Episode 33 - NFL Playoffs Divisional Round with Pittsburgh Steve - SportsBruvs

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
3, 2, 1.
Hello and welcome to SportsProves Episode 33.
Nfl Wild Card is set.
Damp paybuckineers moving on.
As we all expected, got thedivision around.
This week we have a new guest,steve Yinser from Pittsburgh.

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Come to talk.
All thanks, steelers, mikeTomlin.
What's gonna happen with him?
But as a ride of passage, as wealways start these shows with
new guests, we lead off with themost heartbreaking sports
moment of your life.
We relive it together.
Have you bring it up?
And what is your mostheartbreaking moment?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, given I was, you know, given five minutes to
determine my most heartbreakingyear, got to go.
There was Steelers Packers, butI don't know.
Penguins were on a run in2016-2017.
They had the original salarycap, back-to-back champions here
, but it's gotta be 2018.

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Losing that game with DannyKuznetsov down the ice Brutal.
I was there and wish I wasn't.
Yeah for going.
Current day stuff.
Steelers should have played onSunday.
They would have won.
That's all I'm saying.
Oh, so the weather's to blame?
Yeah, blame Mother Nature, newYork's governor, whoever you

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want to blame.
I mean, I think, if we wouldhave played Sunday under those
conditions, steelers run gamesbetter than the bills.
So, yeah, blame those softliberals.
Right, hatch up.
I guess Gotta blame the Libs.
They shut it down.
But you know, still, pittsburghRally.
They, you know, enjoyed aSunday of watching football,

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stress-free.
And then we rolled into Monday,martin Luther King day,
everyone pretty much had off and, you know, strolled into the
bars at one o'clock for Penguinscrack in home game and stayed
there for the Steelers game.
But you know, we all know howthat turned out.
There was a, there was a chance, there was hope, but not a

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reason.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
So I don't understand .
I heard Kenny Pickett was wasactive.
I was wondering why he didn'tplay, because they played the
right quarterback.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's what they did, okay, and I think you know
whatever audience is gonna beout there.
I'll just tell you right now.
I think everyone in Americaknows how I feel about Kenny
Pickett.
He ain't it.
Any one of us five guys couldhave done a better job at
quarterback than Kenny Pickettwould have.
So you know I think they rodethe hot hand, mason, you know he

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put together three, what threestraight weeks of really good
games, better than Kenny orMitch had done in the past two
years.
So I was all in favor of, youknow, mason starting and he
didn't have a bad game.
I mean, yeah, he had the twointerceptions or whatever, but
they did more than any of theothers could have.

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I mean, in a perfect world Benwould have just came back, but
age catches up to some people,not calm but Ben.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Tom Brady.
He was fun to watch.
Then you quit on us.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, speaking of Ben Ralfersberger, I just watching
the games this week, you seethese two prominent franchise
and the Packers and the Steelers, and they both went about it
different ways of the rebuild.
Right like the Steelers, theylet Ben write it out.
They didn't want to bring in ayoung guy when he was there and

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they kind of just got screwed ona bad draft.
Right like Kenny Pickett wasthe best guy available.
That draft class just wasn'tgood, yep.
And then the Packers, on theother hand, they're like screw
Aaron Rodgers what he thinks.
Same thing they did to BrettFarr.
They got Aaron Rodgers.
Right, we're gonna get a firstround quarterback and we're
gonna stash him for a little bit.
And that's what's amazing aboutthem is seeing them do it again

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and not like how do other teamsnot see that and think, okay,
you know, like, if we're gonnadraft and you know the back half
of the first round anyway, whydon't we stash one of these good
rookie quarterbacks, maybe takea shot on them when he falls to
us and then we'll just keepthem on reserve until whoever

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we've got you know the veteranis, you know steps away, retires
, leaves, whatever.
I mean.
It's set them up perfectly.
Their rebuild essentiallydidn't even happen.
I mean, it was the first fiveweeks of the season and then
they rebounded and then they'rein the playoffs.
Now they beat the Packers andthey're rolling crazy.
Yeah, I'll be honest.
In Pittsburgh, you know we beatthe Packers early in the season

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and you know you thought, okay,didn't feel great, but now
watching them play, you're likemakes us feel better about our
win, you know so did they go ontheir run immediately after the
Bucks beat them?

Speaker 1 (05:04):
was that when they started it?

Speaker 4 (05:06):
yes, but it was.
It was also Panthers, vikingsand then Bears to finish the
season.
But they did beat, you know,chargers, I think, with all
their guys.
And then they immediately wenton and beat Lions in Detroit and
then Chiefs after that.
Then they lost to the Giantsand the Bucks right, but they

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the lines on therollercoastering yeah, they beat
the lines on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
That was like their big moment of like, oh right,
crap, they give, the Packers arefor real.
And then they went down andthen they came back up, so yep.
I mean you can't be.
Yeah, dalton, tommy DeVito here, right, so I think that's you
still on the video the TommyDeVito game.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
That was legendary so did Jordan love by himself the
next two years, one year whenhe's not short one left on his
one left on this rookie deal,right?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I think Jordan love just got himself a max contract,
right.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I think so you beat Dallas in Dallas, I think one
game.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I mean, well, the playoffs.
They're in a rebuilding year,man, the expectation for them
was to be like a max contour.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
I mean, what if he goes out and throw three, three
picks next week, this week,whatever?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
but it's 49ers, so yeah, I mean can't follow that.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
That's been so yeah, I mean, that's what's, that's
what's tricky, right.
I mean, the Eagles are sayingthe same thing right now.
Did we give Jaylen Hertz a maxcontract at the wrong time?
Did we jump the gun?
Should we have waited and seenwhat another year of this looks
like?
I mean, I think in the NFL youjust got to get it, like if you
got a guy, you got to pay him,like that's just how it is.

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Otherwise, I mean, think aboutwhat the Ravens could have been
if they let Lamar walk right.
If they let Lamar Jackson getout of Baltimore.
It would have started this yearwith Huntley.
Well, right, I don't know, likeit's no, knock you back up
quarterback.
I mean, he's very, you know he.
I personally think Huntley isharder to play against for the

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Steelers than Lamar is.
Really what exactly?
That's a hot take, yeah, butweek 18.
I mean the Ravens had so manyguys benched and you know we're
reserving them, but every timewe play Huntley like he puts up
good numbers, he has good gamesagainst the Steelers.
So yeah, I don't think he's aquarterback.
You know, if I know he's doneat the end of the year, or his

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contracts at the end of the year, he's gonna be hot commodity.
Someone's gonna want him to, atthe very least, be their backup
, possibly a starter.
Well, that's high praise, for Imean, he's a pro bowler.
Right, he got a pro bowler.
Huntley?
Yeah, I don't think he's, Ithink it's.
It's a numbers game, right, youknow he's probably 34th on the

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on a depth chart andquarterbacks or whatever, but he
could go in somewhere and plugin and be a starting quarterback
.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, like a Jacoby Berset type yeah, damn darnold
maybe.
James Winston journeyman James.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
You could see, I don't know, gino Smith was a
nobody for a while and I don'twant to say no, yeah, but now I
can see him being a Gino Smithtype player, yeah.
So, circling back to theSteelers, what we do about this
quarterback situation?
Well, there's two differentthings.
Right, you got to figure out.
Well, actually three, becauseyou got coach, offense,

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coordinator, quarterback, herewe go three different.
Defense is good, right, likedefense, we got TJ Watt, we got
Mika, we were good.
But on offense, what are wedoing?
Let's, let's start withquarterback.
Like you got Kenny, this isyear three, we're going into
year three, is that right?
Yep, yep.

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Do we draft a QB this year?
Do we look for a veteran freeagent and have them there and
there's a backup ready to takeover the job?
Maybe get Kenny the lead nextyear, the starter job, and then
maybe give it someone else.
What are you thinking theSteelers take on it or do you
want the Steelers fans take onit?
Right?
So there's, there's twodifferent ways to improve.

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Like both, let's get both.
And yeah, I think the Steelersno.
Tomlin today said you know,kenny's QB won with competition
next year, so technically he'shad competition both years.
You know, the first year theystarted Mitch over Kenny, which
I was all in favor for.
I've never been a Kenny fan.
I thought a first round for himwas insane.

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I think if that dude playedanywhere else, no Steelers fan
would be as obsessed with him asthey are.
You know, I'm not a pitfootball fan.
So I've never viewed Kenny asan elite quarterback.
I've never viewed him as an NFLquarterback.
You know, I think startingMitch was the right move.
Last year obviously didn't playout well.

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Kenny came in shortly, other acouple good games.
But let's look at the numbers.
You know he's in his careerbetween him and Mitch combined
have had what 20, I think it's22 touchdown passes or whatever.
And Mitch or sorry, mason, hewas kind of a shadow.
You know I've seen Masonhammered at a bar on a Saturday

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night because he knows he's notdoing anything Sunday morning,
sunday afternoon.
So yeah, I've seen him.
A coupe great bar, by the way.
But you know, I think you know,coming into it they really
didn't have a choice.
Mason kind of shit the bedwhich historically he's done.
You know they bring Mason in and, to echo Tomlin's comments

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today, it's like, you know,there's no more figuring out
what he has.
We know what he has, we knowwhat he's capable of.
You know he, he came in inthose four games and really
asserted himself and knew theteam, knew the offense, knew you
know who was thrown to, knewthe system.
So I'd love to have Mason backnext year.
You know, I don't know if he'sa starting NFL quarterback, but

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I sure shit want him backbacking up whoever he's a free
agent, yeah, sure, yeah.
So well, money, will money comeinto it where I'm sure some
other team will see what he'sdone and say, okay, we're gonna
pay a little bit more probably.
But the dude lives in a milliondollar townhouse 50 feet away

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from my front door.
So you know I he doesn't wantto leave.
He's made comments, he loves ithere and seeing him out in
Pittsburgh, I think he loves ithere.
So I think there's a reason hetook the lesser deal last year
to come back as a third stringand I think if you know they can
guarantee him at least a backup, he'll be back and I want him
back this he was he drafted bythe Steelers yeah

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yeah, he was.
Yep, see, that's why I didn'tunderstand them bringing in
Mitch, because to me Mitch isthe same guy, is Pickett and
Trevisky, I mean, or Mason, Ithink they're very comparable.
That's the kind of your problemis you got three good backups
but you don't really have agreat starter.
Yeah, I mean, you know we'vedone the Kenny experiment.

