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Maryl Ohiowa, Michigan, Gambling Problem one, eight hundred Gambler, Dick Jarready,
Mike Kurr, John Janssen, Kyle Lennemaker, all here at the
Sportsbook two gigantic college football games to unite, both unfortunately
are at the same time two hundred miles west of here,
penn State, minus three and a half at pet Park's
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over Oregon on NBC Georgia, with a thirty three game
home winning streak minus two and a half against Alabama
that is on ABC Eagles tomorrow one o'clock, three and
a half point favorites at Tampa Bay MLB Playoffs for.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Those people interested in such things.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Milwaukee as a one game lead over the Phillies with
two to go, but really they have a two game
lead because they hold the tiebreakers. So for the Phillies
to get the number one seed, they would need to
win their last two.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Have Milwaukee lose their last two. Dodgers are locked.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
In a three some form of Chicago at San Diego
gonna play each other in the four or five. Probably
Chicago's gonna get a home They got a little bit
of a lead, but San Diego's got the tiebreaker. Then
Cincinnati and the Mets are locked in for six, and
at the moment, Cincinnati has the lead because they have
the tiebreaker, and they are tied Americaly Toronto the one Seattle,
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which is by the way, one seventeen of eighteen until
they lost last night. Cleveland is three because they hold
the tiebreaker over Detroit. Yankees are four, Boston five, so
it probably New York and Boston if things don't change,
because Toronto and New York are tied, but Toronto old
is a tiebreaker. And then Detroit, one of the all
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time fades in the history of the world.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Looks like they're gonna get six. Houston's just about.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Magic numbered out they lose or somebody else wins, they
are out.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Mike, Huge college football night. What are you looking forward
to the most? Just one thing about baseball? Cincinnati's playing Milwaukee. Yes, indeed,
they have so play. They both have something to play
for and in the AL I think it's fascinating that
it looks like you're going to get Boston, New York
and Detroit Cleveland again, which is.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
To me, the two best matchups you could ever won.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah, And for the people that haven't been following this,
Cleveland was fifteen.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
And a half back.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
They were eighty to one at the start of September
to win the division. Yeah, I mean in early July,
it just got swept by Detroit. And to Mike's point,
even starting like at the beginning of September, they're double
digits behind. Tigers had the best record in Baseball August Detroit.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
They're twelve and a half behind Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
They sell off everybody, everybody, Their best closers suspended because
of a gambling investigation. One of their other pictures is suspended,
and they went seventeen of nights.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
That's why you can't they took the lead. You can't
try to make sense.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That's why I took the oriol I was open, they
were Cleveland. It turned out they weren't. That was You
had the right idea. You just had the full team,
right Church wrong. Pew Furials have been hot the last
two weeks. I know I don't want high.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
The Seattle I mentioned, I mean save one seventeen of
eighty to blow that division wide open. Here's a great
stat for people. If what's the guy Swerez for Seattle?
Now they got they got.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Him from Virginia Eugenios.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
If a new Hania he gets one more home run,
he's got forty nine, it'll be the first time in
MLB history five.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Players in the same season a fifty or more runs. Obviously,
we have Raleigh as sixty. He did not at one
last night. Swarves has what fifty six fifty? Otani's like
at fifty four and Judges wherever he is.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
It's going to be interesting. You have two MVP races.
If I'm reading this correctly, it's either going to be
Rally or Judge. Judge is bagging like four fifty like
the last two weeks. I mean, he's gonna win the
batting time. I think Roy should be the MVP just
because of how he broke the catcher record by like
fo were ten home runs at Mickey Mantle right Heat
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and Indiana. It's going to be interesting to see if
they give it to Otani or Schwarber, because I I think,
and again, this could be my Philly bias heavy favorite.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I understand that, but you're gonna tell me that Schwarber
really couldn't. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
They say he's not an everyday player. Yes, he's an
every day players, he just doesn't go out in the
field every day. So at bet Parks, the up to
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Speaker 3 (05:35):
Try favorites with those two interesting because there's no reason
why the Phillies shouldn't be at.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Least a co favorite Yankee six and a half, Milwaukee
eight and a half, Toronto ten.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Detroit all the way after twenty five.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Theod Cincinnati at fifty could be a great playoff.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Oh yeah, we could be, because it's the team to
get hot, right team. The fact that Detroit is just
the head of the Mets is insane. It's pretty wild
to say. And this is I guess maybe a good
job by Dave Dombrowski. But the Phillies are maybe the
most complete team heading into the playoffs. They're missing their
best pitcher, absolutely, and they're still they're one of the
more complete team.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
There they are, but they are they still have maybe
one of the best pitching. Now, the Dodgers are gonna
they're they're fooling around with there, they're they're they're in
impress But again, the Phillies, they're starting pitching. It's all
gonna come down to do they hit the ball they
hit the I'm not saying your starting pitching is gonna be.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Great, but it ain't gonna be bad. It's it's gonna
be decent.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
It's gonna keep you in games. That's all you need.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
In the playoffs, the outfield can be a factor, like
they've been the last since Vader got here. Then then
then another team to be And I think Harper the
team to be to me, Harper and I know so
has been playing really well, but it would help if
you had a healthy Turner.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And I don't know if they're gonna have a healthy Turner.
Might not happen, but he looks like they're gonna play
next saturd from what I can gather.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Yeah, first game at home.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yes, and maybe if they're the one seed, they don't
play Saturday. Maybe they play.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I haven't good Yeah, I mean, look, and I'm the
last guy to ever say, hey, I think the Phillies have.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
They have that look about them. They have a real shot.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And also for those interesting looking forward, if they get
to the World Series, they will have the home field
because they have a better record.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
They can't not have a better record.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
But I don't want to hear one Philadelphia fan tell me, boy,
they can't lose it home.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yes they can.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The history of my life is that the Phillies should
move it home in the playoffs. They did the Diamondbacks
exactly unless you're one year old. Would you rather be
at home? Absolutely, rather be at home? But it's not
all right? So yeah, their normal nine to eleven on
Saturday is in the fall. And then we have John
Janssen and Kyle here. This is very exciting. Yeah, I'm
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feeling a little clauser phobic. Tables a little too crowded. Yeah,
they weren't all these used to this.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I can take care of that.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
So college football won't be ours is here in the
first hour, with one exception, we'll go over the Eagles
stamp of Big Game, then the NFL.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
In the second hour, let's start with let's start with
college football.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
We'll start with the game in Beaver Stadium tonight on NBC,
pet State minus three and a half over Oregon now
or never. Yeah, I mean obviously, the James Franklin stats
that jump off the page are four and twenty against
the top ten one in the Big Ten. Yeah, four
and seventeen against Ohio State and Michigan, and well, if
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you want to include Oregon four.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
And eighteen because they lost in a Big Ten championship
game and drew Aller. I didn't realize this. The bear
Chris Filiku does the Fox shows used to be on ESPN.
I'm sure he's right.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Against power four ranked teams, drew aller three and six,
fifty four percent completion, eleven touchdowns, five picks under two losses.
Last year they scored what ten and Ohio State and yeah,
not much the two record season losses. Oh no, he
played well in the Big Ten title game. They Oregon
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just outscored him better.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
But is that an alur problem or is that a
head coach problem?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And both.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
And look he hasn't Yeah, I would say both. He
hasn't played well at the beginning of the season. I
talked to Steve Jones to pets they played by play guys.
Or is that they're just not showing anything. Yeah, they're
not showing anything. But even having said that, when you
watch him, he just didn't look.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Sharp to me. And this is now you're gonna look sharp.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Against like I mean, you're talking about going from let's
be kind here a baseball to like the major leagues
like like, to the playoffs like overnight.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
But it's but they not showing anything is fine, but
also execute the simple plays and they have it right.
That's that would be the big thing for me is
he is missing very simple.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
When they when they set schedule, all the heats on
him and all the heat when they set the schedule,
they knew this.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
These three games, we're not gonna We're not gonna do Now.
Do you think we might look better? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
They won fairly handily with they knew to add to
bye week. This game is set up for them, so
there's no way. But if you're looking at it realistically,
you gotta the logics is to play Oregon.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Okay, well we're making our picks right now. What do
you look he will We'll let you go for are
you logic? Penn State is giving three and a half?
Is that the lines correct?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
That Parks There's part of me that thinks that this
is going to be the time Franklin finally could Now
you're gonna cover three and a half four and twenty.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, I'm going to go two for me. I'm gonna
go totally against me.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I'm gonna take the knits because I don't think there's
any way that you should take the knits, So I'm
gonna take them.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
So here here's how pet State wins the game.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
If they win the game, they and they rushed for
like two hundred and fifty yards at a Big Ten title.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Okay, that's what they're gonna try to do in this game.
They're gonna Handy Tine out score them.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
No, they're gonna hand the ball to Secle Allen and
hope that they have fifteen play drives and Oregon's not
throwing sixty yard touchdown passes.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I mean that that's the way they're gonna win. If
they're gonna win, me, I've just watched this happen too
many times. Look, the coach has.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Had a lot of success, I mean a lot of
one hundred and four and forty two and twelve years.
Took over and it was two years after the sanctions.
It was not a great time in bench state football.
He stabilized the program. They've had a lot of really
good players come through.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
There, a lot of high draft choices, including two last
year who were their two best players. But until he
wins and juwe Aller wins, I am questioning. I'll take
the three and a half good, you're smart, that's the play.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Yeah, I'm gonna tell what Dick just said until they
prove otherwise. And I've said this throughout this entire show
the last couple of years until they prove me otherwise.
In these big games, I got to go the opposite.
And now the fact that Oregon, it's actually up to
four now is getting four, why not take the points
as well. Penn State the first two weeks kind of
slept walk through those two games because they hood, yeah, uh,
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now we're sitting here. Are they gonna be able to
just turn on the switch and ramp it up?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It's a great question. I think they could come out
a little slow. Uh, and you can't do that against
this team. I'll take the four And for the people
that have everybody's seen it.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
But if you've actually been there for one of these
white outs that I've been there, it's a scene.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
It's one of the great scenes in sports.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
But until you get punched in the mount right, there's that.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And and look are Dan Lanning. They've been in big games.
They were in the playoffs last year. They got rocked,
obviously to the Ohio State, but they were undefeated through
they were a number one seed, and he's had Look,
Oregon's been really good for quite a long time now,
and Dan Lanning has just made it. He has kept
it going, JOHNA, you're the deciding voter. It's either a
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dead eat or were a three to one for Oregon. Uh,
what do you think of the Ducks plus four?
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Yeah, And a lot of the questions go to Penn
State because they haven't won these games. But I question
if Oregan is that team though. If Oregan is like
an Ohio State Michigan for what is most been for
Penn State the thorn in their side? But are they
actually the number six seam in the country. Are they
one of the best teams in college football? This is
not this is the Oregon team from last year. They
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all moved on. The Oregon starting quarterback right now is
behind Joe Flacco and Cleveland. So this is a very
new team and I'm just not one hundred percent sure
if they are this good. But they played that way
and Penn State hasn't beat teams like this, So I'm
going to go Oregon.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I don't love it though, just because I don't shouldn't before. Yeah,
And that's why I'm taking and I'm just taking them
to be contralling.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
If you're on the Penn State side.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
The other thing you're thinking, all right, Oregon's been in
significant games, but they were on the PAC twelve.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
They haven't had a big ten road game like this.
