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Speaker 4 (01:56):
John Jan's gonna join us on the phone. Yes we
are today.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Three, we got eight games today, We got eight games tomorrow.
Have some news on the Villanova coaching front, which I'll
pass along in a moment. Have a theory on why
all the favorites are winning and the mid majors are disappearing,
which we'll also get to a couple numbers to throw out.
The Big ten is eight to zero, and I believe
has covered a spread at all eight.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
We'll see how they do in the second round.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
SEC is eight and six the top seven in the
SEC or seven to one the bottom six many of
them shouldn't even have been in this or one and five.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
The Big twelve six and one, the only loser to
Big twelve.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yes, the flagship program Kansas at their worst year forever.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
The ACC, for the first.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Time since more than one team from a conference could
go to the tournament fifty years ago, has one team
left after round one. It might be the best team
in the tournament. Obviously, Duke has left. The Big East
is three and two. Twenty six of the thirty two
teams left from the Big five leagues. West Coast Conference
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undefeated at t and oh that's Gonzaga, Saint Mary's. The
South Land that's mcneice's. Want to know, the NBC that's
Drake as want to oh?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
And the Mountain West.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Has two teams alive, Colorado State and New Mexico.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Uh, Michael, want to have you watched much of it?
All of it?
Speaker 5 (03:19):
And what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
You know? Kyle was asking me this before the show.
I haven't filled out a bracket in like twenty five years.
I think part of it was when I was at
the paper, I was covering Temple and then Nova were both.
I didn't care about the tournament per se until my like,
I was focused on Temple. Okay, we're going to New Orleans.
Here's this the eight teams because back then there weren't pods.
(03:44):
You were focused on where you're going to eat. Waldis, well, yeah,
you make a very good point. Let's not beat around
the bush here. But eventually I became to the tournament,
but like, I don't care for thirteen beats of four,
like because it's not in my bracket, I guess, but
I followed him my friend.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
It was funny.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
My friend called me the other night he was going
to he lives down the shore, and he says, you know,
he's he's a fan. He says, you got anything? Is
there anything you like? Game one game Arkansas? And I said,
and it wasn't because I was of first of all,
I've been down on Kansas for a while. This isn't
his understandable things that happened, And I just thought that
five and a half.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
I think the line is five and a half. It
just seemed like whatever I dave.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
And there was a couple other games, some of them hit,
some of them did you know? And but I had
the same feeling you did dig a back the SEC. Yes,
is the top of the SEC great, no doubt. But
you take teams like Georgia. Some of those teams, no,
they're they're.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Not all that good.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
It's absurd.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
They just because they got to play each other over
and over and over again. Well you're gonna win some
of those games and automatically go up. Well you beat
you beat Kentucky, so you're in the tournament. Actually you stink.
And Georgia got blasted by got Zaga by one hundred
and the game was over like too matters.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
I was a little surprised.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I think Louisville got a bad draw, but then again,
you get the.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Drawer you get. We've seen people get bad draws before.
For whatever reason, I wasn't high on Creighton and they
proved me wrong. The coach.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
The coach, yeah he's good, he's really good. Their big
man's a really good cal Frown and played the good
every year. Yeah, they're always good.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I mean it's just claiming Cleon surprise you a little bit.
I mean thirteen points.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
At a half time. Yeah, of course it was absurd.
I mean they looked like they've never.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Seen it look good, right, I mean Clemson's solid.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
I'm solid.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Look I saw him live at Daytona Berch They beat
Penn State, so I mean a good squad.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
But final final eight team.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Like I can speak for something for you know, somebody
that's that's in a pool. I didn't take Clemson. I
took them. Uh.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
I think I took him in one of my two,
but for a round one that was mostly chalk, maybe
some slight upsets here and there. Clemson's the one that
there's always broke some people. Sure moving forward. They had
the best text so the tournament so far.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Texts me on Thursday night, I think Saint John's was
up with seven and half five point time, he says, Mike,
the line is nine and a half and second half.
He says, it'll be over by the ten minute mark.
It was over by the ten minute market he won
by twenty nine was twenty five second they won by.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
They started hitting some threes and you're like, uh uh
that team I don't know how far to going. Okay,
they're legitimately good. Team, will discuss. He may not be
as good as we'll discuss. You know what bothers me.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I've been saying for the last three weeks, Florida and
Houston were my two teams that I liked.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Yep, everybody's picking Florida, the whole world. Well, I know,
but everybody.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I mean, like, they had five guys on ESPN and
everybody's do you think.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Any of those people are picking Florida? Can tell you
who their coaches?
Speaker 4 (06:44):
We'll say, billis could, Yeah, I know most of the
I can't tell you who their coaches who, by the way,
was in trouble like four months ago or five months
ago or.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Whatever it was, but he survived. And their point guard
Iss could Walter Clayton here who played for Rick.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Are good.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
They're really good. Yeah, they're really good, and that's how
you winning go. Do we have Jansen yet? Is he
in attendance?
Speaker 5 (07:08):
No, we've had failed attention.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
The question we'll get them all again and I know
the answer him. But so about a month ago, Auburn
was probably the favorite. They were I'm guessing, and I
like them. Yeah, but now they're like the fourth favorite
because when you were sending sending those odds out of teams,
you could bet yeah Auburn now is like I.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Mean, is that they're the last number one. What I'm
saying though, part.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Of it is what a good What was the draw
that they got? That that's what That's what these numbers
are based.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
But do you think that Auburn can still win it
or do you think they're just hit over hit a wall.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Of course, so then they'd be the bet maybe right
it's seven to one. Yeah, I don't know that anybody's
the bet to win it. It's just that's a tough
but they're the better odds. Yeah, the fourteen sure.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I think they dropped is because of how good Creighton
looked in that first round.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Duke should be the biggest favorite because the East is
such a weak bracket, especially compared to the West.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
I mean, Florida.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
If they get there, they're gonna have to probably beat
some combination of Maryland and Saint John's to get just
to get to the final four.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
If this committee. By the way, speaking of Saint John's,
we do have John Okay fair before we get the job.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
This committee screwed up one thing.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
And they didn't put Temple.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Why is and I know the reason why Saint john
should be the two In the course, they should have
been in Newark playing Duke. It would have been the
greatest if that if it got to that point. The
reason they didn't because Saint John's in New York and
they didn't want to screw Duke.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Well, here's the reason they didn't do it, Mike, And
it's equally stupid. They ranked, They ranked every team from
one through six. They had Saint John's eight right behind
which is what the state, which is absurd, behind Alabama,
which is absurd, behind Tennessee, which is absurd. If you
understand basketball and you actually look at it, you go,
which is Saint John's wuld be five. It's not so
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who did you?
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Then they would have gotten site preference and they would
be in ease. Who did Duke get is the two?
Who is the two in the in the Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Tennessee?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Okay, Alabama? I'm sorry, Yeah, Digga's Alabama.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, Yeah, it's just stupid. It's just but that was
the matchup I wanted to see. Ye if they got
to the final eight. Here's the Dukies. Of course, here's
Beatino who's beaten the Duchies in the past. We've seen that.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yeah, absolutely, John, How are you, sir? I'm doing good.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
My bracket not so much. I went upset City with
a lot of picks in my bracket and not a
good not a good tournament to be doing.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
That this year. No, it's been Chalk City. I told
you not to take Norfolk State and he didn't listen
to Yeah. I tried. I tried.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Twenty six of the thirty two still alive or from
power conferences. Favorites have been winning everywhere, covering spreads. There
have been no really great games at all.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
It just wasn't fir.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Almost like the college football playoffs. Yeah, it was very
very similar to that. So I have a general thought
here on why this is happening.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It's only one year and I didn't go back and
look at it. So let's think about why these great
mid major teams or not. Not only are they not winning,
they're getting crushed. Why is that because all of their
good players are now playing for the major teams. That's
what's changed, right, There isn't this team with five seniors
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that have been playing together for four years and they
catch some team with a bunch of freshmen and they
just they just know how to.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
That will never happen again.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
So that that that's my theory on this. Uh and
we'll see over a couple of years whether that's reality
or not.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
But I was thinking, where is that team?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
And the only kind of teams that are doing this
is Drake and then this is an all new team
with a Division two coach. He brought his whole team
with them. But they have a style of play that
can still win. McNee State has a style of play.
That's why they were able to get through. And the
other mid majors I don't caut Saint Mary's are Gonzaga, and.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
They're joining conferences too, right, they're over a lot of
these teams. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I think Saint Mary's is staying where they are.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I think because Zach Zack is going to the pack
whatever number it's gonna be, which is what did you
think about Colorado? What do you think about Ricky's idea?
And I want to say in Colorado State Mountain West,
I don't that's kind of a mid major league, but
not really.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
New Mexico's a serious program. They have been for years.
San Diego State's a very serious program. They have been
for a while.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Uh, John Jeff Mike was asking about Rick Pattino's idea
of taking the ACC in the Big East and putting
them together. Well, it would be a little unwieldy and
some teams that have to get relegated, Yeah, because you
can't have twenty eight teams, I don't think in a league.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
But look, the ACC is pathetic right now.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I mean it was the greatest basketball college whatever your
bootball football. Yeah, they got all these teams that can't
play basketball in that and they're no good.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
There's too many of them.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
But you you would have to cut the fat on
that one.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Essentially, you would have to get rid of a lot
of the bottom teams in the accaull to do that. Well,
I mean, if they do want to problem make a
conference that stays with the Big Twelve, the States of
the SEC and the Big Ten like that, that mad
be something they have to think.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, that's what Rick's talking about, to find a way
to stay with those other leagues. Right now, the SEC
and the Big Ten are earn one group then like
the Big Twelve and the ACC or and the next group.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
But the problem is not particularly close. Problem with the basketball.
For the big problem with that premises the Big East
has too many schools to just play basketball.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Correct, that's good that.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You can't in this day and a there's only one
that plays football that nominal, right.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So if you're going to compete against the Big twelve
and the Big ten in the SEC, you have no shot. Yeah, no,
I agree, you're basketball and that's fine.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Well, I think what Rick is seeing is down the
road they might become completely irrelevant.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
They might just Yes, he's right, at some point, they
might just the big boys. Saint John's basketball, Saint John
Jain's starting a football program tomore.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
That's just the way.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
They don't think they're going to build a stadium in Queens.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Villanova won't even do it.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
And Villanova had the shot that well, they got taken
away from him, but they had a shot.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Uh So on a couple other notes, and we're get
into all the game the games today, there's a today,
a tomorrow Villanova coaching search. Here's here's my understanding of
where we are at this point. Uh they were interested
in coaches still coaching. Chris Collins is no longer involved.
I think they were interested in the uh in uh.
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Ryan Odam who just got the Virginia job. Was that VCU.
I think it's down to two guys. I think it's
down at Porter Moser at Oklahoma and Richard Patino in
New Mexico. Well, if you say, well, wait a second.
One of them just beat a Big East team last night.
New Mexico beat Marquette. Porter Moser lost to Yukon. Maybe
it's Richard Patino. If if New Mexico loses to Michigan
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State tomorrow, I.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Suspect Villanova is going to announce their coach on Monday.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
He was at Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
He was at Minnesota SA.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Correct, you know what I mean. That's my understanding of
what's going on.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
What I didn't realize about Otim that's Dave Otom's son.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I did not know that John Cheney gave For people
that don't know, Dave Odom was an assistant in Virginia.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Yep, they lost to Shamanad.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
But coaching Wake Farst for many years had some great
teams at Wake Farst and John Chaney once gave him
one of the greatest guy he goes. Dave Oten was
the one guy from big schools that would come to
McGonagall Hall to play. He praised the guy. He said,
nobody will come playoffs. Dave vote him and Dave v
Oten beat him by forty to one. Year we had
(14:21):
it's like guy Rodney Rogers. Was it Rodney?
