Stephanie – Podcast Hacks and Tools, Donald Trump, Epstein, Israel, Newsom, and the American Political Landscape - STAG

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Thanks for your support. Now here's the interview,
Stephanie. OK, so we were talking about
the, this setup and how the essentially the editing part
takes so much time. So I wanted to explain, since
we're doing this live now, I wanted to explain this stuff
because people ask me about thisall the time.

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And it's funny because I, I literally give this information
away. I, I won't give my like quote,
personal information away, but I'll give out like all the
systems and stuff and the tools I use because it's, it's public
knowledge. Honestly, it's all out there and
but I'll have people who like will come in like they're spy
agents and like they'll try to get an interview.
I'm not saying this is you. I'm saying that it's happened

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before and it's really funny andthey.
What are they trying to spy on? Like what are they trying?
I know they they're trying to get the set up.
They're trying to get like how Ido things, how I all this stuff.
Google it dude. Yeah.
And then what will happen? It's it's really funny.
What will happen is like, I'll see somebody who's like and
choosing people were like, I'm just trying to get started or
whatever. And instead of just asking me,

(01:27):
'cause I'll just tell you, there's a whole post on Reddit
about this because I broke it down for everybody because it
kept happening. And yeah, it's really funny.
And then they'll like, they'll come in and I, there's some
unreleased interviews that I've done with people who, who've
done this and then their whole setup right after that is
mimicking mine, which is cool. More power to you.

(01:47):
I've made a post so you can do that.
It's on Reddit. You can go read it right now.
So. Yeah, instead of like, like,
yeah, snooping and whatever. That's crazy.
Yeah, it's, it's just like manufactured drama and like it's
just being extra for no reason, right.
And yeah. Definitely, definitely.
Totally. I don't know why.
Why are people so extra nowadays?

(02:08):
I don't know. Yeah, it's the thing.
It's a thing. It's literally a privilege and
entitlement, right? So we, everything has gotten so
good, right, that you have to like when your life is really,
really good, you have to find problems because we have to
constantly fix things, right? And like, it's it we're trying
to tackle like that which has not been tackled, right?
It's the next peak of the mountain.
And unfortunately for the Western countries and 1st world

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countries or whatever, or GlobalNorth as they call them
sometimes now, it's like it's just drama, right?
And we have to manufacture it so.
Yeah, we're a drama of like engaging nation people we love
to, we're drawn to drama. Right.
So to answer your question aboutthe the setup and how the

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editing takes a lot of a lot of time.
When I set this up, it wasn't I almost had it perfect from the
big get go for myself. I didn't view it as what do I
need to like? What are the best podcasters
doing or what do I need to make this work or all of that.
I said, how do I want this to work for me?
Because I'm I don't want to spend a lot of time I editing is

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not fun for me. I don't want a big setup.
I don't want a big production I don't want.
So I, I listed all the things I don't want and then I listed all
the things I do want and I wanted to streamline it.
I want it to be really easy. I wanted to focus on creating
content. I wanted to focus on talking to
people and I wanted to make it easy as possible to do that
either from my my quote studio or from my phone on the go.

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And to do that is exactly how I set it up.
And so I literally do not edit anything other than like the
very beginning, which is usuallylike ours took a little bit
longer because we were doing a little bit extra introduction
with each other. It's usually like 2 minutes.
Sometimes it's like I'll say thename and we go it it right, like

(04:05):
it just depends, right? We do the release and then and
then it's go time and you know, some people don't like that.
That's my setup. That's how I want to do it.
And honestly it the most time that I spend on this podcast is
doing the interview and then after that, the second most time
I spent on this podcast is doingthe the show notes for the

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guest. But other than that, like
honestly it I don't spend and that's maybe like half an hour
at Max, but other than that I don't spend a ton of time doing
this. Yeah, I totally feel the not
spending a lot of time talking beforehand and then jumping into
it because I always I always tell Mike whenever I have
guests, I'm like, OK, I don't want to ask you all these

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questions that have to have you repeat yourself.
You know, you can tell I've been, I can ask you now, you can
tell me these answers now while we're talking.
But then when we're recording, I'll have to ask you all over
again. So, you know, let's just hit
recording, see what happens. That does add up to, you know,
more editing. But like I said, I do like the

(05:13):
the outcome of my content. So I guess it's kind of worth
it. Like it, like I said, for me,
the editing, it's not my favorite thing either.
And sometimes it is very time consuming but.
Also one thing that you do that I don't do and that I I'm not
even considering anytime soon isthe video aspect which that
takes a a shit ton of time to edit for sure.

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I never like I didn't think thatI would even incorporate.
It didn't come to me as far as like, oh, you know, eventually
I'll get to to the video aspect of it.
It just kind of came about one time when I was like, OK, I have
to show them this, I have to do video.
And so it was kind of rough thatfirst time and second time

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probably, and maybe still is, I don't know.
But but yeah, it's just something I kind of jumped into.
And I only do it like when I need to.
I still do just audio only, especially if I have gas,
because I don't need to, you know, do video for that kind of
thing. But if it's if it's something
that I need to show somebody, then, you know, show the show
the audience, then yeah, I'm going to do.
I just jumped right into it and I was like, what?

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Well, there it is. Take it or leave it, you know.
That's pretty cool. So yeah, from my perspective,
the only place I see where that is like where I'm like, man, I'm
at a massive disadvantage is social media.
So incorporating video and social media is probably like
King right Where and if you. Well, on YouTube.

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That helps too, right? Yeah.
But like other than that, like Ijust run a straight audio only
we don't really have social media.
So I think we have like a YouTube that we were trying to
get going and like it just didn't work out because no one
followed up on it. But I mean.
You know a lot of people. Sorry.
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Finish.
No, I mean, other than that it'spretty straightforward.

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Good. Yeah, a lot of people still like
their podcasts like audio only because, you know, they feel
like I've, you know, ask people.I'm not afraid to ask people.
I'm like, boy, you know, what doyou feel?
How do you feel? And, you know, I've heard a lot
about people saying, well, it's not a podcast if it's if there's
video involved, but a lot of people say the opposite.

