June 25, 2025 • 54 mins
What happens when life's disappointments lead to unexpected blessings? Lupita Navarrete never imagined she'd make history as Ector County's first Hispanic District Clerk, but her journey through divorce, single motherhood, and professional setbacks prepared her for exactly this role.
The conversation begins with Lupita sharing how her nine-year-old son motivates everything she does, though "he has no idea the impact he's made in my life." As a recovering people-pleaser, she discusses her ongoing struggle with boundaries and how running serves as her primary form of self-care. When faced with rejection, Lupita has learned to look for the lesson rather than dwell on disappointment – a mindset that proved crucial throughout her life.
Divorce became the defining turning point in Lupita's story. Married at 19 to her high school sweetheart, she found herself divorced at 25 and navigating life as a single mother. The experience brought shame in her traditional Hispanic community but ultimately shaped her into who she is today. "I wouldn't be who I am without it," she reflects with surprising gratitude. Through therapy and personal growth, she transformed self-destructive coping mechanisms into resilience.
Her professional journey contains equally powerful lessons. After years working in the legal field, previous career disappointments suddenly made sense when the District Clerk position opened. Initial self-doubt nearly stopped her – "I'm Hispanic, I'm little, I'm a single mom" – until she recognized the opportunity as an answer to prayers she didn't even know she had. Now making history in her county, she sees how God's plan exceeded anything she could have envisioned for herself.
Whether you're facing divorce, career uncertainty, or any significant life transition, Lupita's story reminds us that closed doors often lead to better opportunities. Sometimes the puzzle pieces of our lives only make sense in retrospect, revealing a picture more beautiful than we could have imagined.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of
Standing your Truth Podcast.
I am your host, yoni.
This is definitely a secondtake.
The first one I won't get themic was on, but anyway, how are
you guys doing?
Hopefully you are not too warmwhere you are out here.
It hasn't been too bad.
Um, we've had some rain, whichis hell, but anyway, we've had
(00:55):
some rain and we have some wind.
That's made it to where it's umhasn't been too bad out here,
but um, I'm pretty excited toactually get to know my guests
on a different level.
So I'm gonna let her introduceherself hi everyone.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So my name is lupita navarrete or guadalupe navarrete
.
Um I am, do I?
What do I say?
Like my job or my age.
I turned 30 two weeks ago.
I think you did.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
She's looking fabulous on the picture.
When I reached out I was likegirl, I need you on my podcast,
because you're glowing.
I need to know why.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I work for Rector County.
I am the district clerk as ofMarch.
I was appointed, so it's newfor me, but I've been in the
legal field for a good while.
Um, this position has just beena blessing, but it's we come.
It came with a lot of new.
Yeah, and yeah, that's me.
I'm a mom.
I forgot about my son.
(01:55):
I'm like I was like I'm a mom.
Yeah, he went with his, with mysister for a week to dallas, so
I'm I forgot about him.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh snap, so you're a single mom?
I mean, you're not a momtechnically, quote unquote.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, I'm not a mom this week, I think you're always
a mom.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
but technically quote unquote Taking a break.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, oh, that's fun.
So, yeah, he's.
So I have a son, he's nine,turned nine in February, and
that's just me and Junior, andyeah, that's me All right.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
So first question what motivates you?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
My son?
That's an easy question for me.
That's really what motivates me.
He pushes me more than he knows.
I always say he's.
I always say, like he has noidea that, like he has no idea
what I've done.
You know, but I don't, I don'twant, I don't need him to.
What I've done, you know, but Idon't, I don't want, I don't
need him to, but he has no ideathe impact he's made in my life,
like the way he pushes me.
(02:48):
And he's only been in thisworld for nine years and he's
just getting started.
Yes, little does he know.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, how do you protect your mental health?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
How do I protect my mental health?
I think for me, that would besetting the appropriate
boundaries with uh do you dealwith it, uh, I, it's hard, you
know, because you especially ifyou're like a really big people,
pleaser, um, it's hard to setboundaries because you don't
want to break, like you don'twant to, the relationships you
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have and that you build like youdon't want to, I guess put a
block on that.
Sometimes it's not even like aboundary of like, just don't
speak to me ever again, but it'sjust, uh, just space, you know,
and you don't want to do thatsometimes, but it's, it's just
came with time.
I think trial and error, likeanything else, you know you
don't set a boundary somewhereand you learn what that outcome
(03:43):
is and then you try to implementit next time, or you don't, and
you keep making that mistakeuntil you don't.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I think that would be the I literally the last
episode talked about the residueof pleasing, and I do well
sometimes with settingboundaries.
I don't just like you said,sometimes it's the me worrying
about what someone I was.
I also don't want to hurtanyone's feelings, so the
thought crosses my mind verybriefly, but there is residue to
(04:10):
it.
Glad that you were able tosettle down, drew.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It's a challenge.
I'm not great at it.
It's something I'm working on,okay.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Nothing wrong with that.
What do you do for yourself-care routine?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
The gym.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I was going to say now, if you don't mention the
gym, I know you go and she's abeast, the gym.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And I think running too Like it's.
I've always liked to run andrecently it's something that
I've done a little bit more andI really enjoy it Like it's,
that is.
I would say that it's themainly the gym all around, but
running just kind of puts me ina place of ease do you like.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Are you a run with headphones person or you just
from?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
run with headphones, um, but sometimes I'm not even
listening, like I listen, themusic's going, but my thoughts
are kind of just like I'm ableto think while I'm running
because I can't.
I feel like I try to do that aslike with my, my son, like as a
mom or working um, but I, Idon't know it, just to me it's
(05:17):
different when I'm running sowhat's your go-to song?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
as soon as you so you put the headphones on, you're
getting ready to run.
What is your song?
You're for sure putting onwhat's that song?
Maybe I should say the artist,if you can't think of the song
girl.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I can't even think about the artist, but it's like
a uh, what's the song?
It's now.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I'm like I'm gonna have to check your phone after
this.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to showyou.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
It's like a techno song, really.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, it's, it's good so it's like it like gets me it
gets the, it gets me going, youknow that's not funny, but
that's funny, like your whole.
I have to show you this songbecause it really bumps me up.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
And then now my like sometimes I'll just listen to
that song in my car with my sonand, um, he loves the song too
now.
So when he comes on, there's apart where he's like one, two,
three, four, or one two, three,I don't know.
But Junior already knows thatpart, I don't know it's.
It's a good song.
I have to show it to you.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, don't get me going okay, um, what is your
mindset when you are told no orthe door shuts?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
uh, no, is hard for me.
That's something verychallenging for me.
I've struggled a lot with thatand I guess that could come in
different ways with what was thesecond one, the um, when the
door closes, yeah, when the doorshuts.
When the door shuts, I'velearned that there has to be.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
There's a lesson in everything, like whether the
outcome is good or bad, and ifthat door shuts, there's a
lesson behind it, and I alwaystry to keep that in mind that
there's a lesson in every doorthat shuts and even, I guess,
when, with a no to, with a no toum, there is a lesson with that
, I think like I said this everyepisode when I have someone on,
(07:08):
but to me that um question kindof gives a insight into
whoever's answering it, likethey're just them as a person.
Some people say what you know,they tell me no, I'm still gonna
go through it.
So it's like, well, yeah yeah,yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I had a conversation once with aaron, something that
happened at work.
Um, maybe a year and a half ago, when I worked for the courts,
there was an.
There was a situation where theoutcome didn't go the way that
I wanted to, and essentially itwas a no and um, I took that
really hard, like my feelingswere super hurt.
I felt very humiliated by it Atthe time.
(07:48):
I didn't understand it.
Coming into this position, Iunderstood why that was a no To
me.
It was like God knew I wasn'tready for that.
Yes in that moment because Iwasn't mentally, emotionally, I
wasn't ready to accept that yesin that moment, because I wasn't
mentally like.
Emotionally, I wasn't ready toaccept that yes, even though I
(08:09):
thought I was you know.
So again it takes me back to it.
There's a lesson behind it.
Sometimes you don't understandit, but it's just not.
It's not on our timing, asfrustrating as that is it's just
not the timing for you, andthere's a.
You have to just trust that soit's hard?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
no, it doesn't, but I have a question.
So was that, if that yes wouldhave happened?
Was that yes, bigger than this,yes that you're currently
sitting in?
No, it wasn't it kind of givesthe you know on facebook or
instagram, they have a thingwhere it's like your plan and
it's god's plan, yes, and god'splan always looks way better
than what she thought.
Yes, so it's kind of.
(08:46):
It's exactly what that is.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yes, Wow yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So and that's why we talked about it, because I
something was coming up withthis new position and I was
nervous because of thatexperience and the I guess
people involved.
I was going to have to beinvolved with them in this
position and it the myinterpretation of that and
looking at it now was God wassaying no, but he was preparing
(09:14):
me for that for this moment toknow how to approach that
situation.
You know, so yeah it's the.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I think oftentimes when I pray, I'm always like, um
, thanking god, like for himbeing in control, because the
way we think that we know what'sbest for us, or we think how we
like our life should be, andthen, when you really just you
know, throw your hands up andgive it to him and let him be
the author and it starts going.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yes, girl, and it's hard, like it's so hard to not
want to take or to want to taketo let him take control.
That's that is a challenge for,I think, for everyone, you know
, and um, to understand thatit's not your timing, like that
is a hard pill to swallow.
It really is, but when, the,when that comes, the, the, I
(10:05):
can't even explain like how, howliberating that is and how like
amazing that feels.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It's like one of the pieces my grandpa first got to
odessa, I forgot which job thatI had live but anyway um one of
them.
He was like just when you go inthere, just start putting your
pieces and then eventually yourpuzzle piece will come together
I think sometimes you know, themore we navigate life, I love
that and begin to trust god.
It's like your pieces start tocome together and you're like,
oh okay, now I kind of see whyyou might have, you know, that
(10:34):
door to shut, and because herewe are now and I'm able to, you
know, touch and reach morepeople now than I ever would
have been before.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So it's wow, that's a good analogy.
Like I put that into my job now.
Um, that's something I will.
I'll for sure think about.
That's a good analogy.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I love that you can judge me okay oh, yes, I will
that is something you told meI'm gonna, I'm gonna say, just
buy me those puzzles yeah, he'llbe like still putting them
together.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You don't know me, but like for real.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Okay, so what is one moment in your life that has
shaped you or made a huge impacton your life, or in your life?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I think there's a lot of them.
One of them would be my divorce.
I was always really ashamed ofthat.
I don't think I know you were.
Yeah, I was.
I married young.
How young I was 19.
Oh, you're pretty young, I gotmarried at 22.
Yeah, I married at 22.
Yeah, I'm married at 22.
Yeah, so divorced, I wasdivorced at 25, so, but he was
(11:37):
like my high school sweetheart,so we were together when I was
15.
So, um, yeah, so we weretogether for a really long time.
Um, I would say that becauseyou know I mean you've been
through it so you understand theemotion behind it and I think
anyone that has been through adivorce under you can't explain
it.
But you understand the emotion,you know.
(11:58):
For me it was like I wanted outof the marriage and it was
still very hard yeah so I thinkthere's emotion either way and
you can't discredit.
I think that's for a long time Ikind of discredited my emotions
because I lived.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
You know I chose to do that, but I stopped doing
that, so that would be one thatwould probably be the main one
Getting a divorce and becoming asingle parent.
That came with a lot of lessonsthat I wouldn't have learned.
I don't advocate for divorcesand I don't encourage them, but,
um, if that wouldn't have beenthe outcome for me, I wouldn't
(12:36):
have, I wouldn't be who I am onit and that sounds very cliche,
but honestly I wouldn't.