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You know coach T said today,you know Kenny's QB1 with
competition, but if he walkedtomorrow, if they were like, hey
, dude, you're done like thisisn't working out, I'll drive
him to wherever he's got to gonext.
Yeah, and that's their problem,that's the Steelers problem.
Right, is they got to do likethese other good run, well run

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franchises?
You know, like, unlike our team, the Bucks, who usually pick in
the top or the draft most years, aside from the Tom Brady
situation we're in right now butyou guys, like the Chiefs, like
the Packers, like you have toeither make a big move to trade
up and get a guy in the draft, aquarterback, or you're sitting
back and you're waiting for,like a Kenny Pickett, or taking

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a chance on a guy flyer.
I mean, the Packers took aflyer and Jordan Love.
It just happened to work out,but, like the Chiefs.
They traded up to get PatMahomes.
So you just it's.
It's weird like I don't know ifthat's your move this year, but
that should have been the moveright.
You should have took a risk ina good.
You got a ticket risk in a goodQB draft class.

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Though we're better options totake with that first round pick
than Kenny Pickett.
I mean, I look at our O linepretty terrible shit.
We need a center, you know.
So probably should look at oneof those this year.
I would not use a first roundpick on a quarterback.
I think there's enough freeagents out there.
I think there's enough veteranfree agents out there that you
can go cousins, you can go tradefor fields.

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You can look at Baker with RussWilson.
Yeah, I mean Baker, don't getme wrong.
Cleveland screwed over Bakerand I think Cleveland right now
sitting there saying why did weget rid of him?
Why did we trade three firstround picks and then some to get
to Sean, who hasn't even playedhalf a season yet because he's
either heard or suspended.
So I'm a Baker fan personallyand I didn't hate him in

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Cleveland.
I obviously just hatedCleveland as a team, but Bakers
and AFC North guy, I could seehim come to Pittsburgh.
You know I could see himwanting, you know the elements
here and whatnot, but I lovewhat he's doing in Tampa this
year.
I loved what he did in LA lastyear when he went there.
You know he went in, bought offa plane and played a football
game in what 12 hours?

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And won the game for the Rams.
So I respect Baker.
I think Bakers a cool dude andI think that's what they should
have done, right they?
Back to my comment aboutTrabitsky.
That wasn't the right move.
They should have went and gotBaker, or even Sam Darnold.
I think Sam Darnold would havemeant upgrade.
You know, big guy, big arm, youknow.

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You know, and that's kind ofsystem maybe.
I mean just a gunslinger.
A big Ben was like to me thatthat would have been better, but
it's a gunslinger, it's not.
Dealers have never really had amobile running quarterback,
right.
So Cordell Stewart, okay.
Steelers yeah.

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But yeah, I'd love a Baker, youknow, I'd love a cousins, you
know if they trade for fields.
Who knows what's gonna happenwith Russ Wilson.
He's all about right about Russ, you know he's out of there and
who are some of the other bigfree agents?
Like I can't think of stuff myhead.
Russ is interesting, that's agood point.

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Like, what's gonna happen toRussell, it's very would be
awesome yeah.
I don't like that.
What?

Speaker 4 (15:46):
about like a but, he's got stars though.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
I.
That's the only question.
Right is does Russ, does he goto a situation where he's gonna
compete for the job?
Is he dropped that part?
Let's be honest, though ifyou're gonna sign.
You're gonna sign Russ Wilson.
You're gonna say to you know,keep Kenny's confidence or head
straight.
You say, okay, we're going tofigure out who has a better camp

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, but if you're signing Russ,you're starting Russ.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Or throw Kenny in the trade for him.
Probably better Like you're aguy, you wouldn't trade him, you
wouldn't trade for Russ and himnot be the guy.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, you'd have to give up Kenny, probably.
It's fine, like I said, I'lldrive him to Canada.
That's a good point.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
What's.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Denver going to do Because they got to trade him
Drew Lock's a name no.
Drew Lock yeah, yeah, he's outin Seattle, yeah.
I don't know, or is he going toroll with Gino?
I mean, gino's getting up there, I don't see.
I mean, I don't know it.
Just that's another situationwhere it depends on who the
coach is Right, takes that job.

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But speaking of coaches, whenit comes in, speaking of coaches
, yeah, yeah.
So let's talk about that, thesecond part of the equation.
Now how we feeling about CoachT?
Lifetime fan.
I did a quarter bourbon beforethis one, but you know.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
He's a walking winning record right.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
He, yeah, never had a losing season.
Atenate me, pittsburgh dadWatch that season where he talks
to Tomlin and Rothesberger,where he's like you know,
atenate's nothing to be proud ofand I've always loved that.
I'm like it's for Pittsburgh,it's super or bust right.
So recently it's been make theplayoffs robust and even more so

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maybe try to win a playoff game.
But I don't know.
I like Mike Tomlin.
I think Mike Tomlin, if you goaround and you look at what
every player in the league says,they do this pool every year.
What, what coach do you want toplay for?
It's always Mike Tomlin.
Yes, he's a player's coach.
Do I think Mike Tomlin is acool guy?
Yes, 100%.
I also think a lot of times he,his hands are tied because the

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roots and again not going to sithere and shit talk to the runes
.
They're some of the mosthistoric figures or historic
family in sports.
But when was the last time theSteelers went out and got a big
name, dc or OC, because theydon't want to pay it?
You know they get these nonames from that Canada or the
only one really from out theorganization?

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In the past, what 20 years wastaught Haley?
And again, who?
Now they said.
He said today you know they'regoing outside of the
organization for an OC this year, which is great.
I like Mike.
He's got a year left on hiscontract.
Don't give him an extension.
Go into the year with a newoffensive coordinator, hopefully
a new quarterback, and see whatthe guy can do.

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You know, go get a big name.
Go get your Bieneme, or I neverknow how to pronounce the name
Bieneme or Bieneme.
Go get the guy you know.
I know I think it was whatCarolina or the Chargers today
interviewed Cliff Clingsbury fortheir OC position.
I mean, he ran a good offenseout there in Arizona, so the

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steel is different with thequarterbacks there.
But, yeah, you have to bring insomebody.
The Steelers have the advantageof the name, right?
So you're a Bieneme or aClingsbury and the Steelers come
to you and say, hey, we'regoing to actually open up the
checkbook this year.
We want you to come be the OC.

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That's a recognition theSteelers have versus the
Chargers or the Panthers orwhoever you know.
You're going out and you'resaying, hey, you can be the OC
under Tomlin, you're part of theSteelers organization, we're
going to go get a quarterback,or we've already gotten a
quarterback.
You know to come in.
Why are you going to say now,you're not.
It's a historic franchise, andI'm not just saying that because

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I'm a fan.
I mean I think we can all sithere and say you know, you've
got your Cowboys, you've gotyour Steelers, you've got you
know your Giants, your Jets,whatever.
They're historic franchises.
Where are you really going toturn down that opportunity if
given it?
No, yeah, I had the Cliff.
Kingsbury is just interesting tome because you got this guy who

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had all these big namequarterbacks.
I mean he had Pat Mahomes incollege.
He doesn't even have a winningrecord at Texas Tech.
He goes to Arizona.
That I mean, was it really?
I mean, he went to playoffs oneyear.
He had a great start to theyear, one season, mid playoffs
and then what was he doing last?
He was like the OC at USC.

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He was off the court.
Caleb Williams, right.
So I mean that to me.
When I saw that that he'sinterviewing for Chicago the
Panthers and the Bears thatreached out to interview that's
right, bears, because noweveryone's thinking like you
know, I've been watchingBarstool and whatnot say, oh
well, we're going to interviewClingsbury, does that mean we're
going in for Williams?
That mean we're going to tradefields?

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So I don't know.
We're still at the point.
This 23 season is still ongoing.
Nobody really knows what'sgoing to happen.
There's going to be a lot ofshuffling.
I mean we've got what?
Seven head coaching positions,open Handfuls and handfuls of
those season DCs that are goingto come up.
But the biggest shock, you know, I think the biggest shock for
me so far was McCarthy down inDallas.

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They're rolling here.
I didn't expect that so fast.
No, and I thought, I honestlythought after Sunday when, when
they lost, it was going to beBelichick was named as the head
coach by Wednesday.
Yeah, I thought that would neverwork, though, like we all know,
jerry Jones and Belichick Imean, I think Belichick knows

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that he would hate to work forJerry Jones, like Robert Kraft
said, all like he's not involved, like in the details, he lets
Belichick do everything, gmcoach everything.
Yeah, jerry would not be likethat.
I don't think Jerry could giveit up.
Yeah, even if it was Belichick.
But then Jerry's just going tobe in the same position every

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year that he's in, of sitting inthat press box slapping his no
card, you know, and we're alllip reading what's he, what did
he just say?
You know that type of stuff.
So I don't know.
It's.
The coaching carousel this yearis going to be very interesting,
I think.
You know, from a head coachposition to the whole way down
to OCs and DCs, where people goyeah and what, what.

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Dallas came out and said we'relooking at the overall record of
what he's done and, yeah, it'sbeen great, but you've choked in
the playoffs every year.
You know, daniel, danielQuinn's probably going to be
gone, someone's been in my,probably as a head coach.
Yeah, go back to Seattle.
Can I give you a proposal here,steven?
I'm going to throw this outthere.

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So so what do you think?
We know you were like all right, tom Linke, good for one more
year, let's write it out.
But what if Tom Linke decidesto I don't know retire or
whatever?
Step away, coaching vacancyopens up.
You get Mike for able and thenyou trade for fields.
So you got fields graves andyou're running Smash Mouth

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Football.
I mean, to me that is Steelersright there.
I think that would be like theperfect formula to bring
Steelers back.
So can't see it in the in thepicture, but there is a very
nice king size bed right therethat I will abandon this
apartment and be homeless.
And if you want to come toPittsburgh, yeah, I would love

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Rape's here in Pittsburgh.
I mean, he's got.
He's got a little bit of a tiehere, does he?
Yeah, he was drafted by.
Was drafted by the Steelers.
Was he really?
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, yeah, I think Vrape'scoming in and get a quarterback.
I'd love the two.
You know, I'd love Vrape's hereto begin with.
He's obviously going to getswooped up somewhere.
I think Titans were stupid tojust fire him and not try to get

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something out of it.
You know she came on and said,well, we couldn't wait.
And you know, risk having himstill on the on the thing.
I'm like you're not going tohave a problem trading him
somewhere, being like, hey, wegive us a second round pick for
him.
Shit, anyone would jump allover that.
I'd love for the Steelers to dothat.

