Sports Here, There, & Everywhere w/ Dick Jerardi & Mike Kern - 07/19/25 - Sports Here, There, & Everywhere

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Speaker 1 (00:21):
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Pennsylvania, Maryland, Ohio or Michigan. Gambling Problem one eight hundred gambler,
Dick Gardi, Mike Kerr, and Kyle Nannamaker here at the
Sportsbook at Parks, and several topics to discuss today. Hope
everybody had I don't know, forty five minutes out of
their week to read the lengthy and fascinating article on

(01:08):
Joel Embiid on ESPN dot com. I had not heard
of the writer before, Doton and I'm gonna I'm gonna
be my best here.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
You got a Knoyer, I'll take it. Yeah. I actually
saw him interviewed.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Malik Andrews interviewed him and she pronounced his name, And
I'm going with what Malikas said. So but again he's
not a guy I'd heard of, but a sensational story.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I recommend it to everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Will discuss at length what we thought of the story
and some of the implications for now and for the future.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
For and be British.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Open my current top of the hour they have. They're
underway here in round three, but the leaders Scottie Scheffler
and Matt Fitzpatrick start at ten thirty five Scotty minus ten,
Fitzpatrick minus nine.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
So get Mike's thoughts on that All Star Game.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Kyle Kyle Schureber the first MVP ever to go hitless
in the All Star Game. He gets three home runs
in the extra, which I actually thought was fun.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I didn't see a lot. It fell asleep.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
But All Star Game will be here in South Philly
next year w NBA All Star Game.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
For those interested in such things.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Little Eagles second half of the horse racing season begins today.
I will be going over to the Jersey Shore later
for the Haskell that'll be on NBC from five to six.
Journalism makes his return after the Triple Crown season and
Sovereignty the Derby and Belmont winner will run next.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Saturday at Saratoga.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
The Phillies have returned and they're not playing very well.
Lost four out of six on the road. Last night,
they had a four nierl lead and end up losing.
Bryce Harper looked like himself three four one.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
It was four to one lead with Lozardo looking good,
and then he wasn't looking so good. They had a
six to five to the California Angels and Bryce Arper
did it a couple of home runs at a double,
so that's positive. But something seems to be a little amiss.
They're still in the first place, but barely.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Over the Mets. Let's start with the m beat story.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Michael. We'll start with you. I know I tatted you
want it. You read it right after I asked you
to check it out. Your general thoughts on what you
read one of sp a doch.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I think it's a lot for the average person to digest.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
And I think what happened was because.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
It was very long, it kind of went over the
same things a lot, just to kind of reinforce them.
I guess that's you know, And the basic thing you
come out here is with again, it's going to sound
like Joel's woe is me.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
But you know.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
When somebody hits you in the face and breaks your face,
I mean, you know that happens, somebody falls on your
leg and when you get Bell's palsy.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
But I think that the detractors would say.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Well, maybe if he did things a little better too,
he is that he's going to blame you, and the
organization has not come out looking good in this at all.
And I know we've talked about it before about maybe
one of the biggest problems this franchise had was when
they had the point guard in the center and they
probably let them run the team.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
But I'm sure every team does that.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
I'm sure if you're the stars in the NBA, you're
you're basically I mean, you're not running pop show. But okay,
you know, But it just Joe doesn't apparently trust no one,
and I think he feels as if he's been wronged.
And then he sort of came out and said, now
we're going to do it my way, which means he
might not play it all, who knows, but you know,
so I means.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
That kind of what you took out of it. First
of all, I thought it was a beautifully written story.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
I thought, yes, I should win something. Yeah, I thought
it was really well researched. I thought it was well crafted.
The way the story flowed it was it was funny.
I started reading it and then you look up in
the right corner like how far are you? And I
can't I'm not very far. And I didn't look to
the bottom to see how you know, I don't know
how to be twelve thousand words, I don't know what

(05:02):
the number was.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
But well, it took him like a couple of years
to write it because he wasn't he he was saying.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
He interviewed him like a year ago.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
And the good and look, the good news was you're
never going to get a story like that unless the
writer gets access, and Embiid gave him the access, and
he obviously knew something was coming. And look, I thought
it was a fair story. I thought he presented all
sides of the situation. I thought Embiid came off generally

(05:29):
as a guy who's had a really unusual life, right
coming from Africa, never really playing basketball until later. Then
the fact that his brother died in his accident clearly
has affected his life. Having said all that, I thought
he generally came off as a sympathetic figure, but there

(05:50):
were times in there where you're thinking, well, hey, this
there was this woman who apparently and I'd never heard
of her, who was treating him like daily for years,
and then when she decided that she couldn't do it
anymore because she had a family to take care of,
he basically shunned her because she wasn't with him anymore.
I found that a little strange, and maybe the strangest

(06:12):
thing of all for me was he's really upset that
the meeting, the team meeting last year where Maxie apparently
reamed him out for not showing up on time and
doing stuff became public. He was more outraged and continues
to be that it became public than owning up to
the fact that he was showing up late for things

(06:35):
like my man, Yo, that's a little tone death, I thought.
I mean, if that's your biggest problem, that what you
were doing wrong became public rather than what you're doing wrong,
I found that a little weird, but again generally major
credit to the author. I just I thought it was
sensational and as a look inside a professional athlete that

(06:57):
you almost never get into.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Twenty five because they're all so guarded.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
And they're basically their own PR machines now, so I've
found it fascinating.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Kyle.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I know you read some of it off of what
you did read. What'd you think?

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, I mean I read it for about eight minutes
and then I scrolled to see how much I had left,
and I was like, I got a bookmark this for late.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Okay, I got back to this later.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, but yeah, from what I read again, it was
a well written piece. It really opened up into the
mind of Joelle embiide All. That is great, But if
I'm gonna picked us apart from a sports fan perspective,
doesn't sway me one way or another on how I

(07:40):
think about embiid On on the basketball court. I know
he had a rough life. I'm sympathetic towards everything that
happened to him, which is great and we already knew that,
But when it comes to being on the court, I
don't think having that access to his mind really again

(08:01):
sways how I think he approaches the game and approaches
his teammates, because I still think that he doesn't really.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Have that championship mindset.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
And you know, excuse me if I'm being like if
it's coming off like cold or anything, because I'm only
thinking of like a sports aspect to it.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
But yeah, it.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Didn't really move me one way or another on how
I perceive him and any of the wrongdoings he's done
in the past, being like, oh, well, yeah, that makes sense. Now, No,
it still doesn't make sense because, as you mentioned, a
lot of the things are inexcusable, like what he says
after games, what he does in the locker room late
for meetings. So yeah, it was a touching piece from

(08:45):
a personal standpoint, From a sports mentality standpoint, I'm not swayed.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
You know what was interesting though I agree with everything
you say, Kyle, but I think in Joe's mind and
it was interesting. When he came back to play in
the Knicks series two years ago, some of his teammates
were quoted as saying he gave us like a half.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
That's all he could give us.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Like, by the time they got to the fourth quarter,
we're surprised this guy could even walk.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
He said that in the story. He said he shot
like ten percent in the fourth quarter. We thought it
was because he was out of shame, but he just
couldn't move.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I think we look at Joe sometimes and say why
isn't there more? Why isn't there Why don't you come
up in the big moments where Joe looks at it
and says, I gave everything I got. Maybe he didn't,
and like I said, he didn't have to go back
from that injury.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
He could have just said, hey the hell would I'm out.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
But again, it's it's like he's going to get down
as a guy who, for whatever reasons was unfulfilled. Whether
it's Game seven against the Hawks, where you know the
teammate did with nine turnovers, but which gets overlooked, the
Game seven against the Celtics.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
There's probably another one.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
I'm leaving, But then it's the same guys, those ones
where the team played poorly and their star player played
port But then he scored fifteen in Nicks on one
leg apparently, so I'm thirty five in another game. So
I suppose I don't know sometimes how to judge him.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
It's very hard.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
It's very hard because some aspects I feel for him,
like I'm not I'm not gonna sit here and judge
his physical toughness because I think he's played through so
much pain.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
It's insane, right, I never do that. Only he knows
how he's exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
But when it comes to the mental aspect and just
the way that he carries himself mentally and like expresses
himself after these moments, he just never finds the right
thing to say. And that's what really kind of rubs
me the wrong way. Like after that Game seven Celtics game,
the audacity to say, well, you know, me and James
can't do this ourselves, like we need help.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
It's like, dude, did you did you watch the game? Right?
Jason Tatum gets fifty Yeah, and he shoots five for eighteen. Yeah.
I mean not just the reality of it.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
And when they had the game six one at home,
he disappeared at the fourth quarter. I mean, the old
team was bad, but he was just he wasn't there.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
He didn't get the ball, and tone death is a
great way to put it, he said.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
And I think a lot of it is it's a
cultural thing.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Again, he didn't grow up in the American system. He's
this incredible athlete for a seven foot person, maybe the
greatest ever seven foot athlete skill set wise in basketball history.
To me, the only guy would come close to his
skill set over all in all. I'm talking to everything, shooting, rebounding, defense,

(11:40):
great Touchmajua. He's the only guy in my mind that
would be in that ballpark. Abdul Jabbar would be close.
Maybe will problem he couldn't shoot free throws, that's right,
I want all of it. Like he's one of the
great big men free throw shooters of all time.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
And he gets to the LINEU million times. That's a skill.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
That's I think Joe's greatest attribute is it's as.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
To the line right and he makes eighty percent.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
He's got to And I think because he didn't grow
up with basketball, he was taught later in life, and
he shoots like a guard. I mean, he's just got
a beautiful shot. When it comes to he's got.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
A European skill set. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Now that that part and that's what is ultimately going
to be the disappointing part about his career. And I
think he knows it in his mind that it's never
He's never going to win a championship.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
It's not gonna happen. I still don't understand the Olympic thing.
I mean I do. I do understand it. Understand he
could have played for Cameroon, which he would have been
hailed as a conquering.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Hero and they would have lost. He could have played
for Frances they might have won the gold medal anyway,
But like, why did he feel the need? And I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
If that set him back for playing for the Sixers, right,
but if the Sixers of the team paying him sixty
million dollars a year, sure.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
That's your first obligation.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
It's almost like he went there just to say, I
want to win something, and I get it with everything
you just said.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
About also, I mean it was pointed out in the
story Grant Hill recruited him hard exactly because they needed
a big man, and it turned out he had the
one great semi finals.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
But that's also the point.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
I mean, you talk about the next series and how
beat up he was, and I was like, I just
I gave it all I had, but I'm just I'm hurt.
And then a month later you go playing the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's like, what do you what do you do?