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Guy, I still see Rodney Duncan.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
They won like one hundred and seven to seventy.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
He was but Temple made the tournament that year in
one games.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah. One not of thought.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
As we get into the show, do you think do
you think Richard would be a good choice.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
I'm a huge Richard Potato fan.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I think Vellanovia needs They need a lot of stuff right,
and they did players because everybody's leaving.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
But you can get players.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Let you change your whole team in in a week
these days if you do it correctly. He's a Kyle
Neptune was a nice person but had no juice. It
just there just wasn't anything there. And Richard has that look.
It's not it's not his dad, I mean nobody is.
But he's got some pop. They need the guy that's
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going to go hang out in the cafeteria. They need
the guy that's going to get the students interested, and
they got to play a brand of ball that's exciting
and it's doable. I had does Richard play, how He'll
play as fast as the players he has.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
He's up tempo.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, if they if he has the right players. I
thought he did well with Minnesota. I thought they made
a huge mistake getting rid of him. They got Ben
Williams and it was or Ben Johnson.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
It was a.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Disaster and he just got fired after four years.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
So yeah, he keeps closing out games like he did
last night exactly.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Now, look look good, look good.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Last night for sure, New Mexico knocked out Marquette. For
the people that were not up late. Another note, this
is more for Mike and I than for for you guys.
The legendary heavyweight boxer George for Himan died last night
at seventy six. And for those of us of a
certain age, you go back fifty years ago and George's
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most famous fight was the first fight he ever lost.
George Foreman I looked it up, was forty oh fifty
years ago in the fall of nineteen seventy four, when
he fought Muhammadaldi in the rumble in the jungle in Zaire.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Foreman was looked at this is easier for you guys.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Was looked at as Mike Tyson, but harder to be impossible.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Nobody thought he was completely unbeatable.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Joe Fraser Phillies, Joe Fraser was the heavyweight champion, knocked
him down six times, knocked him out in two rounds.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
It might say whatever he down goes fer and he
was just looked at as invincible.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And then of course Ali wrote adopt them, and Zayer
got the title back at three to one, and George
fought to one for a while and lost another fight
to Jimmy Young, and then he retired for ten years.
He said I'm done, I can't do this anymore. He
comes back and I'll never forget it.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
He's forty four, forty three, forty four, and he fights
for a couple of years and he can't even move,
but he can still punch, and if he hit you,
you were going down.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
George font Is.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
His final record was seventy six and five seventy six wins,
how many by knockouts out of seventy six seventy two
sixty eight complete.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
But he won the heavyweight title.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Well, this is what's great about it.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
George comes back after ten years away from the it's
going to be more than that. And twenty years after
he loses to Ali, in the fall of nineteen ninety four,
he's fighting a guy named Michael Moore for the heavyweight
title and he's just getting beaten the whole fight.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
But George had told Jim Lafley he was announcing the fight.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
He says, at one point Moore is going to stand
in front of me and he's going to let me
knock him out.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
And he did. He hit him with a right and
he was gone. And George, twenty years after losing the
heavyweight title, Ali regained the title.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
At the end, he had forty five and Big George.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
We had we had Philadelphia Sports Writers Dinner. We got
him after he Bernard Fernandez I think helped us get
He was great. But a couple of things people don't remember.
The sixty eight Olympics, yep, heavy won the great There
wasn't one of the great boxing teams that they had.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
There was a couple sixty was real.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
But anyway, George went, he won the gold and he
walked around the ring with a flag way and he
just became in. People became enamored with him. He was
a good guy kid from Houston, Texas. Yes, and then
later a lot of people just know him as a
guy sold grills. He made like a billion dollars selling
the George Forming grills.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
I had did Welly Boddy had one.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Well, he weren't cool unless you had one of a
certain age.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Ali Fraser Foreman.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
It was just like legendary in the seventies and and
I was thinking about it, like they fought. Ali fought
Foreman only once. That was it, one and done. Foreman
fought Fraser twice. Ali fought Fraser three.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I forgot the second. He fought Fraser twenty. He did. Uh.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Ali was three and one against the others.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
He lost the first, the Fraser b m the next two,
and of course beat Foreman. Former was two and one,
beat Joe twice, lost to Ali. Joe unfortunately was one
and four. Joe only lost four fights. Those were the four.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
But yeah, just legendary time Dan half a century and
we had we had Duran Hagler box Well, that's when
boxing mad.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Now, no one can name the heavyweight champion or the
champion of any.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Other division it's incredibly member.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I remember become a non event Saturday Afternoons ABC's Wide
World of Sports, right, which was like a big thing
back then because and Dan would be fighting like some
guy sure, and it would be just great fight, you know,
and no Roberto Duran who held you know, and it
was awesome for me.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
As the charter member of the mamat Ali fancup growing up.
My favorite sports night of my life was the night
he beat Foreman the regain the title, because they stole
it from him. I mean, they just absolutely stole it
from him, and he was a hero to all of
us growing up at that time.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I still think the best fight maybe ever won was
the last, the Third Alley Thriller in Rasier came so
close to Winnie he did, and if he'd won, history's different.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
It's just it.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
But Ali won and he and then the legacy became
his because you know.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
The guy who wrote the book and great book about
it said they they wanted to become heavyweight champion of
each other, and.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
They were like they were never the same race. Those
three fights took so much out of them it was crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
That's when boxing was huge and Ri Peter the Great
George Foreman, who's certainly part of that legacy. Big George
heavyweight Champion, sixty eight, two Olympic heavyweight champ, two time
heavyweight champion, regained his title twenty years after he lost
it as a twenty five year old. He regained it
as a forty five year old, and obviously he'll be
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the oldest heavyweight champion ever, right, I would think, Uh,
so on onto some hoops. H Let's start today CBS
at twelve fifteen Purdue minus six over McNee State, which
was coached by Will Wade, who is going to be
the next coach at n C State, and people are
stunned that he actually has been telling the truth.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yes, I'm going to and everybody's angry at him. I'm going, Yay,
he told the.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Truth, wasn't he? That won two?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
That came out and said Villanova's next coach is still
playing in this.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Wrner throw And they're they're trying to and they're negotiating
with him, and that's just how the world works.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
That's fine, you just told the truth. You're mister big ten.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
What do you think of Purdilla?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I'm not a fan.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
I don't think many people are yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I think their biggest problem is towards the end of
each season. Of last year obviously was exception because they
had zachy E. Their guards start to wear down. It
if you watched them the other day, Smith and Lawyer
Smith was below average, Lawyer was awful.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
They only won because the Treykoffin ran went nuts because
they don't have everybody to guard.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
McNeese is the exact perfect team to play against against
due first, they don't care. They're all going Nancy, stay
with the coach.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
I'm taking McNeese.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I like McNeese plus six.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
I like, would you would you take a shot, take
a shot of the money?
Speaker 5 (22:19):
I would?
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Yeah. I think they have a chance to win.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
I do too.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, I didn't like how Purdue looked the other day. John,
what are your thoughts of Purdue minus six against McNeese.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
I like McNeese and the players are obviously, you know,
pretty good at McNeese, but uh, some of the coaching
decisions and just Will Wade as a coach is very
smart and he really uh in the first round through
Clemson for a loop and that was a rare that
was a senior team that's the team that's been there. Uh,
that's the team went deep into the twittery last year
and McNeese just kind of and will Wade mostly just
(22:47):
confused the heck out of him. So, yeah, I'm I'm
all in on McNeese over Purdue. As you just said,
the guard's plays not good and against a team like that,
I think it'd be tough.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
McNee Yeah, I believe it's easy and I think that's
correct Cowboys. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
And for the people that don't know will Wade's history,
he was one of the many successful coaches at TCU.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
He got the LSU job.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
He made the mistake of being caught on tape doing
what every coach of that era was doing, which was
paying players. He said, well, we made that guy a
strong ass offer and.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
That was the end. He was gone.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
But he got a show cause he couldn't coach for
a year, McNeice hired him. They he said, look, I'll
stay for two years. Well he stayed for two years.
McNee Nobody ever heard of them. They had a great
year last year, they're having a great year this year.
They upset Clemson and as John just said, Dad played
zone in all all year long. They came out in
the zone and Clempson looked like they've never seen his
own defense before, which is kind of hard.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Was a game you told me, by the way.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Thirty, what was the game?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
We were watching your night and you and you said
to me, it's like they never was at Arkansas. Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get to this shoe next game.
CBS two forty Saint John's minus seven and a half
against Arkansas at bet Parks.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
So Arkansas is he made us an afternoon game.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
They got some phenomenal athletes. They played really well down
to stretch compared to what they were doing early. I mean,
these are all highly recruited players transhearser Kentucky other guys
that cow gets. But to Mike's point, they had Kansas beat.
That game is over. Kansas never plays zone. They came
out in a high school zone, and you would have
thought Cali Perry had never seen his own before. Here's
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a guy that spent half of his life coaching against
John Sheney and a matchup zone, and you just thought, John,
flash a guy to the middle of the zone behind
the top two guys in front of the next three guys.
Let him catch the ball and make a decision. This
is not complicent Marcus Camby. Yeah, they had no idea
what to do and they almost blew the game because
(24:45):
of it. But having said that, they got athletes that
frankly are not in the Big East. There is the
most athletic team Saint John's has probably played all season long.
John will start with you. Arkansas is getting seven and
a half. What are your thoughts. I have some strong
thoughts on this one, but I want you to go.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Yeah, I think it's gonna be Saint John's for man.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Saint John's.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
You know, it's a tough team I think for a tournament.
Because and Rick Patino said this during the game. I
think in the first media time out, He's like, we
don't shoot well. We're not a shooting team, and so
sometimes that is a concern that like Saint John's doesn't
shoot well. But in a game like that, I'm not
so short because I think defensively, Saint John's is going
to create a lot of opportunities for themselves. They are
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a great defensive team. I think at times Arkansas offensively
can get very sloppy, as we saw against Kansas. Patino's
going to coach A. I think around John Calipari a
lot here, So I'm big on Saint John's today.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, I'm with you. Here's why I think the biggest
issue is today.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
And look, I've known cal forever and I thought at
one point he was one of the best X and
O guys out there.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
He never got credit for it. He hasn't been any
good at that for a decade.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I think he's been mailing it in since his twenty
fifteen Kentucky team got beat at thirty eight. No, I
don't like how their team's playing the tournament. I do
think he's got a ton of talent.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I think this is a.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Coaching mismatch because Rick is still coaching at a high
level today, He'll have Steam way better prepared than Arkansas
will be.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I'm just I'm not buying. He's the only question I
would ask you, Yep, Can Saint John's do what you
say they do all the time wear you down so
that by the ten minute market a second half, Because
if they can do that, and I don't know if
they you've seen Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah, No, I mean nobody plays like Saint John's. The
Johns point, they have the best defense in the country.
And what they do, even though they don't shoot well.
By the way, Arkansas doesn't shoot well either. Even though
they don't shoot well, it's kind of irrelevant because they
get thirty seven percent of their missus back and that
wears you out. And they turn teams over at a
high rate, so they got so many more shots.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
It's almost like Temple back in the day.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Who didn't shoot well.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Right John says that they've never turned it over, so
they got more shots if eventually, if you have enough
enough volume, you'll get enough balls to go into the basket.
My biggest concern for Saint John's going to be the
I thought they got a bad whistle the other night,
even though they won by thirty. Referees hadn't seen them.
They don't know how they play. They're extremely physical and
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cal's going to be streaming from the time the game
starts at foul foul foul.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
If it's called that way, that could be a problem.