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So it's, you know, you can't please everybody, but The thing
is about, you know, putting yourcontent out to different
platforms. Is that like Spotify and, you
know, I heard these things, Amazon, Apple, whatever.
They don't have the video capabilities like YouTube does.
So it's kind of nice to have both, you know, best of both
worlds, I guess. But like I said, I just I keep

(07:44):
it to audio unless I have to. I don't know about Apple yeah,
we just we just started doing Apple, but the I know Spotify
has a whole like upload video thing now and I don't really
yeah, we don't really use it though, obviously, but yeah,
it's. See, I have a by host pushes it

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out. I just you know, I I just put it
on on Libsim and it's pushes it out to Spotify, iheart, Amazon,
Apple, YouTube, blah blah, all of it.
And the only one I really followup on is because it's so easy is
the YouTube one. That's not really that I, you
know, that's yeah, I don't, I really don't even know what I'm
doing on Spencer. And the other ones like I

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honestly don't, I just follow, Ifollow up with, I track the
YouTube because it's so easy with the analytics and the and
you know that. And if you're, if you're
promoting, it's like, OK, well, you can listen here.
You can listen here, you can listen here.
I just, I'm like, OK, just go toYouTube, you know what I mean?
So. That's interesting because I, I
came back to Spotify, I tried something else.

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I tried, I can't remember what it's called and I was like, this
is awful and I'm paying a lot ofmoney for not a lot of extra
stuff here. And so I came back to Spotify
because I once when it was anchor, I had a show like years
ago and we stopped doing it. And then it's to me Spotify is
just like literally you post, you add your stuff, you and

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that's it. You just upload, post and like
you're done. Like that's it.
Well, that's what I do with mine, like my with lips in, but
it pushes it out to all of them for me.
Like I don't have to do anythingbut put it yeah, yeah, so.
And like I said, like I don't even track the other ones.
I mean, it pushes it out there for me.
I know I'm there. I just, I just don't track them

(09:35):
like I do YouTube. I, I go on YouTube like every
day. And obviously to for shorts and
things, you know what I mean? That's, that's kind of how you
get it out there though, too. And like you said, you don't
really do all the social media stuff that everybody says you
need to do to, to grow as a channel.
And it is kind of working all these, the shorts that I've been

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doing because at first, you know, I didn't know what I was
doing even when I started the podcast, much less all the extra
stuff, the shorts and all that crap, you know?
So I know as I'm going here, it's like, OK, I see this short.
Oh my gosh, that got a lot of you.
This one got like 5 and then this one got like 1000 something
or you know what I mean? It's like, OK, yeah, I don't

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know what I'm doing, but I'm, you know, learning as I go here.
Yeah, no. It's kind of interesting.
To see that YouTube has that thing that like TikTok has where
it, but it's good for reach. Like if you're new, you can
really reach people quickly. And I mean, 5 views, I know that
these days, five years doesn't sound like a lot, especially

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when like, you know, two of those are like people you know,
or something. But like that's, that's still
like 5 more views on something that you didn't have before,
right? And so that's cool that you're
working, that's working out for you.
Yeah. It's it's, it's kind of a learn
as you go process. It's, you know, nobody's a
really expert. You see all these videos that

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are like, Hey, follow this, you know, follow this rhythm and,
and you'll be able to do what I'm doing and things like that,
you know, follow this guideline,but it's just different.
Everything, you know, that it depends on your niche, It
depends on your hashtags, it depends on your audience.
It depends on your quality of, you know, content.
It's just there's a lot that goes into it.

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So Stephanie, what is it that got you into this space?
What drove you kind of into likethe exploration of, you know,
the world of podcasting or maybecontent creating?
I know that you have the from Dirt We grow podcast, correct?
That's that's the name. Yep, Yep, from dirt we grow.
I just started it in January, the very end of January.

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And no, it wasn't because of this current administration, but
it just happened to be a good timing.
So I'll I'll lead up to that. You asked me how I got into it.
So I'm old, right? I'm 45 years old.
I'm a disabled veteran. I can't work.
Thanks for your. Service I'm I'm sorry.
I said thank you for your service.

(11:58):
Oh you're welcome. Thank you for saying so.
You are welcome. I sit at home with my babies.
My I got 2 girls so you know, clean cook and I get tired of
that. I get tired of being the
housewife thing, you know, and for years, not for years for for
a while now, I've been noticing how just messed up politics are

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like completely. I don't care what side of the
aisle you you're on. And I'm not trying to get all
politically here on you, but it's just, it's just messed up
either way it goes. So I'm like, you know what, I
like to speak up on things because I'm that I'm that type
of person. And you know what, if somebody's
going to listen or not, I'm going to speak my mind.
And and I, you know, my friends get tired of hearing, you know,

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I don't want to talk to people that are right here in front of
me all, all the time about it. I I'm like, she'd do a podcast.
And you know, at first it was started out like a pipe dream
kind of thing, you know, like, yeah, that'll never happen.
And you're going, how do you do a podcast?
I don't even know how to do that.
I don't know how to get started.But the more I thought about it,
the more I'm like, why the heck not?
All I do is sit at home with a laptop and, you know, a voice.

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So. OK, yeah, that's all.
Yeah, that's all you need. And I'm like, I don't even care
if anybody's listening. I just got to get it out because
this is getting ridiculous. And then like I said, so it
wasn't specifically because of this current administration, but
it just happened to be good timing that that I kind of like
did it. Like I jumped into it.

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Like I said, I'm learning as I go.
So I'm like, you know what, I'm just going to start talking.
And if people start listening, even better, you know.
Yeah. So did you ever have did you
have a podcast before this this?No, no, that's my very first
one. Yeah, that's I yeah, I was, I
was barely on social media before that, like, you know, my

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Facebook and I'm like good, you know, once in a while I'll go on
there and just, I don't know, for craps and giggles, you know,
but yeah, I've, I've never, I'vebarely was on even social media.
Now I have to learn all this TikTok and Snapshot and X and
Reddit, and now there's this lemonade that people are asking
me to join, follow me on. And I'm like, what is this crap?

