Episode 28: Exploring Christopher Nolan's Masterpiece, NCAA Heartbreaks, and College Football Realignment

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Oi, this is Sports Broves with your hosts.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Chris, Andrew, Rammus , Victor and Corey.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Enjoy the commentary and all the banter and golden
poops.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Three, two, one.
Hello and welcome to SportsBroves, episode 28.
A bit of a while we are back.
College football has changed.
Epl is almost here, messy toMiami, mlb is in the thick of it
, and it's been a while.

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So let's connect.
Let's see what we are doing.
Some big movies are out.
What's everyone been doing?
Andrew, you seen any of the newmovies?
You seen Barbie?

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Not Barbie, but did the Oppenheimer experience and
it is legit.
I would put it up there.
Definitely a top fiveChristopher Nolan movie.
I loved Interstellar.
Like I know, some people comeout, some people come out, some
people don't.
Kind of hate on that onebecause the storylines kind of
wicked and it like jumps arounda lot.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Is that with Matthew McConnay?
Yeah, cool, good movie.
Never saw it.
You never saw Interstellar?
No, I didn't see Gravity,though Gravity was good.
That's not Christopher.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Nolan, though it's not a space movie, but it's not
Christopher.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Nolan movie.
I didn't know the direction wewere going with the topic.
Favorite Christopher Nolanmovie other than Oppenheimer and
Batman?

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, Dark Knight.
I think Dark Knight is thenumber one.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Well, he also did the Joker one, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, that was good.
It was done well, I don't know.
I didn't love the movie, but itwas pretty good.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
I don't know.
As far as superhero movies go,that's my number one.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Oh, dude, superhero movies time you got.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Okay, let's not go all in that Pearl Tangent, let's
tell it back into Oppenheimer.
But Oppenheimer is legit.
It's a really interesting storyto tell.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I saw an IMAX.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
I saw it in.
Imax.
Yep, didn't get the 70mm wooden.
I didn't want to make the driveall the way down to Nashville.
It didn't seem like it wasworth it.
Which, chris, by the way, doyou remember?
Do you know what movie theaterit is in Nashville?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Is it Opry?

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Mills or something, opry Mills.
Do you remember the first timeyou were at Opry Mills, when you
visited me that first time inNashville?
We were at the water park, wewere at the water park and you
were leaving and you werecrossing the street.
You were in the crosswalk andthat car came up and just like,
laid on the horn in blue as thehorn, so loud.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, first impression of Nashville was not
a great one.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I saw it in a crosswalk.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, literally I was walking across a parking lot
and this guy lays on the hornbecause I'm walking across the
and it's not like, oh yeah, Ihave the right of way.
No, I was literally walkingthrough a painted ladder, rung
of the way to go.
Yeah, I was like damn, thesepeople suck.
And then a couple years later Imoved there, and then you moved

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there, definitely a tourist.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
You're afraid.
I was outside of that movietheater.
Yeah, never went there.
I saw a parasite there in IMAX.
It was legit, never seen it Isthat the movie.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
that's all in another language, korean.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, it was good though.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, it's really good, yeah, is it short?
Isn't it like an hour and ahalf, like a short movie?

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, it's not long.
That's the thing aboutOppenheimer is you got to be
prepared?
This is not the movie to loadup on snacks and drinks pregame.
Why go?
I know right, but you don't,because here's the problem.
You could go to the.
You could probably get up andgo to the bathroom in the first

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45 minutes, but if you leave atany point, like in the back half
of the movie, you're going tomiss so much because it starts
going so fast.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Question for you guys how many times, or what
percentage of times, have youleft the movie in a movie
theater to use the bathroomduring a movie?
I've only done it once.
I can remember I did it onetime, west Virginia, harry
Potter.
I almost peed my pants.
It was so bad, harry Potter,yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
What?
Oh, it was the fountain that'sthe Chamber of Secrets.
I got to go now.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
I kind of completely forgot about that.
I was like, oh shit, that'sright.
Yeah, I hate leaving movies.
I mean I don't go to a moviethat often.
I'm not a huge movie guy.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I know, but I just don't like to leave a movie
during a movie.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
No, I don't either.
That was when, in Atlanta, mysenior year, I moved off campus
into North Atlanta in findingsright where the new ballpark is,
the new Brace Ballpark.
It wasn't there when I livedthere, but I literally my
apartment complex was rightacross from a really nice movie
theater.
So I was just, it was the best,I would just walk over, go see

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a movie in the afternoon onmyself, or whatever.
It was pretty legit.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
So that was like the summer.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
It was what was the Compton movie.
Straight out of Compton.
Straight out of Compton.
Yeah, that was the one that Ihad to.
It was such a long movie.
Did you guys see that I neversaw?

Speaker 5 (06:00):
it.
Yeah, that's a good movie.
Yeah, ice cubes in that.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Is he?
His son plays him.
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Chris, what's up with your mic man?
I don't have the.
I don't have the thing with me.
I got to hold it.
You haven't unpacked it yet.
I'm going in chiclet style.
This is how they do it onchiclets the guy just kind of
holds it the whole time.
I just hope it's not going to.
I'm afraid, for when I go backto edit this, if this is going
to have like a bunch ofinterference, I'm trying to like

(06:35):
I don't hear any of it Unlessyou like switch hands or
something when you like.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
move it around, yeah, but if you keep it still,
that's fine.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Okay, so back to Oppenheimer.
I've been going down a rabbithole with World War II, world
War I, 21st century history ofthe United States and the world,
so I'm ready to watch this.
I'm pretty pumped.
I've been watching a lot ofdocumentaries on it.
So the movie how close is it?

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Is it true?
How deep does it go into?
Like the like?
I know it's true, but like.
Are they basing it off a truestory or are they doing it more
like?

Speaker 5 (07:16):
No, this is Nolan's very literal and like making it
not very deviated from the truthand like what actually happened
.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
So it's based off the book American Prometheus.
That is about Oppenheimer.
So it's like it is about WorldWar II, but you're not getting
World War II in it.
Like the whole focus of themovie is Oppenheimer, his
upbringing, his come up through,you know being involved in

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physics and discovery and youknow his connections with all
these physicists, and then Thenit's him and his involvement in
the Manhattan Project.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Do they go into?
Like what they did to, like theManhattan Project, like how
they like created new cities andnew infrastructure, like out of
nowhere?
Cool, yep, it's legit.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
It's the coolest.
That's what's so cool aboutwatching.
It is because that's notpossible anymore.
Like you couldn't do that.
You couldn't just create asecret city somewhere and expect
everyone living there.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, yeah, they're like do you know what you do
here?
No, not a clue.
That's what's like 90% of thepeople that work there had no
idea.
No idea, not even a symbol.
It's just literally no idea.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
That the secrecy around this was incredible, and
you know why?
It's because of how significant, like, the ones that knew what
they were doing knew thesignificance and everyone knew
we were in a World War II.
So, like spies, that was a bigdeal.
Like when there's a war goingon and there's, you know, you

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got allies and enemies andpeople gather information.
Yeah, I mean that's why it wasable to stay a secret.
Yeah, psychological warfare,that's the craziest thing.
They built this bomb, theytested it.
The next day they take it.
They don't even hear whathappens until they announce,
like until Harry Truman is onthe line.

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They tell Harry Truman is onthe radio announcing they
dropped the bomb.
Like that's how they found out,that's what was great.
I couldn't believe.
Like just everyone had theirjob in this and they did their
job and then that's it.
I didn't know what was going onaround them or all the movie
pieces.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, they were just incredibly siloed, like even the
guy that was or even I thinkthey were B-29s that took the
bomb out there.
Yeah, like they only like theyknew, like they knew their
mission, and then obviously likethe ranking generals and stuff.
But yeah, it was, it's going tobe.

(09:56):
I want to see.
It Sounds awesome.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
I saw somewhere that it was quoted, that one of the
pilots who dropped the first oneas they were flying away he was
like like oh God, what have wejust done?
I think is what he said.
So I don't even knew, like theyknew what they were dropping.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
They didn't.
They thought they knew it was abomb.
They didn't know it was theatomic bomb Right.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Like they didn't know the sheer destruction that was
going to happen.
They never had, they weresaying, yeah, they were saying
when they dropped the bomb Ithink it was the Enola Gray they
dropped it and then, obviouslyyou know, flew away and when it
finally ended up hitting theground, they could like feel it.
That's right.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
That bright light and that's the best scene of the
whole movie is the bomb.
Obviously, you're going to seeyou know, what?
Yeah, all right, I won't spoilit.
Then you guys.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Dr Warner Von Braun, is he in it?

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah, yeah, All those businesses.
I mean it's crazy.
You know it's good you think of.
Albert Einstein is like thisguy.
That was like in the way topass.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I think he's like he's in there.
I think I've always thought ofhim as like late 1800s Albert
Einstein.
He's kind of got that award tohim.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, no man.
It's crazy what these peoplewere doing and like they were
literally doing this stuffcalculations by hand on white
boards, on paper, scratch paper,just coming up with this stuff
based on theory.
They were building this bomb.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, yeah, they had to keep like the plutonium
pressure, like at a certaincertain degree or whatever.
And they had these groups ofwomen and I can't remember what
they called them, but it wasjust these women at these like
huge computers, and they wouldjust hit dials and change to
keep it within a certainparameter.
Oh, yeah.

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There was like some sort ofissue where people were like
scoffing at their inability to,so they did it, and they did it
against scientists and they didbetter than the scientists.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
They got high school girls.
It wasn't just girls, it washigh school girls Really.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
They did better than the scientists.
Yeah, yeah, I didn't raise them.
I didn't raise them, uh huh,but they had no idea what they
were doing.
They thought they were justlike pulling levers and switches
and they were just like okay.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, yeah.
That's amazing that people arejust like, yeah, I'll do it,
sure.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
That.
I mean that's the biggest thing.
And obviously we're in adifferent time where you know
the internet, social media,everything.
We have so much information atour disposal.
We don't fall like thefollowing of authority back then
, like if someone told you to dosomething, just did it, you
didn't question it, like therewasn't, like why are we doing
this?
Or you know what's the big ideahere?

(12:58):
Except they're they do a greatjob in the movie of kind of
showing how they were really ata, you know, at a crossroads,
trying to think about theethical, you know, dilemma of
building an atomic weapon, youknow, building something that

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would be so destructive.
And they knew I mean eventhought that there was a chance
it could blow the entire worldup, which was insane, like they
really had they really had likeno idea.
No, it's gonna happen.
No, when they did that firsttest, man, I can't imagine just
the sheer fear when they'reabout to set this thing off.

