Sports Here, There, & Everywhere w/ Dick Jerardi & Mike Kern - 06/14/25 - Sports Here, There, & Everywhere

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on his way to Bosele in Switzerland. May or may
not be calling in to be determined. Kyle Nunnemaker is
parts unknown John.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
But the good thing is yeah, nobody has any idea
where he just disappeared.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
He's just gone.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
He's just gone. That's it, never to be heard or
seen again.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Maybe who knows both NBA Finals and the Stanley Cup
Finals are at two to two last night, and I
hope everybody saw it. And it's been a terrific series.
I know the ratings are not very good. I don't care.
It's great basketball. If you love the game, you gotta
love watching it. The Indiana Pacers were five minutes away

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from taking total control of the NBA Finals and they
finally blinked.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
You could see it in.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Their faces, you could see it in their body language,
you could see it in their offense.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
They just weren't running it.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
There's such a such a beautiful offense one those last
five minutes, John, it was all right ISO jump shots
late at the shot clock buzzer by the wrong people.
It was ugly and Shane Giljes Alexander showed you why
he was the MVP. He scored fifteen points in the
last five minutes. They couldn't guard, and he made a

(02:16):
gigantic three from the right wing. He made a couple
baseline drives, and he kept getting to the free throw
line and he did not miss. John, did Indiana blow
their chance at winning the NBA title last night?

Speaker 4 (02:31):
I would say yes. In most circumstances, it would be
kind of a resounding yes for me. But with the
way this finals has gone, with the way the playoffs
have gone, it just it seems easy enough that Indiana
could get in a spot even in the game next
game and be down five to ten points and you think,
there it is, it's over. They blew their chance. Now
they're about to lose this game, and then all of
a sudden they come back. So I have no idea.

(02:51):
These teams are having a lot of trouble, both of
them keeping leads and being able to maintain them. And
that's just I guess the pressure of the playoffs getting
to younger players and getting the players that haven't been
in this spot. I have no idea, but it is
the theme throughout the playoffs, and it makes me think that, yes,
they blew an opportunity in the Ada, after sure, but
every team has blown opportunities, and it seems like one
for Oklahoma City could be blown again in the next game.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, it's hard to make any pronouncements. I mean, let's
put it this way. If I were betting in game
in this series, I would be getting crushed because every
game I'm watching them, all right, I know what's about
that happened, and I'm wrong every time, and I've watched
enough basketball where I have a pretty good sense of
what's about to happen.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
It is.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
It is puzzling to me how quickly it happens, and
everything that has gone right for three and a half quarters,
all of a sudden they change something up, they get
maybe a little bit too tight, whatever it is, and
completely change everything they're doing.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, what was fascinating is I was watching the game
last night. I totally hated Oklahoma City's offense. I mean
it was strictly one on one ice o ball. I
felt like I was watching the Knicks again. I say, yeah,
what happened to passing? We're not doing that anymore. I
mean all they were doing was isoing Williams and Shay
at the top, at the at the nail or at
the top of the key, and it was over and

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over and over again. That's not that hard to goard.
But when you have great players who find their way
to make difficult shots, and on a night where Oklahoma
City made three threes and I think Indiana made like eleven,
you can't win that game. You can't get outscored by
that much on a three point line and win.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
But they did.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
And we're going back to Oklahoma City Monday night where
Okay see.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
His favorite but it is pretty amazing. Oklahoma City three
of sixteen from three.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
And Indiana was what eleven of.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Eleven of thirty six Yeah, I mean that's and it
doesn't even matter what the percentage is, it's more about
the volume. When it's thirty three to nine, you lose.
You know, Darris mentioned it on broadcast last night, But
I've been saying this for years. It's a math problem.
It's almost impossible to overcome. But how they overcame it
was getting to the free throw line. It was one
of the interesting were they have eleven assists last night?

Speaker 5 (04:58):
They did have a li eleven assists.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
That's a really low number, but you got to put
it in the context of they were living at the
free throw line. You can't get assists on free throws.
So the ball was getting the bos going in. But
having said that, it was one on one ISO ball
against Indiana's beautiful ball movement passing. The ball is flying around.
They look like the Spurs from like ten years ago.
But they stopped doing it the last five minutes. And

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that's the hardest thing for a coach when you're coaching
that game and your players are all of a sudden
looking at the scoreboard and in their minds they're going,
oh my god, we're this close to being this close
to winning an NBA championship. And I think it got
in their heads finally where they weren't playing the moment,
they were playing the entire situation.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
And that's when you get in trouble. And it cost
Indiana last night.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
Yeah it did.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
And I now Oklahoma because I still think they're the
better team of this year. Is they're the best team in
the NBA. And Indiana has been playing really well hanging
up to all these moments. But yeah, I mean Oklahoma
City kind of did, kind of did exactly. If you're
gonna lose one at home the way that they did
in the first two, this is the perfect way to
get back with it being able to beat Indiana. So
I mean, they they're they're in a good spot. Everything's great.

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It's just again, you know, in these these late game moments, uh,
they they have to start capitalizing a little bit more,
and it looks like they're starting to.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
But again, on the on the other side, of that,
you know, could it be another blunder like there has
been with the thunder in this and everybody in these
for sure?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, Sean or Johnny, correct me out if I'm wrong
about this. I don't think I am.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
I believe that Oklahoma City has now won Game four
in every series, including the last three on the road.
All excuse me, all four on the road Memphis, they swept.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Do I have I think I have that right?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
In the first round, then they could Game four in
in in Denver was very difficult. Denver had actually gone
ahead two to one in the series and they want
in Denver to get back to two to two, and
then they were.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
And then in Minneapolis it was a great game.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
They had just lost by one thousand in Game three
and it was really the game of the playoffs. Minnesota
played great and they ended up winning by like a
one or two or three in Game four.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
That he did it again last night.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I wonder how many teams in the NBA Hit Finals
history have won Game four on the road every time?

Speaker 7 (07:16):
Yeah, pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
There, critical game. I do have that right now, Sean,
you do you do have that?

Speaker 7 (07:20):
Correct?

Speaker 8 (07:21):
I also was gonna throw in shake oldes Alexander last night,
the first player in NBA Finals history since Jerry West
to have thirty five points in zero assists. That also
was the last time that he had zero assists in
a whole game. Was in the bubble?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Wow, we're talking five years ago? Oh my, that's crazy.
Was he still playing for the Clippers then?

Speaker 7 (07:39):
Yeah? I believe so. I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
That's the bubble. That seems like one hundred years. That
was five years ago. It seems like one hundred. The
Lakers won the title. So we're on to Game five
Monday night.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Ok see minus ten John on the money line, plus
three twenty five for Indiana, minus four thirty five Oka
se NBA champ. Oklahoma City's back to being not the
favorite they were when the series started. Obviously, their minus
five sixty Indiana's plus four hundred MVP sgs minus five
sixty at Bet Parks Albert and plus eight hundred sack

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them plus nine hundred.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Any of those bets appeal to you.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
I think what appeals to me is definitely Oklahoma City
just winning this one and on the spread. So they
seem to Now the pattern seems to be early on
in series. There's gonna be at least one game. So
it was game three against the timber Wolves where they
lost one to one to one by a million points
the Nuggets. They ended up going down to one one,
thirteen to one to four Memphis, the only series where

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they've been able to win in four, and then the Pacers,
same thing, they go down to one, they're able to
win game four. The pattern also goes they're able to
win game five. So they seem to really follow up. Well, Okay,
we either got back into a series, or we got
a hold of a series, especially after a bad game
like the timber Wolves, and are able to follow up
on that and be able to win that game. So

(09:03):
I think that is likely where I'm going to go
that they do follow up. It's a big win, momentum,
series changing kind of win and they're able to follow
it up and win this.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, and the reality is as good as Oklahoma City
is in general. I think they're five and four on
the road now in the playoffs and they're just they're
pretty close to unbeatable at home. They lost Game one
to Denver, and obviously they lost to the Pacers on
that incredible comeback. In fact, both of those games were
incredible comebacks by the road team, where Oklahoma City had
basically dominated the game for three and a half quarters.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
They at home. I don't want to say they're unbeatable,
nobody's unbeatable.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
But damn they're really They're really good at home, so
that it certainly.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Swings back to them. This does have a feel of seven.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yes, I'm thinking maybe Oklahoma City wins, Indiana wins, and
then we play a seventh game.

Speaker 8 (09:54):
Yes, yeah, I think this feels due for a game seven.
It's been back in the morth entire time.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
It feels like needs it.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
I'm up for that. You up for that? Sean? What
are you thinking?

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Are you still Oklahoma City just Indiana have a shot
at this thing?

Speaker 2 (10:07):
What do we up? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (10:08):
It definitely feels like they obviously blew a huge opportunity
to take this series go by a stranglehold. I just
have a hard time seeing this Pacers team roll over.
I'm in agreement that I think it goes seven, and
I think it goes down to the wire here. I
think a lot of Indiana's problems down the stretch were
self inflicted, which makes me feel a little bit better
about their outlook there. But at the same time, like
you said, Oklahoma City is as close to unbeatable as

(10:29):
you'll see an NBA team.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, they really are.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
I just the thing that when I watched Oklahoma City,
and I don't want to say I watched them a
lot this year, but I certainly watched them, their defense
was so good that it dominated teams and they would
get out and run and just crush teams. Well, their
defense is not narrowly suffective against this team because the
Pacers offense is like incredibly good. But last night they

(10:54):
really shown You're right, they really just they they detonated
themselves last night in the last five I mean, their
offense was I said, who are these people? But again,
I've seen that play out so many different times. But
I do think if I were betting at this moment,
I would take Indiana to win the series at plus

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at plus four hundred.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
Yeah, I'm giving that some serious thought there.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Now.

Speaker 8 (11:18):
The other thing that I point out is like my
biggest critique to this Thunder team is I feel like
they kind of sacrifice and game plan too specific to
this series. That you're the team that won sixty eight games,
you're the team that's the significant favorite here.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
Play your brand of basketball.

Speaker 8 (11:31):
We finally saw Isaiah Hartenstein injected back in the starting
lineup last night. He didn't play particularly excellent by any means,
but I thought making adjustments sort of in anticipation of
this Pacers team sort of strayed them from what they've
done best all year.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
That's fair, and I don't under The one player I
can't figure out for Oklahoma City is Cam Wallace.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I don't even he does to me. He's a non
event out there.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
Why is he?

