was great.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
The Eagles went to Baltimore in December and one by
twenty after spotting.

Speaker 6 (47:36):
Boar Cincinnati and one you know one, and.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Yeah they won.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
I mean, but again, if you think Baltimore was one
of those teams that could have got to the Super Bowl,
which you know they could have, the Eagles.

Speaker 6 (47:49):
Told you that those games, Yeah, those games told the stories.
When they went on the road against LA and Barkley
went nuts, went to Cincinnati and shut out Joe Burrow
which is hard to do, and went to Baltimore and
won as impressively as they did. That was the story
and they were getting The other thing I think people
didn't pick up on is they were so much better
by December and January than they.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
Were in September, and yes, it was just a.

Speaker 6 (48:13):
Completely different team. And again that's people have a tendency
to evaluate an entire season rather than the part of
the season it really matters, which.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Is the Super Bowls. You don't win super Bowls on
November and.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
That's that's I'm just so surprised that it took people
so long to catch on to the fact.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
That the Eagles were because everything was pointing.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
It's almost like the same way last year of like
we probably should have expected them to collapse because the way.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
It was going, we thought they were pretty good.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Yeah, good, good, I think Eagles, But there was a
lot there was there were still a lot of reservations
about them.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
Throughout the year.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
It was so evidently clear that they were by far
the best team in the league. Like they were, they
were that good, and there were so many things to
prove it. And I was trying to scream into the
rooftops like this is the team, because I mean, it
was hard to argue against it.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
But people found away, Like you said, they the number
one defense, they have the best offensive line, they have
the best running back. So who do they point the
fingers at the quarterback? He's gonna hold this team back.
He's a reason why they're not going to be a
super Bowl. It's like they tried to find away for
them to not be.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
People talk about football, because that is exactly it, because
every single time we get to a game and one
team's clearly better than the other, every time it'll be like,
but who has the best coaching quarterback? That doesn't mean anything,
Like you need a good coach, and I think Nick
Sirian is a good coach, and you need a good quarterback,
and I think Jalen Hurts a good quarterback. But yeah,
like the Sirianni Hurts combo isn't as great as the
Reid Mahomes combo. But the other like fifty something people

(49:37):
that impact a game are clearly much better domin just
like it's so so overwhelmingly better than their opponent.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
At the Eagles two years ago.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
I mean, if I went they were good roster two
years ago, they.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Were good, and I think and I think the Chiefs
are a lot but because Mahomes had an MVP year
that year, so the Chiefs are a lot better. But
this team, to me, that was the best defense in football.
It was a championship level defense and they still had
As you just said, there're no Why are just good?

Speaker 3 (50:12):
It's very simple when it goes back to Andy Reid.
There are two lines are better than the other team's
two lines, and if you own the line.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
Of scrimmage, if you win.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
What would be the equivalent in basketball, Dick like having
a senior point guard that's been I mean, I don't
know is there an equivalent in basketball?

Speaker 6 (50:31):
Not really? Yeah, it's completely different because it's such a
physical Football is so much more of a physical game
where you could just literally beat up your opponent. I
mean yeah, how many times have we seen in college football, specifically,
where there's some really good little team that runs up
total points and then all of a sudden the quarterback
got sacked at the eight times because they can't protect
them when the big boys show up. I just I

(50:55):
found the whole, the whole hurts thing most fascinating. Let's
think about this or second before we get to a break.
So Herts two years ago, right when he probably had
Mike said, would have been the MVP had he got
missed some games late in the season. He was an
offensive savant, right, I mean they were running up and
down the field, they put up huge numbers. I don't

(51:16):
remember what his touchdown numbers were in yardage, but they
were huge, right, big big numbers. And he put up
a huge number in the Super Bowl. Huge number. Then
last year, I don't know what in the hell was
going on. All of a sudden, he starts turning it over.
They look like they've never played football before. They looked
like the worst team in the league. And then at
the beginning of this year it was the same, Right,

(51:37):
what are they doing. They're throwing the fumbling, they're throwing interceptions.
And then after that buy and that's that's another story
that's to me still hasn't been written exactly like I'd
like to read it. What in the hell happened between
the Tampa game and the guy was in Cleveland two
weeks later and the rest of it were the But no,
they didn't. But what they did was they completely right.

(51:58):
They revamped the way they were doing things. They said,
you know what, we think we might have a good
defense here. We have a we have a legendary running back.
We're just going to control the ball and we're going
to start beating teams up and and from that point on,
what it Hurts have two turnovers the rest of the year.
I mean, it was crazy. He didn't he stopped fumbling.

(52:20):
He just made smart, one smart decision after another. And
then in the biggest moment, when the other team said,
all right, that's it, Mike said, we're not lett, Barkley
go nuts here. Uh. He just started throwing bombs all
over the all over the field, and A J. Brown
and Devonte Smith are open, and all of a sudden,
Jahan Dotson is running behind everybody. Barkley's opened down the

(52:40):
NIS sideline. I mean he was and he didn't miss
Did he miss a throw someday? I mean I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
I think him and A J.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
Brown had a miscommunication and there was interception. He overthrew
somebody right the.

Speaker 6 (52:55):
One interception and the interception he got hit on was
that's probably why that happened. He was he was brilliant.
And that's the second time he's played against Mahomes on
the Super Bowl and he was better both picks.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
By the way, his five four of us five interceptions
were in the first three weeks of the season.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
When they were two and two and we sat here,
look at their stratus, I said, and you get I said,
they're probably going to be six and two. I said
they might be five and three, but they're probably going
to be six and two because they had the giants
they had the Cincinnati might have been the eighth the
fourth game of that Jacksonville Jacksonville, and they almost they
could have lost that game. They played banning in some

(53:36):
bad teams. But once they hit stride, like around week
eight or week nine or week ten, whatever that would
have been, they just kept getting better.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
And I mean it was like, you know, they really
it's like.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
You said, Dick, I mean Detroit the first half a
year before the they were the best team.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
But you don't have to be the best team.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
The first Phillies were the best team in baseball last
year for the first two months of the season.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
There's no doubt about it.