Speaker 5 (13:22):
What do you need?

Speaker 3 (13:22):
In his mind and I don't know what his doctors
were telling him.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Maybe in his mind he didn't think it was going
to hurt him. I don't know this.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
So he came back and played in the next series
and had a couple of good games. Maybe he thought, oh,
the season on the start for three more months. Yeah,
I'm gonna go to the Olympics. I'm gonna get my medal.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
And the good thing about the Olympics is he didn't
have to play a man. That's because they have Steph
Curry Lebron James. But I think.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
The coolest thing would have been if he'd played for
Cameron and just said, yeah, we're gonna we're not gonna
make the metal round or whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
But yeah, but again he's but to your point, maybe
he played for the US because he wanted to win.
So I know that is fine, said Grant Hill. They
wanted him. Why wouldn't you want him? Right, I mean,
and again, but.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
I think at some point he should have said or
the doctors or whatever, because the team had no say
over what I'm gathering. Ye, nobody's just said, hey, dude, right,
you might want to, you might want to, you know,
try to get ready for the season. And that's where
I think he loses.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
And for the most a lot of the listeners I'm
sure have not seen or read the story yet. One
of the other things that came out. Pertinent to the
Sixers was Darryl Moury has been quoted as saying everything's
on Lucky, he's ready, He's going to start the season.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
That's not at all what it beat said at the story.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
He says, I'll play when I'm ready to play, and
I'm not going to come back.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Morey said that last year to understood.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, they're going to start the season right without George
and without Joe. Yeah, that's the other thing. That's what
you know. What I take away from what.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
You know.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
What I take away from what Daryl Morey says in
his press conference is nothing right, nothing because he because
he just but he has someone that likes to hear
himself talk and it likes to tell people what they
want to hear.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
We're not stupid.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
He's not gonna come out in June and say, yeah,
I'm not sure about Joe. Teams don't do that, Kyle,
like yourself. Teams they gotta sell tickets. I'd rather you
dance around the fact and just blatantly lie to us
and say he's gonna be ready.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Right, we don't know. Well, I'm not saying we're hoping
for them.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Now, we're hoping for the best to do you were
best corporate, Well he can't. He kind of did the one.
Donall's always hoping for the best. Yeah, we're hoping if
everything I'm hoping for the work, everything works out, we're
gonna we're gonna win fifty five games and we're going
to get No, you're not this first of all ain't
going to work out. But he but that's the dream
because this is the team he put together the year
and a half ago or whatever it was when he

(15:39):
signed Paul George.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
This was the thing.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
We're on a window here of a of a couple
of years maybe, And it was a mistake.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's a big mistake, and.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
It was a mistake to give Joe the extension. But
they've done it, so he has to.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Live with it.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
But then you add on to it and just blatantly
lie to us, and you lose all of your credibility.
I mean again, I reiterate, dance around the fact. Be like,
we're hoping, you know, we're hoping he comes back on time.
We'll see how things progress. He's gonna be ready, everybody's
gonna be ready, and it's gonna be perfect.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Right, So one of the other takeaways from the story
was at one point he told the author he's been
seeing a therapist. Obviously he's got a number of issues
in his life beyond basketball, and he was talked into
it by Jamia Nelson, who's the assistant general manager for
the Sixers. And in reading the story, he's someone and understandably,

(16:30):
I mean, I've known Jamiir for a long time. He's
someone he trusts, and he doesn't trust a lot of people,
and it's nice to have people you know, Jamiir played
in the league for fourteen years. He knows the deal,
and a guy like Embiid, he's looking for somebody a
little older who knows things. And it's nice that he
has somebody he can trust. And it sounds like it's
helped him a little bit get through some of the
things that have happened in his life. But it just

(16:54):
I just find I found some of it kind of
sad in a way in reading. It's just he's so
insulated from so much of this, from like everything.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
It sounds like, what do you say?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
He had like a thousand unreturned phone calls, texts from
four years.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Ago he never responded to.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
He seems when he when they were talking about his
high school days and his Kansas year. He just seemed
like a strange dude back then. And I don't mean strange,
but he's different. He comes from a different and we
can't put a lot of guys come from different cultures
there in the NBA, and somehow you have to figure
out a way to adapt.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, and it sounded like he never understood from the
beginning that he was really good.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
People that knew.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Basketball can say, oh my god. I remember talking to
the Courtney Whitty used to be a scout for the Sixers.
I believe he's with his sons now. H He told
me that was not yours. At Saint Jose one night,
I said, well, who's the best player in college West?

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Was his MP? Not even close?

Speaker 1 (17:55):
And he maybe played eight games and I probably had
seen him once or and he wasn't even playing huge
minutes for Kansas, and of course he was hurt by
the time they got to the tournament. He didn't play,
and so everybody knew what the out This skill.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Set was incredible, but he was just wrong and he
was learning the.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Game and he was The part that I did read
was he said when he came out of college. He
was just I'm banking on being a good defensive player
and I'm not ready.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, everything else is just an add on.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, I'm not ready. I do remember this, dude, Jimmy
Lynam told me this story. I think that, uh, what
was the what was what was the first name of
the Sixers coach O'Brian.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
He was Jim O'Brien played at Saint Joe's. Then he
was a head coach for a while.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
I think he was an assistant back with the Sixers
when Embiid first started with Brett Brown.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Is that possible? Does that sound right?

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Well, he told Jimmy Lyneham before this Embiid ever played
a game, this kid is unreal.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
You know.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
He didn't play. Was it two years? He didn't play
two too, But when he.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Started to finally as able to practice, they knew, like,
oh my god, this guy's And the.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
First year he played, I think he only played forty
games or thirty games because he had heard that got
hurt again or it.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Was like load man, No, no, he got hurt. He
did get hurt. He did get hurt.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
But the irony is if he doesn't get hurt of Kansas,
the sixers. Don't get them correct because we would probably
go Wigans.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
It was Wiggins, and then Tabari Parker, and then might be.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Jabari Parker who's been out of the lake for ten years. Yeah,
or thereabouts. So anyway, read the story. Major credit to
the author. Again, I don't know, but.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
I'm gonna have to read some other stuff that he's
written because it was really, really.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Really good, beautifully done. So when we were on the
show last week, I was mentioning my futures bet on
the Orioles one hundred and fifty to one to win
the American League. They had just finished winning seven of eight.

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They were twenty four and fourteen and there thirty eight.
It was all going really well. Then Saturday night in Baltimore,
last Saturday night, they're nothing, nothing into the sixth inning,
seventh inning against the Marlins, and Trevor Rodgers or former Marlins,
pitching for the Oriols pitching great, He's ready to finish

(20:19):
the seventh inning, he gives up a hit. They say
he's ninety nine pitches, you're out. They bring in Kyle's
best friend, Gregory Soto.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Love Gregory Soto, who hits the next batter.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
The next batter gets a single, They're now down one
to nothing. Since that game, since that moment, over twenty
to third innings against the Marlins and the Rays, the
Oriols have been outscored twenty eight to two.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
And we know how deadly that Marlins lineup is too.
Twenty eight to two. And the game after the game
they lose.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
They ended up losing six to nothing after my man
Trevor Rodgers is throwing his shutout.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yles Stowers. Do you know who he is, Mike? Kyle
Stowers had a home run in the All Star Game
the other night for the Marlins.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Oh that guy, Okay, he was traded for Trevor Rodgers
from the Orioles. Well, the day after this fiasco with
our man Gregory Soto, Kyle Stowers hits not one home
run against the Ools, not two, but three, and then
he goes to the All Star Game and last night
he had a walk off as the Marlins went again.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
So that all the oriol fans are going nuts.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
But it turns out Trevor Rodgers having a great year,
he washed out with the Marlins.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Stowers washed out with the Oriols anyway.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Right, last three games twenty eight two, trust may I.
I just wanted to reiterate that a PSGJ yeah, exactly,
twenty eight to two. Yeah, I gotta give back. Last
week I give out PSG is the Lock of the Year.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
I was all excited about that because it made sense.
Lock of the year.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
They'd outscored teams in that tournament sixteen to one, and
they get scold by Chelsea, which finished twenty five points
by Liverpool in the Premier League.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Wow, proving that I know nothing about baseball or soccer.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Hey, don't give up on the Orioles yet, but I
got horses today.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Please, journalist, has anybody you've been paying attention twenty eight
to two to this game, this gambling investigation the NBA
is doing.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yes, the guy this is wacko. So Terry Rosier. Terry Rosier, former.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Louisville star, played with the Celtics, the Hornets.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I'm not even sure who he's with now. He's with nobody,
isn't he Oh he's still he thought he was still
with the Hornets. Back and check.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
So so the gambler bets thirty bets and I think
it was in Mississippi of various denominations, in a particular
game that Rosier is playing in under on everything, and
he hits for thirteen thousand Miami, by the ways, Miami,
and Rosier played ten minutes and he's got hurt. He