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Why is he starting? I mean Caruso has been awesome, Yeah,
and he won the game.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
I mean had twenty point game in this of the.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
Solid five minutes from Isaiah. Joe too, Yeah, I jo.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
One of my But Sean, what am I missing with
Cam Waach? What is the why is? Why is he
starting all these games? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (12:12):
I mean it's kind of he was the guy that
was plugged in in exchange for Hartenstein for the first
two games there. It's he's a high level perimeter defender.
The three point shot comes and goes a little bit.
He's another one of these like in the long run,
he's gonna be very good. But I think he's twenty
one years old. You kind of see the youth with
him a little bit more than these other guys. I like,
I think that's the answer is they just wanted more

(12:32):
quick pace guys that can guard on the perimeter. But
I've kind of disagreed with this decision from the start,
and he certainly hasn't played very well.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, Now, it would be one thing if you had
somebody there that you felt like a guy who like
a twenty eight year old who played a lot of hoops,
who wasn't gonna be faced by the moment. He looks
like a kid who's just a little freaked out by
the moment, which I get it's a NBA Finals, you
understand that. But yeah, when the more you watch it,
the Pacers have the right formula to win this.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I can't say they're going to, but to me.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
If you were just playing it the right play as
the Pacers at the moment at plus four hundred, they
were plus six to win the series when it started. Well,
now there's the best of three and they've established that
they're competitive, and now you're getting four to one odds.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Is Oklahoma City the more likely winner, of course, but
you're getting four to one.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
That's the whole point at bet Park's that's why you
play odds favor so anyway, that's kind of the way
I would go, not necessarily.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Expecting them to win, but just because you play.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Numbers and you play prices, that's how it's supposed to work.
We'll get back to the NBA Finals in a minute. John,
I'm not a huge hockey guy, but I've been watching
this series and I don't I know nothing, so I can't.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
I'm not going to try to excedent anybody. I'm just
making it up.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
This has been fascinating, and Game five is tonight. Edmonton's
down three zero after the first period.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
The other night. You can't win an hockey doing that
against a good team.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
No, not only do they win, they come back to
lead for to three, then they give up the lead
with nineteen seconds to go, and then they win in overtime.
So Game five tonight, Florida is plus one oh two
Edmonton minus won twenty four tonight.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Your thoughts, well, Florida championship caliber team. They did it
last year. They look championship caliber. But Edmonton seems like
they can fly. And that all is obviously led by
Connor mcdavidp but if the fact that they can keep
this kind of so wide open so scoring it, it
seems like to me that Edmonton is kind of ready

(14:46):
for that that kind of series, and they I think
they're more capable in this kind of series. So yeah,
I'm I'm kind of with the oilers there minus one
twenty five.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
So and if you're interested in the series numbers, both
teams are minus one oh nine. So basically it's a
pick them at this stage, even though Edmonton.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
Which makes complete sense, right.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
I mean, they three of the games have gone over time.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
One game is a route and dry title is not.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
He's not the favorite for the MVP the con Smike Trophy,
but he's getting close.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
And he was ten to one when this series started.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
That was my recommendation, again knowing nothing but playing the numbers.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Right now, he's plus two seventy five.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Bennett is the favorite for Florida at plus one fifty
and McDavid is excuse me, McDavid is plus two seventy five.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Dry sittles plus two twenty five.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Opinion on the con Smipe, which is not just for
this series but for.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
The whole playoffs.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah, right now would have to be Dry setting right, Yeah,
I think Dry I mean the good and the reason
why Minton tire and why do you like him in
this game and I think they ultimately win is that
dry title and McDavid are like the two best players
on the ice yep at all times. So those those
two guys are incredible as long as they're leading the way,
leading the goal scoring. And this this series is as
wide open against scoring as it's been. Yeah, the Oilers,

(16:06):
that six to one blowout, it's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
But sports, Yeah, it's sports in a hockey lost by
forty means nothing.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah right, it means nothing. The next game, Oilers, still,
they come out firing. They were ultra aggressive on offense.
So yeah, I think Drycidle would be my pick as well.
But and knowing that this this series likely is going
to be a lot of goal scoring still and yeah,
before the.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Series started he was at ten to one, which I
found astonishing to me.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I mean, I don't know if he led the playoffs
and goals.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
But always with David, I imagine McDade was she was.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
A pretty heavy sha like maybe he might even have
been minus something if I remember that much. I was
thinking could be around there, which again it's and he's
obviously a sensational player, but it's all about what is
the public going to do? That's how that's how bet parks,
that's how they set their odds. It's not on what
they think. It's not on what the odds maker thinks
and what he thinks the public is going to do,

(16:58):
and the public is going to go to the bigger
name writing Connor McDavid's the biggest name in hockey, so
it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
And I remember just saying, again, knowing nothing about.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Nothing other than ten to one, I know that that
part I get for the second best player on a team,
and he was having a great finals.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
How are you on puck lines? John? Are you big
on puck line?

Speaker 5 (17:17):
Oh gosh, Now we're getting complicated.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
All right.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Florida tonight minus two forty five plus a puck and
a half, Edmonton plus one ninety five minus a puck
and a half, which I guess means Edmonton needs to
win by two goals.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Is that what we're saying?

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Yes, And sometimes what will happen is you get the
empty netter at the end that it's been going to
me the opposite way. It feels like in the series
that like teams are, the empty netters are working, so
they're able to get the extra guy in the ice,
they're able to get the lake goal and bring it
into overtime. So I can't bet on that. These have
been one one goal games for the most part. So

(17:56):
I am I'm staying far line. Yeah, and you're you're
not gonna put minus two for you whatever the juice
is on all that.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
So so we uh, we have the US Open to
midway point and the winner at this moment is Oakmont.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
The golf course is.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
By a mile, by a lot.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
We have one, two, three players under par and two
and even par at the midway point of the US Open.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
For the people that don't know where oak Mine is
when you watch the when you watch the broadcast today,
whole number one, there's a little bridge there that crosses
right over the Pennsylvania Turnpike basically the other side of Pittsburgh.
It's a little i want to say, north and west
of Pittsburgh for the people that don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
So you want to get in your car now, drive out.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Listen to us, and you can get the oak Mine
probably for the start of the third round for the
leaders and like what time are the leaders to.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
You off the theay, like the three five, three.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Thirty five, and we'll well, hopefully, but you know what,
we'll do our US open picks for Mike Kern, maybe
Mike Kern himself, but if not, John he sent me picks.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Ooh did he he did?

Speaker 5 (19:11):
That's good?

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, he need those. So but I have to read
you a few Mike current texts.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Is it about the course? I definitely want to hear.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
This came in yesterday.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Oh yes, we'll let you know what I might be
able to do tomorrow meeting coming on the air. Yeah right,
I believe my window over here is three to five.
I don't know six hours.

Speaker 9 (19:31):
Are we talking?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah? I think so. Yes, that's why you're saying.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
It's my nose three to five meaning nine to eleven
our time about when we should be checking into our boat.
We'll do my best to make something work, even if
it's for like fifteen minutes maybe more. Hey, I need
a US Open Punk pick if they ever play?

Speaker 7 (19:48):
All right?

Speaker 2 (19:50):
And then this morning at.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Six forty nine am, hearn not realizing that some people
could still be asleep. Could We'll let you know if
I can make three or so if not, I will
try for four. Hopefully one of them will work out.
Two seconds later it's going to be closed. So if
it doesn't work out, I won't tell you who he's
picking because we'll get to that later. And then his

(20:13):
mind's just spinning and he gives me a couple of
long shots or in this I sold this from Mike,
or you can simply bet on Oakmont to win. Right now,
it's looking better. Four may be better meeting ten for us.
I will be on a bus adding to the ship.
Unless other people on the bus don't want to hear
me talking jibbers.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Maybe they need us open picks though the people on
the bus.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
And then at eight point thirty two, as I was
getting here, I said, I texted him where are you?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
And he gives me gluser on our way to Bosele,
which I believe.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Is in Swisch nowhere any of those, and then he
goes if it's Tuesday, it must be Belgium. I know
at some point he's getting on a boat and going
on the Rhine River.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
That much of what a trip? Yeah, that's the curR man.
It's just like he goes to culture very traveled. He
is very cultured.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
Actually, he just it's not like he takes anything, absorbs
anything from these countries in places he goes. He just
brings Northeast Philly to these like so he's culturing them
just what a Northeast Philadelphia man is like.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
So baseball, which.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
We'll get into watching picks from John here a little bit.
The Mets now have the best record in the National League.
They lead the Phillies by four and a half. The
Phillies had an awful, like what ten days stretch where they.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Were just horrible. Uh, they seem to have right at
the ship a little bit. At the moment.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Neither the Dodgers nor the Phillies are leading their division.
The San Francisco Giants, who nobody saw coming or leading
the National League West. Uh, the Dodgers and the Phillies
are in the water are leading the wild cards standings. Yeah,
we're not quite at the halfway market, so I don't
know what all that means.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
But the Phillies win by last night one hundred to nothing.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
I just eat nothing, nothing, stopped watching it pretty much
over as soon as Kyle Schwarber hit hit one out.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
So the Phillies' biggest problem has been A relief pitching
and b inability to hit when it matters.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Is that A is a fair statements for.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Baseball runners in scoring position. They don't hit very well,
and bullpen's been an issue. I think some of that too.
You don't have Bryce Harper in the lineup. Kyle Schwarber
has been essentially your anchor, your lead and he was
struggling a little bit. So it does it's not a
coincidence that Schoerber starts hitting a couple of home runs
in the last few games. Uh, and they seem to

(22:40):
be a little bit easier scoring runs things. The floodgates
seem to have opened a little bit for them, So
I don't think that's any coincidence. Shoreber's been the best
part of their lineup all season long.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
They need him to be great.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
I mean, Trey Turner has been good, Nick Cassianis isn't
doing all that well.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Alec Bolm's been better. But it's just it's so.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
I was at two games this week against the Cubs
Monday and Tuesday, and it is really jarring to see
the Cubs lineup and they're slugging percentages like well into
the four hundreds. Some of these guys well into the
five hundreds. They're slugging really well. These guys are extra
base hits, they're they're hitting for power. The Phillies don't

(23:23):
have a lot of that. It is actually very minuscule
the amount of guys you can see that are mid
four hundred slucking percentage or higher. And Kyle Schwarber is
the only guy that really has a sucking percentage That
is dangerous. So that that, to me, is a problem.
I get singles are great. I get they want to
be that team. They definitely have shifted a philosophy on

(23:45):
how they want to hit.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
But you have to hit for extra base hits. You
have to.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
When I watched them play now, John, I can't quantify this,
but they're outfield offense.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
To be among the worst, that basic one, it has
to be.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
I mean, cas Kepler's not being gray, Cassianis has been progressing.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Center field there's a black hole. There's just nothing there.
But it doesn't matter who they put out there. It's just
not very.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
People getting actual arguments over who should be playing center field.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
Well that's both of these guys stink.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, neither one of them is right.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Rojas and Brandon bar Mars has been a little bit
better better.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
He got the game when he hit the other night.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
But yeah, it's just I mean, you think when you
think of outfield, you think of power extravases, home runs.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
That's that's that's what.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
There's so many great outfield backs, right.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
And they just don't have any of them, like zero.
To me, this team's window may be closed because of
their offense, assuming they get to the postseason.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
The pitching is the starting pitching is so great.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
It's just it's just it's been actually amazing the way
that Suarez has pitched now, yeah, recently. So then you
have a Soarez, Christopher Sanchez, he's useless. Ardent looks like
he's finally back whatever it was tipping pitches seem to
have worked. And then Wheelers, one of the best most
consistent pitchers in all bass.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Right, Nola is out for a while now with a
stress fracture. They're saying.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
So the point is, I think for me, they are
a contending team. They can win a World Series with
this team because there aren't a lot of teams like
they have we've seen. They can compete with the Mets,
they can compete with the Dodgers, can't compete with it,
just it.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
Comes with certain conditions.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Kyle Schuber and Bryce Harper need to be the best
two pitters in the lineup at all times or else
you're not going to get too much out of that lineup.
And starting pitching needs to absolutely dominate the entire way. Yeah,
those are two tough conditions, but the thing is they're
they're two conditions that can.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Be They can't do that.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
The other problem is, and it manifested itself with the
playoffs last year, John is the you can't have a
bad bullpad of the playoffs. It kills you, It killed you,
It killed them last year inst the Mets. I mean,
it's it's a disaster. And now no Albarado and really
nobody that you feel super confident throwing out there at
the moment. That's a problem because let's steal in reality,

(26:02):
they're not gonna be too many complete games in the
playoffs as in like zero, it's just not happening.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
You're playing against better teams.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
No, it's gonna get short of these guys.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Are you're gonna fill a lot of last that the
bottom two guys in your rotation are probably only gonna
go four or five and the top two still like, yeah,
Wheeler can go six or eight maybe, but yeah it's
six or seven. You're gonna need your bullpen. And that's
that is a very unreliable part. So Kirkering has been great.
So and the thing about bullpens too is it can
dramatically shift in a year. Absolutely that the bullpens are

(26:33):
yeah even I think the best example always of that
is gonna be the Washington National till they won the
World Series because their bullpen was by far the worst
in baseball. When they got to the All Star Break,
they were one of the best in baseball. Afterwards. It
is a very thickle thing. It changes all throughout the year.
I just think, though they do need to get another arm,

(26:53):
even if things were to change, I still don't think
they have the firepower enough of it to be able
to make it work.