They were at Northwestern in front of twelve people in
Lake Michigan. A couple who they go to last year.
They must have went to somebody. Oh no, they got
Ohio State at home, right because the point.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
And I don't believe they played Michigan. No, they at home.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
They certainly did not win at Michigan. Misigan was a
good last year, but they didn't.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Have They went to Michigan, but Michigan wasn't good. They
went to Purdue in Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
So this is going to be the first time against
the team of technically equal ability. My other issue with
Penn State is their two best players from last year,
which are.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Responsible for a ton of their I mean defense. Carter
was great and the tight end, I mean he's awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Who, by the way, is playing really well for an
unbeaten indie team.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
If he just was, it was just obvious that kid
was going to be really good when you watched them. Now,
the wide outs are way better than the guys they
had last year at pet State.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Way better.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
They haven't been the problem of posting the quarterback he's
just is missing too many open throws. But uh, it's
the fascinating contest for a number of reasons.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Yeah, I mean, and for Oregon, their quarterback is new,
their running back was has been in organ but wasn't
their leading rusher last year, and their.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Top wide receiver so far here as a freshman.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Here's what it's Sometimes it's funny in college football and
you see it.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
That doesn't matter, like it's just like some teams. Just
here's what's bizarre.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
The quarterback at Oregon and the quarterback at Tennessee were
both at you see l A.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
What would you want to beat you? So there you go.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
My man, Steve Joe just watched a whole lot of
tape on this. He tells me who what's the name
of the Argon quarterback Dante Moore? He loves on tape.
He said he's been great.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, NFL type talent. Yeah, so we'll see.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
I don't know why didnt U c l A. I
don't know because U c l A stinks? He Dante
Moore thought U c l A stunk so much. He's like,
I'm just gonna go to Oregon and city here and
he backup so I can just figure this out again.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
And then he did.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
And you know what, you know what, I'd better not
see if Penn State wins, and obviously they could, and
especially if it's like a like a you know field
no no.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
The fans storm the field. You better not store in
the field with no no no, the coach and the court.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I don't think the coach better knock you up at
the podium afterwards and basically say to people like I talked, no, dude,
because then I'm going to root against you when you
play Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I'm gonna root for Ryan Day to pull you into
the ground.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And also what it's week five for the regular just
say hey, just say hey, it was a great win.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
For our program. And then yeah they got that, they
got they got a tough game next week Indiana.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
At all I know is but you got to say, hey,
it was a great win for our program. But don't say, hey,
we proved it to all you Pete no no, and
that and that and that week Like John's not not
week five, not week ten.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I'm sure he would be happy to do that. All right.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
The other game that we need to give a long
treatise one. We'll get to the rest of the college
dances for the second Eagles.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Why oh you're getting okay? Eagles minus three and a
half at Tampa the early game.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Eagles are the early game again next week at home
against Denver blasphemy. So last week was one of the
more insane games any of us have ever seen. They
look like, it looked like they were uninterested for thirty minutes.
They were getting pushed around, mauled basically by the Rams.
They're down with twenty six to seven at the half,
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and it felt like it could have been forty to seven.
I mean, the Rams are running up and down the field.
Then the second half it's a totally different game. They
take the lead with under two minutes left, the Rams
can't do anything. Then the Rams are going down to
win the game, and you knew Stafford was taking them down.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
They coulda shot to win the game.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
And they block the second straight Vehlic goal and then
pick it up and run for a spread covering touchdown.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
You which I've never seen that exact play before. I'm
sure it's happened. I don't remember anything quite with a
three hundred.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
And forty pound guy running the ball. It was Yeah,
you weren't nobody who's catching up? John, You've watched a
lot of ball. You ever see anything quite like No?
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I have.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Well, also watching that and then watching the Jets do
it minutes later, that was the wildest Sunday in terms
of kicking and special teams. I think I've ever set
the Jets win j even though the coach celebrated like
youre yeah, just I've never seen anything like it. And
it took every ounce of that to win that game. So,
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I mean you can look at that too, like one
of two ways. Either they definitely did what they needed
to to win, but also it took them an entire
half of football to figure it out and they only
won because of some really wild stuff. Yeah, so I
maybe they can take what they did in the offense
in the second half and maybe that propels them forward.
But also they didn't play great football, like they were
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pretty awful in the first time.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
They were terrible.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
And it's interesting Hurts on field, he's getting more and
more confident in himself and staying stuff. He actually said
we played not to lose, yeah to Pam Oliver, right,
which was true.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
In the first half, I mean they were third and fifteen,
they were running the ball.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I mean, I got it to a point because they
were backed up so much that want to give away points.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
But what are the up to now? Nineteen of twenty? Okay, correct,
listen to me. That's the bottom line, or this is
the way, this is how they play. They made a
decision last year, we're not going to turn the ball over.
We got the number one defense in the league, and
we got a running back who's gonna rush for two thousand.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
He hasn't done anything this year really, and that's they
don't get explosive plays. And they can go to a
j Brown when they want to, and they can go
to DeVante and they can go. Let them play how
they're playing there. Are they going to lose a few? Probably,
as long as they don't lose the last one. Okay,
if they win this week, they might they're going to
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be four and oh. In the toughest stretch of their
schedule was September. Stop Brees, Drew Brees, Really because you're
trying to get on first take, I understand, Drew. Their
offense is boring?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Oh is it boring?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Are they weak? I mean, I just don't get this
infatuation in people.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
They said it last year, we're saying here the whole thing, Oh,
they can't do that, Oh they can't do that, And
you're up on the Chiefs thirty four or nothing in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Oh yes they can.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
So you know what, Yeah, I mean it's in pretty
old at time. No, no, And I think it's boring
for multiple ways. But one of the reasons why it's
boring is teams are blitzing the Eagles a lot because
Jalen hurts seems to not not that it's his problem,
but it's been a problem that they've had for years,
whether it's the offensive Jalen blitzed tomorrow, and it's a
lot of one on one and all it is is
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basically Jalen just throwing it up to DeVante Smith or A. J.
Brown or it's a comeback round and he's just throwing
it to him on a spot or anticipation. It's so
it's just it feels like pitch and catch. So it
feels boring as it works because it's one on one
A J.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Brown. The only thing Forbes could not cover anyone, the
only thing to do.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And I don't know why they don't do this, but
in the first half, bull not a lot a j Brown.
If he played on a team that threw the ball
all the time, he would be considered maybe the best
receiver in the league. Want he beat the March. Maybe
he's not as good as changed, but he's ridiculous. In
the second half, all they were they weren't running patterns.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
The one guy pointed out on the.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It was a or lawski. They ran him ten yards
down the field, stop and throw them the ball and
then the guy missed the tackle. He got like another fifteen.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
He was.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
So everything that happened to me the play of the game. Yeah,
obviously the Blackfield Golf you had the Hurts touchdown passed
the Smith.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
How about that? That was awesome? How about that?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
The timing of it was brilliant. The pass was perfect
under and if you miss it, it's fourth that you
lose over. That was his clutch up play. And that
tells confidence. That tells you where Jaalen Hurts is. And
this is what gets me upset. I understand that Jail
when he's not built like the guy on sand the Chargers,
who by the way, is having a great year with
his coach. He's not Lamar, He's not I get it.
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He's not, but when he asked to be, or when
you need he can be that.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
That was gonna be half big time is everybody criticizes
Jalen and the offense for all it's so boring and
all they do is run the ball, Yeah, because they
choose to because it works. How many times have they
been in a hole and Jalen has had to prove, oh,
I got to use my arm to win this game.
And he's gone and done correct and he still gets credited.
And the key last week Lane Johnson goes out. They
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don't win when Lane Johnson, but you can look it
up the numbers. I don't know if he's playing tomorrow
or what his status prior came in and was.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Shoot up.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And then they bought the guy in the rated for
Fred Johnson. Last year they traded, they let him go,
but they got him this year again, right, they traded back.
They pull everything changed, absolutely the whole thing. And nobody
gives the Eagles credit for just saying, you know what
I'm saying. But in the NFL about give Vic Fangio credit.
(22:58):
This defense is not showing off that much.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Second half, second half shutout after getting rumbled. I mean,
you know, and they're doing it with some new guys
and whatever. On to tomorrow. Uh, Kyle will start with you.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
We need to pick Eagles minus three and a half
on the road against their recent kryptonite Tampa back.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Yeah, recent kryptonite. No Evans for no Evans safe.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
The other guy might be back.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
The other receivers matter because of Mega Buca looks incredible right.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Now, high state receiver. The only one is the only one.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
That I'm gonna take Tampa here to cover. I know
Evans is out. Uh, it has been their kryptonite. But
just with the three and a half, I think it's
gonna be three point game. Come down to the water,
I'll take the cover. It's gonna be eight hundred degrees. Yeah,
apparently this one. I really want to stay away from
this one.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
John, Yeah, I guess I would go Tampa just because
they play close games. But their offense isn't particularly inspired.
It's okay, and they've had they definitely have.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Had some injuries. They find ways to win too. Yeah,
they're definitely we find a way all three wins. In
the last mix, it isn't It.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Is a very pretty offensively at times, and it's a
lot of just Baker kind of guns slinging it at
the end of game, which he's with their.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Their defense has a way to deal with.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
That's That's the one thing that's been pretty consistent with
them is their defense has been good and Todd Polse
is just a really great defensive defensive part.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Here's how it looks. I guess I would go Tampa
just because of the point.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, the racial champion issues. So the playoff game two
years ago to me is irrelevant for this game. That
was the Eagles team that they were hurt A j
didn't playing regular season game. I don't believe Brown plays,
So yeah, I'm not sure what all that means, but
it might just be a bad matchup because of how
Tampa plays. Having said all that, I'm riding nineteen of
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twenty until the until told otherwise.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I'll give the three and a half Mike and and
the playoff game in twenty did legal fans forget because
he actually thought they could.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Go down there and beat Tom Brady People like them, Dawn?
Would you?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Also, Levante David didn't practice yesterday too, so he might
be out of this.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
To me, is the Penn State game.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
There is no reason to bet the Eagles just other
than what Dick just said, but they could win the
game and not cut Tampa Bay getting three and a
half in a series.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
They've dominated a degree. But you're doing what I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Gonna take the Eagles because probably bad, but I just
because I can see him winning by less than three,
I mean three or less. The Eagles just I think
they have the best team in football. And I think
there's a lot of good teams. I think the Chargers
are really good. I think the two teams, the Bills,
the Ravens gotta show me.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
A little bit more. They are there, but they're still good.
But again, and I.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Think the Lions are good. And I think the Packers,
despite what happened last week, I think they're good. They
should be football teams. Packers, they should. Jordan Love should
be relegated for throwing at me that I'm taking the
Birdies stupid.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
It doesn't concern you that a Dori Jackson is doubtful
for this.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Helps me Jackson, Bennett, no one Smith.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
There's no reason to play the Eagles the other cornerback.