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But going back to Tomlin, thoughI I like Mike Tomlin.
He's been here a long time.
I think Mike Tomlin might havea better personality for TV.
Really Love to see Mike Tomlinon one of the you know Fox or
CBS or ESPN pre games and youknow sitting there talking, you

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know kind of like the, the JimmyJohnson or the Michael Stray,
and I think Mike Tomlin would befantastic at that.
Terry Bradshaw, I don't know.
Yeah, but I'm at the point.
If we've got to have him forone more year, let's give him a
year.
Prove it.
Unless Braves can come into the,come into the conversation here

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.
See, that's why I see thissituation as, and the way he
walked out of the pressconference, to me that's that's
eye opening right, like hedidn't answer the question, he
just left.
If he really cared about theSteelers franchise, he really
cared.
And you saw out there Braves,vela, check.
I mean I think I think you'reall done, but you saw these

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names right that you could bringin, right, I mean, I I think it
would be the right move for himto step just be like you know
what.
I went out on a playoff runlike never had a losing season.
Right, the Steelers are goingto fire him.
They don't fire coaches, soit's got to be him.
And I feel like this is likeVrable to me is the perfect guy

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for that job.
I really hope, like I want tosee it, just as a football fan,
because it would revitalize thatfan base.
Like you guys, dealer nationwould be super fired up for that
guy.
For Braves coming in there, youknow, if they decided to part
ways with Tomlin, obviouslyyou've got to do it sooner
rather than later.
Vraves isn't going to stickaround for, you know, the entire

(26:07):
off season.
But I also feel like and thisgoes back to the historic
franchise.
Plus, it's the team thatdrafted him.
I think if the Steelers went toBraves and said, hey, we want
you to be our head coach, he'slike I don't need to interview
anywhere else, I'm in, yeah, soCVS is reporting that Art Rooney
confirms plan to extend MikeTomlin's contract.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Is that yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
So in his conference today, you know, the question
was well, let's go back toMonday.
You know his, the questioneveryone saw was about one year
left and that's when he, youknow, exited stage left or
whatever it was.
So you know he came on todayand said he plans to be here.
Rooney's have come out and said, yeah, mike's back for the
final year of his contract, but,like I said earlier, I wouldn't

(26:51):
extend him.
I wouldn't extend him until yousee what he does next year.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
You know so.
So if in like a month you hearTomlin for your extension, is
that good or bad?
Not ideal?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, it's not ideal, but I mean, I think what
Steelers fans have to also takeinto consideration is you know
how lucky we've been as far ascoaches.
Yeah, we've had less than ahandful right.
So take a look at yourClevelands that have had I can't
even count how many coachesthey've had or whatnot.

(27:27):
You know there's beenconsistency.
There's been.
We'll get to Tampa's coach in asecond.
I wanted to talk, you know.
I just you've got to be careful, you've got to tread lightly
right.
You can't just fire the guy andhope you're going to get the
next best thing.
And I think, yes, there aregreat options out there.
But Mike Tomlin's been here fora very long time and not many

(27:49):
franchises can say you knowwe're this storied and have had
really three prevalent headcoaches in that time.
You know you go back to your,your Noel Cowher and then Tomlin
.
Yeah, it's crazy.
And if and if it is Vrable,he's there till he was.
He's done like he's retiring aSteelers football coach Like

(28:12):
your coach, yep, yep, he's thenext coach for the next 20 years
.
Like there's no question, right?
I just want to say it, man, Iwant to say it so bad.
Like I love Tomlin too, like Ilove his, don't blink.
Like his, you know his phrasesand stuff splash plays, like
stuff like that.
Yeah, I think, to go back toyour original question of you,

(28:33):
know Tomlin or Vrable, I would,I would move on from Tomlin for
Vrable.
But anyone else right now, yeah, really yeah.
Belichick, no, because he'sgoing to coach for what?
That's why they wouldn't do it.
Because Belichick, because hecould give you what?
Five years, it's not.
Yeah, they're not hiringBelichick because it's past.

(28:53):
They're going to look atBelichick and be like he might
be here for five more years andthen put a dog on his computer
for the draft.
So, yeah, yep, and you know whatBelichick's doing, right?
He's just trying to get therecord for wins.
That's all he really caresabout.
This point is passing.
Oh my gosh, I just lost what'sthe name?

(29:15):
Shula, passing, don, don, shula.
So wherever he goes, it's thatget the record gone Done.
I don't think he's.
I mean yes, in his, in his mind, he's probably like I want to
go win a Super Bowl.
I want to do what Brady did weeach have one without each other
kind of even the playing field.
I just don't think it's a longterm play for him, right, but at

(29:39):
this stage in Belichick'scareer you trust him.
I mean, he's only there for,like you said, the record.
So let's say, either yourrecord or things go south.
What's to say he's not, I'm out.
You know, I'm loyal to NewEngland.
I've been there for what?
20 some years.
I'm out.
Yeah, that's what's so weirdabout him going to the Falcons.

(30:02):
Like all this Falcons talk thatmakes no sense to me.
Like they're not close, theyaren't.
Like they went six and 10,three straight years.
Like Arthur Smith was not agreat coach, but he's.
I mean he was trying.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Right, well, they got .
They got to have a plan to geta quarterback in If.
If he's going to go to Atlanta,you assume, right, right,
somebody like Kirk or somethinglike that.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
I mean you're Belichick right now with the,
with the seven vacancies, you'regoing to do chargers.
Yeah, I mean, where else?
Or else would you Probably theclosest.
I really thought I reallythought the Eagles fan base was
going to push out Sirianni, likeI really thought they were
going to make enough of a uproarthat they would have to To get

(30:52):
fire to took your team to theSuper Bowl last time and then
made the playoffs.
All three years Made theplayoffs.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Essentially do that with Pederson, though.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, it was like two years but yeah easy out there
in Philly, right?
I loved the guy.
I'm sure you've all seen the,the Tik Tok or whatever.
If the dude thrown popcorn atSierra on it.
Oh yeah.
You're done.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
I just love that that was a road game.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
That was it.
Like you were not playing athome in front of your own fans.
That was a.
You're on the road and you'regetting thrown it by your own
fan.
That's just to watch Billy.
At least that guy up the stands.
Yeah, that was good.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Yeah, you guys see the dolphins fan, the dude in
the dolphins jersey.
He was baked, he was gone.
He's like I'm watching a moviein real life and I'm here.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
But hey, I mean let's get to that, let's go to bucks
for a second.
I mean good for them.
I think they played anexcellent game.
You know, and you know, myfavorite thing to come out of it
and I'm sure you've all seen itwas who was the lady that asked
the question about?

Speaker 1 (32:02):
I don't know whether Ha, ha, ha.
No idea yeah.
I need to look it up and seewho it was.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
You just like kept his cool, but he got that little
like smirk in there.
He was like you know, it's adome right, the coolest things
are walking from the bus inside.
Like Me, personally, I'd be upthere if that put him.
Be like, Are you serious?
Like?

Speaker 1 (32:23):
yeah, I was thinking, if it was anyone else up there
besides Todd Bowles, how theirreactions would have been like
if it was Bella check that youasked, or like I don't know To
go back to, or something Serious.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
He'd be like what?

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Can you imagine what Mike McDaniel would have said?
Maybe he's got a crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Maybe not even from a performance perspective, but
from entertainment.
He's got to be my favoritecoach in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
He's great.
Mcdaniel is so funny.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, yeah, do you see how?
Do you see how cold he was whenthey interviewed him coming out
of half time, and again thispast weekend he was like he
could barely talk.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
It's like his lips were frozen.
I've been watching, I'vewatched the end season, hard
knocks and just some of the youknow and Tyree cause on the
sidelines.
It was like, oh you know, hey,how do I look and I can make
this joke cause I am short but aTyree comes over and was like
hey, how do I look?
And McDaniel is just like short.
I just think he's Is it good.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I never watched the, it was good.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah.
Yeah, it's worth at leastputting on during the work day
when you're kind of sittingthere reading through emails and
stuff.
But it was good.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Yeah, speaking of hard knocks, did you guys see
that if nobody volunteers,there's like three teams that
they could force hard knocks on?

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Hopefully one's the Steelers.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
It was like Houston it was like Houston, Atlanta
maybe, and then one other team,I don't think Steelers or bucks
were on there.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I mean, what's the criteria for?
Because the dolphins shouldn'thave been on hard knocks.
I mean, it was always the Lionswho were struggling and you
know round up plus them for asecond, I think.
You know, going to the SuperBowl, I'm not going to.
You know, sit here and say I'ma Lions fan this week, but if
the Lions were to beat the bucks, I'd have to get on that lion's

(34:19):
bandwagon for the year.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I already put a lion's Super Bowl future in,
locked and loaded, ready to go.
We're just going to bet Pluseight, 50.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Okay, I got him at 10 to one.
I wish I would have jumped inearlier in the year.
I was like, damn, I should havedone this, like right out.
I honestly had doubts aboutthem.
You know, they beat the Chiefsone week one.
But I was like I don't know man, they've never done this before
.
And then when they played, whenthey drew the Rams, I was like,
oh, this is it, this is howthey're going to go out.
They're going to get their homeplayoff.

(34:49):
They're going to get their homeplayoff.
Okay, so perfect efforts tocome in.
I was like this is just soscripted.
And then they pulled it out.
I just I can't believe what dayCampbell has done.
It's amazing, just amazing.
Yes, that was truly the bestgame of wild card weekend.
Yeah, that was the only years.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
I might say it was awesome, that was a perfect game
, yep.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
It was what.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
25, 23, final Mm hmm, yeah, you see, you know, the
fans like didn't leave.
They lingered around for solong and just stayed there, just
to basket.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
And they're like you're going to get it again
next week.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
So calm down, it's going to be different.
It's going to be different nextweek, so it's going to be cool.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yeah, I guess we can by the way, I got every team
wrong.
It was a Saints Broncos orBears or Hard Knocks.
All yeah.
Not even close at all, yep.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Broncos this year would have been funny.
I don't want to see Sean Paytonon that show.
Can't stand him.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah, yeah.
I think the only rules are youcan't be a team that's done it
in the last five years or sevenyears or whatever, and then you
can't be a first year head coach.
Think other than that's prettymuch fair game, but they don't
base it off of performance right, Cause I mean it's marketer
building no.
No, book it, book it In fact.
So the end season hard knocksonly started three years ago

(36:14):
with the Colts and it's a cursenow because the Colts got the
first year.
They collapsed, lost the Jags,they blew the playoffs, lost the
Jags in the fight.
I watched that season just towatch that episode.
It was hilarious, frank Wrightgoing the locker room after they
just blew that to the freakingone.
Win Jags and that's theopportunity for the Steelers.