Speaker 9 (27:00):
Power.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Look, their window may have closed when they blew that
series against the Diamondbacks when they really couldn't lose, and
they'd have been against the Rangers where it'd have been
a fifty to fifty shot to win win the World
Series the year before when they lost to Houston. Look,
I Houston ultimately is probably just a little bit better.
That wasn't an outrage, and that was a shock that
they got there. And the other reality is for the
last year. I'm talking like from this time in June

(27:22):
last year and this time they're five hundred baseball team basically, right,
I mean that's.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
What they are. Yeah, they it's been average for quite
a while.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
And I know this is baseball and there's going to
be hot and cold streaks, but they seem to get
that at a much more higher degree than most teams
because it's almost like each each half a year is
a big difference from one another. And so right now
there's still forty and twenty nine, still like really good record,
Like everything's really good.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Right, it's terrible. I mean, I had the best record
in the National League. We're here two weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yeah, the conversations we're having is right anticipating, you know,
once you do start getting into these games.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
So what do you have?

Speaker 4 (28:00):
And I think bullpen is a big issue. I think
middle to bottom of the lineup more like five through
nine is a really big issue and that needs to
be fixed. So I just don't know who's going to
step up if they can't fix it. But those are
those are definitely issues right now, but again it's not
like full panic button for me, because again, if as
long as certain conditions are met and those guys that

(28:21):
I'm talking about can meet them, they will be fine.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
They can absolutely win.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
So one more topic, we'll get to a break, but
we'll drill down on everything the rest of the show,
including yes, it's gonna happen two weeks from Wednesday the
NBA Draft. Sean will get Sean Bernard's thoughts on it
is going to happen June twenty fifth.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Do I have that right? I think I have that right.

Speaker 7 (28:43):
That's correct.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
There you go. There's a story on ESPN dot com
by Right Thompson about Aaron Judge and look up his
numbers while we're talking here to shock and I will
gladly look at this place in like Yankees history, and
it's an awesome piece.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I recommend it to everybody.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
It's it's it's a baseball history piece. It's it's talking
about the stadium, what used to be there, Luke, Garrig,
Babe Ruth, all the great Yankee names up to and
including Aaron Judge, who has now done everything that every
great Yankee has ever done except the one thing all
great Yankees do, which is what a World Series?

Speaker 2 (29:24):
What? What are his numbers as we speak, child.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Pretty wild At the moment, he leads I think the league,
yet leads the league in war. He has twenty six
home runs, sixty RBI three, ninety average on base percentage
of forty five, a slugging of seven to eighty, and
a very Barry Bonds esque one point two sixty five OPS.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, I mean those are Hall of Fame numbers.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I mean there's a time those are Barry Bonds numbers
from the area seventy three home runs.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
I mean the fact that he's gonna have So this
is lining up.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
If like these things were to hold, obviously they could
change who that's what he's gonna end up with officially,
but this would be four straight years with an OPS
over one thousand. Very difficult to do, and not a
lot of players have done that, especially in modern baseball
like the past ten like five.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
To ten years or so.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
I remember looking at looking this up like Bryce Harper
is in a very exclusive club because he's done it
a couple of times, but doing it four years in
a row is even more difficult. And Aaron Judge done that.
But then you get into he's not only had an
OPS over one thousand, but one point one five nine
and now a one point two sixty five this season
so far, if he would have finished with somewhere around
a one point two yeah, where I'm talking about. This

(30:42):
guy is one legitimately one of the most feared best
hitters in Major League Baseball of all time.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
So he's got a realistic chance of winning a triple
crown this year.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
Yeah, average is a good chance of winning everything.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
He has the batting average, on base percentage, slugging uh,
he has war he has He has the most hits
in baseball. He has the most home runs in baseball.
I don't think I think he has the most RBI
in the American League, but not in baseball.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
This wasn't the gist of the story, and again it's good.
It takes a little while, but it's beautifully written.

Speaker 9 (31:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Thompson's one of the best out there.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
It's it's worth if you have a spare fifteen twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
However long it took.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I mean it's several thousand words. It just it takes
you through the history of obviously baseball's most significant franchise,
and you can argue sports most significant franchise in the
history of sports in this country. But it brings you
right up to the modern day. And then it says, hey,

(31:44):
here's Aaron Judge and he's batted two oh five in
the postseason. It's like the one thing, you know, he
needs to become Reggie Jackson or Mickey Mantle or Derek
Jeter or these all great Yankees who in the bigger moments.
And it's harder to do that now than ever, extremely difficult,
and base because of the great pitching. You're playing against

(32:06):
the best teams. They're throwing seven pitchers at you. They're
all throwing one hundred miles an hour. It's brutal, and
there's the added pressure that you're trying to.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
That's that's the thing, too, is in baseball, for some reason,
we add and heighten the pressure for individual players in
a sport that is completely not individual baseball, you need
more than one player to be really good to be
able to win. And so that's why, like I hear
this conversation with Bryce Harper all the time. Well, like
Bryce Harper didn't get it done. You know, it's partially

(32:36):
his fault. It's the reason he's not like a Jalen Hurts,
Like this guy has had incredible like some of the
best postseason numbers I've seen over the over the time
span they've been in the postseason. What what that's That's
the thing about baseball is.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
Like what more do you want?

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Because in football, yeah, maybe you can get you know,
a little extra yards or you're passing the ball more, whatever.
But baseball, it's just the guy is well above everybody
else and is hitting, like we already ridiculous numbers to
begin with, Like what more can you ask if the
guy right, I just don't get.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
How you can get a home run? Just send your
franchise to the World Series.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Not that loss like a couple of years whenever people
treat baseball individually like that, like the Mike Trout thing.
Oh well, why can't he get the angels of the
postseason because they stink. He can't pitch, Like he can't
pitch for nine innings and then also play in the
field for nine innings in every position work.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
It's too hard.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
A lot of topics will as I said, we'll drill
down a bunch of them. We'll get into further in
the NBA playoffs. Who we like a little bit about
hockey tonight? Who we like John will have some baseball picks? Uh,
Mike or mayor mccurr. May or may not call in.
We don't know from a ship who knows, so I
can't wait to hear the stories if he does.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
But if he doesn't, I have his us open picks.

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Speaker 3 (35:23):
All right, John, let's get into some selections here. Oklahoma City.
Let's go on the line. First minus ten Monday Night
game five n OKAC against the Pacers.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Big number minus ten.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Yeah, that number scares me a little bit, so that
all the things you talked about. I think Olkahoma City
is a better team. They seem to follow up really well,
and they're at like at home. Everything's good. So I
think the situation. Yeah, I get why they're that line,
but everything in this year is telling me probably not,
so I will go on the on the spread, I

(35:59):
hate this.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
I probably go Indiana, even though I'm gonna get this wrong.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Look, I think the fact that it's Monday is helpful
for the Pacers. You need an extra day to recover.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
From what happened last night.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
That is not something you want to get on a
plane at seven o'clock this morning and fly to Oklahma
City after that fiasco, you know, and do media today.
They can do it tomorrow. They can get there tonight
and then do it tomorrow. So I think ten is
a big number. Again, in watching all the games, I
think the Pacers they're in the vicinity of Oklahoma City.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
They're not a ten point underdog on paper. That's the
right line.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I don't have any problem with the line, but I
think they have a shooter's puncher's chance to cover the spread.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
John, I'm with you, Sean. Where are you on this
game Monday night?

Speaker 7 (36:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (36:46):
I think I'm back in the Pacers on the plus
ten there, And to be honest, I'm not entirely ruling
them out winning this game.

Speaker 7 (36:52):
I do think it goes seven.

Speaker 8 (36:53):
It wouldn't overly shock me if these boat teams both
went on the road here. I think they're both mentally
tough enough to do so. And I do wonder if
it's kind of a wake up call from the Pacers
perspective for how last night ended.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yeah, no doubt you get And if you're into that
plus three twenty five, if you just want to bet
on the money line, it's a good number.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
You get a little over three. It's a nice number
for the Pacers to win the game out right, And
you can do this.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
This is kind of a play. Play the Pacers plus
ten and take the money line. Yeah. The only way
you get hammered. Obviously it's a vocalhomics said, he kills them.
Then you lose both bets. But even if you lose
the money line, bet you cash on the other one, right,
and you and you get basically get it.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Let's say you bet one hundred on each you lose
the big on the on the Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
I think the plus you know, three to one, that's
a great number. It's a big number, and I would
usually in a game like this where I'm just saying, hey,
it's gonna be a little bit closer than the spread
is saying, and so why would you not go money line?
But I just think that the money the money line
actually kind of makes sense to me, and it's right
where it needs to be because all of the factors
leading to this game. Again, they're at home, they follow

(38:00):
up really well after game four, it seems like, you know,
the situation calls for Yeah, Oklahoma City's probably the team
that should be fevered pretty heavily in this one. Yeah,
it's just that, Yeah, if you want to take your
shot on the money line five, But I think that
number is right where it needs to be, so I
don't feel enticed all about.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Here's two other bets I would recommend, and again I'm
not picking Indiana'm.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Strictly on the numbers.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Pacers plus four hundred to win the series, I think
is a more than reasonable bet. Again, they were plus
six hundred when it was zero to zero when they
had to win four games.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
They don't have to win four games anymore. They got
to win two.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Somebody's gonna win two here and it could be them.
Do I think it's likely to be them? No, but
you're giving me four to one that it could be them.
And also in addition to that, I'll throw this after
the panel. Who's if the Pacers win, who's the more
likely MVP? Haliburton plus eight hundred, Siakam plus nine hundred, John.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
Oh, that's a great question.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Maybe Holliott's really close right now.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Yeah, was the MVP by one vote in the Eastern
Conference finals.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
It was five to four. There were nine people voting.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
I would say Halliburton's probably just going to have more
memorable moments. I mean, the numbers are going to be comparable,
and Sam, I think probably I would lean a little
bit just been the better player. But when you're making
late game shots in the Heroics that Haliburton pas.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
Yeah, I think that that plays a fact there.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Sean, if you had to pick a player, if you
think Indiana. Again, we're not saying Indiana is going to win,
but you just may get the best of the which
most to the numbers are at bet Parks, which is
how you're supposed to play in life.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Halliburton plus eight hundred, Soka plus nine.

Speaker 8 (39:39):
Yeah, I think Tyres Haliburton is to play there, and
I think the way that he's doing it in like
a ton of different areas, Like I mean in Game
three finishing with twenty two points, eleven assists, and nine rebounds,
He's kind of impacted the game in a lot of
different ways, and I honestly think he's had a little
bit more success than I expected against this Thunder team.
So he's the engine of this team has been excellent
as well, and also the guy that finds different ways
to impact. And as far as like, the book's not

(40:00):
given respect to this Pacers team. Even before yesterday, with
the Pacers holding a two to one series lead, the
Thunder is still minus two twenty favorites, which is pretty crazy.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, it was amazing. I wonder what that was like
at the beginning of the fourth quarter last night.