(22:59):
was out out of it, and the NBA apparently has
cleared him, but there's some federal investigation it.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Look, I don't know much about game. Actually I do
know a lot about damn.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Like that doesn't sound right right, I mean, come on under,
It's like the John Tay Porter right under under under
and then he's out.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
That's the one.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
That's the one where you can you can do it
because look, you go in the game and either just
play horrible or tweak your ankle or whatever it.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Is you want.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
And apparently he wasn't the only one betting. There were
a lot of people around the country. So I don't
I don't know. First of all, I don't know why
these people are doing this, because it it's gonna get called.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
People are gonna notice if.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Everybody's if you're in some small sports book in Mississippi
and you're betting, what do you say, it like thirty
bets under?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
And he did.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Most of them want to self serve machine where nobody
notices he's doing it.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
But it's just, seriously, what are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (23:57):
And look, I hope Rosier wasn't doing anything wrong, but
it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
It's just it's just bizarre. And there's another one going
on too that just came down the play.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Correct their kid for the Pistons, who was about to
get a about to get.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
A big contract.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Uh, they're investigating that, and all of a sudden he's
not getting the same with the contract.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
When you're going onto a contract where you could make
millions and millions and millions of dollars, why would you?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I don't even mess around with it.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Sounds like what happened to John tay Porter was he
was in debt to some guys over some card game losses,
I believe, and.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
That was how he was going to pay back the debt.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
But you know what, wait to pay back the debt
until you've got a contract. Oh you're you're talking about
elite least for the Pistons, Right, he's got somewhat of
a similar economy.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Maybe they told you, maybe they told him that they
don't want to wait for him to get.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
That big good back. Yeah, good bag. Uh. Also, what
else are you going to do in Detroit.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Well there's that, so, yeah, I have my Orioles. It's
a sad, sad state of affairs. The good news is
I didn't bet that much. The bad news is I
think I'm not winning this bet. But does this mean?

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Does this mean Batista's coming to the Phillies. He might.
Maybe they'll surprised me and win ten in a row, But.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Twenty eight to two is a little disconcert twenty They
can't get much worse.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
And all sports, all sports can be weird, like the Dodgers. Look,
every team just about has some stretch during the season
where they stink.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, same Colorado. They just well, they stink all the time.
It's not a stretch, what I mean, we call that
a full season.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
But it's amazing. I mean, the Dodgers should never lose
seven or eight in a row. Yeah, don't hear that.
They do, especially the bad teams. Not like they had
a tough stretch going on.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
All right, So the Phillies are out of the break.
They had the All Star Game MVP. Mike knows the
only other All Star Game MVP they ever had.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Johnny Callis in sixty four hit a three run walk
off home run. It's Chase Statius, same as uh, same
as shore Birth. Three home runs, Yeah, a little different
walk off Bless.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
And Phillies were in first place.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
I think when he did that, there the sixty four
the ill fated sixty four Phillies.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
So if you're looking at the moment at the NL standing,
the Phillies still lead the National League East by a
half game.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
The Mets also lost last night's stay. Yeah, they're not good,
are they They're not very good?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
And they're eleven and a half clear of Atlanta, which
is ten unders and going nowhere it would appear. But
if you if you take a wider view of this
and you look at the wild card at the moment,
Milwaukee is four clear, they got the best, They're right
behind the clubs. Then the Mets are game and a

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half into the Wildcard at the moment, so meaning the
Phillies would be two games in if they just say
they're not in.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
First place, the Mets are.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
San Francisco is a game and a half out of
the third wildcard, which is San Diego. So basically, the Phillies,
if I'm doing my math right, are three and a
half games ahead of San Francisco, Yes, which is not
a gigantic number with seventy games to go, and Saint
Louis is another game behind, as is Cincinnati, so there's
three other.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Teams sort of around.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
There's basically seven teams buying for three spots.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
I think the Phillies have played I remember hearing like
the fourth easiest schedule, right, so, but the Dodgers have
also like had an easy schedule, which I find hard
to believe though, because the division they play, and its
just it seems weird.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
They're backloaded and they got a lot of San Francisco
and coming up.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
I will say this, Yes, if the Phillies don't make
the playoffs, which I don't think is going to happen,
I just.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I'm just throwing the numbers out there.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
But if they don't, a little scare, Yeah, they're all
going everybody manager, manager.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
General manager.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Uh. They probably wouldn't resign the catcher. Uh, you probably
wouldn't resign.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Didn't they just draft the catcher too?

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah? But he's really he's like he's he's like nineteen
years old, Carolina. Yeah, but he's like nineteen twelve years old.
He's good, all right, He's not ready to play the thing,
is you know, they don't bring them up till they're
like twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Good point. Apparently I didn't.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Realize this, but swore in the Phillies had talked during
spring training they were trying, and they apparently could. Why
would Schwarber's value Like, why would he think less of
himself now than he thought of himself in spring training?
So if he thought he was worth I'm just gonna
throw a number out thirty million a year now. They
probably thinks he's worth thirty or his agent does. Well,
he's clearly their m VP of batting, right, it's here

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him bad. Yeah, although Harper's look good in the last
couple of weeks, right, but he's had a great season.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
He's gonna make a huge amount of money. He's you know,
it looks like he get hit hit' Ah.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Can you can you afford to have another thirty five
million dollar player in your roster?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
I mean, I don't know, I don't know what their
finances are.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
They gotta afford it if they want to. They just
they just gave no all the money. Well, he said,
the catchers out of there right free. I don't know
they were not paying him. Well, what if he only
ones two years and maybe they say, hey.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
He's actually happening. He's actually played a little better here.
Nothing to the two Saturdays. He's a thirty four year
old catcher. Thirty three.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
That's tough. Yep, that's a problem. That question. Phillies have
some serious if they don't win the whole thing. Okay,
they have some serious questions this offseason. Now the.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Old guys, you're older guys that are going to want
a lot of money, Yeah, to stay.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
And you already have holes in left field. You have
a hole in center field, hole in right field. Well yeah,
holl at second base.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, No, he's not been good. It's interesting. Mike Trout
is in town. Obviously, local guy from South Jersey is
not hitting for average, but he's got seventeen home runs,
and obviously he's been hurt. Unfortunately for him and for
baseball because he's going to the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
He's a legendary player. I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
I don't know what his contract situation is, how much
more money he's owed. But Matt and Angels are actually
sort of in the walkingasty years left. Yeah, I got it.
I don't know what you got to do to get him.
I couldn't get him fast enough and put him in
center field just you know, get you to the playoffs.
And would you like to have Mike Trout hitting fourth
or fifth with that?

Speaker 3 (30:07):
But is it a Mike Trout that we've seen the
last year four years?

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Take it, take a you.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Gotta take a risk at this point, he signed through
twenty thirty. Yeah, that's a long I don't thirty seven million,
it's a line. What's he going to be two years
from now?