I wouldn't be sorry when I cantell you I wholeheartedly, yeah,
wholeheartedly, and you get itlike there's no words that you
have to say, to say like I knowyou do, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Because they were, I guess, similar in the sense of I
fell first, yeah Same, I gothim served and I moved away.
But I did it because if Ididn't do it, I probably,
honestly, at this point, what amI now?
34?
So you know we wouldn't havemade it.
I probably would either bechecked into somebody's mental
thing or would have probablykilled myself.
It was just that, controllingthat much abuse there, that's
(13:16):
the road I was going down, but,needless to say, I don't have
this.
But at the same time you got toget into the divorce.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, I agree, and for me it was like I remember
sitting there and saying, like,looking back and saying, and
this was five years ago, Iremember, in our room and when I
, when that just came, I youknow something happened and I
said it just clicked.
I guess I remember looking atmy son.
(13:45):
He was asleep in our bed and itwas just me and him and I said
this is not what I want for mylife in five years.
And you know, I knew what isnot what I want for my life in
five years and you know, I knewwhat my mom had gone through
with my dad.
So I said my mom went throughthis so that I wouldn't have to.
And here I am, like, with somuch more opportunities and I
don't want this for my life infive years, and I never pictured
(14:05):
it to be like this.
Um, it was much better thanit's, much better than what I
anticipated, what I expected,but I just didn't want that like
it just clicks.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It just clicked, you know, I just don't want that for
my life you take.
I'm not gonna lie, I know, forme it was so long where I was
like kind of you, kind of um, Iguess it's almost like you had
your glasses on versus off, orfor you ignore it and you're
like, okay, it needs to getbetter and it didn't it don't,
and then I was like you knowwhat I just woke up one day and
(14:36):
let all my family know.
My family knew what's going onlet all them know what's going
on, um, and then homeboy took atrip to jamaica and he came back
and I had an apartment in a carI was letting them know this
ain't it.
Yeah, no, I was like got to go.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
That takes a lot of grit.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Oh, it definitely did and I definitely was confused.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
You were scared, I'm sure.
Yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, and I had the church.
Some of the church talked to me, some of it did the church back
in Louisiana, by the way.
Some of them talked to me someof them didn't, but I was like,
isn't that it?
Yeah, and then it's the fact of, like traditionally,
african-americans don't believein therapy.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Oh, okay, neither do we Bruh Hispanics don't either.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Bruh.
So instead of like going to atherapist and talking about my
problems, unfortunately I wasgoing to Chili's, and that just
for maybe like a year or sobefore I moved to texas.
That was how I was coping.
(15:37):
And then I got out here, um,got plugged into a church, got
re-baptized, um, got intotherapy, wow.
And now it's different, and nowI can look at some stuff and be
like the fact that you know, um, we couldn't have in the house
at one point, that used to makeme so mad.
Now aaron doesn't care, we evenlose all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
That's awesome, it's just stuff like that.
But yeah, no, but anyway,that's awesome, that's so
awesome.
That's awesome because?
But now getting divorced isinteresting.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It's hard yeah and I was the same like I went through
the whole like I would.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I was drinking excessively, um, even seeing
people with no title and um,just disrespecting myself 100%,
and I thought I like in my headit was like so I was divorced, I
wanted to get out of thedivorce but I didn't deal with
it and I needed to.
I did that and then, until Idid, and then it all kind of
(16:25):
came crashing and then I kind oftried doing it by myself
because I felt like a brokenrecord and um, yeah, it was hard
, but a lot of like it wasbeautiful.
What came out of it?
You know, like I'm, I've beensober now for a long time and,
um, a lot of goodness came out.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I guess.
So I mean a lot of more goodcame out of it than bad.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
You know, the bad was my son doesn't grow up with a
family, um, and he might notunderstand it now.
Sometimes he'll ask like thingsand say things, like you know
what, if you and my daddy ever,or my my tata he calls him if
you ever got, if y'all ever gotback together, he's he's said
that before and now he's at theage, like before if he would
(17:07):
mention that I couldn't reallyexplain it.
But now he's at the age where Ican tell him you know this is
like we both love you and youknow God put us in each other's
paths so that you can be here tolove us forever.
Like there's just I guess thatwould be the only bad thing, but
for him it's not I don't knowhow to explain that Like it's
(17:29):
not a bad thing, but I guess youknow divorce sucks and that's
something he's going to have towork through, and he even went
to therapy for that, yeah.
So yeah, I guess that would bethe only bad thing.
Have you done therapy?
I kind of rambled.
I've been in and out of it.
Go on, me too, me too, I'vequestioned myself with it too,
(17:54):
because I know I need, I stillneed it, you know, and I I get
scared, it gets scary and I'lldo it.
And then I run and I'm like, ohmy gosh, what did I say?
And yeah, I don't know likeit's, that's something that's
been heavy on my head, on mymind.
Like you, you need to I willtell you so.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I did therapy when, um, we're kind of right after
the divorce is final and then Iwant to say for maybe like two
years a year or something likethat.
Okay then I stopped mainlybecause my I changed jobs and my
insurance changed and all thattherapy can be expensive.
So I was like, bro, I can't,like, unfortunately, I can't
afford that anymore.
(18:27):
Um, but here recently, um, Istarted seeing a therapist, and
this one's different, becausethe first one I had she was,
excuse me, just on FaceTime,wasn't in person.
So this one, a new one I have,I'm actually going to see her in
person.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
And how is that?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Because mine was going to.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I would highly recommend.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Really Switch it up, girl.
Okay, when I tell you you Ilike to, when I first time I
went in.
Uh, first of all, I'm super,sometimes can be very socially
awkward, so I walk in, I'm likeokay, I'm racing on your couch.
Like you know, it was all likereally nice and she has like the
like the um pink himalayan oh,we're trying to set like the
(19:09):
vibe, or whatever, yeah, butshe's really nice, so I pay my
gladly every three weeks $40 togo and talk to her for about an
hour.
Well, I think it's not, yeah,that's cool.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I would highly recommend and even so, it's
local here.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
But High Sky Children Ranch, they have a therapy part
and they do offer therapy forthe community.
And on the community, it's ascale, it's on income.
Okay, so there's an income ofhow much you pay.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm glad we put it for youguys.
We have to get some information.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
No, when I tell you I thoroughly enjoy it.
Yeah, thoroughly enjoy it,that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You know, my son started therapy whenever we me
and my ex-husband got a divorceand it came out of.
It came out of his dad becausehis mom it um the connection was
with with his mom, and in myhead, like that's not normal in
in our family, you know, and um,when he said that, I kind of
like like I don't agree, like Idon't think anything is going to
come out of that, but I did itand I and I admire my son
(20:15):
because of the strength that,like the, the courage that that
it takes to do that, and um, notevery now.
And then he'll say he'llmention her and he'll say hey,
um, do you think you knowthere's?
I want there's some.
He knows how to handle hisemotions.
Like if he doesn't, hissolution is I need to talk to
her about this so that Iunderstand how to handle this,
(20:40):
and that was why I got motivatedto do it, because of him, and
he had no idea like how much Iadmire that, you know, know,
because I think that's awesomelike he was.
He was, I think four or fivewhen he started going and he
goes in and out now because youknow he doesn't do it as much.
But, um, yeah, I thought itjust.
(21:00):
I always I've always said thatlike he's just amazing for
taking, like for doing that.
You know, because we're so, I'mso scared I speak for myself
I'm so scared to talk aboutanything any feelings I have, I
will run, I will not talk aboutit.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I feel like that was me the first time I did therapy,
but, um, I feel like I realized, especially dating aaron,
because aaron's so, um,vulnerable and transparent like
being married to him, you can'thave, like there would be no way
for him to be able to look athimself in the mirror and for me
to be his partner in life andcan't do this.
Yeah, and I think, um, withthat mindset, is to where now
(21:39):
I'm like, not, I want to say I'man open book, which I am to
certain people.
I mean, if you ask me aquestion, I'll answer it, but
I'm blurting all my informationout to the world yeah, yeah at
the same time.
But um, I just think therapy,you know, you just have to be
comfortable with the idea oflike, looking and realizing.
Not saying that you may thinkyou're perfect, but I think when
you have a therapist, likeworking through things, you're
(21:59):
starting to realize okay, I needto work on this I need to
actually still work on this andthat's true, yeah, and I think
that's also some of the toughparts, some of that also is, he
said, kind of tapping into thoseemotions and realizing it's OK
to feel sad.
Yeah, it's OK not to be OK.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
It's.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
OK to still be disappointed, that, like for me,
I was disappointed in the factthat I had another divorce.
Yes, yes, it's likedisappointing with that or the
idea of having a failed marriage, like you know, um, but I will
say that once you're um ready tolook in the mirror, it changes
(22:38):
um, because now you don't thinksome of that is shame, is
holding on to it, like you gottago with the shame, like it
happened.
Yeah, unfortunately, divorcehas happened.
Yeah, um, you know, yes, for me, like, yes, there's some things
I could have done different,but there's just some things
that they're speaking up anddoing with me that have
something to do with him, andit's just, you know, yeah,
owning that.
And looking in the mirror andsaying okay, yeah.
(23:02):
And then, crazy, I mean, rightbefore I started talking to
aaron, I actually tried again totalk to my ex because at that
point in my head, you know, Ihad um, let's share with Christ.
I went through therapy, I washealed and I grew.
Well, maybe he grew by chance.
So let's just, you know, justsee it out.
(23:23):
Maybe you know, girl, thattalking lasted, maybe I don't
think we made it a month, Ithink maybe a week or two weeks,
couple conversations, and thatcontrolling part came back and I
was like, oh no, oh no, likeyou actually haven't grown and
actually don't worry about this.
I'm so sorry that I evenreached out to you, I think I, I
(23:43):
think I would have to apologizefor my end of it.
Yeah, um, because I was likethere's some things I realized
now that I could have donedifferent.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yes, yeah, I was like yeah, no, I mean he's like he
didn't even give us a shot.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
No, definitely did try, and it um didn't work out.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
You didn't.
You've never worked on yourselfand, and you see, for me I have
to.
My ex-husband is this, thefather of my child, so he has to
be involved, and my son's oldernow, so it's only to a certain
degree.
But even to that degree, um,sometimes he, he can.
He's still the same in a lot ofways.
Yeah, and I see it because youknow we have to communicate, um,
(24:20):
but I've really learned how towith that, you know, because I
can't run from that, I can't getaway from that, because we have
a child together and, um, myson loves him, you know he's,
that's his world, and um, I hadto learn that the way I feel
like, the way I I feel about anyindividual and, um, the way the
(24:42):
way they made me feel itdoesn't matter because there's
somebody out there thatabsolutely adores them and that
they've made a difference inthat person's life in some way.
So I have to remember that.
And that's what I that's what Itry to, that's what I implement
with him.
Like it's kind of like I havehealed from that.
(25:03):
I feel like I've healed fromthat situation, that marriage
and the divorce and he's juststill very angry in some ways or
just has some qualities thatare the same and, um, you, just
it's not, it's no longersomething that you just, like
you, said, like I just feel badbecause you, you haven't healed,
you haven't worked on yourself,and you know so yeah, funny
(25:26):
story.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Someone I don't know who and he swears that day that
I did someone sent him a pictureof aaron and I it's not funny.
Someone sent a picture of aaronand I was like this is what
true love and happiness.
I did not have the number, I donot know who it was, uh, but he
was like uh, something like uh,when you find out who this is,
(25:47):
I ain ain't fucking out, theyain't texting my phone, so he
got that message.
Oh my.
And then he screenshot it andsent it to me.
Oh, okay, my number's still thesame.
Yes, yes, and that's like a.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
that's a hard pill to swallow, honestly Like to see
that On his side.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
On his side, yes, probably.