Speaker 6 (54:02):
They were. Then they weren't, and they weren't so at
the end at the end of the year if they
were not in the best dade.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
But again, this is just it's it's a magical year.
You might who knows if you're gonna have another year.
I don't, you know, I don't have a crystal ball
or anything, but man, they're set up and I know
we're going to talk about that, you know, in the
last segment. But they're set up to be a factor
for a while.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
All right, Yeah, Mike, I gotta read. We got you
on golf. Where are they this week at the Genesis then?

Speaker 3 (54:33):
And uh.

Speaker 6 (54:36):
L a is that the one they moved it? Okay,
Tory Podge Ye right, So I gotta I gotta read
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Speaker 4 (57:34):
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Speaker 3 (57:35):
Young guys. Get the meaning of the mcfaden and Whitehead song.
There it went right.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Over your head, I think, so, yeah, that was the
ain't no stopping us now.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Yeah, but one of the years the Eagles did something
I'm not sure if it was eighty, might have been eighty,
but that was that was like they're they're.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Kind of like, oh, they had a themes like we
are family for the seventy nine Pirates when they won
the World Service where we are dancing on my own
for the Phillies. Yeah, that's whatever. Butt that was bad
in them, whitehead.

Speaker 6 (58:01):
So god, what do we got?

Speaker 4 (58:05):
You got? You got Scottie Scheffler trends is what you got?

Speaker 6 (58:08):
You got? You got?

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Now I'm here, Dylan Toms, some guy named Dylan Thompson,
and I apologize.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
I should know is winning by one scottober.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Scotty uh Rory Rory is two more back and our
boy Ludwig is three more backs. So when you go,
when you go to the betting, you got Scottie at
even money, which I can't bet. But again, if you know,
if you could, you could be a seriously sick person

(58:38):
and lay the twelve to one and bet them to
finish in the top five, or you could lay eighty
to one for a top ten, So you could bet
eighty thousand dollars to win a thousand and you'll probably
touch that.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
But no, that r right now.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
I would say, I don't think anybody else can win
this thing, besides those guys I just mentioned.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
But Ludwig is twelve, Rory three Ri's, Rory's three sixty,
but he won two weeks ago at Pebbles.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Kind of tough to win. I'm gonna go with Ludig
at twelve and Scott you'll probably win. You know, do
you think at Berg? I think I pronounce it whatever.

Speaker 6 (59:21):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
If whoever's telegar in this, I'm not sure if it's CBS, NBC, whatever.
You think they're rooting for Scotty Rory to be in
the final.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
Parent god, yeah, I think yeah. They were very happy early.
They were happy last week when Tiger announced he was
going to play, and of course his mom died so
he's not playing. But yeah, yeah, they would like to
have like that Scottie and Rory in the park.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
By the way, let me say something real quick about
missus Catulda.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
I think I might. I hope I'm not pronouncing it right.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Tiger's dad obviously, we all know how Tiger's dad the
tough love and you know he took Tiger, you know whatever.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
He helped shape tag good ambition. You know there was
there too. But his mom was the rock.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
His mom was the one that gave him that when
you're up five, I want you to be up ten,
the semple in the throat mentality wear the red shirt
on Sunday because it was a sign of power I
think in her religion or her so anyway, she she
played as much of a role in Tiger's development to
what he became. His father had more to do with

(01:00:29):
the golf side, I'm sure, obviously, and I don't think
we should ever lose sight of that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
What both parents meant to him, you know, and he.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Was either the greatest golfer or the second greatest golfer
is probably a tie.

Speaker 6 (01:00:42):
But you know, yea in the hunt for in the
Hunt and all golf Mount rushmoreris So College College hoops
will get the volotu of in a minute. They'll be
on the station tonight at six o'clock at Providence after
their whenever saying Johnes the other night you win who

(01:01:02):
who knows who is in first place in the Atlantic
ten oh so he's paying attention here, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Man trivia trivia already.

Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
Don't look it up. Don't look at up.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
One asked us the question, Yeah, right, does somebody have
a guess?

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
I was going to say Dayton Button and it's not
Saint Bonadventure.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
I don't think because I don't think they were having
as good Jose.

Speaker 6 (01:01:30):
Saint Jose is playing at this team today? Wow? And
then this team is located in Fairfax, Virginia. George Mason,
George Mason, George Mason leads the Atlantic ten former player
Tony Tony's skin former. He was a player on their

(01:01:54):
final fourteen one. They got to the final four from Washington,
DC with Jim Laerne. George Mason four and a half
over the Hawks today, Which are you know, just lingering
sort of around and have more talent better talent than
their record. I don't. I can't figure them out anyway.
That's a twelve thirty one o'clock.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Yeah, okay, you're getting your college.

Speaker 6 (01:02:17):
They go, Yeah, here's another question. Purdue minus five and
a half at home against Wisconsin. Wisconsin is on the
verge of setting an all time record, and what statistics see,
who's paying attention all time record college basketball Wisconsin field
goal percentage, free throw percentage eighty five percent, eighty five percent. Insane, insane.

(01:02:46):
Two o'clock Houston minus won one and a half at
Arizona for the top of the Big twelve game.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
What a game.

Speaker 6 (01:02:55):
I'll mention it just because I'm doing it. Penn State
minus five and eighth over Washington. Let's google on UH four.
I can't believe what's happening to my guys, but maybe
they'll find a way to win today. By the way,
it is anybody who Washington star player is. See great Osiborg.