Speaker 2 (30:21):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Oh no, you don't care, but they might know. And also,
when played a full season, is going.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
To walk in your off say you know what, you
just got this guy.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
No, I get it for the short term, but in
the long term, you're gonna If it doesn't work out
in the short term, you're gonna be paying for it later.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Their outfield in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Do you have faith in any anybody that is gonna
get a big hit out there?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Rojas, he's done it.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
He's done it year in and year out in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Gay Kepler, Keppler, Max Kepler. Sorry, I'm not knock Cape.
I was thinking of Marsh. I mean, Marsh actually hasn't
been a bad lately. Marsh is not.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
But I mean you just again, playoffs. Playoffs are a
whole different animal. They are, and and I think would
look gay Capler. I mean, he's you know, he has
a better shape than a lot of these packs.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Kepler gave. Yeah, he had a grade at bat in
the ninth in last off the field.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
But to your point, I mean, you're a little tight
looking at these standing because if you're right in the
middle of the wild card race, if you're not in
first place in the East, and the fact that they
went on this legendary starting pitching run.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
And still couldn't separate.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Yet, that is not going to keep continuing to happen
in the back half of the year. So you better
figure out what you're doing on offense because you're gonna
be in real trouble if if if things continue to.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Ye miss the playoffs, I'm telling you, the whole thing
would get n They could.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Be a while. I'm telling you if they're if they're
a wild card.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Team that loses in the playoffs, I ain't going to
go over well either.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
But yeah, I mean they could be a walk guard
team having to go on the road play games.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Now, where are they finished. I got to tell you,
they're just lucky.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Judging from the last year, judging from the last few
years ago, they've done better on the road in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
I just get in and see what happens. But it
is concerning to me at the point that.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
They're not.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
They have nothing clinched as we're getting the seven. Like
last year, they were already they had the division clinching.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
By the way, major League Baseball has to do something different,
So the Philly should have had I'm not going to
go into trade Turner because that's different. That's not somebody
picking pitchers. Three of their pitchers should have been in
the All Star Game.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Now.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I don't know if that worked out with having a
guy from every team, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
But why does Wheeler And he can do whatever he
wants and the game's being played in your hometown, okay,
why won't you and you play might have started the game.
They might say, hey, go out and throw the first
thing and then whatever.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
I think he was going to be the starter, but
why would you?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
And he's saying well, and if people were interpreting it,
it's going to make me stronger. This taking these extra
couple days ain't going to mean diddle in September. Okay,
he's a guy that likes to pitch every fifth day.
He said that, I don't like to take it excep.
The same thing with Sanchez and Suarez. Apparently they went
up to them and asked him or somebody make them
all stars.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Just n l pick them and.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Then if they can't pitch, just take them off the
team and put another guy, but don't not make them
all stars. They're all stars.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
That was and Sanchez got and God blessed the Phillies.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
They gave him the fifty thousand dollars bonus for being
an All Star.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Good for them, Yeah, no, think he clearly deserved to
be on the team. How that was done, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
It was bizarre. And then they put the kid on
from Milwaukee's pitch five games. Yeah, they were.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
They're starting to run fin on who they should they
should pick.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
They should pick their pitchers regardless of when they're when
they're slated. I never remember thirty years ago, Dick like
if Bob Gibson was pitching on a Saturday and he
won't put him on.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
The All Star team because he couldn't throw. Never happened.
Never happened.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Correct, that's what what Paul schemes throw, like twenty five pitches.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
That's all we were.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
I understand, you're warming up, but you're in Atlanta, your
family's there, they just had a baby.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Get all those things.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
There was actually a time when All Stars starters would
pitch like four innings, five inutes or more if they
were doing well.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
You got to be inclusive. No, I understand, it's like
kids tee ball.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
At this point, we were getting to the point that
I think Gregory Soto might have got the nod in
the All Star Game.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Don't even bring his name.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
And as soon as he came into the game, I
was actually listening to it on the radio.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Man, should I turn the channel? Yeah, this is not good.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Last night I listened to the bottom of the first
up guy for the Marrowins did a three run homer
off my man, Chuck Morton to forty one year old.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
It actually has it been pitched well lately? I said
that it pitched like a forty one. I didn't bother
to look anymore. So this is not going well. He
got blown up listening to sports here, there, and everywhere.

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Speaker 3 (36:45):
Mike Kern on the British Open. We're halfway home, Mike worry.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
McElroy's on the course, A couple other high profile names
are on, but the leaders are going to get out
there in about thirty minutes or so. Scheffler and Matt Fitzgerald,
What are you saying here halfway home?

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Well, you're seeing Scottie. Look, I think he shot sixty
three yesterday and it was or sixty four.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
It was very close to being sixty three twenty eight. Yeah,
it's just I'm just kidding it. Yeah, well thirty two.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Look he's finishing, he's he won a major this year
he finished fourth and seventh and the other two. So
he's up one on Fitzpatrick who's won a major, U
two on Brian Harmon who won this major two years ago.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
But the odds are just nuts. I mean, let me
see what is chef.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Well minus won sixty five and I wouldn't tell you
not to bet that. It's close to even money. But
it's golf. I mean, you know a lot of things
can happen.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
And he's playing against the field. He's playing against the field.
And here's the interesting thing.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
If you think he can finished in the top five,
it's minus two with three zero, so that means I'd
have to lay two.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Hundred dollars to win one. That's correct. Okay, if you
think at top ten, it's minus eight.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
The number just went down, so you would have to
lay eight hundred dollars to win one. Now, the only
waistcott he doesn't finish in the top ten is if
he gets hit by lightning or he breaks his hand.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
And even if he broke his hand, you might still
finish in the top ten. She's arrested by the bobbies.
Get arrested by that's right.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
If he tries to roll up the ruin, so I
could never tell I don't know what to tell people.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Rory, by the way, birdied number two.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Birdietyory's odds are now for he's the fourth betting favorite,
and he's five behind Scheffler. But here's the face behind
a whole lot of other pap and here's problem. And
I got Rory in my pool, so you know he's playing.
There was all the pressures on Rory because it's his
home course and all this kind of stuff. Ifore he
goes out and shoots sixty three today, let's just say
he goes nuts, Scheffler goes out and shoots sixty seven.

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He's still down by like four or five going into
tomorrow exactly. And I don't think at fourteen to one,
that's just see what he is Rory fourteen fourteen, which
just seems like it's it's low, but it's Rory. So
I get what about fifteen, Well, that's what he's gonna say.
He's five, and again he's won a major. I think
the bet is Scottie, but that you know, if you

(39:08):
don't mind laying a buck and a half for a
little over a bucking ahead, as long as you win,
as long as you win, but the only other person
I could. Yeah, I'm not gonna throw something out here
with long odds just to get you to bet.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
So something with long odds. I'll do that.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Give me a number you wouldn't I bet the Oriols
it one around five hundred.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
You want Lee at twenty two? I do. Okay, h up.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
He's being made a birdie in his first hole because
he hasn't started yet. Okay, so he's two down twenty
five yeah, okay, he's twenty two to one.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Really, yeah, I'm taking I'll be back in the man.
You can have got my man. Chris Gottter up. He's
a little further down from the Rutgers, but played one
last week Jersey short gun. Where is he at? He's
fifty to him fifty yeah, and he's only five behind.
He won this to show that what they're.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Telling you is the betters are that they think Scotty's
going And now, look I get it, but that doesn't
necessarily mean scott He's going to win. But boy, I
mean he looked good yesterday at the end. And the
scores are low today people are shooting low scores. The
weather conditions could change, because they change over there.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
One of my great British Open because yeah, they have
the betting parlor right down the block there you can go.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
This is before it was legal. Over here. Mac tied
for fifth.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Yeah, I mean, I'm just hoping for him to get
like third or second. But the so Tiger before I
think it was the two thousand and five British and
he had won there in twenty twenty at St Andrews,
beating the field by like seven, he was three to
one or three and a half to one, and I'm like,
he goes out and shoots like sixty seven the first

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day he was he was three to five the next
day and he won't and he ended up winning it.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
But here's I'll say.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
This to people, though, wake up tomorrow morning early to
the British Open. It will be over by two and
it'll be fun. You'll get to see a great course.
Royal Port Rush absolutely And for the people that don't
know Northern Ireland, it's right on the ocean.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
It looks like a very cool spot. Uh. It just
looks like one of those but you have not been
there because I haven't been to Boroport Rush now right,
and they hadn't played in Northern Ireland.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
In like fifty sixty years or something, and then they
did until they were there and the Irish guy won
and Shane Lowry won it when Rory missed the cut right.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Just speaking of Shane Lowry, he got a two strung
penalty yesterday because he was GoF is stupid?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
He was addressing he was taking a practice swing and
his ball moved slightly. Yeah, I mean it didn't. It
was no advantage at all. It might even have been
a worse spot.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Uh, he didn't notice it, but TV picked it up, Mike.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
I thought they had changed that rule the TV. TV
couldn't decide this stuff. Yeah, but I think if somebody like,
maybe what something. I don't know the exactly. Well, apparently
they said on TV they were gonna somebody called in
or so, no, they were gonna ask Lowry did you
notice the ball movie?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
And apparently they did ask him, and.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
He said no, because why would he notice the ball movie?
It was him, none of his nobody else in his
group noticed it. And I thought they had said on
TV if he didn't realize it at the time, we're
not gonna call him penalty. But then they did, so
I was a little confused by that, and beyond that
it is such a stupid rule.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Well, he gained no advantage.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Once so in the twenty sixteen US Open, where Lowry
was playing against the DJ Dustin john Dustin Johnson and
Dustin on like the fourth hole, getting ready to make
a putt, and somehow the ball and again, and at
the end of the thing they did end up penalizing
him one not too she ain't got a two stroke pad.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
This is where I just think.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
The ball moved and then went back where it was
nothing to do the reason they do it, I can
always surmise us if you don't penalize him, the next
time it happens like like and somebody's ball maybe moves
a little bit more if somebody's cheating, and that's fairly
obviously it was.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Obviously it was not cheating. I'm with you, cheap.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
I think the point is that if they let some
guy technically get away with it not getting I don't
mean it in that sense. The next time it happens,
the other guy can say, hey, wait a minute, my ball,
we moved a quarter of an inch and I wasn't
trying to move my ball.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
There needs to be some subjectivity in the people and
force needs to be.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Some common sense. That's that's the same. But I'm guessing.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
I'm guessing there's a rule that states if the ball
moves at all.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
And again, I thought they had changed the rule about
TV because you had all these people calling in saying, hey,
I saw this happen, and they were pedalizing people after
the fact.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
One time, Craig Stadler got like a two stroke penalty
because he's put a towel down and then put his
knees down on the towel to hit a shot, and
they said, you were building a stands.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, there was a player. I'm not like.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
There was a player a couple of weeks ago who
called a penalty on himself ended up costing him a
playoff in one of just regular tournaments.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
And that's kind of how golf is. You don't get
rewarded for it. But here here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
I don't doubt for a minute that if Lowry realized
the ball had moved, he would have said that one
of the officials say, I think it might have moved.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Let's say they didn't penalize just for sake of argument,
and Lowry winds up winning the tournament by a stroke.
The guy who finished his second could say, well, wait
a minute.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
But again, I don't think any rational human being would
not do that, what because they realized the guy got
no advance?