It's probably not a good thing,but I, I don't know who- said
that to you, but it's my man.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah, we're chilling.
It's good too.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I mean we were honest enough.
We were like we weren't marriedso we were still like honestly,
can you take on that picture ofyour action?
I'm sure you probably did.
Okay, yeah, anyway, yeah,divorce is interesting.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
It is interesting it is to say like it's very, it's
waves, you know it really islike you're good one day and
then the next day you're not,and then one day you're good and
then until you're.
I feel like you get you.
You do get to the point whereyou're good, but you have to
make.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
There's just a lot that comes in between and it's
not gonna be from one day to thenext and you can't expect that
and I can only imagine becausemy ex and I that we don't have
kids, so like that communicationafter this last time where I
thought we were gonna get backtogether.
After that, there's nocommunity.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I don't communicate, yeah yeah, and we do so yeah, so
I mean, that's kind of a and Ithink even the challenge there
was even challenges where youknow he's, he's with somebody
now and, uh, he has kids withhim now.
But whenever they first hadtheir, whenever I first found
out about the first, uh, theirfirst child, that she was
pregnant, I think that's kind ofwhen I really dug into how I
(27:20):
felt about, about this, theseparation and all that, and I
had to really deal with itbecause it was like it for me it
was a hard pill, just like Ididn't have my family.
They had, you know, he.
It was just a lot of emotionsand it was at the time it was
like a lot of, I think, likejealousy and hate and insecurity
and spite and like why couldn'tyou do that for me?
(27:41):
Why couldn't you give me that?
It was a bunch of healing thatcame with it because I saw, I
guess I thought it was likeslipping through my hand, but it
was a blessing.
You know, the divorce was ablessing for me, um, but yeah, I
don't, don't know I got offtopic there.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
You talked about your friends just now.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I did yeah, so I don't know why you're running
away.
Okay, therapist.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Well, you know.
So actually I am technically sothis is my little blonde self.
I put on there that I was alife coach Girl.
I read the certificate againit's a certified mental health
coach.
Answered the same thing, butanyway.
But no, my dream is to finishup school at OC and to get into
(28:23):
social work.
Oh, wow.
So therapy is like where myheart is and I can see that.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I see that with you and Aaron, really you'll have
that.
I think it's easy to gravitateand, like you, can pick that up.
You know, I, I see that and Ihope that you're that's
something that you really I'mgoing to be rooting for you
because I I can see that I cansee you doing that I enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I didn't really, I didn't quite understand why,
like people would be like tellif you tell me, like all their
everything, and I'm like waitwhat?
But now realizing that that ismy gift and, um, I do realize
that I think it's my firstepisode of my podcast, but
someone came on and talked aboutsomething.
They're like.
I have never talked about thatand I've always been scared, but
(29:09):
sitting with you was verytherapeutic and it was easy and
this is scary.
This is scary now, yeah, for me,but it's like I'm glad I was
able to make you feelcomfortable enough to open up
because, at the end of the day,you opening up allows someone
else that's listening to this tohopefully realize, for one,
(29:30):
they're not the only one, yes,and for two, to realize we have
so much more in common with ourneighbors than you realize it.
Hey, I've known you for I don'tknow.
I've known aaron for about twoyears yeah, so I've probably
known you for about two years.
I had no idea you were divorcedyeah, but then also, I mean we
talk and say hey, but we neveractually had like a real
conversation.
Yeah, but yeah, no.
So it's the fact of the matter.
(29:51):
Is this's just why I lovehosting and having this yeah
that's because you're able to,um, sit down, have the
conversation, get to know thepeople around you, but I think
not only just getting to knowthem, but you know.
Let's just say, um, I see youout and about and I feel like
now you know, when you see meout and about, you have a safe
(30:12):
like you have a safe person, youknow, at the end of the day, if
you see me somewhere you about.
You have a safe, like you have asafe person.
You know, at the end of the day, if you see me somewhere,
you're having a bad day.
You need something.
I'm there.
Yes, so it's.
I think this is also what comeswith.
It is setting that foundationsfor relationships going forward.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, yes, I agree, and that's that's beautiful,
that you take the time to dothis and have these
conversations.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
You getting it out of me, girl.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Free therapy session.
You didn't even know you neededit $40 where?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
And look, she says so , when the next time you're a
quarantine, come sit down, I amdone, Okay, wait.
So I do want to touch on howyou actually ended up at Ector
County, because I mean, let'sjust be honest, I don't know
that many young people that areout serving as far as,
(31:03):
especially, I think at one pointit's- actually an elected
position, right?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yes, so you're going to have to run In November, this
November, I have to put my namein in November.
Yes, okay, well, I'll be readyto hold my sign and wear my
t-shirt.
I'll be here.
I'll drop off a sign andeverything when you see the sign
out in the yard, just know itwas me it was Polly.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
If we definitely, if we believe in it, we'll
definitely we had to sign outfor oh, that's a college.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I'm a student.
I believe that school needssome.
But anyway, yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
So when did you start with Ekigami?
So I'll kind of go back to theway it started.
So criminal justice has alwaysbeen like it for me.
Really, I love it and growingup like I would watch cops and I
was obsessed with it and thenall those shows and I dreamed of
being a cop.
I really did so in high school.
(32:03):
I remember doing some criminaljustice class.
It's always been just a bigpassion.
Um, after high school I wasgoing to school for criminal
justice and then after highschool a position opened with an
attorney and I didn't knownothing about anything.
I was going to school for it.
But I found this opportunitycame and I went and applied the
(32:27):
attorney.
I remember he told me the girlsthat work here they're B-words,
they're rude and they're meanand they're going to be mean and
this and that, can you handleit?
Because I'm small.
I was like, yeah, you know, Ididn't know what I was talking
about.
I didn't know what to expect oranything.
I started there at 18.
(32:49):
It was a receptionist position.
I ended up growing into it as areceptionist position.
I ended up going growing intoit as a legal assistant and then
that attorney ended up funnybecause he was in.
He was an attorney, so he wasin court and that judge brought
him.
This is his story.
I brought him to his chambersand asked, like he said, hey,
(33:13):
I'm retiring and I really wantyou to take this position.
And so then my boss, he startedthinking about it and he
decided this was something hewas going to do.
So he offered it to me and atthe time I was still married and
my ex-husband now, during thatthat time he was not always very
(33:35):
supportive of anything that Idid and, um, he hated the, the
job and, um, he just alwaysdiscredited that job.
But honestly, I, he didn't, hedidn't want me to work and
wanted me to be a stay-at-home.
You know, wife and um, andthat's very normal, like in the
Hispanic community, that's verynormal.
I, just in the Hispaniccommunity, that's very normal.
I just couldn't like I just hadthis dream and I just wanted to
(33:57):
pursue it and you know, but Istill wanted to be a wife, I
still wanted to be that, havethat family dynamic, but this
was always just there, you know.
So when the judge, when theattorney at the time, he told me
hey, do you want to take that?
Like, I want you to come withme to the courthouse and be my
court administrator, which islike my right hand.
I didn't immediately say yesbecause of that, because of my
(34:20):
marriage and because you know, Ididn't know I was kind of
conflicted.
And then this thing happenedwhere I like something happened,
and then I decided, okay, Ineed to get out of this.
So I did.
And then then I did, I movedout, I moved in with my mom and
my dad and and then, um, afterthat I talked to him, justin
Lowe, the, he was an attorneythen and he, um, he asked me
(34:44):
about it again, he brought it upin conversation and I took I, I
said yes, like I was gonna comeand I didn't know what I was
doing, but I was gonna do it andI was in like it was in the
legal field and that's all itwas, you know, and I didn't know
how it was going to turn out oranything, but it did and it it
ended up working out.
So then I came to the courthousewith him and, um, I was with
(35:07):
him as a, as an attorney.
I was with him 18, seven yearsand then I went to the
courthouse and then I became hiscourt administrator.
And it's funny because, like,after the whole cop, I wanted to
be a cop.
I ended up going, I went backto school and I pursued my
bachelor's degree and then I,and then I, oh, I always wanted
(35:28):
to be a probationer.
That's then like that was mynext thing.
I can kind of I can see it.
That was my next thing and itwas always like the mentality
can see it that was my nextthing, and it was always like
the mentality of like.
I always want to help the peoplein this, in this field, because
, like in the at the attorney'soffice, they're walking into the
attorney's office and thisshould be their safe place
Because the outside world seesthem as these ugly and dangerous
(35:50):
, horrible people.
So I always made that, thatlike.
I always made it an effort tomake them feel like hey, I'm not
judging you.
Like we're friends, you know.
And so, with probation, thatwas the same thing, like I
wanted to make a difference inthese people's lives so that
they never came back to thesystem and that there was hope,
there was somebody that wantedto push for them, for their
(36:11):
success, and all of that.
So, while I was at the court,um, a position opened up with
probation and like this was mydream job, like this is what I
wanted to do.
So I told him, I said hey, um,this came up and he was like
really sad about it.
But he's like you know, I knowthis is what you wanted, and
blah, blah and um, so I appliedfor it.
(36:31):
I had an interview, um, I endedup taking the taking down, like
um, saying no to the positionbecause I was a single mom.
That's really why, like, Icouldn't afford to be and I said
that in that moment I was likethis is just not a dream, this
is not something I can pursue.
If I was married I could have,you know, but I don't have that,
(36:52):
so I just can't.
The smart thing wouldn't be todo this, like in this, in at
this time and I was.
It was kind of sad, but I endedup staying with the court and
it's still.
You know, I loved, I love thesystem in Hoan.
Um, you know it has its, it hasits ugly parts, but I just
enjoyed the being in the in itand um, so I stayed with the
(37:15):
courts and then the districtclerk that is was in the
position, clarissa Webster,amazing person, um, we worked
together because you know Iworked with the courts, she
works for the district clerk andyou know they work together.
So me and Clarissa alwaysworked so well together.
She was so helpful to me and wejust always had a really good.
(37:36):
It was always a really goodrelationship like from day one,
and she always just she wasamazing.
And so then, you know, sheended up taking the, she went to
, so she works for the OCA.
Now she's a court, so shedidn't retire.
She just a better opportunitypresented itself and she took it
(37:59):
and she was an amazing, amazingdistrict clerk, very
knowledgeable in what she didand very proud of it.
So she it ended up.
You know they had because sheleft before her term was over.
The judges have to appointsomeone to that position and um,
long story short, um, I did notoriginally say this was
(38:22):
something that I wanted to do,because I was also going to
court reporting school at thatpoint and um, do you know what
court reporting is like soeverybody like any hearings that
happen in the courtroom there'salways somebody typing
Speaker 2 (38:34):
everything.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
And that's what I was going to school for.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Girl, you have little fingers.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Every time you see them I'm like, yeah, so I was
doing that.
And then I'm kind of goingeverywhere because I'm thinking
about stuff.
I was also last year.
I remember I was doing that.
I was working a part time job.
I was, I was doing that.
I was working a part-time job,I was a server on the weekends
and then I would work for thecourts.
That was my full-time job.
(39:02):
So anyways, coming back to this, my boss came to me, Judge Lowe
, and he said I think you woulddo great.
I spoke to a few other peoplethat brought it to my attention
and I remember I was trying torecruit people to take this
position because in my head,like you know, I'm going to
court reporting school and Ilove judge low, Like I've worked
(39:24):
with him forever.
There's no way I can workanywhere else Like I'm used to
working for him and, um, Iremember talking to one of the
girls that I that I uh, like Itold I thought I thought she
would be perfect for theposition and she told me why she
, she didn't want to take it.
And we were having thatconversation and she mentioned
something about her pastor theprevious Sunday.