(36:36):
Frank Wright, you want FrankWright?

Speaker 4 (36:39):
No.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Not against it.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Wait, wait, as head coach, okay, oh my God, let's
unpack that for a second.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I mean he was great Philly
, I mean, and then he just justwhen you watch those shows and
that's why I kind of like Ithink McDaniels hilarious too,
but I just he's not like I don'tknow if he really is like the
leader, like the CEO kind of guy, like the like I'm controlling

(37:12):
the team, like that's the like.
Watching Dan Campbell on hardknocks, it makes sense how he
was able to turn that around,because he lets his coaches
coach and he manages the teamaround it.
Like he is the one kind of thebridge in the gap from the GM,
the coaches, the players.
He's the perfect guy for thatrole, which is crazy, cause you
just think this is like a.

(37:33):
He's like a straight coach,right, he's just like a pump up
guy, but it's perfect cause helets the coaches coach.
I think most guys just come in.
They tried, like Mike McDaniel.
I worry about these trying toget too much in the weeds.
Yeah, that's fair.
I think he also loves the like.
I don't know you want to callpublicity or or whatever.
Yeah.
You know he at least has funwith the media and the publicity

(37:57):
.
You know you compare him toBill Belichick and it's absolute
polar opposites, right?
So, yeah, yeah, that was onescene that was never going to do
.
Hard knocks Patriots withBelichick Hell, no, do you think
any more coaches, head coaches,will go between now on the
start of next year you fired,yeah, before the start of next

(38:21):
season.
So you mean, like playoff teamsfiring coaches?

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, who's going to fire their?

Speaker 2 (38:25):
coach.
Not anymore.
I mean, it would be the Eaglesand they.
I think the lightest thing Isaw yesterday was that they're
going to keep Sirianni and focusin on piring, a new office
coordinator, defense coordinator, essentially saying like, hey,
it worked last year, we had theright coordinators and he was a
good head coach for that team.
Let's try to recreate that,whereas Philly fans look at it

(38:48):
and be like this guy is the, the, what they call the coordinator
merchant, and then he'sessentially just, these guys are
just running away as fast asthey can to get get a better job
.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
I think he's done.
I think they're going to firehim.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Sirianni no, they would have done it already.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
I feel like they're meeting tomorrow, right, isn't
the plan to meet tomorrow?
For Monday, I think so.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
But typically two days, two or three days after
your game.
So Steelers did it today,cowboys did it yesterday and
yesterday.
Yeah Well, here's, here's mydream scenario.
We've already talked aboutRable to the Steelers.
That's one piece.
Bella check to the Eagles wouldbe so good, so funny to see

(39:33):
those two fan bases, like Eaglesfans, like embrace, bella check
just in spite of the Patriotfans, and then Patriots fans
having to turn around and watchBella check because he, they
have the P, like they have theroster right, like Cali Roseman
has done a great job.
I mean, that's not the problemthere.
The problem is obviouslywhatever the heck happened at
the end of the year, but thatwould be hilarious.

(39:55):
No, no one else thinks Bellacheck on the Eagles would be
funny, I think it would behilarious if he did go there and
maybe he started out.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
You know one, two, three and oh, but just finished
like six and 11, six and 12.
He wouldn't, let me just turnon him immediately.
Yeah, he'd be about.
Yeah, cool, bobby Petrino, justleave.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
See, then it's like where is Bella check going to go
?
Like where is the right fit?
You said chargers, I mean yes,but just the only.
What about a?
He's not going to go to thePanthers.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
He's the most attractive team right now as a
head coach to go to.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
What about?
Um, we haven't, we haven'tmentioned, uh, coach Harbaugh.
What about him?
You would, you like him inPittsburgh?
No, no, really.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
The only reason and it's optics, the only reason I'd
want him in Pittsburgh is adivisional rival with his
brother, but I'm just awesome atall, because his brother's in
your division.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
Wouldn't that make you like the Ravens just a
little bit more?
No?

Speaker 2 (41:03):
nothing's going to make me like the Ravens Well,
it's also a bit of a listen tohis other brother so that's also
.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
yeah, that's not the right question, but wouldn't the
rivalry would like, to acertain extent, less than a
little bit, just because thecoaches aren't going to hate
each other?

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I think that would induce the rivalry Right.
I think you know you've alreadygot the Steelers Ravens and
let's, let's be honest, theSteelers and Ravens are the AFC
North rivalry, right.
So Bengals, oh my God.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Oh, coming at you, andrew, okay.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
I know it was like man, they go to the down here,
but hey, we still got Joe Burrowthe Browns.
But I think if you take theSteelers and Ravens and then you
put brother to brother, thatenlarges the rivalry.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
Oh, that'd be awesome .

Speaker 2 (41:49):
That's what I thought you would want.
Okay, so Vegas hasn't confirmed.
What's his name?
Pierce Antonio Pierce.
Yeah, I don't man, if theydon't, they literally.
So I thought Rick Bacchiat, orwhat's his name, starts with the
B Bacchiat.
Bacchiat.
Bacchiat.
Yeah, I thought he was theright guy.

(42:11):
I mean that guy literally tookover the job, milled the season
fruit and gets fired because ofwhatever and then Henry Ruggs
kills the person, goes to jail.
I mean literally had to somehowget that team to the playoffs
and they were like in the gamethey almost beat the Bengals
before the Bengals go to theSuper Bowl, and then they don't
even give them the job.

(42:32):
I just couldn't believe.
I was like, as an interim, whatmore do you have to do?
Right, that's just his mother'sname.
It's the second time around,right, because they made the
mistake of not getting himhiring him.
They get McDaniels which God,that's another one where it's
like, why is that?
He got another head coaching?
Try, he's awful.
But back to the Belichick thing, just to sidebar him and

(42:55):
McDaniels, though, that littlecombo together, that's really.
That makes it interesting,right?
But if you're Michigan, soyou're not leaving Michigan to
go to Carolina, you're notleaving Michigan to go to,
probably, atlanta.
I mean, again, harbaugh isprobably either I want Vegas or

(43:19):
the Chargers or I'm staying inMichigan, right, yeah, I think
so.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Maybe Chicago, do you think, because Big Cat was
mentioning that.
I mean, if you wanted to keephim up, you could hypothetically
we're talking hypothetically,or is he locked in for next year
?

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, he's locked in yeah, they're just looking for
an OC.
I mean that's another guy whereit's like he's better as a
defense coordinator.
Like I just wish that theseowners and these GMs from West
Park could really like it'spretty clear which coaches are
coordinators and which coachesare good head coaches.

(43:56):
Like, just because you're agood coordinator doesn't mean
you're a good head coach.
And one of the teams just yeah.
I mean all bowls is anotherexample of this.
I mean we're proud what we gotto do.
I guess we're going to extendtide bowls after this season,
probably with, if we're talking,bucks, baker and bowls.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, I mean he.
I think he's best suited as adefensive coordinator.
Yeah, but definitely.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
How aggressive do you think bucks will be at trying
to resign Baker?
Oh, I think really.
I think they love Baker.
Yeah, I think Baker will get atleast a three to five year
contract.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
I feel like ball reports Baker wants to be here.
Yeah, so it's why, wouldn't youknow a?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
retin.
I mean, if you've got you eatfranchise, yeah Right, Ohio or
Tampa Florida.
Where the hell do you want tobe Like the guys had?
What eight head coaches didthey say?

Speaker 3 (44:51):
and his first three season, four, six years yeah
three teams, yep For two kids.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
I mean, he is probably so Relieved to just
have continuity, to just be like, okay, I'm gonna be here for a
while.
And he probably is the same waywith having bowls.
He's like, let's just run itback, let's do it again and it
honestly, as a bucks fan, I'mdown with it because look at
their division, it's not goinganywhere.
Like, I'm not scared of any NFCSouth team, okay if the Falcons

(45:21):
, if the Falcons do getBelichick, okay.
Then I'm a little worriedbecause then I'm like what's up,
what's going on here?
But I don't believe that's real.
Yeah, so I mean, even if you goyour division quarterback she
got Baker, car Bryce, youngstick with Brick, young, desmond
Ritter like what's on Ritter?
Yeah, so you're a high-nike,easily the best out of all of

(45:42):
them.
Yeah, I love man, I love whatthe Saints are doing.
It is so awesome.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
To see like sit down meet.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
The Saints are my year rate.
Like you hate the Ravens, Ihate the Saints.
Like that's my team, I made it.
Yeah, it is so awesome to seeDennis Allen.
Is it done as Allen, or what'shis name?

Speaker 1 (46:02):
No, Dennis.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Allen, dennis Allen, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just run that team into theground over and over Like
they're stuck with their car.
Who's terrible?
They won't play James, which isawesome, because the last thing
I want them to do is play James, and he's really good because
that was our guy, you know likedon't forget the mutiny for the
last weekend.
Yeah, the mutiny.

(46:23):
So clearly don't even liketheir coach.
Oh my gosh, it's so good thatwas them that ran.
They're supposed to take a knee.
And then it's Smith and waslike I'm sorry, I'm not too,
yeah it was wishbone wishboneoffense.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah, I mean, they have curious, I'm curious,
because I know, andrew and Corey, we all hate the Saints.
Do you?
Do you dislike the Saints as aSteelers fan, or are they just
another team to you?
It's just Matt, they're justthere.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
I hate him.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
No one team.
I think if we're going nondivision teams that I hate.
I mean I'm really patriots.
Patriots, right, that's yournumber one.
I think my Philly hate is trulymore Just because of geography.
Yeah, yeah.
No, that's so fun, that's sofunny because, you know, I

(47:15):
talked to Steelers fans.
I just have never and I thinkit was a generation thing, right
, so I've never in my timewatching Football hated the
Cowboys.
I'm a huge Dak fan, like.
I think Dak is just an absoluteclass act.
I really like Dak Prescott.
I really yeah, I don't thinkI've ever heard someone say that
.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
As a person, you mean yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Okay, okay, okay, sorry it up until up until the
wild per game.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
He had a phenomenal season this year, for the most
part using and he was the forowner of MVP, like the latter
half of the season at one point.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah, I'm trying to think like hated non division
team aside from the Patriots.
I mean my hot take right now isI Just can't stand the Chiefs.
I just I wanted so badly in thelose last week and now I hope
Buffalo just goes and destroysthem that I.
I'm so glad you said thatbecause to me the first Patrick

(48:15):
Mahomes year when they went upagainst the Patriots and they
lost that overtime game Like Ireally want, I was rooting hard
for the Chiefs.
I love, I like that team.
They were fun to watch.
Tyreek Hill, mahomes, kelsey,like yeah, so exciting.
This version of the Chiefswhere they have no web, like
like the receivers suck.