(14:10):
You know, I don't even know. Gosh, there's too much.
It's so much. It's like more than a full time
job. But like I said, I don't have
one of those. So this is mine that I'm, you
know, volunteering for because I'm not getting paid yet.
I say yet. I say yet.
Yeah, I mean, it's, it's totallypossible.
I think. I think when it's harder, when

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people don't carve out their goals right.
Like if, if I it's like going tothe grocery store hungry, right?
And you don't have a shopping list.
It's like you're just getting every right.
You're coming home with nothing or like things you don't need
or, or, but you, you also don't go to this grocery store and
like pick everything out of every aisle and you know right.
So like some social media is notnecessary.

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Some tools are not necessary some.
I see where you're going. Right.
And so it's like if you're trying to do something and
execute something very specific,then you would just cater your
your, your efforts toward that, towards that so that you can
achieve your optimal outcome, right and your ultimate outcome
and goal. And so it's, it's cool that like

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people explore and like go into like the new stuff, but there's
always to your point, there's always something new.
There's always like another platform.
There's always another tool. There's always this like, oh,
the next best thing. There's always, there's been
like from the history of like man marketing like.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
There's always going to be the next best thing, right?
But it's like trial and error. Like, you know, I got to try

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this platform and see, OK, if I don't, you know, if that's not
catching and I'll try this one or, you know, you got to see
what works for you and and you're like I said, your niche.
It all depends on your on every.100% different strokes for
different folks, right? Yeah, Yeah, right.
So, so if you had to pinpoint 11catalyst or one goal of your of

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your show, what, what do you think that would be?
What is it that you're trying toaccomplish with that
specifically? I know the politics stuff, OK.
Change like change, tear down and rebuild Because nothing.
Interesting you think the whole system is broken.

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Is that the? Whole system, the whole
everything, education, healthcare, judicial, law
enforcement, politics, every, everything is broken.
So do you have a political leaning specifically is that or
are you? Did I mean I was never, never

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conservative or anything. I was never like, and I don't, I
don't mean to say it like that'sit kind of is a terrible thing
right now, but it it wasn't likea terrible thing before.
It's just your your point of view.
It's that it's it's got a lot todo with how you were raised.
It's where, where you were raised.
But it, but I never considered myself specific like political

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at all really, even though people even ask me like you were
in the Army. How are you not political?
And I'm like, well, I didn't join for that reason, you know,
but I never. So yes, I'm left and I'm
definitely liberal, but there's things that you can cherry pick,
you know, you could. There's things I agree with in
this one. And I'm not like totally left
and I'm not totally liberal and I'm never going to be right,

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which is wrong. So you know I'm not.
I'm right, but not right side. OK, so, so essentially you view
you view the right as like just staunchly like wrong and not
correct now? Because yeah, yeah, it's
different. It's completely different from a

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year ago, you know. OK, so like like now.
Now, like, OK, yeah. So just because of how extreme
he makes it, like he pushes it to be that way.
He pushes the the hit. Oh, my God, these, these, you
know, they're terrorists. They're domestic terrorists.

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The left side of it. Are you kidding me?
Like, come on. Like really?
Yeah, because I, I mean, politically I don't, I don't.
I've never really picked a side.I, I think for myself, it was,
I, I really, really view it as one massive game for political
power, right, And to just have control of the levers.

(18:28):
And to me it's always been two cheeks on the same ass viewing
the same shit out of the same asshole.
That's always how I viewed it then, basically.
That's what I'm saying. Like it's broken all around, no
matter what side of the aisle you're on.
But continue, please. Yeah, no, no, you're fine.
I I respect everyone's views as far as like everyone's entitled
to their own opinion and whatever.

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And it's I just, it's, I never got caught in the the
ideological capture of it all. And so and and some people don't
like me for even saying that I just don't have a side to, you
know, a dog in any fight, right.And it's like.
You don't have to. Right.

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I think that there's other things that we can point to, you
know, like, OK, well, something's broken and I don't
have to pick a side to say, well, maybe that's broken, we
should fix that, right. And it's like.
See, that's what makes it more broken too, is always having to
choose a side, you know what I mean?
That it's always that, that division that they're pushing,
Well, you have to be on one sideor the other, you know what I

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mean? It's always, there's always
something that they're pointing out that's so blatantly
different, you know, whether whatever the the difference is,
whatever the division is, you know, I think.
There's also this, right? There's also this like, I think
people forget on either side that some people are in
political parties for strength and numbers based on one, one

(19:58):
issue, right? Like the single issue voters and
stuff, right? And they're only in that party
because they they support that one thing they care about,
right? And it's like, and they don't
even agree with all the other stuff, right?
And you know. Maybe abortion is probably one
of the best topics on that right, people on the left, like
most people, there's some peoplewho who are only on the left

(20:21):
because they support abortion and the the right just does not
right? And that's the only thing, but
they don't care about any of theother stuff that the left has to
deal with. And I, you know, on the right,
it's the same thing, right? There's people on the right who
just do not agree with abortion and that that's the only reason,
even though they don't like agree with all this other
nonsense that's happening, right?

(20:41):
And and then there's like, it's,it literally is a spectrum on
that sense, right? What is it about your show that
you think that you're trying to highlight in, in regards to the
the system being broken? What is it about the system that
is you think is the underlying issue?
Like where did we go wrong? Corruption.

(21:04):
Greed. You.
Can say like right? Yeah, it's power.
It's power, money. And, you know, it's corruption.
It's it's all of these things revolve around money instead of
the healthcare system working for the people.
It revolves around money insteadof the education system, you

(21:24):
know, teaching children, which is what it's supposed to do.
It revolves around money. You know, everything is fueled
off of the almighty dollar, off of the off of greed and and
people lose sight of what we're doing here due to to money.