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You know, not knowing what itwould do.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
I think the pilots died on one of the first tests
because they weren't that faraway.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yeah, that wasn't like I heard about that.
Yeah, they had different.
You'll see it in the movie.
They have different stationsset up and each like distance.
They have to do, like you know,some people have to be like
behind this heavy machine, likeprotective wall, and they have
the goggles on everything.
And then guys that are like amile out, they're, like you know

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, looking behind this.
They have like this glass thatthey're having to shield
themselves with and they're onthe ground and yeah, no, it's,
it's insane.
And what they were able tocapture, like with the
cinematography of everything, isjust it's perfect, Damn
absolutely.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
It looks so real.
Yeah, I can't wait to watch it.
I was reading that a lot ofthose like makeshift plants that
they did this at, like we still.
The documentary was saying likewe still don't really know,
like, what went on there.
Like there's just like vagueblueprints of what was

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constructed but we still have noidea what all went involved in
that.
Yeah, yeah, history's,history's lit.
I discovered this year.
History is lit.
Can confirm?

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Dude, I don't know if it's just getting older, if
this is what we do, but I lovewatching the Smithsonian channel
, the history channel.
Dude, yeah, I'm like so intothese history books now, oh my
God, I'm reading a book.
I'm reading a book right nowabout the history of Florida,
which is Florida man, like thisis it's 15.

(15:29):
Sc number.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
Yeah, that's so funny .

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, we thought, if it starts off like Danny were
full, steve Spurrier, like thoseguys.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Right, yeah, yeah, the state of Florida, but yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
No man.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Yeah, history is interesting.
Like there's so much nuance.
Most of my tick tock is justhistory tick tock now where I
just like start watching thesestorytellers.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Have you guys recently got into the JFK
assassination because you?

Speaker 4 (16:02):
guys look at that at all.
We're going to go player 10foil caps on and talk about
conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
I'll tell you what happened.
It's not a conspiracy.
I'll tell you what happened.
Yeah, yeah.
Professional hit two to threemen.
Job Did he die?
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Was there two shooters or one shooter?
At least two.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
At least two.
Yeah, lee Harvey Oswald in theTexas state book depository and
an unnamed assailant over thegrassy.
No, behind the fence, okay soyou're part of the grassy.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
No contingency grassy .

Speaker 3 (16:38):
No.
So I saw.
I've been looking at it andthen one of the episodes on
YouTube that came up as arecommended watch was macro
dosing the JFK assassination.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
It's pretty funny, like they just talk about random
shit and I guess the film thatrecords the actual shots is it's
called like PFT.
Screw this up.
For me it's called like aSepruder, is it Pruder?

Speaker 4 (17:04):
films.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah, it's pruder, it's a pruder.
Yeah, and PFT is like.
Every time I hear it, I thinkit's the zip recruiter film.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
So every time I see it, I think it's zip recruiter.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Yeah, that was one of their first ones.
I try to listen to those macrodosing.
They have some good ones thatgo with it.
They went through Oppenheimeras well.
Really.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
I only listened to a couple.
I actually listened to one.
There was one, it was.
It said Billy was mad at MeganRapinoe.
All right, let me see what hehas to say.
And I pulled it up and it's thefirst time I've ever seen the
podcast without PFT.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Yeah, I can't listen to it without PFT.
It's awesome PFT drives thatthing, yeah, seriously.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
So I've listened to every single one, and Arian and
Big T just did one, and it wasjust them two.
Kind of good, actually, justthem two.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Yeah, I can't stand Big T, though man, I hate Big T,
I mean he's a Tessie man, butgosh, he's so stupid.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Where are they based out of?
Is Arian Foster and likeHouston, yeah?

Speaker 5 (18:10):
it was in Houston.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
They do it fully remote they're going to now.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
How does that?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
work.
How does that work with BillyLeven PMT?
Is he going to stay on macrodosing?
Yeah, no.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Okay, all right, that's good.
Yeah, because of Arian beingremote, they're just going to
have PFT remote in Chicago.
I think Big T's actually movedto Chicago, maybe some other
people, I don't know.
Who knows what's going on atBarstool right now.
In the last couple hours, Imean, their whole company just
changed Barstool's back.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Did you see?

Speaker 4 (18:46):
it.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, yeah, people are starting all these random
like the caller daddy girlstarted out a new unwell.
What up DJ?

Speaker 4 (18:54):
What's up, man, he's coast.
Do you have air pods oranything?
Yeah, I could hear you Do?

Speaker 5 (19:00):
you have air pods.
You have like a headset orsomething.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Any sort of headphones.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
I don't think he can hear us.
I can hear you now, oh God hisass.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
We're going to have to skip that little portion of
there.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
I'll do it right out of the podcast.
Is everybody going to be usedright here?
Oh yeah, the grills here.
Okay, what is it?
What's?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
it called.
I'm visiting Charlotte.
I haven't been back here.
I lived here.
This is how I met.
Andrew for like six years orwhatever, and like this is the
best thing there is and it cameout early or something.
That's my football beer, so Iwas like ready to dive in deep
here.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
What's it?
What's the beer called?
I've never seen that.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
It is a Noda Gorgeous If we're going to start getting
sponsorships on here.
I would add Noda Brewing yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
I'll reach out to them and see if they want to
sponsor.
Otherwise we'll bleep this out.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Done.
Yeah, this is the best fallbeer you'll ever have in your
life.
It's a little early, but like Isaid in, the second homecoming,
so I'm having it here in August.
Just to get far down it'sfootball season.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
It's right around the corner.
Let's go.
Yeah, you're fall ready, that'sright, make me feel closer.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I've been sitting here sipping on a medello.
Not only did it, because it's aCori's, that's how.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Cori's got one.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
I was like, I'll go get one.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
It's medello time fool Well let me crash the party
.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I know I'm late.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
You're good, man, you're good.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I'm just diving in wherever, so I'm going to go
shut the door open.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
Wait, when is Harry coming on tonight?

Speaker 3 (20:35):
No, let me read you the text.
Well, I don't want to hear it.
I don't think the air is dirtylaundry, but I'm going to do it.
Content Go, respect it.
Oh, he said damn it, bro, Ihave to bail.
B-a-l-e.
I have to bail on you.
Got to go see my mom who hadknee replacement surgery last
week.
She's causing a ruckus at therehab place.
He's going to get so muchcontent over there.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
He's going to get so much content.
He's going to ask do you wantto go live?

Speaker 5 (21:06):
Put her on the phone, let me talk to her.
Oh my gosh, vic, did you guysend up playing Fall Guys that
other night?
Yeah, I was pissed.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah, we got to the final and then we missed it.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
It was just you and Riley.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
It was me Riley, one of his friends and a random.
Am I good, Can you?

Speaker 5 (21:31):
hear me yeah, okay, that's a lot better.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Yeah, perfect.
I don't know where Chris wentto.
So yeah, I think what we'll dois just you can introduce
yourself, we'll go.
Well, actually, we'll just goaround and we can all introduce
ourselves and you can kind ofshare, just talk about what your
favorite sports teams are andthen, most heartbreaking moment,
you're making it heartbreaking.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
I was like I can't wait to pick.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
It's been a tough year, right.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
I'll give you some nostalgic picks, but then I'll
come back to you.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Garbage.
Yeah, my name is DJ Beaver.
I met Andrew working throughthe same engineering company
back in 20, dude, remember 2016.
So my company asked me totravel out to Charlotte.
I was living in Phoenix at thetime.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
It was right around March, bandis.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
So I just kind of rolled a bit of this office and
they're like ACC tournamentshere.
Basketball is kind of big outhere.
I'm like oh man, okay, I haveno idea how or why I met Andrew,
for whatever reason, but heended up being a Kentucky fan,
even though he wanted GeorgiaTech.
And right, are you wearing aTennessee hat?

Speaker 5 (22:52):
No dude.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
This is the tech.
The tech tee, that's Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, no change.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Is that a tech tee?

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Andrew and I went to I think it was Graham Street Pub
or something like that and wewatched SEC Tournament
basketball in Arizona playedOregon, I think in a semi-final.
We lost, we were bad that year2016.
But I think a relationshipspawned from there.
But for me personally,obviously Arizona is my friend

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and butter.
I grew up there.
I lived there for 26 years,actually lived there now again.
I moved back last August, abouta year ago now.
We had a baby in February, soshe's close to her grandparents
and her cousins and football ison at a better time for us out

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there yeah, not 11 o'clock, it'snot 11 o'clock at night.
My favorite sports teams, ifwe're going the college route,
are definitely the U of A.
My family is from Ohio sounfortunately, for better or
worse, I've been an Ohio Statefan.

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My parents went to the nationalchampionship game in Tempe when
I can't remember who got calledfor the push off in the corner,
but it was like triple overtime.
I think it was Willis McGee.
He snapped his knee in thatgame.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Oh, we talked about.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Miami, yeah, yeah I was taking my.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
It was like 2001.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Yeah, wow.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, it was a while ago, but they were there.
They were at that game.
So I mean we were fans longbefore that.
But my parents are definitelyinto Ohio State.
But both my parents met at theU of A.
It graduated in 86.
They've had season tickets foralmost 40 years now.
With two other families we goback every year as much as we

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can for a game.
I went back last year for onegame drove down.
I saw SC play the cats andhonestly I thought we played
really tough.
Like there was a couple ofweird calls Go back and watch.
I can't remember what his nameis.
I probably should do myhomework, but it is a really
good like 30 minute recap of thegame.

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There is a long third downsthat they called a personal foul
, like out of bounds orsomething, and they would have
punted the ball back to us.
We were down seven, like in thefourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
So we can play these guys, tough yeah, you guys had
them.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Most heartbreaking moment, undeniable unequivocals.
We blew a 15 point lead toIllinois, oh gosh, 2005.
It was apparently one of thegreatest comebacks in the
history of March Madness, butfor me it was quite honestly,
the most horrific, like fourminutes I've ever experienced.

(25:47):
We had a party on the forgetthis at my parents' house.
We had a lot of people overthere is, you know, hooten and
Holler, and like my dad and Iare just kind of sitting there
like everyone Settle in likethis, this is not over.
And Lou was just such aunbelievable tournament coach
like absolutely took teams thatdidn't.

(26:08):
We were three seed that yearand we squeaked by Oklahoma
State the game before that.
So we just got a minor hit likea eight foot baseline jumper to
go up by one.
I think Eddie Sutton was thehead coach of Oklahoma State.
They were a good team.
I think they were a one seed ora two seed.
We upset them and so we werekind of riding that like we

(26:29):
shouldn't be here.
You know, we were just like,look at your vibe.
And we played, honestly,probably one of the top 10 teams
of college basketball.
I think they lost like one ortwo games maybe all year.
That Illinois was bill selveslike built team.
I mean, he built that team.
There's Luther had JeronWilliams, james Augustine, they

(26:51):
had the, I think D Williams orhe's Jeron Williams and D
somebody, but like they're aloaded dude they lost a game to
Ohio State.
I remember that that year of afree kind of deal it was a fag
mother coach team.
They were a good team but up by15 blew it.
They pressed a little bit andDeron just went.