Do we even Oh yeah, it's something ringo, ringo. I
guess there's no reason to bet the Eagles, just like
there's no reason to bet the Knits. Well, actually the
Eagles have one big games.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
No, no, but.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
But if you said the win, but giving the three
and a half down there, I don't like that. It's
a big number on the road.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
All right, before we get to the break, let's do
Georgia Alabama and then we'll get to the rest of
the college games.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Georgia minus two and a half between the hitches. Uh,
they have won thirty three games in a row at
all because they haven't played Bama home. They're playing Alabama.
ABC clickers around tonight flipping one in college football should
be shot for having no college football?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
For having these games?
Speaker 7 (27:03):
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violence on this show? We could have figured out a
way to have one game at four and one game
at seven. Really, so I gotta go with my clickers. Now,
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Kirby Smart is one and six against the Bamas. But
the win was a national title. That's how okay? So
and dom beating Saban was the coach and all those
other games except for last year. Last year, which was
a great game. I remember that game was nuts.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
This is again to me, You've got to beat Bama here,
and I think Bama's good. I know they lost that
game early on to Floridas Day, which lost to Virginia.
George is only laying a point and a half. Is
at the morn two and a half and if won
thirty three. Now Saban was the coach, maybe I would whatever.
I'm taking the Bulldogs. That's a that's a fair stay.
(28:00):
I am also going to take Georgia at home. I
like the winning streak. Yeah, Alabama has looked fine since
the Florida Saint game. That was an operation for people.
Don't know, I might just refer to it.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Florida State lost the two overtimes in Virginia last night,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna give you the bet of
the year.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Virginia's next game is a Louisville battle. I don't care
what the rest John, Georgia, Bama, what do you got?
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Yeah, this is a little bit difficult for me because
I have I've you like that. I liked Bama coming
into the year. The Florida State game was obviously very bad,
but I feel like I saw the offense. It was
only Wisconsin, but Ty Simpson was extremely efficient. Rights to Wisconsin,
he looked awesome. So the talent's there. Ryan Williams is
finally waking up. He had a really bad kind of
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second half of last year. All that it's looked great.
I'm kind of believing in the talent a little bit.
In Alabama, I'll go I'll Gobama here. Yes, Georgia played
well against Tennessee, but Tennessee's defense stinks. I mean, Tennessee
played great, exist Tennessee's offense is really good. John.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
You see the line is only two and a half
or is that about what it should be? That's about
I thought it would be over a fuel goals.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, I don't that was me. I agree with you.
I don't think.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
I think it's because of their defense and just the
way they play. George is not looked like.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
But they've won thirty three in a row. Oh yeah,
and they've beaten Bama like a drum. I mean, no,
Bama's beating them like a trump. I'm sorry, you can
break the tire.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Yeah, it's interesting because if this Georgia Tennessee game was
last week. I might be swayed a different way just
because how do you get back up on your horse
after emotional win like that? But the fact that they've
had two weeks to prepare for this, ye put that
in the rear view. I'm gonna ride Georgia here at
home minus two.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
And a half.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah, so with George's three to one, so just John
is the only Bama. So just dive on Bata. Get
to take the point.
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on to the col college football So wait a minute, wait,
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Speaker 2 (33:28):
Mike Current, I just want to say I listened to
a lot of your telecast last week with the Pennsylvania Derby. Yes,
very good stuff, and especially the Smarty Jones tribute thing
put together, I mean and again, and I don't have
I guess because I was on the air when Smarty
lost the Belmont and didn't look like he was gonna
(33:50):
lose it. But but I think people have a tendency
because it's been so long to forget how those horses,
the three of them, I'll put the I'll lump the
three together. Even though Smarty was probably the most I
don't know what they did for the horse racing interest
absolute level in this area. To have three horses in
three straight years, have chances to do those kind of things.
(34:12):
Five out of seven Triple Crown races unreal with a
second and a third horses and the Alex Lemonade, Stan
Stuart and Phillis worth five And of course Barbara went
to Derby you know six, Yeah, Mike, that was Bruce
Casella put that together.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
And the cool thing.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
I don't know if you guys got a chance to
see it. We were able to surprise Pat Chapman, the
owner of Smarty Jones. Uh the announcement about whether the
horse was going to make the Hall of Fame was
coming on a Thursday, and we were able to tell
her Tuesday night because the Hall of Fame let me
know ahead of time, and that's when made the.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Feature and I wrote the feature on d Wayne Lucas.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Uh. It was a fun show. Thank you for saying that.
And you get to see me at a code time
once a year. That's about it.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
And your horse won by azo one. I don't know
how many times did I say he's going to run
the race of his life five, you know, like just
start betting and don't stop at seven.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
It was a good line.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
The guy was who was the first fate? He said, well,
there was no sovereignty in the It was a great line.
It was a great line. Kept running, he said. The
only thing missing was sovereignty or.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Something like that. Whatever line he had, it was wonderful.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
He's a good man, all right. USC at Illinois, Mike's
got a stat for us at a second. It started
at five and a half now minus seven at Illinois.
This is a Fox Noon game last week. For the
people that missed it, I don't know how you could
have Illinois was tied it in the add at seven
to seven. In the added, proceeded to score the next
fifty six sixty three to ten final. They just crushed Illinois,
(35:38):
took their spirit, took their heart away.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Mike, you got a US yes staged.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I might be like one game off with this part
I read with US SEA since twenty thirteen. Now, these
are Notre Dame games some of them, sure well, every
other year would be. When they beat Northwestern two weeks ago.
I think it was Northwestern, that's two weeks ago, that's correct.
It was their first win since twenty thirteen East of
the Rockies.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
I don't know what to make it at. Like I said,
maybe Illinois stinks.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
It couldn't even be Colorado because Colorado is for the
people that don't know. Boulder is actually east of the Rocky.
The Rockies are on the other side of one of
two things to me, is gonna happen in this game.
And I don't know how good USC is. They haven't
been really good a little bit. But anyway, either Illinois
is going to be so disgusted with what happened they're
going to come out in front of their fans, or
they're going to be so disoriented that they can't recover.
(36:31):
I'm going to take the aline getting the touchdown because
I had him last week getting a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, they needed more than a touchdown U.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
So yeah, I would expect Illinois to bounce back a
little bit here maybe, but I think Lincoln Riley's back.
That offense looks phenomenal and the only reason why the
score look kind of close in Michigan State just lay touchdown.
That game is over before it started. This offense has
been really good. My my ava, I don't know how
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to say his name. Quarterback. They're unbelievably talented, and Malachi
Lemon and just the entire wide receiver group. It's really
good for USC. That offense is a juggernaut. So if
Indiana put up sixty points, I don't expect you was
c to maybe put up sixty, but they're gonna put
up a lot, So I love you.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I think a line nine might win out and white.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
And for the people that don't know, I've been to
a game the famous Penn State ninety four team clinch
the Big Ten championship. In that game where they came
from like three touchdowns behind and one.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
At the end, it's kind of a dead stadium. It's
the middle of nowhere. They don't get it's not a
great football fan base. Their basketball fan base is much better.
The basketball gyms right next to the football stadium, which
was built for Red Grange, you know, like one hundred
years ago.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
It is still Illinois's greatest player by like a lot.
So it's not a great home field advantage. I don't
have a great opinion on it.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
But any team that lost sixty three to ten, it's
hard for me to say I think that he's a
great Coach's unbelievable three points on the road.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
No, no, No, that game was that Indiana was at Indiana. Yeah,
and they play they play at Penn State Indiana this year.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah soon, Like new quarterback, like all this stuff new
this year.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
John, I'm telling you you keep saying that. I understand
new college football does not matter anymore. You can have
a new quarterback because every team has a new quarterback.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
But he could also turn out really, but.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Sure can't say this guy is a hell of a coach. Yeah,
he's all I mean Indiana football.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I mean, seriously, you know I'm gonna make it. He
will not be in Indiana forever.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah, if somebody big, somebody's gonna scoop him, somebody's gonna
throw ten million years.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yes, it's crazy. Not tomorrow tomorrow More is not careful here,
He's not Ye.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with what Mike Current said his
first point, where Illinois could come into this game completely
just disrupted and disheartened after what happened last week. And
that's what the line's telling you here. I mean minus
seven road favorite for USC. I'm gonna ride with the
line here. I'm gonna go with USC.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Is that fair enough?
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Other noon game ABC first ever meeting Notre Dame at Arkansas.
This line started early in the week at Bett Parks
at six and a half, is now three and a half.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
All the money's coming.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I have a Notre Dame theme big time, pretty big time.
And I asked him and said, hey, he goes they're losing,
and I was like, I was a little surprised by that,
and I know and apparently solid the Arkansas people are
all upset that.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
This is a noon game. They get Notre Dame, like,
this is Notre Dame's coming.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
To your stadium. You ain't, you ain't getting a Nike game.
And yet and the other thing we had Alabama Georgia.
One more thing with the USC game.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
It's a nine am Pacific time stock for the for
the which might be one of the reasons whider record
easter of the Rocket.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
He isn't that good. I don't know. This is a game.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I don't like this game because I think Saul could
give them a run. Notre Dames defense, right, Johns has.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Not been all that right bring back alcohol?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Hey, how Golden did a you know maybe though he
had twenty guys on the field for the Ohio State
play not turn out not helpful. I don't I don't
like this game. I'm past John.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
You gotta pin.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
Yeah, it's a tough one just because Notre Dames defense
has not been the same as it was last year.
It flashed a little bit against Purdue last week, but
not enough. Their offense has actually been pretty good. I
think CJ Cars looked phenomenal. So that's that's why I
probably will.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Go with Notre Dame. A good Jarkansas John, Their quarterbacks amazing.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Taylor Green is awesome, but he played a great game
last week and they lost the Memphis so that's yeah,
it's it's a big problem with me is there there's
not a lot of talent around Taylor Green and even
their defense isn't all that good. So I like Sam Pittman,
but this coming into the year, I didn't think this
team was all that great. Uh, and it showed really
they have a talented quarterback and about it.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
I think Notre Dame has too many good players. Yeah. Yeah,
I like the fact that the money is. I thought
the line was low. Yeah when I first saw it,
and it scared me because I didn't know what the main.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Was it because of that Notre Dame defense, I think so. Yeah,
because they they're they're wanting to.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Is Arkansas hostile part used to play? Yeah, it's it's hard.