(39:46):
The message was like put asomewhere along the lines of put
a goal for yourself and believein yourself that you can, you
can, that you can that, thatthat's going to happen, like you
know, pray about it andthroughout the year, something
along those lines.
And I told her.
I told her you know, well,maybe God is speaking to you
(40:08):
through me and I felt like I kidyou not, like I felt like God
in that moment told me and I'mspeaking to you through her, and
I like it was like a, like ablow.
Honestly, that's what it wasand I ignored it.
I was like, oh, but in my head,like I started thinking should
I take this?
Like should I say, okay, I wantto put, I want to be considered
(40:32):
for this or whatever?
But I ignored it and I rememberI would wake up thinking about
it.
It was just in my head for along, long time and then the
judge brought it up again and Ijust kept deflecting because I
kept saying, like there's no way, you know, like first I'm
Hispanic, my name's GuadalupeNavarrete, and all these things
(40:53):
came in my head.
I'm little, you know, I'mHispanic, my name is Guadalupe
Navarrete, like you know, andall these things came in my head
.
I'm a, I'm little, you know, II can't, like I'm not married,
I'm a single mom, like I was aserver last year.
Like there's no way that I cando this.
And I talked to my, my dearfriend, rudy Moisek.
He's an attorney and I was like, hey, you know, just to seek
his guidance with it, and he's areally close friend of mine and
(41:14):
I really respect his judgment.
And he told me the story of theman that was stranded in the
ocean.
And the man that was strandedin the ocean he prayed to God.
That God is going to God, Iknow you're going to get me out
of this, I have full faith thatyou're going to get me out of
this and he kind of really knewall the struggles that I kind of
(41:35):
went through last year, and soI think that's why he shared
this with me.
So he's stranded in the oceanand there's a boat that comes to
try to save him and he says no,god is going to save me.
And then a second boat comessame response.
Third boat comes same response.
And then he dies, he drowns,and then he tells God, like you
(41:58):
know, I prayed and I said youwere going to save me and you
didn't.
And he said I sent, I tried todo it three times and you
ignored me, like you didn't payattention.
So that really stuck with me,you know, because people kept
coming to me and telling me Ithink you'd be great for this
position and people that Irespect, like honorable people
(42:19):
that I really respect within thecourt system, and so that was
kind of that moment where I saidlike I needed I think this is
this is it, you know, and itkind of just really it just fell
on my lap and there was a lotof like disappointment and hard
work behind that.
(42:40):
That just to me, it always justwent so unnoticed but I never
wanted to take away, like Ialways wanted to be proud of
everything that I did and and Ididn't understand like why
things were not really comingtogether for me, but I trusted
that.
You know, I know God, but I Ialso in the back of my head.
I feel like we all, or at leastI always had it in the back of
(43:00):
my head, like when, yeah, but itwill get better but when you
know, then I was constantlytrying to find ways to make it
better, like you know, getting asecond job and, um, just doing
all kinds of things to just tryto fix my life, you know, under
my own term.
And then, um, yeah, so I endedup putting my hat in I mean, my
(43:21):
name in the hat and the, thejudges appointed me and I was
appointed on the 3rd of marchand here I am and it's been a
really, it's been a really coolblessing because god has just
revealed, like you know, when wetalked about you don't know, he
knows, and it was there's justso much blessings that have came
(43:44):
out of this and, um, he put mein a position where, you know, I
love to help people and I loveto serve and be there for other
people and and I love the legalfield and to be able to do that
together.
Um, such a blessing to me.
You know, I get to be thecenter of that and and do it to
(44:05):
the best of my ability and, yeah, so I just thought it was just
like when it happened, I wasjust like god there's like I
told you, you, I wanted it toget better, but this is too much
.
Like I can't, I'm overwhelmed byit, like I was very overwhelmed
by just the blessing that, um,all the blessings that this came
(44:25):
with, you know, and um, so yeah, I, I love, I love the position
because I get to do that, I getto be in the middle of that
field.
That I absolutely love, youknow, and it's hard to
understand and it's not perfect,but I love it, I love to learn
about it, I love to to justlearn about it.
(44:46):
And then I get to help peopleand, you know, to a certain
degree, you know the districtclerk is always a neutral party
to everything, but I still getto serve the public and and yeah
, so, yeah, that's it.
I kind of went everywhere withthat.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I'm sorry, but yeah wow, I mean it's crazy just to
see.
Um look, I mean to hear yourstory.
You can just see how, like thewhole time you were just taking
step by step, step by step, yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
So yeah, it's been a really big blessing.
Very, I don't take it forgranted at all.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
What did your son say when you got appointed?
Speaker 3 (45:24):
He kind of didn't know, like you know, when we,
because it was in the courtroom.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Because he held the Bible.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Yeah, but he was scared because there was a lot
of people in there and he wastelling my mom, like why is
there so many people in here?
Speaker 1 (45:40):
for my mom Like what's going on.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
So he doesn't quite understand it, which I think is
awesome, because I always sayyou know, it doesn't matter what
I do with my life ever, itdoesn't matter who I am, my
world stops for that kid.
Like if that kid is hungry and Ihave to like everything stops
for him, and you know, I mean,yeah, he doesn't know that and
(46:08):
he doesn't have to Like I thinkthat's the job of a mom to the
world stops for your kids.
I think that's the job of a momto the world stops for your
kids, and I think that's and Godhas put me in a position where
I'm able to to do that.
So, yeah, he, he doesn't quiteknow, but he sees people, like
if he goes to the office everynow and then and I'm in my
office and he'll be like what islike who?
(46:29):
What do you do?
Like what do you?
What is your dog Like?
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (46:32):
You know he doesn't really understand it, but but
when he does, he'll know hismom's name will be in Edgar
County history books History.
Yes, because you are the first.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
First Hispanic and I think I, if I'm not mistaken,
I'm also.
I'm the first to hold abachelor's degree and, um, I
don't know if I'm the youngest,I'm not sure, but first hispanic
.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
How did that told you that?
Uh it feels good, but it's verylike overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
You know, like me and like who am?
I you know and and exactly whogod sent yes, yeah, the job yeah
, and I realized that now, butat the time it was just like who
am I?
You know, I don't come frombackground.
My parents and my family itdoes not.
They do not come from apolitical background.
And you know, this is on no,like what.
You know, it was just one ofthose things, like God, I asked
(47:26):
you to to make a way, but Ididn't expect the way to look
like this.
You know what I mean.
So it was.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
It was just very overwhelming what did they say
um what does this tell god?
You're playing and he laughs,or something he sure does, he
sure does he laughs.
He probably got a real goodchuckle girl, I mean I'm not
pointing at you because I'm surehe looked at me and be like
girl, girl, okay, yeah, for sure, oh my, okay you look back and
you're like you know god, you'refunny, literally here recently,
(47:57):
like I just sit back and Ithink, especially when you get
to that moment, first of all, doyou want it?
yes, I do okay, so when you getto that moment, when you're in a
healthy marriage, coming out ofone that is not, you have
moments.
I promise you the first time Imet aaron.
I had to pinch myself because itwas like simple things like I'm
where, I don't think we weregay, we were just friends and I
(48:19):
was sick but he was leaving outof town to go probably to
crossfit something um, and camein my house and bought me like
pho and medicine and flowers andice cream and all kinds of
stuff and I was like Like what,what up?
Oh.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
I love that.
I was like like what, yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:36):
So I think that's where, for me, therapy came in
handy.
Okay, because.
I say it all the time If Ididn't go through therapy, I
wouldn't know how to handleAaron Really, because he just
was complete opposite of what Iwas choosing.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Yeah, and that was going to be my question.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Like how did you, how were you able?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
to accept that when you never had it before therapy.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah, because I would have been like what?
Because I definitely, even then, when he I was like, and
sometimes he does- stuff and I'mlike and for him that gesture
was.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
He was like what do you mean?
It's normal, and for you it waseverything.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
I was like yeah, there is no way, what's going on
?
Speaker 2 (49:09):
and even randomly.
I mean there's technicallythere's dead flowers in there
now because they died, but everyso often it just brings back,
let's see, yeah, therapy forsure, because if not, I've been
like noted, noted, yeah, ifthere's a number of you to go,
go, girl, see me ready for yournext.
Yes, man, that baggage will beunpacked, okay.
So my last question for you iswhat do you stand for?
Speaker 3 (49:34):
what do I stand?
Speaker 2 (49:35):
yeah, I'm gonna jump you.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
I'm going to re-answer that Because I feel
like this episode, I have adifferent answer, okay, than
previous episodes.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
So currently I, yanni Thomas, say I stand for
remembering that, or treatingpeople like they're human.
Treating people like they'rehuman yeah, that's what I would
say.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Before I think I said like spreading kind of, which
is not a bad thing, yeah, butthis current stage of my life?
Speaker 2 (50:04):
I just believe yeah, and I can agree with that.
I can agree with that, I think,especially if your job is
making it to where you have tobe a new party.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
You probably see yeah , I would agree with that.
Nothing like comes up to.
Honestly, nothing crazy comesup.
Yeah, I hate that, but nothingcomes to my head, um, besides
just treating people with.
Be that, be that good comment.
Yeah, make somebody's day, Iguess.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yeah oh, I have a a little.
It's a saying or block orwhatever it is on my desk that a
co-worker gave me to be thereason why someone smiles today.
Yeah, there you go.
I often have to ring out thedoor because the flesh be trying
to kill me.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yes, girl, and I be like squid mind what is actually
happening.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
But yeah, no, well, is there anything else?
You would like to add that Iforgot that you're like hey.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
I guess I could just say just it gets better.
You know, sometimes everybody'ssituation is different, but it
really does get if you, if youput in the work and um and not.
I'm not just saying that likework-wise, I'm just I'm saying
that in like you you as a personit gets better, and that better
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is more than you can handle.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
You know um, so yeah well, with that note, I would
say thank you, yes, for comingto have a conversation with us.
I say us meeting all of mylisteners yeah, this was so fun
anyway, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
I had this is awesome .
I was like nervous.
I was so nervous.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah says I don't like talking like when I come to
the door, I was like I'm sonervous.
And I was like nervous, I wasso nervous yeah, says everyone
like talking.
Like when I come to the door, Iwas like I'm so nervous and I'm
like girl chill yeah, this iscool, I forgot that was even
playing over there.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Yeah, because it's the only way.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
It's just a conversation, yeah, yeah, and
you're allowing people torealize you know they have
common, something in common withyou.
Come with us, hey, we can havea whole discussion just about
divorce yeah, yeah, and it's agood.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
It was like a good reminder for me.
Like you know, girl, this isyou went through stuff and you
acknowledge, don't disregard it,but look, you're in a good
place and be thankful for that.
You know, because we forget, weforget to, we look at the what
we're, the current, whateverthat looks like, and we forget
all that has just changed.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah, no, for sure, I think also it's a reminder of
life comes the seasons.
For one, they're not your wholebook, just a chapter.
Yes.
And then for two, it's not yourcharacter or it's not your
identity.
Yes, it may be you knowsomething that happened or
something you did, but yes, likesomeone's you're not and I'm
not walking around saying I'm adivorcee, mm-hmm.
(52:37):
Yeah, yeah, but I mean, if itcomes up, it comes up.
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
And I just think it's important to know that there is
a lesson behind.
Like, even if for us theoutcome sucks, there is a lesson
behind it.
And what can you do better?
How can you improve?
Speaker 2 (53:03):
You know what, can you work on because of that
situation.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah, look in the mirror well, um for those that
are listening.
I will tell you that you areloved.
You are needed, needed.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
You are emphasized on the needed right.
You are needed um.
What did I say?
Speaker 3 (53:10):
I forgot now and forgetful and it's all right
yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
And you are seen.