(27:12):
I hit like three or four threesin the last like four minutes
and it was just like turnoverafter turnover after turnover.
We called timeout still up bylike eight, like okay, we're
okay here.
Oh, we just like kept turningit over and they would run down
and hit a three.
We ended up losing the game 90to 89 in overtime and that team

(27:34):
lost to Carolina.
But that was a fricking in thechampionship game.
That was a fricking good teamand we haven't made it back
since.
We haven't been that close,since we have one other overtime
loss.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Yeah, wisconsin right .

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Wisconsin very close game, unbelievable good game.
I mean just a vaunted defensive, very talented offense, like
then.
We played him again the yearafter and then lost again.
But Andrew knows that team well.
One of those teams beat Brideand Joy and the rest is history.

(28:06):
Yeah, I don't know, they didn'twin.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Yeah, that was my most heartbreaking moment was
the 2015 Kentucky team losing tothat Wisconsin team.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Niger has.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
The shot clock violation, being there in person
was.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Sam Becker just gunned everybody down, that
attorney.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Except against Duke man, where he was ice cold,
couldn't make anything, oh.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
I remember Grayson Allen like came off the bench in
that championship game andcoach K, like either During a
half time speech or like one ofthe first things they asked him
like after they won the game,and like he just went
immediately to Grayson Allen.
He was like the guys loveGrayson Allen and he came off
the bench and he had like 14points or something.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Yeah, that's why he do.
Who doesn't I?

Speaker 2 (28:57):
could have gone to 2001 route.
Yeah, that was a special seasontoo.
So to give you guys somecontext there and I think this
is what's fun is like everyone'sgot their teams and you can
kind of hear like the subtlebackstory.
So for those of you that don'tknow that, 2000, 2000, 2001,.
Arizona men's basketball teamStarted off the year, I'm sure,

(29:20):
highly ranked.
We had a gauntlet of a schedule.
Maybe one day we can pull it upon here and Wikipedia.
I think we played like In thenonconference alone like six or
seven ranked teams or somethinglike that is crazy.
We were like a two seed withlike 10 losses.
I mean it was.
We played Stanford that yeartwice who was, I think, top five

(29:41):
.
We played like Maryland who wastop five.
We played, or two is top five.
We played Illinois, who was topfive.
In the middle of the seasonthough Lutz wife complained of
just either being in pain orsomething and I'll never forget
this.
In between Christmas and NewYear's she went and got like an
MRI and they were just like boomcats or everywhere.

(30:03):
Oh, just like in the middle ofthe season.
Everyone's like, oh my God.
So like Lutz, like I got tostep away and everyone's like we
totally get it.
And so he stepped away from theteam.
We lost a couple games.
She died in the middle of theseason.
Jim Ross Barrow, who is ourassociate head coach of the time

(30:23):
, coached the team the rest ofthe way.
I think Lutz joined us again inlike February or March.
Like, I mean, he literally,like his wife of you know 40
years died and so he came backand everyone's like all right,
we're going to win this one.
For Bobby, like Lutz came backlike nothing left in the tank
emotionally and he was just likewe're going to do it and we

(30:47):
went on a tear.
I mean, we just took off like itwas unbelievable.
We steamrolled everybody.
That tournament got to thetitle game against probably the
best team of all time.
I know Andrew would say is someof his Kentucky teams Go look
at that, oh, one team that was agood team.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
James Battier, Carlos Boozer, Mike Dunlavy.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Ellen Brand, jay Williams, chris Duhon Geez, they
were stacked, dude, stacked,stacked, stacked, stacked,
stacked and we just we kind ofran out of gas.
There were some chancey foulcalls but, like you could tell,
the team was just riding onemotion and adrenaline.
We lost, but that was.
I was like, if you ever thoughtof like the biblical run of

(31:34):
watching your absolute, I'mtrying to think of who the
equivalent of It'd be like ifDavos, sweeney's wife,
unfortunately like passed awayin the middle of the season.
And then Clemson just goes likea guy who built the school like
absolutely yeah from the groundSure there was a little bit of
history but like took him to anabsolute different level,

(31:54):
different talent level,different, like bring talent out
of players ability level, likeyou can think of so many of
those panning fry three starrecruit, like Gilbert Arrhenius,
like two star recruit, I meanthere is a refreeze, and they
were just selling air.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Yeah, man, if Arizona Reach Agents zero.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
So, speaking of Arizona, I like to say you have
a like you did, because it makesme sound like I know what I'm
talking about.
So you have a bear down thebest player ever to come out of
U of a curious of your opinion,and why it's basketball Doesn't
matter Gronkowski.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
The best player you coaches all in that category, I
mean.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Oh, I know I hold on hold on.
I know who he's going to say,because I know who he loves.
You're gonna say Steve Kerr,weren't you?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
He would be the best.
I mean, as I'm saying, is he aplayer?
Is he?

Speaker 4 (33:02):
a coach.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
He's definitely the most wrecked If you.
If you think of the game ofbasketball I don't think someone
has.
He's got Steph Curry but MarkJackson was a coach before him
and Mark Mark was running thathardcore grinder defense.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Was more of the pistons back in the day.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
I mean it was just a very defense thing.
It was like Steph Curry playingdefense.
But Steve stat, check me onthis, whoever's on this lead
still has the record for theNCAA like career 3.0 percentage
is over 50%.
I mean it's just, it's absurd.
I mean it's not, it's not real,it's just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
But him going there.
Yeah, what does he have?

Speaker 2 (33:46):
10 rings now I mean it's, if yeah, three with the
three with the bowls, to withthe Spurs.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Do I feel like for?
Four, so maybe as like SteveKerr for Arizona, is like what
Pat Riley is for Kentucky.
Dude wasn't like a totallygreat player when he was at
Kentucky, but like his careerjust took off and is just he's
dominated everywhere he's been.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
At every level.
Yeah, as a good player gettingfrom a good program.
A good coach recruited him.
Saw something there, Steve.
Yeah, but I'll you said Arizonasong to go dive deep down.
There's a guy who was one eightnational championships and he
recently retired, but MikeCandrea, I mean he was.

(34:34):
You ever went eight nationalchampionships?
Like playing softball, it'slike your softball program.
I can't say that out here.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
I just, I mean, you know how Dean Smith said.
You know, we're not like abasketball or a women's soccer
school.
Lou would have said like thesame.
He's like we're a or women'ssoccer like as you in North.
Carolina is.
Women's soccer team is adynasty or something.
I'm just absurd.

(35:04):
Look up Mike Candrea and no onetalks about him enough.
He ran the 90s.
I mean, he was winning a titleevery year.
He reminds me a lot of GinaOriama, like a women's sport
that people paid attention to.
But kind of, you know, okay, iswe like men's March Band is?

Speaker 3 (35:23):
both here.
Here's this women's team and,like man, they're dominating
right there undefeated seasons,like Oklahoma softball is kind
of getting that love.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
right now they're just a wagon.
It wins 60 games or somethingabout the percentages there,
like they play 60 games and theylose like two games.
I mean twice as many as collegemen's college basketball at six
times as many, almost seventimes as many as men's college
football.
So those two guys for sure Iknow I'm speaking a lot and I

(35:54):
would love to hear anyone else'sthoughts that they have.
And Bronx, the easy choice, Iguess, like he's popular, he's a
good player.
He had Tom Brady, though.
I mean like yeah, but they sawsomething.
I think he was the first orsecond round picks, so they were
like he's got some game butcame out of retirement just to
play with Tom.
That doesn't say somethingabout what he thought of Tom and

(36:16):
the way Tom prepares for games.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Andrew's like yeah, I love to worry and retire to
come play for the Bucks.
I mean, let's not overlook that, that huge possibility.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Andrew and I would always go back and forth like
who's better, bill or Tom andTom.
For the longest time I wasalways like the coach builds the
player.
To me I was like you can getlucky and draft somebody.
But I was like even before, Tom, like Bill Belichick has some
nasty Browns teams and I'm kindof rooting for him with Matt
Jones.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
I'm like oh really Wait.
So you've turned and you'relike you lost this on that the
porter.
I was every game.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
I don't like the pass , but I they do have a lot of
Arizona flavor on their TeddyBruce.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
He was pretty recognizable Zonny SPM, a great
analyst.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
A very low rated recruit.
Riot came from a good coach,found him in college, coached
him up.
He went to a good organization,stayed there, earned his way up
.
And then think about how manygood linebackers came out of
that Belichick defense.
Yeah, oh many, so manyunheralded guys Like I remember

(37:28):
playing Kyle or I didn'tpersonally play him with
watching Kyle Van Noy at BYUbeing like this guy's good, like
I think I'm blown away by him.
But the career that Van Noy wenton to have, like with the
Patriots, I was like this isridiculous what he can do with
players.
Patrick Chung's other guy I waslike Patrick Chung went to
Oregon.
I was like he was pretty good.
But what do you guys say?

(37:51):
I don't know.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Well, let's go into it.
You want to go into it, Chris?
Just start talking conferencerealignment and what's going on.
Let's kind of just go over whatthe news is and just kind of go
from there.
So, of course, you know, let mestart.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Let me start this segment.
Yeah, the college footballrealignment.
I have paid zero attention towhat's going on.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Like I couldn't tell you anything.
The only thing I know what'sgoing on is trying to sift
through Harry's texts to some ofthe other conference
realignment texts to see what'sactually going on.
So if anyone wants to clue mein on why the Pac-12 was dead
and why the Big 12 is now Big 20, I'm up for it.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
I mean, I want to get DJ's take on this, because, dj,
we've kind of talked about this, the past, the Pac-12 network,
and how this thing was justbuilt to fail and it was just
never could take off.
Pac-12 after dark, I mean right.
So who was the commissionerwith Scott?
Larry Scott, is that right?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Larry.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Yeah, and he thought he was a revolutionary coming up
with this concept of we'regoing to create this network on
our own and then sell it tosomebody and then they just
couldn't.
They couldn't get anybody totake it.
I mean, you could barely findthe Pac-12 network.
I remember, DJ, you're tryingto find, you know, streams of
Arizona games that were onPac-12.

(39:22):
Only you couldn't.
You couldn't even watch thegame.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Larry had the perfect plan and the worst execution.
If you go back and look, larryput together the most lucrative
TV deal.
I think that's when the Big 10network really started to like
take hold and weird things werehappening with the Longhorn

(39:49):
network.
That was a new thing with Texasand it was like what pissed off
the Big 12 teams Nebraska moremore than not, tom Osborne,
missouri A&M for sure was thefact that like why does Texas
get their?
own network versus the rest ofus.