(21:50):
Do you think, yeah, because there was a, there's a time
where I, I, I specifically, you know, I was like, what is going
on? There's there's a another game
happening here and and there's always.
Another game. There's always an ulterior
motive when it comes to politicsthese days.
Yeah, I think that's the nature of the beast though, just
generally speaking, right. And, and it's like, you know,

(22:13):
the lion has to eat an antelope and, and like, it is what it is
at that point, right? And the action of that happening
is politics to me. And like it's just something
that has to happen in order for energy to be moved in a certain
direction. And unfortunately that kind of
looks like money sometimes. And I'm not, I'm not thinking
for politics or like any of that.
I think the whole like the fact that we have to do all this and

(22:36):
like it's kind of lame, but it it's part of the system that
we're in. I don't think it's going to
change it anytime soon. I think that we can influence it
to some degree or another. And I think that you have a very
good point about the, the political corruption, maybe like
the democratic backsliding and the cronyism and the
corporatocracy and all of this stuff, right?

(22:56):
Like, I can see the money grabbing.
I see that part and I see in allinstitutional aspects, right?
And the pillars of, of institutional pillars that hold
up the, you know, the fabric, anunderlying fabric of this
nation. Like, it's very clear that
there's a part where it's being supported sufficiently by, you
know, monetary resources. And then there's a, a financial

(23:19):
gain that is essentially squeezing capital based on
greed. I, I, I see it.
And then there's like, well, is,it's easy to say, well, money is
the root of all evil. And it's like, but money is also
the way that we exchange information and we exchange
ideas and we make things happen,right?
Money is the reason why, you know, 5O13CS, no nonprofits are,

(23:43):
are, are thriving, right? And then there's also the reason
why some, some nonprofits are handing millions of dollars to
their, you know, to their board members and to their executives,
right? And meanwhile, they're, they're
still, you know, keep their handout right.
And so it's like, is the, do youthink the money is the issue or
is it the people who are handling the money and, and

(24:05):
playing the game on top of it? Or is there something else that
I'm missing here? It's definitely the people that
let the money overtake the full reason that they're there in the
1st place, the whole reason for these systems being in place.
So you, you know, you said something about the pillars and
the the structure of the foundation.
The problem is that the full foundation of America of these

(24:29):
United States was built on cracked.
You know, it was built on crack found.
It was a cracked foundation to begin with.
I mean, we built America. We as in white people as in
Europeans, we're all immigrants,right?
Every single one of us. And the fact that we're claiming

(24:52):
America to be ours so-called in quotations, it's just not only
it just historically wrong, but it's entitlement and it's not,
it's not correct and it's not, it's not factual.
So, so the whole argument about,well, you know, because we all,

(25:15):
we've always controlled everything basically, you know
what I mean? Like, not completely, totally
without, you know, anybody else being involved, but I but I, you
know, it all comes back to the white man taking control and
having this entitlement because they stole people from this land
and had them do the work for them.

(25:35):
So they were, they were built in.
They had a skewed view of money and labor and how the real world
works. You know, the forefathers
weren't like, yes, they were screwed up.
Yeah, they had their issues. Yeah.
Nobody gets it right, you know, to begin with, everybody, it's
going to be screwed up. But they were smart enough to

(25:58):
build in, you know, to make the the Constitution built in with
these amendments, you know, it built into for change as we
grow, as we evolve, as we learn things.
So, yeah, they were screwed up. Yeah, they had it wrong.
But they were smart enough to build in these changes that
could be made as, like I said, as we go.

(26:19):
But The thing is, we're moving backwards right now.
And instead of it, instead of usevolving, instead of us learning
from our mistakes, instead of using history to grow and and
learn and evolve, we're devolving.
We're, we're going back like this is not, I don't know the
words for it right now, but thisis not right is all I know.

(26:42):
It's we're, we're completely going the opposite way that that
we're supposed to be going. You know what?
I I have this theory and I don'treally, I don't know if I
believe it, but I think about itsometimes and I'm like, you
know, it could, it could happen.What if like, OK, so you know,
there's different eras, there's different times in history, you

(27:05):
know, the Ice Age, the Mesopotamia, whatever that word
is, I can't say that word. There's a lot of words I can't
say. I don't know why I try.
There are all these different times in history, all these
different eras, and you go through phases.
OK, the dinosaurs died off this.Do you know the Ice Age didn't
last. This didn't last the the caveman

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that's called. So what if like, like people are
another experiment, like, OK, well, they're screwing it up
too. You know, what if God's just up
there or whoever it is with the higher power, the the Almighty,
he, him, her, whatever is up there, like, OK, well, that

(27:47):
didn't last. So let's try this.
Well, let's do you know, let's try out this way of doing
things. Nope, that ended too.
Let's, you know, let's put thesehumans in here and see what they
can do. Oh, Nope, screw everything up.
Let's try again. So we're just going to end at
some point when it when we blow each other up or blow the whole
world up and they're going to start all over again with
something else. Really believe that, But it's a

(28:09):
thought. I mean, I don't know.
I guess everything, anything's possible, right?
I have no idea. I mean, I don't.
Know that's crazy. I know people are going to be
like, Oh my God, this chick's crazy.
No, I mean there's I don't have any evidence or evidence for
God. I don't right.
I I get that like it feels like.It almost feels like we're being

(28:35):
tested, like with like, yeah, like how?
Yeah, and unfortunately. We.
You know what I mean? I think what yeah, I think what
people are exhibiting is that there is a test in front of us.
And unfortunately we're failing ourselves in a, a society full
of of fucking cowards, right? And, and the only ones with
backbones are the ones that are,are leading the the least

(28:59):
favorable position forward, right.
And, and I try to, I try to takethe, the left and right out of
this because it's like when you right, and when you look at it
from like the perspective of who's leading the charge or
who's making the argument, there's, there's, there's a
level of like being right on that sentence, right?