We are all human, we are allgoing through things, so don't
think you're the only one.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
Yeah, and remember that Jesus loves you.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yeah, and he sees you .
He does, and I think for me,recently, I had to remember that
he sees you when your times aregood, and he sees you when
times are bad, when your timesare good, and he sees you in
times are bad, um, he countsyour tears, um, and he's always
there, even when you it seemslike you know how or why.
I don't know how or why, butGod does.
So I would just tell you topray and talk to him, um, and
(53:49):
start that relationship.
Yes, and if you're looking fora church in Odessa Midland area,
come see us.
At Hope Alive, I said come seeus.
I'm going to be honest, I needto get better with going to
church, but anyway, that is mychurch.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
So come see us at Hope Alive.
But all right, bye, bye.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Thank you for listening to another episode of
Standing in your Truth withYanni.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of
Standing your Truth Podcast.
I am your host, yoni.
This is definitely a secondtake.
The first one I won't get themic was on, but anyway, how are
you guys doing?
Hopefully you are not too warmwhere you are out here.
It hasn't been too bad.
Um, we've had some rain, whichis hell, but anyway, we've had
(00:55):
some rain and we have some wind.
That's made it to where it's umhasn't been too bad out here,
but um, I'm pretty excited toactually get to know my guests
on a different level.
So I'm gonna let her introduceherself hi everyone.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So my name is lupita navarrete or guadalupe navarrete
.
Um I am, do I?
What do I say?
Like my job or my age.
I turned 30 two weeks ago.
I think you did.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
She's looking fabulous on the picture.
When I reached out I was likegirl, I need you on my podcast,
because you're glowing.
I need to know why.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I work for Rector County.
I am the district clerk as ofMarch.
I was appointed, so it's newfor me, but I've been in the
legal field for a good while.
Um, this position has just beena blessing, but it's we come.
It came with a lot of new.
Yeah, and yeah, that's me.
I'm a mom.
I forgot about my son.
(01:55):
I'm like I was like I'm a mom.
Yeah, he went with his, with mysister for a week to dallas, so
I'm I forgot about him.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh snap, so you're a single mom?
I mean, you're not a momtechnically, quote unquote.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, I'm not a mom this week, I think you're always
a mom.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
but technically quote unquote Taking a break.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, oh, that's fun.
So, yeah, he's.
So I have a son, he's nine,turned nine in February, and
that's just me and Junior, andyeah, that's me All right.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
So first question what motivates you?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
My son?
That's an easy question for me.
That's really what motivates me.
He pushes me more than he knows.
I always say he's.
I always say, like he has noidea that, like he has no idea
what I've done.
You know, but I don't, I don'twant, I don't need him to.
What I've done, you know, but Idon't, I don't want, I don't
need him to, but he has no ideathe impact he's made in my life,
like the way he pushes me.
(02:48):
And he's only been in thisworld for nine years and he's
just getting started.
Yes, little does he know.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, how do you protect your mental health?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
How do I protect my mental health?
I think for me, that would besetting the appropriate
boundaries with uh do you dealwith it, uh, I, it's hard, you
know, because you especially ifyou're like a really big people,
pleaser, um, it's hard to setboundaries because you don't
want to break, like you don'twant to, the relationships you
(03:19):
have and that you build like youdon't want to, I guess put a
block on that.
Sometimes it's not even like aboundary of like, just don't
speak to me ever again, but it'sjust, uh, just space, you know,
and you don't want to do thatsometimes, but it's, it's just
came with time.
I think trial and error, likeanything else, you know you
don't set a boundary somewhereand you learn what that outcome
(03:43):
is and then you try to implementit next time, or you don't, and
you keep making that mistakeuntil you don't.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I think that would be the I literally the last
episode talked about the residueof pleasing, and I do well
sometimes with settingboundaries.
I don't just like you said,sometimes it's the me worrying
about what someone I was.
I also don't want to hurtanyone's feelings, so the
thought crosses my mind verybriefly, but there is residue to
(04:10):
it.
Glad that you were able tosettle down, drew.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It's a challenge.
I'm not great at it.
It's something I'm working on,okay.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Nothing wrong with that.
What do you do for yourself-care routine?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
The gym.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I was going to say now, if you don't mention the
gym, I know you go and she's abeast, the gym.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And I think running too Like it's.
I've always liked to run andrecently it's something that
I've done a little bit more andI really enjoy it Like it's,
that is.
I would say that it's themainly the gym all around, but
running just kind of puts me ina place of ease do you like.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Are you a run with headphones person or you just
from?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
run with headphones, um, but sometimes I'm not even
listening, like I listen, themusic's going, but my thoughts
are kind of just like I'm ableto think while I'm running
because I can't.
I feel like I try to do that aslike with my, my son, like as a
mom or working um, but I, Idon't know it, just to me it's
(05:17):
different when I'm running sowhat's your go-to song?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
as soon as you so you put the headphones on, you're
getting ready to run.
What is your song?
You're for sure putting onwhat's that song?
Maybe I should say the artist,if you can't think of the song
girl.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I can't even think about the artist, but it's like
a uh, what's the song?
It's now.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I'm like I'm gonna have to check your phone after
this.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to showyou.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
It's like a techno song, really.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, it's, it's good so it's like it like gets me it
gets the, it gets me going, youknow that's not funny, but
that's funny, like your whole.
I have to show you this songbecause it really bumps me up.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
And then now my like sometimes I'll just listen to
that song in my car with my sonand, um, he loves the song too
now.
So when he comes on, there's apart where he's like one, two,
three, four, or one two, three,I don't know.
But Junior already knows thatpart, I don't know it's.
It's a good song.
I have to show it to you.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, don't get me going okay, um, what is your
mindset when you are told no orthe door shuts?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
uh, no, is hard for me.
That's something verychallenging for me.
I've struggled a lot with thatand I guess that could come in
different ways with what was thesecond one, the um, when the
door closes, yeah, when the doorshuts.
When the door shuts, I'velearned that there has to be.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
There's a lesson in everything, like whether the
outcome is good or bad, and ifthat door shuts, there's a
lesson behind it, and I alwaystry to keep that in mind that
there's a lesson in every doorthat shuts and even, I guess,
when, with a no to, with a no toum, there is a lesson with that
, I think like I said this everyepisode when I have someone on,
(07:08):
but to me that um question kindof gives a insight into
whoever's answering it, likethey're just them as a person.
Some people say what you know,they tell me no, I'm still gonna
go through it.
So it's like, well, yeah yeah,yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I had a conversation once with aaron, something that
happened at work.
Um, maybe a year and a half ago, when I worked for the courts,
there was an.
There was a situation where theoutcome didn't go the way that
I wanted to, and essentially itwas a no and um, I took that
really hard, like my feelingswere super hurt.
I felt very humiliated by it Atthe time.
(07:48):
I didn't understand it.
Coming into this position, Iunderstood why that was a no To
me.
It was like God knew I wasn'tready for that.
Yes in that moment because Iwasn't mentally, emotionally, I
wasn't ready to accept that yesin that moment, because I wasn't
mentally like.
Emotionally, I wasn't ready toaccept that yes, even though I
(08:09):
thought I was you know.
So again it takes me back to it.
There's a lesson behind it.
Sometimes you don't understandit, but it's just not.
It's not on our timing, asfrustrating as that is it's just
not the timing for you, andthere's a.
You have to just trust that soit's hard?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
no, it doesn't, but I have a question.
So was that, if that yes wouldhave happened?
Was that yes, bigger than this,yes that you're currently
sitting in?
No, it wasn't it kind of givesthe you know on facebook or
instagram, they have a thingwhere it's like your plan and
it's god's plan, yes, and god'splan always looks way better
than what she thought.
Yes, so it's kind of.
(08:46):
It's exactly what that is.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yes, Wow yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So and that's why we talked about it, because I
something was coming up withthis new position and I was
nervous because of thatexperience and the I guess
people involved.
I was going to have to beinvolved with them in this
position and it the myinterpretation of that and
looking at it now was God wassaying no, but he was preparing
(09:14):
me for that for this moment toknow how to approach that
situation.
You know, so yeah it's the.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I think oftentimes when I pray, I'm always like, um
, thanking god, like for himbeing in control, because the
way we think that we know what'sbest for us, or we think how we
like our life should be, andthen, when you really just you
know, throw your hands up andgive it to him and let him be
the author and it starts going.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yes, girl, and it's hard, like it's so hard to not
want to take or to want to taketo let him take control.
That's that is a challenge for,I think, for everyone, you know
, and um, to understand thatit's not your timing, like that
is a hard pill to swallow.
It really is, but when, the,when that comes, the, the, I
(10:05):
can't even explain like how, howliberating that is and how like
amazing that feels.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It's like one of the pieces my grandpa first got to
odessa, I forgot which job thatI had live but anyway um one of
them.
He was like just when you go inthere, just start putting your
pieces and then eventually yourpuzzle piece will come together
I think sometimes you know, themore we navigate life, I love
that and begin to trust god.
It's like your pieces start tocome together and you're like,
oh okay, now I kind of see whyyou might have, you know, that
(10:34):
door to shut, and because herewe are now and I'm able to, you
know, touch and reach morepeople now than I ever would
have been before.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So it's wow, that's a good analogy.
Like I put that into my job now.
Um, that's something I will.
I'll for sure think about.
That's a good analogy.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I love that you can judge me okay oh, yes, I will
that is something you told meI'm gonna, I'm gonna say, just
buy me those puzzles yeah, he'llbe like still putting them
together.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You don't know me, but like for real.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Okay, so what is one moment in your life that has
shaped you or made a huge impacton your life, or in your life?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I think there's a lot of them.
One of them would be my divorce.
I was always really ashamed ofthat.
I don't think I know you were.
Yeah, I was.
I married young.
How young I was 19.
Oh, you're pretty young, I gotmarried at 22.
Yeah, I married at 22.
Yeah, I'm married at 22.
Yeah, so divorced, I wasdivorced at 25, so, but he was
(11:37):
like my high school sweetheart,so we were together when I was
15.
So, um, yeah, so we weretogether for a really long time.
Um, I would say that becauseyou know I mean you've been
through it so you understand theemotion behind it and I think
anyone that has been through adivorce under you can't explain
it.
But you understand the emotion,you know.
(11:58):
For me it was like I wanted outof the marriage and it was
still very hard yeah so I thinkthere's emotion either way and
you can't discredit.
I think that's for a long time Ikind of discredited my emotions
because I lived.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
You know I chose to do that, but I stopped doing
that, so that would be one thatwould probably be the main one
Getting a divorce and becoming asingle parent.
That came with a lot of lessonsthat I wouldn't have learned.
I don't advocate for divorcesand I don't encourage them, but,
um, if that wouldn't have beenthe outcome for me, I wouldn't
(12:36):
have, I wouldn't be who I am onit and that sounds very cliche,
but honestly I wouldn't.
I wouldn't be sorry when I cantell you I wholeheartedly, yeah,
wholeheartedly, and you get itlike there's no words that you
have to say, to say like I knowyou do, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Because they were, I guess, similar in the sense of I
fell first, yeah Same, I gothim served and I moved away.
But I did it because if Ididn't do it, I probably,
honestly, at this point, what amI now?
34?
So you know we wouldn't havemade it.
I probably would either bechecked into somebody's mental
thing or would have probablykilled myself.
It was just that, controllingthat much abuse there, that's
(13:16):
the road I was going down, but,needless to say, I don't have
this.
But at the same time you got toget into the divorce.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, I agree, and for me it was like I remember
sitting there and saying, like,looking back and saying, and
this was five years ago, Iremember, in our room and when I
, when that just came, I youknow something happened and I
said it just clicked.
I guess I remember looking atmy son.