Speaker 3 (44:33):
But you leave yourself open to that. I'm not I
agree with you. It's just dum It is dumb, and
that's why people look at golf sometimes and say it's
pretty stupid. But I think the point is, I guess
the golfers do govern themselves.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
And then sure, but how are you going to notice
the ball? Movie? Look, because you're looking at where you're.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Pret Colin Monk, we came out.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Remember Tiger took a shot at Colin one time because
he you got to take a drop of Sevey came
under this one time.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Tiger came under it one time.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Sure, and doth I agree with you wholeheartedly that And
that's instance. The amount that that ball moved isn't changing anything.
It didn't improve his lie, it didn't whatever. So I
would have given it to him.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
My other golf question and I texted this to you,
Scheffler is having the best golf run since Tiger Woods.
Is that a fair statement that the run he's been
on for the last several years and I'm not comparing
to Tiger because nobody. I'm not saying it's even close
to that, because nothing's close to that. Is that a
fair statement? This has been the best run since Tiger.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Only won four majors from eleven to fourteen. He was
pretty good. I don't know if he was quite this good,
I'd have to go back and look, ye see what
was doing. But yeah, I mean it's pretty I mean,
Kepta had a pretty good run. He Kepka had like
I think four of his five majors came into two
or three year spurt. But yeah, Chefer, I mean he's
been number one I think for one hundred weeks. Now.

(46:02):
It's something like that some guy, and this is what
this is with Rory being out there, and this is
with some other Now some of the guys like rom
have fallen off because they're not with the World Golf
Points anymore. Yeah, I mean, and and again somebody took
you know, he came out this week and just said
about how it's not the be all end on him,
like when he's on the course it is, but when

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he's off the course. You know, he's got to find
he's very religious. He married his high school sweetheart. They
just had to believe their second child, and people, some
people took like shots at him, like, how can you
say that?

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Very easy? I got a life. I thought his press
Coberts was great. I thought he was awesome.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
He basically saying, hey, man, I love playing golf. It's helpful,
but this isn't satisfied. That's not what satisfies.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Me, he said.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
He said, it's satisfying for the for the two minutes.
Like when he won the PGA this year. You saw
the emotion at the end. You started a cap down.
Look like John Rohm way beat him for a walk. Sure,
but he can You're allowed to have a life, And
I think that's sometimes guys. I'll bring Rory up. I
think the last couple years for Rory has gotten so
emotional with all this l I V. Stuff, And he
thought that the commissioner let him down because he was

(47:06):
the guy out there saying all this and wanting to
win that the Masters, to complete.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
The Grand Slam. And then he did, and he kind
of looked up and said what now, Well, here's the reality.
Like Tiger Woods. That was his whole life. That was
his life.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
That's why his personal life and Bill the shambles. Yeah,
I mean, because that's all he did. He was unbelievable
at it. And some of the great athletes are like that.
He ain't the only one. I mean you could think of.
Kobe Bryant was certainly like that, Jordan was like that.
I mean, the greats, that's why they were Kobe correct.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
But then you had the Tim Duncans of the world
that maybe quite weren't that, but yet were great in
their own right.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yeah, I mean, but yeah, I found it very thought
it was enlightening his right.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
But some people took shots out of it. I won't mention
the names, but they liked it. And I think that's
the difference between Phil and Tiger. And I'm not saying
Phil didn't want to be the greatest guy for in
the world.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Phil did.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
But Tiger had that kill you, kill you, kill you ye,
And that's why maybe he was Tiger and why Phil
was philing. Look, Phil's going to get down as the
second greatest golfer of his generation. And I think he
won six Mania because I think he's last man. He
either won five or six. She's never going to win
the US Open, and that's fine. Yeah, I mean, I mean, hey, look,
Watson never won a PGA, Palmer never won a PGA,

(48:18):
Samskay never won the US Opening.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Winning them all is it is hard, and that's why.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
What Rory did this year put him in really but
I think there was kind of that.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Okay, like, now what, here's another topic.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
I've been thinking about bringing us up for a couple
of weeks now, but I haven't so this whole. The
w NBA All Star Game is in Indianapolis tonight at
game Bridge, which is obviously the home of the Fever
and Kitlyn Clark and her squad. And unfortunately for this year,
Katelyn Clark's been hurt a lot. She was hurt, she
was out, she's back, she's out anyway, Why is it.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
That she and by.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
All accounts, she's a terrific person, her interviews all come
off great. Why is she become this incredible lightning rod
in sports?

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Now? I'm a little baffled by it.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
I know, Christine Brown's out with the new book on
the WNBA and how they seem to be unaware of
the possibility of this being a particularly big deal when
she entered their league, and nobody, none of the other
players were apparently prepared for it.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Were they not watching well exactly? And she's obviously changed
the whole dynamic. I think the only modern comparison for
what she's doing for a sport. And I'm not comparing
golf to women's basketball, but Tiger Woods changed the whole
dynamic of the pj TOR, which was already very successful.
He made it incredibly successful. It was a must watch.

(49:46):
The WNBA was never that successful. It was kind of
a niche game, and she overnight made it into a
musk watch. Yet there are all these people that seem
to be jealous of her. You will watch simple thing,
absolutely I found.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
I'm going to tagger into the conversation.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Ye, Tiger was black, Okay, I's the only black guy
out there winning tournament at Augusta, which was the you know,
bastion of southerns whatever. She's white and there's been other
great white players, Tarassi Bird, I mean, I could there's
not like this.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
And you can tell how Angel Angel Reache.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
You can tell because she she's like, well, I'm our
team beat you in the finals. Were And yet Caitlyn
is Caitlyn Angel is going to be a great player,
there's no doubt.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
And I'm sure there's a lot of jealousy.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
And I don't think all of it is racially related
or you know, ethnically rear however, but they're yeah, because
she's white, and she she took college women's hoops to
levels that we've never seen after the men on TV,
which if I'd have met a bet on that, I said,
no chances. But I wonder sometimes if Caitlyn Clark was black,

(50:57):
if it would have had the same impact.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
And I don't I'm not sure. That's an interesting question. Uh,
she's playing, you know, she's playing in the Midwest. She's playing,
you know.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
I mean, look, there's two reasons, a number of reasons
why she became popular, and that's certainly possible.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
That does one of them.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
One of them obviously she shoots these shots from thirty
five ft. Yeah, that's that's obviously part of And her
passing ability is just I mean, it's like Pete Maravitch
like for I'll date myself a little bit for seeing things.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
She's just fun when you watch her play. It's fun
to watch her play. That's why it's been so disappointing
that she's been injured a lot this year and one
didn't get to be into three point contest last night. Kyle,
what I mean, you're you're younger than than Mike and
I what and when.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
You're seeing this? What? What is going on here? What
is the dynamic?

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Why there's this there's this bizarre reaction in some corners
to her out there, at least of my mind, it's bizarre.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Well, it's like you said, she brings an electrifying factor
to the w n B A. I mean, I watched
Sports Center every morning before work, and you know the
coverage for the w n B A is it's amazing.
You know, maybe you know a couple of times a
week they would squeeze in a w NBA highlight. Now
it's every morning, sure, and that's the Caitlin Clark factor.

(52:10):
But also, to Mike's point, the jealousy that plays into
it from you know, the Angel Reesis as some of
the other players. I think that sparks conversation on social media.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
It's like it's like men's smart.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
Yeah, it's just it's actually it adds to the entertainment
factor of it because you know, you know how people
are on social media, they like to pick sides and
then you know it starts feuds and and and it's
all just good for the highlight of the w n
b A, no question. So I think even though it

(52:45):
could bring like a divisiveness to it, it can still
be a friendly divisiveness for how you portray it. And
I think any traction that's drawn to the w n
B A is is positive.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Tracks.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
There's been a couple of instances where has been she's
been involved in scuffles around there's a hard Yeah. You
can tell when angel Rees got asked the question on
the basketball play.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
You can tell the way.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
They answered the questions that whether it's it's there's a
resentment there, there's there's yeah, not for what she's bringing
to the w n b A.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
But I think it's almost like, look at us, look
what we're bringing to the w n B A. And
I get that. And again, no matter which side you
are on it, the.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Fact that it's a topic conversation, people eat that up
to analyze it.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
It goes back to I don't want to make this
a racial thing because but to race is a big
part of our lives.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Sure, Larry Bird.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
What what what what Thomas said about Larry Bird exactly
the same thing. Well, if he were a white guy,
he just he'd just be.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
No Isiah Thomas said, if he was a black guy,
he'd be just another guy. Yeah, and and of course stupid.
But there was that.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Underlying and Jordan was already in the leage at this point,
Magic was in the league. I mean, it wasn't like,
you know, Isaiah was in the league. But yeah, Lowry
Bird were like no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no. He was one of at a time, he's
one of the best five or ten players ever.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
To play the games.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Yeah, but that's there, and it was, and it's an
underlying theme of everything we do, and especially when in
the w NBA is a little different because they do
have a lot of great white players who've played in
the league and are still playing in the league.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
But there's just that thing in basketball, you know, and like.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Tiger Goff, you're black, really like you're gonna you're gonna
take over the sport. Yes I am, And he made
no bones about it. Yes, I'm gonna be the best.
I want to beat Jack Nicholas's And there.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Was a lot of resentment with Tiger even even amongst
his out for sure, his fellow pros.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
I even kind of remember when he first came on tour,
similar to what people were saying about Caitlyn Clark, that yeah,
it's gonna be a rude awakening for him, right, I
actually said that, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Actually it turned out was a rude Tiger Woods.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Tiger Woods won the Masters in ninety seven. They sent
me down to Congressional uh near Washington, like two weeks
two months later, because they're playing tournament down there, not
to talk Tiger.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
I don't think he was even playing. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
If to talk to the other pros about Tager, sure,
you would have been shocked.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
They were that. Some of them were good.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Some of them sat and said, hey let's talk. Yeah,
some of them want no parts of it. Absolutely very soon.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
Who is this?