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And it's like from their position they are correct and
the other side is wrong, right? And you see it like.
Well, we were talking about perspective earlier.
Right, an argument with a friendis a good example of this,
right, Where an argument occurs because there's a
misunderstanding of what you know the truth is, right?
And so they're. Seeing it from different angles,

(29:40):
different sides, or whatever. Right.
So everyone is kind of like sticking to their guns, so to
speak, and like they're not wrong.
And it's like, that's true, right?
But so that's why there's alwaysthe, you know, there's their
side, your side and the truth. And it's like, yeah, everything
is in service to the negotiationto find common ground or that
which is the truth, right. And then so like to take it back

(30:01):
quickly to the, the foundationalfractures of, you know, the
social pillars or whatever in, in history.
It's like, I, I get the argumentof like, oh, white people bad.
I, there's, I, I get it. But I also think that there's a
level of like propagandization on that.

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And I think there's a level of marketing that has taken place.
And I think that there's a levelof fuckery, just generally
speaking, that has happened in that sense.
I, I, I don't agree with the idea that white people were
stealing people from Africa. I do agree with the idea that
that was happening to some degree.
And then I was also. I also agree with the idea that

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people who are native from Africa were selling people who
were native from Africa. And I also agree with the idea
that the Portuguese were involved in slave trade.
I also agree that the Americas were kind of late to the game on
that, right? Like there's all of this stuff
that also happened in proximity to those things.
And those are really large arguments that need to be

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unpacked to get a, a total picture of what was happening to
make a, a, a sound opinion basedon what is unfolding.
And honestly, I don't have the full picture.
So I'm not going to make a massive argument, right?
Because if the, if the question is was there slavery in America
during that time and in the colonial times and was it

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morally wrong? My answer is yes.
But that's a different question argument than, you know, where
they came from, right? And and those two things can be
answered in service to, you know, the, the, the underlying
question. And they don't have to be, you
know, a political sway one way or the other.

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I don't have to be a leftist to say that slavery is wrong.
And I don't have to be, you know, a conservative to say that
some people have fucking stupid ideas.
And like, they, they don't have to be like, mutually exclusive
of each other. And I think that pick, picking a
side really comes from the idea of not knowing and not not

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knowing that maybe there's more to the underlying question in
the direction. And maybe we're not all on the
same page. And I think that's only part of
the bigger picture. Just generally speaking.
And and even if you take that entire set of ideas and
arguments and constructs and youyou pick it up and you put it to
the side and you say, hey, this is what's happening in this

(32:28):
nation state. Is there problems?
Yes, right, Because I only need to look to Nigeria to understand
that their problems that they'rehaving with that they've
historically had with their, thepolitical parties based on oil
and the way that the the cronyism and and corruption kind
of unfolds there. And how every political party

(32:49):
who comes into into play there just basically funnels all the
funds to the top and then fucks everybody else.
That's the same shit that's happening here, right?
And we only need to look into 2011 during the Occupy Wall
Street thing that everyone seemsto fucking forget had that
people were fed up, right? And then the the Tea Party
rolled over and and basically everyone was like cool again.

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Like it was really weird. It was really weird how everyone
became really cool again with all of that.
And I think that the only reasonwe didn't see another one of
those unfold, and it didn't evenlast.
It was in 2020 when everyone gotstimulus checks, right?
And so it was, everyone was partof the grift at that point,
right? So everyone was bought out and
everyone, if you were a business, you were getting

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money. If you were, if you didn't, if
you met a certain threshold, youwere getting money.
If you were at the top, you weregetting money.
Everyone was getting paid. So no one cared, right?
And. That's where the nuances are.
See, like like you said, it doesn't it always went back to
normal like it always it always found its way back to kind of a

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even keel in the normal days. Like I said a year ago, you
know, before this I. Guess my question is like, what
what is the, what is the actual issue?
Because it like you're not unique in in the sense that like
you're highlighting a very specific like, oh shit,
everything's on fire. And and I agree that there's
something wrong. Something, something

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fundamentally is fucked up here and I'm not blaming one side or
the other for it. I think that generally speaking,
I don't think anyone has put their their thumb on the pulse
or the finger on their pulse, soto speak, right?
Like I don't, I don't think anyone actually knows what's
happening. And and so.
Unless you're at the top. Right, and then you're just
doing whatever you want, right, because there's this thing where

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like people think there's a massive, and I've talked about
this before. There's a conspiracy and there's
like dudes in a, in a, in a roomin the back, scheming and all
smoking cigars and partying and doing lines of coke and, and
they're like, you know, they're like, you know, you know, fuck
Tyler, we're you know, we're going to do that, right?
And no one's fucking doing that.Like no one's doing that.
These guys are literally like, like you and me, right?

(34:59):
Like they, they're just creatingan agenda on the whim with help
of people who know what they're talking about and they're just
doing the best they can. And unfortunately, that is in
service to themselves, which is anything anybody else would do,
right? And then you have to kind of be
considered about like this entire nation that you're,
you're leading, right? But like even in the workplace,

(35:19):
like no one and no one thinks that their boss is doing the
best job. And it's like it's the same
thing with. Everybody, like I said.
Right. And so despite the fact that
data, data bears a very different story, right?
Like yes, historically, since what like the 80s, like
institutional trust has has fallen along with Media Trust in

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the public eye. And so 70s, right?
So people's, people's trust in institutions and people's trust
in media has drastically declined.
But yet we're in like the safestperiod of all time and people
have resorted to citizen journalism, which is, you know,
since the that's where. We're getting all the fake news
like that's how that's, well, the, the, the more, the, the

(36:01):
more independent ones are, are actually more reliable now.
But the big ones are the ones that are on either, you know, on
one side or the other because ofdollars.
Like I said, everything revolvesaround money.
But OK, So to answer your question, yeah, no, I wanted to
go back. Let's do it.
Now I forgot it. OK, It was so many things that

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you said that I. Wanted to touch I know it's
because we're we're. And I should totally write this
down as you're going. And I'm like, oh, I want to
touch on that. I want to touch on that, but can
you bring up something else? And I'm like, oh, I want to
touch on that. Oh, gosh.
OK, So Oh my gosh, what was the question?
What is the actually? There was so many things, Tyler,
darn it. OK, well, the what the problem

(36:44):
was, OK, I think besides the greed, besides the money,
besides the fact that we're built on, oh, that's what I
wanted to go back to too. OK, besides the fact that we're
built on tax foundation is that there's a two party system.
So every time somebody it's in office, right, whether his, you
know, good intentions are bad, whatever his intentions are his
or her and there's never been her.
So let's go with his intentions.Are they do whatever they're

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going to do, right for that fouror eight years, right?
And then the next person comes in and it's like they erase all
that or, or tear some of it downor change it or flip it or do
this, you know, then they do their thing and then it happens
over and over. So we're never progressing.
We're just kind of like recycling this pattern of tear
it down, build it up, tear it down, build it up, tear it down,

(37:30):
do something else back and forthback.
You know, that's a problem. That's a problem.
To who? To America, to the to citizens,
to, to the economy, to the everysystem that we have in place
that is broken because somebody does something to help
healthcare or to not help healthcare, however you want to
look at it, whatever your perspective is.