(13:45):
He was asleep in our bed and itwas just me and him and I said
this is not what I want for mylife in five years.
And you know, I knew what isnot what I want for my life in
five years and you know, I knewwhat my mom had gone through
with my dad.
So I said my mom went throughthis so that I wouldn't have to.
And here I am, like, with somuch more opportunities and I
don't want this for my life infive years, and I never pictured
(14:05):
it to be like this.
Um, it was much better thanit's, much better than what I
anticipated, what I expected,but I just didn't want that like
it just clicks.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It just clicked, you know, I just don't want that for
my life you take.
I'm not gonna lie, I know, forme it was so long where I was
like kind of you, kind of um, Iguess it's almost like you had
your glasses on versus off, orfor you ignore it and you're
like, okay, it needs to getbetter and it didn't it don't,
and then I was like you knowwhat I just woke up one day and
(14:36):
let all my family know.
My family knew what's going onlet all them know what's going
on, um, and then homeboy took atrip to jamaica and he came back
and I had an apartment in a carI was letting them know this
ain't it.
Yeah, no, I was like got to go.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
That takes a lot of grit.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Oh, it definitely did and I definitely was confused.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
You were scared, I'm sure.
Yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, and I had the church.
Some of the church talked to me, some of it did the church back
in Louisiana, by the way.
Some of them talked to me someof them didn't, but I was like,
isn't that it?
Yeah, and then it's the fact of, like traditionally,
african-americans don't believein therapy.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Oh, okay, neither do we Bruh Hispanics don't either.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Bruh.
So instead of like going to atherapist and talking about my
problems, unfortunately I wasgoing to Chili's, and that just
for maybe like a year or sobefore I moved to texas.
That was how I was coping.
(15:37):
And then I got out here, um,got plugged into a church, got
re-baptized, um, got intotherapy, wow.
And now it's different, and nowI can look at some stuff and be
like the fact that you know, um, we couldn't have in the house
at one point, that used to makeme so mad.
Now aaron doesn't care, we evenlose all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
That's awesome, it's just stuff like that.
But yeah, no, but anyway,that's awesome, that's so
awesome.
That's awesome because?
But now getting divorced isinteresting.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It's hard yeah and I was the same like I went through
the whole like I would.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I was drinking excessively, um, even seeing
people with no title and um,just disrespecting myself 100%,
and I thought I like in my headit was like so I was divorced, I
wanted to get out of thedivorce but I didn't deal with
it and I needed to.
I did that and then, until Idid, and then it all kind of
(16:25):
came crashing and then I kind oftried doing it by myself
because I felt like a brokenrecord and um, yeah, it was hard
, but a lot of like it wasbeautiful.
What came out of it?
You know, like I'm, I've beensober now for a long time and,
um, a lot of goodness came out.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I guess.
So I mean a lot of more goodcame out of it than bad.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
You know, the bad was my son doesn't grow up with a
family, um, and he might notunderstand it now.
Sometimes he'll ask like thingsand say things, like you know
what, if you and my daddy ever,or my my tata he calls him if
you ever got, if y'all ever gotback together, he's he's said
that before and now he's at theage, like before if he would
(17:07):
mention that I couldn't reallyexplain it.
But now he's at the age where Ican tell him you know this is
like we both love you and youknow God put us in each other's
paths so that you can be here tolove us forever.
Like there's just I guess thatwould be the only bad thing, but
for him it's not I don't knowhow to explain that Like it's
(17:29):
not a bad thing, but I guess youknow divorce sucks and that's
something he's going to have towork through, and he even went
to therapy for that, yeah.
So yeah, I guess that would bethe only bad thing.
Have you done therapy?
I kind of rambled.
I've been in and out of it.
Go on, me too, me too, I'vequestioned myself with it too,
(17:54):
because I know I need, I stillneed it, you know, and I I get
scared, it gets scary and I'lldo it.
And then I run and I'm like, ohmy gosh, what did I say?
And yeah, I don't know likeit's, that's something that's
been heavy on my head, on mymind.
Like you, you need to I willtell you so.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I did therapy when, um, we're kind of right after
the divorce is final and then Iwant to say for maybe like two
years a year or something likethat.
Okay then I stopped mainlybecause my I changed jobs and my
insurance changed and all thattherapy can be expensive.
So I was like, bro, I can't,like, unfortunately, I can't
afford that anymore.
(18:27):
Um, but here recently, um, Istarted seeing a therapist, and
this one's different, becausethe first one I had she was,
excuse me, just on FaceTime,wasn't in person.
So this one, a new one I have,I'm actually going to see her in
person.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
And how is that?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Because mine was going to.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I would highly recommend.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Really Switch it up, girl.
Okay, when I tell you you Ilike to, when I first time I
went in.
Uh, first of all, I'm super,sometimes can be very socially
awkward, so I walk in, I'm likeokay, I'm racing on your couch.
Like you know, it was all likereally nice and she has like the
like the um pink himalayan oh,we're trying to set like the
(19:09):
vibe, or whatever, yeah, butshe's really nice, so I pay my
gladly every three weeks $40 togo and talk to her for about an
hour.
Well, I think it's not, yeah,that's cool.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I would highly recommend and even so, it's
local here.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
But High Sky Children Ranch, they have a therapy part
and they do offer therapy forthe community.
And on the community, it's ascale, it's on income.
Okay, so there's an income ofhow much you pay.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm glad we put it for youguys.
We have to get some information.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
No, when I tell you I thoroughly enjoy it.
Yeah, thoroughly enjoy it,that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You know, my son started therapy whenever we me
and my ex-husband got a divorceand it came out of.
It came out of his dad becausehis mom it um the connection was
with with his mom, and in myhead, like that's not normal in
in our family, you know, and um,when he said that, I kind of
like like I don't agree, like Idon't think anything is going to
come out of that, but I did itand I and I admire my son
(20:15):
because of the strength that,like the, the courage that that
it takes to do that, and um, notevery now.
And then he'll say he'llmention her and he'll say hey,
um, do you think you knowthere's?
I want there's some.
He knows how to handle hisemotions.
Like if he doesn't, hissolution is I need to talk to
her about this so that Iunderstand how to handle this,
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and that was why I got motivatedto do it, because of him, and
he had no idea like how much Iadmire that, you know, know,
because I think that's awesomelike he was.
He was, I think four or fivewhen he started going and he
goes in and out now because youknow he doesn't do it as much.
But, um, yeah, I thought itjust.
(21:00):
I always I've always said thatlike he's just amazing for
taking, like for doing that.
You know, because we're so, I'mso scared I speak for myself
I'm so scared to talk aboutanything any feelings I have, I
will run, I will not talk aboutit.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I feel like that was me the first time I did therapy,
but, um, I feel like I realized, especially dating aaron,
because aaron's so, um,vulnerable and transparent like
being married to him, you can'thave, like there would be no way
for him to be able to look athimself in the mirror and for me
to be his partner in life andcan't do this.
Yeah, and I think, um, withthat mindset, is to where now
(21:39):
I'm like, not, I want to say I'man open book, which I am to
certain people.
I mean, if you ask me aquestion, I'll answer it, but
I'm blurting all my informationout to the world yeah, yeah at
the same time.
But um, I just think therapy,you know, you just have to be
comfortable with the idea oflike, looking and realizing.
Not saying that you may thinkyou're perfect, but I think when
you have a therapist, likeworking through things, you're
(21:59):
starting to realize okay, I needto work on this I need to
actually still work on this andthat's true, yeah, and I think
that's also some of the toughparts, some of that also is, he
said, kind of tapping into thoseemotions and realizing it's OK
to feel sad.
Yeah, it's OK not to be OK.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
It's.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
OK to still be disappointed, that, like for me,
I was disappointed in the factthat I had another divorce.
Yes, yes, it's likedisappointing with that or the
idea of having a failed marriage, like you know, um, but I will
say that once you're um ready tolook in the mirror, it changes
(22:38):
um, because now you don't thinksome of that is shame, is
holding on to it, like you gottago with the shame, like it
happened.
Yeah, unfortunately, divorcehas happened.
Yeah, um, you know, yes, for me, like, yes, there's some things
I could have done different,but there's just some things
that they're speaking up anddoing with me that have
something to do with him, andit's just, you know, yeah,
owning that.
And looking in the mirror andsaying okay, yeah.
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And then, crazy, I mean, rightbefore I started talking to
aaron, I actually tried again totalk to my ex because at that
point in my head, you know, Ihad um, let's share with Christ.
I went through therapy, I washealed and I grew.
Well, maybe he grew by chance.
So let's just, you know, justsee it out.
(23:23):
Maybe you know, girl, thattalking lasted, maybe I don't
think we made it a month, Ithink maybe a week or two weeks,
couple conversations, and thatcontrolling part came back and I
was like, oh no, oh no, likeyou actually haven't grown and
actually don't worry about this.
I'm so sorry that I evenreached out to you, I think I, I
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think I would have to apologizefor my end of it.
Yeah, um, because I was likethere's some things I realized
now that I could have donedifferent.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yes, yeah, I was like yeah, no, I mean he's like he
didn't even give us a shot.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
No, definitely did try, and it um didn't work out.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
You didn't.
You've never worked on yourselfand, and you see, for me I have
to.
My ex-husband is this, thefather of my child, so he has to
be involved, and my son's oldernow, so it's only to a certain
degree.
But even to that degree, um,sometimes he, he can.
He's still the same in a lot ofways.
Yeah, and I see it because youknow we have to communicate, um,
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but I've really learned how towith that, you know, because I
can't run from that, I can't getaway from that, because we have
a child together and, um, myson loves him, you know he's,
that's his world, and um, I hadto learn that the way I feel
like, the way I I feel about anyindividual and, um, the way the
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way they made me feel itdoesn't matter because there's
somebody out there thatabsolutely adores them and that
they've made a difference inthat person's life in some way.
So I have to remember that.
And that's what I that's what Itry to, that's what I implement
with him.
Like it's kind of like I havehealed from that.
(25:03):
I feel like I've healed fromthat situation, that marriage
and the divorce and he's juststill very angry in some ways or
just has some qualities thatare the same and, um, you, just
it's not, it's no longersomething that you just, like
you, said, like I just feel badbecause you, you haven't healed,
you haven't worked on yourself,and you know so yeah, funny
(25:26):
story.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Someone I don't know who and he swears that day that
I did someone sent him a pictureof aaron and I it's not funny.
Someone sent a picture of aaronand I was like this is what
true love and happiness.
I did not have the number, I donot know who it was, uh, but he
was like uh, something like uh,when you find out who this is,
(25:47):
I ain ain't fucking out, theyain't texting my phone, so he
got that message.
Oh my.
And then he screenshot it andsent it to me.
Oh, okay, my number's still thesame.
Yes, yes, and that's like a.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
that's a hard pill to swallow, honestly Like to see
that On his side.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
On his side, yes, probably.
It's probably not a good thing,but I, I don't know who- said
that to you, but it's my man.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah, we're chilling.
It's good too.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I mean we were honest enough.
We were like we weren't marriedso we were still like honestly,
can you take on that picture ofyour action?
I'm sure you probably did.
Okay, yeah, anyway, yeah,divorce is interesting.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
It is interesting it is to say like it's very, it's
waves, you know it really islike you're good one day and
then the next day you're not,and then one day you're good and
then until you're.
I feel like you get you.
You do get to the point whereyou're good, but you have to
make.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
There's just a lot that comes in between and it's
not gonna be from one day to thenext and you can't expect that
and I can only imagine becausemy ex and I that we don't have
kids, so like that communicationafter this last time where I
thought we were gonna get backtogether.
After that, there's nocommunity.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I don't communicate, yeah yeah, and we do so yeah, so
I mean, that's kind of a and Ithink even the challenge there
was even challenges where youknow he's, he's with somebody
now and, uh, he has kids withhim now.