But Saint John's, in addition to everything else, they're starting
to shoot better. If you watch their guys. R J.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Lewis, I didn't think he was ever going to make
a shot. Now he didn't look like he says the
fact that it's in Providence helped them at all. Yeah,
it'll be a Saint John's crown, right, Yeah, there's no
doubt Saint John's minus seven and a half over Arkansas.
Arkansas played better at the back end of the season.
I just think they have enough flaws that they'll eventually
get exposed.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I like Saint John's Kyle.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Yeah, I mean I look back at that Arkansas game
against Kansas just blew that game. They did they say
turnovers and they literally gave it away six turnovers and
three in the final three and a half minutes.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Horrible.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Still credit where credits do Arkansas you know, came out
on top, they played good defense. That's not gonna happen
with Saint john To your guys point, I wouldn't be
surprised if it's, you know, a little tight going into half.
But ultimately I think Saint John's comes down and just
wears them down. And I especially love the coaching matchup here.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah, I just look Rick to me, looks like he's
still at the very top of his game.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
And look at Callous. He's in the Hall of Fame.
He's been awesome. But man, they've If you think about
the history of.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Kentucky in recent years, the teams they lost to in
the tournament. Yet Kentucky Saint Peter so, Rick Patino, and
there's other guys. Bill self loses the Bucknell. There's people
that lose to these squads. Rick Patino never loses these teams.
It just never happens.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
I think you're right has been mailing it in his
final years at Kentucky because those were some horrific loss question.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So yeah, I think and Rick wants to stick at
the Cow because he doesn't like cat.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
They don't like it five years ago. Kallas still can
play that. Rick says he got in the job. Cal say, no,
I got the job. But yeah, it just did you
count two bullheaded guys.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
I'm gonna love watching both of them.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Job Cow, didn't U mess? Awesome?
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Was did?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Bill Snyder at Kansas State? Is the only thing I
can hear.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
He took a.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Team that was one in twenty eight or whatever to
a final four with Edgar Padilla and Traviaso is his backcourt.
Then I'm sorry, but he's not Rich Petina, but no,
very few people are. Nobody is. I'm gonna run down
the other games. I'm ready to get back to him
after the break. CBS five point fifteen Texas A and
(29:36):
M minus three against Michigan, which has won this is
insane thirteen games by four points or less after their Winnever.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
You see see the Texas A and M.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Texas A and M's best offense is the missshot, right.
They're they're the number one offensive rebounding team in the country.
They're not super skilled, but man, they go after they
get after you. And I saw the two years ago
when pet State ran him out of the gym. They
had a freshman point guard Wade Taylor, who was overmatched
that night by a fifth year player Jail and Pickett.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
But he's gotten better and better and better. They're good. Uh,
but we'll get to that game.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Six ten TNT Texas Tech minus seven over Drake Ben McCollum.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
I don't know Iowa.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Maybe you know is from Iowa City, the coach of Drake.
Somebody's got that's got job for jobs. Seven to ten
you can TBS or True TV Auburn minus nine choice
over Creighton seven forty five, CBS Wisconsin minus one over
BYU eight forty And we'll get to this the next thing.
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This is my bet of the Day Houston minus five
over god Zagar, I know which way You're going. And
at nine TBS True TV Tennessee minus five over UCLA
good luck. I think twelve Street sixteen and Mark Feugh
is going to be announced at the at the final
four as being in the new inductee really Fame.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Yeah, he's a finalist's and Pulds.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
The guy who was there before him, Dick when the
Don Monson who went to Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Minnesota job after they made their first run, Mark was
the top assistant.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
He got the job and Gonzaka has been because they.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Said ever since I remember they played Temple a couple
of times.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Marks seemed like a really that was younger in his career,
but he seemed like a really good guy.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, he's good people. He's absolutely good people. Yeah, and
he's stopped should be in the hall.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
And they're going to be the next year where they
joined Pack two, three, seven, whatever, John, Maybe you know
how many teams are going to be at the pack
too for the next one or who's going to be.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
In the more than two?
Speaker 4 (31:39):
I'll say that more. Hey, John, did you see where
Temple Football Real Quick signed ECU's thirty four year old punter.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Oh, I can't make you thirty four.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
He's like thirty four years old.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Thirty four year old.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
And he's what you have like a year of eligibility
And anyway, he's going to be on North broad next
year only on this year to five? Does that nothing? Awls,
I've signed a thirty four year old palm in from Greenfille.
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When we get to those games, we will discuss what
John liked on to.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
The third Game of the day, five point fifteen on CBS.
And you know what drives many things drive me nuts.
At the NCAA tournament, I never know what city I'm
looking at because they refused. It's like you're in Vegas.
They refuse to tell you.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Where you are.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
It's like the NCAA homognizes everything. Tory Court looks the same.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Tony was so much better when they sent eight teams
to one site, and those eight teams were going to
whidle to two and those two. But they said, now
we can't do that anymore because one year they sent
five Eastern teams the boys at and everybody complained.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Texas A and M minus three against Michigan. Uh, Dusty
May has done. I mean they were three and seventeen
the Big Ten last year and they won the Big
Ten tour around this phenomenal job by the Florida Atlantic coach,
of course, was in the final four a couple of
years ago. Was a manager for Bob Knight. Uh, Texas
A and M is. You know they're in the sec
(35:20):
Buzz Williams is he's one where where he's been. He's
a bit of a nut, but obviously a very good bach.
He's he's a stone cold nut. This is a total
contrast in styles. Uh, Texas A and M is just powerful.
They wanted they want to just rebound, rebound, rebound. Yeah,
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that's a fair Michigan state. In their heyday yea, in
their heydeny. Uh, Michigan has a great one to two
inside combination of Black Gold and Danny Wolf. Their guards
have been kind of a revelation when I watch them.
I don't think that's from you, correct, but they keep
finding a way to win games thirteen games.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
By four or less.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Uh, Kyle will start with you A M minus three
the SEC. Their top teams are six and one, the
top teams in a Big ten, excuse me, or eight
and one the top teams in a.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Big ten or eight and oh, something's got to get here.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
I mean, I wasn't high on Michigan coming in. I
had them as many people had as one of those
twelve five upsets. Ye still think they should have lost
that game.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Then every chance to lose it, they they hit the
three when they finally got behind exactly.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
With that being said, Yelle, you know, Yelle fought against
A and M. But A and M had that game
in check for you know, the entirety of it. I
think A and M out muscles Michigan here and Michigan
had their their proven win to all the haters in
that five to twelve matchup.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
I think they go down.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
This game is in Denver for those interesting such things.
My altitude, Yeah, I don't have a real opinion, but
I kind of agree with Kyle. But you have to
explain to me Dick first, Yeah, what happened when the
last play to Merlin Michigan game when Merlin let the kid,
God bless the kid, Doc Trey Donalds down the court unguarded.
(37:08):
It was the Big Ten semifinals, when Regie finals, I'm sorry,
that's all right.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
When raftickers on TV. Don't let Donaldson get it back.
He said it twice, right, don't let Donalds get it back.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
They threw it in. They got it back to Donaldson.
He ran to the rim at the bust or right
before the buzz.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
You know, Michigan is better than we do. Which what's
your opinion of this game?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Look, I like Texas A and M.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
I just think Michigan has been living like on the
tight rope all year long. I don't think that's a
sign of a good team. But look, they won the
Big Ten tournament. You know, they won a million games.
The coach has obviously done phenomenal. They run great stuff
at the end of games. They have a unique big
to big group in Danny Wolf and Golden But man,
(37:50):
Texas A and M. If you could you could tell
me they can make any jump shots, I would love them.
But they were the kind of they could shoot five
for twenty seven. It's going to be a regal game.
Isn't it as that potential. I don't think it's gonna
be a lot of points. What's what's the over under
on this game? I don't see a lot of points.
And yeah, I'm saying seventy is gonna win. I'm not
sure that it's. If anybody gets to seventy, they're going
(38:14):
to win. Seventy is definitely a winning number in that game,
unless there's a million fouls and the points of rack
up that way.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
I like Texas A and I'm minus three. I saw
Michigan live.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
I mean, Penn State had them beat, but Penn State
had a lot of teams beat this year and lost
games at the end. I just think as a little better.
But minus three, they're basically to me, this is everything.
What's the line again? Minus three?
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah, this is everything? Second round, four or five games, Absolutely,
it's exactly.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
You know, either team could win. The line is basically yep.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
I mean Michigan could lose by two and they cover
for you, but basically you're picking a team to win. Yep.
Uh six' ten ON Tnt Texas tech minus seven Against.
DRAKE i don't know anything about The drakes except they
won the other night and it was their first win
since like the seventies or. Whatever. CORRECT i Like Texas.
(39:09):
Tech i've been To Texas. Tech they fly under the. Radar.
Man nobody pays any attention To Texas tech and.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Basketball, yep they're. Good SO i like drinking this. Game
and here's. Why styles style of. Play they play the
slowest pace in the. Sport, Okay so therefore you got
a chance to hang with in.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Seven.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Seven when when the seven is a big number in the.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Game that's not gonna probably sixty to sixty five is,
Okay and what's?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
It what's the overr?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
ON i was just going to say. Seven that tells
you all you need to. Know they're saying sixty is
going to. Win that's what they're telling. You so therefore
you're getting. Seven ben McCollum the coach for people that don't,
know he won four Four division two national. Titles he
brought his last group with it To. Drake it's All
division two. PLAYERS i think their record is like thirty two.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Six drake is In Des moines there at The. Capital. Yeah,
uh they have a historic program for, like As mike,
said in the, seventies do you remember the guy From
philadelphia went. There Lewis Lewis. Lloyds oh my, god he was.
Tremendous Absolutely philly got no. Question.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yeah ben McCollum is probably going to get The iowa
job or The minnesota. JOB i would think one of
them is going to go to. Him and he plays
an old school. Style what's the right? ANALOGY a little
bit of Bo. Ryan they don't make. Mistakes they they
are fundamentally Perfo.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Ryan won a lot of. Games, yes he did fundamentally.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Perfect you'll see the athletes and you'll, go there's no
when you you look at the layoff, lines you, go
there's no chance they got no shotut, zero.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Which is probably Why drake zero better. JOB i Like drake.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Better job For. Ben if if you had a, CHOICE i.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Was a little better. Job the biggest Pro minnesota should
be the better. Job but none of the players From,
minneapolis which is a hot bet of high school, hoops
are In minnesota. ANYMORE i didn't realize that there's been
some great Player Ember Jalen sucks from Good Jest.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Minneapolis, Yeah glenn Alamein. Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
MINNEAPOLIS i ain't had a lot of great players coming To.
Minneapolis they just haven't kept any of them. Home, kyle
you gotta thought you break the tile this.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
One. OH i Like Texas tech in this.
Speaker 6 (41:17):
GAME i know it's gonna be low, scoring But i'm
high On Texas.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
TECH i just Like Texas. TECHA i don't know this,
game BUT i just think They're they're one.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Who's agree with. YOU i think they are flying under
the rails little.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Bit, No they're terrific. Teams so here's one of the
other REASONS i Like. Drake who Did drake? Beat they
Beat missouri from what? League The big? Twelve, yeah In
Texas tech's a little better version Of. Missouri maybe give
a lot better. VERSION i Think drake is live in this.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Game. Uh. TRUE TV.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Tbs auburn minus nine In lexington against The Creighton Blue.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
Jays.
Speaker 6 (41:52):
Uh, Kyle, AGAIN i was saying in the beginning of the,
SHOW i was not huge On creighton coming in uh
to the. Tournament, uh and then they man Handled. Louisville,
alburn on the other, hand has been the best team all,
year and then it's been slipping through the cracks a
little bit down the.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Stretch i'm kind of torn on. That i'll Take creighton to.