Speaker 8 (40:16):
Yeah, that'd be interesting to see. Even the live line
I kept an eye on throughout. It never like got
it was still backing, okay, see pretty favorably, Like going
into the fourth quarter where it was I believe it
was a seven or eight point game at that point,
might have been six, but it was still only plus
one fifteen plus one twenty for the Thunder.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
To win. That fascinating.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
One of the things that coined this phrase years ago.
It's more a horse racing thing, but it certainly applies
to sports. I call it the acronym is lrip redputation
induced phenomena, Like there'll be horses they can lose if
they were once great, they could lose two or three
races in a row and they'll still get bet.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Same with this.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
To Shawn's point, Oklahoma City can be out played for
long in the game last night, but the reputation is
they won sixty eight games. Indiana's really not that good.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
But what you have to evaluate, Yeah, bolts are not
gonna get burned by good teams being good, and you'll
eventually get good, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
But what what people don't get is the Pacers are
not what their final record was in the regular season.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
They're not that team.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
They haven't been that team since January. They've been you
can make a really good case they've been the second
best team.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
In the league.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
Yes, and believing that for most of the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
So you wait a second. I've been burned a lot
by it, and.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
I mentioned this, I don't know, a couple of weeks ago,
people forget because the Celtics won their series in five.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
The Pacers had many chances. Sean, correct me if I'm wrong.
They didn't. They have a chance to win several of those.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Games in the Eastern Conference Finals last year, Yeah, against
they lost the Celtics.

Speaker 7 (41:52):
Yeah, they ended up being swept, but it was every
game went down to the wire there.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Okay, they got swept. They didn't win a single game.
I forgot that.

Speaker 7 (42:00):
I'm pretty sure I'll fact check myself there.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
But fine, But yeah, I remember Celtics.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
I remember Jalen Brown hitting a wild three in the
corner to get the get the Celtics to ot, I
think in one of the games. But it felt like
the Pacers were more competitive than the final part of
the series, where Dallas wasn't competitive at all.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
In the vital they just got They just got rolled,
as it turned out. All right, hockey.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Tonight Edmonton minus one twenty four at home Florida plus
one oh two.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
With the stipulation that I don't certainly I'm not, Sean.
I don't know where you are on hockey. I know
less than nothing.

Speaker 6 (42:39):
Nothing.

Speaker 8 (42:39):
Sean knows nothing, Yeah, not much. And just to put
a bow on the Celtics Pacers. It wasn't sweep. One
game went to overtime and two games ended up three
point losses.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
There there you go.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Yeah, so again a gentleman sweep. You know you're we'll
let you hang around, but you lose in the end.
But that the Celtics are just that good. They were
always gonna win.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
But that told you.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Because the Pacers had a bad two months to start
this season, everybody said they're a flip. Well or they're
clearly not a fluke. This is a legitimate team and
this group's gonna stay together for a while. And I
haven't yet mentioned who doesn't love TJ mcconnle loved him
when he was here, hated to lose him. You know,
he's a huge fan. I'might have mentioned this on the show.

(43:22):
Jimmy Lynham loves TJ McConnell. He was comparing to me
one time to Murray's jokes, which is high.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
Wow, very high. That's extremely high praise.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
But I mean, just as he made in Game.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Three, I've never seen this in my life where he
stole three inbounds masses what I mean, one of them
went from Caruso where he caught it and laid it in.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
That's like something you see in like middle school.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
Oh yeah, that's when, like, you know, my my eighth
grade cyo team who was not good going against a
better team. Yeah, it's inbounds, and that's the time you
see it. But not in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
So I love Tea Jay, love the fact that his
dad is there, his grandfather. It's just it's it's awesome
for him, and I'd love to see him win an
NBA title. But you know, I'm not rooting unless I
decide to go over and bet the Pacers at four
to one, then I will be rooting.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
But there's just so many great stories.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
And here's some X sixer on the other squad, Isaiah
Joe not as much of a factor any other X
sixers in this series?

Speaker 8 (44:21):
Am I missing some of julil okafor will technically get
a ring for playing a handful games with the Pacers
this year they win?

Speaker 4 (44:28):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (44:28):
And obviously Isaiah Jah.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Isaia Joe, who could forget what do you played? Would
you say? Played five minutes last night?

Speaker 9 (44:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (44:34):
The good solid five minutes.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
I had already gone winning five minutes, all right, I'm
taking Edmund to tonight, Yes, minus one twenty four.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, and again with the understand please listeners.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
Do not go to the neck.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
I just think with the two goal scorers leading the
way and er I sit on David, that it's it's
a lot of firepower and I think they end up
getting the advantage in this series.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Shoot, Sean, we need to pick from you on hockey.
I know, I know you're as sharp as I.

Speaker 7 (45:01):
Yeah, I'll go with Edmonton as well.

Speaker 8 (45:02):
That I will say the McDavid speech in between the
after the first period when they were down three, nothing
that fired me up enough to believe.

Speaker 7 (45:09):
So that's pretty much all I got. That's my motivation there.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
And keep in mind, it's not unlike again with the
understanding that hockey is so completely different for sports like
basketball and football where you score a lot of points.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
It's not unlike the Eagles and the Chiefs. Right, Eagles are.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Really angry that they lost two years ago and they
just took it out on the Chiefs Edmonton. For the
people that forget, they lost in seven games last year
in Florida, so they have not only did they want
to win the Stanley Cup, it's.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
The team that beat them last year. Before we get
to the break.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
John we mentioned before the last break, Aaron Judge, and
you were putting some of his numbers up his career
up till this point. Pop that up for me for
a second, Like, I'm curious what he's like thirty three.

(46:08):
I think I believe his contract goes until he's forty.
He signed one of those eight bazillion dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Contracts a couple of years ago.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
I remember there was some discussion whether the Yankees or
ever were going to actually sign him or not going
are you serious?

Speaker 4 (46:21):
He was almost a San Francisco giant apparently. Remember putting
to Johnahanvins like a second.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Like, how is that even possible?

Speaker 3 (46:28):
So historically, I'm curious where his numbers rank at this
stage of a of a career as a thirty three
year old, because he must have he's only been in
it's only been in the majors like for ten years, right.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
He didn't come up that as like an eight nineteen.
He wasn't like Bryce Harper. No, it's at all.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
And I know there were some years, especially the first
like three or four years, he wasn't like this, Aaron Judge,
he is he started to hit this prime, this current
run that he's on and like again, I think it's
an all time one of the best hitters major league
grun for the past four years. But that's when it's happened.
It's been since then. I'm trying to get the numbers.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Sometimes we love the fact that sometimes the internet goes fast.
So he's born in April twenty sixth of nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 7 (47:15):
He was twenty four when he made his debut, so
he's only been in the.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Majors for ten years.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
That's fairly old these days, twenty four to make your
major league debut.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
So six time All Star, two time AL.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
MVP, first player in American League history with sixty two
home runs Frankie Roger Morris's sixty one year old record
of sixty one six foot seven to eighty two.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Anybody know where he played college baseball?

Speaker 5 (47:45):
Did he play college baseballly?

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Did Fresno State?

Speaker 1 (47:51):
No way?

Speaker 5 (47:51):
He was a Bulldog.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Selected with the thirty second pick in the first round
of the MLB Draft.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
About that.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Him were the first thirty one him in Derek Carr
just elite Fresno State.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Athletes, FRESNOE State. Yeah, you could I could have put
that out there. Nobody's gonna know the age born in Sacramento.
So is career batting average two ninety five.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
That's already ridiculous. It's interesting for a guy that's considered
a power hitter.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
So John.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Twenty four hits, which is not an insane number. Three
hundred and forty of those are home runs. That's kind
of an insane number.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
Yeah, that is insane. It's pretty fast. I wonder, how
so really his.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Numbers at this stage career numbers, I think up to
your point, John, it's really been the last four years.
He's always been a very good player, but the last
four years he's become a like a.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Legendary Yeah, legendary. So, yeah, he had a good year
in twenty seventeen. He's had good years, but he he
was like a little slightly below I would say, like
a Bryce Harper type player like could be an MVP discussion,
is not always going to be the top of those
MVP discussion. He's hovering around like a nine nineteen ops,
nine twenty one, eight ninety one, nine to sixteen.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
But the last four years.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
In twenty twenty two, that's the first time since that
twenty seventeen season he had an ops over one thousand,
but it wasn't just over one thousand, it was one one.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
Uh, it was eleven eleven.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Twenty seventeen, he was a unanimous Rookie of the Year
and he was second in the l MVP voting.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
I'd like to know who won it. Fifty two home
runs that year as a rookie, I.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
Was a L two bay won it.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Oh they've got that's fun, A fine player and there's
a player.

Speaker 6 (49:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Judge didn't win his first MVP until that twenty twenty
two season when he had the sixty one home runs
and he resigned. That was with the acts one to
this actually seems like he's underpaid nine year, three hundred
and sixty million dollar contract. What's that come out to
forty eight year? I have that right, nine times four expressed.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
Not half a half a bill. I mean, that's that's
the kind of player. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
And if it wasn't for shoeh being the unicorn that
he was and such a fascinating player, I think we
would be able to appreciate a little bit more how
how different Aaron Judge is. Yep, because it's a guy
that has like all five tools. But he is a
six foot seven, two hundred and eighty two pound player
in right field that hits for a career to ninety

(50:22):
five average, but hitting for a right now with three
to ninety bat Yeah, that's crazy. Like the fact that
he's able to make contact consistently, powered, consistently at his size,
Like it's a it's remarkable, the kind of player like
just you don't see a lot of a lot of
that in baseball.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
Not a lot of guys his size hitting that well.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
So here's some more history on Aaron Judge.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
It was actually selected in the thirty first round of
the twenty ten MLB Draft. If life had worked out differently,
Johnny could be playing in his hometown of Sacramento. He
was selected by the Oakland A's in the thirty first round,
and he opted to go to Fresno's.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
Okay, Billy Bean made a good call play in the whack,
and he was.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
A freshman All American. He played in the Cape Cod
League in his junior year. He led Fresno in home runs, doubles,
and RBIs. I would hope so he was named at
the Hole Conference teament. I would hope, so I would
hope so. And then of course the Yak's drafted him
then and he was in the minor leagues.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
For a number of years.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
That look, I wonder what was one point eight million
dollars signing bonus? What was the thing kind of holding
him up? And you know the fact that he had
to go back to college baseball. That yeah, he wasn't
considered this like crazy clear player because again, the size,
to me speaks for itself. I mean he's he's a
six seven and eighty two pound athlete, Like, did he

(51:50):
get that way in the minor leagues? Did it take
time for him to build his body and not only
that to be able to use it in a way
that is consistent enough in Major League baseball. It's just
it's fascinating because again the size, Like you look at
that player, you go, man, I feel like I could
do anything with.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
So played for the Charleston River Dogs in twenty fourteen, John,
I know you've been to many of those games. Oh yeah,
and then the Tampa Yankees of Class A advanced in
the Florida League. He was invited to spring training in
twenty sixteen, and he began the season with a Trenton thunder.
We could have seen Aaron Judge like fifteen minutes from.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
Here, wouldn't that been me?

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Nine years ago in Trenton of all places. Batted two
eighty four with twelve home runs at sixty three games
for Trenton. Then he got promoted to the Scranton and
wilkes Bury rail Riders. Isn't that a Phillies team?

Speaker 10 (52:41):
Now?

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Scranton wilkes Bury. I've got I can't keep up with it.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
In the International League, batted two twenty four with eight
home runs scrant Wilkesbury. What invited to the spring training,
but he went back to Triple A, did not make
the All Star Game because he was on the disabled
list to seventy with ninety home runs, and then he
gets MLB debut August thirteenth and twenty sixteen, so he

(53:10):
has not I mean, he has not been in the
majors that long and he had he had to go
through it. He wasn't one to automatic. Yeah, that's what
about that.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
It just surprised me again with him, with a guy
that has all those intangibles that it took so long
and like he he definitely it seems like he needed
that work to be able to come that player.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
And he had a home run in his second MLB game.
How about this his debut season for the Aggies one
seventy nine, struck out forty.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Two times in ninety five plate appearances.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Amazing And now the next year he was the Rookie
of the Year and the rest obviously is history.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
All right, here's what we have from Europe.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
On what body of water during the break you were
gonna call Mike Kerr beautiful, I'm on a bus, don't
know how loud I could talk, might not be able
to put us.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
On speaker Please don't yeah, please, don't be patient with me. Patience.
Group leader could be on the speaker phone and he says,
I'm ready. Well, we're not. We're going to break. When
we come back, we may or may not have Mike current.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
We will have golf picks though, Yeah, well, no matter what,
we will.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Have to Mike's golf picks, even if Mike isn't made.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
Just how they will be delivered is in question.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
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Don't go on speaker phone.