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But then somebody comes in and changes it and does something
else and then it's, you know, then we're back at square 0,
square 1, whatever, you know, itjust goes back and forth with
everything. You know, somebody gets in the
office and does something and then and then the next person
changes it all and does something else and then we go
back and forth. You know what I mean?
Like it's. Because the progress to me, it
makes perfect sense. And I actually prefer it to, to

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be the way that it is as far as like the, the, the, the level of
progress that is made in the time period.
Because anytime I've ever made areactionary choice, it's usually
a bad deal, right? But when I've, when I've taken
the time to map things out and put it into a bigger picture in,

(38:33):
in service of the bigger goal, it works out better, right?
But it's the, it's the principleof almost like delayed
gratification, right? And so it's the, these things
are not for now, They're for, you know, 1020, thirty years
from now, 50 years from now, 100years from now, they're not for
us, right? They're not, they're, they're in
service to the future of us and to the future of humanity,

(38:55):
right? And so I think that the
individual has gotten placed on the pedestal and it really would
it is is in service to all right.
And so if if it gets built up and then gets and then gets
broken down, nothing happens, then nothing happened.

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And if that happens over 10 years, nothing has changed.
And it's like. It's not OK, it's not good how
it was, so it needs to change. Right.
But if you're if you don't want it to change, then it is good if
you want it to change. Oh well, it needs to change.
Then it needs to change, right? And So what I'm saying is, if
it's worth changing and if it's worth doing, it will get done.

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And if it's not, the conversation isn't done right.
But it's worth it to some peoplebecause either they've never
been in the situation that people are in that needed to
change, or they're not seeing itbecause they're at the top and
they're doing, you know, there'syou know that they politicians
aren't even about the people. It's about what you're not going

(39:58):
to get ahead unless you're correct or not.
You got to, you got to, you got to change some of your morals,
your values, your, your policiesto get anywhere to tell.
The politicians are in service to the, the, the party.
That's it. And they're only, they're
literally in the textbooks. Their only goal is, and their
only job is to, is to get elected.
That's it. Yeah, yeah.

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Like, right. And so back to the lion thing,
right? Like, and this is kind of like
a, an analogy that seems to workthat I just pulled out of my ass
here. But like, it's like no one, no
one wants to see the, the, the antelope getting right.
But if you're the other antelope, it's like, well,
better, better that antelope than me.
Than him, than me, yeah. Right.
And so there's still this sense of balance that needs to happen,
right? And that doesn't mean that the

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lion's not without danger, right, in that like there's
other options on the table. It's like, so like when you look
at and you say, OK, well then the last 10 years since 2011 or
in 15 years or whatever it is, it's like no one since 2011,
there hasn't been that much progress and say, OK, like
someone can make that argument, right?

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But if you go back to like the 80s or, you know, the 70s or the
50s, there has been a tremendousamount of process progress,
right, even just from this for anybody who came on the other
side of the civil rights movement, right?
So like if, if you were, if you were, if you were black or a

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woman, right, or a minority of another color, if you're brown,
if you were, you know, you know,from any other country, like
there's in before the 60s and the 70s, you were probably
having a really, really hard time, right?
And then it was the rise of the the civil rights movement and in
the triumphal of the people who were courageously standing up

(41:42):
to, you know, plant that flag. Yeah, it doesn't look like a lot
of progress because it got done,right.
But like, the, the door it opened is the reason why a lot
of voices are not being captured, right?
It's the reason why people are like complaining about like, why
not me, right? Like, why don't I get a voice in
this? Why don't.
It's like, well, it's crazy because you kind of have a voice

(42:05):
while you're doing this thing that is like in service to
really like ego is what most people are going after.
But like, yeah, like women in inminorities didn't have a real
voice or Elijah stand on before the 60s and the 70s, right.
So we can't say that. Now, do you know that, do you
know that the 19 since the 1970s, and this is just one

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example, the, the race, the ratio for housing, like loans
for for minorities, for black folks has not changed since the
1970s. Like they're still being
disproportionately, you know, racially held down.
They're still being systemically, you know,

(42:51):
discriminated against. And it hasn't changed since the
1970s as far as that getting anybetter.
I think it's so like I mean to. Say that the civil rights
movement happened. You can say that on paper, you
know, slavery was abolished or that, you know, whatever the,
the situation is, but it didn't change a lot of things under the

(43:16):
under the blanket, under the behind the scenes, in, in a lot
of people's minds. I mean that.
I mean that if people can't likeif I wake up that make the.
Calls I mean that that give the housing loans in their in their
they're still discriminating against black people.
Just because the the paper says that you're not supposed to
doesn't mean that it's not happening.

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You know what I'm saying? It's not.
Happening, but I'm not I'm also saying that like my, my like
family members that are in my family that are, you know, from
a different skin color, they don't they don't go out to the
fields and and like pick crops for.
Free. Right.
Like no and and and so. Volunteer for it now because
we're not getting paid, we're not getting fair wages, we're

(43:58):
not getting living wages that keep up with the Col.
We're not giving. You know, we're the the land of
the free, but we have the most people locked up in prison.
I feel like that's a a differentargument because like if we're
if we're going to stick to. That all ties together.
I could go on and on about this.I didn't know we were going to
talk about politics, but this isawesome.