Cover how about? THAT i Think alburn wins the, game
BUT i Think creighton.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Can Cover creighton plus. Nine, Mike i'm a big McDermott.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
FAN i just think he can.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Coach he doesn't always have the best team because you,
know he does what he. Does And auburn's. GREAT i,
mean If alburn plays and you know they're a great
team yet and and you, know AND i think the
hits they Took layton, season you, know might have they
didn't look great in their first, game though they think they.
Didn't THEY i WOULD i would have to take creaton
nine and a, half just BECAUSE i think it's a
lot of.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
POINTS i Think auburn Is Saint john's without quite the
defense will with a slightly better. OFFENSE i THINK i
think they're just better than Crag, yeah AND i think
The creighton point guard is out phenomenal. RUN i think
he's gonna get overwhelmed athletically in this, game same thing
(43:04):
that happened to him Against Saint. John's kalkbrenner will hang in,
there but he's probably gonna get in foul.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
Trouble But auburn's best, player nobody Y.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
That's the other.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
THINGS i just don't Think brighton's defense is gonna be good,
enough And i'm this is a really good coaching.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Matchup, Obviously Bruce pearl's.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
TREMENDOUS i THINK i Think auburn, wins AND i think
they're gonna win pretty comfortably in the, end.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
And like sometimes talent does kind Of, yeah win out
a seven forty FIVE.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Cbs it's the closest line to the second Round wisconsin
minus one against B.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
Y you might another one of my. Teams like there's
about six P Yu i've been looking at all. Year
they had some really nice. Wins nobody knows anything ABOUT.
BYU i Know wisconsin's, good and you Know wisconsin's good
because you see. Them But i'm gonna be rooting FOR.
BYU i JUST i don't HATE. WAS i, MEAN i
like both, teams BUT i just THINK byu is one
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of those. Teams nobody could say anything About wisconsin they
did they just win The Big ten or what they
lost The Boston championship because they should have, won. RIGHT
i didn't watch the. Game it was a horrible. Game,
yeah nobody could make a shot. Fife typical of teams
playing their third game in three days In wisconsin's, case
so it's start fourth and. FIVE i think either team
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could win this. Game where's the game? At? What that
is a really good Quit. Denver, Okay So i'm gonna
take The byus only Because i've liked them all.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Year they have a great traveling, group and That Provo
utah it ain't close To, denver but it's close for those.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
People the way can.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
They, drive they might find out they don't. Care they
get in the car and just go The kyle B
yu getting a point Against. Wisconsin this is The big
twelve against The big.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
Ten, Yeah i'll make you do the tiebreaker. Here i'm
gonna go With. WISCONSIN i THINK byu is sneaky, good
but AGAIN i don't know much ABOUT.
Speaker 6 (44:56):
BYU i know a little bit more About. WISCONSIN i
like the way they. Play i'm gonna go with Wiscons.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Provo utah To, Denver. COLORADO i mean there seven, hours
seven and a half.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
Hours they ain't even thinking.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
About, miles and you know out there they're, there, man out.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
There then they can cover four and eighty two miles
in about three.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
Hours they drive.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Like they've been there Since. Thursday that's you're. Right they
bought up all the tickets Of wisconsin's not, real, real
far from there. Farther, no that's a little bit. More,
yeah it's a little bit of. All, okay do you
like because You're, YEAH i LIKE byu in this. GAME
i think this comes down to me surprises me a
little bit to the.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Leagues uh and, Look wisconsin is not your Father's. Wisconsin they,
score they score in the. Eighties they shoot.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
Three that's.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
Right the guy completely changed this last last.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Year they changed this. Year they changed it even, more greg.
Guard they just they couldn't win big with the style.
Anymore B yu plays very much of a pro, style
and That Mark pope was there last. Year now they
have AN nba. Assistant his name Is escaping Me game
and it has done a great. Job they're a fun
team to. Watch that's where The kentucky coach was last
year With Mark? Pope was it b what you realize?
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Yet this is skill versus skill, here this is Not
TEXAS a AND. M it's gonna be a lot if
this gona be a really good game to, WATCH i
guess should be a fun game to.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
WATCH cbs today at seven forty, Five i'll break the.
Tie i'll take B, yu but a very close game on,
paper it.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
Was the last time B yu was In sweet Sixteen Danny.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Inge, YEAH i mean were they end Of sweet sixteen
With Danny Ainge jimmer for that were Made.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
WELL i thought When danny went coast to Coast. AGAINSTNESS
i don't, Know i'm just ASSUMING i. HAVEN'T i don't.
Speaker 6 (46:35):
Twenty eleven they were really good for, You kyle Dunk,
Kyle that's.
Speaker 5 (46:40):
Right and then before that was nineteen eighty, one that
Was Danny.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
AINGE i was close eight FORTY Tnt houston minus five Over. Gonzaga,
JAH i know who you like in this? Game, Yeah john,
SAID a, strong a Strong.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Houston, look this is a reaction to What gonzaga did
Against georgia there where they just ran them out and
their historical success in the Tournament georgia is not very, good.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Not very GOOD sec. Team, yeah that's exactly.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Right and, look the metrics are have been huge On
gonzaga all, year and, Frankly i'm not quite sure why
WHEN i watched them AND i like.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
THEM i Love houston and this.
Speaker 5 (47:19):
They lost To Saint Mary's, choice but they Beat.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
Mary's in the. Championship, YEAH i just think my five
seems like very few. POINTS i, agree with.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
You for a team Like, houston which is just is.
Playing they're right up there With. Florida they're playing as
well as.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
Anybody that they won one of the.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
Two or three best leagues in the country four.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
GAMES i mean.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
Comfortably this is fascinating Because Kelvin sampson And mark fu
go way. Back Kelvin sampson's first big job was At Washington,
state which is In, pulman which is not all that
far From. Spokane and it was Funny calvin at the
prescotnference yes today had to explain to everybody It's, spokane Not.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
Spoking and It's, gonzaga not Gonz it's not The.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Zogs it was actually funny and he, Says I'm kelvin
and Not. Kevin it was having a good. Time but,
LOOK i respect everything back In. Zaga that run. CASE
i think this is the bet of the.
Speaker 5 (48:19):
Day agree with you Said houston is gonna smother.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
THEM i would. Not i'm. IN i THINK i think
the two best, teams, WELL i, SEE i guess this
is the three best teams BECAUSE i can't Discount.
Speaker 5 (48:32):
Duke But houston And florida to, me because they do
they do. Both there's other teams that are really.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
Good tennessee can't score a, Lot alabama can't defend the.
Lot alburn's probably one of those. Teams it does, both,
right they got they got a lot of.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
BOTH i Have houston winning one of my.
Speaker 6 (48:50):
Brackets so IF i IF i have any doubts about this,
game THEN i am in deep.
Speaker 5 (48:54):
Trouble i'm right In.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
Houston if you're tired at the end of the, Night.
No nine forty TVs TRUE, tv go to.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Sleep this is going to be a bore Ball tennessee
minus five AGAINST.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Ucla.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Uh these are two of the top ten defensive teams
in the. Country UCLA's, got in my, opinion one of
the great defenders in the.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
Country Kia johnson AND i love what's you over undering
his Puppy kyle uh and a. Half, yeah sixty five
is if you get sixty, five you're almost guaranteed to.
WIN i Thought crotin's team stunk like when we were
talking In, december they. Weren't he was down on his. Team,
LOOK i think does that every. Year but they've Gotten,
no they're a lot, better, Right this is a seven
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to two. Game, Yeah ucla is a.
Speaker 5 (49:34):
SEVEN la still can't shoot, though, Right, yeah that's their
that's their.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Issue they're under they're pretty average under to one thirty offensive.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
Team this is THE sec against The big ten, again
so you Know big ten at a great has had
a great. RUN.
Speaker 5 (49:49):
SEC i said their eight.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
One they were seven and one with their top, teams
one and five with their bad.
Speaker 5 (49:54):
Teams and then one of their bad teams Is. Arkanas
that was almost that was almost. Predictable that was just.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
Ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (49:59):
ONE i got a no bet tomorrow when we get
to tomorrow's.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Games, yeah we're gonna get to. Them so, yeah that
that game. Again if you're if you've had enough, hoops
that's that's as exciting As wisconsin.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
And B yu might be for like people that like.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
Offense i'll tell you what If mark if better liked
if Gun zaga gives them a, game a real, game
like we're in the last, minute, yep cats off to,
them BECAUSE i just don't see it in this.
Speaker 5 (50:23):
Game houston is.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
And you, Liked you said diff because of what Gun
zaga did in the first. Round, sure and Because gonzaga
gets to The sweet sixteen every single, Year BUT i
don't think.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
This we've seen better Gun zaga. Teams, right there's no.
DOUBT i wouldn't say. This their team played very well
at the end of the. Season that's part of.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
It.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Right they Noted Saint mary's that they beat them for the,
title but having said, that the league is not that.
Good they had very little success in the non con this,
Year gonzaga in contrast to their.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
History so, YEAH i.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Think houston is as a great as all this portal
stuff hurt gun zagab BECAUSE i think of the team
they had a couple of years, ago, RIGHT i, mean
they had great, players right.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
As portal hurt. THEM i, MEAN i don't know they
really they used to seem like they got. BETTER i
don't know they had more. Talent maybe they still got.
Guys they still got.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
Guys, okay they don't have chet holmgrid and on those
guys or so on lottery, picks but they certainly have good.
Speaker 5 (51:21):
Players, yeah that's not a Chet holman's pretty. Good he's really.
Good yeah that uh, yeah he sat out. Case he's
doing pretty.
Speaker 4 (51:27):
Good oh, YEAH i.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Noticed and they were doing pretty good when he wasn't,
Exactly and they're.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
Gonna do pretty good when they get the six or seventh.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
Pick i'm gonna go over the lines on The sunday
games that will discuss when we get.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Back.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
Uh starting at two forty ON, Cbs duke minus twelve
and a half of our Baler duke is the only
double digit favorite in round.
Speaker 6 (51:47):
Two.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
ILLINOIS i was a little surprised by this minus one
and a.
Speaker 5 (51:51):
Half had you skipped the first game?
Speaker 4 (51:53):
There i'm SORRY i.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Did i'll be right back to want to, Say illinois
minus one and a half Over. Kentucky that's five ON.
Cbs that's a what's? That a three against a six
and the six is the favorite and the six has been?
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Hurt?
Speaker 5 (52:05):
Right they get some, players like you were, telling they're.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
Back the guys are. Back, yeah oh, No i'm Full
kentucky had some injury guys Like kentucky's the. Three, Okay i'm,
Sorry i'm. Sorry, yeah they have everybody but one guy.
Back twelve ten ON. Cbs this is. Fascinating florida minus
nine and a half Over. Yukon yukon has now won
THIRTEEN nca games in a row and they've covered all.
Speaker 5 (52:28):
Thirteen they did cover last night for the people that are.
Speaker 4 (52:31):
Watching it took a, while but they eventually wore down my,
Man Porter mosa are In.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
OKLAHOMA tnt attend, You hurley, Said they ask him how fulp,
yeah he goes feels no, NORMAL i guess so six
ten ON Tnt, alabama five and a half Over Saint
mary's seven ten ON Tbs, maryland seven and a half
Over Colorado.
Speaker 4 (52:52):
State that game is In.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
Seattle seven forty Five iowa stayed five and a half
Over old miss on Tat Michigan, state seven and a
half Over New. Mexico and finally ninety ON Tbs arizona
four and a half.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
Over by the, way if anybody GETS, espn which most
of us, Do east sixty did a Great Germy Shop
The Other, hurley and it's all About danny and the
Things danny says on this thing are really, revealing like
about the whole. Family and and it's an hour, long
And i've watched it like three.