It's at sec place, don't mean Notre Dame. You know
they'll be sure they want to scream at all the guys.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Should you think they'll be drinking down there? Yeah, they
they've been drinking for a week.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
It's no link on a Saturday in Temple game.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
So Notre Dame minus three and a half. Kyle, you
got a thought on this.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Uh, not a huge thought, all right, Notre Dame. Here,
I I am looking at the over under, which is
sixty four. Might seem high, but just looking at how
these defenses have played to start the season, I might
mean the over on that one.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah, but uh three thirty Ohio State. It was nine
and a half, now nine at bet Parks at Washington
on CBS. Now, Washington's got a long winning streak, home
winning streak, like like it's twenty two in a row.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I don't know what relevant set has Kyle was arn't
with you here? Only nine.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
I've been riding in Ohio State for so long, rightfully,
so I don't care if the line's nine and they're
on the road.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
I like Ohio State here.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
And for the people who don't know, the coach at
Washington is Jed Fish who was at Michigan for a
while and then was at Arizona briefly.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Or that sounds right, but you go from Arizona to Washington. Yeah,
Washington's a better chaff. I think he was a head
coach at Arizona brief That could be wrong about that,
but anyway, he's the second year at Washington.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Obviously, Washington that good that they'd only be getting nine. Yeah,
that's Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
I'd be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I don't know a lot about well, they just tourched
Washington State, I think or somebody, which, Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
They triumphed over the other squad for the Big two.
Argon crushed Argan State. John, you got a thought on
the Buckeyes giving nine in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
So Ohio State played the really big like all time
opener Week one Texas. Ohio State two of the top
teams in the country, and their offense was pretty bad.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
It was terrible.
Speaker 6 (43:04):
Like a lot was made about Arch I get it,
but their offense is terrible. And then they really haven't
played anybody since they play Grambling in Ohio. So I'm
going to actually go Washington here thinking that I don't
know if Ohio State has it figured out. I don't
know if their offense is all figured out. There are
some years that they don't do well offensively, and one
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of the years was comm McCord a couple of years ago.
So is Julian sanm going to be a common coord
or is he going to be one of the better
Ohio State quarterbacks like a CJ. Stroud or Justin Fields
That that is a question for me, and the fact
that he has to go on the road to try
and figure it out. Against Washington. I think this is
a game where they kind of struggle again a little bit,
and I'll go Washington. I actually think Ohio State is
(43:48):
a bit on upset alert.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
In this one. Michael, I agree with John. In college football,
we have to remember we never do this a lot.
There are upsets, like every week the top teams don't
all win, and by one hundred, you're a top ten
team lose well last year, I think, And again I
don't know a lot about Washington. I agree with everything
John said about Ohio State. They may turn out to
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be a wonderful team at some point. They may be
a wonderful team today, but Washington is not the easiest
place to go to.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Those people.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
They come up the river and the boats, and I
think that's going to be a tough assignment for And
it would not shock me if Washington won the game.
But I'll see Ohio State wins it, but maybe not
my double. Washington is a good program quite a while.
That's where the Bors came from, right.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Years ago.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
Yeah, I mean you can go back decades. Yeah, Don
James had a great program. So this is a huge
deal for a washing.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
To get Ohio State in their stadium.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Yeah yeah, I mean Ohio State is one of the
five biggest names in college absolutely some order, right historically,
So that's a that's a big name to get.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
So that's a huge deal for them. Now that they're
in the Big Ten, they'll get them what I somewhat
regular basis, uh. Having said all that, who'd you take?
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Kyle?
Speaker 3 (45:04):
He took a high, I took a Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
I'm gonna take the Buckeyes because I know nothing about Washington,
but certainly Mike and Jock could easily be right take.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Indeed, Washington's plus the nine at the moment.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Also three thirty ESPN Texas A and M minus six
and a half at home against Auburn, which absolutely got shafted.
Last I got a googlee for you in that game
at Oklahoma for those AM and Oklahoma is now their
quarterback is gonna be out for a moment to John
material out. Texas A and M the only team in
the country that scored forty or more in every game
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that they've played. So what is the over under that game?
People taking? I might take the over fifty. I'm over
all right, that's my bet. Mike is over fifty two, John.
Speaker 6 (45:51):
Yeah, I might go Texas A and M. It's not
like Auburn played bad last week. They played pretty good, considering.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
A couple of calls strange right lost my Yeah, John
Mattier is a really great player, and like Oklahoma is
a really good team.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
I get it.
Speaker 6 (46:06):
But to play back to back games like that and
now text A and M which offense? I think you're right,
like they're just like really good. Speak is going to
put forty on the board. I'll take my shop.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
I think A and M is gonna put up forty
on the boards.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
A and M.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Coach is really good. He wanted Duke for God's sake. Yeah,
I mean you know you're gonna ask me that, Mike, Mike. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
And the thing is, and you know you have he's
not He's not an offensive guy like all goes a
defensive game.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
You know you have an A and M. You got
a big time quarterback, you got it. The Bucos coming in.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
Well, what did I tell everybody last week about Texas Tech?
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Did I not scream Kyle?
Speaker 2 (46:44):
You did?
Speaker 3 (46:45):
John? You you were not intendant? You were here when
I screamed Texas tack.
Speaker 5 (46:48):
I heard it though from where I was Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
I mean I read that story. Did these boys spend
all the money?
Speaker 2 (46:53):
That's all that's how you went spend A and M
is paying Jimbo Fisher like sixty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Still think about that.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
They're paying a guy for like the next next seven
years who isn't going to coach a.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
Game for them. Uh so I will also take A
and M. Cow do you make a pick on this game?
Speaker 5 (47:12):
No, I'll right A and M though, But Auburn their
their schedule gets pretty easy after this. Then they played
Georgia in two weeks, and then they play Missoo right
after that. So God bless you Auburn.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Oh yeah, good luck.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
We won't talk about this game, but take Missoo laying
forty three against the U Masses.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Come on that game because you're taking They gave up
fifty six to Temple I don't know at home, so
basically U Mass is not going to score, so Missouri score.
They could score. I think if U Mass scores fourteen,
doesn't matter. Missouri could get down sixties. That's a big
ass though.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Papole By the way, you know what, speaking of boat
for Buela, the guy was at Pitt State I'm.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Not sure he's not the better of the two guys
of him and Allen.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
The running ability definitely adds like a great element this game. Yeah,
back in August, maybe enough to say that practice, I don't.
I'm not the draft guru guy, and you guy, they were.
There were some people saying, now it could be the
number one, and I'm like, I'm maybe it's me. Maybe
it's me. Okay, I don't see it. I don't say
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sixty five. I mean the classic six five drop back
two for well, you know what, if you get some
of the passages he throws, you go, if you get
with the right NFL coach, look at what the Chargers
are doing with a guy who knows what And we
said it when he got the job. What did we say, Dick,
(48:39):
he's gonna and all of a sudden their quarterback is
playing as good. If you took the guy in Jacksonville,
John that you you know, and put him with the
right Look at how about this? Think about this the.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Giants college games.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
I know you're right for the NFL. Okay, I might
forget college. I might forget that's what we're hoping. Now
you're like this three third and this is.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
This is a disgrace to human the human rask on
Peacock oh Indiana minus seven and a half at Iowa,
which is actually scoring points of the case when they
got rid of, they get rid of to coaches, Soca
Son's been gone for a couple of years, it's Michael Starlings.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
This is that Iowa. It is after a huge home
win by the Who's.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
I almost want to take the Hawkeyes, so I'm going
to pass because I hate taking teams of just dumb
sixty on somebody, but he could dumb.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
I'm not forty. I'm not taking a pass. I'm riding. Kurkis.
You probably run, man.
Speaker 8 (49:39):
This guy.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
The numbers he has put up, it's not just if
they win it, Tom, what's he over on your neck?
Speaker 8 (49:44):
Game?
Speaker 2 (49:44):
But it's the number the margins the moon of victory
in Indiana's game since he's been there, it's over.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
Unders only forty seven over.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Over.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
He can scored thirty some old by himself, right seven Iowa,
you know they could get two.
Speaker 4 (50:04):
Yeah, actually they're better, but they could still get two. John,
you guy thought on this one.
Speaker 6 (50:09):
So they Iowa does have a better offense. Gronowski FCS
transfer has been good. There were a lot of questions
of is he talented enough, is like the arm strength
good enough to do well in the FBS level, And
he's been good. A really great game against Rutgers. There's
no way they're stopping Indiana, at least to me, it
feels like right now, Indiana's quarterback Mendoza has over seventy
(50:34):
six percent completion percentage, fourteen touchdowns, zero pas.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
He's a favorite now that the guy from UH, Carson
Beck kind of moves up. I don't get this, but.
Speaker 6 (50:49):
Yeah, Indiana, really, I guess because there were there wasn't
also a lot of Heisman hype beforehand that it's not
getting there.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
But that's Heisman numbers.
Speaker 6 (50:57):
I mean, that is ridiculously good numbers in the Big
Ten in an offense that just lets quarterbacks be great.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
Indiana has had an Iceman winner. I'm just going to
go out on a limb. Probably not if Michael Pennix
couldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
That Cana People forget Michael Penix's first stop was yeah, happened?
Speaker 3 (51:17):
How about that he beat Penn State that year?
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Right did controversial Michael Penix was controversial two pointer at
the end of the beginning.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
Yeah, back when Michael Penix was a runner before his
knees went tap tapio the pandemic.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
When when I think when they play six games that
year or something, Kyle, you're you're the final thought on
this contest.
Speaker 5 (51:35):
Yeah, I mean, Indiana just slaughtered Illinois. But it doesn't
stop or start there. They've their offense has been explosive
the entire season. So I don't see any reason why
he would stop here. All right, Indiana as well.
Speaker 4 (51:47):
Any other games anybody wants to chat about before we
get to the break that's on there that we haven't
talked about.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
Question, Yeah, let me to expect this answer. So, why
is Indiana only six and a half? Seven and a
half seven and a half?
Speaker 3 (51:59):
Okay? And I know it's coarse the games in Iowa they're.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
On the road, and that they're looked at the looked
at his Indiana, whether it's that and Kirk Farrence.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
Has looked at us a guy who's right at home
and keeps the score down.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
But I'm listening to you guys, and I'm like, and
I'm thinking, my god, it's like it seems so like
how can you not take it?
Speaker 4 (52:17):
Yes, I think Indiana has better players clearly. Look Kirk
Farrence's he's going to be in a college football Hall
of Fame someday and he should be.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
But I mean they can't. He hasn't had an original
thought in two decades.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
I mean, come on, I've just seen too many times
in my life this spot where some team goes out.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
And puts up one hundred. But the fact that doing
I know, No, I get it.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
If that was a one off, Mike, I would agree
with you, but no, I know they're pulverizing people. And
look the only two games they they they lost and
Ohio State last year, and that Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
K's are not bad?
Speaker 9 (52:51):
Can they?
Speaker 2 (52:52):
I don't know what their scheduled. Can they be unbeaten
when they come to Pastate? That's not too far off.
I think that game's in October. I could be wrong.
Speaker 3 (53:00):
October is next Saturday?
Speaker 5 (53:01):
Yeah, well like mid October. It's November eighth, okay. Did
they have anybody good before?
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Then?
Speaker 3 (53:07):
It's the week after Ohio State.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
Indiana?
Speaker 3 (53:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Did they get anybody good before Pastate? Well they have Oregon,
that's good. Where's that Oregon?
Speaker 3 (53:19):
Okay? And then after that?
Speaker 2 (53:21):
No? Okay, So they could be one loss coming to
Pass State after pastate's coming off Ohio State, that could
be interesting.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Did Penn State beat him pretty goodlast year?