(48:35):
Kelsey's like super distracteddoesn't mean I guess is worse
career, terrible season.
He's had this career and it'sjust Mahomes is now like I like
that guy and then now he's likebecome this annoying.
They're doing for flags,complain about officials always
playing victim, right like, andI just I got like Andy.

(48:58):
I can't be read because he'syou know, it's Andy read.
But Mahomes to me is just rubme the complete wrong way.
This year I've turned.
I'm with you, I've turned theChiefs like I root against them.
Now, yep, thank you.
Hope Josh Allen goes.
You know, takes that field onthat games.
What Sunday, yeah.
I'm the last game.
Yep, I hope he gets there andjust remembers Mahomes coming up

(49:20):
to him at the end of thatregular season game where he's
just like not, not good game,not you know a good job, it was
just bullshit call, bullshitcall.
You should just say that that'dbe so funny.
Just replay that on a loop.
He should make a play.
Call call, bullshit Call.
They should just be called.

(49:41):
Everything should be cadoury.
Is Tony?
Cadoury is doing like, yeah,they're receivers especially.
What an absolute collapse.
I mean, there might be somehope in the right, but yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
He's awesome.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Right, it's just good .
But you know, I don't know howyou stick with Tony, I don't
know how you stick with about ascantling.
I mean, yeah, she rice prettygood.
Yeah, yeah, that's the onlybright spot.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Yeah, did, uh, did sky more, even play.
Did he have a catch?

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Oh my gosh dude, what a bust.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
He did not have a catch replay.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean I.
What worries me about thisweekend with the Bills Chiefs as
One, is the is this good atgame game?
I mean so much more for theBills and the in.
The Chiefs are playing withhouse money, right, the Chiefs
come in, they're going on theroad, they're underdogs, which

(50:43):
I'm a gosh I say how many timesdoes that happen?
And then you got the Bills whoare like Don't fuck it up, don't
, don't do what we did last year, like don't do what we did.
Like last year.
That's what it felt.
Like the Bengals went in thereRolling house money and they
just demolished the bills.
That's what makes me nervousabout Sunday.
What's uh?
I'm gonna look at the Buffaloforecast for next or for Sunday.

(51:05):
It's just cold from what I saw.
The interesting one, if we'retalking weather for this weekend
, be on the lookout the windsand Baltimore on Saturday Like
they're expecting like 35, 40mile an hour winds, just getting
it now.
So that means it'll probablymove to ball.
It's like we're just gettingthe beginning of it, so it'll
last here till about Friday,into Saturday, and it'll

(51:29):
probably move down into Maryland.
So yeah, you're right, thewinds, but that's a I don't know
.
I feel like that's an advantagefor Texans.
What?
No, they're not there.
It's gonna be the Ravens.
That's Ravens.
Football from the football,don't throw.
Yeah, I mean Justin Tucker, youthink it like field goals.

(51:49):
Oh, what's his name?
Mark Andrews might be back to.
Yeah, that's what's crazy.
Practice this week in full.
Yesterday, I think I saw Yep,yep, so we want to do that.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah, we're starting to start recapping the games.
Just go through chronologicallyand see kind of what we like.
Yeah, congrats.
By the way, congratulations toVictor, the only person on the
podcast that did pick the Texansto win.
We all pick the Browns, everysingle one of us.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
I mean, but I said it , I wanted to.
I just wanted flack out to goback to Baltimore.
So bad so bad, oh yeah.
Yeah, oh my gosh, I was.
I was like trying to make ithappen.
But what a collapse, right likehe rode that high horse in.
I mean he was looking good.
I Like that he was looking goodHe'd be.
I Remember I was a coupe CJ andI'm just like looking at this

(52:42):
TV and I'm just like what'shappening?
Like they put something mydrink.
Like what is going on here?
I could not believe he had sixsixes.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Like in, like what four plays, or something like.
Yep, I like it back to backtwice.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Yeah, yeah, I see I wanted that game.
But like this week, like beatthe Texans and then do that in
Baltimore, that would have beenfunny.
Yeah, but gosh, and that's noBrowns like I.
We were talking about Lionsthere getting finally getting
their roses.
The Browns man like that islike you have a great season.

(53:18):
You battle all these injuries,or quarter.
What Quarterbacks you lose, youryeah yeah fact.
A number one running back wecan.
That's running back in AFCNorth.
And yeah, this is right,there's a Steelers game.
You got hurt, yeah, week two, Ithink yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
It was a Mica Fitzpatrick that hit him, I'm
pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Yep, it's bad, but I mean, come on, like the Browns,
like their defense was awful too, like it.
Yeah, you could say Joe flacco,through two picks, sixes, but
still like CJ Straub, just torethem up.
Yeah right.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
I mean we bet that the Browns defense would be good
and they were not, and that'syeah.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
I know what happened, yeah, it turns out, cj Straub
is pretty good DJ.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Straub lost.
Who do you lose in that game?
One of his receivers?
Well, tank Dells been out andDells been out, and then there
was Nico Collins is still good.
No a brown.
There was a Robert Woods or noBrown.
Oh.
Brown, he's done.

(54:29):
Yeah, he's down to Nico RobertWoods yeah, yeah.
Yeah so well, look at this gameplus nine.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
I like Texans plus nine.
You like Texans plus nine?

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Okay, yeah, I think it's on the Ravens big time.
I think Ravens roll time.
See, here's what I thinkhappens every year.
I think we get to thedivisional round and we forget
about the one seeds.
We forget like we just watchedthe wild card and they were
sitting at home.
We forget how good the Ravensare, how good the 49ers are.
We just Texans are awesome.

(55:03):
No, the Texans were like aaverage team all year.
They're going to play theRavens, who were the best team
in football, yeah, but are theythe best team in the playoffs,
though over the past few years,yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Lamar's got to keep his mouth in order he does.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
And, andrew, I'll tell you this right now I think
had the Steelers found a way tobeat the Bills, steelers would
be going to the AFC championship.
I agree with that.
Oh, oh, I agree, hey it's hardto be at the same team three
times Because they would havehad to beat the Ravens three
times to do it.
No, I mean, I know, I justthink, had the Steelers one last

(55:44):
week.
By no means would it be a cakewalk, but I think the Steelers
would have been making it to theAFC championship.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
That would have been wild.
Can you imagine if it was likeSteelers and Bucks Championships
on day?
Who would have thought that?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Who would have thought, yeah, look at us,
that's the meme right there.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
But what does everyone else think I got?
I got Houston plus nine.
I might sprinkle a littleHouston money line.
I think they're gonna play well.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Oh, what's that Digging Texans money line if
weather conditions are Suitablefor?

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, anybody you guys on Ravens minus
nine, Andrew, yep.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
I like them by two.
Top sounds on my teeth To myleft sounds yeah, I think I
think this game is over by halftime.
So wrong, dude.
I think you guys don't realizehow good the Ravens are.
They're really good.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
This is what they do.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
It's really good and it's a rookie quarterback going
on the road like, yes, I don'tthink you can just say this

Speaker 1 (56:52):
is a rookie quarterback though.
Yeah, you can't say rookiequarterback anymore.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
This is one of the most historically great rookie
quarterbacks We've ever seen infootball.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
I don't think we can really.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
I.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Will, I will, I will say if he beats the Ravens next
this weekend, cj.
Strauss is the greatest rookie.
This is the greatest rookieyear ever.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
I think yeah, I can order back if he beat out Jersey
.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
But what?
You gonna buy a Stroud Jerseyif they beat the Ravens me.
No, I can't be.
I hate the city of Houston.
Man, the Astros, that's it.
This is what pissed me offabout the bastard.
Like the freaking Houston fans,they have all the Astros
cheating shit and then they, youknow, forget about that.
We're gonna win another worldseries.
And then they get the freakingTexans to bounce back so quick.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
I mean gosh Miko Ryan's, he's awesome.
Yeah, I do like to make.
Oh, he's good.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Cory, what's your pick?
What do you like?
I'm going Texas and Texans inthe points.
I think it's close.
I think the Texans defense hasbeen trending, so that's why I
think it's close, but I thinkthe Ravens win okay, victor, you
were absolutely right about theTexans last week.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Are you riding with them again this week, or do you
think this is the end of line?
I Think it's gonna be end ofthe line.
I think it'll be close.
I think it's gonna be like alow-scoring game Under, like
Texans plus nine.
Yeah, okay, I'm so good aboutmy pick now I Think I'm gonna
have to win too.
I think, yeah, I don't winreally that's correct.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I think you guys are forgetting how good the Ravens
are.
The Ravens went to Sam Fray tobeat the Niners.
Okay, regular season, that wasthree weeks ago or whatever.
It was like Christmas, right,that was like four weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Yeah, they're just been coasting.
We'll see.
It doesn't matter what you doin the regular season.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Some people are saying the mark Andrews mark
Andrews makes the Ravens worse.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Some people are saying that.
I think they are likely on thebench.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Please awesome to tight ends man I can't CC.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
I think it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
I just can't believe you guys are all hating on the
Ravens.
I mean, literally.
Think about this.
If we were having thisdiscussion a week ago before the
Texans beat the Browns and Isaid, okay, texans, ravens, who
do you like?
You guys would have been allRavens for a role, but it's just
because they beat the Browns.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
I've been saying the Ravens are gonna lose in the
divisional round for at least amonth.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, they did the last time they were
one seed Omar's got what oneplayoff.
One playoff win for Lamar.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
That's not elite.
Baker is too.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
I think the Ravens win.
I just want, I just want toclarify that it's not by nine.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Yeah, but so Chris is picking the Texans to win.
Steven, are you picking theTexans to win or just cover Win
so we okay, all right, I thinkit's close.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
I think it's like Texans win by.
You know three or four pointson my top.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
I'm gonna lock this in now because I'm filming so
good about the Ravens.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
This is a good thing, stephen.
For us this is good.
That's good.
He's on the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Yeah, I don't know, steven, if you're following
sports broves Twitter, but beenon a heater and college
basketball Casino probably lessdude, if you post them and
you're telling me you'll hit,I'll copy them, but I couldn't
tell you single thing aboutcollege or pro basketball.
So when that part of theconversation starts, I'll
probably.
And yeah, I got you, eventhough right now looks like the

(01:00:28):
part was gonna die becauseMichigan State's only up by two
with three minutes ago.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
So I know it told you .