Speaker 5 (53:27):
TIMES i find it.
Speaker 4 (53:29):
Fascinating so if you get a, shot it's Called The
Other Hurley Jermy shop shows why He's jermy Shopp and
it's a lot of things you probably knew about, that
like with The hurleys and the relationships with the father
And bobby and all that kind of stuff people that don't.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
Know Bobhurley senior was the legendary high school coach At
Saint anthony's And Jersey city coach his, Sons bob early
and then and Then. Danny bob of course went on
to have a great career, too And danny went on
to not have a great.
Speaker 4 (53:56):
Career Apparently danny had a lot of mental. Issues, yeah
dealing with, that he quit the team for for a.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
Year people are yelling at, him you're Not you're Not,
bobby and was brutal and for especially for an eighteen
or nineteen year old. KID i remember they Played LaSala
in the. Tournament he was on that team That darren
De harrow is the star on AND i felt bad for.
Him you could just, see you could just see it in.
Him he were just struggling so. Much but you know,
what he's going to The hall Of, fame.
Speaker 4 (54:21):
So he'll be.
Speaker 5 (54:22):
Fine, YEAH i, think, YEAH i, MEAN i mean he's
actually Become. Hury he's a. LEGEND i mean as a.
Speaker 4 (54:28):
Coach people forget right, there because it was thirty years,
ago how Good Bobby hurley was.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
STILL i believe he's still. Still the assistants later in
that's the. HISTORY i believe that's.
Speaker 4 (54:37):
True, yeah and didn't look like, much, RIGHT i mean
when you just saw him, physically looked like he was
something the last guy you'd picked in the.
Speaker 3 (54:44):
Playground, yeah he played on his great teams At duke
in the early. Nineties all, Right, uh we need to
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not exactly sure if It's west, coast east. Coast it's
down There, Somar. Florida and now here's what you need
to know about. ME i had this pool That i'm
in WHERE i got to make the picks In december
for the whole.
Speaker 5 (58:27):
Year, Okay kyle at least gets the week wait until
the week.
Speaker 4 (58:31):
Of actually entered in the.
Speaker 5 (58:32):
Tournament i'm still not much.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
Better last WEEK i Had Victor, hovelin who two years
ago was one of the best players on the.
Speaker 5 (58:39):
Planet he's now been through like six swing.
Speaker 4 (58:41):
Coaches he Hasn't he's made two cuts since Last, JULY
i believe, anyway he missed the cut last. Week Victor
hoblin's in second place right, now the GUY i have this,
Week Adam, hadwin who finished fifth in his tournament last,
year missed the.
Speaker 5 (58:56):
Cut so that's your timing is not. Good, Well i'm just,
saying very. Good try next week's To Houston.
Speaker 4 (59:05):
Open SOMETHING i gotta figure, out, no, now you, Guys,
okay some guy Named Jacob, bridgman WHO i have no,
clue is leading at six. Under, hoblin AS i, said
is one of the guys at five with b h
n who's actually he's a good. Golfer Lowry Shane, lowry
also five. Under Shaw lee is at four. Under, uh he's.
(59:28):
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he played a little better last. WEEK a couple of
other Guys xalaturus is two Under connors who's been playing,
well to under our Man Tom camp two Under horsel
two and one Guy i'm gonna throw out. Later But
i'm gonna do SOMETHING i don't usually. Do i'm gonna Take,
shawfley who is two. Back he's five to. ONE i
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usually look for something more than. That but, Again hoblin
will probably win again because But i'm gonna rote.
Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
This one out.
Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Though Tommy, fleetwood who's even so he's six back thirty six.
Ago he finished two years ago third in this tournament
fifty to. ONE i might throw a couple of little
shekels on the Fifty.
Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Makeniche state won their FIRST ncaa. Game why Can't tommy Fleet.
Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
That was their first effort at They drake won the
first since like the, seventies he can win.
Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
His FIRST Pga tour event only to that's.
Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
Trait he's never. Won that's, right he's never won THE Pga.
Tour good, golf really.
Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
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tied at two.
Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
Under oh, yeah oh, no that's why he's fifty to.
Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
One fifty.
Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
One you want to sign me up for, that, because
like you, said there's not too many big names in this.
Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Time if they don't want.
Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
Us fifty to, one sometimes it. Happens sometimes it. Does
so next, week As Adam, hadwin did.
Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
You say you had a rant for, us some sort
of mini ram you want To, Yeah i'll have time
for you right.
Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
Now i'll do. It, squeeze you're on the. WRONG i
don't want to hear this name. Anymore can you guys
guess what? NAME Ryl?
Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Moore?
Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
Nah is? It? Six ers, Related, no Not philadelphia. Related
what we Got Brownie James.
Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
Now BRIAN i got no problem With brian Decided brianie that.
Did but, Anyway Aaron, RODGERS i do not want to
Hear Aaron rodgers. Team they have talked about him on
THESE tv shows THAT i watch it. Incessantly he's now
there's only two teams now and actually The giants to
(01:01:27):
sign the quarterback, Yesterday James Wentz Jameis. Winston so we
all know that he's going to end up In. Pittsburgh
that's the only, place lot but he it's the only
place unless The vikings decide, Somehow, yeah which they don't.
Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
Want they don't want. Him they nobody wants.
Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
Him that's the whole. Point that's the whole. Point but
yet He's Aaron. Rodgers he's going to go down as
a top ten. QUARTERBACK i don't know if he's top,
five but. Whatever he won four. MVPs he had a great,
career had a great, career and the word is. Had
now he may go To pittsburgh and lead him to the.
Playoffs i'm not saying he. Won't, well he made the
(01:02:02):
playoffs last year with two, quarterbacks neither of whom were
going to be with. Him but, AGAIN i am just
so sick of he begged The, jets And jets it
and THAT i don't think so he went to TO
la and.
Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
THEN i, said, nah we'll resign our.
Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
GUY i just, like here's my, question did any of
these people who are talking About Aaron rodgers actually watched
this guy play last? Year?
Speaker 5 (01:02:26):
Well what AM i? Missing he did the last six?
Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Seven he played, better and he was coming off at
forty one years old and The achilles and it's a dysfunctional.
Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Operation so there's there's some thought that given the paucity
of good, quarterbacks that he could be that he's better
than someone in the top half and get you some
here's his last few.
Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
Years At Green. Bay they didn't win crap and they
were home in the playoffs a couple of those. Years,
yeah and Again i'm not he but he's irritating because
he goes On pat McAfee and tells you, things and
because he needs the money to go.
Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
On pack McAfee.
Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
And teammates to see what the one guy From pittsburgh
iought it was. Great heyward is the son of The
iron right just, said, hey if you if you want
to be, here just not shut. Up they.
Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
CAN'T i don't understand How Mike tomlin is. Going they are.
Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Desperate they've been mediocre for a long time because they
can't get a.
Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
Quarterback, EVENTUALLY i Think tomlin's gonna's gonna have to be
shut up for him because they've been mediocre for nobody
else he's.
Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
Got they gotta Take rogers because they got nobody else they,
went haven't got the wide receiver From think about, this,
Guys it's kind of said in THE, nfl if you
don't have a, quarterback think about how bad you.
Speaker 5 (01:03:50):
Are think about the.
Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Teams The, Giants, Cleveland pittsburgh's good, team but they're not it's,
good The, TITANS i could probably go through three or four,
more The jets if you don't have and think about
The eagles they got they've got. One and we've all
think about we Had Michael, vick who had a couple
(01:04:11):
of really good. Years wentz would have been probably pretty.
Good then he didn't go down the, back then go
down even folds when we bought him in had his moment,
right we we don't understand what. JAWS i, mean we,
basically for the most, part Had we've had some bad years,
too but nod So Aaron rodgers, Name.
Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
Come, on you'll probably go eleven and two next year
and shut me.
Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Up here we go twelve ten TOMORROW Cbs florida minus
nine and a half in a one eight game Against.
Connecticut florida is. Great they're playing.
Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
Great.
Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Uh yukon is nothing like the team that won the
last two national titles.
Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
And, allowed but they're still the. Defense.
Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
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night when it got to the point where they had
to find a way to win the, game they found
a way to win the game because they know how
to win. Games this is fascinating to. Me florida is clearly.
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GUYS i said, YOU i, said, yeah if you look at,
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Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
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Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
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Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
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did happen was. Irrelevant, yeah it's about these two teams
tomorrow at twelve.
Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
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TO i still THINK i might there's part of me
that could make a case for taking the nine and
a half just because of what's. Happened, sure and BUT
i know who's gonna win the, Game, LIKE i have no.
Qualmy If i'll tell you, what If Danny hurley wins
that game, tomorrow well he's just say that's. It i'll
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Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
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they are that.
Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
GOOD i mean to, me by the end of the,
year they were the best even the best conference in the.
Country and doesn't mean they're gonna win, it of, course
but but they were like light years.
Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Chance if they can manage to keep the game in the,
sixties not get it.
Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Wild Todd golden has never been.
Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
In this spot in his.
Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
Life, Obviously Danny hurley's been in it many many. Times.
Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Uh if they can get this into a six minute
game where all the heat is on the one, seed
then that's their.
Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
Chance but if this is what you're saying Is florida
would have to, CHOKE i THINK i Think florida would
have To, yeah they'd have to get them very. Uncomfortable but,
again if you just look at it player for, PLAYER
i don't think there's that for you.
Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
Too starts this is the beauty of one and.
Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
Done in THE, nba we'd be sitting here, Going, okay
maybe you kind can win a, game you, know but
it's a seven game. Series it just isn't want to
happen one and. Done we've seen it way too many.
TIMES i don't think it's going to happen and.
Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Then but you, KNOW i think WHEN i WHEN i
Watched yukon this year and again we watched them last,
year they ran the most beautiful.
Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
Offense it's just it's.
Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Incredible this team doesn't have that kind OF iq and
or talent on. Offense they can't run the same stuff
all the way. Through they get bogged. Down they got
a couple of guys that clearly don't know what the
hell they're, doing and it's.
Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
Driving the coach.
Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
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three or four basic. Sets, WELL i guarantee You florida's
gonna know everything they. Do before you couldn't know everything
they did because they did too much stuff and they
had too much to.
Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
Question how is the? Guard because it was on the
most outstanding player that you really. Liked we all kind of,
like how's he doing in.
Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
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Antonio he's doing going? Fun, yeah because we all liked, him,
RIGHT i mean he was the most outstanding player two
years in a, row, Right, No, no, no he. Was
Stephan castle was a freshman on last year's. Too, okay
who's thinking new he was? There? Oh, OKAY i don't
even think he's in the. Pros, okay who.
Speaker 5 (01:08:15):
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Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
Year was? It and the final?
Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
Four it was a?
Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
GUARD i know it was one of their. Guards Wasn't
Cam spencer? WAS i don't Know Cam spencer's in the?
Pros he was on their. Team i'm just trying to,
think but we you you really Like, castle, right you
thought he Was castle.
Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
Was any anybody with a, brain he was gonna be
a great. Pro, okay he's got to Win rookie of The.
Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
Year figure. That, yeah he's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
Right, OKAY i haven't been. Followed, YEAH i was gonna
ask about. That he's averaging fourteen. Again, yeah he's been.
Great and If wemby was, there he'd be doing more.
Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Right it'd be a playoff team for. Sure, YEAH i
mean they got they look they got the. Best ye
what would you give?
Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
Me, okay you're putting a percentag joined you kind of
have a five percent chance to win this? Game ten
per than?
Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
That, Yeah, NO i think they got about a twenty
five percent chance of.
Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Winning that's.
Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
So, SEE i think that's a.
Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
Lot.
Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Yeah, WELL i mean if just because of how well
coached they are all, that but, again if you just watch,
it there's just no way they should be able to Beat.
Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
Florida, kyle your.