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Speaker 2 (56:04):
Mike Kern is with us on the phone. Where are
you and what are you doing?

Speaker 10 (56:11):
I'm not in New Jersey, Ohio, Michigan or any of
the states that you mentioned. I am in Switzerland, which
is would have never been a place I would have
picked up. But my son's father in law always wanted
to see this and it was really cool. So we've
done four days in Switzerland.

Speaker 11 (56:31):
We're heading from Luzerne to Basil Basil, Basil Basil to
catch our hands, where we will be in for the
next seven days. We were actually for two days.

Speaker 9 (56:42):
We were at the place where the Iiger is, the mountain,
the big mountain where the Dick and I are old
enough to remember a movie called The Eiger Sanction.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
The Matter Horn.

Speaker 9 (56:55):
Yes, we were, we were already placed. I'm eating way
too much chocolate. Don't tell my doctor.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Please.

Speaker 11 (57:06):
I know it's tough nowadays, you know, I'll tell you
the So I go away and until we start playing
well again, you know.

Speaker 9 (57:13):
And you've got two great series going on, right n
h O n MBA, So yeah to two.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
So let's get into your golf picks. We are halfway
through the US Open, Mike, and you mentioned it to
me and I I quoted you. The winner at the
moment is Oakmont. Uh there, it's just we have three
players under par and do it even Park. Let's hear
your picks for the US Open. As we're midway through.

Speaker 9 (57:41):
Well, the pick is Oakmont because Oakland is going to win.
It was amazing. It was like four guys yesterday and
one of them was my guy, xanderschoff League, who in
the afternoon just like threw up and I needed to
see it. So I don't know exactly what happened, but
like they were all four over them. Everybody was four

(58:02):
over Scheffler, Kepka, mom my guy. Shortly, I guess Michael
and maybe was too.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (58:11):
Poor Bryce and de Shamba he's gone. The guy I'm
looking at with what is left in the field that
I can see, Victor Hoblin is two back. He's five
fifty to one. Of the guys at the top, he's
the best. Now what that means. Victor a year and
a half ago, two years ago was one of the

(58:31):
best offers on the planet and then you sort of
went away a little bit. I don't know if he
had an injury or if it was whatever ailed him,
but he's good. But the two other guys I would
look at if you're not going to go with Hoblin.
Kepka is twenty two to one. I know he played
like crappyshe but everybody played like crappy. He's five back,
and he's won two of these and he's won five majors.

(58:53):
I know he hasn't won major in a year and
a half, two years, but you know, and the other
guy is John Robbin. John mom blew up yesterday. But
again we saw what he can do with the PGA
when he gets in the mood. He's won a couple majors.
So and having said all that, somebody like Ben Griffin
is probably going to win the thing. So yeah, it's

(59:15):
just it just looks like Oakland is beating the crop
out of them.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Yeah, no doubt so to Mike's point, Hovelin is plus
five point fifty or five and a half to one,
ROM twenty twenty five to one, kept get twenty two
to one, so.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
You get pretty good crisis. Sam Parns as the leader.

Speaker 9 (59:31):
I'm having trouble hearing you. I apologize, but I can't.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
That's how you're asking me a questions and that's fine.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Just any other thoughts about the US open, Just run
it by us and we'll let you get out of here.

Speaker 9 (59:44):
Thanks again, I'm sorry, and I totally apologize that. For
some reason, the US open as well as me hearing me, we.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Can hear you. Fine, We're having no problem hearing you.
Just talk. Yeah, I think that might be. Did you
hear us? No better? Hella, that's a problem when you're
in Switzerland on a boat, that's a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
We got Mike's picks, which is the most Yeah, that
was the most important.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Mike, will let you roll. Don't worry you next week.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Uh, and just tag up the phone and we don't
want to hear anybody else on the boat.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Sean get lose micause it ain't good. We don't know
what could come out of his mouth at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Anything could happen, but factfully we have it to like,
thank you Mike for your picks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Do you have a selection in the US Open.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
Here, John, I'd probably just go Hobling.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
I just I'm interested yet kind of what you would
look for, and of course like this, it just seems
so unpredictable and just the way the course plays, like, Yeah,
I think Hoblin, he's a very good striker, and maybe
that'll play well in a tournament like this and then
a round like this or the kind of core, but
it just seems unpredictable.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
Yeah, and at any point this course is gonna eat
anybody up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yeah, it's fascinating.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
I mean, these are obviously the greatest golfers in the world,
and a number of the really big names he mentioned
d Chambeau, Luba g a Berg, and they didn't make
the cut. I mean, Rory Fine would look like he
was gonna miss the cut. He had a good finish yesterday.
I want to say he's plus six, which is not
necessarily out of it. No like Burns just today.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
So even Scottie Scheffler is plus four, that's not it's
not out of it, like if.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
He shoots like two under part of that he's gonna
be He's gonna be in. It might be the final
group tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
U burn's what he shot like and wedict like sixty
five yesterday?

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
Yeah, yes, say sixty five yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Parse seventy sixty five on that course is like shooting
fifty nine apparently on a normal course. And I always
find it fascinating every these guys the normal PGA Tour
events minus twenty five, minus thirty. I mean, yeah, if
you're you know, have eight birdies in a round, you
got no shot, and then they make this one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Tournament a year where it's just a bit impossible.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
It's impossible, Yeah, especially.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
At this course because it's so long, and if you
don't hit it in the fairway, and I was watching
some of it yesterday, like I mean, I can't hit
it out of the fairway.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
I mean even when these guys can't hit it out
of the.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Rock and it's even and it's even around the greens
and on the green where you know the ball is
unpredictable and the speed it's going to take, how much
it's going to take off, so like even a small
miss and a putt could be a huge margin then
and you're you're looking at a longer distance. And that's
the difference between maybe not even just a part of bogie,
but like a birdie in a bogie in a hole.

(01:02:41):
Uh so yeah, it's it's just around the greens. Any
small little mistake it just ends up costing you way
too many strokes. So it's it's fascinating to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
So we got we got Mike, Mike Currents picks it
had sent me a text earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
He says, she won't stop talking, and then he said.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Have to. I won't mention what he might have to
do to whoever it was that was talking. Uh, I
can maybe do one segment, and I just got another.
I couldn't hear you. You could hear Sean, And then
he says, go Hoblin or Keepka or rom could at
least could you at least hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
And the answer is yes.

Speaker 8 (01:03:20):
I was trying to relay it to him through the
talk back, which he could kind of hear there, but
then it ended up getting confused, I think on his end.

Speaker 7 (01:03:27):
But he was very apologetic.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
No, no, no, not a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
He did.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
He did his best.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
He's on a boat in Switzerland, and even modern technology
can only do so much. It's it's quite understandable. But
we got his picks in the golf, which is the
most important, and he's been very good. But the best
part of that Mike is he can be right, but
then he'll say I was actually wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Yeah, and he said, so he gave it a pick
and he was like, still, you know, somebody like Ben
Griffin is probably gonna win.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
My pick has no chance. He's very kind.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
I think he's on the right track with Hoblin.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
He's the opposite of me. Uh where, I'm telling you
my pick can't lose, and they often do.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
I just assume every pick of mine is gonna lose.
I think I'm with Kerrent.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
I could, I could fire away even confidently, and I
still think it's gonna just not gonna happen. Everything can
look like it's gonna make sense, it should make sense
and doesn't make sense, which is why, which is why
we love sports.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Right, speaking of picks, down, we have reached that time.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
I believe you're a resident baseball selection expert. Before we
get to your selections for today, if you had if
you had a pick, in fact, I'm gonna look this
up at bet Parks and we'll get to it a second.
If you had a pick a team today to win
the World Series. Oh, we're closing on the midway point

(01:04:46):
of the season. I'm sure the Dodgers are still the
favorite to win it all. Yes, they were at bet Parks.
Who would you pick it at this point? I have
a thought about it, but I'm curious where you are
on that.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
Is a great question. Yet I would.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
I would still probably go the Dodgers because once once
pitching gets healthy and especially Show Hate gets healthy, Which
is funny because Show is already healthy and he's contributing
a massive amount to.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
A team, but still he can contribute another, you know,
in another great way. So yeah, I would.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
I would say, just one a way to see if
the Dodgers can get healthy. And I still think they
are the best team. But I am slowly maybe getting
convinced here that that we got a pretty good Detroit
Tiger's team plus and I hate to just go with
a team that just has the best record, But when
you have a guy like Tarique school Bull who was
leading the way, and then their lineup finally guys that

(01:05:40):
they've been bringing up for the past couple of years
starting to hit really well, even guys in the rotation,
like Casey May's pitching, like everything that you that you
were thinking, Hey, this is what Detroit might have in
the next couple of years, and it just kind of
wasn't working out. You didn't see the full vision of
where it was going. Finally all came together at one time.
And when that happens, that is extremely dangerous. And it's

(01:06:03):
happening at the right top for roll So.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
At bet Parks.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
At the moment, Dodgers plus two twenty five so is
still a very very heavy favorite. Yankees plus four seventy
five Detroit, which would be if you said give me
a pick today, they would be my pick.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Plus six fifty I think they.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
I mean, in a short series with school ball, nobody's
beating him unless it's a one nothing. I mean, the
guy's unreal. His typical game is three inch twelve strike
ass no one.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
So it was an all star game gonna be school
ball and Schemes starting.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
I would get somebody, please get Schemes out of Pittsburgh,
get him in Detroit. I mean, yeah, could you imagine,
I mean, this guy is wreck could you imagine he
sub five hundred is record?

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
I think he's I believe it. I think with an
era of like sub he didn't. I don't even think
he got the win they won yesterday. I don't think
he got it was nil nil late. I know he
gave up the one run. Then the Pirates tied it
in the top of the ninth and I think won
in the game.

Speaker 10 (01:06:58):
Win.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
So Detroit the third choice of plus six fifty, the
Cubs at plus nine hundred, Mets Mets at plus nine hundred.
And tell you what, the Mets are pretty damn good.
There's nothing fluky about them. The Phillies are ten to one,
then San Diego, then Seattle seventeen to one, seventeen to one.
But yeah, I would take today, just that, just just
today now, I would take Detroit.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
I think they're the right price.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
If they were, if that lineup and those players were
in New York or LA, they would be the favorite today.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
Probably if it wasn't, if it wasn't the reputation of Detroit.
They're Indian what people think of when they see that logo.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Yeah, they're the Pacers e em.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
I mean even right now, I think their lineup is
hitting the best or like as as it has been.
But still they sit in since June, they are seventh
in a metric called runs created Plus, and in wOBA
I think they're around seven as well. So it's a
team that's like a top ten lineup in baseball consistently now,
even when they're not doing the best, consistently looking like

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a top in line up in baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
What's leading the way is two young pitchers like Casey
Miies and Tarik Skubel, with Suble being like the best
pitcher in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
That's that's that's a great recipe.