(40:10):
So Texas saw what the Big 10did, but the Big 10 was in the
Midwest, like AT&T.
Direct TV, like that stuff wasa foothold out there.
Larry's biggest mistake wasthat what I've researched either
overvalued or underestimatedwhat he thought like Direct TV

(40:36):
specifically was going to do,and so he either turned down a
deal from Direct TV that hethought was lowballing them.
The Direct TV comes to thetable and says we think you're
worth 300 million Larry's likeoh, we're worth 400 million
Larry's, like we're gonna walk,we're okay with that, but that
that move hook so manyopportunities for people in the

(41:00):
Midwest East Coast.
I mean Direct TV is obviously anational brand.
They're everywhere.
They've got NFL Sunday ticketlike that.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
Remember.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
NFL Sunday ticket.
You can only get that on DirectTV back in the day.
So like if you liked football,that was, that was the cable
provider, satellite provider,whatever that you had, you liked
football, you want this.
One Big 10 network was likewe're on Direct TV, period
matter what.
Don't care what you value us at,Don't care whatever.
Larry said no.

(41:28):
So we got pigeonholed to TimeWarner cable in Spectra, right
Of all things.
Both, I think, are Californiabased.
You know the headquarters inCalifornia, but the reach is not
quite as big as Direct TV.
But oddly enough, Spectrum TVout here in Charlotte, North

(41:50):
Carolina, was like hell.
Yeah, Like I can watch Pax 12network, but it was the.
It was being able to go to abar and think about football
bars.
What do football bars have?
They have Direct TV.
Why?
Because they want Sundaytickets.
They can bring people in wheneverybody's watching football
and things kind of snowballedfrom there.

(42:11):
We didn't.
The big 12 got a little rockywhen Texas and Oklahoma bounced
to the SEC and everyone's like,oh, we're gonna back in the day
if you've really looked into itback in 2011,.
We were very.
The Pax 12 was very, very thePact 10 at that time was very
very, very, very, very close togetting Texas and Oklahoma to go

(42:34):
to the.
Pact 10.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
It was based off.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
It was based off that AAU, that academic, you know
that's what, honestly, thedriver is California.
That's what Stanford wanted,that's what SC wanted, that's
what UCLA wanted and that's whatCal wanted and like what they
want they got and that was that.
But for some reason that didn'thappen.

(42:58):
They stuck around to the big 12for another 10 years, then left
.
But even then there was roundtwo.
It was like, okay, tcus up forgrabs, baylor's up for grabs,
texas Tigers up for grabs,kansas is up for grabs.
I remember there was a lot ofKansas big 10.
Ooh, definitely they could fillthat like Nebraska partnership.
So Larry again chose not toexpand or he listened to the

(43:23):
wrong contingent and, from whatI understand, usc shut a lot of
that down and they played it offof like religious base, like we
don't want to Baptist school,that would be Baylor.
We don't want to Christianschool in here, that would be
TCU.
They also didn't want a Mormonschool in there.
That would be why you.
So they got very like pickywhen they shouldn't have been,

(43:48):
and then those assets eitherstayed or left and BYU
eventually made their way to thebig 12 and then use USC and
UCLA.
I mean, they got offered a bag,I would have taken it, and
Arizona almost didn't go.
I don't know how closelyeverybody was following this.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Right Like a.
It was close.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Okay, when you say last ditch effort, it was like
the meeting was scheduled at 9amand at 745, like offers are
coming off the ticker for bothwe're gonna offer X dollars and
the conference is just dying.
I mean, when you're consideringbringing in Tulane and well.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
SMU, it's not like that.
So they had the Apple TV dealright.
So this was like the lastchance to save the pack.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
That was a mystery, though no one knew how much that
was exactly.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
And then the news came out about what the deal
actually was and it had allthese incentives built in right,
so you had to have so manyviewership numbers, subscriber
numbers, to hit these metrics.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
It clips the numbers that they said they would.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
Exactly, and if you look it down like that was what
they were asking for.
To get to what the SEC and thebig 10 are making, they would
have had to have the same numberof subscribers as the NFL does
for Redzone.
Like that was the level.
It was insane.
It was unattainable.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
It was, it would redefine the term Hail Mary.
I mean it was they're bankingon it streaming absolutely
taking over, which I thinkthings like YouTube TV, you know
, shout out to YouTube TV.
I have that.
I mean I think it works great,but that will never not show up

(45:34):
in a sports bar, Like you've gotto be a sports bar type deal.
Like Apple, no one's pulling upApple TV at the local sports
bar.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
It's just not gonna I mean, we're gonna find out this
fall with NFL Sunday ticketbeing on YouTube TV now and all
these bars are gonna have tofigure this out Like it's gonna
be hilarious.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Well, it's like right , and they came up with a crazy
deal.
I think I split it with mybrother-in-law.
And that's the other cool thingtoo, is like YouTube TV, you
can still kind of like under thetable, split with everybody,
and it's like, oh, this issuddenly like very affordable.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
You get everything and it just grows the sport.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
But track 12, whatever they got outfoxed by
Brett Yormark Brett Yormark didit was the thing I want to talk
about the most is like Twitterand how this played a role in
how this all went down.
There were two huge factions ofpeople people that believed the

(46:35):
insiders from day one, and thenpeople that were saying you are
dead.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Like you are so wrong .
I've got people up in theseathletic departments and they're
literally telling me they'rehaving meetings in.
I've never seen anything likeit.
I mean people are like theywere betting money but they were
.
I mean they were like callingeach other out.
They're like you're wrong.
And just watching that kind ofdynamic go back and forth and

(47:01):
then to watch the people thathonestly I didn't care.
I wanted what was best for atthe end of the day, or as I was,
thinking yeah.
I can't care less about thisconference.
I don't think they've everreally stuck their neck out for
anybody.
But really the schools inCalifornia and schools in
California has dug their owngrave, Like it was very well
known.
They shut down all of thatexpansion, all of it, that TCU,

(47:25):
BYU, Albedo.
I mean great programs andwatching these guys kind of like
back up.
And I'll say their names onhere John Kenzano, this guy that
follows Oregon, that guy wasdead as well.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Like I don't know who he was following and like he
works for the athletic and I waslike dude, you pay, you make
people pay for your informationand you move so wrong Like you
said that and no one's gonnabelieve it, man.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
And you know what the nail in the coffin was last
year when USC and UCLA left,like that was it?
Like these were the two schoolsrunning the conference.
And when they leave to go tothe big 10 and we're like you
know geographies out the door.
You know it doesn't matteranymore.
The Ryan was on the wall forthe Pac-12.

(48:11):
It was gonna collapse For sure.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
I think the schools that had the guts a lot of
people later made a lot of bigdeal and academic research money
and I'm like that doesn't, itdoesn't.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
I mean, it's all about football, it's all about
that.
It's literally only aboutfootball.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
It's about exposure, like it's not just how good you
are, but who is watching you,like the only people.
So Pac-12 after dark I can'tremember who said it, but that
was one of the greatest and Iuse this term because I've lived
in both coasts and I'm allowedto say it but like the East

(48:52):
coast media belittling a goodfootball league and they made it
a joke because of, like, crazycomebacks.
It's like they're actuallyreally talented players and it's
like if you go and look at NFLdraft, I'm like there's plenty
of pacts, oh, dudes, everybody.
I'm like the NFL doesn't thinkthis league sucks.
If they thought the leaguesucked, then we'd be the

(49:13):
mountain West and no one wouldbe drafted in the first three
rounds.
I'm like you have playerseverywhere, tip of toe is
drafted.
I mean you're going to haveanother guy drafted, number one,
caleb Williams.
I'm like dude, there's goodplayers everywhere and it was
wild to be like.
Oh, this is a joke and they'dplay the circus music in the
background showing highlights.
And I'm like this is bad.
I'm like you can't be seen as ajoke and like all of a sudden,

(49:37):
all of a sudden, what became afun, cute thing became a joke
and became a JV football leagueand then all of a sudden, you
lose viewers and then boom, yourdad, you're sunk.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Yep, what's up, harry ?

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Fun on guys.
I finally made it.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Harry, you're late.
We got my buddy.

Speaker 5 (49:58):
This is.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
DJ.
He's a huge University ofArizona fan, so he's our.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Pac-12 analyst.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
He's your West Coast guy.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Yeah, yep, he's a coast connection.
Yeah, how are you doing, harry?
What's your story?

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Oh, what's my story?
I'm best friends with theJohnson boys.
I'm like the uncle Harry.
I'm pretty much kind of like anuncle for them.
So we've got a lot in common welike to cruise, we like to talk
sports, and then our arsenal isthe best right, Corey
Christopher, you agree.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Well, I don't cruise.
I'm going to disagree with twoof those three.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Community shield champs.
It doesn't mean shit, I know.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
I didn't know it was happening.
Then, all of a sudden, theywere holding up a trophy.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
But I'm also an FSU graduate.
Yeah, so Corey, he's a bigGator fan, even though he's
never stepped on campus otherthan the football stadium.
But no, I went to Florida State, graduated there.
Just to give you an idea howold I am, I was at wide right
one.
So we're talking I was there inthe 80s, early 90s.

(51:11):
So go way back.
Danny McManus was thequarterback when I went to
Florida State.
Bobby Bowden was actually ayoung man back then.
So when I was there the Northand South end zones were
basically a high school stadium.
So after I left is when theyfinally bolded in and the
stadium became a little morepresentable.

(51:33):
So I've seen that program gothrough a lot.
But you know it's, it's fun.
Like I got a 30 year olddaughter who's good friends with
the Johnson boys and They'vegot a five month old baby, so
I'm a grandfather.
And then I got another daughterwho's 18 Could it be a senior
in high school?
And kind of seeing if I can gether to go to Florida State.

(51:55):
So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Congrats.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yeah, man it's all good so.
I apologize for jumping in late.
I've got an eight-year-oldmother who who had knee
replacement surgery and shecalled me and was bitching a
moment that the nurse won't giveher her medication.
So I had to go over there andtalk to them and just you know
she's getting out of thereFriday Because she got the rehab
facility.
So which is?

(52:20):
It's really not a rehabfacility, more like a psych ward
.
Man.
You go in there, just the smellof urine and people is just in
here.
Get you people wandering aroundthe halls and diapers.
It's like Asking, if I go, thisis a rehab or is this?
You know once over the cookiesthat she started laughing
because, oh, we got a little bit, so that's alright, whatever.

(52:42):
So, yeah, she'll be home Friday, so she'll be able to do.
She got her insurance qualifiedher for Giving her a home
health care person for fourhours and then they're gonna
provide her transportation to dophysical therapy three or five
days a week.
So that's good.
So she'll be happy when she'sup.