(01:03:16):
Great Osiborg who played for the Washington coach at Montana
State and then at Utah State. UH four o'clock. The
game of the day, maybe the game of the year.
The Iron Bowl is being played in Hustlelusive today. Number
two Alabama minus two over number one Auburn. Charles Barkley

(01:03:37):
has to be there, but I think he's at the
NBA All Star Game, so he campaign. But I've got
that for a game. Number one, number two Alabama Auburn
really four o'clock. UH six o'clock one our air Nova
minus two and a half at Providence. They now have
two very good wins at home Yukon at home Saint John.

(01:04:00):
I would still say they're not really in the hunt
for an Encia did but couldn't make that ron if
they keep winning games. This game would scare the hell
out of me if I'm a fan. They just spent
two days celebrating. Providence is a hard place to play
in their in best of circumstances. Mike didn't didn't They
barely beat them here? Yes, yes, the Providence is struggle. Yeah,

(01:04:23):
Providence is struggling at the moment, but who knows. And
then finally, at eight o'clock the night, Illinois minus six
and a half over a reeling Michigan State team, which
was kind of a fraud anyway. They just front loaded
their schedule with all the weaker teams in the Big Ten.
Now they're starting to play the better teams.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
I gotta tell you, I looked because I haven't really
been paying attention to college basketball.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
With was his number eight in the country.

Speaker 6 (01:04:52):
Having a great year. Yeah, it's funny that that team
two years ago I saw them in Des Moines when
Penn State ran them out of the gym, and in
same tournament they had a freshman point guard they waited
for you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
Yeah, with Buzz, and they were favored in the game,
they were the higher seed and Jalen Pickett just annihilated
because Jaleen Picket was phenomenal. And Wade Taylor he just
looked like, oh my god, this is brutal. You didn't
know what to do. He was like three for seventeen.
And the kid has come back and had two phenomenal
seats that he's a really really good player at Texas

(01:05:23):
A and M. Buzz And for the people that don't
know this, yes, Texas A and M is in fact
that the SEC, along with every other good basketball team
and college basketball, it seems like the whole league. I
think their record against the ACC and the Big Twelve
this year is like forty and five. Uh, the SEC.
That's how that's how good the league is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
John guy before we get the John, I would be
remiss if I mentioned Penn and our Stevie. Don Wie's
one of the really good guys on the face of
the earth. Right they go up there Land. They're having
a tough year and they've had some tough years. They've
got the Yale last Yale's leading the.

Speaker 6 (01:05:59):
Eye undefeated in the.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
With eight seconds four seconds.

Speaker 6 (01:06:05):
To go, one point loss in New Haven, and they
had lost to Princeton by two the week before and
they haven't been Princeton in years. Yeah, just really unfortunate
what's happening. And keep in mind that his best, one
of his best players, just made the winning shot for
Villanova against Saint Johs. Tyler Perkins. You'd be a sophomore
at ten Clark Slacker is playing his fourth season of

(01:06:29):
college basketball at USC. He should be at Penn. Last year.
Of course, he had the league scorer in the country
who played his last year at Saint John's. So when
when they're raiding the IVY League and they are, uh,
and you're in real trouble. And unfortunately that's what's happened Penn.
They just thought the players that they recruited are no
longer there and they can't. Obviously Penn is not going
into the portal. The Coppy League doesn't have that same opportunity,

(01:06:53):
So now there's no scholarships, none of that. Yes, it's
just it's is going to get harder and harder for it.
You know, like, look, Yale's best player from last year's
at Michigan. Danny Walls, right, that's fair. So and they're
still on defeater. That's a good that's a good day. So, John,
your thoughts as we get now we're going to just

(01:07:14):
start discussing this. It's hard to believe. We're in mid February,
so we're a month away from so much of the
time to lock. Yeah, so what what do you? What
are your thoughts on the college you' scene, specifically you're
Villanova Wildcats.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
Villanova still has a lot of work to do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
I think Mike curR and I were talking about this
during the break that, like the the opportunity is now open,
like there there's a window open for them to potentially
get there with the Saint John's win. But it's games
like this that you have to You have to string
wins together. You can't have a letdown spot anymore. You've
already had too many letdown spots, especially in non conference
play when it was set up for you to win

(01:07:49):
a lot of games and you had letdowns. You can't
do it anymore. So they got to string together wins.
So this is a really big, a huge game, just
as big as the Saint John's won. You have to
be provident, like you you have to.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
Be this team.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
Yeah, I mean, is that really concerning you that they're
only three point favorite a little bit?

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Yeah, that Villanova, Yeah, they're they're not, But I do
like that there. There does seem to be a couple
of players catching on very well. Uh, Tyler Perkins, as
you just mentioned, he's been very good for them in
the end of the game winning shot. Woga Poplar is
an incredible athlete. He's having a really good game. And

(01:08:24):
he was one that because he was a transfer from Miami,
a lot of people liked him, but it took some time,
but he was the one that if he did get better,
if he was really good like Villanova, probably had a
shot to make the tournament. And I think it's finally
happening that Woga Poplar is becoming that kind of player
for them. And then you added Lotino has been solid
for him at Eric Dixon's obviously one of the best
players in the country.

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
There does seem to be a team.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
There weren't always trust him at the end of games,
which is why they get the end of game the
other night.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
Love it, Dick.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
You've always told me that when it comes to making
the tournament when they judge you good wins outweigh bad losses,
and this team's certainly had some bad losses. Is that
the cast for them that if they come down stretch
and you get a couple of good wins, it could.