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Who is this twenty year twenty one year old kid?
And at that point you only won the one major,
right right? I mean he won all the US amption.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
This is what it is.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
And if Tiger had been White, I don't think it
would have been because when Phil came up, there was
no Hey, Phil's the next great player, Mike, that's a.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Great point, and I remembered it exactly like you're saying it.
There was an incredible amount of resentment. What they didn't
get was similar to what's happening in the w NBA
that because Tiger, everybody wants to see it.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
All of a sudden, your value is going up dramatically.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
You might not win as often, but hell, if you
finished second, you're getting a lot more money than Houston.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
When you wore eyes one more money that comes. What
difference between Tiger and Caitlyn is and it took tech.
Tiger was the best, like and you knew it. They
want he won what a second pro tournament? I think
he want Caitlyn. I'm that I don't think she's the best. Well,
she's she was first team All League last year as
a rookie. But I think there are other players in

(56:17):
the w NBA that look at themselves. They wait a minute,
we're pretty good too, and they have proven that, They've
proven it exactly that.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
And it's harder in that in a team sport, right,
I mean, it's about how is your team doing?

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (56:32):
I mean, look, Michael, Michael Jordan wasn't looked at as
the best player in the NBA for a number of years,
even though he probably was, but he was that talent.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Larry's first year in the NBA and him and Magic
came in together. Magic's team winded up winning the title
that year, beating the Sixers. Larry the Celdic's improved by
like thirty three games they went for like twent and
the Sixers beat him in play. The second year they
won the title. So Larry came in and he was
he was him and Magic were, you.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Know, immediate for sure. I watched Caitlyn play and she'll
have some great games, have some games where's.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Had a weird uh, she got hurt the one time
she came back, she had the one she'd probably be
playing with injuries the whole.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Season, and then she shot I'm not gonna get this
number exactly right, like three for fifty. Yeah, it was
some bizarre like what like and if you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Be that person, remember if the Tiger won the Masters
in ninety seven, he went into not a slow I
won't call it a slump, but he didn't win another major,
told ninety nine PGA, so he almost won the ninety
eight British But.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Again they came in and they immediately showed that. And
but what Caitlyn does to get eyes on their sport,
it helps.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
It's going to elevate angel reach, it's going to elevate everybody.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
It's fascinating.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Look, when you're playing, that's probably just harder to see, right,
we can look at it from the outside, see that
big picture. But when you're playing, you want to win,
you want to think you're paid.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
All Age Becker's now, who's white, by the way, and
actually just came out yesterday and you know, not did
she have anything to any but but eahs Becker's is
not regarded as Caitlyn yet in many ways she's kind
of the same player sort of.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
The difference was that, again she's not as nearly as
flashy a player, right again, that's that that was the fun.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
But if she had played her whole college career, she
might have I got it. She was hurt a lot.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
I mean, that was the fun part about Caitlyn Mark
is just the fun part. Yes, it's just who doesn't
enjoy that watching that thing.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Some people looked at her at Iowa and said, you
know what, they're not as good as LSU, They're not
as good as this team that I played. She's getting
all the publicity. You know she was, Yes, she prove
I mean, look, she was first team All the league's
last year and her team made it to the title game. Yeah,
it's just you're talking about Iowa.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Iowa. It made the title game two years in a round.
That's just the way the world is.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
But I think when they lost to and remember Caitlyn
had made some kind of a signal when they beat
some team I can't remember, and then the LSU girl
did it after they and then she caught flat for it.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Right, Like, what isn't no Caitlin did it. That's the
one fun thing about watching her play is she's very feisty. Yes,
he's into it. She's yelling at the red. Yeah, she's
upset about things. That's fine, that's awesome, that's great. And
and the other guy, the other team's going to be upset,
that's fine, that's sports.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
I sometimes feel sorry, and that's the wrong way to
put it, but I have no for like somebody like
Angel Reese, who's a great She's going to go dance,
she's probably gonna be a whole famer at some point.
She gets rebound, but she's not Caitlyn Clark.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
They play different games. They play different games they play.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
I mean, but if you go, I mean this girl
now that's going to be coming out of USC in
a year or two, that hurt her knee, she's awesome.
I mean, if you watch her play, and I'm sure
every year South Carolina. I mean, I don't follow the
women's basketball as much as I Yeah, Boston.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Is great and and and there's other women you see now.
But look, if we'd have two years ago, couldn't have
named any of these games.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
I knew Tarassi she was my favorite, right, I knew
Breonna Stewart did Suburbs.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Yeah again, and it sounds also And I've seen Christine
Brannan interviewed in a couple of places, and I mean,
it's such a it's kind of a Mickey Mouse operation
over there. They were trying to ban Christine Brent, who's
covered women's sports.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
For like forty years. What exactly did she write, Dick?
She asked a question.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
I guess it was a playoff game where Caitlin Clark
got hit in the eye, okay last year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
And her question wasn't a very good question.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
I'm interested in what she was trying to get at
she basically what she should the question she should have asked,
and I don't remember the woman's name, Carrington maybe for
the other team. Yeah, remember this, she said the question
was the next day. The question should have been what
happened on that play where her you know, she got
hit in the eye. Instead the question was did you

(01:00:55):
mean to hit her in the eye. It was just
the wrong phrasing of the question.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
But they went nuts because she even asked the question
at all, which was absurd. It's obviously legitimate question. It
wasn't word I think that's this year, but anyway, whatever,
and they actually wanted to bark Christine Brendon. Are you serious?

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
I mean, she's one of the least controversial writers w
NBA is dealing with, deal with correct and she's written
the book and she went out of her way apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I haven't seen it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I haven't read the book, but I've seen her interviews
where she said, basically, this league was completely unready for
what was about to happen with Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Oh no, it's just an outrage. You're exactly. The NBA
owns the w n B A. Where the hell was
Adam silver.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Where is the pr machine in the NBA not understanding
what was about to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Yeah, it's crazy because if that happened, it was like
they did.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
But they did this week this year, we're flagged, right,
And I don't think for a minute she meant to
hit her intentionally in the eye, but it became a
big deal. I think the point is because they you
can't ask that question if Caitlyn Clark. If Caitlyn Clark
wasn't white, does the question even get asked. No, he

(01:02:10):
gets asked because she's white, And that's that's an issue.
What was the intent behind you exactly? Another The intent
was probably trying to steal the ball. She's a basketball player,
that would be my guess. But people get hit in
the eye all the time, and the people getting asked
the questions are black. In all these instances, it's never
been like super bird hitting. And again, I think the

(01:02:32):
black players look at that and say, you won't ask
that question if if she had the same skin collar
as me. And that's just the world. I mean, you know,
other sports have had to deal with it, I guess.
But I remember when Isaiah said that about Larry Burgh.
I'm like, Isaiah really dude, And that all came back
to Isaiah and never thought he got his just whatever,

(01:02:53):
And that's why they shut him out of the All
Star Game the one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Year, you know, the whole Jordan thing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Yeah, even though his coach, coach and Johnny Stockton went.
John Stockton was white and whatever. I'm not saying that
anything to do it. I think it was because Isaiah
was perceived as what's the right word, he just Isaiah
was always one of those guys who never thought he
got his and he was. He's a Hall of Famer,
he's a great player, but he wasn't Michael Jordan, and

(01:03:21):
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Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Rory Mcarron Roy three of his.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
First four holes. But the problem is Rory could go
load today. I hope he does because I got him
in a pool. I hope he goes loaded more. But
Scotty has yet to play. So Scotty's sitting there. There's
a lot of good scores on the board. Justin Rose
is like five under Russell Henley six under him. So
I can only assume that Russell Horse is playing so
that you can score. Okay, Now, weather can change over there.