(53:04):
She's a knee but she's very.
She doesn't drive but she livesat home.
She's very independent.
So good for her, you know, buthaving a mother that doesn't
drive, any time she needs to gosomewhere, it's like call me an
Uber or come pick me up.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
The real, the real questions you bet over.
Fsc was a ten and a half.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
I take the under.
What are we thinking?
I mean, it's all gonna comedown to week one, right, let's
go set the ticket.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
You know it's funny.
I was watching Paul Feinbach,which I really I was your first.
I don't like, but the guy seemsto have like a lot of inside
information.
He thinks he thinks for us toend up in the SEC.
But he also said that he thinksLSU is gonna win the national

(53:53):
championship.
Yeah, so I guess the key forFlorida State is, if you don't
win that game you know, win thatgame, make it competitive and
make it close Then they'll haveto, you know, run the table and
win the ACC.
But if there's a chance thatthey'll play Clemson twice,

(54:15):
because this is the first yearthat they're gonna have just one
division in the ACC, so FloridaState and Clemson are or the
same division.
They always play each other, sothey it's conceivable that the
two teams will play each othertwice.
But you know, just depends on Idon't know how good my auntie's
gonna be the shooter.
My auntie's a really good jobrecruiting.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
Yeah, I don't believe in Miami.
I mean, come on, like everyyear, it's all the hype and then
they trot out there and lose tomiddle Tennessee State like
yeah, I know, I know, but they,but they still freaking.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
You know top five, or top five, top ten recruiting
class every year.
You know, I just you know.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
I, you know it's funny, those, those preseason
rankings I mean the honest toGod, the only preseason rankings
I believe in our collegebasketball business somehow are
like always right everyone kindof.
Again.
Yeah, yeah, no one's talkingabout Louisville right now and
like I don't even know anythingabout Louisville, but you know

(55:16):
they don't play from seven anddon't play Florida State and
they're probably gonna win today.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
They have the easiest interesting.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Talk about a nice talk about a nice draw the
schedule.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Yeah, well, that's not that's all it takes.
Sometimes is like they're like.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Yeah, I don't know, I think if you over, I think.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
I believe I think Mike Morville is Was the reason
why I'll give you a pectin I getreally fast.
He was the offensivecoordinator for Todd Graham.
It was a garbage head coach,but like their offense was nasty
.
They recruited a lot of goodplayers.
They recruited Um DJ Foster,who was a really good running

(55:56):
back.
They had a really good widereceiver, jalen strong.
Their quarterback was more oflike a gay manager guy.
I think Jordan Travis is abetter athlete, but I see that
same like gay management, passthe ball around, don't throw it
into trouble.
But like, let your playmakersreally take hold.
And like, damn those offensesthat early 2010.

(56:20):
So like 2010, 11, 12, 13, 14,15 or whatever they were good
and when he went to Memphis, Iwas like he's gonna be good
there.
And then when he left Memphis,I was like he's gonna be good
there.
Like he just has just continuedto win and I think that's
awesome.
Like I think Florida State isone of those iconic, like they
gotta be good.
I'm paying attention.
Like if Florida State is good,I'm watching that game.

(56:42):
Like if there's nobody else onand Florida State's top 10 and
they're playing somebody, I'llprobably Change the channel to
that game.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Yeah, I missed the days when Florida and Florida
State would play that last gameof the year and they'd both be
in the top 10.
One or both of them would bevying for the national
championship and it was justkind of sad.
The last couple of years, youknow, I went to.
I went to the Florida FloridaState game.
I don't know about three, fouryears ago.
Florida State was bad andFlorida was Okay, but it was

(57:14):
just amazing to see, to see thestadium not full, and I'm not
talking about dope, I'm talkingabout Florida Field.
I just I couldn't believe thatthat stadium was not full, but
you know, I mean it was prettyempty when I went up there.
This maybe.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Oh God, that was really empty for a while there.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
But I was like this, is it, you know what?

Speaker 5 (57:33):
What normal has done really well.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Is he's got the one-two punch in not only
recruiting but in the transferportal man, he's just killing it
.
And you know they.
You know they always kind ofrate the recruiting class.
But I think what's moreimportant is if you know if they
could somehow have a weightedscale.
You know combining the, theportal, because you know the
portal is probably moreimportant because you got guys

(57:56):
that are going to come in andplay right away, because most of
those guys are, you know,juniors and seniors transferring
from somewhere else, whereasyou know the high schoolers
they'd always be like you knowthey're like you know they're
like.
You know they're like you knowit's like.
You know the high schoolersthey always seem like they need
at least a year.
Well, you got some guys thatyou know going to play right
away, but Norville's doing akickass job Making us relevant

(58:18):
again, and you know people areexcited and tele-hasty.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
So Harry, I got a question for you.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Yeah, buddy.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Who finishes higher FSU in the ACC or Arsenal in the
Prim?

Speaker 1 (58:34):
I think.
I think going to be the topfour is my prediction.
I'm not going to say FloridaState.
School to the national team.
I'm not going to say thatArsenal is going to win the
league, because I got burnedlast year claiming that Arsenal

(58:55):
is going to win the league.
Guys, you guys have that onrecording and you guys remind me
constantly of that.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Ever since the guarantee, how many points did
Arsenal drop?
We got to look that up.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
I tell you what, when I was in.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Orlando and I touched the trophy.
You guys just laugh it.
Oh my god, he jinxed it.
He touched the trophy man andthen they signed.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Georgino that same week.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
You remind me of that all the time too, hey how
Chelsea do this year.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
This year they won the summer league.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
They won a trophy.
Yeah, they won a trophy.
That's a big one.
That's a big one, right.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
No, not really.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
I really think we might see like a Chelsea Arsenal
in the quarterfinals ofChampions League.
Oh wait, a minute, never mind,I retract that last statement.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
You know who I can't wait to see in the quarterfinals
United States women's nationalteam.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Oh god, oh, no, boys, let's talk about that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
We'll save that for another part.
Is that a new coach?

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
What the hell happened to that guy?
One win, three draws.
They scored four goals, andthree of them were against South
Korea, was it?

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
that bad.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Yeah, they scored four goals in four games plus 30
minutes of overtime, so theyfinished averaging less than a
goal a game.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
So take away.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
I'll tell you why they got eliminated.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
No heart.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Number one they're old.
They're old.
They try to mix it up withyoung players, but you had a lot
of players in their 30s.
I think we can all agree that a35-year-old woman is like a
50-year-old man when it comes toprofessional.
No, seriously.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
What about Tom Brady?
What about Tom Brady?
I?

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
don't mean that to be sexist or anything, or I'm just
saying that a man men canmaintain their strength longer
than a woman Fucking blue hairthere.
Did you see her corner kicks?
Did you see her corner kicks?
She kicked two of them in theside net she kicked two in the

(01:01:32):
side net.
She didn't even reach thesix-yard box.
Why was she on the team?
Why was she in the game?
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Harry.
They were on the team becausethey broke her to deal.
This was I was telling somebodyI did not wake up at 5am.
I should have because I was onvacation but people were staying
with here.
They were up at 5am, they hadchampagne out.
I was like dude, I can't dothat.
But I think those stars JulieErz Rapinoe, alex Morgan, all

(01:02:03):
those girls broke her to dealand be like I'm still coming
back After they won.
They were like I get a freeride now.
This was that free ride.
I think that attitude and thehunger was gone.
We've already proven ourselves.
They're like, kind of like.
When Jordan wanted to go playbaseball, it was like Jordan,

(01:02:25):
you're not a good baseballplayer.
They're like well, we'll takeyou.
I think you've done so much forthe game, which they probably
have.
They're like well, we want youon this mantle again.
But, mike, it's your ass kicked.
And they got their ass kicked.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Yeah, like it wasn't close, and the thing that's most
bothersome for me is theinfluence that they have on the
young players, and I don't thinkthat's a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
I think you want that .
You want to inspire the nextgeneration and losing like that
will probably inspire the girlsthat didn't get to them or women
that didn't get to make theteam because of the people they
chose to put in the team overthem that were like you know, I
really should have been on thisteam, not a 40 year old woman
who probably should not be onthis team and blow the penalty

(01:03:13):
and be the captain of the teamand laugh about it and walk away
and just talk about the captain.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
First of all, the coach is not.
American, I thought she was,the coach is not American and in
that game that they lost toSweden, do you guys realize you
only made two subs the entiregame.
That game went an overtime.
I don't know how many startersthey have there in 30s and you
make two subs Terrible.
That's not good when you'reallowed to have five because,
remember, you get that extra subovertime.

(01:03:40):
So and Alex Morgan wasinvisible throughout the
tournament.
She's a show.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Yeah, she was.
I mean, she came in, she wasthe favorite to score in every
game, and I don't think she evengot close.
She looked good though.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
She looked good.
She looked good, she playedwell.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
The only person I thought that played well that's
been on that team for a whilewas Julie Hertz.
She was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Actually I can't say anyone on the team was awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
She had like, she had like the grit, like she wanted
to win.
She wanted to be there.
Everyone else not so much.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
You just felt like there just was a lot of ulterior
motives out there, uh-huh, likethat was the whole qualifying
thing and like you know what,maybe it takes someone like
those girls to stand up and doit, but like they had to earn
the mantle to do it and, likeI'm just looking at, this from I
played soccer for 20 years,Like I played all the way from
four years old through.

(01:04:40):
I didn't play, I wasn'tscholarship in college and I
wasn't walk on, but like Iplayed intervals played up.
So like I know the game, like Idon't follow the professional
game as closely but like I cantell when people are not over
there prime, but like justneeding to let the next
generation kind of do theirthing and like there are

(01:05:02):
starters on that team, Ishouldn't be starters.
Well, yeah, he drinks the WonderJuice and maybe he's
rejuvenated now he's dating, uh,Cristiano Ronaldo's older
girlfriend or something likethat.
So he's he's boxed head or thebox man, he's gonna.
He's gonna be a happy guy cometo fall, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
And you see the money he's gonna make when he when he
I guess Fox hired him.
They're paying him a ridiculousamount of money.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Yeah, it's like an under contract More than players
, I think is that happening?

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Because I don't.
It's not this season, right.
He gets like a gap year, Likeit starts next year.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Because, Fox.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
I really like Greg Olson.
I mean, greg Olson did a greatjob with the Super Bowl and he
was he's.
Everyone seems to like him, soI don't know what they're going
to do.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Yeah, but if it's Tom Brady and Tom Brady is like I
want that seat, they're going togive it to him.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
Yeah, I mean he's getting into ownership and stuff
.
Now I don't know if that is asfar as it's just diversifying.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
He's doing okay.
He's doing okay, he'll be fine,yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Tell me about the ownership stuff.
I did not hear that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
He bought us talking Birmingham.
Was that a championship team,Harry Birmingham FC?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
I don't know who, what team, I don't know what
league that team is in.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
We bought that, and then why?

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
are all these football?

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
guys buying in the championship, aren't they in the
championship Second division?