Speaker 6 (01:09:07):
I mean, here's yeah, here's their problem, Mike. They have
nothing in the non conference, right, The only big non
con win they have is ever Cincinnati, which is right
they think, So that's not really helping you. And you
talk of bad losses. You lose to Columbia, which is
at the bottom of the IVY. You lose the Virginia,
which is, you know, not very good this year. The

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only good loss they have is the Maryland. By point,
Maryland's playing great, you know, they're they're I mean, they're
really playing well. I don't know if anybody's. That's just
as Derek Queen, the freshman star. But this kid's out
of the player. If I would think he'd be a
lottery thing, he's really good. Here's the biggest problem I have. Look,
I've never been a fan of the tournament committee because
they just don't have basketball people on here. They have

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conference commissioners and athletic directors, and you know they should have.
You should have one an odds maker. They should have
former coaches, former players. Uh, they just have the wrong
people in the committee and they don't have judge what
they're looking at. So Villanova's problem is very similar to
a lot of teams. It's been way better now right
in mid February than they were in mid November because

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they have all these you mentioned Poplar, they have these
players who are not Perkins, who are not in the program. Well,
they're going to get better. You can't judge teams anymore,
but they still do off what happened in November stupid.
Judge them by like what they're what they are now,
and right now bonov is a pretty good team. But yeah,
they're gonna have to keep winning because they have zero

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margin for eric because of what happened in November December.
It's unfortunate because right now when I watch them play,
I like how they played. Look, I thought Saint John's
had that game one a couple of times in second
half and Bonanova just hung in long enough to get
one final shot to win it. But I'm concerned that
they're not going to make it because of what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
Early favor whatever, which I think is whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
But Villanova you said that has lost games like this
where you sit there, but they I mean the only
game that they have left. Uh, did I think Marquette
comes here, They're obviously not going to be favored.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
Did they still get.

Speaker 6 (01:11:12):
Yeah, they're at Yukon.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
A game or two before the tournament starts. They can't
lose this game. You just can't.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
You can't. Look at their overall record. Yeah, look at
their overall record. It's not it's not very good. That's
that's their issue. And look, the Big East is not
looked at as a top league. The top of the
league is really good, right like Yukon, Saint John's, Creighton,
Marquette are very good all tournament teams for sure, But
after that the league is pretty soft. There's is not

(01:11:42):
a lot there. Right when you beat the Paul or
you beat Butler, nobody's going to care that you beat
these teams. There's not helping you so that you know
they they had their chances. But yeah, it's just the
shame because again they're much better now. Uh. And then
they have the whole coaching situation. Might said this to you,
but I'm watching the game the other metal and and

(01:12:03):
they've gone along and they're playing pretty well and they
got a nice lead. It's getting late in the first
half and Saint Johns has made a bunch of threes,
which they never make. The thought I was got control
of the game, and my man Kyle gets a technical
What do you for? What what are you doing? You know,
over a call that they had they got right. It's like,
you can't. You can't do that at this stage. You're
fighting for your job here, you know. And it turned

(01:12:24):
out at one point I think Saint John's made one
up two. It turned out it didn't make a difference,
but it could have. He just that's that's my biggest
concern when I watch him. Coach.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
I no, but you just made the point.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
He's young and he's fighting for his job and he
knows that that's right. He came out after the game
and look, I can appreciate everything. He said, we're a
big time team. Well no, you're not, but.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
Team but and I understand what he was trying to say.
I did, But you're right, Dick, just just like coach
your guys, you know, trying not to get your.

Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
And I'm watching the game and Paul Zels, who I know,
well was the referee and you're standing right in front
of Kyle and Paul used had one of the short
fuses of any referee in the country. He was brutal,
and he gave him like five seconds to calm down,
and he wouldn't call down. Finally calls a team. You
on him. You just and again, if you're fighting for
your job, you have a new athletic director, you have

(01:13:23):
the money guys who were not happy at all at
Thelova and they're seeing this. It's just not helping you.
You just just coach your team. Don't get into all
this superfluous, silly stuff that's not going to help you
win game.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Thinking, Dick, you're one of your favorite lines. Let your
guys play, Let your players play. Just don't don't ask
me why I just thought this. Nick Sirianni let his players, right,
He just says, yeah, don't out there. We're king working too,
We're going for it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:56):
Yeah that's right, Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
It's amazing, it is amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
It's just a phenomenal thing.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
Yeah, if makes the tournament, let's say the coach.

Speaker 6 (01:14:08):
Has to come back, right, I would think so. Yeah,
I don't know what his contract situation is, Mike, I
don't know how many years he signed for maybe, but
he might have a yeah, this is his third year. Here.
Here's here's the problem. Dixon is gone, Poplar is gone.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:14:26):
You know, I think they have signed one recruit. You know,
who knows who else is going to leave? Uh? They
just the future to me because of this ni L
and transfer portal. It's so hard to do anything anymore.
Now they have money, right, they will get nil. Money
had gone over. The question is will the money people

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out there support this coach and the staff. That's really
what this is going to come down to. I don't
doubt that the administration, at least the president would like
that and come back. I don't even I don't know
not think about the new ad. So I don't know
what is I don't know what his status is. I
don't even know if he's a factor and who gets
the job because you know, when when Jay Wright was hired,
the athletic director was there at the time, had nothing

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to do with him getting hired. The money people are
They fired Lapis and they got Jay Wright turned up.
The money people got it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
Right, Dick.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Would it be fair to say if they don't make
the tournament, that he's probably not back.

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
They are gone, He's gone.

Speaker 6 (01:15:22):
Yeah, it looks like if they let's say they go
up there today and have twenty Turner's a look terrible
against Providence, then then whatever happened against Saint John's is
completely irrelevant. Yeah, you're right, it's just not helping them.
And look, I think the money people out there, from
what I am hearing, would like to get a new coach.
And I'm not sure the president agrees with that. But again,

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the president, he might think he's a factor, but he's
really ho. I wonder if that the way this works anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
I wonder what Jay thinks. And I don't know if
Jay like how much influence. I'm sure Jay had some
influence in Kyle getting the.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
Job, no doubt, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Now, you know, three years removed, I think Jay's still
a very very very important person.