Speaker 8 (01:08:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
For the people who've been around a long time, and
even those that have you'll know the name. He's like
Sandy Kofax. I mean, he's like unhittable, unhittable, completely get.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
You got no chance.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
He's got the great fastball, and he's got a change
up that you have no it's ninety nine and then
it's seventy five or whatever, the change up eighty five.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
The fastball can get up to one hundred, and he's
gotten there late.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
In games and he's left forgetting and he's right now.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
Yeah, absolute freaky stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
For those that are interested in managers, I'm not a
big fan. The manager is a.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Jynshew is the guy who was at Houston when they
won the first of their two recent titles.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Correct, he was the trash gan guy. He got fired
because of the trash Cans done.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
And we're gonna have John's picks for today in a
second once I get him running around the internet.

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
But I believe, yes, he was with Houston.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
I think that was he was the manager when they
beat the Dodgers, when he was the trash can guy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
The trash can I mean, the team was yeah, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:09:14):
It's just funny, the trash gang guy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
But he knew nothing right, Nobody knew anything.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
No, nobody, nobody except the trash can is the only one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
So Phillies in the Blue Jays today at four down
and son, Philly, what do you got for us today?

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
John on the on the baseball four So.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
I'll start off with that game, just to go over
the Phillies game. I don't know if I'm going to
have a strong play in that one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Bet Parks minus won sixty seven Phillies plus one forty
three Toronto.

Speaker 5 (01:09:41):
But I do like how they've been hitting the past
couple of games.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
It's a really great series win against the Cubs that
they had now Toronto to start off and ate nothing
series victory. So the last two games their line has
been great. Now, the tough thing with the Phillies is,
I have no idea that translate into a third game
being able to hit well or at least consistently the
score four or five runs win. But Sanchez's I think
pitching better. He's down to a three point one zero ERA,

(01:10:04):
a one point two nine whips, so everything's starting to
even out with his numbers a little bit, I would go.

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
I would go, I don't want to go.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
Money line minus one sixty five is high, but I
would think the run line, I have to say one
minus one sixty five is high.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
I think it should be higher. You have the pitching advantage.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
The lineup for the Phillies is comparable to Toronto, but
Toronto not as good on the road. Phillies really good
at home and starting to hit really well at home
over the past couple of games, past three games, really,
so I think the Phillies they're they're right here to
win this one, and to win it by I think
a large margin.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Again, So yeah, minus hit the plus one thirty on
the road, right, minus one point five plus one twenty
five plus one thirty with the Phillies. But yeah, if
they win by more than one run, then you don't
have to lay minus one sixty seven.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
Yeah, at the whole point, the bullpen you would worry
about for games like that when you're taking a one
line with the Phillies not being able to take advantage
all the time with run nus in scoring position. That's
how you can go from winning a game eight nothing
or eight to two to only winning a game, you know,
four to two or making it closer. If you're not
taking advantage of runners in scoring position, but they've been
able to get on base, it finally looks like they're
knocking it through. So that issue hasn't been a problem

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in the past two games, and I think it's not
for this one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
So here's an interesting parlay for this game. I don't
think you're gonna like it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
But Toronto plus one on the run line Shoorb over
point five hits, Sanchez over four point five strikeouts, Schreb
over point five RBIs thirteen to one.

Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
You might as well put a home run in there.
Sure's getting a RBI.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
I'm just that's not what's being offered at bet parks.

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
Yeah, I'm just that's a.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Thirteen to one. But you don't like Toronto, that's no.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
And I feel like you'd get a better home run
number than you win an RBI number, so I would.
I would make your own parlay. Then my favorite ever
bet like that was I can't remember the name of
the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Adam Sandler was gambling like a wild man uncut gems,
uncut gems, and his final bet before he gets blown
away at the end of the movie, it's like a
it's like a four in game parlay deal and the
first part of it is winning the jump ball, and

(01:12:22):
if you lose the jump ball, you're out. Well, he
wins the jump ball, and if anybody has watched Uncut Gyms,
he wins everyone for an insane amount of money, and
then I'm sadly it's and I don't remember the whole
plot anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Then he gets blown away at the end.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
Yeah, I have not seen it. I don't plan on
seeing it, so you can spoil it. Probably, Yeah, I
am not. I'm a movie guy. By the way, that
you're right if you know this, I did not know that.
And I'm not a huge fan of the director of
the movie. I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
I think.

Speaker 5 (01:12:49):
I think they're okay movies.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Yep, Adam, I'm a.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
Big I do like Adam Sandler. I do like when
he can get a little bit dramatic. He see he
was when he was here in Philly with the playing. Yeah,
I haven't seen Hustling yet because I just thought, no,
I thought, I I do want to that I've it's
finally because everybody got too excited, Aroun. I hate when
people hype movies up that I know aren't gonna be
that good it was so I could just I could

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just watch it randomly on like a Wednesday on Netflix
and be able to just enjoy for what it is.
But the thing is people expect so I'm a movie guy,
and they go, oh, what's this is really great movie? Like,
I know it's gonna be okay, So you're just gonna
get an opinion out of me that you're gonna go, well,
why do you think that?

Speaker 5 (01:13:29):
So I just I let it go. I let it
have its space, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Sean, because it's not coming to me quickly.

Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
So So the did you like the movie Hustle, Sean?

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Filled up a hoops guy, who was the NBA player,
who was the who was the guy that the Sixers
had or should have drafted?

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
I remember the plot anymore? Who wasn't in real life?
And what the hell was his name in the movie?

Speaker 7 (01:13:52):
Is Juan Hernon Gomez? Was him in real life?

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:13:57):
What was the movie name?

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
It was a cool name too, and and and the
plot was that Adam Sandler was a scout for the
Sixers and he knew something and nobody believed him that right.

Speaker 7 (01:14:11):
Bo Cruise Boa Cruise, Yes, my.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Man, Cruise. By the way, there's now a horse named
boat Cruise running around.

Speaker 7 (01:14:18):
Anthony Edwards in the movie's name was Kermit too, which
was he was great?

Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
And Kermit Wilts apparently, And and my man, do you
know what Bobon's name was?

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
I do not.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
And it was.

Speaker 5 (01:14:31):
Played himself and Doc.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Rivers it was when the Doc Rivers was here with
the Sixers. I mean, the Sixers had a lot of
cameos our friend Anthony Garganos in the movie Toias Harris Okay,
among among.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Other build up his sports personalities.

Speaker 5 (01:14:45):
Uh, but look, how weird. It's just so weird that
why did it have to be the Sixers just because
it Sixers. That's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
So what Sean, what was the plot again, I'm just
I'm not remembering it clearly.

Speaker 8 (01:14:58):
Yeah, Essentially, he was a scout guy an opportunity and
saw this dude basically like playing on the street and
hustling guys over and I forget what even country, Brazil
maybe or something like that, and that was Bo's character Argentina.

Speaker 7 (01:15:10):
Yeah, that's probably right.

Speaker 8 (01:15:11):
And then he this is kind of like him trying
to save his job is bring him over to the
United States, and he's taken him to the Combine and
goes through the whole process where he's competing and then
ultimately he ends up you know, Like that's basically the
plot of it is him trying to get this guy to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
The league, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
And he's trying to get the people with the Sixers
to believe in his guy so they select him.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Is that what we're talking about?

Speaker 7 (01:15:34):
Yeah, yeah, so it's it's this Stanley Sugarman. What's his name?
So he was a that was Adam Sandler in it.

Speaker 8 (01:15:41):
So basically, yeah, his career was on the line that
he wasn't under like in a good spot, and this
was like his lottery ticket of like this can save me,
So he's really showcasing boat cruise and trying to get
the Sixers to believe.

Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
I just have a problem with taking any of that
so seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
It's a movie, so you know, you don't have to
take it seriously.

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
But like the movie that even the movie, the movie
synopsis just sounds utterly ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Well it was totally absurd.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
But Adam Sandler loves people that don't know, loves basketball,
plays by all accounts all accounts, a pretty good player,
and loves the game, is at around it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
And also by all accounts, it's a really.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
Nice person, not like one of these movie stars that
won't talk to people on the street. And Sean in
the end, do they end up they don't take him
and he goes to the Celtics.

Speaker 7 (01:16:28):
That's correct.

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
Yeah, that's like, wow, okay, this is complete recon tatum,
you know, Yeah, that's how it ends up.

Speaker 8 (01:16:38):
And then like the I think the final cut was
like Sandler sitting in the crowd watching him play for
the Celtics aver he's been fired in that kind of thing.
So it wasn't exactly like a feel good, happy ending,
but a great movie for sure, I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
I thought it was fun. I watched it probably on
I don't know Netflix or somewhere, but yeah, I had
no problem.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
At all with I can't wait to see all like
the the product placements that were used, and it like
a Philadelphia businesses I imagine like Fed Donuts will be
in it, or like a primo.

Speaker 8 (01:17:10):
Hogisias Parris is in it, Kyle Lowry's in it.

Speaker 7 (01:17:13):
And uh to the point about.

Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
Product placement for the Sixers, product.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Placement in what your This movie's been out for a
while now.

Speaker 5 (01:17:23):
I saw June third, twenty twenty two, so three years.
And it's a shame.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
It's a Netflix movie, so it didn't go to theaters.
It just went straight to streaming. Even though I feel
like a big basketball sports movie would work well on
a much bigger screen.

Speaker 7 (01:17:35):
The basketball scenes are very cool in this.

Speaker 5 (01:17:38):
Noah, I think it just went straight to streaming.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Interesting. Okay, all right, so John, you got another baseball
picture for us?

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
Yes, I have plenty of baseball, So I'm gonna go
with the Milwaukee Brewers over the Cardinals. Cardinals entering with
a bit of a losing streak and they're facing Josey Kintan,
who's been pretty good for the Brewers. One point three
to two whip two point six six four and one record.
Saint Louis Cardinals on a bit of a losing streak.
They have lost their last five. Brewers have won three

(01:18:07):
their last four. Both teams aren't hitting necessarily well. They're
especially in June. They ranked towards the bottom of Major
League Baseball. But that's kind of where the playing field
gets a little bit. Even Cardinals lineup is better, but
pitching is better for the Brewers. So if the Cardinals
lineup is going to play down to the Brewers, I
like the Brewers in this matchup. We have talked about
Aaron Judge, so that means we have talked about the Yankees.

(01:18:30):
Yankees minus one, seventy five favorite. I do not think
that is high enough. So I'm gonna go on the
run line, which is even Carlos Rodan on the moundo
point nine to four whip. Anything under one is elite.
So that's a really great stuff from Carlos Roddon the
Boston Red Sox. The Red Sox better.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
As of late.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
Okay, whatever, they're fine, it's still not very good. So
I'm gonna take the Yankees and just the firepower that
they have in their lineup. They only scored one run
last game.

Speaker 5 (01:18:58):
That was last night.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
I think they're able to chick that judging, yes, and
then they lost it in extra innings. But I think
you're gonna see a little bit more of that firepower
against Hunter Dobbins of the Red Sox, who's just a
fine pitcher four points two zero ERA one point two
eighty fifth. But I think the pitching matchup favors them,
and I think the lineup is able to explode for
some runs.

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
I'm going with the Yankees. I was really close.

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
I think I'm gonna stay away from it, but if
you do want to take a bet, it's the highest
plus money line that I liked, plus one forty. San
Diego on the road against Arizona. That gown has not
been good this season five point one five ERA. Berger
on the mound hasn't pitched a lot, only fourteen innings
for the Padres, but so far the fourteen innings that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:34):
Looked very good.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
Arizona's been great in the last four but I don't
trust them overall. So in in a matchup like this
where Allen's kind of struggling, his win loss record is
four and eight. You could probably get even though the
Padres aren't playing all that well and Arizona is. I
think this is where you can sneak in a Padres win.
They are the better team still and you can get
a plus one to forty in the road. So I
like that, and give me the Giants as well on

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a big plus money line. Plus one forty five. Clayton
Kershaw on the mound, so they're getting it's the Dodgers
at home. They have Clayton Kershaw, so they're getting a
bit of like reputation, reputation, but it should not be
this high.