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
Those are two different things.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
I guess he's following the Reynolds McElaney
script and if he watches, boughtinto something too.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Oh, by the way, rex, we are Rex in season two, I
think starts in September.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
I haven't even watched that show.
I need to sit down and watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Oh, you got to watch it because season two is coming
out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Now that Ted Lasso is over.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Yeah, it's Ted Lasso, but real life.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Well, part of Ted Lasso was fictional, that was.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Well, you guys think I hear rumors that might be a
spin off.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
They're going to.
I mean, there's just too muchmoney there to be made.
With what beard and Roy, yeah,something.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Yeah, I'd like to see a Roy spinoff.
Just really just call the show.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
He's a great actor I don't reminds me of, like the
new Jason Statham, kind of likeI could see him being at so many
action thrillers.
Now he's just that Blue collar.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
He could also play a good villain too, you know.
Yeah, right, Not that you knowhe can do that central or middle
eastern.
Look so he could.
He could get away being a southyou know grows here long and be
a South American cartel guy.
He could probably do it all,you know.

Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
And it's a stretch, but oh, harry, is that what
you're doing?
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Have you cut it yet?

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Mike, mike, I was the lettuce, my cartel opportunity
passed me by so no, did you cutit?
Did I cut my hair?

Speaker 5 (01:08:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
I got her cut but.

Speaker 5 (01:08:41):
Rock it on.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Party in the back.
Yeah, man, keep on rocking inthe free world man.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Yeah, that's a.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
When it, when it's wet, it's like Not a foot below
my neck.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
So do you shake it off like in slow motion?

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Well, what I do, know what, what I actually do.
I get out of the shower and Ijust I do the shake, and then I
Do a quick brush, and then I dothe shake, and then I I got this
kind of wet hair gel spraything.
You know and you know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
It's like a tasty.
Whatever it is.
I know your camera's a littlegrainy on my computer, but it's
coming in strong.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
Great podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Now this, this is the look I'm going to look at.
That I've been going for is theMel Brooks Lethal weapon.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
One, two, three look that is a bright room and a
bright shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
It's a Florida State, banders America get America
shirt on.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
America, united States, women's national got a
little got a little Beatles.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
that here, yeah, we bear back somewhere, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:10:16):
There's just flexing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Just for you guys.
He pales starts Saturday.
Yep, we start predictions.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
When does when does Chelsea and Arsenal play?

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Good Play, liverpool open season right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Chelsea.
No, arsenal plays nottinghamforest big, big matchup on
Saturday morning at 730.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Are we going to a pot ?
Are we going to a pub Saturday?
I?

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Can go Chelsea, liverpool 1130 on Sunday yeah,
I'm gonna go to I.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Met a guy on Charlotte and he grew up an Hour
and a half from Liverpool, sohe's like die hard, you got the
calf tat going Scouts.
I was with him and yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
I was with him and his dad.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
His dad played amateur for South Park Rangers,
by the way.
I was with him and they went upthe champions like it was wild.
We were in a.
Andrew might know this, butthere's jackalob jacks out in
Plaza Midwood.
Yeah boy, it was in soggy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
When you guys start, guys think Florida State's going
the ACC or the big 10.
I'm coming at the point rightnow.
I don't care, just kidding, Ijust want to date.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Why would they not go to the SEC?
What, what is?
How do you miss?

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
so here's what things going on with the SEC is.
So SEC and the ACC are bothpartnered with ESPN, so ESPN
really, I mean they have controlover kind of both media Markets
, right, or both packages, andso they don't.
They have a great deal with theACC and it doesn't really make
sense for them to take a teamfrom the ACC and Plug them in

(01:12:08):
and pay them like they'realready getting a deal for
Florida State.
Why would you, you know, takethem out of there, break it up
and then pay them so much moremoney To play in a different
conference?
It just doesn't make sense forthe, for ESPN, and I think
that's what's happening rightnow.
It's ESPN's kind of holdingback and they have but the.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
I Watched Florida State's president do his Speech
or interview whatever on YouTubeand he's basically saying that
the he has an equal share.
I don't think the SEC does.
I think the SEC is the betterperforming teams get a better
piece of the pie.

(01:12:47):
So no, that's what.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
Florida's.
It's equal share.
Yeah, Vandy gets the same cut.
That's what's such a great dealabout it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Yeah, but the SEC's got a much better deal than the
ACC.
The SEC.
Locked into a shitty.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
And they did that because that's when they lost
Maryland.
So they really were at thatpoint.
Maryland leaves to go to thebig 10 and the ACC is like we're
locked down.
We're like we're making thisagreement that all these con,
all these teams go stay togetherwith a science TV deal.
We're gonna get this thing done.
They did it under a pressure,whereas SEC's be able to

(01:13:23):
negotiate, get a new deal, samewith the big 10.
They just knew no, she ended upa new deal.
That's why they have moreplaying power right now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
You know, I mean clearly it's, it's the two big
leagues that I see the big 12being a second tier leg.
My prediction, just you know,no, no, educated, no, inside
information is I could see thebig 10 and the SEC just pulling
out of the NCA all together andjust creating their own league,

(01:13:57):
kind of like a semi pro league.
I could really see thathappening, at least with college
football, so they kind of holdthe cars.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
What's gonna happen with like big 12 basketballs?
They're starting to amass likeAll the teams they can find.
Like they're going afterGonzaga, they're going after you
, con, yeah, and if this a cityshit goes down, they're going
after Duke.
They're gonna start amassingthat stuff.
And like what I was, what Iheard and saw and talked to

(01:14:30):
people, what I trust is that ifthey get enough basketball teams
, they're gonna renegotiate acompletely different basketball
TV deal only and like that'swhere, like you play college
basketball, like During thisleague period and that's it, and
like everything else andeventually it's going to become
a huge league.
What's going to be?

(01:14:51):
A huge league of like the bestof the best and like you're,
they're gonna be.
So Kentucky's in a weird spot.
Kentucky's like I want to be Inthe SEC for football, but I'm
like whoa, they would neverleave.
I don't think they would everbreak off.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
No, and that's why the SEC, if they were to add
teams, they'd add North Carolina, they'd add Virginia.
They had basketball schools tobalance out the basketball
element.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
you know which is.
I mean Florida State's a prettygood basketball school.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
I know that not recently.
Yeah, it's some good yearsright.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Yeah, they've been through the last five years, but
last year they just had way toomany injuries.
They just couldn't overcome it.
Yeah, Miami runs, florida, Imean, or you're finding me fate
losses in the early the yearagainst Against the, you know,
the Montana State Junior Collegeschools, right, corey?

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
I'm telling you that big 12 basketball TV deal thing
is a that's a real deal.
Yeah like they're going tostart plucking big East teams.
They're going to start finding,like the I mean they're gonna
do that.
They're gonna be like okay,we're gonna package this and
send it to TV and like what'sthis worth?
And that's why they were likeso the difference between the

(01:16:06):
Pac-12 Was like 20 million andlike the big 12 was like 31
million.
But if, like, you had a goodbasketball team, much like,
they're not there.
The thing is, there's not evena guarantee that, like, some of
those teams make it in like yeah.
Like a few basketball team, likeno, like they'd be, like no,
you're not in here because we'retotally break.

(01:16:27):
It's gonna become like big Eastbasketball is like this thing
and like big 12 football is thatthing.
And it's like Dude, if yourbasketball team could pull in 15
, 20 million on its own, it'slike now you're talking, it's
like you're getting 31 fromeverything else and you get
another kicker of 10 or 15, likenow we're at that 45 range and

(01:16:50):
it's like this is starting tomatter.

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
But you gotta know who you are at that point, but
dude.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
I don't know, man, if ACC breaks up like yeah,
virginia's going, but like I'lltake Louisville, fuck yeah,
that's.
That's what I'm wondering.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
Like very how, how, how binding is this agreement
that they're, they're holding onto you right now?
That's collective or whateverwhere they call it.
It's the.
Magnificent it's not that, no,it's, it's.
What is the ACC agreement?

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
the problem with the, the ACC contract is if Florida
State or anybody, clemson, ifanybody leaves, they have to pay
the, the ACC, like ridiculousamount of money, something like
300 million dollars over threeyears.
It's like this.
We have billion dollars to getout.

(01:17:40):
So you know, I imagine thatFlorida State, behind the scenes
, is Negotiating with the, withthe big 10 and the sec, trying
to work something out.
That's my guess.
Um, and I think that's probablythe thing that's hold, that's
stopping Clemson and FloridaState just getting automatic
invitations because the other,the whatever conference, takes

(01:18:02):
those two schools and I thinkthe two schools are for a
package deal, so that's going tocost, you know, whatever
conference takes them in, it'sgoing to cost them, you know,
like five, six hundred milliondollars a year for a few years.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
So yeah, but Costs of doing business if you're the
big 10 and you creep into SouthCarolina.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Florida that is.
That is a Howitzer across theback and that's uh, you can't
even the only thing, the seccould do, then is take Notre
Dame like there is nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
And that's and that's why I think the sec would step
up and take Florida State andClemson to make to block the big
10.
They don't want the big 10 tocome in the south, like they
don't want them to be in theirterritory.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
And they let harbaugh do his summer camps down at
florida.
They're in about Clemson andFSU go to the big 10.
That'll be wild, I mean thatwould be absolutely.
They go in and take la and theytake florida.
Have I seen this?

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Yeah, they would have .
They would have two hugemarkets and, Um, that would
probably open the door for Miami.
Who knows?
You know, I it's.
It's Miami is interestingbecause their football has
sucked lately and then all of asudden their basketball team
goes to the final four Classicand and they're.
You know, like we were talkingearlier, you know they, they do
a great job recruiting, just youknow they on the field.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
But yeah, what are your thoughts on your hated
rival I?
I we've played that guy acouple times.
I wasn't overly impressed withhim.
I looked back at his FIU days.
He did a garbage job.
When you go look up his recordat FIU, he was terribly got

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fired.
So I was like, okay, he went tothe Nick Saban School of
Rehabilitation and became theiroffensive line coach for a
minute, recruited a couple offive-star guys and then I was
blown away.
Organs like hell.
Yeah, sign them up.
He brought him on.
He put together a great O-line.

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Andrew and I talked about thiswhat's the most important
position on your team?
In my opinion, it's O-linetwice on Sunday, doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
He also got Justin Herbert too.
A Herbert was an Oregon guythrough and through right just
that yard.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
He was not highly recruited yeah, not highly
recruited.
Got very lucky.
He took the first opportunity,just like Willie Taggart.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
Yeah, willie Taggart, I'm saying Mario's barely
Willie, though Willie was justoh, I can't, that dude was way
too ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
He was over his head.
Yeah, I mean just to look onhis eye, mario to me is a little
over his head.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
Yeah, last year was bad.
It was bad.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
That's not good.
He picked up and they werehighly.
I remember a year ago I movedto Arizona and, like everybody,
could not stop talking aboutMiami.
Josh got us this, josh got usthat.
All these guys, all these guysand holy.
They felt flat on their facebadly.
It was like can you imagine?