(01:05:29):
It looks like it's a little chili. Wins can change,
rain can happen. But my god, Scotty's probably sitting there saying, yeah,
I can maybe put a good score up too. That's
the problem when you're so far behind to especially just
somebody like him. Sure, it's just like Rory could go
out and shoot sixty three today, and then if if
Scotty shoots sixty seven, you know, Rory's still gonna be

(01:05:52):
down by four going.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Into the body. You know what all he can do
is he can only do what he can do. That's
I like it. H Eagles training Camp Kyle starts winning
week or two. Uh, we got there. I thought it
was next week coming out. Yeah, how about that? So
they play September fourth, I think that's their first eighth.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
I was looking at the Eagle ski that would be
those weeks. I would be at the Eagle schedule. It
ain't easy now, that would be like Tuesday. Yeah, it's Tuesday, Tuesday,
Tuesday they did. H We'll get into that in a second. Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
So baseball today and tonight Philly six oh five in
South Philly. Uh, Taiwan Walker minus one thirty against the
Angels who lost one tenth.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
I'm gonna stay away from that game. Who's pitching for
the Angels? Any good?

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
It's you know, I watched the game last night, and
I got to be honest with you, I didn't know
a single picture for their team.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
And then think there was like a bullpen game out
of the break. You talk about franchise, is that like
just can never get out?

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Mike Crown, I think he's played in three playoff games
or two playoff games in his life.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
And then they signed the third basement from the Nats
Anthony Renda, who.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Played like five games for him and he's making like
one hundred million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
They can't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Yeah, well that that. Yeah, they were Tony that was
stayed in La predestined, didn't need to stay with the
ain Hells. So it's interesting. I got a match up
predictor here that has the Angels with a fifty five
percent chance of winning tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Yeah, I don't know. Their pitcher's probably pretty good, then
you say, and I'm not going to say his name. Right,
four and six, three eleven yr against Taiwan and the
Phillies are pretty heavy. I'll be favorite. They're not heavy.
One thirty five at home is not heavy. Not heavy.
I don't no opinion for anybody on that. Maybe the

(01:07:50):
over nine and a half my initial you know, actually
that might not be bad.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
My initial reaction would be to play the Phillies because
they lost. This said, but I don't know if I
can lay money. What's the plus one? If you get
a run in a half, you knock that down about
even money. I would do that, give up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Or more problem is what the problem is?

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
You're going to get into the Phillies bullpen probably at
some point. Yeah, McElroy now five to one third choice
in the open. Wow, did they not realize how four
cops are nine to one third choice?

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
That's what. But he's way back and not way back.
He's not way.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Backrom eighteen to one. Yeah, Robert McIntyre is not a
bad player.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Some good players up there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Scheffler bet Parks minus one seventy five, and that's probably
the bet.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
I mean, now, I'm not sure about him, Scheffler.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
What has he done really if you think about it,
that Mets minus one eighty against the surging sort of
surging Cincinnati Rinz at City Field.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
For I don't know if this one fifty for the Ridge.
I don't know if i'd lay one with the Mets.
They haven't been playing real well. And the Ridge Reds
are a wildcard team. They're they're in that wild card
in the hunt.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
They are. But also, yeah, the Phillies aren't hitting.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
You can look at the stat lines last night. Outside
of Bryce Harper, they had four hits in one run.
But with a bunch of relievers that you don't know,
it was encouraging.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Harper clearly needed a few days off. Yeah, because you
wonder if his wrist is ever gonna be right this year.
But man, he looked like himself.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
He did. He looked great. Yeah, and they're gonna need that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
They're gonna need it because the rest of that lineup,
other than Shore, where there's nobody you could depend on.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
You don't think Brandon marsh is juiced up against his
former team. I don't, Okay, I think the Phillies I
could be wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
He was for last I think after the trade deadline
they're gonna have a they're gonna have a closer, and
they're gonna have a left field or the bats right handed.
I don't know who they're gonna be. And if I
was the Phillies, I'd get two relievers. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
The problem is you're going to.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Have to give up your prospects, and that's the decision
they have to make.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
But this group, as we know it, might have another
run or two in them. You know, I'm not gonna
sit there and say they're gonna stink next year. They're
gonna stink the year after that. But this is a
chance because there isn't a team the Phillies could match
up with. You. You don't think they could win the
problem is there's not a team the Phillies match up
with it. You might say, hey, they can lose it,
and then the Dodgers aren't that much better than them,

(01:10:34):
and the Cubs, the Mets.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Whom San Diego, San Francisco. Okay, I mean the Phillies
have a chance, just like they had a chance the
last three years. All Right, NFL Tuesday Open training camps
South rookies and veterans.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
First game is in like a week or two out
of the Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame game. They're
in the Hall of Fame game now after the Yeah,
not the Eagles first game they played, the Jets they played.
I don't care. Yeah, nobody cares about it. I know
there's only three of them now exhibition.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Is there three? No, it'll be two in a couple
of years. I have eighteen regular seas. In fact, they
may not play any games. You may just scrimmage, which
is what they seem they about them. I'm fine.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
September fourth, eight, twenty pm, like at Financial Field, is
that line moved? Eagles minus seven still still minus three
fifteen on the money line against the Cowboys over under
forty six, and I they have a line for.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
The Chiefs the second game two, Game two at KC.
We'll look and tell you the answer. It will take
a game.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
Is any is there any reason that you would think
about taking Dallas with the points in that game?

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Oh, they could cover okay, seven, sevens a lot. It's
in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
It's Week one, nobody's played, they have, you know, yeah,
super Bowl hangover.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
I'm just saying to win the game, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Futures Eagle remained a favorite to win the Super Bowl
at bed Parks six and a half to one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
That sounds about right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Yeah, Baltimore seven, Buffalo seven, Kansas City seven and a half,
Detroit nine to one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Then we go all the way up to San Francisco
sixteen to one. I don't like that at all.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Washington seventeen, Cincinnati twenty. Anybody see the new sphere, the
Vikings at.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
I don't know. Minnesota is thirty to one. Green Bay.
Is that that quarterback plays j Minnesota's team is good? Yeah,
they still got Flora's running that defense.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
I mean I was almost kind of surprised they didn't
go out and get that quarterback from Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Probably back well, I mean they drafted the quarterback they had,
or even if you put Farvelle in that team.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
They were playing Detroit for the number one seed the
last game in the regular season and then imploded in
the playoffs. When I mean basically, the quarterback just hit
the wall at the end of the longest shots. Any
of these interests, you might get two hundred to one.
No Cleveland, No New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
I wouldn't take Cleveland at two hundred to one to
win the SEC to win the division.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
New York Giants. No Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Who are the Titans going with? Yeah, I guess they're
going with Ward Game one, it doesn't matter. Jackson Dart
for the Giants.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Stealers at fifty Aaron Rodgers. JJ Watt just signed not
to win the Super Bowl. T J Watt, excuse me,
I'll be all right, t J Watt. I'm not sure
Pittsburgh makes Gabe. I'm not sure Pittsburgh makes the player
you're on the Yeah, you're on the Dallas Cowboys at
fifty to one. No Dak Prescott. Is he still the quarterback?

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Check not er. But I do think Dallas is going
to win tenner eleven games. It's not Dak Kepler all right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
You know, Gabe Prescott game, Prescott Bears at thirty five
to one, No, Tampa Bay at thirty No.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
No, Baker Mayfield per year. I like Baker. I think
they're good. You're telling me to win the super Bowl?
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
So here's the next question that seems to be around
now that we're getting close to the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Jalen Hurts. Is he a good quarterback?

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Is he any good?

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Fine?

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Yeah, he's the best player in the Super Bowl twice
wins one, loses one. But the only reason he's any good, apparently,
is because they have good players on the team. Great
offensive line, great receivers, great running back. What am I
missing here?

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
First of all, when did that even become a criteria?
It's like we're now going deep into everything. Either you
can play or you can't. His track record is pretty
damn good. A his first year as a starter, he
had a good year. They got them playoffs, full time starter, right,
I have that right?

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
They lost to Tampa Bay and with Brady and they
were never and again the next year they're in the
super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
He would have been the MVP if he didn't get
hurt at the end of the regular season.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
He had the whole team imploded at the end of
the last year two years ago, and he wasn't very good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
He threw too many packs. He just damp bed uh.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
And then last year started off poorly and then he
was great and they're going well. The only reason they
won is because he didn't throw very often and they
ran a lot. But here's well, why wouldn't you run along?

Speaker 4 (01:15:30):
He also has one of the best quarterback records in
the league when he throws like thirty plus exactly pass.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
And then in the Super Bowl when Kansas City said
Barkley is not beating us, Hearts beat him.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Yeah, yeah, well the defense. But here's the He's made
the Super Bowl in Sason. Why is this why? Here's
the problem? Why is he not a good here?