Speaker 6 (01:16:06):
And yeah, and Mark Jackson hired and Mark Jackson's now
at Northwestern, and Mark Jackson hired him because he knew
Kyle so well from being on Jay's staffs when they
won national titles, So that was that was the reason
he got hired. So I mean It's a fascinating situation
because right now he's kind of in no man's land,

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right is he going to make it? Is he not
going to make it? You're right, Mike. If they do
make it, it's going to be much harder to fire.
There's no doubt. And I'm not one hundred percent sure
what this job is at the moment, given the nature
of the sport. But Dollanova's still got a greak. It's
got a great name in the sport. It wasn't you know.
It's twenty sixteen. In twenty eighteen they won titles and

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they weren't a final four again a couple two years ago,
so three years ago, so it's not like they're far
removed from being one of the national brands. So I
think it's very appealing to a big name coach. It's
just a question of what they what they want to
do out there.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Can we agree that when they when they hired Kyle,
you almost had to hire somebody with Villanova tie at
that point only because of all the things.

Speaker 6 (01:17:12):
Yeah, done makes sense. Sure, Why wouldn't you want to
have somebody associated with all the success? It makes perfect sense,
And he did a good job in his one year
fed him. But yea, his final legend and then the
whole sport changed overnight. Ready walks in, Oh, by the way,
your best player, you know, he might go. He might
go to you know, somewhere else because they're paying them

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more month. You're going, what what do you mean paying
a month?

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
Do you think Jay Wright? You think Jay Wright knew
that when Jay Wright decided.

Speaker 6 (01:17:41):
Why you got smartest guy. He's smartest guy in basketball? Yeah,
doesn't mean look at the team he took to.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
The final four and twenty two.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
They had the guard had been there forever, right, A
couple of guys have been and I still say, if
the one guard doesn't get hurt, they might have made
the title game. You mean they had a shot they
you know, but he had those that Jay loved those
teams where he had guys together for a while. He
loved that because you.

Speaker 6 (01:18:10):
Know, no more, no different world. Shame. What did you
use all the.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Time at the NC Double A Tournament? I think you
told me this a couple of years ago with Purdue.
You said, Mike, look at who they got. They got
a senior backcourt, like two kids who've been there like
four years. That team can win games, and you know
they do.

Speaker 6 (01:18:31):
Yeah, yeah, all right, I got to read the deal out.
We'll come to a break and maybe we spend a
last time today trying to put this Eagles team in
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like you and I have our opinions, but we've been

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Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
If if you're an Eagle fan, ye, and you think
they're going to win next year or you think they
have a pretty I go out and bet them right
now because that number is.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
Gonna come down.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Yeah, one of my but because I there's seven to one, right, Yeah,
Hert's had a good year this year, but I still
think there was a lot of you know, figuring out
stuff from last year.

Speaker 6 (01:22:04):
All that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
I like, Hurts to an MVP, Yeah, he's down there.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
I don't I know, only because I just if is
gonna gets another great year, which I have no reason
to believe Sakuan was seven.

Speaker 4 (01:22:16):
If there's gonna be both. But if the.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Eagles are seven to one, I think they're the favorite
in the NFC. Somebody's got to beat them. Somebody's got
to show me that there's three to one in the
NFC is a no no. But I'm saying bet them
to win the Super Bowl. They get to the Super Bowl,
take your shot, right, I mean, I don't know. I'm
just saying yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:22:34):
I mean, if they're three to one in the NFC
and then Hurts is like twenty to one at m
v P, I would I agree with j if they
get the home field.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
There's one thing I've learned as a Philadelphia fan. I
guess we're gonna talk about this. It's when the Eagles
have the home field, they're pretty now, Andy, they didn't.
They blew a couple of NFC title games when they
had the home field but a couple. But they've been
in the last in the playoffs, and their road record
hasn't been real great, and they've lost three straight on
the road in five of seven, but at home they

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don't lose.

Speaker 6 (01:23:05):
Yeah, you know, So here's here's a question for John
and Kyle. Put it in perspective. Where's this eCos team
rank over teams you've seen since you guys have.

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
Been around NFL or just all four.

Speaker 6 (01:23:16):
Man, just tele it off your sports.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
I'll start off here.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
I mean, and it's a shame that I got to
say this because they ultimately disappointed. But the twenty eleven Phillies,
I mean that team talk about connected on all facets.
I mean, that's one of the best starting rotations I've
ever witnessed in my life. They had their their core
players from the A team, plus you had Polanco, you

(01:23:41):
had Hunter Pence, Their bullpen was still lights out, you
still had Lids, you still had Matson. They had everything,
and ultimately, like I ultimately, like I said, I hate
to bring it up because we all know how that ended.
But when you just look at pure talent on a team,
that's a team that I put in the top along
with this Eagles team.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
That's a good one. The four Eagles also were fantastic.
Like Teo was the Saquon Barkley of that that team,
like you bring in the.

Speaker 4 (01:24:12):
Only lost one game too, because the two day lost was.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
When they weren't trying to Yeah, that was a dominant team,
and the Super Bowl is what it was. You lost
to the Patriots. They were a great team. But that
that team, to me, was one of the best. But
this is I mean, this is likely the best team
that I've ever seen start to finish. The twenty two
team as well, they broke a lot more records, I
would say, just individual like single season records.