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Think of another school.
I'd put Oklahoma and Miamiprobably in that same breath.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
He lose to him football last year, that was
like a really embarrassing lossat home, both those Miami middle
Tennessee, middle Tennessee,yeah, crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Can't do that, can't do that.
You know what?

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
If it wasn't for A&M upstaging them, I think Miami
would have been one of thebiggest disappointments last
year.
But A&M took the cake.
I mean, jimbo is gonna be underso much pressure this year to
win.
It's all or nothing right now.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
I think he should mail it in dude, that 95 of
another contract.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
I mean they literally they cannot buy him out.
They are stuck with him.

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
That's beautiful, that is supply and demand at its
finest.
And they're just like yousigned a back and like somehow
A&M just cannot get out of theirown way.
They remind me so much ofTennessee and like I think
Tennessee got so lucky.
Andrew and I talked about thisall the time Like who was it at?

(01:22:23):
Ucf.
That was good.
It's very clear now who it was.

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
Yeah, Josh Hypel, Everyone's like Scott Frost this
.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Scott Frost, Scott Frost, Scott Frost, oh my God
Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Frost Right yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
God Josh Hypel, oh my God Josh Hypel, like that's.
There's always a mystery manbehind the curtain and he's the
real guy.
Mike Norvell was that guy thereand it was like, oh my God,
todd Graham walks on water andlike how about this offense.
Like this offense is prettygood.
Josh Hypel was Mike Norvell.

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They were stuck under badcoaches.
They were good.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
Yeah, and at the time I mean they literally hired
Danny White, the UCFAD, and hejust goes and grabs UCF football
coach and everyone was likewhat is he doing?
Like he's not gonna get anybodygood, like he's just gonna take
this guy and then air raid,offense and the SEC work you
surprised what those guys know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
You know they see they watch practices, they know
the players, they know thefamilies, they, they know they
they probably operate and watchthem deal with donors like head
on.
They're like fine, do you wannago talk to this guy?
Do you want me to talk to thisguy?
Like how are we gonna handlethis guy?
And like Hypel must?
Bob Stoops probably just waslike look, this is how we do it

(01:23:40):
and let's you know this is-.
Oklahoma's Joe is right now.
He was a sticky.
Oh yeah, think about that,think of think about us.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Brent Vendables is not the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
He's on.
I think he's in way over hishead.
Yeah, he's another one.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
He's a great deco-ordinator though Great
coordinator.
Because what Dabbo knew, thatDabbo knew that he was like I
need a guy that I can bring inthat is not gonna take my job
and like I don't think Dabbo'sworried about people taking his
job which oddly enough, everysingle one of the coordinators
that have left that Clemson treehave been.

Speaker 5 (01:24:18):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Bad yeah, Tony Ellie.

Speaker 5 (01:24:22):
Jeff Scott oh, it's Virginia Soap's fruit right now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
They're gonna be so bad Morris.

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
Yeah, yeah, these USF , that was terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
All of them have been bad.
That's like four or five guyshired from the tree and I'm like
that's not, that's not good.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
What about your Georgia Tech?

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
David's fruit.
Believe me, yeah, I don't knowwhat we're doing, man.
We just we fight, we had to getrid of Jeff Collins, and then
you know, we just bring in theinterim guy, we win five games,
just shock everybody.
We thought we were gonna beawful, and that's our guy now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
So Tech sticking with the wishbone.

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
No, we haven't been running that.
The Paul Johnson retired backwhen I was in school.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
You should have been running that the whole time.
I thought that was a beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
It was the only thing that worked, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Sometimes that's what works.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
I mean, it was honestly, we ran.
It's a perfection.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
When you run the wishbone.

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
Yeah, so Brent Key.
He's a alum, he playedoffensive line at Georgia Tech,
so he's got the roots.
He's a decent recruiter too.
But I don't, I don't know.
I mean we're just getting soleft behind right now.
I mean Georgia has completelyjust they're in a different
stratosphere and that's theproblem.
Right, when you're rival, likeyou're in state, right, I mean

(01:25:46):
they don't even consider that'show bad it is.
Right now they even considerGeorgia Tech a rival because the
gap is so big now.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
I have to shame Beamer.
I thought dude.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
There's no way.
I don't know if I believe inShane Beamer, yet I think he's
got.
He's got it back enough thisyear.
That was just getting hot theend of the season, I think he's.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
I think he's good.
I think that was a smart pluck.
I will tell you, though.
I will tell you this NicoManion and Spencer Rattler went
to the same high school therewere a lot of important North
Scottsdale, very plugged intothe U of A, very plugged into
ASU, when neither one of thosetwo schools went after him hard,

(01:26:29):
I was like that's kind of weird, it's got an attitude problem
man Arizona State Arizona likeyou're never gonna get that five
store quarterback.
It's just not gonna happen, butyou might pull up DJ Yuliunga,
lalee and Landon if you'reOregon State, right, it's like,
well, maybe that might give us achance.

(01:26:49):
Dude, they didn't even thinkabout it.
They were like, no, it was ahard no.
And so when they played welllast year, I was like Shane
Beamer is a wizard.
Because Lalee couldn't reallyget to him.
I was like, wow, like if he'snot gonna listen to him or
somebody's not listening tosomebody, he's not playing the
playbook, he's not doing thingsoff script, like I don't know

(01:27:12):
how Shane Beamer got to him,because he's shellacked.
Tennessee's defense was bad.
I think Clemson's defense wasstill pretty good though.

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
Yeah, those were two big wins, huge To finish the
season, Huge wins, the day ofthe year.
I mean and that's anothersituation for Virginia Tech is
sitting there thinking like howdo we not have Shane Beamer?
How do we miss this?

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
Great dude, great point.
Yeah, geez, I mean again areyou too proud?
Are you too proud to be likewe're better?
Because I think Shane Beamerwas an assistant coach, Was he a
coordinator?

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
Yeah, yeah, he was a coordinator.
Yeah yeah, but-.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Maybe he had multiple positions.
I heard he was a tight ends guy.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
He was a tight ends guy.
He's a good recruiter.
Like that's the thing is.
You gotta get the guy that canrecruit.
That can relate to the playersyou know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
But not only did he get Spenser to come, that's a
big get, for South Carolina wasin the Gwagmeyer, they were in
the Marsh, they were in theSwamp, they were.
What were they doing?
They had Will Mustchamp, theyhad yeah, they had bad coach
after bad coach after bad coach.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
Yeah, he was the assistant head coach at Oklahoma
, so he was a coordinator forthe assistant Assistant.
Yeah, he was Jordan's assistant.

Speaker 5 (01:28:32):
Right so he was also assistant.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Oh well, kirby.
Kirby was a nuclear weaponwaiting to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
I can't believe we like if and Georgia schedule was
playing up for this likeGeorgia's gonna be right there
at the end of the playoffbecause they don't really play
anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
They gotta go I think any bet outside of Georgia is
yeah, georgia should be JokeGeorgia schedule.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
That's an imbed joke of a schedule.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
Well in defense.
They were supposed to playOklahoma and then the SEC
stepped in and was like we'resaving that for next year, so
they got rid of the hardest-.
I understand Georgia, notHuffins, game.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
I saw a stat.
I should've sent it to you.
It said the amount of I'm gonnabutcher this.
I wish I could get it right.
But there was only like two orthree SEC teams that played more
than like five power, fiveschool, something absurd.
You're like that can't be true.
And then you look at it andyou're like, oh my God, it's

(01:29:35):
true.
Yeah, they only played eightconference games.
There was literally LSU A&M andlike Mississippi State.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
I mean-.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
For the only teams that were playing five power
teams.

Speaker 4 (01:29:49):
Kentucky's one of the teams that's fighting for that.
Keep it at eight, don't go tonine conference games, because I
remember the COVID season weplayed 10 SEC games and it about
killed us.
It's just, and with Kentucky,like we're just trying, like
we'll play cupcakes.
Right, we got Louisville, so westart the season, we're playing

(01:30:11):
Ball State accurate.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
They're gonna be tough dude.
If you win that game, that'llactually give you a strength of
schedule.
But again you're sealing myceiling.
Again we got.
You got Georgia.
We got people above us.
10 games is about as good asyou could ever do.
I don't know if there's evergonna be a day where Kentucky
goes 12 and no, 12 and no.
You're saying okay, we're gonnabe everybody, we're not gonna

(01:30:35):
misstep whatsoever, but hold on,I want one last shot at this.
We're playing on the road inStarkville.
If we get out of there, arizonawill be four and zero.
Yeah, we'll lose the next threeor something, because I think
we play five or six ranked teamsin a row, but there's a very

(01:30:56):
real shot at four and zerositting in there and I wanna
know what this Mississippi Stateteam looks like.
Rip Mike Leach, one of the best.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
Oh yeah, that's the situation where I think they're
just gonna take a step back.
They got to.
I mean, they just went with theinterim guy.
I know their quarterback's backWill's, what's his name.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Will Rogers, he's good, will Rogers, he's good,
but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Georgia might finish their regular season having only
played one or two teams thatare ranked in top 25.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean they're at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Harry, like you're like conceivably at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
I'm gonna show you that, I'm gonna read the
schedule to you and you guysjust count with your fingers how
many teams, how many of theseteams you think might, will
finish in the top 25 at the endof the year UT, martin, ball
State, south Carolina, uab,auburn, kentucky, vanderbilt,
florida, missouri, ole Miss,tennessee and Georgia Tech.
They completely avoid Alabama,lsu, a&m.

Speaker 5 (01:32:03):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
I mean, there's no secret that, harry, they do.
You protect your own when youhave an asset like the SEC
values viewers, they value goodteams.
There's no conceivable way theywant to throw Georgia to the
gauntlet whatsoever.
They don't want.
They don't want to run the riskof having a couple 10-win teams

(01:32:27):
that are trying to duke it out.
Dude, they want juggernauts.
They want like oh, this teamhas guys over that year.
Georgia's like oh, we've onlygiven up seven defensive
touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
I'm like yeah, oh yeah.
And there it was Georgia versusBama.
They had it in the SEC and thenthey had it rematch in the
championship game, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Right, it's a very shrewd.
I wish every conference, everyconference, went to eight games.
I'm like, give me that freakingfour.
We would four wins a year.
Give me that.
I'm like, oh, all we gotta dois take care of business on two
or three.
You know, we're a touchdownfavorite maybe a coin flip,
maybe upset somebody.

(01:33:08):
I'm like that's eight or ninewins a year every year and
that's not like a lot here.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
Did you see this?
Apparently the SEC wants to gettogether and revamp and relook
at the college football playoffexpansion for next year?