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Because they ranked them ninth in an ESPN poll where
they asked GMS okay, okay, fine, and everybody gets in
Philadelphia gets whacked out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
I don't care if they rank him thirty five, It
doesn't really matter.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
How do we judge Jared Goff, What do we say, Oh,
he had a lot of good people around him last year.
How did we judge brock Birdy, Oh he had a
lot of good people around him. That's they're just doing
the same thing with Jalen Hurts. He does have Look,
I love Jalen. He's got the best offensive line in
the leaguer one of them. He's got the best two
wide receivers.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
In the leaguer one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
He's got a two thousand yard running back and he's
got a tight end. It's considered one of the best.
And his defense last year was number one in the league.
That's all people were saying. But it's okay when we
say that about other quarterbacks. But because he's our quarterback,
people get all whacked out. If you had a draft tomorrow,
Jawin ain't going in the top four quarterbacks that don't
make it runn Maybe he's better than Lamar Jackson. Maybe

(01:16:47):
he's better than the guy in Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
I don't know this, but so.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Jackson, Mahomes, Joe Burrow, and Alan and the guy who
was fifth was here's where you get Here's where you
got issues.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
Yeh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Fifth guy was a guy from Washington who's only played
one year. I got I got a problem with that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Six guys Stafford, which if again he's won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Yeah, they almost bet I'd take Hurts every step.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
I would, But if you're just judging for this year
coming up, people would take Stafford because they and they
almost beat the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
I got seven and eight. We justin Herbert is number seven,
and that's the one that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Riles everybody, because I would take Hurts if you had
a laboratory, right, that's the guy you're gonna produce. And
then and Jared Goff was ahead of them. I'm just saying,
what's the knock on golf? The knock on golf is
always only good when people were around them. Well, he
went to a Super Bowl with the Rams. I mean
they were for won fifteen games last year and his
whole defense got hurt. To me, Hurts is better than golf,

(01:17:45):
I would put I'm not saying him fifth, Dick.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
I'm not saying you're wrong. Yeah, that's where I would right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
But what I'm saying is people get all whacked out
because people are saying that about Hurts and they say
the same thing about other quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
You're one of the reasons is because he doesn't throw
the ball thirty five times of game. But the value
of Jalen Hurts is that he is this two way
threat and that he could run for twenty five yards
on a broken play.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
That is a huge part of.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
The game, especially that's Lamar Jackson's game, right, especially Allen's
game to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
A certain degree, especially these days when defense is that's
the one thing they can't really account for.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
You have one of those guys like Cincinnati and I
love Joe Burrow. He's my favorite guy, and he can run. Occasionally,
he's not out there to do that. Stafford can't run
at all. Golf can't run at all. Herbert, I don't
know has he ever run a canty run.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
I think that, to me is one of the big
values of Jalen Hurts, and that's why to me, he's
the top five guy and in the big moments, the
biggest games of his career, he has played.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
My point is, I.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Don't care people get old whacked out about this. If
you were SA Jalen's the second best quarterback or the
third best.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Quarterback, I don't care. I would tell me he's the
fifteenth best quarterback. I don't care. It doesn't matter. What
do you care. He's our quarterback. He's perfect for this team.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
And if he's got a lot of weapons around him,
good for the Eagles for doing all those things.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
All I'm saying is the same people who will say
that will then.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
Judge Brock Perdy or judge Jared Goff by what they
have around them. So if they're gonna do that with
those guys, why can't I do that with Jaalin? And
That's what I think people do. They just say, hey,
look look at all this stuff. The Eagles guy and
in that last part of twenty twenty three he looked
like crap. But he had no running game and the
defense stunk, and he threw the bad pass in Seattle,

(01:19:35):
and he fumbled against the Cowboys, and then forty.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
Nine ers came in here and try for it. Was
a mess man.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
But again last year he had Barkley give the ball
to Barkley. Hey, let the defense stop the other guy.
Hey yeah, yeah, all good ideas, all good ideas. And yeah, look,
I just.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
If you watched him at Alabama, you would say, oh
my god, this guy is a zero chance at an
NFL career because.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
He couldn't throw at all.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
And he went to Oklahoma, went to Oklahoma, Lincoln Riley,
It's why he got drafted second.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
He was at a phenomenal year in a passing offense.
But even then, when you watched him, he wasn't a
refined passer.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
He didn't look like Joe Burrows the system.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
But then over time with the Eagles, he's become a
way better thrower. You know, all the numbers are screaming that.
He's obviously a terrific leader, and he gives you a
dimension in the modern NFL where he's stronger than the
defenses he's playing against. He's faster than the guys chasing him,

(01:20:39):
and he can throw it a very accurate ball.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
I love him.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
I think he's a great you know what he is
For the most part, he's a winner. He wanted Alabama
always help. He got taken out of the title game,
and two it came. He came in that next year
the greatest thing I've ever seen in the football field.
He didn't play all year, comes in neat the SEC
title game, wins and wins it over Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
He goes out whatever. He's a winner. It doesn't matter though,
because he only threw for twenty nine hundred yards last I.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Think if if I ran for seven NFL or whoever
and scored how many touched fourteen? If they had put him,
If they had put him fifth or sixth, we won't
be having this conversation. But putting the guy from Washington,
I understand, Look, the guy from Washington, maybe his upside
is that good, but let him do it. Let him
do it for you know, a few years or whatever.

(01:21:25):
Chalan should have been fifth or six.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
Justin Hurts what he should lose my mind, because he's
the biggest choke artist in the play.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
If they look at him and they see a six
five guy, and yeah, if you had Justin Hurts and
and him in a contest, the other guy's gonna win
the contest.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
He's gonna throw the ball back game cap. Justin Herbert
three interceptions in the regular season last year, four in
the wildcard is not good.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
And yeah, he's got a coach now he's not gonna throw.
They're gonna the Chargers going to do exactly what the
Eagles are doing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
Yeah, Justin Herbert didn't have Stone Herbert didn't have fancy
passing numbers last year because they were at run heavy team.
But they still rank him better than Hertz.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Yeah that that I found that a little bizarre. But again,
Mike is right, there's no reason to be upset about it,
but I just I just found it curious that he's
held to this standard. You know, you actually watch him
play week to week and just see how much better
he's gotten over over the four years.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Man, he's one of the ones.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
One to one of the other things I think plays
into this, and I think it plays into it well,
party for because he didn't get taken in the first
round by some So there's exacts out there like maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
We screwed up, and I just think they look at
it that way. Stafford number one pick, golf number one
pick was Herbert. Herbert wasn't the number one pick. The
number one there was quarterbacks. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
But again, and even when people analyze that that that's
the same way taken in the fourth round.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Oh he can't be that good. Yeah, Then all of
a sudden, yeah, maybe he can be pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Took a while for Lamar Jackson to get taken end
of the first round, Yeah, right, nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Only because Baltimore moved back up the table. About that,
I mean, they may mistakes. I didn't think around six,
I didn't think Taleen was going to be this good.
The Eagles didn't think Taleen was going to be this good.
There's no way but he is.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
So you know what, I'll take the super Bowl ring
over him being ranked the number two quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
I don't I'd rather him be ranked number two and
we don't have a super Bowl rather than him nine.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
I was thinking this year.

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
I forget this sometimes because you know, the Chiefs have
been in the last five Super Bowl the impress that's
you can't do that or no, the last five. No,
there was one year to the Bengals. Correct, the Bengals
got him one year. Since five of the last six,
Mahomes has been their quarterback. They've been the best day.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Of six super Bowl dominant. It's been pretty awesome. Yep.
And they've they've won three and lost two.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Does that sound right? And the two that they lost
was because the other team beat the crap out of Mahomes.
The Bucks did it and the Eagles did it. At
both times the Chiefs line was screwed up and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
They had whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
And so the one of these people to try to
tell me you Mahomes no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
don't want to hear that. Mahomes is great. That team
shouldn't have even been near the Super.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Bowl last year with the team they had.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
The only thing I misread was that the Eagles were
so much better than them by the time they got
to that point.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Yeah, that was the one thing that was obvious to
me and a few other people. By the time we
got the mid February last year, the Eagles were peaking.
The Chiefs won every game by a field goal. The
Eagles were just physically dominanting.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
The Chiefs had no business being there if they were,
have Mahomes and the Eagles had that chip on their shoulders.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Yeah, under value. I valued that high. Yeah, I mean
just and you know what, but of me and people
were writing that game, people are writing the Chiefs off,
all right because the division is tough.

Speaker 5 (01:24:46):
For I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
I wouldn't, right, But let's let's see, Buffalo.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
Should be the number one seed this year because they're
schedules should make them the.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Number And Mahomes said something interesting after the Super Bowl.
If you remember the game, is like, or was it,
It was a ten to nothing before the pick sex.
Is that how that's thirteen?

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Yeah? I think that's ten nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
Then they fumbled again and the Eagles scored on the
Brown touchdown, and it was like twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
That was a pick by ball right right.

Speaker 6 (01:25:12):
After the pick by by two in a row, right,
So I Baham said after the game, he said, you
know what, in Kansas City's defense was certainly playing well enough,
and they.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Had a great defense. He said, I messed up. He says,
I should just let the defense keep playing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
I started to want to force things because ten nothing,
it's ten to nothing in the second quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
That means nothing. Yeah, he was trying to do too much, right,
and he just and he threw the two picks in
the game was over.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
But I and this doesn't mean the chief should go
to get back through the Super Bowl this year or
win the division or whatever. But Mahomes has lived with
that game. Sure, and when the Bucks beat the crap
out of him like that that year, they came back.
And I'm not saying I don't know, but these people
that think the Chiefs are just.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Going to be called the Jets, they're getting their weapons
from home. It was a bad matchup against the team
that wanted to kick there, and that's what exactly. It's
funny and a team that at that stage was just
I know we got that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
But the top four quarterback said everybody kind of agrees
with something. They all play in the other the other thulf.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
Yeah, no, that's why it's it's cool to be in
the NFC because it ain't that hard to win, No, Right,
the FFC's brutal.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Another reason hurts. Isn't that good?

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
Yeah, there's no competition, right, he said a Bathlet. Well,
they have a brutal schedule this year, so they have
a great record. Again, he'll be part of it.

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