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Yeah, cory Jinxton, you the, you the bookie this
year.
Well, they got hard rock now,so I don't have to do everything
, that's right.
Yeah, that's why, all right.
So I told you, cj, I knowyou're gonna see a Disharm hit
me at the beginning of the yearand he was like hey, I need you

(01:00:54):
to place some bets for me.
And I was like that's cool,this year I'm charging 10% of
your winnings.
If you lose, no big deal.
If you win, I want 10%.
And he was like, man, I justbought a house, I can't, can't
be doing this.
And I was like, dude, you hitlike two grand last year and
then I got docked on taxes for.
So, yeah, I'm charging 10% thisyear.

(01:01:17):
And he's like all right, that'sfair.
And Mam sure was even the sameway.
So he was like that's fine.
He plays a bet 10% of mywinnings but all right what's
our game?

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
We get on that game.
Moving on to the next one Yep,yep, we got Packers 49ers.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
I think this is a come down to earth for Jordan
Love a little bit yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Yeah, yeah, I think the 49ers roll Yep Minus yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
I think they do too.
Is that what it is?

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Nine and a half.
Nine and a half yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
Over 50 and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I like the under on that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
What's the over?
I don't.
I think they're going to beathim by like 30.
Like, I think.
I think I think Saturday'sgoing to be a bunch of blowouts
but Sunday's going to be good.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
You know I'm really nervous for as if the Packers
win and the Bucks have a chanceto host, we are absolutely
losing 100.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Yes, We'll be on Saturday?
All of my money, yeah, yes, yes.
That is a great point, chris.
If the Packers somehow win, Iwill be putting all of my money
on the Lions, because there's nochance.
The Bucks are hosting an FCChampionship game Every while.
Can you imagine going?
For the first time in franchisehistory?
Mind you, they've never hostedthe city in FC Championship game

(01:02:37):
.
Imagine this team.
We have this team with BakerMayfield hosting an NFC
Championship game, with aquarter mil on the line and trip
to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
What's he get?
A quarter mil for each playoffEpisode.
Yeah, See championship GreenBay right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Yeah, they went up to Green Bay.
Yeah, a little bit of.
Then, when they won in theSuper Bowl and go to, they went
to Philly.
Okay, shut the bet down.
Yep, that's it for our lifetimehave you got a goal.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
Have you guys thought about the fact that the NFC
South has lasted longer in theseason than the NFC East?
Oh yeah, yes, the NFC releasedit every day, oh, every day.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
So we're all taking 49ers.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
I think, see, I apply the same logic that I did
against with the Ravens to the49ers.
Like everyways, forget how good49ers are.
Everybody's like oh, packersdemolished the Cowboys To me.
You had two teams collapse lastweek Browns, cowboys.
They both fell on their facelike they normally do in the
playoffs.
That's why the Texans andPackers won, so yeah.

(01:03:45):
I think 49ers are gonna.
Yeah, I like.
Now I will say this AaronRodgers was only four against
the Packers with the Packersagainst the 49ers in the
playoffs.
If Jordan Love goes in thereand beats them, that's just a
good thing.
If Jordan Love goes in thereand beats them, that's hilarious
.
I love that.
Yeah, just as another dig toAaron Rodgers If Jordan Love is

(01:04:09):
able to go there and beat them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Can you imagine if the Packers won the Super Bowl?
Oh man, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Oh, that would be so funny, oh my gosh.
Yeah, what's?
I don't think that's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
No, yeah, I guess there's really not much to this
game other than the 49ers areGood.
We kind of expect them to begood with the game, so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
If Dak was just competent in the first half,
like if he was just playingaverage, then I think that was
actually.
That would have been acompetitive game.
But because Dak was justhorrible and like had no
communication with with CD lamband everything was off their
gameplay was terrible yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Yeah, him and CD lamb , where it looked like they were
arguing or had no idea whatthey were doing, and they what
had?
Touchdowns and a straight games.
It looked like they had no ideawhat they were doing, like they
just got back from injury orsomething.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Something happens, there's some, there's something
going on behind the scenesbefore that game that, no, we
don't know about.
Something had to happen, likethat team doesn't just show up
like that.
That was the game.
See, went over to lamb on thebench and started talking to him
right, oh yeah, they were.
They were visibly fighting.
Yeah, on the from the sidelines.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Yeah, yeah, Like Hurts and Goddard.
Did you see that?
Yeah?
I just yeah, I was wonderingwhat that was all about.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, should we move on to the?
Game the wick in the years.
You have a vision around Sunday3 o'clock at Detroit Just like

(01:05:50):
we all, addicted, get out likewe all thought it's that outside
I don't remember.
Man, we got, we got to put theTodd Bowles clip in.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Yeah, just like we all thought began the season,
the bucks are gonna be playingthe NFC divisional round.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Mm-hmm, yeah, it's the lions.
So I think Steve Bucks plus sixand a half, or lions minus six
and a half, the unbiased partyI'd like to get your take here.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Yeah, I don't know, I've been on a here with
underdog is this year.
Oh, oh, I like to hear.
I gotta go bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
I love bucks.
Six and a half I think it'll beI think it'll be touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Yeah, no, you're inside there's.
There's no element there's.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
I bet bucks this past weekend and it worked.
And I bet Steelers and itworked, so we're doing all right
.
It was Steelers plus 15 and ahalf, so I was gonna say they
did not cover.
So I don't know what line yougot yeah, they're missing that
field goal at the end.
Sealed it.
Then I had bucks plus seven anda half, which was an awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Oh, so you didn't actually bet the box.
You tease the box.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Had the bucks plus seven and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Great bet that was a good Smart losing heart breaking
fashion.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
I still got my money and this weekend you could tease
him to plus 14.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
No, I'll be electric.
Well, if you give me a plus 12.
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
I think, though I think they'll keep it within two
touchdowns.
I Don't think we're gonna coversix and a half.
I like the Lions, yeah, the melike.
This is where I don't know.
It's kind of weird.
Like you have the Lionsstorybook season and Baker
Mayfield storybook season,someone is the clock is gonna

(01:07:48):
strike midnight for one of thesetwo teams, and I Don't.
I think the Lions are just amore of a complete team at home,
though that fan that's.
What I worry about is thatenvironment is going to be Crazy
.
Like tickets are like in thethousands to get in.
Like it's insane expensive gameever.

(01:08:11):
It was nuts last week, so canonly that.
Did you see the clip that waslike during the pregame show,
like a full hour and a halfbefore kickoff, and the stadium
was like 80% full, wow it wasthe craziest.
It was like I think you don'troll that said something.
Hey, it's cold outside but yeah, but like people in their seats

(01:08:34):
, like usually, like the peoplejust hanging around the
concourses and whatnot.
No people were like in theirseats, ready to go like an hour
before the game.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
What if they went with the bucks when that game?

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Oh my gosh.
Well then we're gettingdestroyed by Sam Frantan.
I mean, so it's yeah, andPackers, when it's in Tampa,
otherwise it's out Sam Frantan.
Yep, it's a Tampa, yeah, that'swhy I look at this and they

(01:09:07):
lose, get crushed.
You won't put a Super Bowlfavorite in.
Do it on the Niners right now.
You're not gonna get them at abetter value than right now.
I think they're like plus 200.
I Got them in that moonshotparlay.
Yeah, niners.
I just I think everything opensup for the Niners.
Like to me, dallas was theirbiggest competitor in the NAC.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
I've been in a feature on the Kansas City.
Just hope it doesn't hit.
Then the what plus and now yeahthey're.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
They were 10 to 1 before the playoffs.
I think now they're like around6 or 5 to 1.
Yeah, I mean that's.
I just Do but well, we talkedthe script like NFL's got a
script like if the if the chiefsmake it to the Super Bowl, like
not win the Super Bowl, justmake it to the Super Bowl.

(01:09:59):
Something's going on, there'ssomething fishy.
We're talking officiating,we're talking fixes, I don't
know, but they're this team like, oh my gosh, if the bills don't
win this game, america's team.
They are this weekend.
I think so.
Yep, are we moving on to thatone?

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Yeah, what are we Corey?
What did you think?

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
Yeah, pretty much exactly what Andrew's thinking.
I'm Detroit.
I Feel like, if this is, thisis kind of like Whole NFL
narrative, historic NFLnarrative in the Bucks are not
going to be the ones to to stopthat.
So yeah, yeah, I think, totouchdowns, ish.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
I think it's close.
Victor, what do you think aboutthis game?
I think it could be when atouchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Mm-hmm yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
I could all, I could all say the Lions Winning on
like a last, I can feel, orsomething like in fourth quarter
the two touchdowns.
Yeah, you just said no.
No, I could see that.
I don't think that's gonnahappen, but I could see that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
But I could see the winning by two touchdowns the
Bucks Alliance oh yeah, I thinkimagine the Bucks win by two.
You said the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Lions are not.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
By two touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Yeah, I did think they could beat the Eagles like
they did.
I thought the Eagles wereplaying so poorly at the end of
season I thought that was just adead man walking.
Yeah, like I think any teamcould have beat the Eagles
catastrophic collapse.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
I was a little man, sort of ten and out it not ten
and one one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Ten and one, yep.
After they beat the Bills andthat crazy overtime game in the
rain, they won what?
Two games at the end of theseason?
That's it be the Giants.
Yeah, you won't get no one gamedown the stretch, I think.
Yeah, giants beat them too.
Yeah, that's, oh my gosh, allright game of the week.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
America's game Yep um , I Love the Chiefs to win this
game.
I think plus three is an easybet.
Chiefs won this game.
It's my home's.
It's what my home's does.
This is what the bills do.
I'll be rooting for the bills,but I think this is gonna be a
huge letdown spot.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Sorry, I'm just taking bills.
I'm just taking bills.
Money line Could be a shootout.
You think they win.
I think the bills win.
I think they finally pullthrough.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
I hope they do, but I think the game being in Buffalo
is very significant.
I think the bills are Playingsome of their best football
right now.
Chiefs are probably not agree.
They just beat the Dolphins inthe cold Dolphins finesse bitch

(01:12:57):
team.
So I think yeah, yeah kind ofthis is kind of like the oh yeah
, the Chiefs actually aren'tthat good this year, and we see
why, so I'm taking Buffalo.
I.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Look at this game and Look at the bills and their
fans.
I just, if they lose to theChiefs again In the playoffs and
now they got them at home,right, like I feel like every
bills cheese game has been inKansas City for whatever reasons
, like NFL, like what are wedoing?
They're always send their head.
This is their moment.