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I love having somebody to talk to about this because I mean.
It's fine. Yeah.
I usually don't have a conversation about politics,
but. No, this is awesome.
Your point of view is different.Like I like, I don't know what
side you're on. Not that I know.
I know. That's exactly what we're
talking. About I'm on my side and I'm in
service to to whatever's the best, right?
Like and and that is going to be.

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Different. Right, right, right, right.
So if if you went about your life doing the best that you
could to serve your family and yourself.
How do you do that when somebodyis is taking shit away?
Like literally tearing shit down?
That's. What I'm saying it's unfair that
the antelope got eaten by the lion, but a better that one than
me. And it's.

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I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that people
should get shafted in in serviceto that which is, you know,
seemingly best. I'm saying that I.
Mean something Just. Happened because they're part of
the order of the structure underwhich it unfolds in the system,
in the game. And unfortunately, if you want
to change that game, you have tobe part of that game, right?
So, people, life is gonna happen.

(45:22):
That's like the normal America. What about right now?
And. Right now is like it is what it
is. No, no.
Yeah, change, change right now. No, I no, I don't mean change
right now, but I mean, I mean this is not normal.
Like this is not OK what he's. Doing No, I, I mean, I, I agree

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that we're in a, in a term of like turmoil, generally
speaking, right, But like back to the ideas of like people
being discriminated against, right?
It's like we were, we started atOK, well, what had happened up
until now, people are not being heard.
People are not whatever. There's no change.
There's no like it gets built up, it gets teared down, it gets
built up, it gets turned down. But like every now and then we

(46:03):
kind of get a dub here, right? Like in the civil rights
movement, the women's rights movement, we're pretty big dubs,
right? The fall of the burn Linton
Wall, right? Like in Soviet communism, that
was, it was pretty big dub, right?
Like, and, and then it was like we had a period of like OK
times, right? And during that period of OK
times, everyone just forgot about the Rwandan genocide,
right? Right.
And then during the 90s, and we just kind of like turned a blind

(46:24):
eye because, hey, things are kind of good over here.
We should probably just not worry about that, right?
And it's like, it's like injustice exists as a thing in
the world, as an operating thingin the world.
And you can't, you can't get ridof injustice because when you
get rid of injustice, what you're going to do is find a new
version of that, right? And in the Western world you

(46:44):
find it as you know, I mean, like MTV was a fucking great
example of this, right? Where like you had the like the
My Sweet 16 show and then suddenly every fucking 16 year
old get a car. Right.
Wasn't right, but like every every teen who wasn't getting a
Sweet 16 in a car on their on their 16th birthday was

(47:05):
suddenly, you know, some kind oflike there was some kind of
assault on their person, right and.
It's like. Right.
That's what I'm getting at, right.
A lot of the problems that I feel that we are exhibiting are
just purely based on entitlementand like then there is right
because there's no what is the actual issue right now?

(47:26):
Right, that's what I was going to get to earlier too.
I'm sorry to keep cutting you off.
It just comes to my mind and I gotta say it because I'm.
Just rambling. You have to.
You have to cut me off otherwise.
OK, so Tyler, I'm just kidding. Also, really quick, can we just
acknowledge that that there are more white people in poverty
than there are minorities just just so we can get that out of

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the way on the on the housing thing, more people who are white
are exhibiting poverty and qualify for assistance than
minorities. That's.
Not a lie. Why are they complaining about
other people on assistance when the white people are the ones on
assistance? So anyways, that's what I was
going to get to too, is that I'mnot saying, OK, white people

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bad, but a lot of them are. But The thing is the the reason
I said what I said and the reason I feel what I feel about
how they've it's entitlement. It's like the ones that are
speaking out, the ones that are so, you know, outspoken about
this is our land. You go, you go back to your
country, you get out of here. You know you.

(48:28):
Yeah, that shit's stupid. For real.
Yeah, it it. I agree with you.
You know what I'm saying it's and I'm not saying white people
ban, but I'm just saying you shouldn't have this entitlement
around you. You shouldn't have this, this
whole aura of this is our country.
You get out now because it's notanyway, it's like the Indians
country, the, you know, the natives country.

(48:50):
So what are you even talking about?
What are you even talking about right now?
So, so shut up all that with entitlement crap, because I'm
over it. You're you should be over it.
And it's that's what pisses me off.
Well, to your point, the funniest part about that, the
the most ironic part of that is,is the administration.
Like like the heads of this administration are, are
literally saying, you know, fucking everyone needs to get

(49:12):
out of this country if they're immigrants.
And it's like, OK, but like yourfucking wives and children are
literally immigrants. Like what?
What is this? This is the stupidest thing.
It's it's the funniest thing in the world.
I did a short the other day. I just have to bring this up
because it's totally goes along with what you're saying.
OK, so you know, we heard the the whole thing about the felon
and the married to the immigrantare saying that the felons and
the immigrants are the problem in the country, right?

(49:33):
So what about the ones that thatsame one is saying this is all
about law and order when he's continually breaking laws and
disrupting the order. I was like, yeah, that was a
good one, but. Seriously.
Like the hypocrisy is crazy. It's.
Ridiculous. 100% I agree with you.
The hypocrisy is insane and I really think it's.

(49:54):
Just it's all. It's all TV.
It's all it is. Well, it's.
Fabricated drama. It's all it's all him rallying
his troops, keeping his troops rallied because he knows the
ones that are going to believe what he says regardless of
whatever he says. And that's why he's trying to
silence the ones that are smart enough to know better.
And yes, that's a dig because it's true, but it's not.

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I'm not saying it to be mean. I'm saying it because it's the
truth is that they're just goingto listen to what he says and
believe what he says, regardlessof how much sense it makes.
And he knows that the ones he cannot control, he needs to
silence, which is why he's doingthat very thing.
Yeah, there's a lot of people who are out there just fucking
Dick riding like on the on on both sides, honestly, like and

(50:42):
if any anybody that whatever leader they have on their side
is like, well here's the truth now they're like, yes, this is
the truth. And it's just like instantly
like bot mode. I'm not saying they're they're,
they're stupid people, but the, the, the willingness to just
soldier on the narrative is, is bizarre to me.
And it's a, it's like a legit phenomenon.