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
Rupp on the mound?

Speaker 9 (01:20:11):
Are you?

Speaker 5 (01:20:12):
Rupp?

Speaker 9 (01:20:14):
Is?

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
How you spell that one three point two down era
one point three six whip? He's actually been better than
Clayton Kershaw. I think Giants had been playing excellent baseball
some of the Dodgers, but if you're gonna give me
a pitching matchup that, I think they were San Francisco
a little bit, and San Francisco's been playing just as good,
if not better than than the Dodgers. I think plus
one to forty five is a really great price.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
I love that, bet, I love the reasoning and I'll
tell once a little course racing story John and Sean
before we.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Get to the break.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Nineteen ninety two Kentucky Derby, one of more than thirty
I covered for the Daily News. There's a horse who
had won the Breeders Cup race six months before at
Churchill Bowns, named a Rosie.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
He was a foreign horse. He looked when he came
and won. He was undefeated. He looked like the greatest
horse in the history of the sport.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
I mean, like unbelievable the height I thought when he
after he won, and I do you know, I got
data that I look at numbers. I thought after he
won that he was a potential fraud. So for six
months I'm just salivating waiting for the Derby because he's
going to come back and run.

Speaker 5 (01:21:22):
The next year, and you know everybody's gonna go nuts.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
Correct. So he had he had some surgery in the
sixth It's like a couple of months before the derby,
a really really bad side. He's now back in France. Right,
there's no foreign horses that have ever come and won
the Derby. But because he had already won in the US,
everybody said it's insane. So he he runs one time

(01:21:48):
in France on the grass, not on dirt, and wins,
and I actually see that the video of it, and
it does nothing for me. So I'm going to Kentucky
and I can't wait to bet against this bump, and
the whole week when the horse and the trainer get there,

(01:22:08):
their trail around like he's uh, well the President.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
Like the king, like he's Michael Jordan, Like this horse
is already dominated horse racing.

Speaker 5 (01:22:20):
It's the greatest horse to ever live.

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
One of the other trainers at a great line when
the presses all walk in mine the worse on the
way of the track one day says, it looks like
the Boston Marathon, you know, all these people gather around,
and of course every time I'm loving it because every
day I'm writing that he's a bump, that he's a.

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
Front, and of course everybody else is writing the carry
out he can't lose.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
And so I finally settle on a horse to beat him,
named pine.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Bluff, great name, because he's got the numbers he's going
to be. He's probably fifteen to one, and Rozzie was
like four to five. Bet five dollars win four and
the morning of the race. I'm staying with a buddy
of mine was in between jobs, and I said to him,
look in years to come, every time we get a

(01:23:05):
super hyped horse like this, we're.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Gonna say he's just another Arozzie.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
So they run the race and a Rozie makes this
Jack the same movie he made in the Breeders Cup.
He passes like fifteen horses, like in a blink. He
gets to the top of the stretch and he collapses.
He finishes like night Wile.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
And Pine Bluff.

Speaker 8 (01:23:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
I think either finished second or third. And I got
a huge bet on him. The horse that wins his
name Lil e T. He's the first ever Pennsylvania bread
to win the Caitaroh. The second, of course, is Smarty Jones.
So two weeks later, a Rozzie is now going back
to Europe. He actually showed up again for the Breeders

(01:23:51):
Cup that year, and I bet against him again and
he finished nowhere again. And the next week in the Preakness,
who wins the Preakness job Pine Bluff?

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
I was, I was by two. Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:24:04):
Lily T apparently scored one of the biggest upsets in
the history of the Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
Derby that day, a legendary writer won more racist than
anybody in the history of the racetrack won one Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
That was it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
He won with Lily Cee nineteen ninety two and a
Rozi the biggest fraud in sports. To your point, that's
why your story about their kershaw is obviously not a fraud,
but is being like hes.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
Exactly and and the Dodgers as if they were like
a much better team in San Francisco.

Speaker 5 (01:24:35):
None of that is remotely truely right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
And if I could.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
Recommend anything to our listeners about how to gamble, those
are the best gambles there are. Find something, oh yeah,
where somebody or something is still being evaluated by the public,
and which is again that's how the line is going
from like they were once what they once.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Were and they no longer.

Speaker 4 (01:24:58):
I think one of the the better examples of it
early season NFL football, if the team starts off to
and oh they're talked about like this the next year. Yeah,
and teams come off on reputation coming into the year,
so yeah, you get a lot of that. I think
NFL is one of the best examples because any small
line change means so much for sure, and and and
just any way a line is set, it means so much.

(01:25:20):
So like a half a point means everything sometimes in
the NFL. But a team like Dallas gets reputation even
though they haven't won a lot. Still they're going to
be the most bet team, They're the most known team
in football, and they're gonna get the money to move
those lines.

Speaker 5 (01:25:33):
So yeah, I completely agree.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Yeah, that reputation and obviously matchups.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
If you really understand sports now, I will tell you
that I don't understand this NBA Finals.

Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
Well, I have not understood any If you have listened
back to any of my picks on here of the
NBA playoffs, I have been incredibly off.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
Yeah, like I said, I would only I mentioned it before.
I don't only take Indiana at this point because that
the number plus four hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
But if I told you I had any idea what
was going to happen, I would be.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Making it up, other than the fact that Indiana is
a lot closer to Oklahoma City than me or just.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
About anybody even probably how I anticipate right now, I
bet they're they're probably just.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
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Sean Bernard knows more about it around these parts than anybody.
We'll talk about it last week, we'll talk about it
this week in relation to your Philadelphia seventy six ers.
And the more I watch these finals, in these playoffs,
the more I think how fun, how far.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
Away they they could get the number two pick. Now, yeah,
that and Dylan Harper, I mean, let's hear it, we'll
hear it. Sounds like finals to me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
We'll hear the latest. Right after this, we'll be back.

Speaker 5 (01:27:25):
Spreads, totals and all the prop that's in between.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
It's the gamble.

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
I love the.

Speaker 7 (01:27:36):
And the way the sunlight plays a partner.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
A lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Favorite beach sports. I said, good vibrations.

Speaker 5 (01:27:53):
Good Vibrations is great.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
It was a It was a retrospective on basketball the
ESPN and the number of view and one of them
was about the great John Wood in u c l
A team and they led it with this salt.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Which was in that era of the great UCLA team
for that yeah, yeah, that era.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
And they showed their cheerleaders out. If anybody's got short,
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the people that don't know what that was like. But
that was the That was the California sound with the
California team. And still kind of hard to believe that
any team in any sport now, I know the Celtics,
the NBA, but the win a little different in the one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
You lose one and you're out.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
The UCLA basketball was able to win seven consecutive titles
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years they didn't win, they didn't make the tournament because
all their best players are freshmen. And then the other
year they lost to NC State in a game they
had won uh in law to double overtime, and.

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Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Sean.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
There's been a lot of rumblings this week about the
Sixers and their pick and moving up and moving down
and who they're gonna take and trades.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
What is the latest and what's real here?

Speaker 8 (01:29:51):
Yeah, I think the first thing to keep in mind
is that we are absolutely in smoke screen season, so
there's gonna be plenty floating around with things kind of
flying across here. The latest and what does eemn be
legitimate is the Sixers at least giving some interest or
attempting to trade up to the number two pick. That
there was a report that surfaced that they've had conversations
with the Spurs, and immediately following pretty much a like

(01:30:12):
from all sides of things of yes, this is legitimate.
From Kyle newback here in Philadelphia, a couple of Spurs
reporters getting on top of things, Jake Fisher, who's pretty
tapped in, so it seems that there's a little bit
of smoke there. What's interesting to me is like, if
you're gonna make this move up, it's gonna have to
be some sort of draft pick centric trade, because if
you're thinking about this from the Spurs perspective, if they
don't want to add another guard to the mix with

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Dylan Harper, then it doesn't make any sense for them
to have any interest in a guy like Jard McCain
or Tyrese Maxie, And from the Sixers perspective, I wouldn't
move one of those guys to move up just one
selection either.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
So I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:30:43):
I kind of think at the end of the day
the Spurs will just sit pretty and take Harper. But
it is interesting from the Sixers perspective.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
So if if and the big amp obviously if it happens,
you flip two and three, I assume that's the plan.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
What do you have to give up to do that?

Speaker 8 (01:30:57):
I would guess the twenty twenty eight Clippers pick would
probably be a key part of it. That's viewed pretty
pretty positively around the league. Who knows what the Clipper
is gonna look like at that stage at the game,
So that would be an additional pick that they would
tossing in potentially another swap. I don't think it would
take that much to hop one spot, and in particular
with the context of the Spurs, like you're still staying
in this top three mix, and I do think it's
way less about like them having not a belief in

(01:31:19):
Dylan Harper and more about like a fit perspective. They
have Stevan Castle and they have Daron Fox, so that's
kind of what it means to me. But at the
same time, the Sixers can absolutely get outbid if a
team like the Houston Rockets or one of these bottom
feeders that have loaded up on assets want to make
that type of move.

Speaker 7 (01:31:35):
So we'll see how it plays out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
If if you're if you're.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
The Sixers, do you want Dylan Will you do something
to get to Dylan Harper? Do you think he's that
much better than who they were?

Speaker 5 (01:31:47):
Yeah, that was gonna be my question. How much of
a gap would it be right here?

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
You know, is he that much better than a Spailing
for instance, or whoever they might get the next pick.

Speaker 8 (01:31:54):
He's certainly more NBA ready, like right now from day one.
He's a guy that's gonna be able to play. You
can kind of trust him as a lead guard, and
there's a polish to him that none of the other
options that they'll have at three have that. It's been
pretty universally viewed that there's a clearcut top two in
this draft and then everything else is a little bit
up in the air. What I think is kind of
interesting about it from the Sixers perspective, and when I
really thought through this is if We're going to go

(01:32:15):
the worst case scenario that there is no bouncing back
for Joel Embiid, that we're in the post Joel Embiid
era at this point, there really is not like a
linear path to getting like a number one guy for
a team. Like as much as we love Tyrese Maxy
and Jad McCain looked excellent, I don't think at the
end of the day those guys gonna be capable of
being the best player on a championship contender. Dylan Harper
is a guy who I do think potentially be that guy,

(01:32:36):
and you can do some really intriguing stuff with shifting Max.
He'd more of an off ball kind of role there,
and we've seen him Maximiz playing next to James Harden
in a similar way. Harper has some similar characteristics to
James Harden now, which I think certainly appeals to Darryl Mory.
He gets to the rim a lot, gets to the
free throw line a lot. He's a lefty, got a
smooth stroke, reads the pick and roll very well. So
the short answer is, yes, I do think he's head

(01:32:57):
and shoulders better than any of the options that they have.
Is at three it just depends how much they view
that as worth moving up and is it time to
take that type of swing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
So for the people that haven't seen Delon, Harper and
Seawan described him really well. To me, he's the modern
day power point guard. Again, he's a phenomenal athlete fit
can definitely finish, I mean really finish at the rim
as a good enough shot, and I think can get better.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
I like how it looks coming out of his hand.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
I saw him live and I thought he was the
best player on the floor when Rutgers beat Penn State
at the rack back in December and their team was
a mess, and their team was a mess the whole year.
And I don't think I can do with him or not.
And he is your point guard, Tyrese Maxey is not
your point guard. He's never gonna be your point guard.
And again he didn't play much defense last year.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
But I'm not faulting him. The team was just it
was just a mess.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
But to me, he's a guy that could be a
two way modern NBA power point guard.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
And man, they are those guys hard to find.