(01:13:31):
This is it.
Man Like this is.
I thought last year, was it,but you know now I'll know what
happened there this year.
You got you're on this.
This run to you somehow win thedivision, you get the two-seat.
I mean they were freaking outthe playoff race.
Yep, like in week 12.
It was insane that what theyhad to do to get there.

(01:13:52):
If they don't win this game,though, man, like, blow it up.
I, I do you like you have, wealmost have to right.
Like when you were saying arethere any other coaching
vacancies that could open up?
I mean, if, if, mcdermott, ifso, if they lose and it's like
not close, I think this is, thisis all in vacancy, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
I agree, I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
That's tough.
Yeah, I guess the time youmentioned it too earlier, the
timing of the coaching market to, if there was ever gonna be a
Good opportunity to changesomething up.
Bill Bellachick, that's that'stough oh.
No way.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
If it can, if a vacancy opens in Buffalo, though
, like that's gotta be wheregrapes goes right yeah, I think
it would.
I mean it would be the best job.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, bring DerekHenry, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, so I.

(01:14:59):
I Went, left my gut and I put apretty reasonably sized wager
for myself on two and a half, IGuess, chris, and in your I did
a five-unit play with your unitcount.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
It's okay, my unit is five bucks I.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Didn't go too crazy because I don't like betting
early in the week, I like bybetting late in the week.
But I just had a gut like aknee jerk reaction when the
schedule came out and I was likePutting this on the line if the
bills don't win this game, it'sover.
Like this is a must, like thisis the biggest must win for that
franchise ever.
Like.
And then I will say this ifthey do beat the chiefs, I'm

(01:15:42):
turn around and I'm flipping itand I'm putting whoever they're
playing, putting the money onthem, because this is the super
goal for the bills.
They will get up for this game.
I worry about the letdown spotthe week after.
So I I think the bills win thisweek.
I think they will lose the nextweek.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
No, I think it's the Texans.
Yeah, what if it's the Texans?
It's not the Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
But CJ Stroud is a rookie.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
It's not going to be the Texans.
I'm just, I'm sorry.
It's not going to be the Texans, it's going to be the Ravens.
It's the Ravens 49er Super BowlLock it in.
All right, we already saw thescript, it finished.
I was, I'm going to bring, I'mgoing to bring that up, but
finish the, finish thepredictions here real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Vic, what do you got on this last game?
Bill's, bill's chiefs, I'mgoing.
Chiefs plus three.
I think they win, though Go, go, bill's with the points.
Oh, let's go.
Okay, so you all three of youguys are on, or see, are you on
bills Minus three as well.
Okay, so just me All, right,okay.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
So going to the, going to the predetermined Super
Bowl?
Do you guys believe in any ofthis conspiracy theory of Super
Bowl logos and the colors thatare in there and Yep, yep, yeah,
that's exactly why this is redand purple, bucks, bucks.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
If it's the box dude, holy shit, what is that I got?
They didn't even have SuperBowl matchup odds anymore.
They might not, but, oh my God,we got to get a Pantone check
on those colors.
Now, speaking of that, Stephen,did you see where they released
an alternate logo and there wasthat whole narrative about, oh,

(01:17:25):
the alternate logo.
It looks like it's going to bechiefs cowboys, because it was
blue?
I didn't see red bills yeah,bills Bucks, there you go, you
sure?
Or fails 49ers?
Yeah, everybody thought billswhen that went up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Bucks are 10 to 120 NFC If you parlay them and do
Ravens, Ravens and Bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Oh, here it is.
Super Bowl matchups.
Yep, they do have them.
Ravens Bucks is 22 to one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
I was saying that.
I'm sorry, I was literallysaying that same thing 22 to one
.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Bills Bucks is 34 to one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Texans Bucks 14,200.
Yeah, 101.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Strauss would keep you, though that's so
embarrassing for the Bucks.
The Texans Bucks is a biggerlong shot than Texans Packers.
They think the Packers arebetter.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
What's the?
Same.
Yeah, they're different becauseI got Bucks and Packers at 10
to one.
Oh, I know 140.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Yeah, Let me see what is Baker's Super Bowl MVP 40 to
one Baker Super Bowl MVP Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Travis Kelsey, 10,000 to one oh.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
So when Super Bowl MVP?
I don't know about that.
Wow I mean that's script worthy.
That is script worthy.
That's a good point, Kelsey,but he's had such a bad year.
That's the other thing Likethis is all the one distraction
for him.
Right.
Here's what's going to happenChiefs are going to make it,
travis is going to have a mehfirst half.

(01:19:09):
Taylor's going to show up outthere with Usher at halftime and
then Kelsey's in the secondhalf.
Mvp.
Did you guys see?
I think it was like earlier inthe season that this girl had
like a Tic Taco viral where shelike just scripted the whole
year talking about what wasgoing to happen in the NFL

(01:19:31):
because of Taylor Swift'sinvolvement now with the K&C
Chiefs, and her prediction wasthat they would be a rematch in
the Super Bowl Chiefs Eagles andthen halftime the Chiefs would
be winning and then she would,because this girl was the Eagles
fan.
So then Taylor Swift wouldbreak up with Kelsey At halftime
so that Kelsey's upset andfrustrated and the Chiefs would
blow the lead, that Eagles wouldcome back and win the Super

(01:19:52):
Bowl.
Did he retire or not, travis?
Yeah, Did he actually retire?
Did he say it on the podcast?
I thought he he like I don'tknow if he.
He backtracked a little, butyeah, I think he's done.
He should have just said itright after the game Like, hey,

(01:20:13):
I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
I bet if they fire Sirianni and bring in someone
and he likes who that is, he'dcome back.
Well, he comes back.
I think he's done it,sirianni's coach for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Yeah, is AJ Brown retiring Because Sirianni he?
Already did.
Dude, I can't, oh my gosh, Ijust what happened.
That team is just amazing.
That was awesome.
Just to see it, they were thehard knocks team.
That would have been funny Eachepisode.

(01:20:47):
What did that last one?
Oh my gosh, what an appointmenttelevision watching.
What happened to them that week?
How did they lose the Cardinals?
What the?
I'll tell you why they lost theCardinals.
That's because, uh, tylerMurray strolled in and Sydney
Karrowsky jersey, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
That was awesome.
Yeah, it was so awesome.
Is he?
Is he like a fan of thepenguins or was he just trolling
?
It was a troll?

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
No, I don't even know where he's from, to be honest,
I don't know either.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
That was awesome yeah .
The fact that he won that gametoo, yep Good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
So who's your guy's Super Bowl pick?
I already said mine.
Let's update Super Bowl picks.
I can match up, match up in theSuper Bowl.
I got Ravens 49ers.
I've been on that sinceprobably like December.
I just thought those two teamsseparated.

Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
I'll go Bills, niners and Niners win.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Yeah 49ers, chiefs, 49ers.
When I'm going Bills 49ers,that'd be fun.
It'd be a fun watch, yeah, whowins.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
My heart wants to say the Bills, but my brain's
probably saying 49ers.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
If it's not the Bucks , I'd love to see Lions Bills.
I think that would be so.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
Oh, that would be the most fun in Vegas.
Lions and Bills fans in Vegas,oh my God.
Paddle with the fan bases.
Yeah, that's my dream SuperBowl prediction.
I want that to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Not the Bucks.
The Bucks run in your dreamSuper Bowl scenario.
I couldn't even dream of themto be in the Super Bowl this
year.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
man, they had me bought in when we had Brady.
I could see that.
You know, every game was justlike it was like I don't even
remember.
Well, like our feeling at thetime.
We were like what is happeningto this team Because the
turnaround was so quick, butthis year I don't, I don't, I
don't see it.
I mean, we watched that teamput up nine points against the

(01:22:48):
Panthers.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
They knew that's all that was needed, and we needed
three, yeah, yeah.
So, victor, what is your,what's your Super Bowl matchup?

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
Niners bills.
Okay.
Good pick.
Vic Winner Niners Great pick.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
So do we all have.
I had Niners, victor had Niners.
Yep, we all have Niners to win.
I got Ravens To win.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
I think it's the Harbaugh year.
Harbaugh's, we're gonna wincollege and pro no.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
That'd be pretty cool .

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
What a, what a family dinner that would be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think what happens?
I think Harbaugh goes the NFLbecause I think he's wanting to.
He wanted to get one with hisbrother again.
He wanted to get back in thering.
He's got the college footballchampionship.
Now he's got to get the SuperBowl.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Yep, good news for Penn State.
Maybe they might beat Michiganonce.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Well then, I'm playing next year, so oh, yeah,
wait, do they not play next year?
Oh, because we got USC UCLAtaking their spot.
We still play Ohio State nextyear.
But yeah, you got to play OhioState Michigan next year.
We don't play that next year orthe year after it's 26.

(01:24:12):
We play Michigan again.
Wow, holy crap, damn.
I had not realized that collegefootball is going to be so
weird next year.
I mean it's kind of like Fortwo years.
So yeah, I mean collegefootball is going to be like
you're recognizable.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Were you worried about James Franklin taking the
Alabama job?
I?

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
was going to ask that Damn it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
I was going to drive him there myself.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Drop Kenny off somewhere along the way.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Kenny off in Carolina and keep driving down to
Alabama.
I love that.
His agent like corrected thebuyout.
Did you see that tweet wherethey tweeted like the buyouts of
all the coaches and like theyhad like it got tweeted?
I think it was Pete Thamel, butlike it, clearly the agent
called him.
It's like no, it's buyouts muchhigher than that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
No they didn't include them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Oh, they took his name off.
Is that what?
What?

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
They didn't have his name in and then they had to
edit the tweet and include hisbuyout.
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Yeah, you know what's crazy about that whole thing is
.
So Jimmy Sexton is the he's.
I think it's.
Yeah, I think that's his name.
He's the agent for Saban, forNorvell, for who's the other guy
that got the?
He's Doe Bear.
The guy that got the got gotthe job, dan Lanning, like he.

(01:25:39):
He literally orchestratedeverything that was going on
there, got all of his guysraises and extensions, therefore
gave himself raises, right, andthen he gets the guy the job.
I mean, it's just insane.
Do you think Saban is done,done, yeah, yeah, I think he's
done.
I think I think collegefootball has changed so much

(01:26:00):
that you're the, the old guardis going to start facing out
because it's just, yeah, it'snot even the same sport right
now.