Speaker 6 (01:09:07):
Thoughts on, This, YEAH i Think florida is just just too, Good.
YUKON i salute to. Them amazing ron covering thirteen in a,
row back to back. Champs it's got to come to
an end at some, Point and why wouldn't it Be,
florida who's arguably the best team in the tour.
Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
You go to the nine and a. HALF i don't.
KNOW i would not BECAUSE i just think that's the
WAY i. FEEL i just Think connecticut is so well. Coached,
again And danny said it last night after the. Game
so if people could get past my, antics which they, Can, yeah,
right what we've done is.
Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
Phenomenal the, Coaching, yeah the coaching see anything that scares.
Me SO i you, know from a betting, STANDPOINT i
probably stay away from the nine and a. Half but
if you put a gun to my, head you will
never see a team.
Speaker 5 (01:09:50):
Ever, Again, well it's hard enough just to seem to cover.
Twelve it's no. Impossible it just doesn't, happen completely.
Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Impossible two in the second game In, Raleigh duke minus
twelve and a half.
Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
Over A baylor or just spread of the.
Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
Weekend for the people that don't know The baylor point
guardist Kid Robert right From newman Garetty is high school
team last, year you ready for this At Montverd.
Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Academy Robert, Wright Cooper, Flag liam, McNeely Derek. Queen yeh's
your guy From, maryland and a kid From. Georgia sean
may know his, name BUT i can't remember. It that
was the starting five At montverd last.
Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
Year they had the guy From maryland And cooper flag
And robert right the point Guarded. Baylor i'm just thinking
of this size right, there And liam, McNeely.
Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
The star freshman at. You, yes they did go thirty
three and. Up Does balor have any chance? HERE i
don't think this is a Vintage baylor. Team they're in
a tough. Place they're In, raleigh As duke typically gets
a couple of home, games And duke's had a lot
of blowouts this, year, Right duke has been crushing.
Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
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acc was god. Awful that was, Terrible BUT i throwed that.
Out but They Duke duke. Right they pulverized. Everybody and
when they got out of the, league they Beat offer at.
HOME i don't know if anybody saw The illinois game AND,
msg but they beat them by a. HUNDRED i hate
laying that, much Especially, tom and SO i probably just won't,
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because you're basically just betting That baylor only loses by
eight or, nine, correct which they. Could and, Look baylor
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Speaker 7 (01:11:34):
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the freak athlete they. Have this kid's like AN nba lock,
city like. CRAZY i, mean they got some players it didn't,
like and the coach is obviously proven in big.
Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
Spots i'll never forget that title game and we're and
you and like three mins in the, Game, mike just Keep,
mike keep taking bail More.
Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Baylor that was the Undefeated zaga team that needed a
couple OF U c L.
Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
A and they were shot and That baylor jail and
so people.
Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
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could see the layupe. W The baylor played like five.
Guards their biggest guy was like six six. Defense they were.
There SO i give them a small, chance but not
a big. Chance here's a. Game do you give a
bigger Chance Baylor Connecticut. Connecticut, yeah, YEAH i, agree just
because of who they, are what they've.
Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
DONE i. AGREE i, Think, Look duke is really really really.
Good Uh, no problematic.
Speaker 6 (01:12:39):
Isn't it's still not one hundred. Percent they're kind of
easing hit it back to way set up With duke.
Speaker 5 (01:12:43):
In florida meeting the.
Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
Final you know, WHAT i don't. KNOW i don't Have, yeah,
okay well they would have been the. One The auburn
was one duke To florida?
Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
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it was.
Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
FOUR i Think houston was, Three houston And florida? Four
or was Was houston four when they ranked?
Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
HIM i got it here on MY i got it
on my. Email i'll find it, Second i'll get.
Speaker 5 (01:13:08):
It But auburn was definitely, one, Right auburn was overall number.
Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
One that is.
Speaker 6 (01:13:12):
Correct, yeah the way it's set up Is florida and duke, final.
Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
So they must have been two and. Three, yeah that's.
Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
Correct houston was.
Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
Four that's a tough. Going hoon is.
Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Four but what are you gonna? Do here's a GAME
i like a little. Bit five point five ON. Cbs
illinois minus one and a half Over. Kentucky, yike great?
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Speaker 5 (01:13:33):
DO i tell you WHAT i.
Speaker 7 (01:13:35):
WAS i.
Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
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The Boston, celtics so he's got them shooting fifty threes a.
Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
Game there's only one. Problem they stink at.
Speaker 5 (01:13:46):
It they're not a good.
Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
Three point shooting.
Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Team but he's somebody over the summer got the Brat
underwood and explain analytics to, him and he went, berserk
and now he just wants to shoot threes every, time
except he doesn't Have Jason tatum And Jalen brown and
those kind of. Guys kentucky can really. SCORE i, mean
they can really. Score AND i think, THIS i, think
what's you over Under. Kyle it better be like one
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eighty or one. Seventy i'm kidding one.
Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
Seventy so that's where you weren't for to win.
Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Shootout that AND i tend to think that's. Accurate illin
always favored in the. Game, well it's it's basically pickle
minus one and a half Over. KENTUCKY i will Take.
Kentucky kentucky's defense is a. Concern it's not very, good
BUT i like how they play offense better THAN i
like How illinois plays. OFFENSE i Think underwood will try
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to get into a three point shootout and he ain't
gonna win.
Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
IT i don't.
Speaker 5 (01:14:44):
THINK i think at this stage in the, game you
can't rely on three point shootouts to solely win you.
Games that's Why i'm gonna Lean kentucky And.
Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
I'm gonna make an option qu the best three point
shooter in the country And Kobe bryan and his kid
is unpublit before we.
Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
Today can you imagine if the final four is the four,
ones which probably won't, be but, okay the games would Be, Auburn, Houston, Florida.
DUKE i ain't going nowhere that. NIGHT i am Whatever i'm.
Doing there's six hours of MY tv two weeks from.
Tonight oh my, gosh would that be In San antonio the?
Speaker 6 (01:15:19):
Game the games will Be, Auburn, Florida, Duke. Houston, see
well that's WHAT i asked.
Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
You you gave, me you gave you.
Speaker 6 (01:15:25):
SAID i, said in the final, game in the final championship,
game the final.
Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
Four, no, no, no in the final? Four who would
be playing? Who so what do you tell? Me it's
It's auburn in the final four in the. Finals, yeah
it will Be Auburn.
Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
Florida So florida's number, four Of florida's Four and, okay
it's Still i'll watch those.
Speaker 5 (01:15:43):
GAMES i don't care what it. Is it would still be.
Amazing florida the number, four the.
Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Four, YEAH i mean somebody had to Be, well the
difference why they weren't, higher they didn't win the regular.
Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
SEASON i get.
Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
It, yeah that that that and they always because you
don't know who's gonna win the tournament when you're seeing.
Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
Most of most Of america seeding now would Have auburn
three or.
Speaker 5 (01:16:02):
Four i'm, guessing well then know the.
Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Odds we just we just expline On Ben, Parks auburn's
the fourth, Choice florida's the second, Choice duke's the, favorite
And duke is the favorite again because The east is
by farther, wikness it just looks like they're gonna clear
Through newark without all that much. Difficulty six to. Ten
by the, way who do you like, Here illinois Or? Kentucky, Mike.
Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
I'm going to go with, you, guys only Because i'm
rooting For. Kentucky, yeah me, Too So i'm A Mark pope.
Speaker 5 (01:16:28):
Fan, yeah why?
Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
Not like it wouldn't be great too if like they
went Like cow loses in the first round like three
straight years and Then pope goes there and takes them to. Whatever,
YEAH i, mean, look they're lacking a defensive issue of the.
Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
KID i, MEAN i love a. Kid williams And Mari,
williams a kid From. Drexel to, me they WHEN i
watched them last. Night, now admittedly they're Playing. TROY i
liked WHAT i saw last night more than What i'd
seen toward the end of the. Seasons were still.
Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
Playing he's gonna be in THE NBA mic because he could,
block and he could have been, playing and he can.
Rebatt he could have been playing at THE dak For, Yes.
Zach the thing, now did he have to remake his
team BECAUSE i know a few guys went To arkansas with?
Cal did he have an entirely new? So so he's
doing this nobody from last? Year okay that's WHAT i started.
Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Out, okay, yeah uh six' TEN TOMORROW I tft alabama
talk about contrast and styles five and a Half Over.
Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
Saint mary's alabama's trying to score. One Hundred saint mary's
is trying to keep you. Scoring fifty I'm. TAKING bama
I Like. SAINT mary's i just think this is one
of those Games where bama's offense will.
Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
Win Out, Uh, COLE yeah i gotta Go to. Bama Here.
SAINT mary's I Like. SAINT mary's. I do i saw
him beating over. One, year yeah the.
Speaker 6 (01:17:47):
Way they really have to struggle to win that Game
against vandy leads me to believe it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 5 (01:17:52):
For them to keep Up with. Bama's Offense saint mary's.
Irritates me THAT'S what i got from that game was
it was, very irritating.
Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
JUST because I don't i hate. The style it's obviously.
Very Effective randy bennett's done it. For years You're, In,
moraga california in the middle.
Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
Of nowhere you gotta do what.
Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
You got you get guys from all over, the world
and you're finding ways in your league to be one
of the two. Dominant teams and they've been had success IN.
The ncaa, but yes coming from behind It b vanderbilt
is a lot different.
Speaker 6 (01:18:21):
Than Playing against watching the, game, like please somebody. Make,
something yeah at SOME point i liked them in. That,
game yeah because again it WAS an sec team that.
Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Shouldn't even have Probably been but at some point during,
The game alabama's going to score fifteen in a Row
And saint mary's isn't going to be able to keep
up and. THEY'RE out I like, alabama too uh Seven ten, TOMORROW,
Night tbs maryland looked. GREAT yesterday i mean they.
Speaker 5 (01:18:48):
Were.
Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Phenomena Uh when.
Speaker 6 (01:18:50):
Marylin looks from, The Start when marylin, looks good they
look as good as.
Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Almost anybody yes giving seven and a half to a
team that's way better than. The Name colorado state Won
The mountain west and played the last six weeks of
the season like one of the best teams in.
Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
The country they've been.
Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
PLAYING awesome i love, the coach, My Man nico MEDVED
and i Love the. Maryland coach he's out there campaigning for.
More money, he says our administration is.
Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
A joke This Is. Kevin weller now his name was Mentioned.
WITH villanova i think he's probably trying To leverage marylon
get more money Out, of maryland get a. Better contract
is this a Game where marlin Did players i'm not
talking about the coach could maybe be looking past college
percent You.
Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Know, marylin yeah they're gonna think we're. Big ten We Got,
derrek queen We got. Juju Rees and maryland is a.
Classic example and This IS remember i was talking to
you before about mid. Major guys their star point guard Is.
From belmont you think he Can, help belmont but He's.
At maryland That's why belmont isn't any, good anymore. You
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know and they got another player who's on his way
is third school and four years another player Came, For Virginia.
Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
Cheff rodney once that genie's out of. The, bottle, yeah
three ain't no.
Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Going back I'm Taking colorado state plus seven and a
half against.
Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
The turn i'll Defer To. DICK kyle i like The
torps i've. Been, on yeah they've, been Playing but i'll defer.
Speaker 5 (01:20:18):
To him He's.
Speaker 6 (01:20:19):
Mister, Marylin yeah I'm gonna i'm gonna go full. PANEL
here I think maryland wins, the game just on.
Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
Pure town. GET scared I Love, derek QUEEN but i
think it's gonna be a.
Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
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i don't even remember They played frank so they, rolled
down and they're gonna think Grand Canon. Colorado state there's
no difference they've. Been in where's their next? Game at
where would they Go To? San francisco and they're.
Speaker 5 (01:20:44):
Probably already Thinking About san Francis.
Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Playing Florida if florida beat you or, You're oh i'm
sure they're Thinking. About, Florida sure and my guess is
they may just stay.
Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
Out there it's.
Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
TOMORROW night i don't Know When san, francisco is If
it's Thursday or friday.
Speaker 5 (01:20:56):
Next week but why are you coming home? And see that's? A?
Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
GAME funny i Would give berlin a Shot against florida
only because then they might.
Speaker 5 (01:21:04):
NOT care i mean. They might they wouldn't have anything
to lose in. That game now they got everything to
lose in.
Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
THIS game i think athletically they'd get Overwhelmed by florida in. My,
Opinion Look derek queen as talented as, he is and
he's probably the most skilled big man in college and quite,
some time he's not a great athlete when you watch.
Him LIVE and I didn't florida's. Got athletes florida got
athletes all over. The Place, all right we're gonna take
a break and we're gonna.
Speaker 7 (01:21:27):
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Speaker 5 (01:21:27):
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we were just. Talking about.
Speaker 4 (01:21:31):
That's fair they got this guards and all three of
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two three and four seats all made it, through sixteen, and.
Speaker 5 (01:25:09):
Um that's the first time that's ever happened, six times
six times.
Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
Nineteen, ninety four two thousand and two thousand, and four
two thousand, and seven. Twenty seventeen so there were no
four to, thirteen upsets no, three fourteens no. Two, fifteens
obviously it's only been to one, sixteen's ever.
Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
And seventeen it couldn't Happen because. Villanova lost oh you
mean in the. First round they lost in the? Second
round are? You listening are? You questioning i'm.
Speaker 5 (01:25:35):
The host i'm.
Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Thinking ahead and not only were they sixteen and oh
the top four seeds average victory margin twenty.
Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
Three points it.
Speaker 5 (01:25:44):
Wasn't competitive it's like it's like a. Women's Tournament, YOU.
Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
Actually i looked at some of their, scores today one
twenty two to.
Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
Thirty seven, it's like what are? We doing and they're
laying like forty but you're lay just laid.
Speaker 5 (01:25:57):
The points, so.
Speaker 4 (01:25:59):
Anyway just this round will clearly. Be better but it.
Just wasn't there wasn't a lot of pop.
Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
Yet feel coming into the tournament that at the end
of the tournament when.
Speaker 7 (01:26:11):
That.
Speaker 5 (01:26:11):
Happens, lining yeah but the teams that were really good
this year were. Really. Good, yeah no there's there's no
good not that they aren't good teams in.
Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
THE middle i.
Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
Got it you know there are understood Uh seven tomorrow
Night ON TRUE tv a couple of two teams kind
of under. The Radar iowa state minus five and a
Half Against. Old miss I've Liked iowa state. All Year
miss miss missing.
Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
One of their. Key players yeah he's not out for. The,
tournament yeah So An old miss would a would a
nice Effort Beat.
Speaker 5 (01:26:42):
North carolina Carolina.
Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
Sec.
Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
Big twelve guyle will start, With You old miss getting
five and a Half Against.
Speaker 6 (01:26:51):
IOWA state I think i'm gonna roll With The old
miss money line on this old money line money line?
Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
Like that what are you? Gonna do a little?
Speaker 5 (01:27:00):
OLD here i just uh plus one eighty?
Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
Plus, one.
Speaker 5 (01:27:06):
Yeah where's that? Game at where?
Speaker 7 (01:27:09):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (01:27:10):
Trust?
Speaker 5 (01:27:10):
Me NUTS because i DON'T know i used to know.
Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
What understood i'm just wondering if that might be a factor.
At all Generally, Isn't Yeah iowa state.
Speaker 4 (01:27:19):
Does, travel okay Probably Close iowa State since I'm. Thinking
milwaukee maybe except possible.
Speaker 5 (01:27:26):
Haang haang, BUT anyway i.
Speaker 6 (01:27:30):
DON'T know i Did Like iowa state, coming IN but
i just, think, again yes he sees, the stronger stronger.
CONFERENCE there i think with two teams that are rolling under,
The radar I'm gonna i'm gonna go with the.
Speaker 5 (01:27:42):
Upset here you have too Well to chalky. These, days
yeah give me the, old mess Old.
Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
Miss, MIKE yeah i have not real thought, on IT
except i kind of leaning a little Bit. Towards kyle
i've Liked The iowa state. ALL year i just thought
they were one of those teams nobody was really paying,
attention to and they were. Pretty good But WILL, MISS i,
i mean are? You're saying AND the sec, you know
they've played a lot probably. Better, teams Oh The big
TWELVES not, I mean big twelve is pretty. GOOD too.
Speaker 5 (01:28:10):
I think i would just pass on that GAME. IF
i i just don't have a real feel.
Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
For, IT yeah i Probably Take. IOWA state i don't
have any great feel for. The game either both teams,
very good very. Well, coached uh.
Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
And there's the player that's Out For. Iowa state. Really hurt.
Speaker 5 (01:28:25):
It, hurts yeah it's a it's a it's a it's a.
Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
Big deal but eight forty TOMORROW night Tnt, In Cleveland
michigan state minus seven and a half Of Or. New
MEXICO if i were, Betting today I'd Say richard patino
is going to be The next. Villanova coach but that
game Was in MILWAUKEE anyway i Was, TAKING yeah i assumed.
Speaker 5 (01:28:44):
It, Was Oh iowa state probably won more people.
Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
They travel well y way and you get to buy
the tickets and the teams. That, lost yeah my guess
is that it ain't gonna be that many People, from Ole.
MISS no i DON'T think i could. BE wrong I,
Don't oxford mississippi not not making the trip Up The
mississippi River to milwaukee not. Gonna Happen So michigan state
minus seven and A Half. NEW mexico a couple. Thoughts,
(01:29:07):
HERE one i don't know who stayed up. Last Night
michigan State played Bryant With philip Martelli phil son the
game of a, good game didn't they played in for
a while and then they got worn Out By cohen
carr had like. Fifty dunks they ended up losing by what?
TWENTY five i.
Speaker 5 (01:29:20):
THINK when i was listening to the game. Was Closed
michigan state what they points? A, half, yea yeah THAT'S
what i. Probably Said. Michigan state just they. Played ten
they wear.
Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
You down there are a team of role players Uh And,
jason richardson who is probably going to be A high nba,
Draft Choice jason Richardson's son uhzo has done a phenomenal
job because you look at them and, YOU go i
mean they have a couple of like. Inside players, you're
going why are they even.
Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
A lot of people have them going? Real far because there? Is,
wrong yeah thats it just does have. A chance this
is not he does have. A chance I Think new
mexico is live in. This game i've Been Anti michigan
state all, year long and.
Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
They win obviously they. Can win seven and a half
is a big number. To me down, TO seven i
think that's a.
Speaker 5 (01:30:07):
BIG number I Like new MEXICO plus i would LEAN
and I know, i DON'T and I.
Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
LIKE izzo, I mean i think what he's done, Is
PHENOMENAL but i think a touchdown seems like a little bit.
Speaker 5 (01:30:19):
Too much and it turns Out The mountain west has not.
Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
Bet Right colorado state GOT through uh this year and
they haven't been good in the tournament in, recent years
but they got to in.
Speaker 5 (01:30:29):
This way villanova can't make an announcement for. Another week.
Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
That's Right richard patino will be if, he wins unless
he comes out and pulls a like the guy that's
going TO N c state and, he, says, Yeah yeah
i'm going.
Speaker 7 (01:30:38):
To go.
Speaker 4 (01:30:40):
But he he wants. THE job I know richard has talked.
To that rick has talked to the athletic director On the.
Sun's Behalf, UH so i think that's. Definite Possible rick
patino has talked to THE a d, IT'S over, i mean.
Speaker 5 (01:30:56):
Should stay he's going to be Fine. In, norman No
if tino comes.
Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
To you and and one apparently one of the big
money Guys at Villanova, wants richard we'll. See, talks yeah
the money, guys are they're involved as. They does he
have a personality, very much.
Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
See that. THAT'S look I don't i'm not gonna sit
here In judge. Kyle's Coaching But mike sielsky wrote. A
column i think about a week and it was really hit.
The point, to me he's. Just vanilla he just wasn't
right and that.
Speaker 5 (01:31:26):
His foot that's one of The issues.
Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
Villanova had. Beyond one the winning and losing was the.
Biggest problem but there was just no. Community involvement. There,
wasn't look he wants to.
Speaker 4 (01:31:36):
WATCH tape i think that's the biggest mistake coaches. MADE
today i gotta go. Watch tape actually. You don't your assistance,
can watchward. NOBODY can, i mean just go take your
team out to, a move go. Have fun you don't go. Watch.
Tape again. It's. ABSURD though I know jay won, national
titles but before he won the, national titles He. Was
(01:31:57):
jay he was he was he, was villaneuva a villain
like he related to. Him Exactly and i'm, not saying,
You know kyle was in a. Tough spot let's.
Speaker 7 (01:32:06):
Be on a.
Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
Possible spot because it turned out And the villanova's got
a unique way of.
Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
Doing things they're basically a mom and.
Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
Pop Operation And jay wright just happened to be able
to overwhelm them all and went out and raised the
money For The, davis center Got The davis brothers to
put up, the.
Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
Cash and then they became the model program in the
country and geted two. Great hires Feeling A raleigh massimino
regardless of what you Think About rolin, ye whatever what
he did there was not And then jay, right Now
and i'm not knocking the, other people but again those, two, Highs.
Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
Well jay was the ultimate. Home run and keep in
mind after three years there were a lot of people wanted.
Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
Him, gone yes and you would have been gone in
year four if they didn't do what they did in.
Speaker 5 (01:32:47):
Her, fourth uh you got a thought on.
Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
This One michigan state minus seven and a half Against
the Lobos.
Speaker 6 (01:32:52):
In, Cleveland YEAH like, i Said the lobos were very
impressive Closing up. Marquette Yesterday but i'll go. CONTRARY here
i won't go. Full pen i'll Go To, michigan state
EVEN though i think seven and a half is. A
lot I Think michigan state gets it done and then
it gets really interesting for how they compete the. Next
ROUND because i agree, WITH you i wasn't Huge On
(01:33:12):
michigan state, all YEAR but i think they pulled this
one out and then next round it gets pretty interesting
on how.
Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
They, perform yeah it's, a question can They Wear new. Mexico.
Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
Out Uh new mexico's center by, the way as they
TRANSFER from i don't know where he played for Coach
fateam major and their point guard, to me is the
best going to be the best player on. The Floor
jason richards would may turn out to be the. Best
PLAYER but i think tomorrow Night In new mexico's point
guard's going to be deep it.
Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
All day that's. Super deep but they got enough and
you don't need to be super Deep With michigan state will.
Speaker 5 (01:33:43):
Be throwing That's what michigan if they if they, Win
tomorrow i'm gonna be interested to see what that next
points uh next spread is Gonna Be michigan state first
two teams that, we said you know moments ago that
we're under the Radar And Iowa State ole miss think that's. The, matchup,
yeah yep it's the two. Or three if the if
the so not.
Speaker 4 (01:34:02):
Stretching through that game Is, IN atlanta I believe i
believe that's itself.
Speaker 5 (01:34:06):
Not stretching it could get to the?
Speaker 4 (01:34:08):
Regional final is that is could you get to the?
Regional final could? It COULD which i guess if you're
the TWO seed, I mean i don't think he should
have been a.
Speaker 5 (01:34:15):
Two, seed no he.
Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
Definitely should not. Have been he certainly should have been
Ahead Of. Satan chimes that just tells me again That
the committee doesn't. Understand Basketball If michigan state and if
you you just watch the games and, you go which
of these teams is the?
Speaker 4 (01:34:27):
BETTER team i. Wasn't CONVINCED and i don't know if
this holds true. IN football i mean, it does but,
in basketball because there's more games goes by the name
a lot. Of Times michigan state has, a name has
a mean that.
Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
That depends you know, it does and they're in a,
name league in the, name LEAGUE and I don't i
don't know What The big east needs to do to. Get,
juice again this. Is irrelevant it's a. Historical Thing Since
michigan state won the title in. Two Thousand The big
east is eight to Zero In national championship eight and
Oh The big ten is zero to eight for those
(01:35:03):
who care about.
Speaker 5 (01:35:04):
Such Things but i'll bet if you as also.
Speaker 4 (01:35:06):
One a if you asked everybody in, the committee they
would not have a clue.
Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
About that that and.
Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
It's it shouldn't really, be relevant but it's telling you
something about the relative strength of. THE league i actually,
was laughing, AND uh i think it was Our Man,
seth davis and one of these things said That The
big east really wasn't very good.
Speaker 4 (01:35:24):
This year but, actually no actually. You're wrong actually was,
solid again it just doesn't have fifteen teams. In it
well they were. Twenty eighteen did have you Come that
yukon wasn't? As Good But saint john's? Took over What's
The big east one became the four in the last? Nine,
Years FOURNEE if i go back to four, and eight
go back to, twenty sixteen it's eight year of twenty
(01:35:46):
sixteen to twenty. Twenty four they won four. Of them
that eight years or nine.
Speaker 5 (01:35:50):
Nine seasons, Nineteens, too well that's half correct. Either way
you're batting a pretty. Good.
Speaker 4 (01:35:56):
Average correct and so there.
Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
You go final games, Tomorrow night, Big twelve, Big ten
arizona minus four and.
Speaker 5 (01:36:03):
A half i got, this one, both, TEAMS crush i got.
This one this is a pack, Ten, game, yeah sir,
pack ten pack? Over over what is the, Over, Number
kyle big tea score one fifty? Three over, oh, god
over that's only. Seventy five.
Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
That's it you're over.
Speaker 3 (01:36:22):
These teams both these teams want. To score arizona More.
Than oregon oregon doesn't play a. Hot, pace Okay But,
Tommy lloyd i'm Taking over arizona. Minus four what's what's
it's four and? A, half yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:36:37):
Big twelve this is, So bizarre, Big twelve, Big Ten
arizona oregon, packed twelve PACK whatever i have, packed, two, five, seven,
Eight whatever, Just, stupid kyle you got a thought on?
Speaker 6 (01:36:49):
This one, All right arizona on. This one be Surprised
if i'll be able to stay up for the entirety of.
The game but, we'll see. We'll see It's a. SATURDAY
night i might be able to live it up a.
Little bit, Sunday tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (01:37:00):
Sunday night. I'm sorry, oh, then, No no i'm. Not staking.
Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
You're done.
Speaker 5 (01:37:03):
I'm done. I'm. OUT no I like arizona in. This,
One yeah i'm not too Big. On oregon do you have,
A side mike on?
Speaker 4 (01:37:09):
This one? OVER heard i would probably Lean to ARIZONA
because i THINK if i think it's going to be
a high, Scoring, game yeah that Probably.
Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
Favors, Arizona yeah. I'm Guessing so I've seen oregon live.
Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
That's wit they.
Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
Do NOT if i keep forgetting they. Do not they
did not impress. Me athletically but they're kind Of like
michigan that they've won a million. Close, games uh they have.
Just kids Shel stad it is just a very good.
College Player dana altman has won everywhere he's been around for. Fifty,
(01:37:44):
YEARS yeah, i mean it's just he's a really.
Speaker 4 (01:37:47):
Really now, you know that's probably means to when you've
won a lot. OF clue, i mean you're involved in
a lot of. Close games so if you're getting four and,
a half that's a that's a kind of a.
Speaker 5 (01:37:55):
Big, number yeah but to talent, For talent arizona is a.
Speaker 4 (01:37:59):
Better. Team uh arizona was like they were really struggling
the back end of.
Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
The season they played great At Like, tommy lloyd of
course he's a longtime Assistant To mark Few at gonzaga
has done.
Speaker 4 (01:38:10):
Really well taken over what was kind of a dumpster
Fire When sean miller got blown.
Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
Up there it was not a good situation and they
Immediately became arizona, again overnight loot a. National, Power yeah
i'm Taking a wildcats minus four and. A half where
is This. Game seattle that would actually. Make sense but
that doesn't mean it has to.
Speaker 5 (01:38:31):
Be there remember when YOU and i did know all
of the.
Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
Eight places this is a four or. Five games but
we used to do, that now, YOU know, i know because.
The regions but they changed that like.
Speaker 4 (01:38:43):
Fifteen years Is that boise is the year They sent
Merlin and georgetown and a couple Others to boise and
order coaches Complained. And, Seattle yeah beheien got sent, there
too and Is? It boise he wasn't happy about What
the boise Choice with temple have never Been. To boise
i'm very just it's actually it's a. Nice place it's
just hard to. Get to, you know you can't get.
(01:39:04):
The boys you got kind of got to Go through
Minneapolis or.
Speaker 5 (01:39:07):
Denver or so many places. A night you there The, Blue,
field Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
The i'm telling you it's and they got mountains and they.
GOT it, i mean it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
Out there virginia has Officially Announced ryan odum as the.
Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
Head coach he's had a good hire.
Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
For, him look he's done well wherever, he's been and
you know why they want, Him. There mike that means
they can no longer beat THEM at unbc at a
sixteen to.
Speaker 4 (01:39:29):
One game he WAS.
Speaker 5 (01:39:30):
Coaching unbc so what he was.
Speaker 4 (01:39:33):
Saying today he was At the shamanad game because his
dad was on the Staff.
Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
At virginia when they Lost. To shamana yeah you love
this some radio, guy me, he says was that a
fifteen to? Two game and then guy who will know
it was Like The. Mali classic it was like What
Happened ralph sampson losing To shaman division Too or nai
ain't one of, the other, Right nuts but it probably
wasn't even a.
Speaker 4 (01:39:56):
Point spread it would have been like impossible to have.
A number i remember for. THAT game i was in
the office and IT ended i guess what like, twelve
whatever and we, were like what's What's? A shamanad like
what what? You Know BECAUSE virginia i think was ranked
number one maybe at. The, TIME yeah i think they were.
Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
Coming back they had made it like a Trip to tokyo,
or somewhere and they were on their.
Speaker 5 (01:40:18):
Way Back It's ralph, samsey man three time player Of.
The year you'd be no final force that could never.
Speaker 4 (01:40:25):
Make it they made the year after though after he
left after it's like.
Speaker 5 (01:40:31):
What so there's a of all the brackets put.
Speaker 4 (01:40:35):
OUT here i don't know whether THIS is espn or
where zero point zero zero four to four percent. Are
left that's it's see, to me that's amazing because of
all the chalk teams that.
Speaker 5 (01:40:46):
HAVE won i would have thought that more. THAN that,
I mean i don't know WHAT number i would have put.
Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
On it, but yeah so there's been thirty well account
in the play, end games just thirty. Six games that, Sounds,
right yeah so thirty six we got sixty. Seven total
we were talking about this off. The air what Do
they they want to pay you a million dollars for a?
Perfect practice should pay you? A? Trillion impossible it should?
Speaker 4 (01:41:10):
Know it literally all you have to go sixty seven And.
Speaker 5 (01:41:14):
Uh i'm going. To go i'm going to go you.
Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
One better and if you filled out a, million, brackets
yep if you had, the time are you you still
couldn't get a Perfect brac now.
Speaker 6 (01:41:24):
That's curious well the number you put the number, to
it it's like one in, eleven kintillion sixty seven.
Speaker 5 (01:41:30):
Sixty yextme but we're going to give you. A, million, yeah,
now man keep. Your money it's complete and.
Speaker 6 (01:41:35):
Total madness, uh yeah there we go one in nine point,
Two quintillion so thever many.
Speaker 5 (01:41:42):
Zeros, QUINTILLION yeah i don't. Even know it's a big lot, of.
Speaker 4 (01:41:46):
Zero a lot. Of zeros so THE best i, ever
DID and i always put.
Speaker 5 (01:41:50):
A bracket in the daily has eighteen Zeros. Every tuesday after,
THE thing i had to carry. The envelope I'd give.
Speaker 4 (01:41:57):
Mike the envelope at the breakfast and you take it
to the paper back before you could actually do things
and send it to people have, about THAT and i
think it was just twenty Sixteen when villanov eventually won.
THE title i went twenty nine and three in the,
first round and two of my three WORLD teams i
had in the. Final four so EVEN though i was
twenty nine, AND three i. Was screwed and one of
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those Days Was michigan state that lost is a two
seeds in middle tennis, SIXTH.
Speaker 5 (01:42:22):
Oh i think they.
Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
Screwed ME ten i was watching the Game in Spokane With,
saint Joseph.
Speaker 5 (01:42:27):
Not spokane he's not Smoking and i'm watching is what
are you?
Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
Doing here Is Your Saint joseph i've hated as Ever
Since saint Joe s joseph have won two games that
year lost the hurt and It, beat cincinnati and that
the game.
Speaker 5 (01:42:39):
Where they waited by the way.
Speaker 4 (01:42:42):
They did they bring you a little Tribute to John
on monday at The fine stein, who, yes yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:42:48):
GOOD good a.
Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
Lot Of john feinstein talk at Breakfast on monday At,
the pluster which may be Moving To Citizens bank park
next year because the.
Speaker 4 (01:42:56):
Acoustics was so bad In. The poluster nobody could. It's
hard we know none of our teams. Are in whether
there's that, PROBLEM too, i mean it's just not. THE
same i mean it used. TO be i was thinking
about this year. They game this is our time, of
year right we we it. Was exciting we always had
usually two, teams in, you, know three, sometimes three sometimes
(01:43:17):
none like the.
Speaker 5 (01:43:18):
Last, THREE yeah i, mean depressing it.
Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
Is depressed it was just it. Was, different said, it's,
just uh look that the game has unfortunately passed by
all the other five schools in, the City and vano
has now gone not good for the last. Three years and.
Speaker 5 (01:43:36):
WE'LL see i don't think there's any way.
Speaker 4 (01:43:38):
Back for any of the. OTHER ones i think it's
Just the temple needs a. DIFFERENT league i think they
would have a chance on the right.
Speaker 5 (01:43:43):
Link then they gotta give.
Speaker 4 (01:43:44):
Up football. That's right they're not going to. Do that
but it's what you said about. MID majors I Mean
sant jose's a. MID major i mean they might not,
thinking themselves but They. ARE LaSalle i don't Know What
la salle sal is a. Low major penn has been
The one torture has been the one tournament. Twenty years
chrexel has been the one tournament since. Ninety Seven saint
jose has. Some facilitator did they have? Some money they
(01:44:07):
just they're just not good enough and they. Had TALENT
but i think the Days where phil was going once every, Three,
years yeah it's hard to do because now it's a one.
Speaker 5 (01:44:14):
Bid league, you know they just you know.
Speaker 4 (01:44:17):
THE one i think it has the chance Other Than.
Nova's temple, you know if.
Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
Even, this Year If jamal mashbert hadn't, missed, games Yeah
And link greer was not on, the team.
Speaker 5 (01:44:28):
But basically the, whole year even though his Dad, was,
yeah weird.
Speaker 6 (01:44:32):
Weird situation by, the way it, goes, million, billion, trillion
quadrillion quintillion and they're only giving you a million to
million for a one in nine point.
Speaker 5 (01:44:44):
Two FIVE if i had A perfect I'M sorry i
had to get.
Speaker 4 (01:44:46):
That OUT if i had a perfect won, The million
i'd give it back. To him let's, say here this. Is,
RIDICULOUS yeah i don't. WANT to i don't want to
give me Some real this is.
Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
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