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Did they go away? I thought they played Indiana. Maybe
they lost two games at Metre Dame at Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (53:39):
Oh the Notre Dame game was the one that they
kind of lost by a fair amount, lost by two touchdowns.
It wasn't really that close. They were kind of just
overmatched physically at the game. Uh And at Ohio State,
they hung in that game for a while, just weren't
good enough.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
That's like what John says, though Ohio State lets a
lot of teams hang in for reasons like that. I
don't quite get now. They didn't the playoff because they
just went out and smoked. But still they lost to
Michigan right before getting into the playoffs. And it just yeah,
for some reason. Thing and it really was it ever
happened to them, It really was.
Speaker 7 (54:12):
It was.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
It woke up, It woke up their off a game.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
I felt sorry for Oregon, I really did. I'm like,
you got no chance, that's not like you feeling when
they when they when they little past and a wide
receiver and he went like SI was immediately has no
shot to over take.
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Speaker 3 (57:31):
It does not look good for the boys in red,
white and blue. And here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
People, and you and I last week both said we
would lean to well. You were more heavily than me
because of the price. The euros were plus one fifty.
The Road team has lost the last five and they
have not really been closed. This European team bought back
eleven or twelve guys, which annihilated THEA and the twelfth
guy is a twin of the guy who was on
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the team. But anyway, but you know you Americans head
Scott he and Scott He's been the best player in
the world for last whatever.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
It's been brutal.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
The Europeans came in with a plan, not not saying
but apparently Luke Donald who.
Speaker 3 (58:08):
Was the captain.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
Usually don't beat the captain twice in a row, but
they say, hey, Luke, we want to try to win
over there. He had a plan, he had his and
you have these great Perrys that they have. I mean,
Rory was the cleanup hitter, John Rown was the leadoff hitter,
and you put Tommy Fleetwood in who's been playing great yep.
And anyway, they they kind of did well yesterday and
they're doing well so far this morning.
Speaker 3 (58:31):
And it just looks like yeah for the people that
are not following it.
Speaker 4 (58:35):
So the the Euros won yesterday live and a half
to two and a half, two and a half.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Today there's four matches up three to one. Yeah, Mcalwright
fleet we are up four up through twice. They're not
gonna lose.
Speaker 4 (58:47):
Des Chambeau and Young are the only Americans that had
They're three up through twelve, hating around one up of
our camp. Yeh shop late through ten Mcatyron Hobblin two
up over Henley and Scheffler.
Speaker 2 (59:00):
Historically, when you when you're two up after like nine holes,
it's very hard for you to losee.
Speaker 3 (59:06):
It happens, but maybe you could get it. Yeah, heap
it at this point.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
But if the US goes to to today let's say,
just for sake, mergument, at this point, that doesn't really
help you too much.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Right, and again there's a what's it called this afternoon Mike, Uh,
it's the better ball, So both guys play their own ball.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
You take the best score, take the best score on
h Hall and then tomorrow all twelve players play. And
historically the Americans have done better in the singles, not
all the time, but they because they had more deeper team.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
I don't know anymore.
Speaker 2 (59:36):
If the US is if the US better be within
two at the end of the day to have a chance. Yeah,
this is a great betting opportunity. I mean, we talked
about it last week.
Speaker 4 (59:45):
My point is the reason the number was the number
is because the road teams don't win.
Speaker 3 (59:49):
The road teams don't win.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
But you gotta look at it, all, right, who are
the actual teams that are playing in this event. And
when you looked at the Euros and you looked at
the US, and I'm a million miles from and anything
like a golf expert, but.
Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
They just had way better players. And you're getting plus
one fifty and they and a tie, they win.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Yeah, they retain it if the and the thing is
it was coming to Beth Page, New York can be nuts,
you know, we all, but the crowd never got into it.
The only time the crowd really got into it was
at the beginning of the afternoon yesterday because your Americans
looked like they were making a.
Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Little maybe turn and then the Europeans just said, all right.
Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
So just to reiterate, so the four ball is everybody
plays their own ball, and then the four some best ball.
Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
No, no, yeah, yeah, no, no, today is today. Listen.
Today is Today's an alternate shot.
Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
So Rom hits a shot, then his partner hits the
next shot, then Rom hits the next shot after that
today afternoon, as you play your ball, I play my ball.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
You make a three, I make a four. We take
your three. Gotcha.
Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
That's how that's the deal. And for the people that
I might just explain this to me, Rory mcelriy. Assume
drove was in the hole one. Because he can drive
the green, then that means he.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Will take all the odd holes to drive, and Fleet
will to take the even holes. So what they do
a lot of times is they'll sit there and say, Okay,
where are the par threes? Where are the holes where
we need to drive? But the first hole that this
course was so right you can you can almost drive it.
Oh God, almost drove it exactly. I don't know where
Roy's Rory's drive went today, but that's it was left.
(01:01:26):
That's the only hole they've lost. It was left, Okay,
all right? Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
Tomorrow, NFL nine thirty Dublin, Dublin, Minnesota. This was one
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bed Parks, Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz want to know for
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getting two and a half in Dublin.
Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
Sorry, Jet, we had to start with some gross I
mean in Minnesota. Score two defensive touchdowns again.
Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
That will help.
Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
That would be great. They've won the last two years
over there, by the way.
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
I don't know who they played, but Minnesota has had
success and over there, well, wherever they played.
Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
I don't know the question.
Speaker 6 (01:02:09):
Carson Wentz again had there were two defensive touchdowns scored,
and all anybody is talking about is a quarterback that
was like already up by thirty by the play.
Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Okay, he played five. Turn the ball. Question.
Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
So I have heard today, I've heard all throughout the week.
If J J McCarthy is healthy, do you start Carson Wentz?
Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
You start JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
We know what Carson Wentz stick, but JJ Wentz awful.
I understand everything you're saying, John, But if Carson starts
three games, let's just say for sake, argument wins all
three and the Vikings because the coach can coach and
the defense and JJ has not looked good except for
one quarter this year.
Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
I'm shot. I'm just playing Devil's advocate, Majrson. Wentz hasn't
looked good since like twenty What.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
If he plays Sam Donald didn't look good for his
whole life. So what happened if Carson Wentz plays well
and they win? If we're not doing what if Andy
Away can Pittsburgh score against Minnesota's defense?
Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Yeah, that's the biggest problem. That's the part I have
no idea take.
Speaker 6 (01:03:09):
But also and a half would you rather have Carson
Wentz or Aaron Rodgers and Pittsburgh if they not have
Carson the two and a half taking an exactly iron
there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Is you know much money? How much money they spent
the shore defense? Brian flor is best coordinator, and he's
very good. He's he's up there. But hate coach the
better hate coaches. What do you think?
Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
I don't think this game was gonna get us all
fired up today. Unreal, This guy's all of a sudden good.
Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
To answer the.
Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
Question, you got to go back to McCarthy. He had
one good quarter, but he's only played two games.
Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
They're back in the whole future. You guys are not warm.
But again, forget the one.
Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
You're darn right, I'm not wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Talk to us.
Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
If they went to Pittsburgh's offense is discussed.
Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
I hate it.
Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
I'd rather watch paint dry Minnesota their defense. Brian Flores
is gonna have a recipe to to continue over here.
Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
You see the cops stop him, didn't he was doing
something something on his computer?
Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
You have to cold the story up but he got
detained at the Dublin Scotti Scheffler, he got, he got.
Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
I will say give me Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (01:04:27):
Pittsburgh is doing this very Mike Tomlin thing where they're
winning games.
Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
That's fine.
Speaker 6 (01:04:32):
They they were out gained and out played against the Jets.
They were out gained, out played against the Mike tom
So it's just a weird thing. And that's the one
thing I I kind of give me Minnesota. I just
like their defense.
Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
I'll take Minnesota to just on the coaching a learn.
Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
Look, Mike, you imagine going over the place William and Meredith,
Mike Tomlin distinguished.
Speaker 9 (01:04:54):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
His picture is up.
Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
We went to this bar when we were down there
at police His picture is up on the wall. The'ver
been to Walliamsburg, Virginia. It's one of the great town.
Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
They'll be there next month, very cool, the great college town.
Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
On my golf trip.
Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
He's gonna take the Colonial Park, yorktown one a year,
so it feels like a month. Well, you're never here,
so how would you know. Yeah, there's a good point,
but you're you're gonna be Are you gonna be a
regular here?
Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Now?
Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
John, for the rest of the we're gonna see you
during this. Oh yeah, I love this.
Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Uh all right, dol A Chargers minus six against Jackson
Jackson Dark and the n Y Giants at the Meadowlands.
Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Uh, Mike, I know you've always been a big Jackson
Dark fan.
Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
But Jackson apparently people think he can be decent. Okay,
the coach already ruined one quarterback, but that's okay. He
won Coach of the Year and they made the playoffs.
So again, the Eagles were gonna hide. Everybody thought the
Eagle should have hired that guy. That this is not
a good spot for Jackson Dark. I think next week
they play somebody bad Orleans. Okay, I think I think
(01:06:01):
that's right, But somebody or Tennessee one of those. The
Chargers are good, their defense is good, their quarterback is good,
and you're throwing this guy into this spot. I could
not bet the Giants, so I'm on that premiseegu. I
hate laying six on the road in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
That's bad. And is this a one o'clock game for
a West Coast team? That's bad? All right, But I
can't bet the Giants. That's bad. I'll take the Chargers Giant.
Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
Yeah, I'll take the Chargers and justin Herbert's playing unbelievable football.
That throw he had last week crazy, He curved it
over a defender right in his face and somehow got
it to Keenan Allen on an absolute rope.
Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
One of the greatest throws I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
To be honest with you, people wonder why Jim Harbaugh
chose the Chargers over the Herb dude, And by the way,
he can coach. Whatever you think of him, he can coach,
absolutely can coach.
Speaker 6 (01:06:56):
And the Chargers defense is good too. Yeah, look, helps
had that Jackson Dart is playing over Russell Wilson. That is,
it's the better quarterback at this point. Russell Wilson's very bad,
even though he had four and fifty yards.
Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
But it's gonna be talking, Kyle, are you gonna Are
you gonna do it? Are you gonna do it? Are
you gonna make this? You know? Yes?
Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
And I know Herbert's been really good this year. I
still would like to see more from the Chargers offense.
I think the running game has a lot of work
to do, and then that'll only help Herbert and Thempton. Yeah, exactly, so,
I think that could be a struggle down the road.
But the Giants stink. This is a bit spot for
Jackson Dark.
Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
I mean, by the way, since we're on the Giant
versus here's a franchise, think about this. Now, let go
of Jones. Okay, he's now on a team with a coach.
I'm not saying he's Mahomes, but he's playing well.
Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Right, Well, they let go.
Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
This is a franchise that has let a quarterback go
that now it doesn't have a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
Maybe Jackson Dart will turn out to be that quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Who's playing for a three note team and a running
back who had an historic season and is now playing
for team that won nineteen to twenty.
Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
And that is wrong with the Giants. And they've been
in the playoffs like three times since like two eleven.
It's just a clown show up there, no question. But
Ta Kwon Barkley was the problem. Yeah, yeah, exactly, the
sign him. They didn't want to pay yet, but they
paid Jones all right.
Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
Before we get to the next game, I got to
ask everybody a question. So we actually lost about.
Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Twenty people in my uh last week because of green back.
Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
That's right, that was the reason why I wanted Tampa
to lose last week to a lot of people up.
Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
Sure, so I've taken Denver, Baltimore in Seattle. Everybody is
gonna that hasn't already taken Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
It's gonna take him this week. I took the same
three as you did too. Yeah, so they're fifteen and
a half. So my only question is this, if you
didn't take Buffalo, go with the Wheelers.
Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
No, I mean obviously I'm not gonna take New Orleans.
But can I if I don't take Buffalo, can I
sit there and root? Does New Orleans have any chance
at all? Okay, that's kind of what I think. It's
a game at Buffalo. No, Yeah, in New Orleans. Spencer
Ratlers still, well.
Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Who would be your second? Who would be?
Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
I mean there are Chargers. Could you take Detroit minus
eight and a half? And I'm against Cleveland? Yeah yeah,
and Cleveland just want a big game.
Speaker 6 (01:09:23):
Trot's takeable, but don fen Still it's pretty good without
Ben Johnson is a very good I would only do this.
Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Look, I'm almost certainly gonna take Buffalo with the like
everybody else, But you could save them, yeah right, I
could save them for later.
Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
But on the and and some people like fifteen people
took Buffalo before, so if there are people that aren't
going to be able to take that this week.
Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
But just look, if I thought New.
Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Orleans said any chance I would take Detroit on the
theory that, hey, god, New Orleans wins.
Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
I just eliminated eighty percent of the poll.
Speaker 5 (01:09:53):
That's what the survivor polls. He can't get too uh
fancy with George GREI.
Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel. By the time
somebody was favorite by fifteen and a half, ever.
Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Anybody, Yeah, that's a lot. That's a big note.
Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Here's what's great about about the way analysts all looking
So this week now they're talking about like who's who
can challenge the Eagles like in the NFC, and they're
mentioning Detroit. They mentioned green No, that was what was
So people are talking Detroit. Oh, they had him ranked
and green Bay. I'm like, didn't Green Bay beat Detroit like.
Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
By like so they had it? Yes, did they lay
an egg last week? Absolutely? But this league is so
weak to weak it is almost like and you know
who isn't week the week the Eagles. They just go
out and play bording football and win.
Speaker 6 (01:10:42):
But Eagles are kind of built like this last year
where it was more of their defense and not their
offense winning them games. And Green Bay still has that
great defense. So as long as they have that like
offensive offensive will need to figure it out. Made the
stupidest throw ever in the history of the planet.
Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
Dumber than it Hurts.
Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
But he's better than Hurts. People will tell you he's
better than Hurts. You know what, he may be better
than Hurts someday. He's not better than Jalalen Hurts right now,
no way, all right here it is, Oh, don't do it?
Two zero to three squado. Okay, Houston minus six and
a half versus former Houston.
Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Aka, I got to bet Tennessee seven under thirty eight
and a half. They don't. Both these offenses stink.
Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
They both these offenses stak, especially the Titans.
Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
You know, I'm gonna do under the thirty seven. That's
thirty eighty eight it is.
Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
I'm gonna take Tennessee here to cover seven because Houston
has just lost C. J. Stroud.
Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
They don't protect them horrible, horrible. Uh yeah, that's probably
the way.
Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
I will give me the plus seven and a dumpster
fire like twenty to seventeen.
Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
This could be under This could be the reincarnation of
the legendary game from twenty years ago at State College.
Six was four games Penn State four. How did I'll say,
how did Houston? I'll thank Houston six? How did Houston go?
And I understand that injuries last year go from being
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that team from two years ago it was.
Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Hamber to charge? But the game?
Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
How can they be this?
Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
They are missing Joe all of a sudden, can't coach well?
Their problemise their offense. They can't score terrible, just can't.
Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
It is just it's a cautionary tale. Protect your quarterback
at all costs because right now, even even Cincinnati has
gotten to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
I get it.
Speaker 6 (01:12:31):
And Joe Burrow has been great and he hasn't been
healthy in recent years because his offensive line stinks.
Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
All right, So tell me protect your quarterback. Tell me
what's going on with this game? I have here early
in the week Washington minus two and a half in Atlanta.
Now Atlanta's the two point quarterbacks not playing, So it's
still no. Jayden's out Terry McLaren's out there.
Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
McLaren, that's okay, there's four and a half points. But Atlanta,
I agree with your point. Atlanta should be given two
and a half.
Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
Yeah, Atlanta thirty Carol, Michael Penick state, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (01:13:05):
Kirk Cousins time?
Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
He got it last week? He did Penick starting this week.
Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
I'll tell you what, Michael, Michael Pennick's better play well
in that game because they they can't lose that game.
Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
If Jaydon Daniels isn't playing. It was coming into the year.
Speaker 6 (01:13:21):
It was just like Michael, it's Michael Penix's team and
he's great.
Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
And why do you think Atlanta intrigued?
Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
But that was awful last week? That was you made
Bryce Young look decent? Uh, Atlanta. Yeah, I've done Atlanta
after all that. Who's the who's starting quarterback for Washington?
Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
He's been he has been good with Washington. But yeah,
I'm taking Washington. I'm taking Washington. Is not Sonny Jurgis,
you know what, I'd rather.
Speaker 5 (01:14:05):
Not taking this whatever they call Jeremy McNichols in the backfield.
Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
I took a t l last week. Very disappointing.
Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
I'll try him again and then if they don't win,
the gotta again Washington might who cares Detroit. Look, I
love how they coached, I loved how they played like that.
I loved everything. Yeah, everybody just conceded the game to
Bot with your team.
Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
Frustrating, very irritating. Uh, Detroit minus eight and a half
at home. Now it's up to ten. I can't play Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Against Clevelandland can't score.
Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Detroit can't score. Although Cleveland's rush defense is like the
greatest rush defense in the NFL. It's unreal. Nobody can
run at all.
Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
But can't deshol Watson. Is he ready to suit up yet? Today?
Can they get him?
Speaker 6 (01:14:57):
He stinks any worst move in history of any entice
ever ever, it really is.
Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
It's awful. It's pretty bad thought on this. I would.
I can't go to one side.
Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
So if I bet, I gotta go to Detroit Detroit
minus ten, that line will be twelve by tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
They're going to continue to continue Detroit alright.
Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
I don't know if Cleveland will score a point in
this game. Give me Detroit not a single point, not
a single point. So the thing about Ben Johnson moving
on is I get it very good outfensive. Mine scheme
is very good and seems like a good coach. Other
guys can coach, other guys can coach. They have a
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lot of talent. I mean they are loaded still.
Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
They have talent.
Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Ever, people don't understand they have more talent than the Eagles. Yes,
but they have Eagles and then.
Speaker 6 (01:15:49):
They want Detroit had about eleven players starting players hurt
on defense last year.
Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
This team is loaded still. So yeah, I like Detroit
a lot. And they got dumped by green Bay and
one it.
Speaker 6 (01:16:00):
Was just and it's just credit the Green Bay's defense
for being that good. And like that's why green Bay
is a championship caliber team because their defense is that good.
Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
But Detroit is loaded on offense absolutely well, the scurtis
Cleveland's defense is and it's terrific. You could not win
in the NFL with fifty seven year old quarterbacks and
no offense at all.
Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
You'll take Detroit, guter, Detroit's two running backs, great, amazing
offensive line.
Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
I mean then Joel.
Speaker 5 (01:16:23):
Already war ball out Mighty Dylan Gabriel again in this
game better.
Speaker 6 (01:16:28):
I just Joe Flacco was turning over the ball and
they got away with it. To last week, Joe Blacko
had another turnover he is turning over the ball at
an alarming rate for a.
Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Two years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
But they made the playoffs, right, and so everybody forgets
about it.
Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
It's it's the playoff game. He threw like three picks.
Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
Couple more one o'clock games we've talked about him. Let's
get to the spread.
Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Buffalo minus fifteen and a half over halpless New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
Okay, in the first two home games, I think went
to Seattle. I mean the game was over in the
first quarter.
Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
That was the easiest paed week.
Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
I was stealing money, Colin, I had that. I looked
at the first scores. They have two touchdowns of this game,
so turn it off. I never saw one play. I
had no interest in it after that.
Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Actually, you're taking Buffalo giving the points, Well, I wouldn't take.
Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
Callen Moore is in for a long season, John, Ye,
Buffalo might not care this week.
Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
I mean, I don't know how many wins Sus Spencer
Rattler have as the starter. None. Yeah, let's let's keep
it that way, Tyler. So we're gonna give them fifteen? Yeah? Probably?
Speaker 5 (01:17:33):
Uh, Kyle, you're outright plus nine hundred money line saint.
Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
That's all they're getting on the money line.
Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
Yeah, that's not a lot of No.
Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
No, Buffalo Temple might be plus nine hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
You are you are you gonna You're gonna take Buffalo
and the survivor do the obvious?
Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Yeah, I think I have to.
Speaker 4 (01:17:51):
Yeah, I haven't looked at the rest of their schedule.
Obviously they're never gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (01:17:54):
They have an easy but they have an easy schedule
this year too, So there's gonna be other options at
at home. But I'm not gonna try and get fancy
like this.
Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be other times to get
Detroit at home. But again, if I thought New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Had even the remotest chance, I would love to do
it because I could get rid of so many people
in this pool.
Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
But I don't see it at all.
Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
Last one o'clock game, New England minus five and a
half now from four and a half at home against Carolina.
Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
Yeah, New England gave the game away last week. We
had a million turno.
Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
You know Carolina's last six quarters, they've outscored like their opponents,
like forty seven or eight.
Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Team with the great coaching staff.
Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Why should New England be favored by a touchdown. They're
not oh five and a half. Yeah, oh it's down, Okay,
that was up four and a half. I'm not in
love with Carolina, but New England i'd like for abel,
I think, yeah, but I would have to lean toward
either don't bet it or lean towards the Carolina chance.
Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Yeah, I'm going with New England. They played your Drake
and Mega you like it? Yeah? I like he's good.
Speaker 6 (01:18:57):
He's a better quarterback in this matchup for sure. There's
not a lot to love about New England yet. Their
leading rusher, by the way, is Drake May with just
eighty seven yards. I think, oh yeah, kids, oh yeah,
So it's not great in New England. They have two
good running backs to Trevion Henderson needs to get involved
a lot more. But Bryce Young didn't play all that
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well last week.
Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
That's fine. It was more Atlanta was just terrible. That's
why I probably I wouldn't bet the game.
Speaker 6 (01:19:26):
Yeah, I'm going to England, but it's a tough bet
to that.
Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
I I got no feel for this game, Kyle, Yeah,
I hate this game.
Speaker 5 (01:19:33):
I'm gonna lean New England just because again, thirty and
nothing last week and Bryce Young is still through for
like one hundred and thirty yards.
Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Real, real, quick question before we go to our last break,
who finishes second in the AFC East?
Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Somebody please tell them?
Speaker 5 (01:19:47):
I don't know because New England the Dolphins as Miami's
a dumpster fight.
Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
And they don't think Buffalo's gonna be the number one seed. No, please,
you gotta go through Buffalo.
Speaker 5 (01:19:57):
I think McDaniels is fired in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
You might be right. It's gone. It's getting that.
Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
It's been screaming ever since week one.
Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
What will be the We have two Monday night games
this week.
Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
ESPN's gotta be going crazy, Miami and home against the
Jets Denver and home against the Bengal.
Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Field is back right, No, Joe Burrow, the fields is playing.
I like Miami neck game. Actually, well we'll get to that. Yeah,
are we gonna get to that? Here we are after
the break.
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Four oh five. This line surprises me a little bit.
Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
San Francisco started at four and a half another three
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Per John, You're our Jacksonville expert.
Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
What's going on?
Speaker 6 (01:23:51):
Yeah, they're just not getting connected with Brian Thomas Junior
and Trevor Lawrence. That is probably the biggest thing happening
is they're not getting downfield awesome. Receivers are just dropping
everything too.
Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (01:24:00):
It's not really good offense when you can't catch the football.
Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
So I'm I'm gonna take San Francisco here. But I
do think.
Speaker 6 (01:24:12):
Well two of them were off of receivers hands or
at least Brian Thomas Jr. Cowering and not wanting to
catch a football and Trash. I think he's right there.
There are bouts of inaccuracy that are definitely a concern,
but for the most part, it seems to be really
clicking well with Liam Cohanes offense. Just receivers got to
play better. That's really the big thing there. But it's
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not that way right now. And San Francisco has their
quarterback back. I'll go forty nine ers. God, yeah, I
I just can't lean Jacksonville here. I don't like the
way they've been playing. I don't like I don't like
the way Trevor Lawrence has been playing.
Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
To be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (01:24:50):
I know there there's been some wide receiver foes, but he.
Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
Catched the football.
Speaker 5 (01:24:54):
Catch the football. But he's also made He's also made
some terrible throws. He's made some terrible throws. Catch the
and what you're we in now, we're still making excuses.
Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
I will take that's every quarterback in the league. John
He catch the football. I mean there's guys really bad
in Jackson. That's fine, but I mean at.
Speaker 5 (01:25:09):
Some point, Sancisco for you, San Francisco Trevers on his
third head.
Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
I don't care about this game, but I keep people
keep telling me how good the NFC West is. Okay,
there's one good team and then I like the forty
nine ers generally, but they're.
Speaker 6 (01:25:24):
Not that good.
Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
They're injured, they're banging up. Seattle's okay. The Cardinals are
the Cardinals. Do you know who the Cardinal quarterback Murray is?
You know who he is, Trey Young.
Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
They're the same player. Yeah, you know what his record is.
He's thirty eight and forty.
Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Seven in his NFL. Now that's not all his fault.
The Cardinals are a bad franchise. I get it, but
I just keep sicking people telling me how.
Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
Good these guys. Are you have a pick of this
contest or not? Nick, I'll take you know what, just
to make John feel good, I'll take Jacksonville. I'll take
San Francisco giving three a m or whatever the number.
Speaker 6 (01:25:55):
Yeah, when you're dropping your passes in the red zone,
that it's just it's not gonna work. It can't score,
it's not gonna win.
Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
Yea fascinating four oh five game Sofi Stadium, uh, the
site of the former Hollywood Park in Inglewood, California.
Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
L A Rams minus what do we have?
Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
Three three and a half against the most surprising team
in the NFL Colts, the team that the team that
shall not be named the Mayflowers from the capital city
of Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
Michael's start with you Rams. Really good, Indianapolis playing great.
Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Since we're going to do this fast, I'll take the charge.
I'll take the Rams. Bounce back, no bounce back. And
I like the Colts. I mean I they're playing well,
playing very well.
Speaker 6 (01:26:39):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (01:26:39):
I think, uh yeah, I think the Rams maybe bring
Indy back to earth a little bit here. Uh After
that brutal loss, I still think the Rams are a
legitimate threat in the NFC. Regardless of Davante Adams status.
I'll take the Rams.
Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
But the thing is will they like will that loss
last week screw them up? It could, yeah, who that
was pretty virtal. That was about as bad an l
as you can have. Doesn't normally matter in the presence.
Speaker 6 (01:27:05):
I think I think they're poisoned enough with Stafford on
offense to take it over. John I'm going to take
the Rams. And it's really not anything offensively for them.
It's just their defensive line is really good and gave
Eagles a lot of problems in the first half. So
if they can get some pressure on Daniel Jones, I
think if you still pressure them, you can still get
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some maybe erratic play out of him. It's been pretty
comfortable for the most part for him. But if you
can get him a little bit rattled, a little bit
of radic, I think they can. Not to say that
the Colts will play well. I think they are a
really good football team. They run the ball extreamly well.
Johnathan Taylor is one of the best running backs in
the league still. Shane Stichen's a really good offensive coordinator.
So everything I like in Indie. So it's nothing against it,
it's just I think This is a really good matchup
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for the Rams considering their defensive line and trying to
get Daniel Jones animous.
Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
I just I can't pick that set. So one of
these teams is gonna be one in three. Lates is
the Lake CBS game. Ravens minus two and a half
at Chiefs now or never.
Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Yeah, I don't. The Chiefs offense is awful, Chiefs defense
are really good. The one guy's back, the one wide receiver,
I think he's back.
Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Ravens offense really good, Ravens defense very average.
Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Mike, Yeah, the same thing I said before they played Theagles.
Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
If you think, if you believe in Andy and Mahomes,
Mahomes has nothing around him.
Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
Again, now he's get the wide one receive.
Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
If the Ravens can't win this game and they never,
you know there, I think Lamar is one in five
against the Chiefs and the Buffaloes or something like, there's
some goofy number. I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Ravens
against my better judgment, because they never do this.
Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
I'm gonna take the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
My My theory on this game is I want to
take the team that I know can score that's ball.
Who would that be?
Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Yeah, I mean Kansas City. Just the offense is bad.
It's just if the I know what his game is
twenty seventeen. The Chiefs are gonna win.
Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Yeah, that's their game for sure. I'll take Baltimore, but
with a lot of reservations.
Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Yes, I.
Speaker 4 (01:29:08):
I did not like how they played against Detroit. Buffalo
is a fluke. That didn't bother me so much. I
thought Detroit just beat him up. And the running back
fumbles it once every week.
Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
Miss is killing. Oh, it's brute. It's gotta be driving
Derrick Henry crazy too.
Speaker 6 (01:29:23):
John Lamar Jackson is the best quarterback in the league
right now. I get the Josh Allen thing. I get it,
I get it, I get it. Lamar Jackson is playing
on a different planet, in a different in a in
a much better way than I think any quarterback has
ever played, in the most complete way, doing it running
and passing.
Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
Hold on, phenop.
Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Can we slow down a second. You just said better
than any quarterback has ever played?
Speaker 9 (01:29:45):
Is that what you just said?
Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
I I truly think the way Lamar Jackson is playing
right now.
Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Hell, you're John John Brady, John Joe Joe Montana. Did
you ever see Joe Montana? John John calm down, I
calm down.
Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
I know, I know, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (01:29:59):
What's a record like Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback
in this game. Patrick Mahomes might be one of the
greatest quarterbacks, best quarterbacks of all time, I get it.
But in terms of play and the level play he's
playing right now, Lamar Jackson, dating back the last season.
Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
Is playing like I've never signed.
Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Where's the question I have for you? Why did he
look like a deer in the head? Like yeah, game, Oh,
definitely that you're running back from me. The ball doesn't help.
Speaker 6 (01:30:24):
Let me know.
Speaker 5 (01:30:24):
When a title game and against Buffalo that was a
big problem to he played out so and the thing is,
and I love him too, but it's just the number.
The numbers are insane. The way he's playing is insane.
I've never seen anything like it. I think he plays
really well against Bags and he finally gets a win
against him fair.
Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
Enough because you can't blitz him, because if you blitzer,
your trouble.
Speaker 5 (01:30:47):
Mar Jackson's playing really good.
Speaker 6 (01:30:49):
I wouldn't say it's great, phenomenal, the greatest quarterback of
all Why.
Speaker 5 (01:30:53):
They only want a half point favorites against Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
Though Kansas City, Kansas City, the Eagles were well, if
this is the best quarterback play of all time, expect
them to be a lot better.
Speaker 5 (01:31:04):
I'm going Kansas City here because Baltimore just they're so
annoying to watch. They have these games rather tea. So
until they can find out how to close out a game.
And again, I don't know if it's Jackson. I know
it's Henry fumbling horror ball. We know what he's looked
like in the playoffs. Something's wrong there.
Speaker 6 (01:31:23):
Yeah, your defensive big games, giving up forty one to
thirty eight points.
Speaker 5 (01:31:25):
Yeah, and this is this is one of those games
where it's do or die. I know it's early in
the season, but this is a big early season game.
Until they prove me they can shut the door on
a team like this, I'm gonna go with Kansas City
and the home doll.
Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
The Ravens two years ago had the best team in
football by like. Their defense was unbelievably good, their offense
was really really.
Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
Good, and they gagged it up against Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Yeah, and to me, they've just their defense hasn't been
remotely the same since then.
Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
I'm taking the Ravens a second score, but I got
no faith in that squad at all.
Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
I won't want to be the Ravens if they're wont
if they lose this game, because then it's gonna.
Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
Be the same questions they've been asked for five years now.
I would definitely start asking some questions about John Harbor. Well,
that's fine, but it's I've been saying that since they
lost in the title game.
Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
Last of the four o'clock games. We're in Las Vegas,
not the capital of Nevada. Who knows the capital of Nevada?
Here an incorrect? No, no, no, no, Carson City, thank you?
Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Las incorrect? Las Vegas minus one and a half early
now minus one. I got this one against the Bears,
who just annihilated the because the Cowboys sucked the defense.
I got this one, Mike Scott, Vegas, Vegas minus the
Vegas mine.
Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
It's a perfect scenario.
Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
Did Chicago look good against a horrible defense that the
Giants quarterback through for four fifty on?
Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
This is a This is a peak peak Carrol game.
This is a peak Carroll game. By the way, Caleb
Williams looked okay because he's getting coach. How about uh?
I am gonna ride the high the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 5 (01:33:04):
I know it's probably against my better judgment here, but
I like the way the Caleb Williams has been playing.
Gino Smith has been driving me nuts with the turnovers.
They just can't seem to get Ashton Gent going.
Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
I I do.
Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
I like the Bears here.
Speaker 5 (01:33:18):
I think Vegas has some some kings to figure out.
I think the Bears and Ben Johnson are kind of
falling into place a little a little bit earlier than
I thought. So I'm gonna ride that.
Speaker 6 (01:33:29):
John without a running game. I I just don't like
the Raiders offense at all. They they aren't really loaded
at receiver either. Their lines either offensive line run blocking
is awful. I think Ashon Gent's first initial contact with
the player, it's awful. So, I mean, if you can't
(01:33:51):
get the running game going, they don't have the receivers
to make up for it. And Gino Smith works best
off of play action and he can't. You can't do
that if you don't run the ball. So I think, yeah,
there is there's a lot of learning about their offense.
Maybe they can get going against the bad Bears. Defense,
But I just don't see it with the way the
the offensive line is. So I'm actually gonna go Chicago.
Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
Yeah, all of Gent's rushing yards are after contact is
none freak cut.
Speaker 6 (01:34:15):
And when you see him get to that second level
where you see him in space, he is special.
Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
I can see it.
Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
But good lord, Tomorrow NBC, this could get.
Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
Yeah, you don't care slightly to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
They're gonna be going nuts at the Jonestone tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
When Micah Parsons has like seven sacks, wait for the
green Bay minus six.
Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
And a half? Is there a bet on neck? Can
you bet like Parsons sober? Yeah, that's a that's a prop. Absolutely,
the Parsons that just go out there and kill someone.
Speaker 4 (01:34:52):
Green Bay minus six and a half at Dallas, NBC
Sunday Night Football, Dallas with no CD, one of the
worst defenses in his green Bay coming off.
Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
A horrible marble.
Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Last has never lost in Dallas, like well, the last
time they went there in the playoffs, they were up
twenty eight nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
What they after like five minutes? After five minutes Jerry Jones.
Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
Look, he's getting exactly what he wants because his franchise
goes up in vat.
Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
He is the stupidest guy. GM.
Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
He did one good thing. He hired Jimmy and traded herschel.
Well that was Jimmy Johnson. But he hired Jimmy Johnson,
who who if he stayed there, probably would have won
a couple more Super Bowls at least. But anyway, for
the last thirty years he's been a moron, and he's
continually a moron. And yet he sits there and says, yeah,
but look at look at my So you know what
(01:35:43):
he got what he wants?
Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
Good for him? Uh give me the Packers. Uh, John,
that defense is.
Speaker 6 (01:35:51):
Allful, thank you, Jerry, Joe, a defense that could probably
maybe stop the pass. And he's.
Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
Yeah, but John, they got draft picks.
Speaker 6 (01:36:03):
So yeah, so you can draft a player like Micah Parsons. Yes, yeah, sure,
I'm going Green Bay, I think. And that's a lot
to lay on the road.
Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 5 (01:36:13):
It's a lot, you know, Outside of the whole Micah
Parsons situation, the worst thing that could have happened for
Dallas is Green Bay losing the Cleveland list. Oh gimme,
gimme green Bay. I think this could get ugly. I
hope it gets ugly. I know Dallas plays a little
bit better at home than on the road, but they
got hurt to pleat it.
Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
But Dallas missing your top.
Speaker 4 (01:36:32):
Dallas played well in Week one here, very competitive. The
Giants game is ridiculous. Yeah, I mean they they should
have lost. They got sixty three field goal right, Russell
Wilson throwing four like eight million, couple more fifty stop
and then last week total embarrassment in Chicago, unanimous screen
Bay forty seven Dallas two five.
Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
Uh, we gotta do it, guys.
Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
Monday Night football, Dolphins minus two and a hal Dolphins
minus three.
Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
Now Dolphins against the Jets. Yes, that's it. That's it, Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
That's one word over if they don't win this game,
if they lose to the Jets at home. What Kyle
said before, coach, Well, I heard that the Dolphins organization
isn't really as down on him as every everything else.
But it can't succeed if your wide receiver is going
to mouth off the after every game.
Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
No, Dolphins, it's the Jets. It fields back. Yes, I
think he's playing, and that's that worries me a little.
Speaker 5 (01:37:34):
But the Jets, Jets, I think Miami is Yeah. Plus
I think Miami is almost in dumpster fire man.
Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
It could be John Dolphins relegate, both of them.
Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
Just get.
Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
You guys, realize that Dick is not like like nine
of the game. So they're disgusting.
Speaker 6 (01:37:57):
It is actually pretty disgusting to be afraid of myamy.
I hate to be fair. I haven't liked me because
they have stunk.
Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
I haven't liked anything since.
Speaker 6 (01:38:05):
Indianapolis has looked like the best team in football, and
Buffalo is one of the best.
Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
Teams in football.
Speaker 6 (01:38:10):
So that's a really tough game. They lost New England.
They played well in that game. That's really weird special
team stuff, but I like it.
Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
Denver minus seven and a half at home ABC Cincinnati
two Monday Night.
Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
Member is a weird team. They are. They lost the
Chargers and should have won that game. And you're John,
you were not a bow Knicks fan.
Speaker 6 (01:38:31):
No, And I think he's looked pretty bad to start.
I think he's looked but they could have beat the
Chargers and you take the Bengals. No, Joe Burrow again
and again play horrible though?
Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
Did he?
Speaker 7 (01:38:42):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Who's who's there?
Speaker 5 (01:38:44):
Guy, Jake Brown?
Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
I'm I'm sorry, it's like me, Yeah, he's game Kapler.
Speaker 6 (01:38:51):
Serviceable, but he so he was serviceable last time he
came in, And I think a lot of it is
riding off of that, like, oh, he played well, won
some games.
Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
He's a bet Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
You're only hoping that they covered, which again, that's a
lot of times while you make the bet.
Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
If Denver loses this game, my god, yeah, hard has
played pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
I have a small opinion I will take. I will
take Cincinnati on the road, and I think it's gonna
be low scoring. I like that.
Speaker 5 (01:39:18):
I have no faith at all. Al go, what's they're
getting seven and a half? But what's you You can
bet the already three and forty three? What I was
gonna say, I think Jake Browning. I like Dick strategy.
I think Jake Browning serviceable. He's got good players around him.
If they can score a couple of touchdowns, take the
under forty three. I'm gonna take the picks in one
and a half like that can't happen. Now, it can't happen.
(01:39:42):
But again I I they have good players. I'm gonna
take the seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
The time we're doing it, we got five minutes left, alight, clappy,
you guys sat about it. Sean Philadelphia seventy six six
Ers expert on the other end of the line, the
head media day.
Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
Before the great rookie Jerem McCain hurt his hand fingers.
Speaker 8 (01:40:11):
Uco what.
Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
If ever will the black cloud be lifted over this crow?
Speaker 9 (01:40:20):
Certainly not anytime soon that uh, you know, we didn't
get any sort of answer for the Paul George for
the Joel mbiid injury side of things, outside of the
fact that they're doing some sort of Okay, it ain't happening,
that is what it seems so and especially McCain is
like one of like the you know, sources of good
positivity within the organization.
Speaker 8 (01:40:39):
We can't even have him right from the get go this.
Speaker 3 (01:40:41):
Year, No Quentin Grimes is still not signed with the squad.
Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
Is that correct?
Speaker 8 (01:40:45):
That is correct? And seemingly more unhappy.
Speaker 9 (01:40:47):
He's now starting to come out with one of these
feeling disrespected from Darryl Moore in the Sixers.
Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (01:40:52):
I mean the root of the issue is there's no market,
like there's no teams that have the cap space to
make an offer, So the Sixers are bidding against no one,
so I'm always looking at that as a chance to
trim the margins get him on a cheaper deal, but
that doesn't sit the best with the athlete either.
Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
I got it. So will VJ.
Speaker 4 (01:41:07):
Edgecombe be starting now that McCain clearly well, we don't
want to say he can't make deal, but he could technically.
But problem do you think he's starting the opposite maxim?
Speaker 9 (01:41:15):
I think I think at the end of the day,
it's going to be Grimes one way or another. This
is the first time the McCain injury is the first
time in this entire sequence that I think he's had
any bit of leverage in the conversations. Because now, like
the Sixers, everyone knows what happened last year. They can't
set themselves up for having another disaster season. And if
you're relying on a twenty year old kid to be
your day one starter, that's a risk you're taking. So
I think this probably results in more urgency for the
(01:41:37):
Sixers getting a deal done with Grimes, and he's probably
your day one starting shooting guard.
Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
So uh, emb we know nothing. Pretty much. We've heard
that he.
Speaker 8 (01:41:50):
Does look slim.
Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
Paul George what was.
Speaker 9 (01:41:54):
His I don't remember what his injury was the summer
knee cleanup. Moniscus would have issued deal. It was one
of those like, you know, clean up surgery type things.
Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
Old.
Speaker 3 (01:42:04):
Yeah, did he get younger in the offseason?
Speaker 8 (01:42:06):
Would be nice.
Speaker 9 (01:42:07):
He did tell us that he's still got some elite,
elite basketball left in him.
Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
So thanks for telling you? How many more? For three more?
Speaker 8 (01:42:14):
Three more?
Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
Sean you are? You're the eternal optimist. Is it finally
gotten to you? Could you just not take you anymore?
Speaker 9 (01:42:21):
I I just want, like, if this team can show
me something like, I want them to care. I want
them to show up. I think they're gonna be more
fun this year. That doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna be better.
I'm glad Paul George didn't come out and say, you
know what, I just don't think I have it. I'm
gonna go out there, I'm gonna try it, but ultimately I.
Speaker 6 (01:42:37):
Don't think I'm gonna be It's just every conversation, whether
it's a report or even the Way and Be talks,
it's just it takes him so much just to play
one game.
Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
In two weeks to see if I'm good.
Speaker 6 (01:42:49):
Basically, the crazy just and it's a shame because I
think he kind of gets it and it sucks, but
his body's just not It just takes so much for
him to play basketball.
Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
Shot one of the most shame. You could make a
case that I've made it before.
Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
He's one of the two most skilled big men overall
in the history of basketball and the other one be
a team Elijah. I mean that just played every part
of the court, did things acrobatically, footwork, shot making, and
you might be able to make a case that he's
the most skilled given his free throw percentage.
Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
It's just a shame.
Speaker 4 (01:43:25):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
And hey, if it wasn't for think about this, if
it wasn't for Yoki and the injury, he could have
won four straight MVPs.
Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
Yeah, that's that's like the world.
Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
Yes, the numbers he was putting up two years ago
before the end, oh my god, thirty.
Speaker 8 (01:43:44):
Six a game, more than a point per minute. That
he was good.
Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
And yet you knew it was going to end like that, Sean,
we did. Yeah, It's just it's just really unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (01:43:56):
And clearly he's at the point where he doesn't have
any confidence in his own at this point, and I
don't and I.
Speaker 3 (01:44:01):
Don't blame him correctly. I've shown some hope, though, let's
give show.
Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
So maybe if everything kind of goes right, okay, at
some point a couple of months into this year, maybe
they do have a decent year. Maybe they don't win
a championship, or maybe they don't get to the Eastern
Conference finals, but maybe they just have a decent year,
like Sean says, where you can.
Speaker 8 (01:44:22):
Root for him.
Speaker 6 (01:44:25):
Maybe maybe you're fourth seeded. Would that be to be George?
Like we didn't see him with everybody else. We have
not seen this core at all once in the courts.
Speaker 3 (01:44:37):
Maybe the rookie the year drafted this year is decent.
I think he's maybe from last year. His finger gets better,
He's more than decent. Athleticism is off the charts immediately,
one of the best athletes in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (01:44:50):
He reminds me of a Zaire Smith.
Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Come on, don't go to a way don't and you
have Kyle.
Speaker 8 (01:45:00):
Yeah, that cannot have We cannot have desire Smith energy.
Speaker 9 (01:45:05):
I will say the one notable takeaway I felt was
like relevant from yesterday's media to day, it's very clear
that the keys of the franchise are in Tyreease Maxi's
hands at this point, which is fun.
Speaker 8 (01:45:14):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 9 (01:45:15):
He talked all about like setting the standard, stepping up
as a leader, and all the workouts that he's hosted,
which is all great things in my mind.
Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
If it's healthy, they're backcoarts great. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:45:24):
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