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
They broke a lot more with sacks and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Jalen Hurts it a phenomenal year, probably the best year
of an Eagles quarterback ever in the history of the franchise.
So I think that team probably deserves some recognition as well.
But the way this defense was and the offense to
pair with it, and you had this great year of
Saquon Barkley, this probably is the best team I personally,
And of.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
Course you know we're speaking from from the younger generation,
so Okay, we're speaking basically from like two thousands, from two.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
Thousand all, so we can't put I wouldn't put the
two thousand and one six ers up there just because that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:09):
Was all Allen.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
It was a bad team that had ivers. Yeah they
were a good team. Yeah, they finished with the best
record in that one game behind. I just didn't like
it wasn't And the Lakers were great, like, yeah, they
were dominant.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
And then you have the eight Phillies.

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
Were a great team, but uh, I mean talent wise,
I would still put these other teams up, you know,
the O eight Phillies.

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
Two things.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
First of all, the eleven team you're talking about at
the end, they weren't hitting. Yeah they hit the offense
completely whatever, but they they which was unbelievable. The eight team,
if I have these numbers, I'm pretty sure they're right,
won twenty three of their last thirty games.

Speaker 6 (01:25:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Now, I know they didn't play the Red Sox and
they didn't play I believe it was the Cubs that
year that were the other good team.

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
They won twenty three in their last thirty games.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
Yeah, and I will say this to Dick if that night,
because I think to be one of the great teams
you have to win the championship.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
That that's just me and I think I was speaking
just from a pure talent.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
I think the seventeen team is going to be right,
seventeen team is going to be underrated because of this team.
I get all, I get all that, But that team
was a great teacher, the ninety three Phillies. If the
ninety three Phillies had been able to finish that off,
I think they would have went down. Maybe they didn't
have the most talent. I'm not saying they did, but

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that whole mining that year, that was a great year.
That was a That's why you're standing.

Speaker 6 (01:26:30):
Right. They're similar to the one six Ers and ninety
three Phillies, which she very similar and lost lost at
the very end. Unfortunately. Uh the Sixers were just beat
up by the time they got to the NBA Finals.
I just were. They just weren't the same team that
they had been and opposite, the Lakers had the Kobe
Shack and they were in the middle of of a
wild run.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
You know, do you think actually the a team I
think we underrat a little bit the eight Phillies just
because it was it was the beginning of it, and
maybe they weren't the.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
They weren't supposed They weren't supposed to win that year.
They weren't that's gonna be. They weren't supposed to.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
But you look back on it, like Ryan Howard had
a phenomenal year, Chase Utley had an even better year,
Jimmy Rollins still really good.

Speaker 4 (01:27:10):
Patar had a great year, Seane Victorina.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
They had no Jason Worth was like an amazing baseball
had no pitchers. The pitching Hamils wasn't Hamills yet.

Speaker 5 (01:27:19):
But they did a good They did a great job
at the at the trade deadline, I mean getting match.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
I see a great lineup with a great top rotation
with Cole Hamil's leaving at least like Cole Hamilton what
you've been in, Brad Linton, Brian mat.

Speaker 6 (01:27:34):
I think Hamill's was the MVP of the World Series,
by the way.

Speaker 4 (01:27:37):
I believe it was. They just had nobody behind him. Yeah,
it was Jamie Moyer and Joe Blanton that.

Speaker 6 (01:27:42):
Were the eleven team. But the eleven team is Kyle
said they were way better. There's no argument your nineteen
was better.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
We never talked about the nineteen right because since the
Reds in the mid sevenies. I think I have this correct.
They're the only team that went back from the National
League to a World Series the next year. I'm pretty
sure there might have been. And they played the Yankees
the one year that Alex Rodriguez decided to show up
in the playoffs, and if they would have forced the

(01:28:10):
Game seven, you know, they would have had what's his
name going in Lee I think would have been going
in Game seven. Yeah, but again they lost to a really,
really good Yankees team, and I think that team was
really good.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
But they didn't win so bad.

Speaker 6 (01:28:23):
They were good. So my thought is that the best
game in my time in this town. And it started
obviously I got here forty years ago. I don't think,
in my mind, not even close. It's this Eagles team.
And when you think about how they finished the season, right,
if you're in the NFC Championship game, you put up
fifty five, and then you get to the Super Bowl

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and you're taking on the two time defending champs going
for the first ever three peat, and you're ahead thirty
four to mil I mean, it was total domination. These
games are supposed to be close, they're supposed to be competitive,
and they were not. And I've always said, and people
get gotten this run of that sports forever they go
and this is a great team, they always win the

(01:29:05):
close games. The great teams are never in those games
they pound people. I mean Mike mentioned earlier, like the
great forty nine ers teams that because they did Somebody's
Denver fifty five to ten in the Super Bowl, the
great Bear team at eighty five they beat the Patriots
forty six to ten or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
Yeah, to your point that you have you always have
those those goofy games where you know, the good team
always finds a way to win. But when you're consistently
having to do that weekend and week out, you're not
a dominant Do you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
Know in their four players games, what their plus minus
was in turnovers?

Speaker 4 (01:29:40):
It was like team Yeah, it was in.

Speaker 6 (01:29:43):
The crazy number. I mean, yeah, no, it's it's why
the games got out of hand because their defense was
forcing and they weren't committing ye, and they they had
great field position. They and look, they have some of
the best players in the modern NFL history and they're there.
They're running back is on a Hall of Fame track
now that he's with a real team. I mean, you

(01:30:04):
put up great numbers with a bunch of bombs at
the Meadowlands, Brown and Smith. They're on a Hall of
Fame track at the rate they're goal the quarterback potentially
could get there. The right tackle is a lock, the
former center is a lock. The left guard and the
left tackle are heading in that direction. I mean, that's
that's a hell of it. That's the hell of a thing.