Speaker 5 (01:34:01):
Uh, So, yeah, you're selling me.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
I would do it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
Yeah, Look, flag, I think is that much better than
everybody else. Yeah, And I tend to concur with Sean
that Harper. I don't think he's that much better than
Flag is better than him, but I think he's he's
pretty much better than everybody else.

Speaker 7 (01:34:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:34:20):
And the number one word that like continued to pop
to my brain when I watched him play like at
Rutgers was just maturity.

Speaker 7 (01:34:25):
Is like he just reads the game.

Speaker 8 (01:34:27):
Well, he's got this like like veteran feel to him
as a kid that is nineteen years old and just
coming out of college and good size, measured in at
like six foot four there, the finishing numbers around the
rim are pretty ridiculous that just from a percentage standpoint,
he shot sixty five point three percent at the rim.
That's like big man numbers that you don't see from
a guard. And like, that's one of the critiques of

(01:34:47):
Ace Bailey, who by the way, is like six inches
bigger than Harper. That Bailey shot forty seven percent at
the rim this season on the same Rutgers team. That's
something that doesn't quite like add up in one of
the bigger concerns with Bailey. Some of that his strength,
some of that is him just not having the ability
to get downhill at the same rate. But that kind
of finishing from Harper you don't really see out of
guys coming out of college.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
Yeah, I mean in modern day NBA, and you saw
it last night. If you can't beat somebody off the bounce,
it's hard for you to be a major star. Yeah,
and that's what obviously, Okay, he sees two stars can
beat you off the bounce, going either way.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
That's probably one of the biggest things with no mid
range game anymore, is that you can't just pull up
and work in that wry. You either have to blow
by somebody or shooting the f And.

Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
Again, the night I saw Harper live and they played
Rutgers twice, I think he was Bailey went nuts in
the second game Penn State one, but I think Harper
was hurt. I think he played, but he was hurt,
as kind of my memory of the night. And so
you didn't take anything away from him at that night.
He not only was he able to penetrate at will

(01:35:49):
against what at that point it was a pretty good
college defense, he saw the court man.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
Yeah, if you were open, he got you the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
And that's the other thing in the modern NBA with
the power point guard who could finish if if you
can all of a sudden command major attention, like when
you beat your man off the bounce, well that the
world opens.

Speaker 4 (01:36:10):
So yeah, I take a lot of value in that,
and I think Maury does a great job of identifying
it because Maxie and mcain have both been kind of
those players that Maxi defensively doesn't really see things all
that well and but offensively like always saw the game
pretty well and at least had the skills to develop
into that. McCain right away how to do just saw
things well. So if you put another one of those
guys in the Sixers, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
If you say you have a backcourt rotation of Harper
and Maxi and McCain coming off the bench and at
times playing them together playing small but it's the old
well who are they going to guard?

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Well, who's gonna guard them? Option?

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
I mean, could you see that working, John, I mean,
obviously you're a fan. You're a fan of the three
guys I just mentioned.

Speaker 8 (01:36:54):
Yeah, I think in the long term they do probably
run into some issues there, But to be honest, that's
probably the problem that you embrace at this point. It's
get as much talent as you possibly can and figure
out the rest later. I do think Dylan Harper is
that much notably better than their options at three. So
if you can make that type of swing, let's try it,
see if it works, and then go from there. You
can always move on from one of these guys for
like better fitting parts if they need to. But I

(01:37:15):
do think like both Maxie and McCain kind of have
the same critique of their not true point guards or
can they be guys that can really run an offense. Harper,
I'm pretty confident can be that guy. Like the four
point zero assists per game is it doesn't jump off
the page, I'm confident when you put him with better
players around him, that number is gonna pop off the
page right from day one.

Speaker 9 (01:37:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
And even with that, with the four point zero sean,
that's not a good offense. Even though they were able
to score a lot this year, that's not a well
designed offense at Rutgers.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Look, the coach up there has done a wonderful job.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
He's a defense first coach, and he really didn't understand
how to coach.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
This talent at this stage.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
And because their offensive concepts are so bad, it was
basically all right, a stillan go score and we hope
if we get eighty five the other team doesn't that ninety. Yeah,
that's basically how they played this year. And that's that's
that's not gonna get you anywhere. Here's the bottom line.
I think everything we're saying about Harper, I think san
Antonio is seeing the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
I think he ends up with the Spurs.

Speaker 8 (01:38:16):
Yeah. I mean, if I'm in san Antonio's shoes right now,
I still would really consider taking one of these swings.
For like Gianni's is the guy that I keeps coming
back to of like good luck, good luck scoring on
a team with Giannis and Wemby on the court there.
But I mean, like they made the trade for Darren
Fox mid season last year, Stefan Castle was Rookie of

(01:38:36):
the Year, and I do wonder like if they they're
okay like kicking back the timeline a little bit, that's saying,
let's see what we got with this for this year.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
That's the only one.

Speaker 7 (01:38:44):
That's the only way I kind of see them doing
this or thinking through it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
What percentage change would you put on it of the
Spurs moving out.

Speaker 8 (01:38:50):
Of number two, I'm probably more believing in it than
most that I like. I to me like, I don't
see Darren Fox and go on Harper really co existing
in the world. Like Harper, for all that I'm saying
about him, I don't really see him ever being an
effective off ball guy, which he kind of would have
to be in San Antonio. So as far as percentage
of them just directly moving out of two excluding Sixers

(01:39:12):
specifically here, I'd probably say like thirty five forty percent,
which I think is still pretty solid.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
Yep, yep, Yeah. I mean it's one of those things.

Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
Can if you get Harper, yeah, is he Are you
gonna be able to get him enough minutes with as
you said, with Castle and Fox and obviously he's gonna
want to play and you're gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
Want to play him.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
If the number two pick in the draft, you're not
You're not gonna want him in the G league. You're
not gonna want him play in eight minutes a night
that I'm not gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Work at all.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Yeah, there's what other kind of moves are we hearing,
not just from the Sixers generally specifically Sean, but anybody
in the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
What what's what's the latest rumors that are out there.

Speaker 8 (01:39:52):
Yeah, the Nets are definitely gonna be active that they
have four first round picks, and the consensus seems to
be that they're gonna try and package and move up
right there. The Kevin Ant thing that seems to be
the biggest domino that that traction is picking up and
the the what the Sons are kind of expressing publicly
is they want that done as soon as possible so
they can sort of lay out their full draft plans.
What selections do we have, what guys do we need

(01:40:13):
to work out that kind of thing. So there's even
like Sean's reporting yesterday, could be done as soon as
this weekend. San Antonio has been in the mix for them.
I think Houston's probably where he ends up, which will
be interesting there, but that'll be certainly a domino that's
felt around the league. There's also been a little bit
of buzz about the Sixers potentially moving back. The Pelicans
are a team they've been connected to that's something along
the lines of like Herb Jones and the seventh pick

(01:40:34):
for like Uber and the third pick or something along
those lines.

Speaker 7 (01:40:37):
Could work a lot of moving parts right now.

Speaker 8 (01:40:39):
I would say Durant's probably the number one domino that
starts everything happening.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
What's what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
What's the latest with Jonason Mowaffie. It sounds like he
would like to find a new landing place. Is that
a fair statement?

Speaker 8 (01:40:51):
Yeah, it feels like the writing's on the wall, but
he has not come out and said that himself. And
even like it's kind of standard practice for Giannis with
the Bucks that this has been how they've done business
for several years now. As they wrap up the season,
they have the meeting with each other, they check where
they're at, and since that point when that meeting has happened,
there has not been this public like he has requested
a trade or is going to be out for me.
I think like it's kind of run its course from

(01:41:13):
both directions here, he won a championship in Milwaukee. You
can't ask for much more for the guy, and from
the Bucks perspective, like it makes sense to have a
reset here, so I think a trade should happen, But
there hasn't been like this loud proclamation or Gianni's making
it very clear that he wants out in the way
that a lot of stars do.

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Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
What the hell is going on in New York?

Speaker 9 (01:41:53):
Shot?

Speaker 3 (01:41:53):
I mean they keep getting no no, no, no no.
They're the only team looking for a coach, so it's
not like they have them on other teams. But yeah,
just three, what are they doing up there?

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:42:03):
No, it is strange.

Speaker 8 (01:42:04):
I've never really seen an approach like this where they're
just like actively recruiting coaches around the league and like
this the slant that the Knicks are putting on it
or like we're just doing our due diligence.

Speaker 7 (01:42:13):
We're checking in on every single option here.

Speaker 8 (01:42:15):
But it is kind of crazy to just go around
saying like, hey, you want to come over here to
like every coach in the NBA right now.

Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
Yeah, it's like they're they're a Georgia or Alabama trying
to pluck coaches from like other teams. You can't just
do that right right, Like you're not at the top
like that to do that, Like it's just like a
who do you think you are?

Speaker 8 (01:42:30):
Kind of thing, and there's ones that like, I don't
know whether it's more embarrassing, like being requesting to interview
Billy Donovan or getting rejected for being requested to interview
Billy donod that's like that, Like that to me was
the like all we got to see one go through
the hoop right now, let's let's shoot a bit a
little bit lower and then.

Speaker 5 (01:42:45):
That ay, interview done with anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
Yeah, so the whole the whole thing is kind of strange. Again,
I didn't have a huge problem with them firing tips.
I got I understood where they were coming from. But
I gave them a lot more credit than they as deserve.
I would have thought they.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Would have had somebody in mind, Yeah, somebody that agreed.

Speaker 4 (01:43:04):
So was there actual interest in Jay Wright? And Jerry
had to say no to them?

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
He certainly got a call.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
Okay, so you went after a retired coach, You went
after all these other coaches that already had jobs, So like,
they obviously have a type. They're a team that really
thinks they are so close and they want to get
an established coach and this is like this is it.
But what they don't realize is you're not particularly there, right,
and you're going to have to take a chance with

(01:43:31):
the coach.

Speaker 5 (01:43:32):
And so why I think the firing of Tibbs.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
Was the right move.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
I think the reason why they did it and what
they thought the move was going to bring them isn't
exactly what it was was actually going to happen, And
that's the fault in a yeah, no, Look, there.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
Are a lot of really good coaches out there that
would love this opportunity that just don't have them could
be good this yeah uh, and they might end up
getting the right guy. Look if this is not totally
analogous to the Warriors, but Mark Jackson got fired because
they could only get so far.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
Steve Kurr never coached the game, is like.

Speaker 4 (01:44:06):
Right, yeah, exactly, that's the parts that you have a
vision of, Oh I telling me things that, yeah, I
can understand how we can maybe change our team. Sure,
so instead of like a philosophy change or something that
a coach gives you tangibly brings to your team that
you can point at, you're instead just going, well, I
want somebody established because you're too lazy to figure out
what actually you want.

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
Yeah, I mean, look, there's all kinds of possibilities out there.
There could be some college coach that's been waiting for
this opportunity. There could be an assistant who just needs
a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
I mean, look, who had ever heard of Mark Dagado
before I had?

Speaker 8 (01:44:40):
I have not.

Speaker 3 (01:44:40):
I couldn't tell you where he's ever been. I still
haven't looked it up. But obviously he's doing well this
teamn Or you get a guy like Rick Carla who's
been around forever, who's done well just about every spot.
But it'll be interesting to see what the next end
up doing because obviously they're in the win like today mode,
like you're not waiting for to tomorrow. They have already

(01:45:01):
gone all in and they don't quite have enough at
the moment, but they're not that far away either.

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
It's been a fun couple hours. We got five minutes of.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
Mike Kurr, which is more not never enough, but we'll
take what we can get, and he gave us his
golf picks. Sean great job is always in a studio, John,
Will you being in attendance next week?

Speaker 8 (01:45:26):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:45:26):
They will very nice, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
John, but two weeks in a row. Always happy to
have me here.

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