But whenever they first hadtheir, whenever I first found
out about the first, uh, theirfirst child, that she was
pregnant, I think that's kind ofwhen I really dug into how I
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felt about, about this, theseparation and all that, and I
had to really deal with itbecause it was like it for me it
was a hard pill, just like Ididn't have my family.
They had, you know, he.
It was just a lot of emotionsand it was at the time it was
like a lot of, I think, likejealousy and hate and insecurity
and spite and like why couldn'tyou do that for me?
(27:41):
Why couldn't you give me that?
It was a bunch of healing thatcame with it because I saw, I
guess I thought it was likeslipping through my hand, but it
was a blessing.
You know, the divorce was ablessing for me, um, but yeah, I
don't, don't know I got offtopic there.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
You talked about your friends just now.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I did yeah, so I don't know why you're running
away.
Okay, therapist.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Well, you know.
So actually I am technically sothis is my little blonde self.
I put on there that I was alife coach Girl.
I read the certificate againit's a certified mental health
coach.
Answered the same thing, butanyway.
But no, my dream is to finishup school at OC and to get into
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social work.
Oh, wow.
So therapy is like where myheart is and I can see that.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I see that with you and Aaron, really you'll have
that.
I think it's easy to gravitateand, like you, can pick that up.
You know, I, I see that and Ihope that you're that's
something that you really I'mgoing to be rooting for you
because I I can see that I cansee you doing that I enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I didn't really, I didn't quite understand why,
like people would be like tellif you tell me, like all their
everything, and I'm like waitwhat?
But now realizing that that ismy gift and, um, I do realize
that I think it's my firstepisode of my podcast, but
someone came on and talked aboutsomething.
They're like.
I have never talked about thatand I've always been scared, but
(29:09):
sitting with you was verytherapeutic and it was easy and
this is scary.
This is scary now, yeah, for me,but it's like I'm glad I was
able to make you feelcomfortable enough to open up
because, at the end of the day,you opening up allows someone
else that's listening to this tohopefully realize, for one,
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they're not the only one, yes,and for two, to realize we have
so much more in common with ourneighbors than you realize it.
Hey, I've known you for I don'tknow.
I've known aaron for about twoyears yeah, so I've probably
known you for about two years.
I had no idea you were divorcedyeah, but then also, I mean we
talk and say hey, but we neveractually had like a real
conversation.
Yeah, but yeah, no.
So it's the fact of the matter.
(29:51):
Is this's just why I lovehosting and having this yeah
that's because you're able to,um, sit down, have the
conversation, get to know thepeople around you, but I think
not only just getting to knowthem, but you know.
Let's just say, um, I see youout and about and I feel like
now you know, when you see meout and about, you have a safe
(30:12):
like you have a safe person, youknow, at the end of the day, if
you see me somewhere you about.
You have a safe, like you have asafe person.
You know, at the end of the day, if you see me somewhere,
you're having a bad day.
You need something.
I'm there.
Yes, so it's.
I think this is also what comeswith.
It is setting that foundationsfor relationships going forward.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, yes, I agree, and that's that's beautiful,
that you take the time to dothis and have these
conversations.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
You getting it out of me, girl.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Free therapy session.
You didn't even know you neededit $40 where?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
And look, she says so , when the next time you're a
quarantine, come sit down, I amdone, Okay, wait.
So I do want to touch on howyou actually ended up at Ector
County, because I mean, let'sjust be honest, I don't know
that many young people that areout serving as far as,
(31:03):
especially, I think at one pointit's- actually an elected
position, right?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yes, so you're going to have to run In November, this
November, I have to put my namein in November.
Yes, okay, well, I'll be readyto hold my sign and wear my
t-shirt.
I'll be here.
I'll drop off a sign andeverything when you see the sign
out in the yard, just know itwas me it was Polly.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
If we definitely, if we believe in it, we'll
definitely we had to sign outfor oh, that's a college.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I'm a student.
I believe that school needssome.
But anyway, yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
So when did you start with Ekigami?
So I'll kind of go back to theway it started.
So criminal justice has alwaysbeen like it for me.
Really, I love it and growingup like I would watch cops and I
was obsessed with it and thenall those shows and I dreamed of
being a cop.
I really did so in high school.
(32:03):
I remember doing some criminaljustice class.
It's always been just a bigpassion.
Um, after high school I wasgoing to school for criminal
justice and then after highschool a position opened with an
attorney and I didn't knownothing about anything.
I was going to school for it.
But I found this opportunitycame and I went and applied the
(32:27):
attorney.
I remember he told me the girlsthat work here they're B-words,
they're rude and they're meanand they're going to be mean and
this and that, can you handleit?
Because I'm small.
I was like, yeah, you know, Ididn't know what I was talking
about.
I didn't know what to expect oranything.
I started there at 18.
(32:49):
It was a receptionist position.
I ended up growing into it as areceptionist position.
I ended up going growing intoit as a legal assistant and then
that attorney ended up funnybecause he was in.
He was an attorney, so he wasin court and that judge brought
him.
This is his story.
I brought him to his chambersand asked, like he said, hey,
(33:13):
I'm retiring and I really wantyou to take this position.
And so then my boss, he startedthinking about it and he
decided this was something hewas going to do.
So he offered it to me and atthe time I was still married and
my ex-husband now, during thatthat time he was not always very
(33:35):
supportive of anything that Idid and, um, he hated the, the
job and, um, he just alwaysdiscredited that job.
But honestly, I, he didn't, hedidn't want me to work and
wanted me to be a stay-at-home.
You know, wife and um, andthat's very normal, like in the
Hispanic community, that's verynormal.
I, just in the Hispaniccommunity, that's very normal.
I just couldn't like I just hadthis dream and I just wanted to
(33:57):
pursue it and you know, but Istill wanted to be a wife, I
still wanted to be that, havethat family dynamic, but this
was always just there, you know.
So when the judge, when theattorney at the time, he told me
hey, do you want to take that?
Like, I want you to come withme to the courthouse and be my
court administrator, which islike my right hand.
I didn't immediately say yesbecause of that, because of my
(34:20):
marriage and because you know, Ididn't know I was kind of
conflicted.
And then this thing happenedwhere I like something happened,
and then I decided, okay, Ineed to get out of this.
So I did.
And then then I did, I movedout, I moved in with my mom and
my dad and and then, um, afterthat I talked to him, justin
Lowe, the, he was an attorneythen and he, um, he asked me
(34:44):
about it again, he brought it upin conversation and I took I, I
said yes, like I was gonna comeand I didn't know what I was
doing, but I was gonna do it andI was in like it was in the
legal field and that's all itwas, you know, and I didn't know
how it was going to turn out oranything, but it did and it it
ended up working out.
So then I came to the courthousewith him and, um, I was with
(35:07):
him as a, as an attorney.
I was with him 18, seven yearsand then I went to the
courthouse and then I became hiscourt administrator.
And it's funny because, like,after the whole cop, I wanted to
be a cop.
I ended up going, I went backto school and I pursued my
bachelor's degree and then I,and then I, oh, I always wanted
(35:28):
to be a probationer.
That's then like that was mynext thing.
I can kind of I can see it.
That was my next thing and itwas always like the mentality
can see it that was my nextthing, and it was always like
the mentality of like.
I always want to help the peoplein this, in this field, because
, like in the at the attorney'soffice, they're walking into the
attorney's office and thisshould be their safe place
Because the outside world seesthem as these ugly and dangerous
(35:50):
, horrible people.
So I always made that, thatlike.
I always made it an effort tomake them feel like hey, I'm not
judging you.
Like we're friends, you know.
And so, with probation, thatwas the same thing, like I
wanted to make a difference inthese people's lives so that
they never came back to thesystem and that there was hope,
there was somebody that wantedto push for them, for their
(36:11):
success, and all of that.
So, while I was at the court,um, a position opened up with
probation and like this was mydream job, like this is what I
wanted to do.
So I told him, I said hey, um,this came up and he was like
really sad about it.
But he's like you know, I knowthis is what you wanted, and
blah, blah and um, so I appliedfor it.
(36:31):
I had an interview, um, I endedup taking the taking down, like
um, saying no to the positionbecause I was a single mom.
That's really why, like, Icouldn't afford to be and I said
that in that moment I was likethis is just not a dream, this
is not something I can pursue.
If I was married I could have,you know, but I don't have that,
(36:52):
so I just can't.
The smart thing wouldn't be todo this, like in this, in at
this time and I was.
It was kind of sad, but I endedup staying with the court and
it's still.
You know, I loved, I love thesystem in Hoan.
Um, you know it has its, it hasits ugly parts, but I just
enjoyed the being in the in itand um, so I stayed with the
(37:15):
courts and then the districtclerk that is was in the
position, clarissa Webster,amazing person, um, we worked
together because you know Iworked with the courts, she
works for the district clerk andyou know they work together.
So me and Clarissa alwaysworked so well together.
She was so helpful to me and wejust always had a really good.
(37:36):
It was always a really goodrelationship like from day one,
and she always just she wasamazing.
And so then, you know, sheended up taking the, she went to
, so she works for the OCA.
Now she's a court, so shedidn't retire.
She just a better opportunitypresented itself and she took it
(37:59):
and she was an amazing, amazingdistrict clerk, very
knowledgeable in what she didand very proud of it.
So she it ended up.
You know they had because sheleft before her term was over.
The judges have to appointsomeone to that position and um,
long story short, um, I did notoriginally say this was
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something that I wanted to do,because I was also going to
court reporting school at thatpoint and um, do you know what
court reporting is like soeverybody like any hearings that
happen in the courtroom there'salways somebody typing
Speaker 2 (38:34):
everything.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
And that's what I was going to school for.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Girl, you have little fingers.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Every time you see them I'm like, yeah, so I was
doing that.
And then I'm kind of goingeverywhere because I'm thinking
about stuff.
I was also last year.
I remember I was doing that.
I was working a part time job.
I was, I was doing that.
I was working a part-time job,I was a server on the weekends
and then I would work for thecourts.
That was my full-time job.
(39:02):
So anyways, coming back to this, my boss came to me, Judge Lowe
, and he said I think you woulddo great.
I spoke to a few other peoplethat brought it to my attention
and I remember I was trying torecruit people to take this
position because in my head,like you know, I'm going to
court reporting school and Ilove judge low, Like I've worked
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with him forever.
There's no way I can workanywhere else Like I'm used to
working for him and, um, Iremember talking to one of the
girls that I that I uh, like Itold I thought I thought she
would be perfect for theposition and she told me why she
, she didn't want to take it.
And we were having thatconversation and she mentioned
something about her pastor theprevious Sunday.
(39:46):
The message was like put asomewhere along the lines of put
a goal for yourself and believein yourself that you can, you
can, that you can that, thatthat's going to happen, like you
know, pray about it andthroughout the year, something
along those lines.
And I told her.
I told her you know, well,maybe God is speaking to you
(40:08):
through me and I felt like I kidyou not, like I felt like God
in that moment told me and I'mspeaking to you through her, and
I like it was like a, like ablow.
Honestly, that's what it wasand I ignored it.
I was like, oh, but in my head,like I started thinking should
I take this?
Like should I say, okay, I wantto put, I want to be considered
(40:32):
for this or whatever?
But I ignored it and I rememberI would wake up thinking about
it.
It was just in my head for along, long time and then the
judge brought it up again and Ijust kept deflecting because I
kept saying, like there's no way, you know, like first I'm
Hispanic, my name's GuadalupeNavarrete, and all these things
(40:53):
came in my head.
I'm little, you know, I'mHispanic, my name is Guadalupe
Navarrete, like you know, andall these things came in my head
.