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Oh sure they do Like now they're, we're seeing all
the moving chairs.

Speaker 4 (01:33:26):
They're seeing the big 10 load up the big 12, you
know.
And now they're getting worriedthat their spots are gonna get
taken.
They're gonna try to shrink theplayoff again.
Dude ready for this we'rerecording right now.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
I bet you there's gonna be a year or out.
Of the 12 teams, six of themare from the SEC.

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
Yes, yeah, half.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
I can see that happening.

Speaker 5 (01:33:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Right, hold on, I'll spell them out for you too.
Alabama's undefeated.
Somehow, they don't play.
Oh, we don't have achampionship game anymore.
Oh, that's funny.
Alabama doesn't play Georgia,great, okay.
So Alabama and Georgiaunder-feated.
Lsu's a one loss team.
Tennessee's a one loss team.
Now you're sitting at four,don't you think who's gonna
sneak in?
Who's gonna be the first 10-winteam in?

(01:34:09):
Oh, it's gonna be Ole Miss, wholost to Alabama and lost to
Georgia.
Oh, they're undefeated.
Oh, this, that guess what itgets gonna get worse.
The big 10 is gonna be likewell, we have four teams in
there too.
Ohio.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
State's undefeated.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
Michigan's undefeated Is that games or they'll be
like oh, we'll still play thatgame in the regular season, but
one of them will be undefeatedand one of them will have one
loss.
Penn State will be there, scwill be there.
You'll have.
Don't sleep on Washington, likeplease don't?

Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
Well, here's the thing about the big 10, and this
is what they gotta make surethey do they gotta split up
Michigan, ohio State, penn Statefrom being the same division,
cause that's been screwing themup for so long that those three
are all playing each other.
They have balanced theirdivision.
It's so unbalanced.
They all like whoever gets outof that mess gets the big 10
championship.
And then they're playing Purdue, or they're playing

(01:34:59):
Northwestern, or they're playingnobody killing them in the big
10 championship.
A big 10 championship gamehasn't mattered in forever.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
Yeah, yeah, true.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
But, guys, is there a day where we're looking at a 12
team playoff and 10 of them arefrom the SEC and the big 10?
Cause that's pushing it too.
I'm like there's no chance.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
I think the big 10 is now it's balancing, like I feel
like with they're gonna have tofigure out something.
Obviously, the big thing inhere is the scheduling, the
flights, like trying to go crosscountry.
They're gonna have to dosomething with the division in
the West and they're gonna haveto go out there and do like you
know those guys will play a roadtrip or something.
They're gonna do whatever theycan to make it easier for those

(01:35:43):
teams to do well in theirconference to get those spots in
the playoff.

Speaker 5 (01:35:49):
But, then what?

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
There's gonna come a day where you're gonna have
again, we're gonna go back tothe old BCS model.

Speaker 5 (01:35:55):
It's like you've got oh, please no.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
And, thank God, we're at least at a playoff.
What if you have fourundefeated teams?
That hasn't happened yet.
I'm like that could happen Now.

Speaker 4 (01:36:05):
Well, I think what happened, like now you're saying
with the playoff, is you've gotyou kind of siphoned every.
I mean the worst thing aboutthe playoff is that it devalued
the New Year's Day.
Games Like the Rose Bowl didn'tmean anything unless it was a
playoff game and so it justfunneled everything in cultural
ball to these four spots and youwere just focused on those four

(01:36:25):
spots the entire season waitingfor those rankings to come out.
Who's gonna move up?
And it really.
We saw it Alabama, clemson,ohio State there were the same
players every year because theywere getting all the top level
recruits.
They were getting all the mediaattention all season.
That's the model that theycreated it.

(01:36:47):
At least with a 12 team playoffyou have more seats at the
table, more chance for an upsetor somebody slips in.
I mean the fact that TCU playedthe national championship game
last year is still crazy.
I mean they lost by a billion.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
It gives me hope.
I mean, there's hope.

Speaker 4 (01:37:05):
Yeah, but it gives hope though, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
So for a very huge Michigan guys.
They is families from justDetroit.
They love Michigan.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
I think TCU and Cincinnati in the last two years
have ruined it for a team, anon-traditional team, making the
playoff, because they've justtotally gotten embarrassed,
those two teams in the playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
I don't, harry.
Tcu still owned Michigan inthat game.
Like you, go back and watch thehighlights.
They had a nice buffer distance.
They were making the points.
I don't know, I don't think.
I don't think you can say theyowned them.

Speaker 4 (01:37:39):
I mean, michigan was literally.
What did they like?
They had two first and goalopportunities and got zero
points in the first quarter.
Like they were shootingthemselves in the foot.
They threw two pick sixes Likethey were shooting themselves,
like continuously you catch apick six, you still have to
score, yeah no, I mean TCU isthere to.
They capitalized for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
I thought that game was more Michigan losing the
game than TCU winning it,because that you know those
turnovers don't happen.
But yeah, that's football, youknow it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
Well, how's state shaking that kick with?

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
27 left.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
What are we saying right now?
What I mean?
We're sitting here saying Isthat?

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
you know?
The playoffs, all the playoffgame, the playoff game, the
semi-finals were great.
Yeah, they were energy games,they went down and then you just
go to the final and it's justthis shellacking.

Speaker 4 (01:38:33):
It was over the first five minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Yeah, I mean the that's happened in the last
couple of years.
49 valley.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
I were 40 clubs.

Speaker 4 (01:38:41):
Yeah, it's like 65 to seven or something.
It was crazy, yeah, no, I meanthat you're right, I mean the
two.
We had the two best semi-finalgames probably in in the playoff
history.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Yeah that'll house.
Take Clemson, though.
I went to that one in 2019 okay, yeah, that was a good one.
Okay, so Trevor Lawrence, dudeETN.
Jk Dobbins, I mean that was uh,that was a T Higgins, I think
was in that.
Chris Alave was in that.
Gary Williams yeah, gary Wilsonwas in that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
The solid Tampa was the best finals.
Christopher was there cookingburgers.
The parking lot.

Speaker 4 (01:39:22):
Alabama Clemson.
Yeah, that was the game wherewe were.
We should have bought.
We thought about it Like weshould have got tickets to the
game beforehand, before theythey got to the Alabama Clemson
Because this was before Clemsonhad won the championship.
This was their first one withthe Sean Watson right and those
tickets skyrocketed.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
What other one in the 80s?
But as far as you know current,you know what was amazing all
week is Just the traffic inTampa because yeah, everybody
I'm sitting in Alabama drove toTampa.
I mean it was just, it wascrazy.
You went out, you went outanywhere.
You went to downtown or youwent to Channel side or Dale

(01:40:05):
Maybury.
We all wore the strip clothes.
It was just, it was crazy.
It was like a, it was like awhole week on.
Yeah it really was.
It was just absolutely nuts.

Speaker 4 (01:40:15):
Yeah.
So I will never forget talkingto some Bama fans at the
tailgate and they were.
They were saying that they wereContemplating going to this
game or waiting and going to theplayoff game next year.
Like they, they think they'rein the playoff every year.
So, like they play in, like,hey, we'll wait and go the Rose
Bowl next year, we'll wait tillit's in Atlanta.

(01:40:37):
You know, like they, they havethis such level of ego and you
know, finally, that that armoris starting to take some some
battle wounds and starting toget Naps down a peg, I mean.
But last year they were whattwo plays away from being
undefeated.
You had the Tennessee fieldgoal, the, the drop pass that,

(01:40:58):
yeah, that Alabama should have,you know, converted to score.
And then, you know, theovertime lost the LSU.
I mean, they were back flosslast year.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Well, the year Florida State wanted I mean look
how, look how Alabama shouldhave been in that final.
Yeah, you know they, they trywhat like a 59 yard field.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
The guy returns in 180 yards yeah, yeah, best play
hey you know that was I mean.
If you're an eye, are the sameage or I might be a little bit
older, but I Can't think of ohbig that play more shot.

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
It was the most shocked I've ever been watching
a game, because that game meantso much.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
Yeah, but not only.
It'd be like if Ohio State likeat the peak of their power.
It would be like if what do youknow?

Speaker 5 (01:41:47):
we're going at it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
Someone's like I'm gonna kick a field.
What it was like.
This is to go to the nationalchampionship.
It was very clear yeah, prettymuch over a three for a chance
at three straight championshipsfor Bama.
In Auburn was ranked, I think,like number six or something in
the country.

Speaker 5 (01:42:02):
I mean, they were just on this like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Got out of a cannon here.

Speaker 4 (01:42:07):
Was that good First season?
Was that his first year there?
They do it in year one anotherguy.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
That was the guy behind the guy.
I remember Jean Chiswick.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
Yeah, who was his offensive?

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
coordinator, though it was like, I think, that UCF
Gus has got it.
Yeah they're gonna be it.
They're gonna be a player.

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
I mean, you see UCF on the label, but I'm like Dude,
big 12 now I mean they're inthe big boy conference.

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
Well, I think they're gonna have.
I think UCF reminds me a lot ofwhat ECU and Utah were very
competitive epic.
That's slightly lower tier.
Good coach like Gary patternpeople are like Gary Patterson
yeah, man, good guy.
And then he gets to the big 12.
It's like oh shit, yeah, likehe's, he's actually really good,

(01:43:00):
yeah.
And then like Kyle Whittingham,like good guy, yeah.
Urban Meyer yeah, he was adefensive coordinator for a
while and then he took his lumpsin the pack 12.
We're like oh shit, like oh,this guy's good.
I think Gus proved it Day oneright.
Like he took Nick Marshall, aGeorgia basketball player yeah,

(01:43:22):
document quarterback, and waslike hey, you got Trey Mason
behind you.
He's good.
And I don't know what's up withTrey now.
I hope the best for him.
I think he was yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
Bad things were happening for him, but they just
they figured out how to beatthat Alabama defense in that one
game.
They figured out that optionpass, spread, option offense and
cook Alabama couldn't figureout.
They couldn't stop it.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
I can't wait to see that.
I do you think 12 offenses likethere that's gonna be?
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:43:53):
that's gonna be exciting, man.
That's gonna be a I don't.
I don't it's hard to see itthat calm.
I mean.
I TC was the championship gamemaster or something they they
have proven that they can playon a level I guess.
But All those teams want to bethere like they all have that
drive to be in a big time andsome of them agreeing their
first chance at being in a powerfive.

(01:44:14):
So it's gonna be fun.
I mean it's gonna beinteresting.
They're gonna be competitivegames.
Like it's gonna be an excitingconference for sure, especially
with Oklahoma and Texas on theway out this year.
Everyone's gonna be done it forthem so hard.
Texas has these guy highexpectations that they do every
year.

Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
But how many times have we said that?

Speaker 4 (01:44:33):
Yeah, exactly.

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