(51:03):
It's like it's almost like everyone is just like fucking
super brainwashed on both sides to just like.
On. Both sides?
Why on both sides? It is on both sides.
How? What do you mean?
How can you? How how how was the left
brainwashed or how is the ones OK not the left because it I

(51:24):
don't necessarily have to be on the left to know the the common
sense to see the the truth in all this.
So how are the people that are up his ass?
The cancer, the cancer culture stuff was was a little much.
That was that was a direct result of the fringe left kind
of leading the charge as the thehead of the spear.

(51:48):
And and the left was that was the that was the tipping point
for the left losing power, honestly, because they were
willing to go to any lengths to to keep the political power
right and to keep those votes coming in, even if it was just
some asinine ideas. And they basically turned
everything into a fucking clown show, which is what the right

(52:10):
capitalized on, right? Because what what is?
Capitalizing on. What what what the scaring
everybody with the the politicalimbalance right now is that it's
actually political balance happening.
And what historically the right is been a failure at is is party
cohesion. They've always been in shambles
as a party and they can never they always have infighting.

(52:33):
And historically the left has been pretty good.
The Democrats been pretty good about facilitating and
supporting party cohesion. So they move as a unit, right,
and then move as a, as a, as a whole party where the the right
didn't do that. And so that's where the left, a
lot of the left's power came from.

(52:54):
Was that even in their disagreements within the party?
And they figured it out and madeit.
Made whatever their agenda as a party happen.
And what? As a unit.
Yeah, and unfortunately, whetherpeople like it or not, that's
what's happening on the right and it, it just happens to be
not a fucking awesome agenda, right?
And to put it nicely, yeah, it'sjust 'cause I'm not trying to

(53:18):
get like, I'm not trying to get nasty about like the
perspectives here because I don't think it matters that
much. Because if it was, if it was
like, oh, well, this, these, this party over here wants soft
food and this party over here wants hard food, everyone would
be like, those guys are fucking assholes.
And on the other side to be like, those guys are fucking
assholes. And so like, it's the, the
things we're fighting about. Like, yes, they matter.

(53:41):
Like when you break them down, Ithink they'd matter.
Everything matters in that sense.
I just think that when you're having the broader argument or
conversation, it doesn't matter what they're arguing about,
right? Mom and dad are fighting.
It doesn't matter what they're fighting about.
All I know is that they're fighting and it's like, why are
they? And then like when you break
down the argument, you can startto understand their perspectives

(54:02):
and it right. And so it's, I'm trying to get
rid of the speaking about the people and, and getting lost in
the, the trees for the forest, right?
That's really where I'm coming from.
That way I can stay level headed.

(54:22):
I totally see what you're sayingand I know what you're saying is
truth, but like I said, it applied to a year ago.
Do you, I mean, I don't do you? I don't know if you see, like,
do you think that do you agree that that Trump is completely
tearing down constitutional rights and turning this into

(54:42):
1930s Germany and like, you know, moving like demolishing
democracy And do you agree with.Do I agree with him?
Do you see it? Do do you see that that's what
he's doing or do you not think that?
That's do I see what that's whathe's doing?
I think that he's a showman and it's like, what can you give me

(55:03):
examples of of? What I just said that he's
doing. Yeah, like I, I want to see exam
like I didn't vote for Trump, dude.
Like we're just going to get that out of the way here.
I I think, I think he's a fucking clown and he's just a
show man. And I honestly like, and also

(55:24):
just to be fair, I think Kamala Harris was a fucking clown too.
And I don't think that that was a good, a good approach either.
And I think that both parties drastically fucked everything
up. And then we need a reset button.
I but there's a fairway to do that.
And I think that it's not going to happen until somebody's sound
comes in. And right now, like I'm, I'm not
a leftist, I'm not a right, likeI don't sit on any side right.

(55:46):
But like the only one that I've seen so far who's making sense
and like my friends hate me for this.
It's like it's Gavin Newsom, dude, Gavin Newsom.
And, and what's happening. And what's really funny about
that is that all he's doing is, is is he took a a page out of
Trump's book and he's just playing that card right?
So what's going to end up happening?
Totally turning it around on to what?

(56:07):
Trump. Yeah.
And what people aren't going to understand.
A taste of his own medicine. Unfortunately, because the left
has reacted to Trump and the right has reacted to Trump,
what's that? That Trumpism is going to be a
political way of populist political engagement, right?
And so that's why you see mimicson on the left now, right?

(56:30):
That's why that's why Newsom is using that as a playbook.
It's the new playbook, right? So unfortunately.
You have to fight fire with fire.
Well, unfortunately, now that's what we're going to get, right.
So the, the left's going to leanin on it because it's, it
engages people and it gets people active in, in politics
and motivated, right. So you have to play by that
rule. So now that's a new game.

(56:52):
I don't think that's why Newsom's doing it.
Newsom's doing it to to stop this madness.
Newsom is standing up for democracy, for what's right, for
the our constitutional rights. Like he's not doing it.
He's not doing it for for the show of it.
He's not doing it. No, I'm not saying it for the
show. I'm saying it that unfortunately
the show has become the political is the political
engagement tool. Yeah, it's the new tool to get

(57:14):
politically engaged. So it's.
Not right. Right.
So one man was doing it for you know, for lols and and you know
likes and and the other guy is doing it because it works.
Yeah, right. Well, that's yeah.
And I had a short about that too.
So do I agree to your question, right?
Do I agree with what he's doing?Do I understand?

(57:36):
No, I don't agree fully with what he's doing.
But I also can't sit here and say that he's not doing anything
good, right? And that's.
You agree that he is tearing down democracy, that he is, you
know, stripping rights from people, that he is shutting down
systems, that. Well, my question would.
Be run America, that run with the nation.

(57:57):
Do you, do you mean do I think that he's actually doing it or
do I feel like he's doing it or?Do you see that he is doing it?
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