I'm a, I'm little, you know, II can't, like I'm not married,
I'm a single mom, like I was aserver last year.
Like there's no way that I cando this.
And I talked to my, my dearfriend, rudy Moisek.
He's an attorney and I was like, hey, you know, just to seek
his guidance with it, and he's areally close friend of mine and
(41:14):
I really respect his judgment.
And he told me the story of theman that was stranded in the
ocean.
And the man that was strandedin the ocean he prayed to God.
That God is going to God, Iknow you're going to get me out
of this, I have full faith thatyou're going to get me out of
this and he kind of really knewall the struggles that I kind of
(41:35):
went through last year, and soI think that's why he shared
this with me.
So he's stranded in the oceanand there's a boat that comes to
try to save him and he says no,god is going to save me.
And then a second boat comessame response.
Third boat comes same response.
And then he dies, he drowns,and then he tells God, like you
(41:58):
know, I prayed and I said youwere going to save me and you
didn't.
And he said I sent, I tried todo it three times and you
ignored me, like you didn't payattention.
So that really stuck with me,you know, because people kept
coming to me and telling me Ithink you'd be great for this
position and people that Irespect, like honorable people
(42:19):
that I really respect within thecourt system, and so that was
kind of that moment where I saidlike I needed I think this is
this is it, you know, and itkind of just really it just fell
on my lap and there was a lotof like disappointment and hard
work behind that.
(42:40):
That just to me, it always justwent so unnoticed but I never
wanted to take away, like Ialways wanted to be proud of
everything that I did and and Ididn't understand like why
things were not really comingtogether for me, but I trusted
that.
You know, I know God, but I Ialso in the back of my head.
I feel like we all, or at leastI always had it in the back of
(43:00):
my head, like when, yeah, but itwill get better but when you
know, then I was constantlytrying to find ways to make it
better, like you know, getting asecond job and, um, just doing
all kinds of things to just tryto fix my life, you know, under
my own term.
And then, um, yeah, so I endedup putting my hat in I mean, my
(43:21):
name in the hat and the, thejudges appointed me and I was
appointed on the 3rd of marchand here I am and it's been a
really, it's been a really coolblessing because god has just
revealed, like you know, when wetalked about you don't know, he
knows, and it was there's justso much blessings that have came
(43:44):
out of this and, um, he put mein a position where, you know, I
love to help people and I loveto serve and be there for other
people and and I love the legalfield and to be able to do that
together.
Um, such a blessing to me.
You know, I get to be thecenter of that and and do it to
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the best of my ability and, yeah, so I just thought it was just
like when it happened, I wasjust like god there's like I
told you, you, I wanted it toget better, but this is too much
.
Like I can't, I'm overwhelmed byit, like I was very overwhelmed
by just the blessing that, um,all the blessings that this came
(44:25):
with, you know, and um, so yeah, I, I love, I love the position
because I get to do that, I getto be in the middle of that
field.
That I absolutely love, youknow, and it's hard to
understand and it's not perfect,but I love it, I love to learn
about it, I love to to justlearn about it.
(44:46):
And then I get to help peopleand, you know, to a certain
degree, you know the districtclerk is always a neutral party
to everything, but I still getto serve the public and and yeah
, so, yeah, that's it.
I kind of went everywhere withthat.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I'm sorry, but yeah wow, I mean it's crazy just to
see.
Um look, I mean to hear yourstory.
You can just see how, like thewhole time you were just taking
step by step, step by step, yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
So yeah, it's been a really big blessing.
Very, I don't take it forgranted at all.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
What did your son say when you got appointed?
Speaker 3 (45:24):
He kind of didn't know, like you know, when we,
because it was in the courtroom.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Because he held the Bible.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Yeah, but he was scared because there was a lot
of people in there and he wastelling my mom, like why is
there so many people in here?
Speaker 1 (45:40):
for my mom Like what's going on.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
So he doesn't quite understand it, which I think is
awesome, because I always sayyou know, it doesn't matter what
I do with my life ever, itdoesn't matter who I am, my
world stops for that kid.
Like if that kid is hungry and Ihave to like everything stops
for him, and you know, I mean,yeah, he doesn't know that and
(46:08):
he doesn't have to Like I thinkthat's the job of a mom to the
world stops for your kids.
I think that's the job of a momto the world stops for your
kids, and I think that's and Godhas put me in a position where
I'm able to to do that.
So, yeah, he, he doesn't quiteknow, but he sees people, like
if he goes to the office everynow and then and I'm in my
office and he'll be like what islike who?
(46:29):
What do you do?
Like what do you?
What is your dog Like?
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (46:32):
You know he doesn't really understand it, but but
when he does, he'll know hismom's name will be in Edgar
County history books History.
Yes, because you are the first.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
First Hispanic and I think I, if I'm not mistaken,
I'm also.
I'm the first to hold abachelor's degree and, um, I
don't know if I'm the youngest,I'm not sure, but first hispanic
.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
How did that told you that?
Uh it feels good, but it's verylike overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
You know, like me and like who am?
I you know and and exactly whogod sent yes, yeah, the job yeah
, and I realized that now, butat the time it was just like who
am I?
You know, I don't come frombackground.
My parents and my family itdoes not.
They do not come from apolitical background.
And you know, this is on no,like what.
You know, it was just one ofthose things, like God, I asked
(47:26):
you to to make a way, but Ididn't expect the way to look
like this.
You know what I mean.
So it was.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
It was just very overwhelming what did they say
um what does this tell god?
You're playing and he laughs,or something he sure does, he
sure does he laughs.
He probably got a real goodchuckle girl, I mean I'm not
pointing at you because I'm surehe looked at me and be like
girl, girl, okay, yeah, for sure, oh my, okay you look back and
you're like you know god, you'refunny, literally here recently,
(47:57):
like I just sit back and Ithink, especially when you get
to that moment, first of all, doyou want it?
yes, I do okay, so when you getto that moment, when you're in a
healthy marriage, coming out ofone that is not, you have
moments.
I promise you the first time Imet aaron.
I had to pinch myself because itwas like simple things like I'm
where, I don't think we weregay, we were just friends and I
(48:19):
was sick but he was leaving outof town to go probably to
crossfit something um, and camein my house and bought me like
pho and medicine and flowers andice cream and all kinds of
stuff and I was like Like what,what up?
Oh.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
I love that.
I was like like what, yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:36):
So I think that's where, for me, therapy came in
handy.
Okay, because.
I say it all the time If Ididn't go through therapy, I
wouldn't know how to handleAaron Really, because he just
was complete opposite of what Iwas choosing.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Yeah, and that was going to be my question.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Like how did you, how were you able?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
to accept that when you never had it before therapy.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah, because I would have been like what?
Because I definitely, even then, when he I was like, and
sometimes he does- stuff and I'mlike and for him that gesture
was.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
He was like what do you mean?
It's normal, and for you it waseverything.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
I was like yeah, there is no way, what's going on
?
Speaker 2 (49:09):
and even randomly.
I mean there's technicallythere's dead flowers in there
now because they died, but everyso often it just brings back,
let's see, yeah, therapy forsure, because if not, I've been
like noted, noted, yeah, ifthere's a number of you to go,
go, girl, see me ready for yournext.
Yes, man, that baggage will beunpacked, okay.
So my last question for you iswhat do you stand for?
Speaker 3 (49:34):
what do I stand?
Speaker 2 (49:35):
yeah, I'm gonna jump you.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
I'm going to re-answer that Because I feel
like this episode, I have adifferent answer, okay, than
previous episodes.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
So currently I, yanni Thomas, say I stand for
remembering that, or treatingpeople like they're human.
Treating people like they'rehuman yeah, that's what I would
say.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Before I think I said like spreading kind of, which
is not a bad thing, yeah, butthis current stage of my life?
Speaker 2 (50:04):
I just believe yeah, and I can agree with that.
I can agree with that, I think,especially if your job is
making it to where you have tobe a new party.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
You probably see yeah , I would agree with that.
Nothing like comes up to.
Honestly, nothing crazy comesup.
Yeah, I hate that, but nothingcomes to my head, um, besides
just treating people with.
Be that, be that good comment.
Yeah, make somebody's day, Iguess.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yeah oh, I have a a little.
It's a saying or block orwhatever it is on my desk that a
co-worker gave me to be thereason why someone smiles today.
Yeah, there you go.
I often have to ring out thedoor because the flesh be trying
to kill me.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yes, girl, and I be like squid mind what is actually
happening.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
But yeah, no, well, is there anything else?
You would like to add that Iforgot that you're like hey.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
I guess I could just say just it gets better.
You know, sometimes everybody'ssituation is different, but it
really does get if you, if youput in the work and um and not.
I'm not just saying that likework-wise, I'm just I'm saying
that in like you you as a personit gets better, and that better
(51:13):
is more than you can handle.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
You know um, so yeah well, with that note, I would
say thank you, yes, for comingto have a conversation with us.
I say us meeting all of mylisteners yeah, this was so fun
anyway, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
I had this is awesome .
I was like nervous.
I was so nervous.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah says I don't like talking like when I come to
the door, I was like I'm sonervous.
And I was like nervous, I wasso nervous yeah, says everyone
like talking.
Like when I come to the door, Iwas like I'm so nervous and I'm
like girl chill yeah, this iscool, I forgot that was even
playing over there.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Yeah, because it's the only way.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
It's just a conversation, yeah, yeah, and
you're allowing people torealize you know they have
common, something in common withyou.
Come with us, hey, we can havea whole discussion just about
divorce yeah, yeah, and it's agood.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
It was like a good reminder for me.
Like you know, girl, this isyou went through stuff and you
acknowledge, don't disregard it,but look, you're in a good
place and be thankful for that.
You know, because we forget, weforget to, we look at the what
we're, the current, whateverthat looks like, and we forget
all that has just changed.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah, no, for sure, I think also it's a reminder of
life comes the seasons.
For one, they're not your wholebook, just a chapter.
Yes.
And then for two, it's not yourcharacter or it's not your
identity.
Yes, it may be you knowsomething that happened or
something you did, but yes, likesomeone's you're not and I'm
not walking around saying I'm adivorcee, mm-hmm.
(52:37):
Yeah, yeah, but I mean, if itcomes up, it comes up.
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
And I just think it's important to know that there is
a lesson behind.
Like, even if for us theoutcome sucks, there is a lesson
behind it.
And what can you do better?
How can you improve?
Speaker 2 (53:03):
You know what, can you work on because of that
situation.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah, look in the mirror well, um for those that
are listening.
I will tell you that you areloved.
You are needed, needed.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
You are emphasized on the needed right.
You are needed um.
What did I say?
Speaker 3 (53:10):
I forgot now and forgetful and it's all right
yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
And you are seen.
We are all human, we are allgoing through things, so don't
think you're the only one.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
Yeah, and remember that Jesus loves you.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yeah, and he sees you .
He does, and I think for me,recently, I had to remember that
he sees you when your times aregood, and he sees you when
times are bad, when your timesare good, and he sees you in
times are bad, um, he countsyour tears, um, and he's always
there, even when you it seemslike you know how or why.
I don't know how or why, butGod does.
So I would just tell you topray and talk to him, um, and
(53:49):
start that relationship.
Yes, and if you're looking fora church in Odessa Midland area,
come see us.
At Hope Alive, I said come seeus.
I'm going to be honest, I needto get better with going to
church, but anyway, that is mychurch.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
So come see us at Hope Alive.
But all right, bye, bye.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Thank you for listening to another episode of
Standing in your Truth withYanni.
And if no one told you today,you are loved, you are beautiful
, you are needed and you matter.
Be sure to follow on Facebookat Standing In your Truth
Podcast with Yanni.
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