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
Well, you have to like there's a whole free agency
now that you have to try torecruit from.
Yeah, yeah.
These coaches that aretraveling all the time trying to
keep guys, trying to get guys.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Yeah, I could see Saban maybe going back to the
pros Maybe, but no, I think he'sprobably good.
I honestly I think he's goingto be Lee Corso on college game
day.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
I don't know if he's got the personality for anything
like that.
I don't know, I feel like he'lljust like go out like a.
Tv.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
It's terrible.
It's terrible, so don't make itwork.
Who was that?
Where he filled in forCollinsworth?
Oh my God, that is so bad.
What was the game?
Oh my, I think it was Dungeyand Jason Garrett doing a
football game one time and itwas like the worst broadcast you
could possibly imagine.

(01:27:04):
Oh my gosh, yeah, no, I think,I think.

Speaker 4 (01:27:10):
I feel like he'll just like hang around in the
shadows and help.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Yeah, dober like that .
I just it's such a weirdcombination.
Like this guy, what a come upfor this guy.
He's North Dakota guy, goes toIndiana as the offensive
coordinator, gets panics to goto where he went where Fresno, I
think he was there for it.
And then he went to Washington,grabs panics, yeah, and then

(01:27:37):
all of a sudden he's in thecollege football play up and
then a year later he's coachingAlabama.
I mean it's insane.
What a career path in the lastfive years for him.

Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
So do we agree that Alabama is going to be terrible
in like four years?

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
Oh, I was thinking like four months.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
I was gonna say where are we gonna go?

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
I think, I think there'll be a 500 football team
this year.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
Yeah, I would say anyone that put a future on
Georgia to win the title beforesaving retired.
They got in the market such agood time because I think they
were like four to one, five toone.
Now they're like two to one.
Yeah, the whole time I was justbeen like please go get Kirby,
alabama, please go take Kirby.

(01:28:19):
I see what I want, george.
I just want everything.
I'm so glad I'm not there whenGeorgia was good, like I was
there when Mark Rick was there,so it was awesome.
Like Mark Rick went you knowone, nine, 10 games every year
and always collapse at the end.
It was awesome, but Kirby isjust.
They're the new Bama.
That's what's so freaking.
Annoying is that they are goingto be Bama now for the next

(01:28:42):
decade.
It's a done deal.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
Yeah, it was like Bama Clemson and then now it's
Georgia.
Yeah, because you talk aboutadapting to the new game.
There's an example of someonenot adapting to the new game is
Dabbo.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
That would have been so funny if Bama hired Dabbo.
Their fan base just lost it.
Like the city of Tuscaloosa ison fire.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
Really quickly.
This is probably getting into awhole another episode, but
let's not lose track of whatTexas is doing.
Texas is loading up right now.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
Yeah, yeah, quinn, you were just coming back.
Right, he's coming back I.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Tor, you think Arch is going to.
I just you think Arch is goingto sit for two years, I think so
.
I guess I mean like it's makinga million dollars as a backup
in college.
It's insane.

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
I feel like if I mean I feel like Sarkeesian and like
one of the Mannings is in hisear, a little bit to the point
where if he wanted to come backand play, it's either approved
by the Mannings or he'lltransfer somewhere else.
Yeah.
I mean Arch is next.
What a free agent that would be.
Arch Manning on the move.

(01:29:59):
If you're Sarkeesian, you makesure Arch Manning is happy.
Before you were, right now yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
Yeah, what's Penn State looking like coming up for
this year?
They, he's going back right?

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
Well, he can only go up from where he stops.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Who's the who's the running back that you said, like
last year or two years ago, waslike the freshman next, saquon
Andrew.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
Green saying that was Singleton Singleton.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
Is he a junior coming into this year?
I think so, right yeah.
Is he still a lead?
Is he good yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Oh yeah, Penn State's always got the athletes.
What's crazy is they finallygot a five star quarterback,
like a top tier quarterback, andhe just I don't know what
happened to him last year Likethe dude, was just so just
erratic.
Like I praise God, big arm.
He's just so inaccurate.
How many games were you he'sthrowing?

(01:30:57):
And you're just a dude.
But who was that?
Even to Right, when was thatgoing?
Yeah?
He wasn't even like a you knowhe was short or he was.
You know he overthrew thepassword or whatever it was dude
, there's nobody over there.
So I don't know, but here's themove for Penn State Go get Ken

(01:31:17):
Dorsey.
Convince Ken Dorsey to comeback to college.
He was the OC for Josh Allen.
Okay, he got Josh Allen to beJosh Allen.
He could do that with your hour.
Well, they did go.
Yeah, I haven't even heard namesfloating around for they're
thinking of yet, but I don'tknow.

(01:31:39):
I don't even know who.
Andy Cole to Nikki, I've neverheard of this guy.
That was your, that was your OClast year.
Geez, yeah, you gotta getsomeone else in there.
Well, we fired her OC and thenlost her DC to Duke.
Manny Diaz.
Yeah, manny was a good coach.
That's a.
He's a good.
Yeah, he's a good coach.

(01:32:00):
Oh, here they is.
Oh, never mind, ucla hiredformer Penn State quarterback
Billy Fessler as their offensecoordinator Interesting, yeah,
no, I think.
I think Ken Dorsey is a hotname for OC's, even in the NFL
too.
I still believe he's, he's goodLike.
Yeah, I don't know whathappened in the beginning of the
season with the Bills and theyfired them and obviously it

(01:32:23):
worked out for the Bills, but Istill think he's a good coach.
Maybe the Steelers I don't know, I'm outside the organization,
so might be in play yeah,Whatever happened to real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
Whatever happened to Chase Claypool?
Like I didn't know it wouldhappen to me.
He just disappeared.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
This is hilarious Got the Claypool curse, you know.
Claypool curse.
Left.
The Steelers went to the Bears,then the Bears sucked.
Traded them to the Dolphins,then the Dolphins sucked.
So if you look at before andafter, team had a winning record
.
Dolphins yeah.
Dolphins right now.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
Yeah, McDaniel's first press conference was like,
how's Chase Claypool?
And he's like, yeah, he'sreally fast.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Yes.
And that was basically, theymade him tied in, though right
Then they played him a tied in,did they?
I thought they moved on that.
Yeah, you have that drop in theend zone in that game against
the Bills, weak 18 or whatever.
Yeah, he's an awful man.
He was like a rookie one hitwonder kind of guy like just

(01:33:32):
great rookie year.
Terrible.
Like Michael Clayton there's agood name, there's a throwback
Goat of rookie and nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
He was awesome his first year in the uplift.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
Yep, yeah, I would not want that guy on my team.
Geez, I still worry aboutpicking sometimes.
Stephen, he's got all thetalent in the world.
He's just a head case.
Yep, yeah, I think that's whyyou need a Vrable.
A Vrable, a Belichick one,that's like dude, I'm not afraid

(01:34:05):
to bench your ass.
The problem I think they hadthis year was they just had
nobody else to put in there.
But I think you know you buildit up and you're saying dude,
it's, you're sitting Like yourantics and you're going on
social media after what, threeweeks into the season, and
you're deleting all your stealerstuff.
And then he comes down and saysoh, he was.
I don't even remember what hesaid, I was having a Count like

(01:34:28):
that dude.
But then you know he was themedia spotlight up here.
And then he came out and hadthat two touchdown game with
Mason and who was that?
Against Bengals, I think.
Yeah, came out, had that game,and you know you could see him

(01:34:49):
over there Bangles, bangles,chirp chirp me you know, talk
about me or whatever, but Idon't know.
I by no means do I want to losethem.
I want them to work on them.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
I love his stat line for that game for catches, 195
yards and two touchdowns.
So what about?
What about the auntie Johnson?
Because remember midway throughthe year he was like quitting
on plays.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
Well, he was all here without a single touchdown and
then it's impressive.
It's impressive this year, yeah,cause last game of the season
last year he caught the twopoint conversion.
That was his only reception, orscoring reception, I guess I
should say.
And yeah, I don't know he's,you know both him and Pickens
have have both been, you know,kind of scrutinized for not

(01:35:41):
blocking, not caring, not Notseeing the ball.
Yeah, you know, especially,he's not a rookie anymore, you
know he's, he's a veteranreceiver and it's time to act
like one.
What about, um, what aboutFryer Muth?
Is he staying?
Is he like under?

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
contract.
He's the guy.
I think he's got one more year.
Yeah, I think he has one moreyear.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
I like him.
He, his problem is he's not arookie anymore.
He, his problem now is justinjuries.
I mean he's, he's getting a lot, so it's tough to say, but
nobody you know beneath him hasreally has stepped up.
I mean they, they got whatHayward and that Washington, and
you know they're young, somaybe they'll you know, come to

(01:36:22):
think.
I hated when they got rid ofZach Gentry though, because he,
you know, wasn't the bestscoring tight end, but he did
what he needed to.
He blocked, he was, he was abig body out there, but who
picked?

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
him up.
I don't even know who that is.
Uh no, he's on the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
I think he went to the lot.
No, he went to the Bengalspractice squad and then the
Raiders picked him up when uh,what's his name Go hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
Well, I think that about does it for us.
Um, yeah, just wanted to ask,so you were on TV this weekend.
No, what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
there, maybe up here into the week.
So uh, you know working thenetworks here.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
Yeah, I was like this .
This big time moment we had atelevision star on the show.
Was that a big um?

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
yeah, they were just.
They were just lucky theycaught me before the game and
not halfway through when I was,you know, seemed pretty
optimistic.
In the video A couple of rumplemen shots deep, but uh, yeah,
it was.
Uh, I was optimistic going in,but yeah, it was so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Because you're like, yeah, we just saw the packers do
it.
Uh, we could, we could totallydo it.
I'm like, oh, this must be wellbefore the game started.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
Yeah, it was well before the game started.
But yeah, want to thank you foruh for having me on here.
It's been fun.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
We're ever need a guest appearance on that, so
yeah, maybe when we get down touh NHL playoffs coming down that
road, or maybe, as the uh, asthe bucks keep wanting, we'll
see, yeah, but uh, yeah, I thinkit does it for us.
We let's make sure you had onelast thing to say.
Did I know Victor?

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
Oh, victor's going to close us out?
Yeah, on your.
Is that just like a random findmy iPhone?

Speaker 3 (01:38:11):
Yeah, I actually have no I it does like a screenshot
of a map.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
I never noticed that, victor, you care to explain.
It's just a random screenshotof a map.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
I think I did a few review on here and it was just
like I was just playing aroundwith the picture, it was like oh
, this is the only picture Ihave on my phone right now.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
Nice, I'm taking this photo, yeah, well, yeah, no,
yeah, I appreciate you having on.
We can, uh, do it again, but Ithink that does it for us With
that, with that, with that, withthat.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
With that With that Go big blue, All right guys.

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