(01:30:26):
It's only two years with Jail and Carter, but he's
a force, uh a wild force slay potentially as a
Hall of Fame player given his career. So I mean
they got they got some guys on this team, and
now they just happen to be really young. I know
we mentioned Ali Roseman before he finally had a bad
day yesterday and we got with a beer can. But

(01:30:47):
before that he'd been on some kind of a role.
My man's head, I felt that, did you why are
you doing beer cans at the bus?

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
Pup and hit cigar? Though some woman got shot. They
got in an argument over a porter potty. Of course, yeah,
I mean you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
And again sometimes it's it's the two percent of people
that mess it up to the ninety eight.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
Percent who are just trying to enjoy themselves.

Speaker 5 (01:31:16):
And millions of people gathering. All this crap's gonna happen
because people are in its.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
Yeah, I would go back, Like I said, you can't
compare them, but the best teams, if I'm gonna say,
and I didn't see the sixty seven six ers that
you know, I was nine years old, so I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:31:35):
But then in the eighty three six ers were considered
still are. If you've made a list of the.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
Best five or six teams in NBA history, they're probably
both on it. Okay, I don't know if this Eagles
team will go down that way. You know who knows
retrospect for certainly in this century these twenty five years,
they got to be one of the best three or four.

Speaker 6 (01:31:57):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:31:57):
Super Bowl champs?

Speaker 6 (01:31:58):
Yeah, yeah, I mean the way they won the games there,
I mean the Patriots, the Patriots all those years that
they won Super Bowls.

Speaker 5 (01:32:08):
No, no, they barely won all the one game they
were supposed to plow the team out they lost.

Speaker 4 (01:32:14):
The Chiefs didn't blow anybody out exactly. You know, the
Chiefs won beat five because Mahomes they won by three
or they want, you know whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:32:22):
And look, they beat this supposedly unbeatable team, and they
didn't just beat him, they annihilated them.

Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
Thirty four points eighteen point victory. Still doesn't do it
justice of how badly.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
The interesting thing to me now, because now that we
have a ring, you have two rings, where does this
franchise go from here? Because if you look at it,
they have a chance now to separate themselves from a
lot of teams by winning two they kind of did.
I mean, you know that puts you on a different
two and seven season and three five six years, which

(01:33:01):
should be jails prime. I would think, ye, all, they
can get to another right exactly if they can get
to another two or three super let's say two.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
Win one or win two, and then you get to
the point where maybe you've won three and ten years.

Speaker 6 (01:33:19):
Yeah, the.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
List, there are not many teens in lists since the Cowboys.
Let's say, yeah, they can say that.

Speaker 6 (01:33:27):
And then you say that the Eagles, this version of
the Eagles would be the best run in the history
of Philadelpy sports. That's what you would say, because there's
no other time that they want three titles. Yes, just
doesn't happen. I mean you got to go back to
the Flyers, fifty years ago when they won consecutive titles,
they ain't want pay one one sense and I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
It's different world.

Speaker 6 (01:33:47):
Are still completely completely different world. But yeah, I mean
the Eagles and they are on track to do it.
And now that they've done it, all the pressure is
off them. They had a win the game, so they
just haged it. They couldn't lose again for that team.
That couldn't happen. Now that now they can just play
free and easy man and go for it. And I like,
you know, the interesting to see the offensive coordinator is

(01:34:10):
whether it's in house or they bring somebody in.

Speaker 4 (01:34:12):
It's going to be made.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
I'm gonna be the offensive quarter pay Yeah, I'm gonna
I'm gonna pitch at the bar. I'm gonna pitch at
the bar in the first play of the season and
just say god.

Speaker 4 (01:34:24):
I think this is my impression.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
I understand exactly what you're saying, but I think there
will be pressure on them next year. And I think
they're good because in this town especially, there's gonna be
an awful lot of people think they can repeat and
they might be right, sure of course I'm not, and
I think there's not many teams to get a chance
to repeat, just like Kansas City was going for some
har Mahomes will never play again in his life for

(01:34:47):
a three peat. In all likelihood, they're probably not going
to win two in a row again. Okay, So Diagles
have next year to be the flyers, right, the Flyers.

Speaker 4 (01:34:56):
Are remembered because that they want to in a row.

Speaker 6 (01:35:00):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
And I think there will be some kind of pressure,
but not The thing is if they don't win for
whatever reasons, we'll still have this, you know, and we'll
carry you for for certainly a while, John.

Speaker 6 (01:35:16):
John Kyle, you remember the you remember the great Florida
teams that won back to back.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
That's right to them, Corey Brewer, Corey Brewer, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:35:29):
I mean just and and they all they want it,
and yeah, a bunch of those guys could have gone
pro and they didn't. They came back to win again.
And I don't remember, Mike, I think you were there
for the second one. Yeah, ye, right, yeah, that's correct.
And and I remember in the championship, like Dana was

(01:35:50):
there with me, she was still at the Daily News.
Mike came over because you were at the Masters, right, Yes,
you came over for the weekend, I think and I
don't remember, and I think this might have summed up
what my lead for the for the game was when
you win. When you win once, you celebrate. When you
win twice, everybody celebrate. And I think that's what you become.
You're different. When you win it to in a row,

(01:36:13):
you become you know, And that's what Kansas City had become.
And that's what the Patriots became. So that's the next
goal for the Eagles. Can they put themselves in.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
That spot as good as yesterday was in this town
and last Sunday was okay and people that game. If
they win again next year, it's a totally different level.
It's now you are to use the word dynasty. You
could put again, You've done something Seattle couldn't do it.
Seattle was eight yards, three yards away from doing it,

(01:36:43):
or a yard or whatever the hell they want.

Speaker 6 (01:36:44):
And they haven't. Basically, they haven't been the same since
Mike haven't been.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
And we've seen teams that have gotten back for whatever reason.
The Phillies nine another example. Right, if the Phillies had
wanted O nine, we would have thought of them.

Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
As the greatest legend there. The Eagles amazing that they
went back to back World Series achieve because they want
to know eight and they and they got better and
know not.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
But if the Eagles win next year, they are playing
for a certain place in Philadelphia history.

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
They already have a place in Philadelphia history. They might
be the best team or one of the best teams.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
But man, if they're in the super Bowl next year
and they win it just to get there, just to
get back to the super Bowl and have a chance
to win it three super Bowls, it'll be nuts and yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:37:32):
And one of the things they have going for him,
and we've talked about this one shows through the years,
even if Kansas City has been winning the ANFC just
about every year, there's so many good teams over there.
I mean, first Baltimore or Buffalo, and you've got to
beat all of them just to get there. It's not
nearly as hard to win the NFC.

Speaker 5 (01:37:51):
So Patrick Mahomes show what you want about about Mahomes.
After that game, we need to stop with you know,
there's no way he's ever gonna be in the go
com He's still quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
That's not so they people keeping have been a goat
conversation anyway, no conversation, right right, all right, that like,
Mahomes still has work to do and like things to
do to accomplish you get there. I know that, Yeah,
absolutely like, But also people saying that this like will
forever ruin his case, this law the lost Mahomes had
is still not worse than Tom Brady losing the New
York Giants when they were clearly like assembled one of

(01:38:25):
the best football teams I have ever seen in my
life and they lost.

Speaker 4 (01:38:29):
That's the problem he got.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
But again, I'm gonna tell you from another ear, and
I noticed what Joe Montana might have been the greatest ever.
Joe to four Super Bowls, no interceptions in the four
and like Dick said, two of the Super Bowls they
just trust and the other two he drove the team
down the field.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
And I can't believe people are going to take away
the achievement of the fact that they actually were one
game away from a three p one game away from
a three peats insane.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
If you agree with one of the best things I
think the Eagles have going for him next year, and
then then down the road for for whatever is.

Speaker 4 (01:39:03):
The quarterback is a steadying influence.

Speaker 6 (01:39:05):
Yeah, he never gets too.

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
Whacked out when they lose, right when everybody around him
is getting whacked out.

Speaker 4 (01:39:12):
And when they win, he.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
Doesn't go jumping into the stands.

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
And saying we're the greatest thing. Since I think that
this team, well, I really don't.

Speaker 6 (01:39:21):
Know that about No. I agree, And he's kind of
the antithesis of the coach who's a wild man. But
that's just it. That's fine, though.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
I think I think the maturity shown over the last
seven or eight weeks that I think he's really and
maybe he had to learn. Maybe he had the Cleveland game.
I think the Cleveland thing embarrassed him.

Speaker 4 (01:39:41):
I really do. And somebody went up to him and said, yo, yeah, man,
he beat the Browns.

Speaker 6 (01:39:46):
Man. Yeah, And I love the NFL films thing on
the sideline when they're you know, they're up twenty seven
Bill and he just tells Calimore just go for it,
just just just call it. You know that that was
after the fourth day and this by Kansas City, they
just did the bomb. You know that that was the

(01:40:07):
moment if anybody had any doubts about the day, that was.

Speaker 5 (01:40:11):
And I was just gonna say the same thing that
Mike current has said about Jalen Hurts, it's the same
thing with Squon, was that that calming influence.

Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
If you watch the NFL micd Up, he is he
might be one of the nicest people.

Speaker 5 (01:40:25):
It is just when you listen, he says, he's naturally
not gonna be here as long as Jalen.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
He could have gloated over to Giants. Yeah, he could have.
He could have said oh kind and he didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:40:34):
If you watch that micd up, I mean the running
backs coach came up to him and said, hey, they
were gonna come after you. You know, you see what
his stats where He's like, I don't care. Lombardi, trou
and Dick.

Speaker 3 (01:40:44):
There's probably still a lot of guys in that Giants
locker room that he's close to that had nothing to
do with him. The Giants and again this was a
GM decision and an organization whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:40:54):
Whatever was it happened.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
And the way he handled himself this year, he is
such a you know, he gets kicked out in the
yards and the first thing he says is, well, look
at my line, ye like, which is right?

Speaker 6 (01:41:04):
He's right, He's yeah, I know people that know him
from Penn State, Mike and he's always been. That's just
that's who he's been, That's who he's always.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
Going to be.

Speaker 6 (01:41:13):
It's a great I mean he and if he and
Jail at Herks are your two biggest stars, and they are.
I mean, that's a hell of a thing to have
on your personal Yep. Yeah, yeah, good good people.

Speaker 4 (01:41:26):
So many good.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
Look, I'm not in the locker room. I don't know
these guys. Just go by from what I read and
what I see, the personalities they have on this team.
You think of I look at the rookie to run
the interception back, Cooper Cooper. I mean, he just looks
like he has his head screwed. You didn't hear word
one about the Toledo kid this year, Now, word one.

Speaker 4 (01:41:46):
All he did was go out and play play like
one of the best cornerbacks in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:41:49):
But you might like all pro level football. You never
heard Zach Bond. You never heard the Kobe Dean say that.
You never heard the end whose name I can never
number three you ever heard no one has even heard.
I know Carter lost his mind a couple of times. Whatever,
he's a big guy. He's going to lose his mind.
The offensive line and my mind.

Speaker 6 (01:42:09):
Yeah, you know, Mike, we got to get out of
here at eleven o'clock.

Speaker 4 (01:42:12):
We get out of here when we're Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:42:16):
We'll get out of here because we got to get
out of a lot of the buck. That's how radio works.
But it's been an awesome show. Eagles that won the
Super Bowl. Uh And Mike, just so he can be jealous.
Next week, I'll be talking to you a night after
I had dinner at Murray's in Vineappa.

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